Re: USS and C
C (the programming language) and z/OS UNIX System Services are two separate subjects. I wouldn't conflate the two. I agree with the comment that basically everything uses z/OS UNIX System Services to one degree or another -- and an increasing degree over time. It's an integral part of the operating system, it has been for an awfully long time, it continues to evolve and advance, and there are lots of middleware products that flat out wouldn't run without it. At this point in history I really wouldn't view z/OS UNIX System Services as anything particularly separate, except to the extent you'd view other subsystems as separate like the Communications Server for z/OS, SMF, etc. Why do you ask? If you're asking, Should I learn more about z/OS UNIX System Services? I'd probably answer with a question: Do you want to maintain reasonablly current z/OS skills? For example, if I were hiring a z/OS system programmer, and during the interview that person said, I'm an excellent z/OS system programmer, but I refuse to have anything to do with z/OS UNIX System Services, I'd send that person back out the door very quickly. It's a nonsensical statement. My personal opinions. - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan / Asia-Pacific E-Mail: timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: USS and C
And the converged question is: Do the two sets overlap? That is, do most/all of the folks who DO use C on z/OS do so under USS? I don't have much knowledgea bout all this stuff (still learning), but if I got things right you can decide if your application runs in the POSIX-Environment or in the MVS-Environment not... So, if your C-programmer someday will encounter a function that can only be used with POSIX(ON), like the threading stuff for example, then he/she will switch it on and he/she will be happy that function fooba() now will work... Now - when this application runs it runs under USS (if I got all this stuff right), so. yes, UCC and C will/can overlap. bye, Michael -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: USS and C
Timothy Sipples wrote: [...] For example, if I were hiring a z/OS system programmer, and during the interview that person said, I'm an excellent z/OS system programmer, but I refuse to have anything to do with z/OS UNIX System Services, I'd send that person back out the door very quickly. It's a nonsensical statement. If I were hiring I would ask about other skills. Nobody knows everything. Specialization is a good thing. Last but not least I would ask myself: Do I really need skills in this area? The answer could be NO, Almost no, Yes, *but other person* does it. BTW: I observe that average or poor system programmers are usually extremely poor in USS area. To new feature vbg My €0.02 -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2008 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA wynosi 118.642.672 zote i zosta w caoci wpacony. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
ACF2 ENQ problem after Upgrade
Hello everybody, There is ACF2 ENQ problem in our system and we have a system outage. The ACF2 ENQ has been occurring intermittently since the z/OS 1.7 upgrade; the first occurring approx 2 weeks after the upgrade, the next about 6 weeks later, and a third occurrence after a further few weeks. This latest flurry of problems commenced on Monday morning, with the most recent occurring after the application of the recommended maintenance from CA. The environment is a Z/OS 1.7 system. Running ACF2 in a shared Lpar setup, is a JES3 system and configured for Global Local. We also experienced an SMF termination from an enq problem on Sunday just prior to the recent ACF2 issue I would be of great help if someone could offer me suggestions / comments if you have faced this problem previously. THanks Yogeetha -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Problem with RACF dataset profiles
Thanks, Rick and Walt. That makes sense now. Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
ACF2 ENQ issue after upgrade
Hello everybody, There is ACF2 ENQ problem in our system and we have a system outage. The ACF2 ENQ has been occurring intermittently since the z/OS 1.7 upgrade; the first occurring approx 2 weeks after the upgrade, the next about 6 weeks later, and a third occurrence after a further few weeks. This latest flurry of problems commenced on Monday morning, with the most recent occurring after the application of the recommended maintenance from CA. The environment is a Z/OS 1.7 system. Running ACF2 in a shared Lpar setup, is a JES3 system and configured for Global Local. We also experienced an SMF termination from an enq problem on Sunday just prior to the recent ACF2 issue I would be of great help if someone could offer me suggestions / comments if you have faced this problem previously. Thanks Yogeetha -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: USS and C
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 10:10:02 -0600, P S zosw...@gmail.com wrote: Do folks care about USS? We all do. Definitely. Without it, no zOS would run... That is, do most z/OS shops actually use USS for anything beyond the things they're forced to (TCP/IP stuff, for example)? Yes, for building and testing shell scripts to run Java application. And for the production run of these applications. My experience suggests that the general answer is No (with exceptions, of course). YMMV... The related question is: Do folks use C on z/OS much? Yes, we do. Around 60% of our production is C, be it that those are CICS and batch programs and run in the non-Unix environment. And the converged question is: Do the two sets overlap? That is, do most/all of the folks who DO use C on z/OS do so under USS? I'd say Unix System Services and C are two separate things. In some shops, I would imagine there would be overlap between the two, in others not at all. One does not need one to do the other and vice/versa. Cheers, Jantje. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ACF2 ENQ problem after Upgrade
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:24:09 +0530, Yogeetha balasubramanian wrote: There is ACF2 ENQ problem in our system and we have a system outage. Perhaps it would help if you could describe the nature of the problem. Presumably you are describing ENQ contention. What is the ENQ resource? Who holds the ENQ? Who is waiting for the resource? How long was it held? -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Deleting UnExpired dataset using JCL
Hi, How do I delete a non sms dataset with an expiration date using JCL. If the dataset does not have an expiration date, I can use DISP=(SHR,DELETE). If the dataset is sms managed, the OVRD_EXPDT allows the override of the expiration date. Is there a way to accomplish this for non sms datasets? IF I run this job: //STEP1 EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 //DD1 DD DSN=V110.TGBA.TESTDEL,DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),UNIT=3390, // SPACE=(TRK,1),LRECL=80,RETPD=2,VOL=SER=PRJ002 //DEL EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 //DD1 DD DSN=V110.TGBA.TESTDEL,DISP=(SHR,DELETE),RETPD=0 The first step works, and the second step iisues: IEC614I SCRATCH FAILED - RC 008, DIAGNOSTIC INFORMATION IS (040B004B), ,PRJ002,V110.TGBA.TESTDEL The 040B004B reason code means that the dataset is not expired. Can anyone help? Gadi -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Deleting UnExpired dataset using JCL
Gadi Try using IDCAMS DELETE with the PURGE option e.g. // EXEC PGM=IDCAMS //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSIN DD * DEL V110.TGBA.TESTDEL PURGE Mike On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 1:59 PM, גדי בן אבי gad...@malam.com wrote: Hi, How do I delete a non sms dataset with an expiration date using JCL. If the dataset does not have an expiration date, I can use DISP=(SHR,DELETE). If the dataset is sms managed, the OVRD_EXPDT allows the override of the expiration date. Is there a way to accomplish this for non sms datasets? IF I run this job: //STEP1 EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 //DD1 DD DSN=V110.TGBA.TESTDEL,DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),UNIT=3390, // SPACE=(TRK,1),LRECL=80,RETPD=2,VOL=SER=PRJ002 //DEL EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 //DD1 DD DSN=V110.TGBA.TESTDEL,DISP=(SHR,DELETE),RETPD=0 The first step works, and the second step iisues: IEC614I SCRATCH FAILED - RC 008, DIAGNOSTIC INFORMATION IS (040B004B), ,PRJ002,V110.TGBA.TESTDEL The 040B004B reason code means that the dataset is not expired. Can anyone help? Gadi -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Mike Shorkend m...@shorkend.com www.shorkend.com Tel: +972524208743 Fax: +97239772196 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ACF2 ENQ problem after Upgrade
Hi, here's the screen print of the D GRS,C info S=SYSTEM ACFVSAM LOGONIDS SYSNAME JOBNAME ASID TCBADDR EXC/SHR STATUS SY5 DPB1DIST 0051 008DFE00 EXCLUSIVE OWN SY5 SYSMSTR 0020 008A81C8 SHARE WAIT SY5 DPB1DIST 0051 008DFBE0 EXCLUSIVE WAIT SY5 DPB1DIST 0051 008DF9C0 EXCLUSIVE WAIT SY5 JES3 0018 0087D988 SHARE WAIT SY5 SYSMSTR 0020 008CA3D0 SHARE WAIT SY5 DFHSM 0049 008FF510 SHARE WAIT SY5 PKNHXDGB 006D 008EE5C0 SHARE WAIT S=SYSTEM ACF2ACB LOGONIDS SYSNAME JOBNAME ASID TCBADDR EXC/SHR STATUS SY5 DPB1DIST 0051 008DFE00 EXCLUSIVE OWN SY5 SYSMSTR 0020 008A81C8 EXCLUSIVE WAIT SY5 DPB1DIST 0051 008DFBE0 EXCLUSIVE WAIT SY5 DPB1DIST 0051 008DF9C0 EXCLUSIVE WAIT SY5 JES3 0018 0087D988 EXCLUSIVE WAIT SY5 SYSMSTR 0020 008CA3D0 EXCLUSIVE WAIT SY5 DFHSM 0049 008FF510 EXCLUSIVE WAIT SY5 PKNHXDGB 006D 008EE5C0 EXCLUSIVE WAIT SY5 JES3 0018 008A5638 EXCLUSIVE WAIT SY5 DPB1DIST 0051 008DF7A0 EXCLUSIVE WAIT On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Tom Marchant m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.comwrote: On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:24:09 +0530, Yogeetha balasubramanian wrote: There is ACF2 ENQ problem in our system and we have a system outage. Perhaps it would help if you could describe the nature of the problem. Presumably you are describing ENQ contention. What is the ENQ resource? Who holds the ENQ? Who is waiting for the resource? How long was it held? -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Deleting UnExpired dataset using JCL
I know about IDCAMS, but the user wants a pure JCL solution. Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Shorkend Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 2:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Deleting UnExpired dataset using JCL Gadi Try using IDCAMS DELETE with the PURGE option e.g. // EXEC PGM=IDCAMS //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSIN DD * DEL V110.TGBA.TESTDEL PURGE Mike On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 1:59 PM, גדי בן אבי gad...@malam.com wrote: Hi, How do I delete a non sms dataset with an expiration date using JCL. If the dataset does not have an expiration date, I can use DISP=(SHR,DELETE). If the dataset is sms managed, the OVRD_EXPDT allows the override of the expiration date. Is there a way to accomplish this for non sms datasets? IF I run this job: //STEP1 EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 //DD1 DD DSN=V110.TGBA.TESTDEL,DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),UNIT=3390, // SPACE=(TRK,1),LRECL=80,RETPD=2,VOL=SER=PRJ002 //DEL EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 //DD1 DD DSN=V110.TGBA.TESTDEL,DISP=(SHR,DELETE),RETPD=0 The first step works, and the second step iisues: IEC614I SCRATCH FAILED - RC 008, DIAGNOSTIC INFORMATION IS (040B004B), ,PRJ002,V110.TGBA.TESTDEL The 040B004B reason code means that the dataset is not expired. Can anyone help? Gadi -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Mike Shorkend m...@shorkend.com www.shorkend.com Tel: +972524208743 Fax: +97239772196 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Deleting UnExpired dataset using JCL
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 14:23:16 +0200, ××× ×× ××× gad...@malam.com wrote: I know about IDCAMS, but the user wants a pure JCL solution. In that case I think you will have to use one of the many PARM to control card programs to parameterise the dataset name (optionally volume) and pass it to a deleting program such as IDCAMS. Check the CBT Tape. Maybe some of the data management programs on CBT will delete a dataset specified in the parm. http://www.cbttape.org/ Cheers Dave -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Deleting UnExpired dataset using JCL
Dave, Are you saying that there is no way to do this using pure JCL? Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Cartwright Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 2:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Deleting UnExpired dataset using JCL On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 14:23:16 +0200, גדי בן ×בי gad...@malam.com wrote: I know about IDCAMS, but the user wants a pure JCL solution. In that case I think you will have to use one of the many PARM to control card programs to parameterise the dataset name (optionally volume) and pass it to a deleting program such as IDCAMS. Check the CBT Tape. Maybe some of the data management programs on CBT will delete a dataset specified in the parm. http://www.cbttape.org/ Cheers Dave -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
z/OS 1.11 and CICS TS 4.1 preview announcements
FYI - these preview announcements are available at: http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?infotype=ANsubtype=CA htmlfid=897/ENUSC09-008appname=USN There is even a new GDPS version (3.6) Bob -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ACF2 ENQ problem after Upgrade
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:52:11 +0530, Yogeetha balasubramanian wrote: Hi, here's the screen print of the D GRS,C info S=SYSTEM ACFVSAM LOGONIDS SYSNAME JOBNAME ASID TCBADDR EXC/SHR STATUS SY5 DPB1DIST 0051 008DFE00 EXCLUSIVE OWN SY5 SYSMSTR 0020 008A81C8 SHARE WAIT SY5 DPB1DIST 0051 008DFBE0 EXCLUSIVE WAIT SY5 DPB1DIST 0051 008DF9C0 EXCLUSIVE WAIT SY5 JES3 0018 0087D988 SHARE WAIT SY5 SYSMSTR 0020 008CA3D0 SHARE WAIT SY5 DFHSM 0049 008FF510 SHARE WAIT SY5 PKNHXDGB 006D 008EE5C0 SHARE WAIT S=SYSTEM ACF2ACB LOGONIDS SYSNAME JOBNAME ASID TCBADDR EXC/SHR STATUS SY5 DPB1DIST 0051 008DFE00 EXCLUSIVE OWN SY5 SYSMSTR 0020 008A81C8 EXCLUSIVE WAIT SY5 DPB1DIST 0051 008DFBE0 EXCLUSIVE WAIT SY5 DPB1DIST 0051 008DF9C0 EXCLUSIVE WAIT SY5 JES3 0018 0087D988 EXCLUSIVE WAIT SY5 SYSMSTR 0020 008CA3D0 EXCLUSIVE WAIT SY5 DFHSM 0049 008FF510 EXCLUSIVE WAIT SY5 PKNHXDGB 006D 008EE5C0 EXCLUSIVE WAIT SY5 JES3 0018 008A5638 EXCLUSIVE WAIT SY5 DPB1DIST 0051 008DF7A0 EXCLUSIVE WAIT What is DPB1DIST doing? Is it waiting for something? -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Bursts of high paging
Hi, We have a z/os 1.8 system experiencing bursts of high paging. This is most noteably seen by using SDSF Display Active and using sort paging d (escending). It is only swappable adresspaces that pages. Does SRM still do working set trimming before doing a logical swap? This last only a few seconds, and then there is a new burst with some other adrspaces. Is there a way to avoid this without making everything Nonswappable? The adrspaces that is paging is typically MQCFG and USS ardspaces. In general, the paging rate overall is close to zero. Appreciate any feedback. Rgds Peter -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ACF2 ENQ problem after Upgrade
Tom Marchant of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 02/24/2009 07:14:22 AM: On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:52:11 +0530, Yogeetha balasubramanian wrote: Hi, here's the screen print of the D GRS,C info S=SYSTEM ACFVSAM LOGONIDS SYSNAME JOBNAME ASID TCBADDR EXC/SHR STATUS SY5 DPB1DIST 0051 008DFE00 EXCLUSIVE OWN SY5 SYSMSTR 0020 008A81C8 SHARE WAIT SY5 DPB1DIST 0051 008DFBE0 EXCLUSIVE WAIT SY5 DPB1DIST 0051 008DF9C0 EXCLUSIVE WAIT SY5 JES3 0018 0087D988 SHARE WAIT SY5 SYSMSTR 0020 008CA3D0 SHARE WAIT SY5 DFHSM 0049 008FF510 SHARE WAIT SY5 PKNHXDGB 006D 008EE5C0 SHARE WAIT S=SYSTEM ACF2ACB LOGONIDS SYSNAME JOBNAME ASID TCBADDR EXC/SHR STATUS SY5 DPB1DIST 0051 008DFE00 EXCLUSIVE OWN SY5 SYSMSTR 0020 008A81C8 EXCLUSIVE WAIT SY5 DPB1DIST 0051 008DFBE0 EXCLUSIVE WAIT SY5 DPB1DIST 0051 008DF9C0 EXCLUSIVE WAIT SY5 JES3 0018 0087D988 EXCLUSIVE WAIT SY5 SYSMSTR 0020 008CA3D0 EXCLUSIVE WAIT SY5 DFHSM 0049 008FF510 EXCLUSIVE WAIT SY5 PKNHXDGB 006D 008EE5C0 EXCLUSIVE WAIT SY5 JES3 0018 008A5638 EXCLUSIVE WAIT SY5 DPB1DIST 0051 008DF7A0 EXCLUSIVE WAIT What is DPB1DIST doing? Is it waiting for something? Did you do this step in the CA-ACF2 installation? Sites using Unicenter CA-MIM and any other enqueue-controlling product should specify the following ENQ resources in their exclude list: O Exclude the eTrust CA-ACF2 data set names from the SYSDSN ENQUEUE so that eTrust CA-ACF2 can have the databases as DISP=OLD on more than one CPU. O Exclude eTrust CA-ACF2's major name, ACFVSAM, to let eTrust CA-ACF2 serialize its function in the system, not the entire ring. Regards, John K -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SMF log stream dump utility enhancements in z/OS 1.11
Buried on page 23 of the announcement PDF: In z/OS V1.11, the SMF log stream dump utility, IFASMFDL, is planned to allow you to specify a range of dates relative to the date on which the program is started. For example, you will be able to specify that the SMF records created yesterday, or those created for six days starting nine days ago, be processed. This design will allow date ranges to be specified by days, weeks, or months. Also, IFASMFDL is planned to support new options to manage the retention of the data in the SMF log stream and allow you to specify that data by archived (dumped and deleted) or deleted from the log stream. These new IFASMFDL functions are intended to make it easier to exploit log stream-based SMF data management. That second to last sentence that says data by archived I hope means data BE archived. For those going to SHARE in Austin, can someone ask for clarification about this part of the announcement and report back to the rest of us that cannot make it there? Pretty please? :-) Bob - Robert B. Richards(Bob) US Office of Personnel Management 1900 E Street NW Room: BH04L Washington, D.C. 20415 Phone: (202) 606-1195 Email: robert.richa...@opm.gov mailto:robert.richa...@opm.gov - -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMPE/HFS issue:
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:53:35 -0600, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: if you do the receive with DELETEPKG, it gets deleted anyway after the process is complete. Here, I've set up a 4 3990-9 volume SMPNTS zFS that everyone shares. I have a cron script that deletes everything older than 90 days, so I don't care if anyone uses DELETEPKG or not. Actually, this might result in a considerable optimization because the conditions in: #14.4.3 SMP/E V3R5.0 for z/OS V1R10.0 Commands ___ 14.4.3 Restarting RECEIVE FROMNETWORK ... You can simply rerun the RECEIVE FROMNETWORK command, and SMP/E will determine which files have already been transferred successfully, and which files need to be transferred again or have not yet been transferred. Before transferring a file, RECEIVE processing checks to see if the file already exists in the package directory of the SMPNTS. If it does, the hash value for the existing file is calculated and compared to the hash value supplied in the package attribute file. If they match, the file is used as it exists in the package directory and is not transferred again. ... I'm not sure I follow... Optimization of what? If the RECEIVE SYSMODS part of RECEIVE NETWORK or RECEIVE FROMNTS completed successfully why would it matter since you don't need the package after that. If there was a problem with RECEIVE, DELETEPKG isn't going to delete it anyway. The only reason I keep stuff out there for 90 days are for CBPDO orders of ServerPacs in case someone lets it sit for a while or wants to start over. Otherwise, the SMPNTS usage is for maintenance where people receive it now and it never gets touched again. So some files might not need to be re-transferred. I don't know whether the hash value is reproducible if the same SYSMOD appears in different ORDERs sharing the SMPNTS. KurtQ might enlighten us. If you order the same PTF in 2 different shopz orders, it will transfer twice as part of each package. In the case of RECEIVE ORDER, I don't think you can do a transfer only and it wouldn't be selected the second time anyway since SMP/E would know it is already received. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMF log stream dump utility enhancements in z/OS 1.11
Richards, Robert B. robert.richa...@opm.gov wrote in message news:538523e4ec70a1409a113c09a9179a970b80c...@wdcvexvs2.opm.gov... Buried on page 23 of the announcement PDF: In z/OS V1.11, the SMF log stream dump utility, IFASMFDL, is planned to allow you to specify a range of dates relative to the date on which the program is started. For example, you will be able to specify that the SMF records created yesterday, or those created for six days starting nine days ago, be processed. This design will allow date ranges to be specified by days, weeks, or months. Also, IFASMFDL is planned to support new options to manage the retention of the data in the SMF log stream and allow you to specify that data by archived (dumped and deleted) or deleted from the log stream. These new IFASMFDL functions are intended to make it easier to exploit log stream-based SMF data management. If this is all, it is really poor. After so many years and releases of waiting and complaining, they can only come up with n days? Who says our day cut-off is at midnight (in the middle of our batch window)? Why not also the fromtime-totime of IFASMFDP or a complete from-date-time and to-date-time? Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Pedantic Tape Analyzer?
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:04:42 -0600, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: Lately, examining a dump of a tape output from SAS TAPECOPY, I noticed that the volser in the HDR1 records did not match the volser in the VOL1 record. OK. IBM doc says this field is defined but not verified by OPEN/CLOSE processing, etc. But I'm working on a utility of my own, for complex reasons. I'd like to do better than SAS. How can I verify the result? Is there a utility to which I could pass a (putatively) standard labeled tape, such as that output from SAS TAPECOPY which would report loud and clear on irregularities such as the volser mismatch, possible block count errors in trailer labels, all such? It's been a long time since I had to use it, but doesn't Sun/STK already have a utility called OSTAPE or OSUTIL that can do at least some of this? Or is that what you are trying to enhance? Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Deleting UnExpired dataset using JCL
Yes snip Subject: Re: Deleting UnExpired dataset using JCL Dave, Are you saying that there is no way to do this using pure JCL? I know about IDCAMS, but the user wants a pure JCL solution. In that case I think you will have to use one of the many PARM to control card programs to parameterise the dataset name (optionally volume) and pass it to a deleting program such as IDCAMS. Check the CBT Tape. Maybe some of the data management programs on CBT will delete a dataset specified in the parm. /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMPE/HFS issue:
#14.4.3 SMP/E V3R5.0 for z/OS V1R10.0 Commands ___ 14.4.3 Restarting RECEIVE FROMNETWORK ... You can simply rerun the RECEIVE FROMNETWORK command, and SMP/E will determine which files have already been transferred successfully, and which files need to be transferred again or have not yet been transferred... snip The discussion you quote above refers to files within a single order. For example, if the download operation stops after only N-1 of the N total files have been downloaded, when you rerun that RECEIVE FROMNET operation, SMP/E will detect that N-1 files have already been downloaded successfully and will not download them again. No optimization is gained by keeping the downloaded files for an order in the SMPNTS after the RECEIVE for that order is complete (unless of course you want to RECEIVE that content into another global zone or some such). Generally speaking I recommend use of DELETEPKG on the RECEIVE to delete the downloaded files immediately after RECEIVE is complete. No sharing or reuse of files occurs between orders, as I think Gil is pondering. Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E Development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ACF2 ENQ problem after Upgrade
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:24:09 +0530, Yogeetha balasubramanian sairamyog...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everybody, There is ACF2 ENQ problem in our system and we have a system outage. The ACF2 ENQ has been occurring intermittently since the z/OS 1.7 upgrade; the first occurring approx 2 weeks after the upgrade, the next about 6 weeks later, and a third occurrence after a further few weeks. This latest flurry of problems commenced on Monday morning, with the most recent occurring after the application of the recommended maintenance from CA. The environment is a Z/OS 1.7 system. Running ACF2 in a shared Lpar setup, is a JES3 system and configured for Global Local. We also experienced an SMF termination from an enq problem on Sunday just prior to the recent ACF2 issue I would be of great help if someone could offer me suggestions / comments if you have faced this problem previously. ENQ problem with what? Was it with the ACF2 VSAM files? ISTR a HIPER coming across my email very recently that talked about that. Did you open issues with ACF2 support for those outages and provide them documentation, dumps etc.? Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: USS and C
We do no C development. We are beginning to use the CICS Web Services Assistant, which interacts with the HFS, so we must become functionally literate with the Unix command line. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu]on Behalf Of P S Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: USS and C Do folks care about USS? That is, do most z/OS shops actually use USS for anything beyond the things they're forced to (TCP/IP stuff, for example)? My experience suggests that the general answer is No (with exceptions, of course). The related question is: Do folks use C on z/OS much? And the converged question is: Do the two sets overlap? That is, do most/all of the folks who DO use C on z/OS do so under USS? It's interesting trying to figure this out, and this is the best sample set I can easily get at...! Thanks. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMF log stream dump utility enhancements in z/OS 1.11
Kees, I could not agree with you more, hence my request for additional information. For a change, I didn't want to blast IBM until all the facts were known. :-) Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 8:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SMF log stream dump utility enhancements in z/OS 1.11 If this is all, it is really poor. After so many years and releases of waiting and complaining, they can only come up with n days? Who says our day cut-off is at midnight (in the middle of our batch window)? Why not also the fromtime-totime of IFASMFDP or a complete from-date-time and to-date-time? Kees. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ACF2 ENQ problem after Upgrade
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 08:03:16 -0600, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com wrote: ENQ problem with what? Was it with the ACF2 VSAM files? ISTR a HIPER coming across my email very recently that talked about that. Did you open issues with ACF2 support for those outages and provide them documentation, dumps etc.? I just checked my email... it wasn't and ENQ, it was a wait / hang. The problem affects 9.0 and 12.0: PRODUCT: CA-ACF2 MVS RELEASE: 12.0 APAR #: RO05222 DATE:23 JAN 2009 PROBLEM DESCRIPTION: TA8580B: VSAM WAIT AFTER FORCE/CANCEL DURING I/O --- STARTRAK PROBLEM: 8580 ABSTRACT: VSAM WAIT AFTER FORCE/CANCEL DURING I/O DESCRIPTION: IF AN ADDRESS SPACE TERMINATES DURING ACF2 VSAM PROCESSING AND THE ESTAE DOES NOT GET CONTROL THE RPL WILL NOT GET CLEANED UP. THE NEXT REQUEST WILL GRAB A 2ND RPL AND COULD END UP IN A WAIT IN IBM VSAM MODULE IDA019SE ON RESOURCES HELD BY THE 1ST RPL. CODE WILL BE ADDED TO REMOVE THE USE OF THE 2ND RPL. THIS WILL FORCE ONLY A SINGLE RPL TO BE USED. THE ACF2 CODE WILL DETECT THAT THE RPL WAS STILL IN USE AND INITIATE ACF2 VSAM ERROR RECOVERY WHICH WILL ALLOW VSAM TO CLEAN UP ANY HELD RESOURCES. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OSA's Error codes
Hi All Sorry for the delay in getting back but I'm now back on the task of setting up my sysplex. I seem to have opened a can of worms here! I'm a one man band as it were and do all the sysproging here, VM Z/OS VTAM TCPIP etc so I get it to work and leave it as not having the time to full understand the internals of how it work and what's happening under the covers. This is what I did In my original TCPIP PROFILE I had the Link and device statements for the OSA, Enterprise Extender, and IUSAMEH use by E/E and the 2 home addresses. DEVICE OSA400 MPCIPA NONROUTER = the OSA I was having the problem with LINK LNKOSA40 IPAQGNET OSA400 DEVICE EEVIPAD VIRTUAL 0= Enterprise Extender LINK EEVIPAL VIRTUAL 0 EEVIPAD DEVICE IUTSAMEH MPCPTP AUTORESTART = required for E/E LINK IUTSAMEH MPCPTP IUTSAMEH HOME 10.5.1.110 LNKOSA40 = Home address for OSA 10.5.1.151 EEVIPAL = Home address for E/E I then did a V,TCPIP,,START,OSA400 which for some reason issues the EZZ0331I message always has. I also get this if I do an OBEYFILE that alters any of the devices in the TCPIP profile. At this point I did not have any DYNAMICXCF statements active in My TCPIP profile I know that DYNAMICXCF dynamically create IUSAMEH statement for you if you have it allocated you get a duplicate IUSAMEH error message when you bring TCPIP up. Hope this has cleared this up Let me know of not. One question I have 2 OSA cards with 64 address defined to each port. The devices are attached to ZOS systems under VM of on 1st OSA I have 1600-1603 attached to ZPLEX1 as 400-403 with a port name of OSA400, I have 1604-1607 attached to ZPLEX2 400-403 with a port name of OSA400 and all subsequent systems that use the 16nn OSA range this is what it seems to imply by the 3150 error. X'3150' Wrong Portname Explanation: An attempt was made to activate an OSA-Express port in QDIO mode. The Portname for this activation attempt did not match the Portname already assigned to this port by a previous user. All z/OS users of that port must activate with the same Portname. Best Regards Stuart -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chris Mason Sent: 21 February 2009 09:29 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: OSA's Error codes Stuart Would you know how it came about that there the following message appeared in the log in your first post but did *not* appear in the two logs in your second post? EZZ0331I NO HOME ADDRESS ASSIGNED TO LINK IUTSAMEH Did you have explicitly defined a pair of DEVICE and LINK statements in essence if not completely as follows: DEVICE IUTSAMEH MPCPTP LINK IUTSAMEH MPCPTP IUTSAMEH which you removed? It would be surprising if you had removed that DEVICE and LINK pair and then performed your tests in answer to Ed Finnell's post since it was precisely that interface definition to which Ed was referring! Chris Mason On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:22:29 -, Stuart Willis stuart.wil...@willdata.com wrote: Hi I have proved (I think) that the OSA dose have a Home address. Output from the TCPIP proc with a Home address all I get is the EZZ4310I --- - THURSDAY, 19 FEB 2009 IEF695I START TCPIPWITH JOBNAME TCPIPIS ASSIGNED TO USER TCPIP , GRO $HASP373 TCPIPSTARTED IEF403I TCPIP - STARTED - TIME=09.03.46 IEE252I MEMBER CTIEZB00 FOUND IN ADCD.Z110.PARMLIB IEE252I MEMBER CTIIDS00 FOUND IN SYS1.PARMLIB IEE252I MEMBER CTINTA00 FOUND IN SYS1.PARMLIB EZZ7450I FFST SUBSYSTEM IS NOT INSTALLED EZZ0162I HOST NAME FOR TCPIP IS ZOS10 EZZ0300I OPENED PROFILE FILE DD:PROFILE EZZ0309I PROFILE PROCESSING BEGINNING FOR DD:PROFILE EZZ0316I PROFILE PROCESSING COMPLETE FOR FILE DD:PROFILE EZZ0334I IP FORWARDING IS DISABLED EZZ0335I ICMP WILL IGNORE REDIRECTS EZZ0338I TCP PORTS 1 THRU 1023 ARE RESERVED EZZ0338I UDP PORTS 1 THRU 1023 ARE RESERVED EZZ4202I Z/OS UNIX - TCP/IP CONNECTION ESTABLISHED FOR TCPIP EZZ4310I ERROR: CODE=80103150 REPORTED ON DEVICE OSA400. DIAGNOSTIC CODE: 03 EZZ4315I DEACTIVATION COMPLETE FOR DEVICE OSA400 EZB6473I TCP/IP STACK FUNCTIONS INITIALIZATION COMPLETE. EZAIN11I ALL TCPIP SERVICES FOR PROC TCPIP ARE AVAILABLE. EZD1176I TCPIP HAS SUCCESSFULLY JOINED THE TCP/IP SYSPLEX GROUP EZBTCPCS S FTPD S PORTMAP EZZ0162I HOST NAME FOR TCPIP IS ZOS10 EZZ0300I OPENED PROFILE FILE DD:PROFILE EZZ0309I PROFILE PROCESSING BEGINNING FOR DD:PROFILE EZZ0316I PROFILE PROCESSING COMPLETE FOR FILE DD:PROFILE EZZ0334I IP FORWARDING IS
Re: Bursts of high paging
First, are these page in or page out operations? Page out operations are asynchronous and therefore of no concern. I'd dig a little deeper, and, if the average page in rate is zero, I'd rest easy. My $0.02 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Peter Kvernes Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 7:15 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Bursts of high paging Hi, We have a z/os 1.8 system experiencing bursts of high paging. This is most noteably seen by using SDSF Display Active and using sort paging d (escending). It is only swappable adresspaces that pages. Does SRM still do working set trimming before doing a logical swap? This last only a few seconds, and then there is a new burst with some other adrspaces. Is there a way to avoid this without making everything Nonswappable? The adrspaces that is paging is typically MQCFG and USS ardspaces. In general, the paging rate overall is close to zero. Appreciate any feedback. Rgds Peter -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES2 exits and ACF2
Mark, It turns out you had the solution. We did not add all the ACF2 JES2 exit recommended by CA. All exits work fine after adding the exits and a re-IPL on 2/16. The fallback issue is a mute point in that it was to z/OS 1.4 so no help would have been available from IBM. Our management was told that IBM does not support fallback from z/OS 1.8 to 1.4. Regards, Listen. Think. Solve. Steve Wolf Rockwell Automation 414-382-4308 Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 02/15/2009 07:35 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu cc Subject Re: JES2 exits and ACF2 On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 13:54:25 -0600, Stephen Wolf srw...@ra.rockwell.com wrote: Hello list, We just upgraded our production LPAR (no sysplex) to z/os 1.8. We had to create a JES2 exit 52 because we use exit 2. The testing for our code was successful on the test LPAR. Today we discoved what appears to be an issue with the ACF2 exit 52. One home grown application is not functioning anymore. Now we tried to fall back to z/OS 1.4 but get a wait 64. Last Sunday we did fall back to 1.4 on the production LPAR. We can not get ACF2 help today. Has anyone had issues with this situation? I suspect the issue is with the ENVIRON=USER that we had to code in our JES2 exit 52 code. We would appreciate it if anyone has any ideas that you could share today. (Management was aware that IBM does not support this fallback) Not sure what your fall back wait is due to (need SA dump to tell probably), but it isn't clear what your problem is. Is it the home grown exit 52, or ACF2's exit 52? First you say it's ACF2 then you say you think is because of ENVIRON=USER with your home grown exit 52. What type of error? Or is it just the app is failing? I assume you did all the ACF2 setup correctly, but in case you didn't, review their documentation. You have to change LOADMOD(ACFJ2ITF) from STORAGE=PVT to STORAGE=CSA as well as add ACF2's exit 52 and 54. You also have to do the same with LOADMOD(ACFJ2USR) and add EXITs 228 229 (though you may not use the pre-validation exits). Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Pedantic Tape Analyzer?
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 7:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Pedantic Tape Analyzer? On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:31:09 -0500, Thompson, Steve wrote: SNIPPAGE I don't know if you want to go this far, but if your tape utility is also going to have some part(s) that are not fully attached (that is, must be linked to your main routines), you could put them into the system Label Exit (DFP/DFSMS part of the system?). I know it exists, but I don't know the name. I know you can use it to handle things for AL tapes (that's how I stumbled upon its existence about 8 months ago). Can this be done in a way that's nondisruptive; transparent to users other than me? SNIP To my knowledge, you can put out WTOs in the JOBLOG. If they pay attention to them, then it won't be so transparent. But after reading more and having a better understanding of what you want to do, forget I even mentioned the exit points. snip During the pass to the exit of the label(s), you could verify that they match the VOL1 contents. I don't know when or how that exit point is invoked for trailer labels. Can this be written in Rexx? IANASP. IANAHLASMP. SNIP AFAIR, no, this must be assembled and linked and AC=1 type stuff. SNIP Otherwise, you will probably have to satisfy yourself with the DCB label exit point -- unless you want to do EXCP and BLP :-) . Currently, I'm using BLP, RECFM=U, and LMGET. That's how I noticed the discrepancy between the VOL1 and HDR1 volsers. Further thought: How about validating SDWs? Continuation bits valid, and continuation allowed only when RECFM=VBS? Etc. (Relentlessly pedantic.) SNIP I think you can do all you are trying to do with REXX as long as you are specifying RECFM=U. You will have some fun handling all of this. It almost sounds like you are trying to write part of DITTO. Regards, Steve Thompson -- Opinions expressed by this poster may not be those of poster's employer. -- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Pedantic Tape Analyzer?
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 10:08:20 -0500, Thompson, Steve wrote: I think you can do all you are trying to do with REXX as long as you are specifying RECFM=U. You will have some fun handling all of this. Alas, EXECIO won't do RECFM=U. So I try LMGET. LMGET won't do tape. (Or will it? Am I missing something? I think I'll ask on ISPF-L.) So I'm REPROing the RECFM=U, dataset by dataset, to DASD and reading that with LMGET. Silicon is cheaper than carbon. It almost sounds like you are trying to write part of DITTO. Close. We're dealing with a media replication vendor who uses an idiosyncratic tape image format concocted by a contractor. (*Our* contractor! I wish I had been in the loop at the specification phase and had specified AWSTAPE. Too late; money under the bridge.) Both we and the vendor would like to short circuit delivery of tape masters by express, so I'm trying to reverse-engineer the archive format. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Deleting UnExpired dataset using JCL
I know about IDCAMS, but the user wants a pure JCL solution. Then the user is out of luck. The best that can happen is there's a WTOR, to ask if it's okay. And, I believe that's only if there is write activity to the dataset. I don't recall what happens with a delete. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Bursts of high paging
Is there a way to avoid this without making everything Nonswappable? The adrspaces that is paging is typically MQCFG and USS ardspaces. There are two ways: 1. Upgrade your memory. 2. Move the tasks out of SYSSTC to a user-defined Service Class. You may have to make them Memory Critical. There is no memory management for SYSTEM SYSSTC, unless the WLM has detected that they are servicing another class and memory issues are causing the delay. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
New public course: Assembler intro
We have a client who has agreed to host a public offering of one of our most popular courses: OS/390 Assembler Language: Classic. This is our five-day Intro to Assembler class. The client only has one or two students, so we are hoping to find enough students from other companies to hold the class. Date: April 20-24, 2009 Location: Leawood, Kansas (near Kansas City) Tuition: $1250 per student Course details: http://www.trainersfriend.com/Assembler_%20courses/C410descrpt.htm Please contact me off-list if you have an interest in this. Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include + How things work + Programming examples with realistic applications + Starter / skeleton code + Complete working programs + Useful utilities and subroutines + Tips and techniques == Check out the Trainer's Friend Store to purchase z/OS == == application developer toolkits. Sample code in four== == programming languages, JCL to Assemble or compile, == == bind and test. == == http://www.trainersfriend.com/TTFStore/index.html== -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Deleting UnExpired dataset using JCL
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 15:57:05 +, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: I know about IDCAMS, but the user wants a pure JCL solution. Then the user is out of luck. The best that can happen is there's a WTOR, to ask if it's okay. And, I believe that's only if there is write activity to the dataset. I don't recall what happens with a delete. - Depends on the definition of pure JCL. The following should work: //STEP1 EXEC PGM=IKJEFT1A, // PARM='DEL ''dsn'' PURGE' //SYSTSIN DD DUMMY //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=* //* -- John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Deleting UnExpired dataset using JCL
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 14:23:16 +0200, ××× ×× ××× wrote: I know about IDCAMS, but the user wants a pure JCL solution. Gadi What's pure JCL? In my experience, JCL for any valid job must contain at least one //label EXEC PGM=whatever statement. That whatever might as well be IDCAMS. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Performance
IBM did not have much to say about following 'cept 'don't do that'; any comments, experience? Upgraded from CICS T/S 1.3 to CICS T/S 3.2 without redefining the CICS IXGLOGR files... System performance degraded... Redefined the CICS IXGLOGR files and system returned to normal... May we assume that using the CICS T/S 1.3 IXGLOGR files with CICS T/S 3.2 was the true cause of our system performance degradation? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Deleting UnExpired dataset using JCL
There isn't one. גדי בן אבי wrote: I know about IDCAMS, but the user wants a pure JCL solution. Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Shorkend Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 2:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Deleting UnExpired dataset using JCL Gadi Try using IDCAMS DELETE with the PURGE option e.g. // EXEC PGM=IDCAMS //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSIN DD * DEL V110.TGBA.TESTDEL PURGE Mike On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 1:59 PM, גדי בן אבי gad...@malam.com wrote: Hi, How do I delete a non sms dataset with an expiration date using JCL. If the dataset does not have an expiration date, I can use DISP=(SHR,DELETE). If the dataset is sms managed, the OVRD_EXPDT allows the override of the expiration date. Is there a way to accomplish this for non sms datasets? IF I run this job: //STEP1 EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 //DD1 DD DSN=V110.TGBA.TESTDEL,DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),UNIT=3390, // SPACE=(TRK,1),LRECL=80,RETPD=2,VOL=SER=PRJ002 //DEL EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 //DD1 DD DSN=V110.TGBA.TESTDEL,DISP=(SHR,DELETE),RETPD=0 The first step works, and the second step iisues: IEC614I SCRATCH FAILED - RC 008, DIAGNOSTIC INFORMATION IS (040B004B), ,PRJ002,V110.TGBA.TESTDEL The 040B004B reason code means that the dataset is not expired. Can anyone help? Gadi -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Rick -- Remember that if you’re not the lead dog, the view never changes. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Deleting UnExpired dataset using JCL
I may be late and missed some of the dialog on this but Has this been mentioned. //S005EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 //DD1 DD DSN=name.xxx,DISP=(MOD,DELETE), //UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(TRK,(0)) // -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Deleting UnExpired dataset using JCL On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 14:23:16 +0200, ××× ×× ××× wrote: I know about IDCAMS, but the user wants a pure JCL solution. Gadi What's pure JCL? In my experience, JCL for any valid job must contain at least one //label EXEC PGM=whatever statement. That whatever might as well be IDCAMS. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Long overdue upgrade
As part of a replacement for a 12 year old system at a customer site in Japan, we will be replacing PCs running Windows 95 and IBM's PCOMM 3270 emulator with new PCs running Vista (don't bother) and a PCOMM replacement from IBM called Host Access Client Package. This new package comes with two pretty hefty price tags: approximately $1,000 purchase price per PC and approximately $250 per PC per year license fees. We will have 40 PCs. I can live with the $40K one time purchase cost even though I think it is pretty high but it seems absurd that the $10K license fees are 1/4 of the purchase price. In my experience, this is not the type of package that gets updated very often (actually I've never seen a 3270 emulator update). Does anyone have any experience with this Host Access Client Package? Are the fees comparable in other countries? Do other packages (Extra, Rumba, etc) charge annual fees? I would love to use one of the 3270 emulation products frequently mentioned here but I'm going to need ammunition to hurdle the political inertia. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
3270 emulator cost
As part of a replacement for a 12 year old system at a customer site in Japan, we will be replacing PCs running Windows 95 and IBM's PCOMM 3270 emulator with new PCs running Vista (don't bother) and a PCOMM replacement from IBM called Host Access Client Package. This new package comes with two pretty hefty price tags: approximately $1,000 purchase price per PC and approximately $250 per PC per year license fees. We will have 40 PCs. I can live with the $40K one time purchase cost even though I think it is pretty high but it seems absurd that the $10K license fees are 1/4 of the purchase price. In my experience, this is not the type of package that gets updated very often (actually I've never seen a 3270 emulator update). Does anyone have any experience with this Host Access Client Package? Are the fees comparable in other countries? Do other packages (Extra, Rumba, etc) charge annual fees? I would love to use one of the 3270 emulation products frequently mentioned here but I'm going to need ammunition to overcome the political inertia. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Long overdue upgrade
Schwarz, Barry A wrote: As part of a replacement for a 12 year old system at a customer site in Japan, we will be replacing PCs running Windows 95 and IBM's PCOMM 3270 emulator with new PCs running Vista (don't bother) and a PCOMM replacement from IBM called Host Access Client Package. This new package comes with two pretty hefty price tags: approximately $1,000 purchase price per PC and approximately $250 per PC per year license fees. We will have 40 PCs. I can live with the $40K one time purchase cost even though I think it is pretty high but it seems absurd that the $10K license fees are 1/4 of the purchase price. In my experience, this is not the type of package that gets updated very often (actually I've never seen a 3270 emulator update). Does anyone have any experience with this Host Access Client Package? Are the fees comparable in other countries? Do other packages (Extra, Rumba, etc) charge annual fees? I would love to use one of the 3270 emulation products frequently mentioned here but I'm going to need ammunition to hurdle the political inertia. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Take a look at the windows version of the x3270 program at http://x3270.bgp.nu/download.html I use the Un*x program on my workstation (FreeBSD) and it does everything I need to connect to the mainframe. The bean counters love it since its totally free. -- Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Tampa, FL Almost any problem can be solved by reversing the polarity of the neutron flow. --Doctor Who -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Long overdue upgrade
There is an annual maintenance fee with Extra. My recommendation if you can convince them is to go with Tom Brennan's Vista package - http://www.tombrennansoftware.com/ The price is significantly less at $30 per seat and zero maintenance. He also offer quantity discounts. So $40K one time plus $10K/year or $30 * 40 (or $1200) with the potential for less with a qty discount. - seems like a no brainer good luck Lionel B. Dyck, Consultant/Specialist ?Never attribute to malice what can be caused by miscommunication.? NOTICE TO RECIPIENT: If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are prohibited from sharing, copying, or otherwise using or disclosing its contents. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete this e-mail and any attachments without reading, forwarding or saving them. Thank you. From: Schwarz, Barry A barry.a.schw...@boeing.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 02/24/2009 10:29 AM Subject: Re: Long overdue upgrade Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu As part of a replacement for a 12 year old system at a customer site in Japan, we will be replacing PCs running Windows 95 and IBM's PCOMM 3270 emulator with new PCs running Vista (don't bother) and a PCOMM replacement from IBM called Host Access Client Package. This new package comes with two pretty hefty price tags: approximately $1,000 purchase price per PC and approximately $250 per PC per year license fees. We will have 40 PCs. I can live with the $40K one time purchase cost even though I think it is pretty high but it seems absurd that the $10K license fees are 1/4 of the purchase price. In my experience, this is not the type of package that gets updated very often (actually I've never seen a 3270 emulator update). Does anyone have any experience with this Host Access Client Package? Are the fees comparable in other countries? Do other packages (Extra, Rumba, etc) charge annual fees? I would love to use one of the 3270 emulation products frequently mentioned here but I'm going to need ammunition to hurdle the political inertia. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3270 emulator cost
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Schwarz, Barry A Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:31 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: 3270 emulator cost As part of a replacement for a 12 year old system at a customer site in Japan, we will be replacing PCs running Windows 95 and IBM's PCOMM 3270 emulator with new PCs running Vista (don't bother) and a PCOMM replacement from IBM called Host Access Client Package. This new package comes with two pretty hefty price tags: approximately $1,000 purchase price per PC and approximately $250 per PC per year license fees. We will have 40 PCs. I can live with the $40K one time purchase cost even though I think it is pretty high but it seems absurd that the $10K license fees are 1/4 of the purchase price. In my experience, this is not the type of package that gets updated very often (actually I've never seen a 3270 emulator update). Does anyone have any experience with this Host Access Client Package? Are the fees comparable in other countries? Do other packages (Extra, Rumba, etc) charge annual fees? I would love to use one of the 3270 emulation products frequently mentioned here but I'm going to need ammunition to overcome the political inertia. SNIP QWS3270 (Jolly Giant) does have annual maint fees. And they do put out some maint yearly. I'm *guessing* that for 40 seats, Jolly Giant would be in the neighborhood of US$600 (initial) if not less for a site license and annual maint after that less than $100. So if the parties concerned aren't math challenged... Regards, Steve Thompson -- Opinions expressed by this poster may not be those of poster's employer. -- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3270 emulator cost
Try www.ericom.com I worked with most products in the market, they are second best only to IBMs PCOM and only because they don't support console streams. Itschak On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Schwarz, Barry A barry.a.schw...@boeing.com wrote: As part of a replacement for a 12 year old system at a customer site in Japan, we will be replacing PCs running Windows 95 and IBM's PCOMM 3270 emulator with new PCs running Vista (don't bother) and a PCOMM replacement from IBM called Host Access Client Package. This new package comes with two pretty hefty price tags: approximately $1,000 purchase price per PC and approximately $250 per PC per year license fees. We will have 40 PCs. I can live with the $40K one time purchase cost even though I think it is pretty high but it seems absurd that the $10K license fees are 1/4 of the purchase price. In my experience, this is not the type of package that gets updated very often (actually I've never seen a 3270 emulator update). Does anyone have any experience with this Host Access Client Package? Are the fees comparable in other countries? Do other packages (Extra, Rumba, etc) charge annual fees? I would love to use one of the 3270 emulation products frequently mentioned here but I'm going to need ammunition to overcome the political inertia. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
What do you call...
...your: network folks security folks sysprogs applications programmers ? No, I don't mean those buttheads from downstairs, I mean what titles do they typically have? We're discussing this internally and realized we don't really know -- Engineer gets used a lot these days, except in countries where Engineer means you have an iron ring (or drive a train). And yes, I know some folks are forbidden to discuss such things; if you can't, don't :-) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Deleting UnExpired dataset using JCL
I may be late and missed some of the dialog on this but Has this been mentioned. //S005EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 //DD1 DD DSN=name.xxx,DISP=(MOD,DELETE), //UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(TRK,(0)) Yes. It failed because the dataset had a future expiry date. That was basically the content of the original post. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3270 emulator cost
VISTA3270 at $30 per copy is the best I have used. There is no yearly maintenance fee, but you can always get the latest version. Also Tom is quick to respond to any problems discovered. My evaluation of 'best' is based on what it does, not the price. I have used three other emulators, none of which were as good as Vista3270 Christopher Y. Blaicher Senior Software Developer Austin Development Lab phone: 512.340.6154 moble: 512.627.3803 fax: 512.340.6647 10431 Morado Circle Austin, TX 78759 BMC Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Schwarz, Barry A Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:31 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: 3270 emulator cost As part of a replacement for a 12 year old system at a customer site in Japan, we will be replacing PCs running Windows 95 and IBM's PCOMM 3270 emulator with new PCs running Vista (don't bother) and a PCOMM replacement from IBM called Host Access Client Package. This new package comes with two pretty hefty price tags: approximately $1,000 purchase price per PC and approximately $250 per PC per year license fees. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3270 emulator cost
I would put TLS/SSL capability at number one on my requirements list. Lack of console support is a deal breaker for me. For many types of workstations, a secure FTP feature is also on my 'must have' list. Depending on the business mission, I'd consider some special purpose 3270 'thin client' machines. Consider that any Windows machine is going to need a near constant stream of fixes and the reboots therein. Just some thoughts. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Schwarz, Barry A Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:31 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: 3270 emulator cost As part of a replacement for a 12 year old system at a customer site in Japan, we will be replacing PCs running Windows 95 and IBM's PCOMM 3270 emulator with new PCs running Vista (don't bother) and a PCOMM replacement from IBM called Host Access Client Package. This new package comes with two pretty hefty price tags: approximately $1,000 purchase price per PC and approximately $250 per PC per year license fees. We will have 40 PCs. I can live with the $40K one time purchase cost even though I think it is pretty high but it seems absurd that the $10K license fees are 1/4 of the purchase price. In my experience, this is not the type of package that gets updated very often (actually I've never seen a 3270 emulator update). Does anyone have any experience with this Host Access Client Package? Are the fees comparable in other countries? Do other packages (Extra, Rumba, etc) charge annual fees? I would love to use one of the 3270 emulation products frequently mentioned here but I'm going to need ammunition to overcome the political inertia. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What do you call...
network folks
Network Analyst
Network Programmer
security folks
Security Analyst
Security Administrater
Security Co-ordinator
sysprogs
Systems Programmer
Technical Analyst
applications programmers
Programmer
Analyst
Programmer Analyst
All of these can/have come with qualifiers of:
Junior
Intermediate
Associate
Senior
Or, followed by:
I
II
III
I've
And, even more senior sometimes get:
Specialist
Architect
added in, somehow.
Reminds me of the Jargon Generator Joke.
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Re: 3270 emulator cost
Schwarz, Barry A wrote: Does anyone have any experience with this Host Access Client Package? Are the fees comparable in other countries? Do other packages (Extra, Rumba, etc) charge annual fees? EVERYONE with a reasonably current copy of PCOMM has experience with this package. It's just PCOMM, packaged with Host on Demand. (Read about it on IBM's web site.) I agree, the price is ridiculous. But, you should be able to buy just one copy, deploy HOD on Linux, WIndows, or z/OS, and get 95% of PCOMM facilities for almost free. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What do you call...
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: snip Or, followed by: I II III I've Thanks! Just curious -- was the I've spellcheck/autocorrect to the (un)rescue? Or automatic fingers? (There are words I can't type reliably because they're too close to other words; some are userids of folks I worked with for a long time--I have trouble typing Michael with a trailing J after working with a michaelj for a decade!) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3270 emulator cost
Barry, I'd check out www.sdisw.com for Tn3270 Plus which is around $40. We are also using their FTP client, LPD. Tn3270 also works as a console on our z9 mainframe. It also supports Vista. Don Don Bolton Director Technical Services www.OpentechSystems.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Schwarz, Barry A Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:31 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: 3270 emulator cost As part of a replacement for a 12 year old system at a customer site in Japan, we will be replacing PCs running Windows 95 and IBM's PCOMM 3270 emulator with new PCs running Vista (don't bother) and a PCOMM replacement from IBM called Host Access Client Package. This new package comes with two pretty hefty price tags: approximately $1,000 purchase price per PC and approximately $250 per PC per year license fees. We will have 40 PCs. I can live with the $40K one time purchase cost even though I think it is pretty high but it seems absurd that the $10K license fees are 1/4 of the purchase price. In my experience, this is not the type of package that gets updated very often (actually I've never seen a 3270 emulator update). Does anyone have any experience with this Host Access Client Package? Are the fees comparable in other countries? Do other packages (Extra, Rumba, etc) charge annual fees? I would love to use one of the 3270 emulation products frequently mentioned here but I'm going to need ammunition to overcome the political inertia. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What do you call...
Network technicians. Security Administrators, Security Officers, or Application Administrators. (Each have defined roles). System Administrators. Application Programmers. Use of the title 'engineer' may or may not involve legal or regulatory issues. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of P S Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:49 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: What do you call... ...your: network folks security folks sysprogs applications programmers ? No, I don't mean those buttheads from downstairs, I mean what titles do they typically have? We're discussing this internally and realized we don't really know -- Engineer gets used a lot these days, except in countries where Engineer means you have an iron ring (or drive a train). And yes, I know some folks are forbidden to discuss such things; if you can't, don't :-) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
new ftp userid
I have created a new userid in RACF to use with FTP clients on other systems. The other systems will FTP to my z/OS and use this id to log on. When I try to use the new userid I get an error that says Pass Fail. Is there something I have to refresh in order for this userid to be used with FTP ? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What do you call...
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 12:48:51 -0600, P S zosw...@gmail.com wrote: ...your: network folks security folks sysprogs applications programmers ? 1) Network folks 2) Security folks 3) Sysprogs 4) Application programmers :-) Ok... only half kidding. Are you talking about the mainframe people only?Most have the official HR title of System Engineer with a number. System Engineer IV - for example. Going by management designations: 1) Network is Network Telecom - but this is WAN/LAN. In the case of the mainframe sysprogs, The VTAM group or The VTAM and TCP/IP group. I try to call them the Comm server group (they are part of the OS mainframe group - same as the MVS sysprogs). 2) Security. I'm not sure what they call the distributed folks, either security techs or security operations, network security. For the mainframe they call them RACF Admins or Security Admins 3) ___ system programmer (or sysprog) Fill in the blank with MVS, VTAM, CICS, DB2, MQ, or WebSphere. All but MVS and VTAM fall under middleware as opposed to operating system. This is true for unix and wintel also. There is also The automation group that has mainframe and distributed folks and also works with the monitors. 4) Application programmers. -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What do you call...
I've Thanks! Just curious -- was the I've spellcheck/autocorrect to the (un)rescue? Yes. I missed it. It was supposed to be IV (Roman Numeral FOUR). There are words I can't type reliably because they're too close to other words; I've been unable to type the word RATIO, reliably, for over 30 years. Ironic since we capacity analysts talk about the CAPTURE RATIO all the time. It comes out RATION, and I always have to go back and correct it. (Even one of the above came out wrong, the first time) - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: new ftp userid
I'd say the password is wrong or expired. Initial passwords are set to expired by default. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of David Hanson Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 1:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: new ftp userid I have created a new userid in RACF to use with FTP clients on other systems. The other systems will FTP to my z/OS and use this id to log on. When I try to use the new userid I get an error that says Pass Fail. Is there something I have to refresh in order for this userid to be used with FTP ? NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What do you call...
Use of the title 'engineer' may or may not involve legal or regulatory issues. I know it does in Canada. I believe it does in the US. IBM, aeons ago, had to change the title of Customer Engineer to Customer Engineering Representative, for example. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3270 emulator cost
- Original Message - From: Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 2:02 PM Subject: Re: 3270 emulator cost Schwarz, Barry A wrote: Does anyone have any experience with this Host Access Client Package? Are the fees comparable in other countries? Do other packages (Extra, Rumba, etc) charge annual fees? EVERYONE with a reasonably current copy of PCOMM has experience with this package. It's just PCOMM, packaged with Host on Demand. (Read about it on IBM's web site.) I agree, the price is ridiculous. But, you should be able to buy just one copy, deploy HOD on Linux, WIndows, or z/OS, and get 95% of PCOMM facilities for almost free. I must take issue with my good friend Edward Jaffe over his recommendation of HOD. The HOD installs I've used are just abysmal. No keyboard mapping, bad highlighting and 3270 extended stream support, screwy fonts, no IND$FILE support, just to name a few. I recommend Tom Brennan's Vista. At $30 a seat for a perpetual license, you can't get a better TN3270 emulator. Not only is it cheap, it's way better than PCOMM, Extra, RUMBA, etc. Check it out at www.tombrennansoftware.com. Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Deleting Unexpired dataset using JCL
You can override the expiration date or retention period, when deleting SMS-managed data sets, by coding OVRD_EXPDT(YES) in your IGDSMSxx member. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Deleting UnExpired dataset using JCL I may be late and missed some of the dialog on this but Has this been mentioned. //S005EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 //DD1 DD DSN=name.xxx,DISP=(MOD,DELETE), //UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(TRK,(0)) Yes. It failed because the dataset had a future expiry date. That was basically the content of the original post. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3270 emulator cost
Pinnacle wrote: I must take issue with my good friend Edward Jaffe over his recommendation of HOD. The HOD installs I've used are just abysmal. No keyboard mapping, bad highlighting and 3270 extended stream support, screwy fonts, no IND$FILE support, just to name a few. Hmmm. I'm playing with it now and it looks pretty good (other than I can't figure out how to get a 90x142 display like I'm accustomed to.) But, it looks good at 43x80. I see it has support for ftp file transfers. Isn't that even better than IND$FILE? I recommend Tom Brennan's Vista. At $30 a seat for a perpetual license, you can't get a better TN3270 emulator. Not only is it cheap, it's way better than PCOMM, Extra, RUMBA, etc. Check it out at www.tombrennansoftware.com. One thing I really appreciate about Tom's emulator is the support for user-specified default screen sizes. But, last I checked, it wouldn't accept anything above 70 something rows for the default screen size. It was disconcerting to have a 70x80 default screen size and 90x142 alternate. I like keeping the rows the same (90x80 default and 90x142 alternate). -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What do you call...
Here's our System Programming group titles: Principal Systems Engineer Senior Systems Engineer System Engineer III, II, I HR decided that as a corporation we had too many titles and so streamlined them a couple of years ago, I think down to about 750 from over 1500. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of P S Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:49 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: What do you call... ...your: network folks security folks sysprogs applications programmers ? No, I don't mean those buttheads from downstairs, I mean what titles do they typically have? We're discussing this internally and realized we don't really know -- Engineer gets used a lot these days, except in countries where Engineer means you have an iron ring (or drive a train). And yes, I know some folks are forbidden to discuss such things; if you can't, don't :-) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: new ftp userid
Thanks Hal. I reset the password and specified no to expired. Thanks, Dave Hanson 464-8889 Hal Merritt hmerr...@jackhenry.com 2/24/2009 2:25 PM I'd say the password is wrong or expired. Initial passwords are set to expired by default. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of David Hanson Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 1:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: new ftp userid I have created a new userid in RACF to use with FTP clients on other systems. The other systems will FTP to my z/OS and use this id to log on. When I try to use the new userid I get an error that says Pass Fail. Is there something I have to refresh in order for this userid to be used with FTP ? NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Deleting Unexpired dataset using JCL
You can override the expiration date or retention period, when deleting SMS-managed data sets, by coding OVRD_EXPDT(YES) in your IGDSMSxx member. Yes. Check the archives. It WAS a non-SMS dataset. You're going over already covered ground! - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What do you call...
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:27:12 +, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: Use of the title 'engineer' may or may not involve legal or regulatory issues. I know it does in Canada. I believe it does in the US. It must not in the U.S. Almost everyone in tech or operations IT here has that title. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FDR Backups for Linux?
Do not quite have a requirement for 24/7 but what is done is the Linux Systems are terminated for a very short time, all the z/VM volume containing the minidisk of Linux file systems are SNAPPED over to separate disks and the Virtual Linux machines are then brought back up. The outage is very small. Then we can take our time about backing up the z/VM-Linux volumes to our z/OS system which does all the heavy lifting with its great automation, etc. Yes, for a whole bunch more money we could attempt to engineer 24/7, etc, but for almost no extra costs, this is very doable. jim -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Pedantic Tape Analyzer?
Paul Gilmartin wrote: Lately, examining a dump of a tape output from SAS TAPECOPY, I noticed that the volser in the HDR1 records did not match the volser in the VOL1 record. OK. IBM doc says this field is defined but not verified by OPEN/CLOSE processing, etc. But I'm working on a utility of my own, for complex reasons. I'd like to do better than SAS. How can I verify the result? Is there a utility to which I could pass a (putatively) standard labeled tape, such as that output from SAS TAPECOPY which would report loud and clear on irregularities such as the volser mismatch, possible block count errors in trailer labels, all such? Bruce Black probably would have known; we all miss him; I for some volunteer research he did when I asked another stupid question years ago. Thanks, gil I suspect that Innovations FATS/FATAR would do this, but we don't have it so I don't know. Leonard Worens tape map might do this as well. There may be programs on the CBT tape as well. The HDR1/VOL1 mismatch is not necessarily a problem. If this is a multi-volume dataset, the HDR1 has the serial number of the first volume. If you want to do this yourself, I think you will need to open the tape with BLP and read through the tape doing whatever label checking you want to do. You will need to count the data blocks between labels to verify the block count, etc. Richard -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What do you call...
Use of the title 'engineer' may or may not involve legal or regulatory issues. I know it does in Canada. I believe it does in the US. It must not in the U.S. Almost everyone in tech or operations IT here has that title. I stand, or sit, corrected. I was going by what a few P. Eng's told me, including my brother who is a Computer Engineer. Also, just because it is a regulatory issue, doesn't mean the title is applied appropriately. 20 years ago, I held the title Senior Systems Engineer, which was after the P. Eng's in Canada complained about the bestowing of the title. I mentioned it to HR, and they told me to stop worrying. So, only a P. Eng in your home country can tell us for sure. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What do you call...
I believe this may vary from state to state in the US. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 1:52 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: What do you call... On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:27:12 +, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: Use of the title 'engineer' may or may not involve legal or regulatory issues. I know it does in Canada. I believe it does in the US. It must not in the U.S. Almost everyone in tech or operations IT here has that title. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: new ftp userid
Keep in mind that users will have to know how to do that using RFC FTP syntax or whatever client software they choose. For some clients: PASS oldpassword/newpassword/newpassword HTH and good luck. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of David Hanson Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 1:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: new ftp userid Thanks Hal. I reset the password and specified no to expired. Thanks, Dave Hanson 464-8889 Hal Merritt hmerr...@jackhenry.com 2/24/2009 2:25 PM I'd say the password is wrong or expired. Initial passwords are set to expired by default. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of David Hanson Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 1:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: new ftp userid I have created a new userid in RACF to use with FTP clients on other systems. The other systems will FTP to my z/OS and use this id to log on. When I try to use the new userid I get an error that says Pass Fail. Is there something I have to refresh in order for this userid to be used with FTP ? NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
File Transfer Issue
I am transferring a certificate that is in ascii armored format from my desktop to the mainframe using wsftp pro. For some reason only part of the cert is transferred. Below is the ftp log, in the log is an 504 error which is means 'Command not implemented for that parameter.' Can some one explain what that means and how can I get around it. Thanks Matt PWD 257 'XX.' is working directory. TYPE A 200 Representation type is Ascii NonPrint PASV 227 Entering Passive Mode (27,1,39,75,12,113) connecting data channel to 27.1.39.75:3185 data channel connected to 27.1.39.75:3185 LIST 125 List started OK transferred 11970 bytes in 0.656 seconds, 142.495 Kbps ( 17.812 KBps), transfer succeeded. Starting request REST 1024 504 Restart requires Block or Compressed transfer mode. TYPE I 200 Representation type is Image PASV 227 Entering Passive Mode (27,1,39,75,12,118) connecting data channel to 27.1.39.75:3190 data channel connected to 27.1.39.75:3190 STOR bom2009.cer 125 Storing data set ST1MAT.BOM2009.CER transferred 1789 bytes in 0.001 seconds, 13976.563 Kbps ( 1747.070 KBps), transfer succeeded. 250 Transfer completed successfully. Transfer request completed with status: Finished TYPE A 200 Representation type is Ascii NonPrint PASV 227 Entering Passive Mode (27,1,39,75,12,119) connecting data channel to 27.1.39.75:3191 data channel connected to 27.1.39.75:3191 LIST 125 List started OK transferred 11970 bytes in 0.625 seconds, 149.620 Kbps ( 18.703 KBps), transfer succeeded. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What do you call...
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 13:23:19 -0600, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com wrote: On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 12:48:51 -0600, P S zosw...@gmail.com wrote: ...your: network folks security folks sysprogs applications programmers ? 1) Network folks 2) Security folks 3) Sysprogs 4) Application programmers :-) Ok... only half kidding. ... I have to agree, except that instead of Sysprogs I call them MVS folks (even when messing around with the /etc/ directory) CICS folks (even when they are working on DB2) us (when working on VTAM, TCP/IP, NetView, etc.) I've never worked at a shop where official names meant anything at all. I'm officially Technical Specialist-Sr which implies asolutely nothing. I think Network folks is particularly misleading ... especially when applied to me. I makes people think I might know something about networks, for instance. When branded with that label I usually responds MVS system programmer specializing in communication software. (I may not know squat about a router but I know that Spin Loop message explains why VTAM and TCP/IP were brain-dead for a while.) Pat O'Keefe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Deleting UnExpired dataset using JCL
On 24 Feb 2009 10:51:47 -0800, eamacn...@yahoo.ca (Ted MacNEIL) wrote: //S005EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 //DD1 DD DSN=name.xxx,DISP=(MOD,DELETE), //UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(TRK,(0)) Yes. It failed because the dataset had a future expiry date. That was basically the content of the original post. It also, like every JCL job, contains something other than pure JCL, in this case the IEFBR14 program. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Deleting UnExpired dataset using JCL
Have you tried : //DEL EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01 //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSTSIN DD * DEL 'V110.TGBA.TESTDEL' PURGE Frank The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Howard Brazee Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 3:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Deleting UnExpired dataset using JCL On 24 Feb 2009 10:51:47 -0800, eamacn...@yahoo.ca (Ted MacNEIL) wrote: //S005EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 //DD1 DD DSN=name.xxx,DISP=(MOD,DELETE), //UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(TRK,(0)) Yes. It failed because the dataset had a future expiry date. That was basically the content of the original post. It also, like every JCL job, contains something other than pure JCL, in this case the IEFBR14 program. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Deleting UnExpired dataset using JCL
Have you tried : //DEL EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01 //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSTSIN DD * DEL 'V110.TGBA.TESTDEL' PURGE There was an even simpler one with IKJEFT1A, and a PARM=DEL dsn PURGE. It has come down to: What is 'pure' JCL? To me, anything that goes through an Internal Reader is PURE! - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: File Transfer Issue
I've never had much luck FTP'ing certificates. I open them in Notepad and copy/paste into a TN3270 TSO session. Even then, I recall having to rename them to TXT to make Windows display them properly. By the way, the REST is the RESTART command, and that just means that checkpoint/restart is not available in this session. It looks like the transfer was successful. Perhaps Windows garbled the certificate. HTH and good luck. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Matt Dazzo Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 2:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: File Transfer Issue I am transferring a certificate that is in ascii armored format from my desktop to the mainframe using wsftp pro. For some reason only part of the cert is transferred. Below is the ftp log, in the log is an 504 error which is means 'Command not implemented for that parameter.' Can some one explain what that means and how can I get around it. Thanks Matt NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 11:42:29 -0800, Edward Jaffe wrote: Hmmm. I'm playing with it now and it looks pretty good (other than I can't figure out how to get a 90x142 display like I'm accustomed to.) Wow! Thanks, Ed. I've been using 62x142 for a while. Thought that 62 lines was all ISPF would support. I just tried 90x142 and I think I'm hooked already. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What do you call...
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 14:40:40 -0600, Patrick O'Keefe wrote: I have to agree, except that instead of Sysprogs I call them MVS folks... I like the way Skip Robinson's. Electric Dragon Team Paddler. At least that's the way he signs his emails here. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What do you call...
On 24 Feb 2009 11:53:43 -0800, mark.zel...@zurichna.com (Mark Zelden) wrote: On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:27:12 +, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: Use of the title 'engineer' may or may not involve legal or regulatory issues. I know it does in Canada. I believe it does in the US. When I was employed by EDS, I was a Systems Engineer. I believe that term was invented so that it would not be obvious to customers where to fit me into their pre-conceived hierarchy.That kind of obfuscation is useful when working in someone else's shop. On the other hand, a while back (decades?) there were a bunch of promotions in the Colorado State Patrol, as they changed their titles to match what other states had for similar positions.When you have a title which means something else to someone you are working with, expectations match that title. Even within a company, a title can pigeon hole an employee. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What do you call...
On 24 Feb 2009 12:05:16 -0800, eamacn...@yahoo.ca (Ted MacNEIL) wrote: I stand, or sit, corrected. I was going by what a few P. Eng's told me, including my brother who is a Computer Engineer. Also, just because it is a regulatory issue, doesn't mean the title is applied appropriately. 20 years ago, I held the title Senior Systems Engineer, which was after the P. Eng's in Canada complained about the bestowing of the title. I mentioned it to HR, and they told me to stop worrying. And places with such regulations generally exempt the person who drives a train from changing his title from engineer. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3270 emulator cost
I like the way Vista looks, but see nothing about SSL/TLS support. On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Pinnacle pinnc...@rochester.rr.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 2:02 PM Subject: Re: 3270 emulator cost Schwarz, Barry A wrote: Does anyone have any experience with this Host Access Client Package? Are the fees comparable in other countries? Do other packages (Extra, Rumba, etc) charge annual fees? EVERYONE with a reasonably current copy of PCOMM has experience with this package. It's just PCOMM, packaged with Host on Demand. (Read about it on IBM's web site.) I agree, the price is ridiculous. But, you should be able to buy just one copy, deploy HOD on Linux, WIndows, or z/OS, and get 95% of PCOMM facilities for almost free. I must take issue with my good friend Edward Jaffe over his recommendation of HOD. The HOD installs I've used are just abysmal. No keyboard mapping, bad highlighting and 3270 extended stream support, screwy fonts, no IND$FILE support, just to name a few. I recommend Tom Brennan's Vista. At $30 a seat for a perpetual license, you can't get a better TN3270 emulator. Not only is it cheap, it's way better than PCOMM, Extra, RUMBA, etc. Check it out at www.tombrennansoftware.com. Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: UnixSS and C
I contend that in Windoze Linux world, maybe most other operating systems, there is at least one free C compiler readily available. When I found that we did not have any C compiler, because of cost, I was very sadly surprised. All coding is HLASM, as we do, of course, have an assembler. To have a ported version of Unix with no C compiler seems absurd to me. Using USS for TCP/IP, FTP, SSL etc. I have hopes for PERL still. Were there a C compiler readily available, how much more friendly would z/OS, UnixSS in z/OS, appear to newcomers? Microsoft has always charged an arm leg for their C compilers, still you can find a free C compiler for Windoze quite easily. -- Kevin -- PREV: Do folks care about USS? That is, do most z/OS shops actually use USS for anything beyond the things they're forced to (TCP/IP stuff, for example)? ... The related question is: Do folks use C on z/OS much? ... Thanks. -- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: UnixSS and C
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 13:55:35 -0800, O'Mara, Kevin, ITD kevin.om...@acgov.org wrote: I contend that in Windoze Linux world, maybe most other operating systems, there is at least one free C compiler readily available. When I found that we did not have any C compiler, because of cost, I was very sadly surprised. All coding is HLASM, as we do, of course, have an assembler. To have a ported version of Unix with no C compiler seems absurd to me. Using USS for TCP/IP, FTP, SSL etc. I have hopes for PERL still. Were there a C compiler readily available, how much more friendly would z/OS, UnixSS in z/OS, appear to newcomers? Microsoft has always charged an arm leg for their C compilers, still you can find a free C compiler for Windoze quite easily. -- Kevin There is a GCC port for z/OS on Sourceforge at http://sourceforge.net/projects/gccmvs/ -- John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Moving datasets with DFDSS COPY
I need to move some datasets from one storage group to another. These were initially assigned to the current group incorrectly based on a particular DATACLAS. I have changed the ACS routines so that future datasets will go to the correct storage group. I was thinking that I could then just use DFDSS COPY to move the existing ones. This does not work as it appears that the DATACLAS variable is not available to the DFDSS COPY function (based on reading the Storage Admin Guide). Is the only way to do this going to be to use the BYPASSACS keyword and specify the STORCLAS and STOGROUP keywords? If so will the DATACLAS remain the same as it currently is? Thanks in advance for any help. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3270 emulator cost
On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 16:53 -0500, Mark Pace wrote: I like the way Vista looks, but see nothing about SSL/TLS support. Tom's had SLL v3 for ages - on the latest/current version. Go download it, and use your current license key. What a deal. Not obvious where it is - well, at least I missed it. Tom politely pointed out my lack of perception. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3270 emulator cost
- Original Message - From: Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 4:56 PM Subject: Re: 3270 emulator cost I like the way Vista looks, but see nothing about SSL/TLS support. Tom added SSL support in V1.26. Works great! Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3270 emulator cost
Let's make that SSL Tom's had SLL v3 for ages ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What do you call...
On 2/24/2009 at 2:51 PM, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com wrote: -snip- It must not in the U.S. Almost everyone in tech or operations IT here has that title. There's nothing in Federal law about this, but there is in some states. Texas, for example. Which, ironically, being the home of EDS meant that at some point, all the job titles had to change for people that weren't licensed engineers. Systems programmers, for example, went from Software Systems Engineers (really descriptive, eh?) to Infrastructure Specialists. Much better, don't you think? Mark Post -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: new ftp userid
Unless you also set the interval to NOINTERVAL this is only a temporary fix. The people using the FTP clients will still need to change the password periodically as Hal noted. -Original Message- From: David Hanson Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 11:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: new ftp userid Thanks Hal. I reset the password and specified no to expired. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)
Thanks to Ed's encouragement, I've switched my sessions to 62x160 and am very happy with the result. My screen size choices are limited to those supported by TPX, and 62x160 was the largest that TPX could handle (with one fix which was published about a year ago) - TPX basically only handles the standard mod-2,3,4,5 and the 3290 panel sizes 62x80, 31x160, and my favorite, 62x160. Brian On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 15:28:13 -0600, Tom Marchant wrote: On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 11:42:29 -0800, Edward Jaffe wrote: Hmmm. I'm playing with it now and it looks pretty good (other than I can't figure out how to get a 90x142 display like I'm accustomed to.) Wow! Thanks, Ed. I've been using 62x142 for a while. Thought that 62 lines was all ISPF would support. I just tried 90x142 and I think I'm hooked already. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3270 emulator cost
I am not sure whether I have found any emulation software cheaper than mochasoft (not including x3270 on Linux or other flavors of Unix). Its $250 enterprise licence and maintenance is free of cost and includes upgrades. Support turnaround time is very quick as well when bugs found. http://www.mochasoft.dk/ Natarajan NOTICE OF CONFIDENTIALITY The information contained in this communication, including but not limited to any accompanying document(s) and/or attachment(s), is privileged and confidential and is intended solely for the above-named individual(s). If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that any distribution, copying, disclosure, and/or use of the information contained herein is strictly prohibited. If you received this communication in error, please destroy all copies of the communication, whether in electronic or hard copy format, and immediately contact the Security Office at EDFUND at (916) 526-7539 or securityoff...@edfund.org. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: File Transfer Issue
Thanks Hal, worked like a charm. Hal Merritt hmerr...@jackhenry.com 2/24/2009 4:16 PM I've never had much luck FTP'ing certificates. I open them in Notepad and copy/paste into a TN3270 TSO session. Even then, I recall having to rename them to TXT to make Windows display them properly. By the way, the REST is the RESTART command, and that just means that checkpoint/restart is not available in this session. It looks like the transfer was successful. Perhaps Windows garbled the certificate. HTH and good luck. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Matt Dazzo Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 2:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: File Transfer Issue I am transferring a certificate that is in ascii armored format from my desktop to the mainframe using wsftp pro. For some reason only part of the cert is transferred. Below is the ftp log, in the log is an 504 error which is means 'Command not implemented for that parameter.' Can some one explain what that means and how can I get around it. Thanks Matt NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What do you call...
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Hal Merritt Use of the title 'engineer' may or may not involve legal or regulatory issues. I believe this may vary from state to state in the US. Correct. I believe it was Nevada that first prohibited titling anyone an Engineer who was not a registered Professional Engineer. How long before the Architects rise up: :-) -jc- Technical Architect II -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)
Brian Peterson wrote: Thanks to Ed's encouragement, I've switched my sessions to 62x160 and am very happy with the result. My screen size choices are limited to those supported by TPX, and 62x160 was the largest that TPX could handle (with one fix which was published about a year ago) - TPX basically only handles the standard mod-2,3,4,5 and the 3290 panel sizes 62x80, 31x160, and my favorite, 62x160. Glad to hear I was inspirational. 8-) Just out of curiosity, what do you normally see in columns 143 through 160? Is it mostly just a lot of black (background)? Or do some products/displays you use actually put something useful there? -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What do you call...
Technical Architect II I was a Senior Technical Architect at my last job. Level 12 out of 14. The only positions higher (before VP) were director senior director. So, what do you call... - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What do you call...
MY title before Boeing (when I worked for a bank) was Assistant Vice President and before that I was a Senior Operating System Software Officer. They gave me the AVP title so I wouln't be part of a union. No extra pay, just the good-feeling title. BFD. George Fogg -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 3:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: What do you call... Technical Architect II I was a Senior Technical Architect at my last job. Level 12 out of 14. The only positions higher (before VP) were director senior director. So, what do you call... - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: UnixSS and C
Perl is available as part of Ported Tools. IBM Ported Tools for z/OS, 5655-M23 01.01.03 IBM Ported Tools: Perl z/OS MVST100HPRL110IBM Ported Tools for z/OS - Perl This from my SMP installed products report. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of O'Mara, Kevin, ITD Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 15:56 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: UnixSS and C I contend that in Windoze Linux world, maybe most other operating systems, there is at least one free C compiler readily available. When I found that we did not have any C compiler, because of cost, I was very sadly surprised. All coding is HLASM, as we do, of course, have an assembler. To have a ported version of Unix with no C compiler seems absurd to me. Using USS for TCP/IP, FTP, SSL etc. I have hopes for PERL still. Were there a C compiler readily available, how much more friendly would z/OS, UnixSS in z/OS, appear to newcomers? Microsoft has always charged an arm leg for their C compilers, still you can find a free C compiler for Windoze quite easily. -- Kevin -- PREV: Do folks care about USS? That is, do most z/OS shops actually use USS for anything beyond the things they're forced to (TCP/IP stuff, for example)? ... The related question is: Do folks use C on z/OS much? ... Thanks. -- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
