Re: Time Change (Sync)
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UNABLE TO DELETE ML2 DSN
Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to delete an ISPF prof dsn. The dsn is a MIGRAT2. I am at a DR site, and in this partition HSM is not mounted (client request). I have tried several things, DEL NSCR being one of them. However I have been unsuccessful so far. Could someone suggest how I can delete this catalog entry? Here is the error message: ARC1010I USER REQUEST FOR A MIGRATED DATA SET FAILED. ARC1001I ZAWXPWG.ISPF.ISPPROF RECALL FAILED, RC=0074, REAS=0012 ARC1174I DATASET/VOLUME RECOVER/RECALL/DELETE FAILED - THE FUNCTION IS HELD IDC3014I CATALOG ERROR+ IDC0551I ** ENTRY ZAWXPWG.ISPF.ISPPROF NOT DELETED IDC0014I LASTCC=8 IDC3007I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 38 Thanks in advance. __ Instant Messaging, free SMS, sharing photos and more... Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger at http://ca.beta.messenger.yahoo.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: UNABLE TO DELETE ML2 DSN
Try DELETE ZAWXPWG.ISPF.ISPPROF NVR -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of esmie moo Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: UNABLE TO DELETE ML2 DSN Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to delete an ISPF prof dsn. The dsn is a MIGRAT2. I am at a DR site, and in this partition HSM is not mounted (client request). I have tried several things, DEL NSCR being one of them. However I have been unsuccessful so far. Could someone suggest how I can delete this catalog entry? Here is the error message: ARC1010I USER REQUEST FOR A MIGRATED DATA SET FAILED. ARC1001I ZAWXPWG.ISPF.ISPPROF RECALL FAILED, RC=0074, REAS=0012 ARC1174I DATASET/VOLUME RECOVER/RECALL/DELETE FAILED - THE FUNCTION IS HELD IDC3014I CATALOG ERROR+ IDC0551I ** ENTRY ZAWXPWG.ISPF.ISPPROF NOT DELETED IDC0014I LASTCC=8 IDC3007I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 38 Thanks in advance. __ Instant Messaging, free SMS, sharing photos and more... Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger at http://ca.beta.messenger.yahoo.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: UNABLE TO DELETE ML2 DSN
Have you tried just using HDELETE? Michael Spencer BMC Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of esmie moo Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: UNABLE TO DELETE ML2 DSN Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to delete an ISPF prof dsn. The dsn is a MIGRAT2. I am at a DR site, and in this partition HSM is not mounted (client request). I have tried several things, DEL NSCR being one of them. However I have been unsuccessful so far. Could someone suggest how I can delete this catalog entry? Here is the error message: ARC1010I USER REQUEST FOR A MIGRATED DATA SET FAILED. ARC1001I ZAWXPWG.ISPF.ISPPROF RECALL FAILED, RC=0074, REAS=0012 ARC1174I DATASET/VOLUME RECOVER/RECALL/DELETE FAILED - THE FUNCTION IS HELD IDC3014I CATALOG ERROR+ IDC0551I ** ENTRY ZAWXPWG.ISPF.ISPPROF NOT DELETED IDC0014I LASTCC=8 IDC3007I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 38 Thanks in advance. __ Instant Messaging, free SMS, sharing photos and more... Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger at http://ca.beta.messenger.yahoo.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
grs
Over the weekend we upgraded to zos 1.9. Last night during batch, we had a job abend, and now grs holds The dataset. Is there anyway to release the exclusive? Job obviously will not executed because of the exclusive. Thank you for your help. D GRS,RES=(SYSDSN,ADS*) ISG343I 07.25.14 GRS STATUS 935 S=SYSTEMS SYSDSN ADS.G0002156.D090323.INVC.P1652999.S.PDF SYSNAMEJOBNAME ASID TCBADDR EXC/SHRSTATUS GPSYS01 PRDGIWEB 0038 00AFF358 EXCLUSIVEOWN S=SYSTEMS SYSDSN ADS.G0003300.D090323.NOTC.P6288019.S.PDF SYSNAMEJOBNAME ASID TCBADDR EXC/SHRSTATUS GPSYS01 PRDGCWEB 0037 00AFF358 EXCLUSIVEOWN Bill Carroll DISCLAIMER: The information contained in this message may be privileged or confidential and is protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IEHDASDR documentation
Was VIO around when IEHDASDR was in use? I remember using IEHDASDR under OS/MVT in the early 1970s. I remember VIO support under the first release of MVS that I had to play with in 1977. Bill Fairchild Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: UNABLE TO DELETE ML2 DSN
Mike, HSM functions are not enabled. I tried that before. When I do a HSEND Q AC W, it shows that there is a request waiting: ARC0168I WAITING MWES: MIGRATE=, RECALL=, DELETE=0001, ARC0168I (CONT.) BACKUP=, RECOVER=, COMMAND=, ARC0168I (CONT.) ABACKUP=, ARECOVER=, FRBACKUP=, ARC0168I (CONT.) FRRECOV=, TOTAL=0001 ARC0101I QUERY WAITING COMMAND COMPLETED ON HOST=1 *** I do not know how to get the DELETE to run. --- On Wed, 3/25/09, Spencer, Mike mike_spen...@bmc.com wrote: From: Spencer, Mike mike_spen...@bmc.com Subject: Re: UNABLE TO DELETE ML2 DSN To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Received: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 12:23 AM Have you tried just using HDELETE? Michael Spencer BMC Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of esmie moo Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: UNABLE TO DELETE ML2 DSN Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to delete an ISPF prof dsn. The dsn is a MIGRAT2. I am at a DR site, and in this partition HSM is not mounted (client request). I have tried several things, DEL NSCR being one of them. However I have been unsuccessful so far. Could someone suggest how I can delete this catalog entry? Here is the error message: ARC1010I USER REQUEST FOR A MIGRATED DATA SET FAILED. ARC1001I ZAWXPWG.ISPF.ISPPROF RECALL FAILED, RC=0074, REAS=0012 ARC1174I DATASET/VOLUME RECOVER/RECALL/DELETE FAILED - THE FUNCTION IS HELD IDC3014I CATALOG ERROR+ IDC0551I ** ENTRY ZAWXPWG.ISPF.ISPPROF NOT DELETED IDC0014I LASTCC=8 IDC3007I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 38 Thanks in advance. __ Instant Messaging, free SMS, sharing photos and more... Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger at http://ca.beta.messenger.yahoo.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html __ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: UNABLE TO DELETE ML2 DSN
I tried that earlier but it is prompting me for a FILE keyword. I checked a jcl sample of this command --- On Wed, 3/25/09, Richards, Robert B. robert.richa...@opm.gov wrote: From: Richards, Robert B. robert.richa...@opm.gov Subject: Re: UNABLE TO DELETE ML2 DSN To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Received: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 12:23 AM Try DELETE ZAWXPWG.ISPF.ISPPROF NVR -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of esmie moo Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: UNABLE TO DELETE ML2 DSN Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to delete an ISPF prof dsn. The dsn is a MIGRAT2. I am at a DR site, and in this partition HSM is not mounted (client request). I have tried several things, DEL NSCR being one of them. However I have been unsuccessful so far. Could someone suggest how I can delete this catalog entry? Here is the error message: ARC1010I USER REQUEST FOR A MIGRATED DATA SET FAILED. ARC1001I ZAWXPWG.ISPF.ISPPROF RECALL FAILED, RC=0074, REAS=0012 ARC1174I DATASET/VOLUME RECOVER/RECALL/DELETE FAILED - THE FUNCTION IS HELD IDC3014I CATALOG ERROR+ IDC0551I ** ENTRY ZAWXPWG.ISPF.ISPPROF NOT DELETED IDC0014I LASTCC=8 IDC3007I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 38 Thanks in advance. __ Instant Messaging, free SMS, sharing photos and more... Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger at http://ca.beta.messenger.yahoo.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html __ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: UNABLE TO DELETE ML2 DSN
I tried that earlier but it is prompting me for a FILE keyword. I checked a jcl sample of this command and --- On Wed, 3/25/09, Richards, Robert B. robert.richa...@opm.gov wrote: From: Richards, Robert B. robert.richa...@opm.gov Subject: Re: UNABLE TO DELETE ML2 DSN To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Received: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 12:23 AM Try DELETE ZAWXPWG.ISPF.ISPPROF NVR -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of esmie moo Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: UNABLE TO DELETE ML2 DSN Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to delete an ISPF prof dsn. The dsn is a MIGRAT2. I am at a DR site, and in this partition HSM is not mounted (client request). I have tried several things, DEL NSCR being one of them. However I have been unsuccessful so far. Could someone suggest how I can delete this catalog entry? Here is the error message: ARC1010I USER REQUEST FOR A MIGRATED DATA SET FAILED. ARC1001I ZAWXPWG.ISPF.ISPPROF RECALL FAILED, RC=0074, REAS=0012 ARC1174I DATASET/VOLUME RECOVER/RECALL/DELETE FAILED - THE FUNCTION IS HELD IDC3014I CATALOG ERROR+ IDC0551I ** ENTRY ZAWXPWG.ISPF.ISPPROF NOT DELETED IDC0014I LASTCC=8 IDC3007I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 38 Thanks in advance. __ Instant Messaging, free SMS, sharing photos and more... Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger at http://ca.beta.messenger.yahoo.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html __ Connect with friends from any web browser - no download required. Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger for the Web BETA at http://ca.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: UNABLE TO DELETE ML2 DSN
I tried that earlier but it is prompting me for a FILE keyword. I checked a jcl sample of this command and it needs a VOL=SER=?? In this case, the dsn is in MIGRAT2 and I am unable to supply a volser. --- On Wed, 3/25/09, Richards, Robert B. robert.richa...@opm.gov wrote: From: Richards, Robert B. robert.richa...@opm.gov Subject: Re: UNABLE TO DELETE ML2 DSN To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Received: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 12:23 AM Try DELETE ZAWXPWG.ISPF.ISPPROF NVR -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of esmie moo Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: UNABLE TO DELETE ML2 DSN Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to delete an ISPF prof dsn. The dsn is a MIGRAT2. I am at a DR site, and in this partition HSM is not mounted (client request). I have tried several things, DEL NSCR being one of them. However I have been unsuccessful so far. Could someone suggest how I can delete this catalog entry? Here is the error message: ARC1010I USER REQUEST FOR A MIGRATED DATA SET FAILED. ARC1001I ZAWXPWG.ISPF.ISPPROF RECALL FAILED, RC=0074, REAS=0012 ARC1174I DATASET/VOLUME RECOVER/RECALL/DELETE FAILED - THE FUNCTION IS HELD IDC3014I CATALOG ERROR+ IDC0551I ** ENTRY ZAWXPWG.ISPF.ISPPROF NOT DELETED IDC0014I LASTCC=8 IDC3007I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 38 Thanks in advance. __ Instant Messaging, free SMS, sharing photos and more... Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger at http://ca.beta.messenger.yahoo.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html __ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: UNABLE TO DELETE ML2 DSN
On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 04:12 -0700, esmie moo wrote: Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to delete an ISPF prof dsn. The dsn is a MIGRAT2. I am at a DR site, and in this partition HSM is not mounted (client request). I have tried several things, DEL NSCR being one of them. However I have been unsuccessful so far. Could someone suggest how I can delete this catalog entry? Here is the error message: You'll need to define a new group called ARCCATGP, get yourself connected to it, and logon (yes, *logon*) with that group specified. Just being connected to the group is insufficient. Then the DEL NSCR will work. Ask me how I know ... We got *ALL* datasets required for anybody (and I mean anybody) to logon for DR moved to prod pools and marked non migratable. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: UNABLE TO DELETE ML2 DSN
The userid is active. I am unable to cancel the outstanding HSM request because all recalls/migrates are held. --- On Wed, 3/25/09, Daniel McLaughlin daniel_mclaugh...@us.crawco.com wrote: From: Daniel McLaughlin daniel_mclaugh...@us.crawco.com Subject: Re: UNABLE TO DELETE ML2 DSN To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Received: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 12:58 AM Is that particular user there? Clone him/her a new ID with same permissions, add a suffix character. Answer cancel to the outstanding HSM request. If it's DR, be creative and take copious notes. You may want to ask the SMS guru to avoid migrating ISPF profile datasets. Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Information Communications Technology Crawford Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 phone: 770-621-3256 fax: 770-621-3237 cell: 770-666-7969 email: daniel_mclaugh...@us.crawco.com web: www.crawfordandcompany.com Consider the environment before printing this message. This transmission is intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This communication may contain information that is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise exempt from disclosure. If you are not the named addressee, you are NOT authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this communication, its attachments or any part of them. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this communication from all computers. This communication does not form any contractual obligation on behalf of the sender, the sender's employer, or the employer's parent company, affiliates or subsidiaries. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html __ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)
200 happened to be the maximum that the tn3270 emulator I use would support. Mark T. Regan, K8MTR CTO1 USNR-Retired (1969-1991) - Original Message From: Tom Marchant m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:19:41 PM Subject: Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost) On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:09:07 -0700, Mark T. Regan wrote: Tom, Are you doing this with ISPF on v1.10 or an earlier version of z/OS? I ran into the problem with 1.10 after using 65x200 just fine on 1.9. When I started testing with v1.10, it stopped working. When I backed the screen size down to 65x160, it worked okay with v.10. 1.10. I tried 65x200 and ended up with 24x80. Same with 65x162. It seems ISPF doesn't like anything greater than 160. I also tried it on a z/OS 1.9 system and got the same result. Out of curiosity, why 200? Is there something that wide that you look at? -- Tom Marchant - Original Message From: Tom Marchant m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 11:19:29 AM Subject: Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost) FWIW, I have been happily using 90x142 since you mentioned it. I got to wondering how big I could go, so I tried 120x160 and got: ISPI001 Invalid screen size. The width cannot exceed 160 and the depth cannot exceed 62 I have determined that 102x160 works and 103x160 does not. 115x142 works and 116x142 does not. 102x160 is 16,320 bytes. 115x142 is 16,330 bytes. It seems that ISPF allows 16K (16384 bytes) for the screen buffer. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: UNABLE TO DELETE ML2 DSN
Is that particular user there? Clone him/her a new ID with same permissions, add a suffix character. Answer cancel to the outstanding HSM request. If it's DR, be creative and take copious notes. You may want to ask the SMS guru to avoid migrating ISPF profile datasets. Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Information Communications Technology Crawford Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 phone: 770-621-3256 fax: 770-621-3237 cell: 770-666-7969 email: daniel_mclaugh...@us.crawco.com web: www.crawfordandcompany.com Consider the environment before printing this message. This transmission is intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This communication may contain information that is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise exempt from disclosure. If you are not the named addressee, you are NOT authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this communication, its attachments or any part of them. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this communication from all computers. This communication does not form any contractual obligation on behalf of the sender, the sender's employer, or the employer's parent company, affiliates or subsidiaries. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: UNABLE TO DELETE ML2 DSN
How do you know, Shane? LOL Just kidding. I had forgotten about that RACF group and it isn't defined at this shop either (for now...will check into this shortly). -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shane Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 8:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: UNABLE TO DELETE ML2 DSN On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 04:12 -0700, esmie moo wrote: Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to delete an ISPF prof dsn. The dsn is a MIGRAT2. I am at a DR site, and in this partition HSM is not mounted (client request). I have tried several things, DEL NSCR being one of them. However I have been unsuccessful so far. Could someone suggest how I can delete this catalog entry? Here is the error message: You'll need to define a new group called ARCCATGP, get yourself connected to it, and logon (yes, *logon*) with that group specified. Just being connected to the group is insufficient. Then the DEL NSCR will work. Ask me how I know ... We got *ALL* datasets required for anybody (and I mean anybody) to logon for DR moved to prod pools and marked non migratable. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: grs
Bill Is job PRDGIWEB still active in the system GPSYS01? That is what is holding the file. If it is, then you need to possibly cycle that job. If this is the job that abended, then it is possible that you may have to IPL to clean this up. Or contact IBM and see if they can provide a solution. Is this a unix file? Perhaps there is still a process running holding the file in BPX. See if D OMVS,F can help. If there is a process, then terminate that ID. Lizette Over the weekend we upgraded to zos 1.9. Last night during batch, we had a job abend, and now grs holds The dataset. Is there anyway to release the exclusive? Job obviously will not executed because of the exclusive. Thank you for your help. D GRS,RES=(SYSDSN,ADS*) ISG343I 07.25.14 GRS STATUS 935 S=SYSTEMS SYSDSN ADS.G0002156.D090323.INVC.P1652999.S.PDF SYSNAMEJOBNAME ASID TCBADDR EXC/SHRSTATUS GPSYS01 PRDGIWEB 0038 00AFF358 EXCLUSIVEOWN S=SYSTEMS SYSDSN ADS.G0003300.D090323.NOTC.P6288019.S.PDF SYSNAMEJOBNAME ASID TCBADDR EXC/SHRSTATUS GPSYS01 PRDGCWEB 0037 00AFF358 EXCLUSIVEOWN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Old discussion about Windows running on a mainframe ( I brought up)
Platform Solutions, Inc. had this technology and much more. Their technology is now IBM's. Many people accuse IBM of acquiring PSI to stifle competition, but this is a great disservice to the engineers at PSI, particularly former Amdahl engineers, who are now bound to silence by NDAs. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/23/technology/companies/23mainframe.html?_r=3pagewanted=2ref=technologyadxnnlx=1237816804-Ls%2021S/ySzdFWiPCcF03qQ IBM may see the virtualization of Windows onto z architecture as strategic; both as servers and workstations and its acquisition of PSI reflects this. From what little Mantissa has disclosed, their approach, IMHO, is inherently flawed. Their SHARE presentation seemed to be little more than an obfuscated discourse on virtualization in general. Even if their approach works, it would have been better, architecturally, to emulate an Itanium for Windows hosting because of the nature of the Itanium’s instruction parallelism. A more sensible approach would be to look at creating a Windows HAL (hardware abstraction layer), or something conceptually similar, that runs on z/Series. Historically, this is how Windows has been made to run on different machine architectures. Of course, cooperative development between IBM and Microsoft would be necessary. Another possibility is to exploit the Infiniband feature of the z/10. This feature is profound in terms of 360-z/series evolution, but has been largely ignored, so far. Infiniband attached external hardware products that expose x86 architecture processors, from Intel or IBM itself (or maybe even Intel Larrabee), is an ideal way to run Windows on IBM mainframes. In the interest of disclosure, I have worked for both IBM and PSI, but the opinions I express here are complete conjecture. Harry harry_w...@hotmail.com Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:08:01 -0700 From: ps2...@yahoo.com Subject: Old discussion about Windows running on a mainframe ( I brought up) To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Will Big Blue mainframes run Windows? Track this topic Print story Post comment z/VMs get Microsoft rumor By Timothy Prickett Morgan • Get more from this author Posted in Servers, 23rd March 2009 22:34 GMT Whitepaper download - Eight CRM essentials An obscure mainframe software company called Mantissa Corporation bragged last summer on the IBM VM listserv - which is dedicated to virtual mainframe environments - that it was creating a product called z/VOS that would allow slices of a Windows operating system to run atop z/VM, the hypervisor-as-operating system for IBM mainframes. The product was due in the first quarter of this year, and the story of its impending release has been making the rounds. According to a report in NetworkWorld, Mantissa's z/VOS, presumably short for Virtual Operating System, is a layer of software for VM that allows desktop and server Windows operating systems to run in emulated mode atop z/VM. Mantissa - which is based in Birmingham, Alabama, and which is a supplier of report distribution and other tools for mainframes - talked about the z/VOS product at the SHARE mainframe user conference in early March in Austin, Texas. But that was not the same thing as a product launch. We've tried to reach the company for several days, but Mantissa has yet to respond. While IBM and the Linux community for mainframes centered around Marist College in New York have worked to get official mainframe ports done for Linux - Red Hat and Novell officially support mainframes, if you can write a big enough check to get support - there is no native Windows port to IBM mainframes as far as I know. So, the real curiosity is how Mantissa is supporting Windows XP or Vista atop z/VM partitions. According to the company's development blog, z/VOS includes a translation engine that converts native x86 code to its System z equivalent. See how easy that was? As it translates equivalent results - not creating equivalent machine code, mind you - the instruction that is created by z/VOS is stored in memory so it can be accessed the next time the operating system function inside Windows running on the mainframe is asked for again. Since Gary Dennis, Mantissa's chief executive officer and founder - and other we've called - are not answering their phones, it is a little hard to take the company seriously. But if it can indeed deliver a layer of abstraction software atop z/VM that lets Windows desktops and servers run on mainframe iron, the company should probably think about getting someone to answer the phones and maybe a salesperson or two to try to take some orders. If the x86 translation overhead is not too high, this could be a very interesting development - and one that Big Blue would seem pretty keen on supporting, not quashing. ® http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03/23/mantissa_windows_on_mainframes/ AT least these people
Re: Time Change (Sync)
Bruce Hewson wrote: Hi Steve, the very modern island of Singapore. Quite the tropical island paradise, if you enjoy technology while sitting on the beach sipping amber fluid. Ah, yes. Very nice. I taught a couple of DB2 courses for DBS many years ago. Had a grand time. Got any training needs there these days? On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 09:21:06 -0600, Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com wrote: Bruce Hewson wrote: [snip] Bruce Hewson Resident, Tropical Island Paradise. So, I have to ask: where is that? Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: grs
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 07:38:30 -0400, Carroll, William carro...@grangeinsurance.com wrote: . Is there anyway to release the exclusive? Job obviously will not executed because of the exclusive. I would drain the init that the job ran in and see if that released the enqueue. Doug -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: UNABLE TO DELETE ML2 DSN
I think I may have stumbled on to something. Would anybody know which RELEASE command I can use in order to allow the DELETE function to run in HSM. --- On Wed, 3/25/09, Spencer, Mike mike_spen...@bmc.com wrote: From: Spencer, Mike mike_spen...@bmc.com Subject: Re: UNABLE TO DELETE ML2 DSN To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Received: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 12:23 AM Have you tried just using HDELETE? Michael Spencer BMC Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of esmie moo Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: UNABLE TO DELETE ML2 DSN Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to delete an ISPF prof dsn. The dsn is a MIGRAT2. I am at a DR site, and in this partition HSM is not mounted (client request). I have tried several things, DEL NSCR being one of them. However I have been unsuccessful so far. Could someone suggest how I can delete this catalog entry? Here is the error message: ARC1010I USER REQUEST FOR A MIGRATED DATA SET FAILED. ARC1001I ZAWXPWG.ISPF.ISPPROF RECALL FAILED, RC=0074, REAS=0012 ARC1174I DATASET/VOLUME RECOVER/RECALL/DELETE FAILED - THE FUNCTION IS HELD IDC3014I CATALOG ERROR+ IDC0551I ** ENTRY ZAWXPWG.ISPF.ISPPROF NOT DELETED IDC0014I LASTCC=8 IDC3007I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 38 Thanks in advance. __ Instant Messaging, free SMS, sharing photos and more... Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger at http://ca.beta.messenger.yahoo.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html __ Instant Messaging, free SMS, sharing photos and more... Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger at http://ca.beta.messenger.yahoo.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: UNABLE TO DELETE ML2 DSN
With what little HSM knowledge I have, I might try F DFHSM,Release Delete Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Information Communications Technology Crawford Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 phone: 770-621-3256 fax: 770-621-3237 cell: 770-666-7969 email: daniel_mclaugh...@us.crawco.com web: www.crawfordandcompany.com esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 03/24/2009 08:45 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu cc Subject Re: UNABLE TO DELETE ML2 DSN -- Information from the mail header --- Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Poster: esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca Subject: Re: UNABLE TO DELETE ML2 DSN --- I think I may have stumbled on to something.=A0 Would anybody know which RE= LEASE command I can use in order to allow the DELETE=A0function to run in H= SM. --- On Wed, 3/25/09, Spencer, Mike mike_spen...@bmc.com wrote: From: Spencer, Mike mike_spen...@bmc.com Subject: Re: UNABLE TO DELETE ML2 DSN To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Received: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 12:23 AM Have you tried just using HDELETE?=A0=A0=A0 Michael Spencer BMC Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf= Of esmie moo Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: UNABLE TO DELETE ML2 DSN Good Morning Gentle Readers, =A0 I am trying to delete an ISPF prof dsn.=A0 The dsn is a MIGRAT2.=A0 I am at= a DR site, and in this partition HSM is not mounted (client request).=A0 I= have tried several things, DEL NSCR being one of them.=A0 However I have b= een unsuccessful so far.=A0 Could someone suggest how I can delete this cat= alog entry?=A0 Here is the error message: =A0 ARC1010I USER REQUEST FOR A MIGRATED DATA SET FAILED.=20 ARC1001I ZAWXPWG.ISPF.ISPPROF RECALL FAILED, RC=3D0074, REAS=3D0012 ARC1174= I DATASET/VOLUME RECOVER/RECALL/DELETE FAILED - THE FUNCTION IS HELD IDC301= 4I CATALOG ERROR+ IDC0551I ** ENTRY ZAWXPWG.ISPF.ISPPROF NOT DELETED IDC001= 4I LASTCC=3D8 IDC3007I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 38=20 =A0 Thanks in advance. =A0 =A0 =A0 ___= ___ Instant Messaging, free SMS, sharing photos and more... Try the new Yahoo! = Canada Messenger at http://ca.beta.messenger.yahoo.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email = to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the arch= ives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html =0A=0A=0A = __=0AInstant Messaging, free SMS, sharing photos and more... Try the ne= w Yahoo! Canada Messenger at http://ca.beta.messenger.yahoo.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Consider the environment before printing this message. This transmission is intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This communication may contain information that is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise exempt from disclosure. If you are not the named addressee, you are NOT authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this communication, its attachments or any part of them. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this communication from all computers. This communication does not form any contractual obligation on behalf of the sender, the sender's employer, or the employer's parent company, affiliates or subsidiaries. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Question on creating a maint pack
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:03:52 -0600, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote: ---snip- I strongly recommend that you rewrite the IPLTXT from the SAMPLIB after all maintenance is applied, just on the very remote chance that something changes. After all, it only takes a minute to be sure. :-) unsnip-- Whenever the HOLDDATA says to (rarely), we do so on our maintenance volume #1. Same for SADump, with IPLTEXT, on maintenance volume #2. DSS or FDR physical copies with CPYVOLID=NO ensures these updates get rolled out with the maintenance. No brainer. Then there's the hundreds of ACTION holds to review (and MSGSKELs)... Regards, Art Gutowski Ford Motor Company -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: UNABLE TO DELETE ML2 DSN
I fixed the problem. I released the RECALL. HSM deleted the dsn and held the RECALL. For some reason there is no separate command to release the DELETE function. Thanks to all who helped with your comments. --- On Wed, 3/25/09, esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca wrote: From: esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca Subject: Re: UNABLE TO DELETE ML2 DSN To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Received: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 1:45 AM I think I may have stumbled on to something. Would anybody know which RELEASE command I can use in order to allow the DELETE function to run in HSM. --- On Wed, 3/25/09, Spencer, Mike mike_spen...@bmc.com wrote: From: Spencer, Mike mike_spen...@bmc.com Subject: Re: UNABLE TO DELETE ML2 DSN To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Received: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 12:23 AM Have you tried just using HDELETE? Michael Spencer BMC Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of esmie moo Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: UNABLE TO DELETE ML2 DSN Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to delete an ISPF prof dsn. The dsn is a MIGRAT2. I am at a DR site, and in this partition HSM is not mounted (client request). I have tried several things, DEL NSCR being one of them. However I have been unsuccessful so far. Could someone suggest how I can delete this catalog entry? Here is the error message: ARC1010I USER REQUEST FOR A MIGRATED DATA SET FAILED. ARC1001I ZAWXPWG.ISPF.ISPPROF RECALL FAILED, RC=0074, REAS=0012 ARC1174I DATASET/VOLUME RECOVER/RECALL/DELETE FAILED - THE FUNCTION IS HELD IDC3014I CATALOG ERROR+ IDC0551I ** ENTRY ZAWXPWG.ISPF.ISPPROF NOT DELETED IDC0014I LASTCC=8 IDC3007I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 38 Thanks in advance. __ Instant Messaging, free SMS, sharing photos and more... Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger at http://ca.beta.messenger.yahoo.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html __ Instant Messaging, free SMS, sharing photos and more... Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger at http://ca.beta.messenger.yahoo.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html __ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
z/OS 1.7 upgrade to 1.10
We currently have z/OS 1.7 with Lifecycle Extension running on two Z10s. We are considering moving to z/OS 1.10 (as opposed to z/OS 1.9). However, we have been told that this is not recommended as there are JES2 spool compatibility issues should we need to back out. Does someone perhaps have experience of converting from z/OS 1.7 to 1.10? Jan Smit office +27 (0)11 729 5380 | fax +27 (0)86 572 0671 | mobile +27 (0)76 901 9836 This e-mail and its contents are subject to the Business Connexion (Pty) Ltd e-mail legal notice available at: http://www.bcx.co.za/disclaimer.htm -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.7 upgrade to 1.10
We moved from OS/390 2.10 to Z/OS 1.4. Our spool fallback was this: We unloaded the spool to tape. We actually had to use this recovery action on one of our tests because we had a last minute gotcha with DB2. Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Information Communications Technology Crawford Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 phone: 770-621-3256 fax: 770-621-3237 cell: 770-666-7969 email: daniel_mclaugh...@us.crawco.com web: www.crawfordandcompany.com Jan Smit - Business Connexion jan.s...@bcx.co.za Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 03/24/2009 08:46 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu cc Subject z/OS 1.7 upgrade to 1.10 -- Information from the mail header --- Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Poster: Jan Smit - Business Connexion jan.s...@bcx.co.za Subject: z/OS 1.7 upgrade to 1.10 --- We currently have z/OS 1.7 with Lifecycle Extension running on two Z10s. We are considering moving to z/OS 1.10 (as opposed to z/OS 1.9). However, we have been told that this is not recommended as there are JES2 spool compatibility issues should we need to back out. Does someone perhaps have experience of converting from z/OS 1.7 to 1.10?=20 =20 =20 =20 Jan Smit =20 office +27 (0)11 729 5380 | fax +27 (0)86 572 0671 | mobile +27 (0)76 901 9836 =20 =20 This e-mail and its contents are subject to the Business Connexion (Pty) = Ltd e-mail legal notice available at: http://www.bcx.co.za/disclaimer.htm -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Consider the environment before printing this message. This transmission is intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This communication may contain information that is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise exempt from disclosure. If you are not the named addressee, you are NOT authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this communication, its attachments or any part of them. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this communication from all computers. This communication does not form any contractual obligation on behalf of the sender, the sender's employer, or the employer's parent company, affiliates or subsidiaries. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
ICETOOL - date subtraction?
I don't see a way to do this, but maybe I'm just missing it. I am writing a
report which read the RACF database unload report. The report basically
shows IDs which have not been used in the last 90 days. This is rather
simple with a statement similar to:
INCLUDE COND=(USBD_LASTJOB_DATE,LE,DATE1(-)-90)
This is replacing an existing report which printed the duration, which would
be something like (if it were possible):
ON (DATE1(-)-USBD_LASTJOB_DATE) HEADING('INACTIVE DAYS')
is there any way, using ICETOOL to subtract a date in -MM-DD, character
format, from today's date with the result being a simple number?
I doubt it, but ...
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Re: FTP timeout problem
Here is a link to a good description of how ftp works http://slacksite.com/other/ftp.html. Where we see most of our timeouts is on the command ports during a long transfer. The command ports do nothing during the transfer on the data ports and can timeout, usually at a firewall. Note that the firewall may be outside your corporate control. Good luck Dennis Roach GHG Corporation Lockheed Martin Mission Services Flight Design and Operations Contract NASA/JSC Address: 2100 Space Park Drive LM-15-4BH Houston, Texas 77058 Mail: P.O. Box 58487 Mail Code H4C Houston, Texas 77258 Phone: Voice: (281)336-5027 Cell: (713)591-1059 Fax:(281)336-5410 E-Mail: dennis.ro...@lmco.com All opinions expressed by me are mine and may not agree with my employer or any person, company, or thing, living or dead, on or near this or any other planet, moon, asteroid, or other spatial object, natural or manufactured, since the beginning of time. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Clark, Kevin Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 7:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: FTP timeout problem Robert, Start a TCP trace on ports 20,21 for the IP address of scftpd.ca.com. If its a firewall issue , there should be a stoppage of traffic during handshaking. Perhaps an unsolicitied RST. Kevin From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Johnston, Robert E Sent: Mon 3/23/2009 4:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: FTP timeout problem Hello Scott and Hal... thanks for your help. I cut/pasted my ftp job below. It is going to an HFS. I talked to our network people and they said it could be a firewall issue, like Hal said. I have other things to work on this week so I'll be on and off this, but I'll let everyone know if/when I get it working and what the problem was. //GETPAX EXEC PGM=FTP,REGION=0M //SYSMDUMP DD SYSOUT=* //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //OUTPUTDD SYSOUT=* //INPUT DD * scftpd.ca.com anonymous blahb...@my.place cd /orders/##/3648561/comp debug flo tim bas binary get 11SP08AW000.pax.Z + '/CA_Download/Package/Common/R11/11SP08AW000.pax.Z' (rep quit Thanks, Robert Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This e-mail message and any attachments transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for the use of its authorized recipient(s). If you are not an intended or authorized recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking any action in reliance on the information contained in this e- mail is prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not authorized to receive it, please immediately notify the sender and delete the original message and all copies of it from your computer. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: UNABLE TO DELETE ML2 DSN
In batch IDCAMS DEL NSCR No special permissions needed. snip Behalf Of esmie moo Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:12 AM Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to delete an ISPF prof dsn. The dsn is a MIGRAT2. I am at a DR site, and in this partition HSM is not mounted (client request). I have tried several things, DEL NSCR being one of them. However I have been unsuccessful so far. Could someone suggest how I can delete this catalog entry? Here is the error message: /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Old discussion about Windows running on a mainframe ( I brought up)
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 7:35 AM, Harry Wahl harry_w...@hotmail.com wrote: Platform Solutions, Inc. had this technology and much more. Their technology is now IBM's. Doesn't PSI does the opposite of what Mantissa claims to be working on? PSI runs z architecture on x86 hardware whereas Mantissa claims to run x86 architecture on z hardware. Combine the two and you could run Windows on z/VM on a x86 emulating a z machine.Sounds snappy :-) BTW: MacOS did this quite successfully when they switched from 68000 to Power architecture. You could run your 68000 binaries and they would be dynamically translated into a cache Power instructions. They did it again when they moved to x86. See: http://knowledgerush.com/kr/encyclopedia/Mac_68K_emulator/ Of course, modern byte-code VMs use dynamic translation (JIT) to translate frequently used byte codes into native machine instructions. Yet, it is still amazing how many people think that Java is still only interpreted. Quoting from an Austin SHARE presentation on PHP: Unlike Java or other interpretive language, PHP’s focus is to use the script to invoke “native” C subroutines that do the actual work at full speed Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ICETOOL - date subtraction?
John McKown wrote:
I don't see a way to do this, but maybe I'm just missing it. I am writing a
report which read the RACF database unload report. The report basically
shows IDs which have not been used in the last 90 days. This is rather simple
with a statement similar to:
INCLUDE COND=(USBD_LASTJOB_DATE,LE,DATE1(-)-90)
This is replacing an existing report which printed the duration, which would
be something like (if it were possible):
ON (DATE1(-)-USBD_LASTJOB_DATE) HEADING('INACTIVE DAYS')
is there any way, using ICETOOL to subtract a date in -MM-DD,
character format, from today's date with the result being a simple number?
I doubt it, but ...
You have already gotten your answers in October 2008! Search the IBM-MAIN
Archives. Search for your thread 'DFSORT date question'.
HTH!
Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht
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Re: UNABLE TO DELETE ML2 DSN
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How to identify the maximum size of VSAM LDS
Folks, I have a requirement to identify what is the maximum size allowed for VSAM LDS dataset. Is there any way to calculate or perform analysis on this. I would appreciate if you share your thoughts on this. Thanks in advance. Regards, Mani The information contained in this transmission may contain privileged and confidential information and is intended only for the use of the person(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient, any review, dissemination, distribution or duplication of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you received this email in error, please contact the sender immediately by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. This email is not intended as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any financial instruments. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ICETOOL - date subtraction?
John McKown wrote on 03/24/2009 06:21:03 AM:
I don't see a way to do this, but maybe I'm just missing it. I am writing
a
report which read the RACF database unload report. The report basically
shows IDs which have not been used in the last 90 days. This is rather
simple with a statement similar to:
INCLUDE COND=(USBD_LASTJOB_DATE,LE,DATE1(-)-90)
This is replacing an existing report which printed the duration, which
would
be something like (if it were possible):
ON (DATE1(-)-USBD_LASTJOB_DATE) HEADING('INACTIVE DAYS')
is there any way, using ICETOOL to subtract a date in -MM-DD,
character
format, from today's date with the result being a simple number?
I doubt it, but ...
DFSORT/ICETOOL doesn't have any built-in function for calculating
n = (Current_date) - (-mm-dd)
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Specialties: FINDREP, WHEN=GROUP, DATASORT, ICETOOL, Symbols, Migration
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Re: Is your installation LNKLSTing datasets in addtion to the system LNKLST?
---snip- If yes, what are kind of datasets are in your CSVLLAXX member? Source, proclib, loadlibs or? ---unsnip--- In my CSVLLAxx I have the main ISPF Panel library and my main production linklib, as well as my CICS transaction library. All are FIXED and we've noticed a significant improvement by inserting these libraries. Please note: presence in CSVLLAxx does NOT automatically imply LINKLIST, but rather, in a short phrase, Directory Caching in Storage. Very big difference. :-) -- Rick -- Remember that if you’re not the lead dog, the view never changes. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ICETOOL - date subtraction?
Elardus Engelbrecht wrote on 03/24/2009 07:10:28 AM: You have already gotten your answers in October 2008! Search the IBM-MAIN Archives. Search for your thread 'DFSORT date question'. That thread was about using relative dates (e.g. date-90 days) which DFSORT does support. This new thread is about subtracting a specific date from the current date (e.g. date-mmdd) which DFSORT does not support. Frank Yaeger - DFSORT Development Team (IBM) - yae...@us.ibm.com Specialties: FINDREP, WHEN=GROUP, DATASORT, ICETOOL, Symbols, Migration = DFSORT/MVS is on the Web at http://www.ibm.com/storage/dfsort/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ICETOOL - date subtraction?
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:16:36 -0700, Frank Yaeger yae...@us.ibm.com wrote: DFSORT/ICETOOL doesn't have any built-in function for calculating n = (Current_date) - (-mm-dd) Frank Yaeger - DFSORT Development Team (IBM) - yae...@us.ibm.com Specialties: FINDREP, WHEN=GROUP, DATASORT, ICETOOL, Symbols, Migration Many thanks for verifying that. I'm still a bit woozy headed from sinus and was afraid that I was looking, but not seeing. It turns out that this report is cut'n'pasted into an Excel spreadsheet. The person who does this will manually add a column with =today()-colrow where colrow is the column and row with the date of interest. -- John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Semi-OT: Turkeys and MVS wasRe: How Many Mainframes Do You Need?(OT)
-- Having grown up in farm country, I can tell you that domestic turkeys are the absolute stupidest creatures on God's green Earth! You wouldn't believe it unless you saw it! The wild turkey is apparently a bird to be reckoned with. The turkey also was the symbol of the SHARE MVS project for many years. -- The wild turkey is indeed a very wily bird, as any hunter can tell you. Let's end this OT thread. ;-) Sorry I started it.. -- Rick -- Remember that if you're not the lead dog, the view never changes. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to identify the maximum size of VSAM LDS
Sivakumar, Manikandan pisze: Folks, I have a requirement to identify what is the maximum size allowed for VSAM LDS dataset. Is there any way to calculate or perform analysis on this. LDS can grow up to 4GiB. Regular LDS, non-EA. Extended Format LDS with Extended Addressability can grow up to 2^32 CI's *and* is limited to 59 volumes. For typical CI=4096B that gives 16TiB. Still 59 volumes limitation apply, for 3390-54 the real limitation is approx. 3TB. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2009 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 118.763.528 zotych. W zwizku z realizacj warunkowego podwyszenia kapitau zakadowego, na podstawie uchway XXI WZ z dnia 16 marca 2008r., oraz uchway XVI NWZ z dnia 27 padziernika 2008r., moe ulec podwyszeniu do kwoty 123.763.528 z. Akcje w podwyszonym kapitale zakadowym BRE Banku SA bd w caoci opacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.7 upgrade to 1.10
Jump from 2.10 to 1.4 was supported one. Jump from 1.7 to 1.10 is not supported. That's the difference. Is the jump feasible? That's quite another question. It depends! Do you really need to migrate spool data? Do you plan coexistence of new and old system in sysplex? Can you re-load SPOOL? Similar question could apply for RACF db, catalog and other operational datasets. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland Daniel McLaughlin pisze: We moved from OS/390 2.10 to Z/OS 1.4. Our spool fallback was this: We unloaded the spool to tape. We actually had to use this recovery action on one of our tests because we had a last minute gotcha with DB2. Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer [...] --- Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Poster: Jan Smit - Business Connexion jan.s...@bcx.co.za Subject: z/OS 1.7 upgrade to 1.10 --- We currently have z/OS 1.7 with Lifecycle Extension running on two Z10s. We are considering moving to z/OS 1.10 (as opposed to z/OS 1.9). However, we have been told that this is not recommended as there are JES2 spool compatibility issues should we need to back out. Does someone perhaps have experience of converting from z/OS 1.7 to 1.10?=20 -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2009 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 118.763.528 zotych. W zwizku z realizacj warunkowego podwyszenia kapitau zakadowego, na podstawie uchway XXI WZ z dnia 16 marca 2008r., oraz uchway XVI NWZ z dnia 27 padziernika 2008r., moe ulec podwyszeniu do kwoty 123.763.528 z. Akcje w podwyszonym kapitale zakadowym BRE Banku SA bd w caoci opacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.7 upgrade to 1.10
Jump from 2.10 to 1.4 was supported one. Jump from 1.7 to 1.10 is not supported. That's the difference. Radoslaw, Just curious. Where is it documented that 1.7 to 1.10 is not supported? George Fogg -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.7 upgrade to 1.10
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:10:27 -0700, George Fogg gf...@nwlink.com wrote: Jump from 2.10 to 1.4 was supported one. Jump from 1.7 to 1.10 is not supported. That's the difference. Radoslaw, Just curious. Where is it documented that 1.7 to 1.10 is not supported? http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/support/zos_cmf.html -- Walt Farrell, CISSP IBM STSM, z/OS Security Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Old discussion about Windows running on a mainframe ( I brought up)
I'm a bit curious. If I understand what is being done, it is similar to a Java JVM. The z/VOS reads and interprets the x86 arch instructions, with some JIT on the side. However, other companies, such as AMD, need cross licensing to create chips which run x86. That cross licensing is part of IBM's complaint against PSI. PSI was not licensed to create a zArchitecture emulator. Couldn't Intel shut down Mantissa with a similar suite? I don't remember reading that Mantissa has an agreement with Intel. I don't think the fact that z/VOS is a software emulator instead of a harware implementation is relevant. Of course, IANAL. -- John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.7 upgrade to 1.10
According to publication GA22-7499-14, z/OS Migration, the supported migration paths are from z/OS V1R8 and from z/OS V1R9. I don't take this to mean that you cannot migrate directly from z/OS V1R7, but that IBM will not officially support it, except probably through a fee-based service. John P. Baker -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of George Fogg Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 12:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: z/OS 1.7 upgrade to 1.10 Radoslaw, Just curious. Where is it documented that 1.7 to 1.10 is not supported? George Fogg -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Cursor on IPCS sysout stream
Hi Can I refrer to a storage address under the cursor in IPCS sysout stream ? -- Miklos Szigetvari Development Team ISIS Information Systems Gmbh tel: (+43) 2236 27551 570 Fax: (+43) 2236 21081 E-mail: miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com Info: i...@isis-papyrus.com Hotline: +43-2236-27551-111 Visit our Website: http://www.isis-papyrus.com --- This e-mail is only intended for the recipient and not legally binding. Unauthorised use, publication, reproduction or disclosure of the content of this e-mail is not permitted. This email has been checked for known viruses, but ISIS accepts no responsibility for malicious or inappropriate content. --- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Old discussion about Windows running on a mainframe ( I brought up)
IANALE, so wild speculation alert: Emulation *might* be different--PSI kept saying they didn't do emulation, although it quacked like a duck. The AMD licensing might be slightly different, since their architecture is slightly different. But it's a great question! I'd love to know the answer. P.S. z/Architecture. Slash for software (and the architecture, oddly enough, is considered software). On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 12:36 PM, John McKown joa...@swbell.net wrote: I'm a bit curious. If I understand what is being done, it is similar to a Java JVM. The z/VOS reads and interprets the x86 arch instructions, with some JIT on the side. However, other companies, such as AMD, need cross licensing to create chips which run x86. That cross licensing is part of IBM's complaint against PSI. PSI was not licensed to create a zArchitecture emulator. Couldn't Intel shut down Mantissa with a similar suite? I don't remember reading that Mantissa has an agreement with Intel. I don't think the fact that z/VOS is a software emulator instead of a harware implementation is relevant. Of course, IANAL. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.7 upgrade to 1.10
George Fogg pisze: Jump from 2.10 to 1.4 was supported one. Jump from 1.7 to 1.10 is not supported. That's the difference. Radoslaw, Just curious. Where is it documented that 1.7 to 1.10 is not supported? I don't know. What I know is the supported jump/coexistence window is equal to support window. In other words jump from X to Y is supported as long as X is under support. 1.7 came out of support before 1.10 was GA'd. Am I right? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2009 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 118.763.528 zotych. W zwizku z realizacj warunkowego podwyszenia kapitau zakadowego, na podstawie uchway XXI WZ z dnia 16 marca 2008r., oraz uchway XVI NWZ z dnia 27 padziernika 2008r., moe ulec podwyszeniu do kwoty 123.763.528 z. Akcje w podwyszonym kapitale zakadowym BRE Banku SA bd w caoci opacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Old discussion about Windows running on a mainframe ( I brought up)
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Harry Wahl Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 5:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Old discussion about Windows running on a mainframe ( I brought up) A more sensible approach would be to look at creating a Windows HAL (hardware abstraction layer), or something conceptually similar, that runs on z/Series. Historically, this is how Windows has been made to run on different machine architectures. Of course, cooperative development between IBM and Microsoft would be necessary. Another possibility is to exploit the Infiniband feature of the z/10. This feature is profound in terms of 360-z/series evolution, but has been largely ignored, so far. Infiniband attached external hardware products that expose x86 architecture processors, from Intel or IBM itself (or maybe even Intel Larrabee), is an ideal way to run Windows on IBM mainframes. It seems to me that the obvious way to do this would be to build z86 on z in millicode. Then, the only real issue would be performance. An all millicode representation would be somewhat slower than the silicon. Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SMSVSAM toleration maint for 1.10
All, Sometime back I reported that required toleration maintenance for SMSVSAM for z/OS 1.8, 1.9 had gone in error. The fixing PTF has just closed. We early tested a lot of this code. So for those of you doing VSAM RLS going to z/OS 1.10, you have a green light! APAR Identifier .. OA27737 Last Changed 09/03/24 AE OA26534 FIX COMPLETION ** PERFORMANCE ISSUES AFTER INSTALLING PTFS UA42228,UA42229,UA42227,UA42230 ** Symptom .. AE Status ... CLOSED PER Severity ... 2 Date Closed . 09/03/13 Component .. 5695DF122 Duplicate of Reported Release . 180 Fixed Release 999 Component Name VSAM REC LEV SH Special Notice HIPER Current Target Date ..09/04/07 Flags SCP ... PERFORMANCE Platform _ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 MD RSCB1G p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.8497 This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.7 upgrade to 1.10
George Fogg pisze: Jump from 2.10 to 1.4 was supported one. Jump from 1.7 to 1.10 is not supported. That's the difference. Radoslaw, Just curious. Where is it documented that 1.7 to 1.10 is not supported? I don't know. What I know is the supported jump/coexistence window is equal to support window. In other words jump from X to Y is supported as long as X is under support. 1.7 came out of support before 1.10 was GA'd. Am I right? Thank you Radoslaw, John and Walt. Looks like to doc Walt provided tells all. There are some systems we have that will go from 1.7 to 1.11 when it's GA. George Fogg -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SV: COBOL and dynamic allocation (my two cents)
-Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] För Ed Gould Skickat: den 19 mars 2009 03:09 Till: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Ämne: Re: COBOL and dynamic allocation (my two cents) I disagree, Ed. Reading a list of destinations from a parmlib-type dataset can be the easiest, and best way, to handle this situation. But updates to this dataset should be controled and audited, just like a PROCLIB or any other control-related library. Make provision for comments in the destination list and it doesn't have to degenerate into a boar's nest, -- Rick -SNIP-- Rick: Yes you can do that I didn't say you couldn't the issue is (albeit a side issue and important IMO none the less) associating the contents back to the step that is using it *AND* if you then move it out of lets say proclib for discussion here, there is and always will be oops I forgot that this had to be updated. Plus you have the side issue of when the change occurs. usually its another department that handles the update so scheduling it is a matter of what can go wrong will go wrong. I am a pessimist and I have rarely seen it where departments can actually depend on an update to occur when it should. This is not to say your installation is better but more times than not it doesn't happen. There is also another side issue I have experienced myself. in the it is extremely common to search proclib for a dest= (for production and non production) chances are with your way moving it to parmlib type dataset this scan will miss the destination you are looking for. As i see it, it is about how You do the application maintenance. This is really no different than other applications, although other may be implemented in COBOL or other programming languages and this is maybe at JCL level programming. In the same way as You secure future maintenance of COBOL programs You do for this case. (Application librarys, production installation routines etc.) Everything in these cases is about code and data storage; COBOL and DB2, JCL and parmlib, ASM and QSAM, etc... Same base routines, rules and quality verification etc. Regards, Thomas Berg __ Thomas Berg Specialist IT-U SWEDBANK -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.7 upgrade to 1.10
Thank you Radoslaw, John and Walt. Looks like to doc Walt provided tells all. There are some systems we have that will go from 1.7 to 1.11 when it's GA. George Fogg As far as I'm aware, z/OS V1R7 - z/OS V1R11 isn't supported, certainly not according to the document that Walt pointed you to. --- Kevin McKenzie External Phone: 845-435-8282, Tie-line: 8-295-8282 z/OS BCP SVT, Dept FXKA, Bldg 706/2D38 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Old discussion about Windows running on a mainframe ( I brought up)
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:36:42 -0500, John McKown wrote: I'm a bit curious. If I understand what is being done, it is similar to a Java JVM. The z/VOS reads and interprets the x86 arch instructions, with some JIT on the side. However, other companies, such as AMD, need cross licensing to create chips which run x86. Do they? That cross licensing is part of IBM's complaint against PSI. PSI was not licensed to create a zArchitecture emulator. I thought that the problem with PSI (and Hercules, for that matter) was not about the emulation of the hardware, but the licensing of z/OS. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Message suppression (was: IEE252I MSG's)
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 01:34:47 +, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: You can't use VTAM messages as a model. NetView and VTAM have a very special relationship. The suppression was more than VTAM messages. The only reason I mentioned VTAM was because our VTAM/SNA team was responsible for NetView, as well. ... Let me put it another way, then. Prior to the recent implementation of NetView's Message Revision Table (for SSI-based message suppression among other things) NetView had absolutely no control over messages WTOed from other address spaces. None. It could suppress its own messages and VTAM messages . That's it. NetView could control what it did with a copy of the message: log/nolog to NetView's log, display/nodisplay on a NetView user's terminal, log/nolog a copy to SYSLOG (which would result in 2 SYSLOG copies of the message if MPF had SUP(N). NetView had no control over the original WTOed message because it operated on a copy of the message sent to it by the NetView SSI. It could write to SYSLOG a message that MPF had given SUP(Y) but had no way to suppress an external message with SUP(N). Pat O'Keefe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.7 upgrade to 1.10
1.7 went EOS 30 September, 2008. A 2 year, fee based, IBM Lifecycle Extension for z/OS V1.7 (5637-A01) (SHARE, Austin, JES3 project, session 2700) does exist. The only supported releases are 1.8 - 1.10. Compatibility, coexistence, toleration (CCT) is guaranteed for n+2. Support is GA+3 years. That being said, I have violated the n+2 (n+3 at the time) CCT rule. You should still be able to get the 1.7-1.9 CCT PTFs. Put them on. Be careful of the console restructure and protected user key CSA. Use the 1.9 migration aid. Verify your vendor products. Review the 1.10 migration guide for big issues. Do NOT run 1.7 and 1.10 simultaneously in a shared DASD environment. Switching between 1.7 and 1.10 MAY work, be prepared to recover catalogs. Do NOT use any new 1.10 features until 1.7 is history. Good luck. Dennis Roach GHG Corporation Lockheed Martin Mission Services Flight Design and Operations Contract NASA/JSC Address: 2100 Space Park Drive LM-15-4BH Houston, Texas 77058 Mail: P.O. Box 58487 Mail Code H4C Houston, Texas 77258 Phone: Voice: (281)336-5027 Cell: (713)591-1059 Fax:(281)336-5410 E-Mail: dennis.ro...@lmco.com All opinions expressed by me are mine and may not agree with my employer or any person, company, or thing, living or dead, on or near this or any other planet, moon, asteroid, or other spatial object, natural or manufactured, since the beginning of time. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Update to XMITIP Version 09.03 (final)
In a message dated 3/24/2009 12:27:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, steve.fi...@eds.com writes: I wanted to say thank you for your work on the XMITIP software AMEN. It made me smarter and was such an enhancement to SMTPNOTE made it almost bearable. What's the prospects of getting it over to PERTH as IUP? **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220085203x1201389322/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DMarchfooterNO62) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Update to XMITIP Version 09.03 (final)
On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 14:14 -0400, Ed Finnell wrote: [Lionel's XMITIP] was such an enhancement to SMTPNOTE made it almost bearable. What's the prospects of getting it over to PERTH as IUP? Saw this in the 1.11 preview: | In z/OS V1.11, a new z/OS Communications Server mail | client for sending mail from z/OS to a mail server is | planned. The new mail client will be designed to | support the existing user interface for sending mail | from z/OS that was defined by the old SMTP/NJE mail | gateway server, and many new mail enhancements such | as secure connections, the ESMTP protocol, and IPv6 | connections. The new z/OS Communications Server mail | client will be designed to support sending mail only; | it will not support receiving mail from the Internet. | This support will be designed to provide secure | connections to a mail server, provide simplified setup | and operation, use less resources than the existing | SMTP/NJE mail gateway server when sending mail from | z/OS, and support existing applications that write | mail messages via the JES spool interface. -- David Andrews A. Duda and Sons, Inc. david.andr...@duda.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Future of DLC (Data Link Control)
I've got a vendor coming in wanting us to enable DLC so 'BizTalk can talk to the mainframe'. I'm thinking like DLC is such old technology and we've deinstalled all the SNA gateways/etc. in favor of TCP/IP types of connections. Anyone aware of any stated DLC direction (like it's going away soon)? I'm concerned that I've got a vendor coming in proposing technology that just isn't current. Thanks, Dennis -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Old discussion about Windows running on a mainframe ( I brought up)
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:49:26 -0500, Tom Marchant m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com wrote: On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:36:42 -0500, John McKown wrote: I'm a bit curious. If I understand what is being done, it is similar to a Java JVM. The z/VOS reads and interprets the x86 arch instructions, with some JIT on the side. However, other companies, such as AMD, need cross licensing to create chips which run x86. Do they? I am certain that AMD and Via have cross licensing agreements with Intel. I know because Intel has recently indicated that AMD is violating that agreement. http://www.amd.com/us-en/Weblets/0,,7832_12670_12686,00.html That cross licensing is part of IBM's complaint against PSI. PSI was not licensed to create a zArchitecture emulator. I thought that the problem with PSI (and Hercules, for that matter) was not about the emulation of the hardware, but the licensing of z/OS. Hum, parts of z/Architecture are patented. Not the hardware to perform the function, but the actual function itself - indepandant of the implementation. Neither Hercules/390 nor PSI had a license for those parts of the z/Architecture, even though they implemented them (not totally sure about Hercules/390 on this point). Also, as I remember (Danger, Will Robinson!), part of IBM's argument was that PSI's implementation of the z/Architecture was not verified by IBM. IBM said that in that case, the use of licensed IBM software (z/OS et al.) could not be guaranteed. However, much of IBM's premium for their software was due to IBM's guarantees on the reliability of the software. If the hardware was not up to snuff, then IBM might suffer damage to its reputation for reliability if the software (z/OS) were to fail. This was the logic as to why IBM refused to license z/OS et al. on the PSI solution. -- Tom Marchant -- John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Current version of IEFACTRT?
Is IEFACTRT on CBTTape file 109 still good (for z/OS 1.10)? I have a very old version from IBM which appears to be giving wrong data. I.e. I look at an SMF type 30 subtype 5 record and it says 109312 1/100ths of a second CPU time. But looking at the output from the IEFACTRT exit on the job itself say 7.68 minutes or 46080 1/100ths of a second. -- John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Current version of IEFACTRT?
John, Why not use IEEACTRT supplied in sys1.samplib ? Natarajan John McKown joa...@swbell.net 3/24/2009 12:01 PM Is IEFACTRT on CBTTape file 109 still good (for z/OS 1.10)? I have a very old version from IBM which appears to be giving wrong data. I.e. I look at an SMF type 30 subtype 5 record and it says 109312 1/100ths of a second CPU time. But looking at the output from the IEFACTRT exit on the job itself say 7.68 minutes or 46080 1/100ths of a second. -- John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html NOTICE OF CONFIDENTIALITY The information contained in this communication, including but not limited to any accompanying document(s) and/or attachment(s), is privileged and confidential and is intended solely for the above-named individual(s). If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that any distribution, copying, disclosure, and/or use of the information contained herein is strictly prohibited. If you received this communication in error, please destroy all copies of the communication, whether in electronic or hard copy format, and immediately contact the Security Office at EDFUND at (916) 526-7539 or securityoff...@edfund.org. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: grs
Thanks to those who replied. Drain init worked perfect. Bill -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Doug Henry Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 8:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: grs On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 07:38:30 -0400, Carroll, William carro...@grangeinsurance.com wrote: . Is there anyway to release the exclusive? Job obviously will not executed because of the exclusive. I would drain the init that the job ran in and see if that released the enqueue. Doug -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html DISCLAIMER: The information contained in this message may be privileged or confidential and is protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
GRSPLEX vs CA MIM IM
We are creating two new systems without our usual (and historic) set of software. In researching the new setup, I found a GRSPLEX can span systems not in a sysplex. Does this work well enough to use a GRSPLEX instead of CA MIM Integrity Manager? If you are using a GRSPLEX between systems what are you using to share tape? Gray Maddry Operations System Specialist State of North Carolina Office of Information Technology Services 919-754-6434 Office 919-398-8639 Cell 919-850-2854 Fax 919-754-6000 ITS Service Desk gray.mad...@its.nc.govmailto:gray.mad...@its.nc.gov http://www.its.state.nc.ushttp://www.its.state.nc.us/ E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties by authorized state officials -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: GRSPLEX vs CA MIM IM
We are creating two new systems without our usual (and historic) set of software. In researching the new setup, I found a GRSPLEX can span systems not in a sysplex. Does this work well enough to use a GRSPLEX instead of CA MIM Integrity Manager? Only GRS-Ring allows you to go outside the scope of a single SYSPLEX. GRS-Ring has (exponential) performance issues. MIM performs better (IMO) than GRS-Ring. If you put the controls into the CF (GRS* -- optional with MIM), then you cannot span SYSPLEX's, because you cannot share CF's between SYSPLEX's. All of that being said, what exactly do you want to do? If you don't go beyond 2 SYSPLEX's, GRS-Ring won't hurt too much. And, you can save the cost of 2 MIM licences. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Old discussion about Windows running on a mainframe ( I brought up)
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:55:38 -0500, John McKown wrote: On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:49:26 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote: On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:36:42 -0500, John McKown wrote: However, other companies, such as AMD, need cross licensing to create chips which run x86. Do they? I am certain that AMD and Via have cross licensing agreements with Intel. I know because Intel has recently indicated that AMD is violating that agreement. http://www.amd.com/us-en/Weblets/0,,7832_12670_12686,00.html The only thing I see in the page like that is this: In October 1991, Intel commenced a federal court action for copyright infringement. An arbitrator subsequently awarded AMD full rights to make and sell the Am386. The Supreme Court of California upheld this decision in 1994. Is that what you are talking about? That cross licensing is part of IBM's complaint against PSI. PSI was not licensed to create a zArchitecture emulator. I thought that the problem with PSI (and Hercules, for that matter) was not about the emulation of the hardware, but the licensing of z/OS. Also, as I remember (Danger, Will Robinson!), part of IBM's argument was that PSI's implementation of the z/Architecture was not verified by IBM. IBM said that in that case, the use of licensed IBM software (z/OS et al.) could not be guaranteed. However, much of IBM's premium for their software was due to IBM's guarantees on the reliability of the software. If the hardware was not up to snuff, then IBM might suffer damage to its reputation for reliability if the software (z/OS) were to fail. This was the logic as to why IBM refused to license z/OS et al. on the PSI solution. And one of the factors that makes the 360/370/z et. al. reliable is the machine check interruption. Does the Itanium processor have that capability? I'm pretty sure that none of the x86 processors do. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: GRSPLEX vs CA MIM IM
Gray, The GRS ring has to have CTC connections between all LPARs that you want to share data. The more LPARs in the ring, the worse performance gets. At one site, we had 8 LPARs (6 were in a single sysplex). It was managable for our needs. As for sharing tape, I prefer the IBM product ATAM. Communicates between LPARs with TCPIP. Drives are offline to LPARs until needed. Still need GRS or MIM to protect data enqueues. Contact me offline if you want more details on how this was handled. Jimmy -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ICETOOL - date subtraction?
Frank Yaeger wrote: This new thread is about subtracting a specific date from the current date (e.g. date-mmdd) which DFSORT does not support. Okay. Thanks for saying that and thanks for your previous reply to John. I see now properly that word 'duration' of inactivity. So it seemed to me REXX or other program is needed to parse IRRDBU00's output and calculate the duration in days. Sorry, John, for jumping upon you, but I clearly remembered that October 2008 thread and even that 90 days... Please accept my apology... Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
ICETOOL - date subtraction
John McKown's problem is a trivial one after the conversion of a MMDD date into an integer elapsed-days-after-epoch-origin form. The PL/I procedure below does this conversion and then calculates the day-of-the week in the sequence 0, 1, 2, . . . , 6, from it. Omitting this last step yieds the result that John needs. This procedure also includes comments that explain the calendrical computations involved. The implementation of this scheme is straightforward in any statement-level procedural language (even the HLASM macro language) except C, which botches the definition of its equivalent of the PL/I BIF mod. ymd2dow: procedure(mmdd) returns(signed binary fixed(7,0)) reorder ; /* Given a licit ISO-standard descending Gregorian date in the eight-character 'mmdd' format, this function calculates and returns as its value the serial number of the corresponding day of the week in the sequence 0, Sunday 4, Thursday 1, Monday 5, Friday 2, Tuesday 6, Saturday 3, Wednesday version 1, level 0, John Gilmore, 2003 September */ /* parameter */ declare mmdd character(8) nonassignable parameter ; /* common template for CDICPMT_leap and CDICPMT_non_leap */ declare cdicpmt(0:12) based(tabp) signed binary fixed(15,0) ; /* Cumulative Days In Current, Preceding Months, leap year */ declare CDICPMT_leap(0:12) signed binary fixed(15,0) static initial( 0, 31, 60, 91, 121, 152, 182, 213, 244, 274, 305, 335, 366) ; /* Cumulative Days In Current, Preceding Months, non-leap year */ declare CDICPMT_non_leap(0:12) signed binary fixed(15,0) static initial( 0, 31, 59, 90, 120, 151, 181, 212, 243, 273, 304, 334, 365) ; /* builtins, named constants used */ declare (addr, binary, mod, substr) builtin ; declare (F0 value(0), F1 value(1), F4 value(4), F7 value(7), F100 value(100), F365 value(365), F400 value(400), F3600 value(3600), FGD_3600Feb28 value(1314564)) signed binary fixed(31,0) ; /* LIFO scratch storage */ declare tabp /* - cdicpmt for leap | non-leap year */ pointer, (d, /* Gregorian-calendar day of month */ gd, /* Gregorian-day date value */ m, /* Gregorian-calendar month of year */ mm1, /* m - 1 */ y, /* Gregorian-calendar year */ ym1)/* y - 1 */ signed binary fixed(31,0), dowsub /* returned: one of 0|1|2|3|4|5|6 */ signed binary fixed(7,0), (after_3600Feb28, /* is date after 3600 February 28? */ leap_year) /* y a leap year? */ aligned bit ; /* extract arithmetic year, month, day-of-month values */ y = binary(substr(mmdd,1,4),31,0) ; ym1 = y - F1 ; m = binary(substr(mmdd,5,2),31,0) ; mm1 = m - F1 ; d = binary(substr(mmdd,7,2),31,0) ; /* leap or non-leap year? set table pointer appropriately */ leap_year = (mod(y,F4) = F0) ((mod(y,F100) ^= F0) | ((mod(y,F400) = F0) (y ^= F3600))) ; if leap_year then tabp = addr(CDICPMT_leap) ; else tabp = addr(CDICPMT_non_leap) ; /* calculate corresponding Gregorian-day value, using the method of inclusions and exclusions (A GD is the number of elapsed days following the epoch origin of the Gregorian calendar, December 31.) */ gd = ym1 * F365 /* include 365 days for each preceding year */ + ym1/F4 /* include one day for each preceding Julian leap year */ - ym1/F100 /* exclude one day for each preceding centurial year */ + ym1/F400 /* reinclude one day for every 4th excluded centurial year */ + cdicpmt(mm1) /* include the days in the preceding months of the current year */ + d ; /* include the days in current month of the current year */ /* correct for year-3600 anomaly. The year 3600 is a centurial one and mod(3600,400) = 0. It should therefore be a Gregorian leap year, but it is not to be one by fiat in order to sop up accumulated precession. */ after_3600Feb28 = (gd FGD_3600Feb28) ; if after_3600Feb28 then gd -= F1 ; /* calculate, return day-of-week subscript */ dowsub = mod(gd,F7) ; return(dowsub) ; end ymd2dow ; John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA _ Windows Live™ SkyDrive: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_skydrive_032009 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at
Re: GRSPLEX vs CA MIM IM
Ted, We have a monoplex, a Sysplex(5 lpars) and a Sysplex(2 lpars) that share DASD. There is not much activity between the monoplex and the rest. More between the two Sysplexes. Each Sysplex has its own DASD but can read and write to the other plex's DASD. Looking to save MIM licenses. We have plans but no schedule to reduce the 5 lpars to 4 or 2. Gray -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 3:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: GRSPLEX vs CA MIM IM -SNIP- All of that being said, what exactly do you want to do? If you don't go beyond 2 SYSPLEX's, GRS-Ring won't hurt too much. And, you can save the cost of 2 MIM licences. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Gray Maddry Operations System Specialist State of North Carolina Office of Information Technology Services 919-754-6434 Office 919-398-8639 Cell 919-850-2854 Fax 919-754-6000 ITS Service Desk gray.mad...@its.nc.gov http://www.its.state.nc.us E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties by authorized state officials -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Future of DLC (Data Link Control)
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Longnecker, Dennis I've got a vendor coming in wanting us to enable DLC so 'BizTalk can talk to the mainframe'. I'm thinking like DLC is such old technology and we've deinstalled all the SNA gateways/etc. in favor of TCP/IP types of connections. Anyone aware of any stated DLC direction (like it's going away soon)? I'm concerned that I've got a vendor coming in proposing technology that just isn't current. Have a look at http://www.microsoft.com/biztalk/en/us/roadmap.aspx From what I can see there, your vendor is stale. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: GRSPLEX vs CA MIM IM
How much tape sharing will be happening? Have you looked at ATS STAR? --- Kevin McKenzie External Phone: 845-435-8282, Tie-line: 8-295-8282 z/OS BCP SVT, Dept FXKA, Bldg 706/2D38 Maddry, Gray gray.mad...@its.nc.gov Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 03/24/2009 03:25 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu cc Subject GRSPLEX vs CA MIM IM We are creating two new systems without our usual (and historic) set of software. In researching the new setup, I found a GRSPLEX can span systems not in a sysplex. Does this work well enough to use a GRSPLEX instead of CA MIM Integrity Manager? If you are using a GRSPLEX between systems what are you using to share tape? Gray Maddry Operations System Specialist State of North Carolina Office of Information Technology Services 919-754-6434 Office 919-398-8639 Cell 919-850-2854 Fax 919-754-6000 ITS Service Desk gray.mad...@its.nc.govmailto:gray.mad...@its.nc.gov http://www.its.state.nc.ushttp://www.its.state.nc.us/ E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties by authorized state officials -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: GRSPLEX vs CA MIM IM
We have a monoplex, a Sysplex(5 lpars) and a Sysplex(2 lpars) that share DASD. Sorry, I misspoke a bit. When I said GRS-Ring was okay between two SYSPLEX's, I was wrong. It's between images. Since the GRS token has to be passed to each image to ensure global ENQ's, the more the worse the response. GRS* only works within a single SYSPLEX. MIMgr works because (as long as the CDS is not in a CF), every system talks directly with the master system (oldest IPL), so there is only passing of data between the requester and the master -- no passing around a ring. The ring is the bottleneck, and you have eight systems -- way to many! If you can afford the fees, I'd stick with MIMgr in your config. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
MFNetDisk is not only disk.
HI, In a few days or more MFNetDisk will have support to tape. It will support 3490 emulation tape for now. This feature is part of the MFNetDisk. You can run one MFNetDisk with support to disk and tape as well. The emulation can be mixure of tapes and disks in one job. The tape emulation will run the best as MTL. As the disks, the tape emulation support unlimited tapes number and unlimited PC without any distant limitation. I will let you know when the product will be ready. I will be happy to receive feedback from you privately to my email. Thanks, Shai -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: GRSPLEX vs CA MIM IM
Ted, Actually, you were correct originally. Ring works between systems in an environment that has a sysplex and systems outside the sysplex. It is Star that works only within a sysplex. In fact, if you have only a sysplex, there is almost zero reason to use Ring and IBM strongly recommends Star in this situation. A Ring in his environment might not be so bad, depending on the how Gray sets it up. He could significantly lower the RESMIL value to improve performance (IBM recommends RESMIL of 0 for an environment such as his without Ring Acceleration). There would be a little more overhead, but perhaps he can afford the overhead as a trade-off for better performance. Also, he could use ACCELSYS(2) to gain a significant performance benefit in his Ring. I'm not saying that he should go with Ring rather than staying with MIM, but sometimes you do what you have to do. If money is really tight, perhaps Ring would be acceptable. I do suggest that Gray carefully review the considerations outlined in the MVS Planning: Global Resource Serialization document before making his decision. Don ** Don Deese, Computer Management Sciences, Inc. Voice: (804) 776-7109 Fax: (8043) 776-7139 http://www.cpexpert.org ** At 03:47 PM 3/24/2009, you wrote: We have a monoplex, a Sysplex(5 lpars) and a Sysplex(2 lpars) that share DASD. Sorry, I misspoke a bit. When I said GRS-Ring was okay between two SYSPLEX's, I was wrong. It's between images. Since the GRS token has to be passed to each image to ensure global ENQ's, the more the worse the response. GRS* only works within a single SYSPLEX. MIMgr works because (as long as the CDS is not in a CF), every system talks directly with the master system (oldest IPL), so there is only passing of data between the requester and the master -- no passing around a ring. The ring is the bottleneck, and you have eight systems -- way to many! If you can afford the fees, I'd stick with MIMgr in your config. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
how to delete the vsam FILE while I got IEC161I (return code 052) SFI=009
Hi all, I checked with GRSMON, there is nothing resource enqueue and can't delete the file with rc IEC1611 rc=52 SFI=009 . Is there any way to delete the VSAM file? 009SUBTSKMS - First open of a data set, not connecting, OUTPUT or DISP=OLD, SHR=1,x. Cannot get exclusive control of the I resource. Another ACB is already open to the data set. Thanks and regards -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Future of DLC (Data Link Control)
Dennis I spotted SNA in your post so I figured I should know something about what the post was about - but I'm left with barely a clue. Is DLC some new shorthand for something other than what DLC has traditionally meant, namely Data Link Control, the 2nd layer of the Open Systems Interconnection (OSI) model? Well, I did quite a bit of research - it saves so much time when the original post is s bit clearer about the subject! - and I discovered the Microsoft DLC driver. Indeed Microsoft's DLC appears to be a building block in constructing communication between some Microsoft programming, presumably BizTalk in this instance, and something else. Microsoft's DLC is an implementation of IEEE 802.2 Logical Link Control (LLC). The IEEE 802.2 is the key, specifically the connection-oriented version. It implies communication over a LAN, typically Ethernet or Token Ring. I assume there is some higher level software, maybe Microsoft's Host Integration Server (HIS), which supports higher level SNA protocols so that, minimally - and perhaps maximally - Low Entry Networking (LEN) is supported. Thus an LU supported by say HIS can be in SNA session with another LU in a node supporting the same or equivalent protocols over the same, potentially segmented - including DLSw - LAN. I was very amused to see DLC being described as a non-routed protocol. Well, it is by definition - Duh! If you are concerned about what you would require on the mainframe, today it would be an OSA feature configured to be able to support a VTAM External Communication Adapter (XCA) major node definition - like the old 3172 if you ever had one of those. You can review what types of OSA feature might be suitable from the following: http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/tips0088.html You need to look for Yes in the SNA/APPN/HPR traffic column. Do not be put off by APPN and HPR. For LEN support, you need only the traditional subarea flavour of VTAM which you probably still maintain on each of your LPARs minimally as a stand-alone VTAM in order to support TSO if nothing else - a stand-alone VTAM just as it used to be in the mid to late '70s when I first got to know VTAM - before it became a program product! If it comes to it and you need help configuring it - if the documentation advising how to use their IP-DLC (Enterprise Extender to the rest of the world) from Microsoft is anything to go by, you *will* need help - please post again in the fullness of time. Thinking this through a bit, if the Microsoft DLC is an option in order to support BizTalk then their IP-DLC (Enterprise Extender) should also be an option. This is very much du jour for SNA support in an IP-centric world. However, you *would* need to enable your VTAM for APPN (and HPR) in this case. Anyone aware of any stated DLC direction (like it's going away soon)? I see no reason why the use of the OSA for SNA traffic could be heading for the sunset. OSA features supporting the OSE (SNA-supporting) flavour of CHPID seem to be being added from time to time to that Technote I referenced. You will, of course, attract some anti-SNA bigots with an appeal such as this. Be sure that any advice given has documentation from IBM behind rather than simply being a warped opinion. Chris Mason On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:48:02 -0700, Longnecker, Dennis dennis.longnec...@courts.wa.gov wrote: I've got a vendor coming in wanting us to enable DLC so 'BizTalk can talk to the mainframe'. I'm thinking like DLC is such old technology and we've deinstalled all the SNA gateways/etc. in favor of TCP/IP types of connections. Anyone aware of any stated DLC direction (like it's going away soon)? I'm concerned that I've got a vendor coming in proposing technology that just isn't current. Thanks, Dennis -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: how to delete the vsam FILE while I got IEC161I (return code 052) SFI=009
Hi all i try to uninibit the bit ..after reset, the file still can't delete properly. ALTER TEST.DATA UNINHIBIT ALTER TEST.INDEX UNINHIBIT I try to verify/print dump the file but failed with the same RC I try to examine the file, it's succesfull with no error anyone know how to delete the vSAM file?? On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Tommy Tsui tommyt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I checked with GRSMON, there is nothing resource enqueue and can't delete the file with rc IEC1611 rc=52 SFI=009 . Is there any way to delete the VSAM file? 009 SUBTSKMS - First open of a data set, not connecting, OUTPUT or DISP=OLD, SHR=1,x. Cannot get exclusive control of the I resource. Another ACB is already open to the data set. Thanks and regards -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.7 upgrade to 1.10
This seems to come up every few months. I have agreed to present a session at the next share that (hopefully) will put this issue to rest. There is so much FUD about this particular issue that it gets funny. There is NOTHING,NOTHING,NOTHING against migrating to the current version of z/OS directly from ANY version of z/OS, or even going back at least to OS/390 2.7. Not only that, but with proper planning you can fall back as well. All it takes is planning. Obviously there are incompatibilities, but they aren't in the catalog that's for sure. I have performed well over 100 migrations/conversions from back levels of the OS to the then and now current level of the OS. Compatibility isn't ever a problem, the only problems that happen are when you fail to plan. Can you update the catalogs from a newer version of the OS and still be okay on your old version, the answer is YES. Should you do that without planning things out properly, the answer is NO. Will there be problems falling back? If you don't plan things out, the answer is YES. If you were migrating from 1.9 to 1.10 and didn't plan it out, you would have problems falling back. In fact, if you were just putting maintenance on your running 1.10 system and you didn't plan things out, you're going to have a problem falling back. There are NO problems migrating your 1.7 JES spool data to the newest version. You can use NJE, you can use Spool offload. Can you use NJE under TCP, can you MAS the different versions of JES together? The answer is it depends on if that support is available for the version your moving from. Now, obviously, there are some things that you can't do on some conversions/migrations. Just as a quick example, you may not be able to create an IODF from an older version of the OS that can be used fully by the newer version, and there are many other issues as well that can cause you some small headaches. The problems are all well known and well documented at this point in time, so there is no reason for not knowing this up front when you convert. NO ONE wants to do a migration of more than one OS level at a jump. Who in there right mind would want to jump from z/OS 1.1 to 1.10 by first going to 1.3, then 1.5 then 1.7, then 1.9, then 1.10? You couldn't even get most of those versions at this point in time so even thinking about multiple jumps is silly. I can imagine how many systems programmers would be strung up by the users if they were told to spend a month testing a new release of z/OS only to be told now lets do it again a couple more times with ANOTHER version that we have no plans on actually running!! If the question was is there a spool compatibility issue backing out from 1.10 back to 1.7 should a backout become necessary. The answer is that you should (any time you migrate to anything) backup your data, and offload your spool data and restore it on the other end. If you need to move back from 1.10 to 1.7, you again backup your data and offload the spool data and restore it on the other end. It doesn't matter how far you are jumping. Backup the data, offload the spool, (unless you are going to use NJE and co-exist these systems), then it's just a backup that you need. If the question was can you read a 1.7 spool with a 1.10 JES, the answer is YES, but why would you want to? That in itself is a very poor migration plan. What are you saving by doing that, 15 minutes? Look at the cost if ANYTHING were to happen, and it doesn't even have to be related to 1.10 or 1.7, what if you had a DASD problem? What if it rains on Tuesday? Your plan should never be to jump first and think about recovery later. ALWAYS plan for things to NOT work, ALWAYS plan for things to break. If you don't have a plan, STOP until you do. Sorry for the soapbox speech (again), but IBM does NOT want you to have to perform multiple jumps to get to your target release. On the other hand, it's not fair for IBM to have to test every possible fallback for you. Believe me, IBM does NOT want to make it difficult for you to migrate to the newest version of the OS. As I previously said, there is a lot of FUD on this issue, you have to just look past it and create a proper plan that makes sense. Don't be afraid to ask questions, and don't assume that the answer you get is going to be the right one. You should ALWAYS have a plan, and ALL plans should have contingencies for what to do, (and when to do it), if things don't work out. Falling back to the old version is never fun, but it isn't traumatic either. I will be willing to bet that if you plan for the fall back, that even if you don't need to use it, you are NOT wasting your time. Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
