Re: Amazing article.

2010-05-17 Thread Timothy Sipples
Clark Morris asks:
has Bull kept updating the ex-Honeywell/GE line for GCOS?

Updating is too strong a word, but Bull still supports GCOS, yes. More
information is available here:

http://www.bull.com/servers/gcos8/index.html

In the Japanese domestic market NEC still supports a close cousin of GCOS
called ACOS. More information is available here (in Japanese):

http://www.nec.co.jp/products/acosclub/index.html

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Chris Horder/CSI is out of the office.

2010-05-17 Thread Chris Horder
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CA.COM Server error?

2010-05-17 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Is anybody else having a problem with CA support this morning?

Last week CA.com brought up the CA site now I get 

Server Error in '/' Application.

Runtime Error 
Description: An application error occurred on the server. The current custom 
error settings for this application prevent the details of the application 
error from being viewed remotely (for security reasons). It could, however, be 
viewed by browsers running on the local server machine. 
Details: To enable the details of this specific error message to be viewable on 
remote machines, please create a customErrors tag within a web.config 
configuration file located in the root directory of the current web 
application. This customErrors tag should then have its mode attribute set 
to Off.

!-- Web.Config Configuration File --
configuration
system.web
customErrors mode=Off/
/system.web
/configuration
 
Notes: The current error page you are seeing can be replaced by a custom error 
page by modifying the defaultRedirect attribute of the application's 
customErrors configuration tag to point to a custom error page URL.

!-- Web.Config Configuration File --
configuration
system.web
customErrors mode=RemoteOnly defaultRedirect=mycustompage.htm/
/system.web
/configuration
 
Any suggestions welcome.


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Re: CA.COM Server error?

2010-05-17 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Question answered off-list. - support.ca.com 

Thank You,
Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor

From: O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 7:05 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: CA.COM Server error?

Is anybody else having a problem with CA support this morning?

Last week CA.com brought up the CA site now I get

Server Error in '/' Application.

Runtime Error
Description: An application error occurred on the server. The current custom 
error settings for this application prevent the details of the application 
error from being viewed remotely (for security reasons). It could, however, be 
viewed by browsers running on the local server machine.
Details: To enable the details of this specific error message to be viewable on 
remote machines, please create a customErrors tag within a web.config 
configuration file located in the root directory of the current web 
application. This customErrors tag should then have its mode attribute set 
to Off.

!-- Web.Config Configuration File --
configuration
system.web
customErrors mode=Off/
/system.web
/configuration

Notes: The current error page you are seeing can be replaced by a custom error 
page by modifying the defaultRedirect attribute of the application's 
customErrors configuration tag to point to a custom error page URL.

!-- Web.Config Configuration File --
configuration
system.web
customErrors mode=RemoteOnly defaultRedirect=mycustompage.htm/
/system.web
/configuration

Any suggestions welcome.


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Re: Benchmarking the IPL

2010-05-17 Thread Kelman, Tom
Timothy,

I saw your post talking about having an A01 warm standby with Z03 CBU.
That's similar to what my management is thinking, but without the warm
standby.  We have EMC storage and it we do synchronous mirroring from
our main site to our DR site.  Since that is all done via the EMC
control units we don't need to have the system up for it.  We do want to
go to the DR site as needed to do minimal connectivity tests.  For
those we plan to just IPL the A01 system.  Then, when we need to do
serious DR tests we would activate the Z03 and IPL that.  Basically,
the whole purpose of this exercise is to determine how long it would
take to be up and ready for those minimal connectivity tests.

Tom Kelman
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Commerce Bank of Kansas City
(816) 760-7632
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 Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 5:26 AM
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 Subject: Re: Benchmarking the IPL
 
 Tom,
 
 I'm a little confused by your question. Reading between the lines, you
 seem
 to be describing IBM's standard Capacity Backup (CBU) offering as part
of
 your contract. CBU covers both actual disasters and a certain number
of
 rehearsals over the contract period. There are no additional IBM
software
 charges (beyond your normal charges) associated with CBU activations,
 provided you're adhering to the terms of the CBU contract.
 
 What confuses me is why you'd be IPLing outside the CBU terms.
Everything
 you described seems like it would be covered as part of CBU, and if
you
 have a CBU capacity of Z03 then you'll be experiencing IPL times
 associated
 with the Z03 capacity (upon CBU activation).
 
 Could you elaborate a bit on what scenario(s) you have in mind?
Thanks.
 
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Re: Of interest to the Independent Contractors on the list

2010-05-17 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
charl...@mcn.org (Charles Mills) writes:
 Um ... the Y2K thingie was real. Without the efforts of a lot of the
 people on this list data processing as we know it WOULD have come to an end.

Y2K remediation also contributed heavily to outsourcing uptik. Y2K
remediation was competing for resources with on-going projects and the
internet bubble ... so lots of institutions were forced to go overseas
for the temporary resources to handle Y2K remediation. Y2K remediation
then created business relationships that continued after Y2K activity
finished.

Then there are the stories involving at least one large financial
institution that outsorced Y2K remediation to the lowest bidder w/o
adequately checking their references (and later found interesting extra
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Re: Benchmarking the IPL

2010-05-17 Thread Dana Mitchell
On Mon, 17 May 2010 07:41:33 -0500, Kelman, Tom 
thomas.kel...@commercebank.com wrote:

I saw your post talking about having an A01 warm standby with Z03 CBU.

Tom,

Thats the setup we are using: z9BC A01 at an alternate site.   FWIW, our 
most recent IPLs of z/OS 1.11 on that machine took approxmiately 7 minutes 
from start to 'TCAS ACCEPTING LOGONS',  keeping in mind that time includes a 
few manual replies such as '1,noreq'  etc.

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RSU Maint and adding ZIIP Feature

2010-05-17 Thread Dazzo, Matt
We are running z1.9 and I'm getting ready to pull RSU maint for the next 
maintenance cycle. There is also a possibility that we will  upgrade our box 
from z890 to a z10BC with a ZIIP in the not too distant future.  Is there any 
harm at this time in pulling and applying the PTF's for the ZIIP while being on 
the z890? I'd like to be prepared should a box swap happen sooner than 
expected. I would not think so but a double check with this list is comforting.

Thanks
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Re: Benchmarking the IPL

2010-05-17 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
Tom, if you're running as a guest under z/vm, which some D/R vendors do, 
then you could cap it with a set share xxx absolute limithard. You didn't say 
if 
this was your box or a D/R Vendor box. 

If there's no z/VM, then LPAR weights is what you have to work with. 

I would definitely check out the referenced redbook. And for a more definitive 
IPL time, check out IPLDATA STATUS in any dump in IPCS, it will show you IPL 
and NIP times. 

Mary Anne 

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Re: Benchmarking the IPL

2010-05-17 Thread Roland Schiradin
Tom, 

z/OS contains a cblock IPST pointed by ECVTIPST. 

This cblock contains information about the IPL time for various steps.
SHOWzOS display the data and there is also a IPCS command
but can't remember the name. 

Roland



Timothy,

I saw your post talking about having an A01 warm standby with Z03 CBU.
That's similar to what my management is thinking, but without the warm
standby.  We have EMC storage and it we do synchronous mirroring from
our main site to our DR site.  Since that is all done via the EMC
control units we don't need to have the system up for it.  We do want to
go to the DR site as needed to do minimal connectivity tests.  For
those we plan to just IPL the A01 system.  Then, when we need to do
serious DR tests we would activate the Z03 and IPL that.  Basically,
the whole purpose of this exercise is to determine how long it would
take to be up and ready for those minimal connectivity tests.

Tom Kelman
Enterprise Capacity Planner
Commerce Bank of Kansas City
(816) 760-7632
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 Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 5:26 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: Benchmarking the IPL

 Tom,

 I'm a little confused by your question. Reading between the lines, you
 seem
 to be describing IBM's standard Capacity Backup (CBU) offering as part
of
 your contract. CBU covers both actual disasters and a certain number
of
 rehearsals over the contract period. There are no additional IBM
software
 charges (beyond your normal charges) associated with CBU activations,
 provided you're adhering to the terms of the CBU contract.

 What confuses me is why you'd be IPLing outside the CBU terms.
Everything
 you described seems like it would be covered as part of CBU, and if
you
 have a CBU capacity of Z03 then you'll be experiencing IPL times
 associated
 with the Z03 capacity (upon CBU activation).

 Could you elaborate a bit on what scenario(s) you have in mind?
Thanks.

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Re: Time Parameter

2010-05-17 Thread Matan Cohen
i think the best way to accomplish that is to perfom the check of 30 minute
in the rexx  (in case you don't want it to go to sleep)
if your rexx performing somthing in this 30 minutes you should add a check
in it of the time like this:

 RC = TIME(R)
 SECS = 1800   /* 1800 second you want them to pass */
 DO FOREVER
   N = TIME(E)/*get the time in second which was pass */
   IF N = SECS THEN LEAVE
 END

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Bruce Hewson bruce_hew...@hotmail.comwrote:

 Hi Gil,

 that is correct, but in my defence I quote my original post:-

 Where SLEEP and QUERYENQ are local programs.

 On Sun, 16 May 2010 09:53:44 -0500, Paul Gilmartin
 paulgboul...@aim.com wrote:

 On Sun, 16 May 2010 00:59:59 -0500, Bruce Hewson wrote:
 
  Address TSO 'SLEEP 1000'
 
 ???
 
 I find no such command in:
 
 URL: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-
 bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ikj4c5a1
 
 Title: z/OS V1R11.0 TSO/E Command Reference
 Document Number: SA22-7782-12
 
 -- gil
 


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Re: RSU Maint and adding ZIIP Feature

2010-05-17 Thread Edward Jaffe

Dazzo, Matt wrote:

We are running z1.9 and I'm getting ready to pull RSU maint for the next 
maintenance cycle. There is also a possibility that we will  upgrade our box 
from z890 to a z10BC with a ZIIP in the not too distant future.  Is there any 
harm at this time in pulling and applying the PTF's for the ZIIP while being on 
the z890? I'd like to be prepared should a box swap happen sooner than 
expected. I would not think so but a double check with this list is comforting.
  


It's a great idea. That support in z/OS gives you the ability to use 
PROJECTCPU to help identify and quantify which work will be zIIP eligible.


We did almost all of our development work to make (E)JES and other 
products run in zIIP-eligible enclave SRBs on a z9 with no zIIP. We used 
PROJECTCPU to prove all was working as expected. When we upgraded to 
z10, we installed a real zIIP at that time.


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Re: Time Parameter

2010-05-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 17 May 2010 17:57:55 +0300, Matan Cohen wrote:

i think the best way to accomplish that is to perfom the check of 30 minute
in the rexx  (in case you don't want it to go to sleep)
if your rexx performing somthing in this 30 minutes you should add a check
in it of the time like this:

 RC = TIME(R)
 SECS = 1800   /* 1800 second you want them to pass */
 DO FOREVER
   N = TIME(E)/*get the time in second which was pass */
   IF N = SECS THEN LEAVE
 END

Only if you aren't charged back for CPU cycles.

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Bruce Hewson wrote:

 that is correct, but in my defence I quote my original post:-

 Where SLEEP and QUERYENQ are local programs.

Apologies; I shot from the hip.

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ICF Catalog performance options

2010-05-17 Thread John Schafer
We are currently reviewing all of the ICF catalog definitions in our shop. All 
of our catalogs are ECS defined. 

Any best pratice or considerations with regard to the following catalog 
performance options beyond the defaults when these are not specified? 

STRNO
BUFND
BUFNI
FREESPACE
RECORDSIZE 

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Re: Time Parameter

2010-05-17 Thread Nick Varley
Sleeping is a lot less hard on your processor, in my opinion...your
code will spin an entire CPU won't it...?  It will be checking as fast
as the processor will let it what the elapsed time is since resetting
the Rexx timer.

I saw this done about 10 years ago when a company moved from an 8-way
Amdahl to a 4-way IBM machine with about the same MIPS...and then found
the new box only had 3/4 of it's power available as this task was
spinning on the 4th engine.  It had not shown up before as it was
limited to 1 out of 8 engines...and it had been doing that for about 2
years, but no-one had noticed.

Anyway, if you want a simple SLEEP program, I can mail you one (it's in
Assembler and is free, with NO support offered under any circumstances)

Best wishes
...Nick

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Sent: 17 May 2010 15:58
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Time Parameter

i think the best way to accomplish that is to perfom the check of 30
minute in the rexx  (in case you don't want it to go to sleep) if your
rexx performing somthing in this 30 minutes you should add a check in it
of the time like this:

 RC = TIME(R)
 SECS = 1800   /* 1800 second you want them to pass */
 DO FOREVER
   N = TIME(E)/*get the time in second which was pass */
   IF N = SECS THEN LEAVE
 END

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Bruce Hewson
bruce_hew...@hotmail.comwrote:

 Hi Gil,

 that is correct, but in my defence I quote my original post:-

 Where SLEEP and QUERYENQ are local programs.

 On Sun, 16 May 2010 09:53:44 -0500, Paul Gilmartin 
 paulgboul...@aim.com wrote:

 On Sun, 16 May 2010 00:59:59 -0500, Bruce Hewson wrote:
 
  Address TSO 'SLEEP 1000'
 
 ???
 
 I find no such command in:
 
 URL: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-
 bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ikj4c5a1
 
 Title: z/OS V1R11.0 TSO/E Command Reference
 Document Number: SA22-7782-12
 
 -- gil
 


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Re: Time Parameter

2010-05-17 Thread Terry Sambrooks
Hi Matan,

With regard to your post on this subject which included:

SNIPPET
RC = TIME(R)
 SECS = 1800   /* 1800 second you want them to pass */
 DO FOREVER
   N = TIME(E)/*get the time in second which was pass */
   IF N = SECS THEN LEAVE
 END
/SNIPPET

As Dustin Hoffman said in Hook, bad form.

Whilst DO FOREVER is in the manual, IBM do not recommend its use.

As Nick correctly points out this will eat CPU cycles, without logically
doing anything productive that could not be accomplished by going to SLEEP
in the manner alluded to in Ted MacNeil's post.

A loop of this type may well be picked up by automation software, with the
task being axed as resource hungry. Waiting (SLEEP) allows other work to use
the processor in a productive fashion, and is much better for overall though
put and service targets.

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UK Seminar on Software Hardware Pricing

2010-05-17 Thread Mark Wilson
Hi,

Just wondering if anyone had to to any of the previous seminars?

Was it worthwhile?

Kind Regards,

Mark 


Negotiating mainframe software and hardware contracts


Arcati¹s annual seminar on mainframe pricing and contract negotiation takes
place on 28th June 2010 at the Premier Inn Touchbase Centre, London
Heathrow. As always, the principal speaker is Barry Graham, an
internationally recognised authority on mainframe pricing issues. Working
with Barry, users with as few as 600 MIPS and as much as 100,000 MIPS have
signed contracts saving up to 30% of their expected spend.
 
This year Barry will be joined by David Wilson, independent consultant and
former IBM senior executive for System z Software in North East Europe, who
will be focusing on what users should do to maximise the benefits of their
current mainframe installations.

Sessions at the seminar include:
* Putting software costs in context
* New pricing models and future costs
* Negotiating an IBM ESSO or ELA contract
* Maximising the benefit of mainframes
* Hardware pricing update

The programme covers pricing for all z10 Enterprise and Business Class
systems, and also includes discussion of Passport Advantage, Processor Value
Units, and their effect on software price/performance.

For full details, go to http://www.arcati.com/mmevent10.
 
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Re: ICF Catalog performance options

2010-05-17 Thread David Andrews
 considerations with regard to the following catalog 
 performance options beyond the defaults

Eileen McClintock has done a presentation at SHARE about catalog tuning.
See if you can find it.  She recommended (in 2007), among other things:

- Don't use anything larger than 8K CI size; this has
  adverse index CI effects.
- Don't use VSAM freespace, and don't reorganize your
  catalog; this undoes the benefits of any splits
  that have already occurred.
- Don't let index CI size default; the system almost
  always selects too small a control interval, which
  leads to “dead” data control intervals that can't
  be used in each control area. Allocate your index
  in cylinders, not tracks.
- Shared catalog volumes kill you. Don't have
  multiple catalogs on the same volume. Don't have
  catalogs on shared volumes, period. In the latter
  case every catalog lookup requires a VVR read,
  regardless of whether the entry has been cached.

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Re: ICF Catalog performance options

2010-05-17 Thread Ken Porowski
There was a feature for AUTOTUNING but back in 2008 IBM recommended
turning it off (OA20748).
I'm not sure if the issues were ever resolved but OA25072 09/2009 turns
it off and disables enabling it.

F CATALOG,REPORT,CATSTATS should show what is currently in use.
 

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John Schafer

We are currently reviewing all of the ICF catalog definitions in our
shop. All of our catalogs are ECS defined. 

Any best pratice or considerations with regard to the following catalog
performance options beyond the defaults when these are not specified? 

STRNO
BUFND
BUFNI
FREESPACE
RECORDSIZE 

Regards,
John

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Re: Time Parameter

2010-05-17 Thread Michel Castelein
On Mon, 17 May 2010 16:59:54 +0100, Nick Varley 
nick.var...@metron.co.uk wrote:

 (snip)

Anyway, if you want a simple SLEEP program, I can mail you one (it's in
Assembler and is free, with NO support offered under any circumstances)


Note that z/OS includes a ready-to-use SLEEP program.

A few lines extracted from the course handouts I distribute when teaching my 
4-day REXX Programming course:

SYSCALL is a host command environment you can use to run USS syscall 
commands from TSO/E or MVS batch.
You need to initialize the SYSCALL environment by beginning a REXX program 
with a SYSCALLS('ON') function call. SYSCALLS is a TSO/E external function.
You must distinguish SYSCALL from SYSCALLS!
sleep is a syscall command that invokes the sleep callable service to suspend
(!) the running of the calling thread (task) until the specified number of 
seconds has elapsed.

/* REXX */
SUBCOM SYSCALL
say 1st 'SUBCOM SYSCALL' -- RC=RC /* RC=1 */
if SYSCALLS(ON) = 0
   then say 'the SYSCALL environment is now established'
   else exit
SUBCOM SYSCALL
say 2nd 'SUBCOM SYSCALL' -- RC=RC /*RC=0 */
say TIME()
address SYSCALL 'sleep 15' /* sleep 15 seconds */
say TIME()
call SYSCALLS OFF /* end the SYSCALL environment */

For the description of my education offering,
see http://www.arcis-services.net

Regards,

Michel Castelein
freelance z/OS instructor

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Re: Benchmarking the IPL

2010-05-17 Thread Arthur Gutowski
On Mon, 17 May 2010 09:38:27 -0500, Roland Schiradin 
rol...@schiradin.de wrote:

Tom,

z/OS contains a cblock IPST pointed by ECVTIPST.

This cblock contains information about the IPL time for various steps.
SHOWzOS display the data and there is also a IPCS command
but can't remember the name.

Roland

IPLDATA STATUS against ACTIVE storage.

Regards,
Art Gutowski
Ford Motor Company

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Re: ICF Catalog performance options

2010-05-17 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 17 May 2010 12:46:42 -0400, David Andrews d...@lists.duda.com wrote:


Eileen McClintock has done a presentation at SHARE about catalog tuning.
See if you can find it.  She recommended (in 2007), among other things:


   - Shared catalog volumes kill you. Don't have
 multiple catalogs on the same volume. Don't have
 catalogs on shared volumes, period. In the latter
 case every catalog lookup requires a VVR read,
 regardless of whether the entry has been cached.


I think you are referring to VVDS mode sharing.  If you have the catalog
in ECS mode, the above isn't true.   

As an aside, it's a little difficult to avoid sharing catalogs between systems
these days.  :-)

I would also add to use VLF instead of ISC for any catalogs that are 
shared (make sure the catalog is defined in COFVLFxx on ALL sharing
systems).  With CDSC, only changed records are invalidated from the 
cache.  With ISC, or a mixture, if any sharing system does an update,
the entire cache is purged.

Mark
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Re: ICF Catalog performance options

2010-05-17 Thread David Andrews
On Mon, 2010-05-17 at 15:09 -0400, Mark Zelden wrote:
 I think you are referring to VVDS mode sharing.  If you have the catalog
 in ECS mode, the above isn't true.   
 
 As an aside, it's a little difficult to avoid sharing catalogs between systems
 these days.  :-)

My notes were from a presentation she made in 2007.  I haven't been to
SHARE in awhile, so maybe Eileen has updated it?

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Re: Time Parameter

2010-05-17 Thread Ron Hawkins
Automation software and loops. Not quite on the topic, but I remember when
some Brainiac implemented automated responses to IEF238D and IEF433D. We
lost almost 25% of a 400E while Net/Master replied WAIT and then NOHOLD as
fast as it could...

Yes, waiting is far more efficient.

 
 A loop of this type may well be picked up by automation software, with the
 task being axed as resource hungry. Waiting (SLEEP) allows other work to
use
 the processor in a productive fashion, and is much better for overall
though
 put and service targets.
 

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Re: Of interest to the Independent Contractors on the list

2010-05-17 Thread Linda Mooney
Hi Charles, 



Right you are.  For my senior project (1979), I personally wrote some very 
non-Y2K compliant COBOL code.  It was a major enhancement to a payroll system 
for a city that was running  a Burroughs 1800 at the time.   They were so short 
on memory that everthing else had to be shut down in order to run payroll.  
Nobody thought about any of the date formats or Y2K at the time and it wouldn't 
have mattered.  The code had to be very lean in order to get it to run on that 
machine.  I'm sure that it was the same way at many other shops too.  That 
payroll system was remediated for Y2K. 



Linda Mooney 


- Original Message - 
From: Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 7:07:58 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: Of interest to the Independent Contractors on the list 

Um ... the Y2K thingie was real. Without the efforts of a lot of the 
people on this list data processing as we know it WOULD have come to an end. 

You're falling into the that saw doesn't need that safety guard fallacy: 
That saw doesn't need that safety guard ... no one has cut a finger off in 
it for years. 

And yes, states ARE looking to crack down on independent contractors. Easy 
money in this time of crunch. 

Charles 

-Original Message- 
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf 
Of Anton Britz 
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 5:12 PM 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 
Subject: Re: Of interest to the Independent Contractors on the list 

This type of article re-appears every two years.. 

It's suppose to make you fear and maybe you will subscribe to their 
magazine. 

Remember the Y2K thing'gie ? 

How many of those Prophets of Doom knew what they were talking about 
but it worked for most executives. 

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Re: Of interest to the Independent Contractors on the list

2010-05-17 Thread Anton Britz

Hi Linda,

Yes, my point was, that it was EXAGGERATED using FEAR for profit purposes.

There was no need to upgrade all the 
Mainframes/Desktops/Servers/Operating systems etc.


The place I worked at, spent 16 Million Dollars, on upgrading all the 
PC's in the Organization and each PC received a Y2K sticker. ( You had 
to have that Sticker)


Note: At home, all my PC's survived the Y2K thing'gie.. Why do a thread 
always go totally the wrong way on IBM-MAIN... with most of it, just 
being noise ?


Anton

On 5/17/2010 5:30 PM, Linda Mooney wrote:

Hi Charles,



Right you are.  For my senior project (1979), I personally wrote some very 
non-Y2K compliant COBOL code.  It was a major enhancement to a payroll system 
for a city that was running  a Burroughs 1800 at the time.   They were so short 
on memory that everthing else had to be shut down in order to run payroll.  
Nobody thought about any of the date formats or Y2K at the time and it wouldn't 
have mattered.  The code had to be very lean in order to get it to run on that 
machine.  I'm sure that it was the same way at many other shops too.  That 
payroll system was remediated for Y2K.



Linda Mooney

   


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Re: Of interest to the Independent Contractors on the list

2010-05-17 Thread Charles Mills
How do you know it was EXAGGERATED using FEAR for profit purposes? 
Exaggerated by whom? Perhaps the executives at your former employer were 
risk-adverse, or saw senior management's attention to Y2K as a chance to 
implement worthwhile equipment upgrades.

Home PCs are different from corporate PCs. I can live with a lot of oddities on 
my home PC that would be unproductive on a corporate PC. For example, I am 
running a lot of unsupported software. I would probably not advise that a 
corporate IT department do that.

 Why do a thread always go totally the wrong way on IBM-MAIN... with most of 
 it, just being noise ?

I don't know. What did your assertion about Y2K have to do with a thread 
offering a tax head-up to independent contractors?

Charles

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
Anton Britz
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 5:12 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Of interest to the Independent Contractors on the list

Hi Linda,

Yes, my point was, that it was EXAGGERATED using FEAR for profit purposes.

There was no need to upgrade all the 
Mainframes/Desktops/Servers/Operating systems etc.

The place I worked at, spent 16 Million Dollars, on upgrading all the 
PC's in the Organization and each PC received a Y2K sticker. ( You had 
to have that Sticker)

Note: At home, all my PC's survived the Y2K thing'gie.. Why do a thread 
always go totally the wrong way on IBM-MAIN... with most of it, just 
being noise ?

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