EDC4052

[Michael Klaeschen]

Hello,

today I tried linking a successfully compiled C++ program but got message 
EDC4052 from cataloged procedure SYS1.PROCLIB(CBCL) in PLKED.SYSPRINT 
DD. Searching IBM Bookmanager for this message did not show even one 
result. Searching google gave a hint to PQ68700. But when following this link 
to IBM, I got "Error Document not found". Also IBM's "Technical help database 
for system z" did not show results, neither for EDC4052 nor for PQ68700.

The message text is 
WARNING EDC4052: Module name TEMPNAME chosen for generated IMPORT 
control statements.

z/OS is V1 R12, 
Prelinker is 5694A01 V1 R12 M0

Do you have an explanation of this message?

Thank you, kind regards
Michael

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Re: Aw: Re: non-module-PDS and VLF

[Mike Schwab]

On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 11:29 PM, Ed Gould  wrote:
---SNIP-
>
> So it's a Catch 22; you'll either complain that the reply is too short
> or that it's too long.
>
> No. :)
>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBZ8ulc5NTg
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Re: Aw: Re: non-module-PDS and VLF

[Ed Gould]

-SNIP---
So it's a Catch 22; you'll either complain that the reply is too short
or that it's too long.

-- 


It is the word word replies (sorry I couldn't resist the first reply). People 
write in whole complete sentences for a complete thought to be conveyed.
I am not an English major but I believe there are very few instances that one 
word sentences that are reasonably allowed.

On the otherhand when you have 1, 2 or more pages then it becomes a government 
document that is bloated beyond recognitition. Take as an example (sorry do not 
have the number off the top of my head). I believe its called the MVS COBOL 
conversion guide (or something close) is close to what I am trying to convey 
here. They manage to take a simple statement and turn into a legalize length 
document that you truly have to be a lawyer to understand. I had many questions 
that were posed to me as a sysprog. It got dizzy about how they so carefully 
worded sentences that you really had to have a lawyer read the damn manual. 
Programmers hated me as I tried to play lawyer (failed miserably mind you).

Some of the replies on here are a lot like that. We shouldn't need a law degree 
to understand them. We are professionals on here and I suspect we all know how 
to read at least at the college level, NOT at a legal level however as I 
suspect 
you know how lawyers can find loop holes in everything. 
Fine if you are a lawyer but don't expect the rest of us to understand or even 
want to take the time to decipher and analyze a email that does not convey 
useful information. Its great if you are billing per hour but we don't get paid 
that way. Most of us read IBM-MAIN at work (I guess) and reading long entries 
does not enhance our productivity. If there are a few of you that read it other 
places then I guess you can afford the effort to do so.

Ed

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Re: Aw: Re: non-module-PDS and VLF

[Ed Gould]

---SNIP-

So it's a Catch 22; you'll either complain that the reply is too short
or that it's too long.



No. :)

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Re: DMS Archive rename

[Linda Mooney]

I have worked with Dean White in the past and he is excellent.  I also do not 
know if he is still available.  I think the Don Bell is still available.  I 
have worked with him a number of times - the last time about a year, maybe two 
ago.  He is truly excellent as well.  When you open your issue, you could 
request either of them. 



As for what you are trying to accomplish, we don't do that, so I can be of no 
help with it.  We tend to have very few individual datasets, groups at my shop 
write to shared HLQs, plus our most junior sysprog has somewhere between 15-20 
years in. 



Hope that Helps, 



Linda 

  
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Horein"  
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2011 10:50:31 AM 
Subject: Re: DMS Archive rename 

I don't know if he's still around, but Dean White at CA support is an 
excellent resource for information when it comes to CA-Disk. If there's a 
way to accomplish what you need to do, I would imagine Dean would know how 
to do it. 

On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Itschak Mugzach  wrote: 

> While removing a user from the system, we archive his datasets with a new 
> name using DMS (Also known as CA-Disk). We discovered that the user may 
> already have datasets in the archive under his original HLQ. We don't want 
> to restore the datasets in order to rename them. 
> 
> The alternative is a 2 phase process which involves  a reorg of the control 
> file, specifying RENDSNEX exit name to rename removed userid's datasets and 
> a catalog rename. 
> 
> I wonder if someone ever userd this process in order to archive deleted 
> users datasets (or, hear how you handle this). 
> 
> Itschak 
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Re: Aw: Re: non-module-PDS and VLF

[Ron Hawkins]

Shmuel,

Not really. 

One could complain that there are some on the list that reply frequently,
but don't actually add anything of value to the subject when they do. 

That works for short and long responses.

Ron

> 
> So it's a Catch 22; you'll either complain that the reply is too short
> or that it's too long.
> 
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>  ISO position; see 
> We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress.
> (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003)
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Re: Trademarks (was: "Under z/OS Unix")

[Charles Mills]

> Are trademarks case-sensitive?

In all seriousness, trademark infringement is not so cut-and-dried as, say,
filenames (e.g., UNIX filenames are case sensitive, Windows filenames are
not.). The test is would a potential purchaser in the relevant market be
likely to be confused. For consumer products, the courts presume a pretty
dumb consumer. You could not open a restaurant and get away with calling it
macdonalds (or, for that matter, McDonald's or MacDonal's or MacDonelds). 

I'm not a trademark attorney. I believe prior use figures into any claim of
infringement. I believe Apple in all seriousness would face a substantial
risk in going after IBM for ishell. The risk is that the courts would decide
that the iWhatever trademarks were not valid because these other technology
iSomething usages preceded the Apple iProducts. Such a decision would throw
the door open to every manufacturer being able to use i names for their
products.

Charles

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf
Of Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 12:37 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Trademarks (was: "Under z/OS Unix")

On Thu, 12 May 2011 10:38:39 -0500, John McKown wrote:

>IBM will soon be forced to change ISHELL to some other name, I'm sure.
>Because Apple will be suing them for having something computer related 
>which starts with an "i". This will cause confusion in the marketplace 
>for Apple products. Speaking of which, the I in IBM needs to change by 
>the same logic.
>
And Intel?  But they now cooperate with Apple, as IBM formerly did.

But I really wonder, if there's a conflict between "zFS" and "ZFS"
whether either side has an enforceable trademark?  Are trademarks
case-sensitive?

-- gil

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Re: "Under z/OS Unix"

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Sun, 15 May 2011 12:34:06 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:

>In , on 05/12/2011
>   at 11:29 AM, Paul Gilmartin said:
>
>>o It allows function reference before definition,
>
>I consider that an advantage.
>
Perhaps in a programming language, but not if functions are
first-class objects as in POSIX shell or PostScript (but
structured programming fanatics have reason to dislike such
a facility); certainly not in an interactive shell.  (Well,
I suppose if a shell encountered a reference to an undefined
function it might prompt for the definition.)

>>so a typo in a
>>  function name would cause the interpreter to swallow all input
>>  looking for the definition.
>
>No.
>
Yes.  But hypothetical and moot because Rexx as constituted on z/OS
ingests the entire script before interpreting any of it.  Unacceptable
behavior for an interactive shell.

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Re: DFSORT E35 problem

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <4dcea463.5010...@trainersfriend.com>, on 05/14/2011
   at 09:48 AM, Steve Comstock  said:

>Curious about your email address domain name, I plugged in
>'reinken.us' into my web browser and was sent to a GoDaddy page that
>asks "Want to buy this domain name?"

>What's up with that?

Sleazy marketing practices, including a deliberately broken DNS
server. I suspect that it violates their contract with ICANN, and were
I David I'd be looking into that as well as changing registrars.
 
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Re: "Under z/OS Unix"

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In , on 05/12/2011
   at 11:29 AM, Paul Gilmartin  said:

>o It allows function reference before definition,

I consider that an advantage.

>so a typo in a
>  function name would cause the interpreter to swallow all input
>  looking for the definition.

No.

>o It lacks an Include,

That I do consider to be a serious flaw.

>(Well I understand Object Rexx has one.

REQUIRE is not the same as include. Whether it is better, worse or
just different is an argument for another thread.
 
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Re: "Under z/OS Unix"

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In
,
on 05/12/2011
   at 04:54 PM, "Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)"
 said:

>I don't get what youre asking me?

Your original statement was

"People primarily using TSO foreground" will not gain much
from their 3270 experience, because UNIX shell command line is
so much different from TSO/ISPF that you better start to learn
it and then feel comfortable working in that other environment.

The Unix syntax is the same whether the commands come from a Telnet
session or from the TSO OMVS command.

>IIRC, it was about working in a UNIX shell environment that was
>established via TSO/OMVS versus SSH/rlogin/telnet environment.

Yes, which is why I questioned it - the syntax is the same in both.
That's why I thought that you might have meant ISHELL vs Telnet rather
than OMVS vs Telnet.
 
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Re: Aw: Re: non-module-PDS and VLF

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <488338.78331...@web161408.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, on 05/13/2011
   at 09:57 PM, Ed Gould  said:

>We seem to have a at least on contributor that answers with one word
>answers and  you are left puzzling what he really means half the time
>that you have to spend  30 minutes analyzing the response. Its to the
>point that you just ignore short  replies. Then on the otherside we
>have several people who can spend yards of  replies and trying to
>follow some of the responses is as bad as the one word 
>responses.

So it's a Catch 22; you'll either complain that the reply is too short
or that it's too long.
 
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Re: DMS Archive rename

[Steve Horein]

I don't know if he's still around, but Dean White at CA support is an
excellent resource for information when it comes to CA-Disk. If there's a
way to accomplish what you need to do, I would imagine Dean would know how
to do it.

On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Itschak Mugzach  wrote:

> While removing a user from the system, we archive his datasets with a new
> name using DMS (Also known as CA-Disk). We discovered that the user may
> already have datasets in the archive under his original HLQ. We don't want
> to restore the datasets in order to rename them.
>
> The alternative is a 2 phase process which involves  a reorg of the control
> file, specifying RENDSNEX exit name to rename removed userid's datasets and
> a catalog rename.
>
> I wonder if someone ever userd this process in order to archive deleted
> users datasets (or, hear how you handle this).
>
> Itschak
>
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SHARE Wants Your z/OS User Experiences

[Edward Jaffe]

Mainframiacs,

User experience sessions at SHARE are among the most valuable and well-attended 
sessions at the conference. They have been at the very core and foundation of 
SHARE since 1955 and continue to differentiate SHARE from other System z 
conferences. Participating in one of these sessions is a great way to connect 
with and help your peers in the System z community, just as you have learned 
from others at prior SHARE conferences. SHARE appreciates your contribution and 
rewards you with discount registration.


The SHARE MVS Core Technologies Project still needs volunteers willing to 
participate with one or more fellow presenters in the following sessions 
currently scheduled for SHARE in Orlando, Aug 7-12, 2011:


- z/OS 1.12 User Experience
- IBM zEnterprise z196 User Experience
- IBM zEnterprise System z Blade Extension (zBX) User Experience
- z/OSMF User Experience
- PARMLIB Successful Practices
- Successful Practices for Installing and Rolling Out Maintenance

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SHARE, Inc

Phoenix Software International, Inc
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El Segundo, CA 90245
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Re: USS webserver downloading .xls (html) file corrupt/bad format

[Nagesh S]

In your AddType, is the MIME type of MS Excel correct ?

Related :
http://www.idug.org/solutions-journal-content/idug-e-bulletin-september-2010.html#N2005A

N

On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Naqvi Aman  wrote:

> Thanks Steve,
>
> I'm one step closer now after adding the following to my httpd.conf:
>
> AddType  .xls  text/plain  ebcdic  1.0 # XLS
> document
> But now instead of Iexplorer proposing to open the document in Microsoft
> Excel, it reads it and displays the contents of the html/xml in the browser.
>
> I think easiest will be to simply put a link to save the target file and
> open it under Windows. Unless you have a different suggestion.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Aman Naqvi
>
>
> > Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 16:27:16 -0600
> > From: st...@trainersfriend.com
> > Subject: Re: USS webserver downloading .xls (html) file corrupt/bad
> format
> > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> >
> > On 5/14/2011 3:32 PM, Naqvi Aman wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I have a requirment to update a MS Excel spreadsheet with data residing
> on the mainframe. For this I have saved the excel file in html/xml format,
> and transferred it on to the mainframe where I can edit its contents via a
> batch process. I store the file under USS, and via a webserver, allow the
> possibilty for people to download it and view it in Microsoft Excel.
> > >
> > > The issue I am facing is that once I download the file from the USS
> location, Microsoft Excel opens the file but there seems to be a problem
> with the text translation and all I see is unreadable characters. If I
> transfer the file via a tool (filezilla), I dont have any problems reading
> the file in Excel.
> > >
> > > Anyone have any similar experiences and any hints to solving this
> issue?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Aman Naqvi
> >
> > I suspect it is an issue of your file name and conversion mappings.
> > What suffix does your file name have? For example, In our httpd.conf
> > file I added:
> >
> > AddType  .xml  text/xml  ebcdic  1.0 # XML
> document
> >
> >
> > Alternatively, you could add an extra extension to your file names.
> > For example, I have some Unicode encoded xhtml files; if I name
> > them 'file_name.xhtml.ascii' they get transmitted without code
> > page conversion and they can open fine in a browser.
> >
> > Finally, if you're using cascading style sheets, you need to know
> > the default is set wrong (in my opinion) so you want:
> >
> > AddType  .css  text/css  ebcdic  1.0 # W3C Cascading Style
> Sheets
> >
> > (the supplied default is '8bit' instead of ebcdic)
> >
> >
> >
> > HTH.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > -Steve Comstock
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> >
> > 303-393-8716
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Re: USS webserver downloading .xls (html) file corrupt/bad format

[Naqvi Aman]

Thanks Steve,

I'm one step closer now after adding the following to my httpd.conf:

AddType  .xls  text/plain  ebcdic  1.0 # XLS 
document
But now instead of Iexplorer proposing to open the document in Microsoft Excel, 
it reads it and displays the contents of the html/xml in the browser. 

I think easiest will be to simply put a link to save the target file and open 
it under Windows. Unless you have a different suggestion.

Thanks,

Aman Naqvi


> Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 16:27:16 -0600
> From: st...@trainersfriend.com
> Subject: Re: USS webserver downloading .xls (html) file corrupt/bad format
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> 
> On 5/14/2011 3:32 PM, Naqvi Aman wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have a requirment to update a MS Excel spreadsheet with data residing on 
> > the mainframe. For this I have saved the excel file in html/xml format, and 
> > transferred it on to the mainframe where I can edit its contents via a 
> > batch process. I store the file under USS, and via a webserver, allow the 
> > possibilty for people to download it and view it in Microsoft Excel.
> >
> > The issue I am facing is that once I download the file from the USS 
> > location, Microsoft Excel opens the file but there seems to be a problem 
> > with the text translation and all I see is unreadable characters. If I 
> > transfer the file via a tool (filezilla), I dont have any problems reading 
> > the file in Excel.
> >
> > Anyone have any similar experiences and any hints to solving this issue?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Aman Naqvi
> 
> I suspect it is an issue of your file name and conversion mappings.
> What suffix does your file name have? For example, In our httpd.conf
> file I added:
> 
> AddType  .xml  text/xml  ebcdic  1.0 # XML 
> document
> 
> 
> Alternatively, you could add an extra extension to your file names.
> For example, I have some Unicode encoded xhtml files; if I name
> them 'file_name.xhtml.ascii' they get transmitted without code
> page conversion and they can open fine in a browser.
> 
> Finally, if you're using cascading style sheets, you need to know
> the default is set wrong (in my opinion) so you want:
> 
> AddType  .css  text/css  ebcdic  1.0 # W3C Cascading Style Sheets
> 
> (the supplied default is '8bit' instead of ebcdic)
> 
> 
> 
> HTH.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> -Steve Comstock
> The Trainer's Friend, Inc.
> 
> 303-393-8716
> http://www.trainersfriend.com
> 
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DMS Archive rename

[Itschak Mugzach]

While removing a user from the system, we archive his datasets with a new
name using DMS (Also known as CA-Disk). We discovered that the user may
already have datasets in the archive under his original HLQ. We don't want
to restore the datasets in order to rename them.

The alternative is a 2 phase process which involves  a reorg of the control
file, specifying RENDSNEX exit name to rename removed userid's datasets and
a catalog rename.

I wonder if someone ever userd this process in order to archive deleted
users datasets (or, hear how you handle this).

Itschak

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