Re: Where can you get a Minor in Mainframe?

2006-11-17 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
OK, if we're going to start the who is the grayest in the crowd, let me 
toss in my hat.

1968 - started correspondence classes in IBM through American Automation 
Training Center, Columbus, Ohio.
1969 - residence in same. Learned 402/403, punch, interpreter, PL/1, RPG, 
COBOL, etc.

Due to a little interruption called Viet Nam didn't actually start 
twiddling bits until December 73.

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Re: Where can you get a Minor in Mainframe?

2006-11-17 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
I know there are lots of folks out there who surpass my time in the field. 
It's always fun to see what types of responses we can elicit.

Our entire mainframe support staff here for the systems side is in the 50+ 
bracket, and that is a kind estimate. 

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Re: Where can you get a Minor in Mainframe?

2006-11-17 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
We didn't have punched cards, we had chiseled rocks. A sort took 40 people 
all day...

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Re: IE7 ? Experiences or otherwise.

2006-11-16 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
We were told not to download on our work systems because of problems with 
some applications. I use it at home with no ill results.

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Re: IE7 ? Experiences or otherwise.

2006-11-16 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
IE7 leads to another question. Do you use pop-up stoppers or spy-bot 
sweepers or adaware sweepers?

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Re: link to a real, working IBMLINK ?

2006-11-14 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
I've been in and out of the manuals area several times today and have had 
0 problems with the PDF stuff. Are you being limited at your site by the 
network settings?

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Re: IBMLINK Failures -- Attention of IBM Management

2006-11-14 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Ah, peaceful resistance.

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Re: IBMLINK Failures -- Attention of IBM Management

2006-11-14 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
So if Alan is from z/VM and we are not alone in the wilderness, he must be 
the pillar of smoke.

h

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Re: ARC0103I when adding STK VSM to virtual tape esoteric.

2006-11-14 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Currently most of our HSM work is going to an IBM virtual tape system.
We 
are in the process of migrating off of IBM and going to STK.  To get a 
jump on this we decided we would add the STK Virtual Tape drives to the 
Esoteric that's currently used by for the IBM VTS.  When we did this HSM


  Looking at the above, why not have a separate esoteric for the STK 
drives? HSM can know the difference. Set up STK for output, then do a mass 
recycle from the IBM side.

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Re: IBMLINK Failures -- Attention of IBM Management

2006-11-14 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Nope, not the man behind the curtain. Think Exodus.

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Re: IBMLINK Failures -- Attention of IBM Management

2006-11-14 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Thanks, Steve. I should have known better, but was thinking of fire by 
night.

  I am now ending my responses to this off-subject thread...

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Re: Maximum DDStatements in a Job and/or Step

2006-11-13 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
guptae wrote:
Hi , 


MAX. NO OF DD STATEMENTS IN A JOB:3273 
MAXIMUM NUMBER OF STEPS IN A JOB=255



Taken from: http://www.ibmmainframes.com/post-52810.html

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In A Box - Fini (Was All Boxed Up)

2006-11-10 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
The condition was caused by the bottom part of the controller/tape unit 
being powered off. Naive me thought that when one recycled the power on a 
tape unit like that all components and sub-components would come up.

Time + $$ consumed on this was ridiculous. Two senior level sysprogs 
fighting messages. 1 hardware engineer talking us through a service 
element diagnosis for over an hour, and then finally coming to the site.

Been messing with this stuff for over 30 years and that beat all I've ever 
seen with a hardware issue.

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Re: In A Box - Fini (Was All Boxed Up)

2006-11-10 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
I guess we can all take a tip from squatty box support.   snipped

Yeah, the BSOD ain't elegant, but at least you know there is a problem.

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Re: In A Box - Fini (Was All Boxed Up)

2006-11-10 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Good idea, Ed. We're about to upgrade that particular box to the higher 
density drives, which should prompt a microcode update as well. I'll 
insist that the CE check that out.

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All Boxed Up

2006-11-09 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Tried to hit the archives to look for similar conditions, but it seems to 
be running a bit sluggishly this morning.

Situation: Operator somehow hit the enable interface switch on a bank of 
3590 drives. They went boxed and no matter what we have done, we cannot 
get them back. We have powered off/on the bank of drives, toggled chips, 
varied with various forms of vary for chipds and devices, all to no avail.

Online doc says call hardware support. Could something have tripped inside 
the unit to require an engineer to reset?

Thank you in advance...

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Re: All Boxed Up

2006-11-09 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Yep...all them options. Just IPL'd the sandbox to see could we get them up 
there. Same results.

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...varied with various forms of vary...

Including VARY device(s),ONLINE,UNCOND?

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Re: All Boxed Up

2006-11-09 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
We've about exhausted the MVS type commands, next will be the HMC 
approach.

Thank you for the suggestion.

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Re: All Boxed Up

2006-11-09 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
What about the Enable on the Magstar console?
---
OK, that's a new one for mewhat would that look like because I don't 
think we have one.

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Re: All Boxed Up

2006-11-09 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
We've just spent 45 minutes on phone with the CE. He conceded and is on 
his way in.

Thank you all for many good suggestions. Sometimes things break.

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Re: CA Solve : Access V4R0 FTS V3R0 and Unicenter NetMaster 7.0 under z/OS 1.7

2006-11-08 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
If nothing else, the vendor, CA, has a matrix of what OS will support 
which product.

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Re: Assembler question

2006-11-07 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Don't write as much assembler as I used to, but my personal feeling always 
has been write it for the next PDS who will have to maintain it. I've 
picked up too much code of various stripes where the person thought X1, 
X2, etc., made good variable names. 
Then there was the one who indexed everything off registers.

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Re: Assembler question

2006-11-07 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
With good documentation, I can agree. But when the documentation is 
nonexistent, using some variable names like X1, or I, is just mean!

The X1 guy never had his feet held to the flame by his boss, and guess who 
was the first to bail when word of the company sale came out? Next, guess 
who the PDB was who picked up the programs?

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On Tue, 2006-11-07 at 10:52 -0500, Daniel A. McLaughlin wrote:
 picked up too much code of various stripes where the person thought X1, 
 X2, etc., made good variable names.

Oh, don't be too hard on them.  To this day I use loop counters I,
J, K... a holdover from my ForTran days, uncountable years ago.

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Re: IBM Support Phone Number (USA)?

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Re: IBM Support Phone Number (USA)?

2006-11-07 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Don't touch your moustache!

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Re: IBMLink (Internet) Out to Lunch again?

2006-11-07 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
The staff went out to vote?

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Re: IBMLink (Internet) Out to Lunch again?

2006-11-07 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Maybe it ought to run on Linux in a Z-box

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Re: HSM DELVOL

2006-11-06 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Have you checked the EDM options in TLMS?

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Re: FW: The PSI Letter V4

2006-11-03 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
The PSI letter is intriguing. Will it reduce software costs? Will it 
perform as well as its Big Blue cousin? Will it become a very viable 
alternative to the server farm?

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Re: Linux Experiences?

2006-11-02 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Snippet: 
Most customers are using SuSE because they were the really the first out 
of
the box.  Redhat resisted having OCO (OSA drivers) in their distributions.
Redhat is now gaining ground on SuSE. 
End Snippet

  User leaning toward Linux (RedHat) in its own LPAR. We already have 
Z/VM, but the concern is about costs, speed, iplementation, etc.

  Would anyone care to comment? Oh, I sent him the info on how to get into 
the LINUX group, which I may do depending on how far this thing goes.

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Re: Mainframe News

2006-10-31 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
My green screen never got the blue screen of death or a virus

However, word processing using a PC is easier than using Script was to 
write documentation.

Toolboxes need more than hammers.

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Re: IBMLINK down again

2006-10-31 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Client/Server = 20,000 chickens pulling a plow.

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Re: Linux Experiences?

2006-10-31 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Looks like the Linux under VM project is about to kick off. The user wants 
to move an Oracle application onto our Z/890 using that scenario.

Out of curiosity, is there a preponderance of one Linux over another under 
VM? One of the Redbooks discusses SUSE, other signs point towards Redhat.

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Re: NEVERMIND :Question on extending a VSAM ESDS

2006-10-31 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
 Dumb coding error.  Was trying to CLOSE it twice, instead of a CLOSE 
followed by an OPEN. 

No, you were simply eliminating a method that didn't work. Thomas Edison 
used the same process to create his light bulb.

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Re: SHARE in Tampa Florida, February 11-16, 2007

2006-10-26 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin

Z/OS 1.9 sounds like an innocent error.
We should not be quick to zap if someone makes a faux pas.

What about a code name like pterodactyl?



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Re: FileSeq Number on Tape

2006-10-24 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Don't know about all that, I use (01, 02, 15, etc) with no problem.

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Re: FileSeq Number on Tape

2006-10-24 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
My response was vague. I use those numbers primarily with JCL DD. 

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Linux Experiences?

2006-10-23 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin

Question came up here about moving to
Linux from a host of servers.

1. Have any of you experienced this?
2. Did you go native LINUX or
3. Multiple issues of Linux under Z/VM?

Not really in need of technical answers,
just basic why you did what you did, if you are willing to share.

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Re: Resume cover letters.

2006-10-20 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin

And would it matter what your bank was
called? I've dealt with one that has been acquired up the chain three times.
Fleecem and Run Savings and Trust might be Bread, Butter, and Toast (BBT)
tomorrow unless it's a mega-bank.



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Re: IBM 3Q2006 Earnings: Mainframes Strong (Again)

2006-10-18 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin

And they want YOU to pay THEM for the privilege


Case in point. Recruiting firm tried
to lure me by calling my wife since it was close to her hometown.

Company offer: $15k paycut, a check
for $5k to move my house from one state to another.

Nope



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Re: Storage Philosophy Question

2006-10-16 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Considering the numbers of things that can go wrong, I think we're all 
susceptible to some sort of disaster. 9/11 alone proves that out.

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Re: $T PROCLIB

2006-10-16 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Personally, I'd build a new PROCLIB, copy everything into it, adjust my 
JES2 startup PROC and re-ipl.

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Send In The Clones

2006-10-12 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Good day to all.
We are preparing for ZOS 1.7 and need to move a ton of maintenance for our 
1.4 system prior to the IPL. The philosophy in play here was developed 
under the cloak of secrecy and, personally, it's been a long time since 
I've had to clone a new set of residence packs. Would anyone care to share 
some hints/tips/clues on your methods? It may seem like SYSPROG 101 to 
some, but I've not had to do this process in quite some time.

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Re: Send In The Clones

2006-10-12 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
RE: Archives

I will do so, Tom. Thank you for your advice.

(like many, I don't often think of that first)




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Re: How is the mainframe like the opera?

2006-10-11 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Why is this thread like the opera?

Just when you think it's about to wrap up, it starts up again.

Send in the fat lady and let her sing.




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Re: Another BIG Mainframe Bites the Dust

2006-10-10 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
As for the remarks from the gentleman from Samsung, very well written and 
explained without apologies. He said it worked for them. Now how many 
CEO's have seen that are contemplating the same thing?

Could part of the fear of big iron be the age of the caretakers along with 
the burgeoning cost of the software needed to run them? If a company has a 
historical growth rate of 4% per annum and has to look at a major 
technology refresh in the processing area every 5-7 years (being generous 
there), then how long before they hit that plateau where the cost to 
sustain the system by personnel and software is truly onerous?

I'd like to think there will be a mainframe somewhere to keep me fed until 
December 31, 2018, but is that realistic? Maybe not so much as in the 
80's.




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Re: What's a programming language

2006-10-10 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Snipped: And according to this JCL is not a programming language, correct?

  Well, the L being language is more a bit of convenient identity. It 
could just as easily have been JCC - Job Control Constructs, or JCS - Job 
Control Statements. I tend to think of a programming language as commands 
or instructions that act on data for some sort of manipulation. It's easy 
to get wrapped up in semantics like in music. Ab and G# are the same note, 
but it depends on if you are ascending or descending.

  So, does the term programming language become vague, or precise? Is LISP 
a PL? Is REXX a PL? What about Algol or JOVIAL? I think it really boils 
down to personal experience and personal preference.




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Re: What's a programming language

2006-10-10 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
What about REXX as an alternative?

Well, there are limitations...so is JCL really all that bad?




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Re: help with 878-10

2006-10-09 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Explanation: The error occurred when the system was trying to do one of 
the following: 
Satisfy a request made through the STORAGE macro 
Process an RU or VRU form of the GETMAIN macro 
Process an RU form of the FREEMAIN macro 
A reason code in the SDWACRC field of the system diagnostic work area 
(SDWA) explains the error: 
Code Explanation 
04 
There is not enough virtual system queue area (SQA) storage available to 
satisfy the request. 
08 
There is not enough virtual common service area (CSA) storage available to 
satisfy the request. 
0C 
There is not enough virtual local system queue area (LSQA) storage 
available to satisfy the request. 
10 
There is not enough virtual private area storage available to satisfy the 
request. This is due to one of the following: 
A program is requesting virtual storage, but not subsequently freeing the 
storage. 
The region size specified is too small. 
An installation exit is requesting virtual storage from a V=R region 
before initialization of the region has completed. 

Programmer Response: A complete dump is necessary to diagnose this out of 
storage condition. If no dump was produced, SLIPs should be set to obtain 
a dump on problem recurrence. Further debugging information may be found 
in Informational APAR II05506. An abend 80A can cause this same condition, 
so both SLIPs should be set as follows: 

   SLIP SET,COMP=878,A=SVCD,SDATA=(ALLNUC,
PSA,SQA,CSA,LPA,TRT,LSQA,RGN),END


   SLIP SET,COMP=80A,A=SVCD,SDATA=(ALLNUC,
PSA,SQA,CSA,LPA,TRT,LSQA,RGN),END



Also, depending on the reason code, do one of the following: 
10 
Try increasing the region size specified in the region parameter on the 
JOB or EXEC statement in the JCL for the job. However, if the cause of the 
problem is actually that a program is requesting virtual storage and not 
freeing it, the abend will recur when the program uses the virtual storage 
in the larger region. 




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Re: help with 878-10

2006-10-09 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Chris,
  No, I'm sorry, I didn't pick up on that. 




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Re: How is the mainframe like the opera?

2006-10-09 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
It is becoming one big voracious vicious cycle and I know my boss tears 
his hair out every month reconciling numbers.

New mainframe, lower cost of power, maintenance.
  Higher horsepower, more costs for software.
  CIO hates the budget, wants to whack it and send it all to the tinker 
toy brigade.
  Add more servers, sooner or later add more people and the money has 
shifted, yet not decreased.

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Re: What's a programming language

2006-10-09 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
I like, to paraphrase from way back in time: A sequence of vague 
instructions and obscure algorithms employed to manipulate data from 
various sources into reports of dubious usage to be foisted upon disparate 
organizations that were crazy enough to ask for them in the first place.




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Re: FW:A Letter To The FLEX-ES Community

2006-10-06 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Million Intructions Per SECOND! 

   OR

  Meaningless Indicator of Processor Speed




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Re: z/OS downloads

2006-10-05 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Snippets::
  BTW, you *do* know that pills are not downloadable?  Even though they 
are 
required?  They are also priced.  Obviously.  [Official name is IBM 
toleration feature.  :-) ] 

  But, however, you can't download pills unless you have cookies enabled!




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Re: Does SMS complex, SMSplex, require GRS

2006-10-03 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Having just stumbled down the same road, it starts with the RACF 
permissions job. Inside is default user IBMUSER which needs to be changed 
to the ID used for the installation.

I actually massaged RACF on my driving system by hand until I beat it into 
submission.




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Re: RACF simple doubt ...

2006-10-03 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
It has it by being allowed at the superior level, if the original rule was 
alter for PROD.*.**




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Operations Schedules

2006-10-03 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
My boss asked me to find out information on how other sites schedule their 
folks for the operations area.

Number of shifts per day:
Average number of operators on duty:
Length of shift:
Rotation frequency:

  All information will be kept strictly confidential. Your company name 
will not be included in any messages sent to my boss and will not be shared 
with anyone else either.

  If you would like to respond offlist, that is fine.

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Re: Job Descriptions

2006-10-03 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Funny how this went from a request for job descriptions to stories about 
Texas.




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New System SMPe

2006-10-03 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Any suggestions on when in the install/pre-ipl/first ipl phase to receive 
the RSU tape?

I responded earlier to a lister who was having allocation problems. If 
your RACF on the driving system isn't up to snuff, you'll get these 
errors. Run the RACF job using the USERID of the installer in the place of 
IBMUSER and make sure that it is clean. I wound up massaging my driving 
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ZOS 1.7 Install Gotcha

2006-09-29 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
If you don't have enough RACF clout, allocations will get you.
If you don't have enough time/lines in your ALLOC job, that will get you 
as well.

Maybe clear to the rest of you, but this is my first out-of-the-box 
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Re: Linkage Editor

2006-09-29 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Isn't that now called the binder?




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1.7 Install RACF

2006-09-28 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Greetings to All,
  I'm doing my 1.7 install and keep ramming into the wall in RACF. I want 
my SSA to be CPACZ17 but RACF won't add that as a group. I've had our RACF 
guy look into it, but he doesn't see anything that really sticks out. We 
get this:

ADDGROUP CPACZ17 SUPGROUP(SYS1) 
IKJ56702I INVALID GROUP, CPACZ17 

Then the allocation for the SYS1.RACFxxx datasets doesn't happen either.

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Re: 1.7 Install RACF

2006-09-28 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
There is no user CPACZ17 and there is no user CPAC which was the 
previously used SSA for another install done before my time.




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Re: 1.7 Install RACF

2006-09-28 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Well, I tried to add stuff by hand it RACF and see this now. (Am I making 
progress? Quien sabe!)

ICH408I USER(DMMCLA1 ) GROUP(SYS1) NAME(DANIEL MCLAUGHLIN   )  
  CPACZ17.SYS1.RACF CL(DATASET ) VOL(Z11CT2)  
  DEFINE - RESOURCE NOT PROTECTED  
IEF344I DMMCLAL ALCONTIG RACFPRIM - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA FACILITY 
SYSTE
IGD17012I USER NOT AUTHORIZED TO DEFINE DATA SET  
CPACZ17.SYS1.RACF  
DADSM HISTORIC RETURN CODE IS 172 DADSM DIAGNOSTIC INFORMATION IS 040E0804 
 
IEF272I DMMCLAL ALCONTIG - STEP WAS NOT EXECUTED.  




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Re: SVM4000I

2006-09-27 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Check his disposition parms. Maybe his will delete it even if it's there.




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Re: SDSF Display

2006-09-26 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Isn't that the ST option?




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Re: EE Pdf

2006-09-26 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Vague reference. Please elaborate.




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Re: Overhead caused by LE options with (XREF, MAP, LET)

2006-09-26 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
??? Snipped
I would be 99.9% certain that they have no effect on run-time performance,
except that LET might lead to S0C1s and such. They have a HUGE effect on
compiler performance. XREF may double the amount of output produced, and
that will double the EXCPs, and certainly increase the CPU cycles. Similar
for MAP.
 end

  I guess it depends on how much importance one places on the XREF and so 
on. If the program is in development, it might be very handy. If it's a 
recompile for a new release, maybe not so much. 




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Re: Overhead caused by LE options with (XREF, MAP, LET)

2006-09-26 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
I understand the OP asked about overhead. My implication was do you value 
XREF enough to withstand the overhead. Not trying to start a thread-war, 
just a poorly stated response on my part.




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Re: SDSF Question

2006-09-22 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Isn't it like that other operating system that runs the computers that 
people can pick up? Wouldn't you have to do a power on/reset to stop it?

Back to Friday...




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Re: SYS1.BRODCAST security?

2006-09-22 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
SNIP
It is documented in SAG (RACF Security Admin. Guide) Appendix: Security 
for System Data Sets.
However the recommendation has changed. Now (z/OS 1.7) it is READ.
I suspect the change is because of application changes - you can define 
personal BRODCAST datasets.
END SNIP

 Did this same thing at another site to eliminate the BRODCAST synch thing 
and it worked very well. Then you can set the SYS1 to some level of 
security to make the ever so insightful auditors FDH.




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Re: VTOC trashed?

2006-09-22 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
I would attempt to migrate as much data off as possible, or backing up, 
before anything else.




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Re: IPL with future date

2006-09-21 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
  We did an extensive date progression test for Y2K. We went to the DR 
site, rented extra time, and played with it for a week. 

I'm fairly certain we got extended keys from our vendors to avoid that 
problem. Once we started moving forward, though, we never fell back.

Beware the SIBW!!!




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Re: Interesting Challenge

2006-09-21 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Why to alter CBRUXENT? What TMS?  snipped

As it turns out, we didn't have to change the exit. I entered the tape and 
TLMS allowed the mount with no squawking.




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Re: ICKDSF ERASE VOLUME Too Slow

2006-09-20 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
No, seriously.  What's a RAMAC 3 worth today?  snippage

How much is the data that is on the RAMAC 3 worth is probably the 
underlying question.




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Re: ICKDSF ERASE VOLUME Too Slow

2006-09-20 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
However one of the methods to erase data is to destroy the media. 
Destroying disk modules could be quite easy.

I understand that, but in a litigious world, and with SOX, etc., there may 
be a directive to purge before destruction.




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Re: ICKDSF ERASE VOLUME Too Slow

2006-09-20 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
My only intent was to play devil's advocate on this. Case in point. We had 
the last active Honeywell 800 in the Air Force. It used 1 metal reel 
tapes with plastic leaders. We started to run low, the call went out and 
we got about 10,000 in from another site. We started out to check all 
headers, etc. In the meantime a new RJE style machine went in and the 800 
was immediately useless. But now we had close to 20,000 tapes to dispense 
of. We started out degaussing them, but at 1-2 minutes per tape, it was 
tedious and very time intensive. (Cut off leader, degauss tape, reband, 
pack, etc.)

Finally cooler heads prevailed and the consensus was who in the world was 
going to read a 1 tape?

So while I suggest purge before destruction, you can see where some 
thought processes run.

The recent spate of itinerant laptops makes one stop to think.




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Interesting Challenge

2006-09-20 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
We got in our 1.7 order, 3 compressed 3590 tapes. Challenge: we have no 
external drives capable of this density. If the tapes have internal 
labels, and I have no matching bar-coded external labels to affix to them, 
how can I read them in my ATL?




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Re: Interesting Challenge

2006-09-20 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Thanks to Mark I have an answer!




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Re: Interesting Challenge

2006-09-20 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
The answer is:
  Go to the operator console on the ATL, hit the Commands pull down. 
Select Insert Unlabeled Cartridges, enter the VOLSER to be used in the 
related cell slot for the convenience door, and load the tapes in there in 
that order. Select OK and away it goes. When it's done, cancel out.

  Gotta love this job!




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Re: Interesting Challenge

2006-09-20 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
You may have to alter the CBRUXENT Cartridge Installation Exit to 
allow foreign tapes at your site as well.  Also, if memory serves me, you 
also have to go to the Unassigned Tapes and do an Insert then click 
Take Action to get it in the ATL database.   The Unassigned Tapes 
panel usually pops up when I do an Insert Unlabelled Cartridge anyway.


Well, I got them loaded and now I'll see what happens when I try to find 
them in the ATL and use them.




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Re: Interesting Challenge

2006-09-20 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Also found out that I had to alter the attributes of my volumes.

Alter
Private
SGTAPLIB for our site.

Then it's good to go.




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Need Firehose Document

2006-09-15 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
A while back there was a Share presentation Drinking From a Firehose 
that talked about the 1.4 to 1.7 move. I printed my copy and then deleted 
it. Now we have a couple of team members who want the PDF.

Does anyone have the link for this?

TIA




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Re: PDSE's in LINKLIST and LLA

2006-09-15 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
So is this an optional copy of the JES library, or the new and recommended 
one?




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Re: Need Firehose Document

2006-09-15 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Thanks to two listers, I have this once again.

Good bunch of folks here, even if we can't agree on semantics.




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Re: PDSE's in LINKLIST and LLA

2006-09-15 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
OOH, OOH, question::

But the OP was asking about converting his user LNKLST PDS to PDSE just
for the sake of eliminating the need to COMPRESS. 

Here's my ask for I know not the answer and deem this question germane to 
the discussion.

I have a LLA PDSE of 10 cyl. I am adding to it, or replacing in it, and it 
takes an extent. Does the LLA REFRESH pick up the extent? What if I forget 
to do the LLA REFREHS and an extent has been taken?

Also, if SMS stuff is supposed to be active for PDSE, what happens to a 
LLA version during IPL?




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Re: PDSE's in LINKLIST and LLA

2006-09-15 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Yes I did mean lnklist at IPL and you answered the question by 
interpolation, extrapolation, and stipulation.




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Re: CICS Serverpac and Variables

2006-09-15 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Did you do the GENSKEL process?




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Re: Sun DTrace

2006-09-15 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Maybe it's solar powered...

GROAN

It is Friday! Mazel Tov.




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Re: 3480 to 3490

2006-09-14 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
I've done a lot of analysis on the 3480 in the last couple of days. We 
have things like files extending to 15 reels or tapes with up to 20 files 
stacked on them. I think we're going to use an esoteric of SYS3480R to 
allow them to be read on the 3490s, but no more writes on the 3480s.




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Re: SHARE attendance

2006-09-14 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Chairs, chairpersons, sponsors, speakers, and pundits aside, maybe it's 
time for SHARE to virtualize.

A company could opt for a video conference into a specific session, or 
sessions, and pay a usage fee.

Between travel costs and extra security measures, it is getting quite 
costly, isn't it?




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Re: Non-SMP/e packaging

2006-09-13 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
I once installed a product called TASA from INFOSECINC.
The package is downloadable from the company's web site
as a binary file.  It then is TSO RECEIVED into a
samplib.   The supplied install
jobs do all the SMPE stuff.  Snippage

  Even TASID from IBM is done that way. But for an overall product install 
sometimes SMPe makes sense, other times not so much. Some vendors use full 
file replacements, as I recall, and that works just as well.

 




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Re: Upgrade from Z/OS 1/4 to Z/OS 1.7 or Z/OS 1.8 ?

2006-09-13 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
yes, it's outside the parameters of n+3




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Hi All,

We are currently running Z/OS 1.4 on all our lpars. We now want to
upgrade to a newer release of the operating system.

Z/OS 1.8 will be available at the end of this month. Are there any
issues with going straight from Z/OS 1.4 to Z/OS 1.8. ???

 

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3480 to 3490

2006-09-13 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Greetings to all.
We are trying to dump our 3480 drives. Knowing that 3490 can read 3480, 
we'd like to facilitate a way to do that that would not entail a bazillion 
JCL changes.
 Options being considered: Esoteric magic in the IODF
   Uncatalog and recatalog via IEHPROGM or IDCAMS

  I'm extrapolating the data to those volumes that have good information, 
that is cataloged datasets, on them. Then I will double check those to see 
if any have stacked information.

  Has anyone gone through a similar exercise? What was your modus operandi?

  All contributions gratefully accepted. Comments about keeping ancient 
technology on life support not solicited.

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Re: Upgrade from Z/OS 1/4 to Z/OS 1.7 or Z/OS 1.8 ?

2006-09-13 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin

What does this actually mean in the real world?  At one point I was
under the impression that this only came into effect if you were sharing
spool space or other datasets between LPARs.  In a simple configuration
like ours (3 LPARs, no sharing of anything except the hardware), what
specifically would be the implications of migrating directly from 1.4 to 
1.8.

IF you don't want to share things like catalogs and spools, and 
want to do a cold cutover, go for it. Ive been from ESA 4.3 to OS/390 2.5 
and from OS/390 2.10 to ZOS 1.4 this way and survived it.

  What is meant by the N+3 is that with coexistence maintenance on you can 
run your current system and bring up a newer one in a plex'd environment 
and allow for shared spool, catalogs, etc.

  It boils down to personal choice. If your 1.8 would not be allowed to 
touch the other side's files, then don't let it stop you. The listers are 
trying to give you the usual caveats about these things, not tell you will 
suffer male pattern baldness and fallen arches by deviating.




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Re: Upgrade from Z/OS 1/4 to Z/OS 1.7 or Z/OS 1.8 ?

2006-09-13 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Tom's point is well taken and I omitted that point. If you touch your 1.4 
system with a 1.8 system, you won't be going back without massive 
restores.




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Re: Upgrade from Z/OS 1/4 to Z/OS 1.7 or Z/OS 1.8 ?

2006-09-13 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
According to recent announcements, R9 starts the n-2 or n+2 (depending on 
your personal preference). Currently 3 is the factor.

Source: Share session 2892:  One Last Drink from the Firehose: Migrating 
from z/OS R4 to R7.




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Re: 3480 to 3490

2006-09-13 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin

There is a tool on the CBT tape to fix the catalog entries.  Watch for
anything that adds data onto an existing tape, DISP=MOD or FSEQ +1, it
will break. 

After those 2, I think it's pretty easy.  We had UNIT=CART in our JCL,
so IODF change covered that. 


  I think we're going to go the esoterics route. I analyzed the tapes and 
came up with things like 15 datasets (GDGs) on a volume or a dataset that 
ran in excess of 10 volumes.

  A couple of TLMS reports, a couple of REXX execs and there you go.




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Re: Non-SMP/e packaging

2006-09-12 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Whether one uses SMP/e or a vendor equivalent, it produces a more sound 
system. I've had products that are load and go (Plug and play?) and while 
they may work OK, maintenance is usually a module level replace and you 
aren't really sure what you've got.

I've used Activator with similar success to SMP/e, and I've even got my 
own way of updating exits whereas they aren't usermods. 

I'm wondering if the originator of the thread is leery of SMP/e, or feels 
that there aren't enough hours to do it.




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Follow up to my last note; read the CA Common Services install process
and see if SMP/E makes it easier. 

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Re: Jcl

2006-09-12 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
We had a situation similar to the originator here. There was a job that 
needed to be manipulated based on the month. I wrote an EXEC which created 
a JCL that is stored in a PDS. A demand scheduled job kicks it off. Step 1 
runs the EXEC, step 2 submits the job to the internal reader.

I am willing to send those along.




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