Re: IBM Main Forum
That's good, thanks very much. - Original Message - From: Frank Yaeger yae...@us.ibm.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 1:05 PM Subject: Re: IBM Main Forum Grahan Hobbs at IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 02/29/2012 05:10:25 PM: http://ibmmainframeforum.com/index.php is where I found an interesting site. Seems I was a member years ago. When I registered I got an automated response .. There are actually several z/OS Help Boards (I'm a Moderator on many of them). The one you mentioned is for beginners, so it's probably NOT the best one for anyone on IBM-MAIN. Instead, I would suggest: http://ibmmainframes.com/index.php (the most active) or http://www.mvsforums.com (run by my DFSORT colleague, Kolusu) Frank Yaeger - DFSORT Development Team (IBM) - yae...@us.ibm.com Specialties: JOINKEYS, FINDREP, WHEN=GROUP, ICETOOL, Symbols, Migration = DFSORT/MVS is on the Web at http://www.ibm.com/storage/dfsort -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
IBM Main Forum
http://ibmmainframeforum.com/index.php is where I found an interesting site. Seems I was a member years ago. When I registered I got an automated response .. Your account is currently inactive and will need to be approved by an administrator before you can log in. Another email will be sent when this has occurred. .. might anybody know anything about who/where/when, have been waiting three days now. Got questions I'd like to ask. Thanks Graham Hobbs -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS compiling COBOL/CICS pgms
Terry, Thanks, I got the non DB2 compile/link going+ using DFHZITCL. Manual refers to DFHEITVL but it wasn't found? Won't need the DB2 one until next week so will work on it then but pointers taken. cheers Graham .. both Sheffield's coming back up?! - Original Message - From: Terry Sambrooks terry.sambro...@btclick.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 6:02 AM Subject: Re: z/OS compiling COBOL/CICS pgms Hi Graham, I do not recognize the procedure COBMCIC4 as being an IBM supplied procedure as CICS ones generally begin DFH, and DB2 ones usually begin DSN. As use are using the Dallas service I would assume it to be at the same level as the zPDT ADCD offering, in which case you can exploit the integrated translation facilities of the Enterprise Compiler and the procedure for this is DFHZITCL. The example below is a standard COB/CICS compile with no DB2. If you run a standard compile first and check the PARM options listed, the DB2 value should be present I think it is SQL from memory. The PARM values can be set either via PARM overrides in the JCL, or possibly better via the inclusion of a CBL statement at the front of the source code. //CICSCOBM JOB CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=X,NOTIFY=SYSUID // SET HLQ=SYSUID/* Data Set HLQ */ // SET MBR=BRWS01 /* Program to be compiled */ //* //*Compile program BRWS01 //* //S0010EXEC PROC=DFHZITCL,INDEX='DFH420.CICS',LNGPRFX=IGY420, // DSCTLIB=HLQ..COPY.BOOKS,OUTC='*', // PROGLIB=HLQ..CICS.LOADLIB //COBOL.SYSIN DD DISP=SHR,DSN=HLQ..SOURCE.COB(MBR) //LKED.SYSLMOD DD DISP=SHR,DSN=HLQ..CICS.LOADLIB(MBR) Kind Regards - Terry Director KMS-IT Limited 228 Abbeydale Road South Dore Sheffield S17 3LA UK Reg : 3767263 Outgoing e-mails have been scanned, but it is the recipients responsibility to ensure their anti-virus software is up to date. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
z/OS compiling COBOL/CICS pgms
Hello, Questions again please! On Dallas VIC z/OS R13 I need to: - compile/link a COBOL/CICS pgm, VSAM KSDS (no DB2) - compile/link a COBOL/CICS/DB2 pgm From google/docs I tried COBMCIC4 for a non DB2 and DB2CICSC for a DB2 pgms but both procs were not found. Did a COBMCIC 'srchfor' against the DFH420 HLQ(?) .. produced nothing. .. e.g. the non DB2 compile JCL was .. //CMPP01 JOB (CONRAD-A),'GH', // CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=0,MSGLEVEL=(1,1) //PROCLIB JCLLIB ORDER=DFH420.CICS.SDFHPROC //COMPILEC EXEC COBMCIC4 //TRN.SYSIN DD DSN=IBMUSE1.MFSY(MFSYP01),DISP=SHR= IP PGM //COB.SYSLIB DD DSN=IBMUSE1.MFSY,DISP=SHR =COPY LIBRARY /* //LKED.SYSLMOD DD DSN=VENDOR.LINKLIB.SECOND(MFSYP01),DISP=SHR =LOADLIB // So what/where are the relevant procs? Greedy but better still .. real live JCL:-)! Solution should not include making any changes to the procs. As always, TIA Graham Hobbs .. am about to start my CICS 4.2 for the first time for years .. can't remember how to logoff, shut down or both .. could somebody please remind me? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Prob with DFHMAPS
Hello, Trying to assemble a map, my first time but it failed with 'DATA SET NOT FOUND'. Given the following is there something obvious I've missed? .. my JCL is .. //ASSMBL JOB (ASSEM-1),'GH', // CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=0,MSGLEVEL=(1,1) //PROCLIB JCLLIB ORDER=DFH420.CICS.SDFHPROC == where DFHMAPS is located //MFSYHE1 EXEC DFHMAPS, //MAPLIB=VENDOR.LINKLIB.SECOND, == where i want the obj to go //DSCTLIB=IBMUSE1.MFSY, == where I want my symbolic map to go //MAPNAME=MFSYHE1 //SYSUT1 DD DSN=IBMUSE1.MFSY.BMS(MFSYHE1),DISP=SHR == where my BMS is // .. partial list of SDSF;O shows that only the first step of DFHMAPS worked as follows .. IEF142I ASSMBL COPY MFSYHE1 - STEP WAS EXECUTED - COND CODE IEF285I IBMUSE2.ASSMBL.JOB02276.D101.? SYSOUT IEF285I SYS12032.T210345.RA000.ASSMBL.TEMPM.H01 PASSED IEF285I IBMUSE1.MFSY.BMS KEPT IEF285I VOL SER NOS= VPWRKA. IEF373I STEP/COPY/START 2012032.2103 IEF032I STEP/COPY/STOP 2012032.2103 CPU: 0 HR 00 MIN 00.00 SECSRB: 0 HR 00 MIN 00.00 SEC VIRT: 172K SYS: 256K EXT:0K SYS:11132K IEF212I ASSMBL ASMMAP MFSYHE1 SYSLIB - DATA SET NOT FOUND IEF272I ASSMBL ASMMAP MFSYHE1 - STEP WAS NOT EXECUTED. .. am I supposed to have some reference to SYSLIB somewhere? on the IEF212I explanation I could see only one thing that might be a prob being .. The DD statement requested a data set cataloged in a user catalog. The JCL did not contain a JOBCAT or STEPCAT DD statement. Please, thanks, Graham Hobbs -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Prob with DFHMAPS
Gentlemen, Thanks muchly for the help - it worked without touching DFHMAPS! and got my object and symbolic outputs (terminology?). The INDEX did it .. here's what I used: //MAPTST JOB (ASSEM-1),'GH', // CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=0,MSGLEVEL=(1,1) //PROCLIB JCLLIB ORDER=DFH420.CICS.SDFHPROC //MFSYHE1 EXEC DFHMAPS, //INDEX=DFH420.CICS, //MAPLIB=VENDOR.LINKLIB.SECOND, //DSCTLIB=IBMUSE1.MFSY, //MAPNAME=MFSYHE1 //SYSUT1 DD DSN=IBMUSE1.MFSY.BMS(MFSYHE1),DISP=SHR // cheers, Graham .. what's SWAG? Original Message - From: McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 11:16 AM Subject: Re: Prob with DFHMAPS -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Don Imbriale Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 9:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Prob with DFHMAPS If the user catalog is properly set up, JOBCAT/STEPCAT DD are not needed. They should be avoided at all costs. - Don Imbriale STEPCAT and JOBCAT will now cause a JCL error. They are not supported in any current z/OS release. IEFC034I JOBCAT OR STEPCAT NOT PERMITTED -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Prob with DFHMAPS
and SNAFU but thanks for SWAG! - Original Message - From: Ed Finnell efinnel...@aol.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 10:29 PM Subject: Re: Prob with DFHMAPS Scientific Wild Ass Guess! As opposed to FUBAR In a message dated 2/2/2012 9:19:01 P.M. Central Standard Time, gho...@cdpwise.net writes: SWAG? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Annoying ISPF prob
Thanks, I tried the methods but nothing worked. John - Edit settings .. there was no M and Profile 20 said IMACRO NONE. Lizette - the E /(##xx) gave me 'Invalid line command'. How might I subscribe to bit.listserv.ispf-l cheers Graham --- - Original Message - From: John McKown joa...@swbell.net Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 8:53 PM Subject: Re: Annoying ISPF prob You probably, somehow, set M as an initial macro. Bring up a member in edit as you are now doing. Look up at the top row. See the Edit_Settings, which is 3rd from the left? Place your cursor on that and press ENTER. This brings up a dialog box. The first field in that is labelled User session initial macro. It __should__ have an M in it. Blank that field out. PF3 out of the dialog. You should no longer get those messages when you do an E on a member. Another possibility is that your edit profile has an IMACRO set. Edit a member and enter IMACRO NONE on the command line (without the marks). You can tell this from the command: PROFILE 20 to see if there is an IMACRO in the edit profile. On Fri, 2012-01-27 at 19:28 -0500, Graham Hobbs wrote: Hello, Newbe again .. I have three TSO/ISPF sessions going. Only one gives me this problem. I didn't consciously cause it. .. am wanting to edit a pgm in CBL.PGMS (prob is also true for CBL.CPYBKS, etc in this session), so I put 'e' as follows.. DSLIST - Data Sets Matching CON*1 Member processed Command === Scroll === CSR Command - Enter / to select action Message Volume --- CONRAD.CBL.CPYBKSEdited VPMVSC eCONRAD.CBL.PGMS Edited VPMVSC CONRAD.CBL.PGMS1 VPMVSC CONRAD.CBL.PGMS2.VIC VPMVSC CONRAD.GHTEST VPD91C .. which gets me to a member list where I put 'e' on a member (big E makes no difference) .. ss EDIT CONRAD.CBL.PGMS Row 00025 of 00053 Command === Scroll === CSR Name Prompt Size Created Changed ID _ STEPH01 322 2012/01/24 2012/01/26 09:47:31 IBMUSE2 _ STEPH033520 2012/01/24 2012/01/27 17:59:16 IBMUSE1 e STEPH101329 2012/01/24 2012/01/26 09:49:27 IBMUSE2 _ STEPH152206 2012/01/24 2012/01/26 09:49:46 IBMUSE2 _ STEPH40 386 2012/01/24 2012/01/26 09:50:06 IBMUSE2 _ STEPJ302219 2012/01/24 2012/01/26 09:51:15 IBMUSE2 .. hit Enter expecting to get the pgm in edit mode but I got .. IKJ56500I COMMAND M NOT FOUND *** .. hitting Enter again I got 'Macro does not exist' and an 'M' on the cmnd line .. EDIT CONRAD.CBL.PGMS(STEPH10) - 01.02 Macro does not exist Command === MScroll === CSR ** * Top of Data ** 01 *``STEPH10 02IDENTIFICATION DIVISION. 03PROGRAM-ID. STEPH10. .. only after I clear the M can normal editing can be done:-( I don't even know what to google for this. How can I stop this behaviour, please, thanks. Graham Hobbs -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- John McKown Maranatha! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Annoying ISPF prob
Got it! a) your create a macro M worked b) also retired mainframer got specific about something I think I misunderstood from Lizette about where to put the E and where to put the / ... that was the answer because there was the ugly old M!! thanks folks .. am learning tricks:-) Graham - Original Message - From: John McKown joa...@swbell.net Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 3:26 PM Subject: Re: Annoying ISPF prob Very strange. What I have done in the past is deleted all members in my ISPF profile dataset to reset everything. A bit extreme. Another possibility, which may not be possible. is to do a DDLIST command (on any screen). Find the SYSPROC or SYSEXEC DD statement and see if there is a dataset on it which you can update. If there is, create a member called M and make it: /* REXX */ ISREDIT MACRO And that's it. A do nothing ISPF EDIT macro called M. This will at least shut ISPF up. On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 12:12 -0500, Graham Hobbs wrote: Thanks, I tried the methods but nothing worked. John - Edit settings .. there was no M and Profile 20 said IMACRO NONE. Lizette - the E /(##xx) gave me 'Invalid line command'. How might I subscribe to bit.listserv.ispf-l cheers Graham --- - Original Message - From: John McKown joa...@swbell.net Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 8:53 PM Subject: Re: Annoying ISPF prob You probably, somehow, set M as an initial macro. Bring up a member in edit as you are now doing. Look up at the top row. See the Edit_Settings, which is 3rd from the left? Place your cursor on that and press ENTER. This brings up a dialog box. The first field in that is labelled User session initial macro. It __should__ have an M in it. Blank that field out. PF3 out of the dialog. You should no longer get those messages when you do an E on a member. Another possibility is that your edit profile has an IMACRO set. Edit a member and enter IMACRO NONE on the command line (without the marks). You can tell this from the command: PROFILE 20 to see if there is an IMACRO in the edit profile. On Fri, 2012-01-27 at 19:28 -0500, Graham Hobbs wrote: Hello, Newbe again .. I have three TSO/ISPF sessions going. Only one gives me this problem. I didn't consciously cause it. .. am wanting to edit a pgm in CBL.PGMS (prob is also true for CBL.CPYBKS, etc in this session), so I put 'e' as follows.. DSLIST - Data Sets Matching CON*1 Member processed Command === Scroll === CSR Command - Enter / to select action Message Volume --- CONRAD.CBL.CPYBKSEdited VPMVSC eCONRAD.CBL.PGMS Edited VPMVSC CONRAD.CBL.PGMS1 VPMVSC CONRAD.CBL.PGMS2.VIC VPMVSC CONRAD.GHTEST VPD91C .. which gets me to a member list where I put 'e' on a member (big E makes no difference) .. ss EDIT CONRAD.CBL.PGMS Row 00025 of 00053 Command === Scroll === CSR Name Prompt Size Created Changed ID _ STEPH01 322 2012/01/24 2012/01/26 09:47:31 IBMUSE2 _ STEPH033520 2012/01/24 2012/01/27 17:59:16 IBMUSE1 e STEPH101329 2012/01/24 2012/01/26 09:49:27 IBMUSE2 _ STEPH152206 2012/01/24 2012/01/26 09:49:46 IBMUSE2 _ STEPH40 386 2012/01/24 2012/01/26 09:50:06 IBMUSE2 _ STEPJ302219 2012/01/24 2012/01/26 09:51:15 IBMUSE2 .. hit Enter expecting to get the pgm in edit mode but I got .. IKJ56500I COMMAND M NOT FOUND *** .. hitting Enter again I got 'Macro does not exist' and an 'M' on the cmnd line .. EDIT CONRAD.CBL.PGMS(STEPH10) - 01.02 Macro does not exist Command === MScroll === CSR ** * Top of Data ** 01 *``STEPH10 02IDENTIFICATION DIVISION. 03PROGRAM-ID. STEPH10. .. only after I clear the M can normal editing can be done:-( I don't even know what to google for this. How can I stop this behaviour, please, thanks. Graham Hobbs -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- John McKown Maranatha! -- For IBM
Re: Annoying ISPF prob
Dave, Am on IBM Dallas VIC, guessing plain vanilla, in view there was no problem, but have got the answer now. cheers graham --- - Original Message - From: Dave Salt ds...@hotmail.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 1:36 PM Subject: Re: Annoying ISPF prob Are you using a customized or vanilla edit panel? If customized, try vanilla and see if that fixes the problem. Also, what happens if you view rather than edit? Dave Salt SimpList(tm) - try it; you'll get it! http://www.mackinney.com/products/program-development/simplist.html Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 12:12:37 -0500 From: gho...@cdpwise.net Subject: Re: Annoying ISPF prob To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Thanks, I tried the methods but nothing worked. John - Edit settings .. there was no M and Profile 20 said IMACRO NONE. Lizette - the E /(##xx) gave me 'Invalid line command'. How might I subscribe to bit.listserv.ispf-l cheers Graham --- - Original Message - From: John McKown joa...@swbell.net Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 8:53 PM Subject: Re: Annoying ISPF prob You probably, somehow, set M as an initial macro. Bring up a member in edit as you are now doing. Look up at the top row. See the Edit_Settings, which is 3rd from the left? Place your cursor on that and press ENTER. This brings up a dialog box. The first field in that is labelled User session initial macro. It __should__ have an M in it. Blank that field out. PF3 out of the dialog. You should no longer get those messages when you do an E on a member. Another possibility is that your edit profile has an IMACRO set. Edit a member and enter IMACRO NONE on the command line (without the marks). You can tell this from the command: PROFILE 20 to see if there is an IMACRO in the edit profile. On Fri, 2012-01-27 at 19:28 -0500, Graham Hobbs wrote: Hello, Newbe again .. I have three TSO/ISPF sessions going. Only one gives me this problem. I didn't consciously cause it. .. am wanting to edit a pgm in CBL.PGMS (prob is also true for CBL.CPYBKS, etc in this session), so I put 'e' as follows.. DSLIST - Data Sets Matching CON*1 Member processed Command === Scroll === CSR Command - Enter / to select action Message Volume --- CONRAD.CBL.CPYBKSEdited VPMVSC eCONRAD.CBL.PGMS Edited VPMVSC CONRAD.CBL.PGMS1 VPMVSC CONRAD.CBL.PGMS2.VIC VPMVSC CONRAD.GHTEST VPD91C .. which gets me to a member list where I put 'e' on a member (big E makes no difference) .. ss EDIT CONRAD.CBL.PGMS Row 00025 of 00053 Command === Scroll === CSR Name Prompt Size Created Changed ID _ STEPH01 322 2012/01/24 2012/01/26 09:47:31 IBMUSE2 _ STEPH033520 2012/01/24 2012/01/27 17:59:16 IBMUSE1 e STEPH101329 2012/01/24 2012/01/26 09:49:27 IBMUSE2 _ STEPH152206 2012/01/24 2012/01/26 09:49:46 IBMUSE2 _ STEPH40 386 2012/01/24 2012/01/26 09:50:06 IBMUSE2 _ STEPJ302219 2012/01/24 2012/01/26 09:51:15 IBMUSE2 .. hit Enter expecting to get the pgm in edit mode but I got .. IKJ56500I COMMAND M NOT FOUND *** .. hitting Enter again I got 'Macro does not exist' and an 'M' on the cmnd line .. EDIT CONRAD.CBL.PGMS(STEPH10) - 01.02 Macro does not exist Command === MScroll === CSR ** * Top of Data ** 01 *``STEPH10 02IDENTIFICATION DIVISION. 03PROGRAM-ID. STEPH10. .. only after I clear the M can normal editing can be done:-( I don't even know what to google for this. How can I stop this behaviour, please, thanks. Graham Hobbs -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- John McKown Maranatha! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu
Annoying ISPF prob
Hello, Newbe again .. I have three TSO/ISPF sessions going. Only one gives me this problem. I didn't consciously cause it. .. am wanting to edit a pgm in CBL.PGMS (prob is also true for CBL.CPYBKS, etc in this session), so I put 'e' as follows.. DSLIST - Data Sets Matching CON*1 Member processed Command === Scroll === CSR Command - Enter / to select action Message Volume --- CONRAD.CBL.CPYBKSEditedVPMVSC eCONRAD.CBL.PGMS EditedVPMVSC CONRAD.CBL.PGMS1 VPMVSC CONRAD.CBL.PGMS2.VIC VPMVSC CONRAD.GHTEST VPD91C .. which gets me to a member list where I put 'e' on a member (big E makes no difference) .. ss EDIT CONRAD.CBL.PGMS Row 00025 of 00053 Command === Scroll === CSR Name Prompt Size Created Changed ID _ STEPH01 322 2012/01/24 2012/01/26 09:47:31 IBMUSE2 _ STEPH033520 2012/01/24 2012/01/27 17:59:16 IBMUSE1 e STEPH101329 2012/01/24 2012/01/26 09:49:27 IBMUSE2 _ STEPH152206 2012/01/24 2012/01/26 09:49:46 IBMUSE2 _ STEPH40 386 2012/01/24 2012/01/26 09:50:06 IBMUSE2 _ STEPJ302219 2012/01/24 2012/01/26 09:51:15 IBMUSE2 .. hit Enter expecting to get the pgm in edit mode but I got .. IKJ56500I COMMAND M NOT FOUND *** .. hitting Enter again I got 'Macro does not exist' and an 'M' on the cmnd line .. EDIT CONRAD.CBL.PGMS(STEPH10) - 01.02 Macro does not exist Command === MScroll === CSR ** * Top of Data ** 01 *``STEPH10 02IDENTIFICATION DIVISION. 03PROGRAM-ID. STEPH10. .. only after I clear the M can normal editing can be done:-( I don't even know what to google for this. How can I stop this behaviour, please, thanks. Graham Hobbs -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SDSF;O SYSLOG files?
Jantje, I will for other questions (already purged most of my SYSLOG's, logged on this morning and all seems well). Working alone one collects sources .. especially this list! Thanks Graham .. pity about Clijsters - Original Message - From: Jan MOEYERSONS jan.moeyers...@adelior.be Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 6:27 AM Subject: Re: SDSF;O SYSLOG files? On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 11:24:22 -0500, Graham Hobbs gho...@cdpwise.net wrote: Am an app developer on Dallas VIC, they clutter my O option, always seems to be around sixteen of them You may want to ask the question to zTech zt...@us.ibm.com. In my experience the people there are competent and very responsive. Cheers, Jantje. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
SDSF;O SYSLOG files?
Hello, Newby question please .. I have these SYSLOG's on my SDSF .. SDSF OUTPUT ALL CLASSES ALL FORMSLINES 291,034 LINE 1-21 (35) COMMAND INPUT ===SCROLL === CSR PREFIX=* DEST=(ALL) OWNER=* SYSNAME= NP JOBNAME JobIDOwnerPrty C FormsDest Tot-Rec SYSLOG STC2 +MASTER+ 144 C STD LOCAL 70 SYSLOG STC00018 +MASTER+ 128 C STD LOCAL 3,562 SYSLOG STC00052 +MASTER+ 128 C STD LOCAL 3,523 etc EXITMVS STC00109 STCOPER96 H STD LOCAL 57,233 EXITMVS STC00169 STCOPER96 H STD LOCAL 56,820 Am an app developer on Dallas VIC, they clutter my O option, always seems to be around sixteen of them, seem to be unchanging but there's a new one each day so presume 'one/some' drop off, as the name suggests they look like logs, I never look at them. May I safely purge them? Same question the EXITMVS's (look like dumps). TIA Graham Hobbs -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SDSF;O SYSLOG files?
Thanks folks, I am sysprog, app developer, corner office, CIO and do coffee. Net result of question .. keep a couple, purge the rest. Graham - Original Message - From: Graham Hobbs gho...@cdpwise.net Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 11:24 AM Subject: SDSF;O SYSLOG files? Hello, Newby question please .. I have these SYSLOG's on my SDSF .. SDSF OUTPUT ALL CLASSES ALL FORMSLINES 291,034 LINE 1-21 (35) COMMAND INPUT ===SCROLL === CSR PREFIX=* DEST=(ALL) OWNER=* SYSNAME= NP JOBNAME JobIDOwnerPrty C FormsDest Tot-Rec SYSLOG STC2 +MASTER+ 144 C STD LOCAL 70 SYSLOG STC00018 +MASTER+ 128 C STD LOCAL 3,562 SYSLOG STC00052 +MASTER+ 128 C STD LOCAL 3,523 etc EXITMVS STC00109 STCOPER96 H STD LOCAL 57,233 EXITMVS STC00169 STCOPER96 H STD LOCAL 56,820 Am an app developer on Dallas VIC, they clutter my O option, always seems to be around sixteen of them, seem to be unchanging but there's a new one each day so presume 'one/some' drop off, as the name suggests they look like logs, I never look at them. May I safely purge them? Same question the EXITMVS's (look like dumps). TIA Graham Hobbs -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: COBOL Compiler option
Hi Rick and folks who have been helping, Am trying for 2(0222) length and displacement info from the z/OS compiler .. thanks for suggestions. I tried OFFSET, DMAP, PMAP, LIST, ADATA (which it wouldn't accept) - only MAP gave me results. Except the z/OS is in hex... e.g. x'0DE' = 222. .. RDz 7.1 output using MAP .. 1PP 5725-B74 IBM COBOL for Windows 7.6.1 STEPP01 Date 01/09/2012 Time 12:03:31 Page 5 LineID PL L +-*A-1-B--+2+3+4+5+6+7-|--+8 Map and Cross Reference 0 000171C 10 CG-KYC2-LENGK-SCRN PIC 9(002). 2(00222) 000172C 10 CG-KYA3-LENGK-SCRN PIC 9(002). 2(00224) 000173C 10 CG-KYB3-LENGK-SCRN PIC 9(002). 2(00226) 000174C 10 CG-KYC3-LENGK-SCRN PIC 9(002). 2(00228) .. and z/OS output using MAP .. PP 5655-S71 IBM Enterprise COBOL for z/OS 4.2.0 STEPP01 Date 01/12/2012 Time 18:11:30 Page 7 LineID PL L +-*A-1-B--+2+3+4+5+6+7-|--+8 Map and Cross Reference 000171C 10 CG-KYC2-LENGK-SCRN PIC 9(002). BLF=0+0DE,0DE 2C 000172C 10 CG-KYA3-LENGK-SCRN PIC 9(002). BLF=0+0E0,0E0 2C 000173C 10 CG-KYB3-LENGK-SCRN PIC 9(002). BLF=0+0E2,0E2 2C 000174C 10 CG-KYC3-LENGK-SCRN PIC 9(002). BLF=0+0E4,0E4 2C Possible that the z/OS output is 'the new way', maybe expect the same with RDz? cheers Graham --- - Original Message - From: Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 6:36 PM Subject: Re: COBOL Compiler option You might also try DMAP and/or PMAP, says one of my friends. Rick On 1/11/2012 8:05 PM, Stewart, David James wrote: Try using option OFFSET and make sure NOOFFSET is not specified or amend NOOFSET to OFFSET :) LIST and MAP will give you the generated ASSEMBLER (OBJECT) code David Stewart Mainframe Technical Specialist Technical Services Standard Chartered Bank Phone: +603 7681 2101 internal +603 7681 5101 external Fax: +603 7956 4658 Mobile: +60 176083655 Fonenet: 16032101 Email: david.stew...@sc.com Address: Level 2, Menara LYL Jalan 51A/223 Petaling Jaya Selangor, 46100, Malaysia Website: http://www.scopeinternational-kl.com Website for internal use: MF COE support site -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: COBOL Compiler option
Sam, LIST didn't show displacements. MAP did although not same format as I remember from ten years ago, but usable. Lizette, have noted the link. Thanks, Graham - Original Message - From: Sam Siegel s...@pscsi.net Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 11:34 PM Subject: Re: COBOL Compiler option On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Graham Hobbs gho...@cdpwise.net wrote: Hello, When I look at the output listing of a compiled pgm, I used to be able to see field displacements of copybooks and working storage. What is the option that does this .. nothing in the options list stands out. Thanks, Graham Hobbs I think you want to look at LIST and MAP -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Compiler option
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COBOL Compiler option
Hello, When I look at the output listing of a compiled pgm, I used to be able to see field displacements of copybooks and working storage. What is the option that does this .. nothing in the options list stands out. Thanks, Graham Hobbs -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Internal text
Clark, Am new to all this, CBT, etc, so more than curious. Your CBT 175 points to JOB and DD parsing but there are a whole slew of members therein - might I ask which one in particular - or am I misunderstanding something:-(? Thanks, Graham Hobbs - Original Message - From: Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 2:27 PM Subject: Re: Internal text On 6 Jan 2012 10:56:09 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: I have been tasked with an update to JES2 exit 6. One of the functions I need to implement is to forbid all use of a certain JCL parameter. See the Philips Lighting mods - File 175 on the CBT tape for an exit 6 that does a fair amount of parsing of the JOB and DD cards to among other things set the JOBCLASS in the JCT. While the exit is over 20 years old, it still should be useful as one way to handle parsing. Clark Morris Initial testing indicates the INTTXT presents the parameter in the order specified in the JCL. Since the forbidden parameter may be in the middle of the string, I will need to manipulate the INTTXT buffer to eliminate the forbidden parameter by shifting the characters to the right of the forbidden parameter, to the left. What would be preferable is to nullify the parameter in the internal text string without shifting the string. (i.e. create a noop) without the character shift. Does anyone know if this is possible? If so, what is the INTTXT key? I have been all over the IEFVKEYS macro, and can't seem to find one. TIA, -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: How to find a PDS member
Paul, Neither mentioned to date. I have what I need for the time being, but time permitting shall check these out. Thanks very much. Graham P.S. Am 64-02 vintage, what's APF:-) .. don't answer, will google it. --- - Original Message - From: Paul Strauss strau...@us.ibm.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 1:38 AM Subject: Re: How to find a PDS member Graham, I've often had to go into companies being given a TSO ID and knowing nothing else about the site. One of my first steps would be to ask one of the Storage group people to run a DCOLLECT job (DFSMS Data Collection Facility) to list all datasets on all DASD on the system and put the output in a sequential file. This would have all dataset names, last reference dates, DSORG and more. You would browse that until you get a feel for he naming conventions used and use the names to try and determine which datasets might have what you are looking for. DCOLLECT will list all datasets, even those not catalogued. Just because a dataset isn't catalogued doesn't mean it doesn't have something in it your interested in. APF datasets do not have to be catalogued. While waiting for that output you can search many system and TSO datasets with ISRDDN. I haven't seen anyone mention that to you but I haven't read all these threads either. From ISPF screen 6 enter ISRDDN. On the screen returned enter LINKLIST on the command line On the screen returned enter MEMBER modulenameyouarelookingfor on the command line and hit enter You will get a warning screen because this command will open every LINKLIST and LPA dataset to read. If you don't have access to a certain number, security may cancel and suspend your ID Enter YES to the warning. If the module is in LPA, LINKLIST or any library allocated to your TSO ID, ISRDDN will fine it. Browse the list to see them all. You can do the same thing using ISRDDN to search APF datasets. Follow the same process as above except where you first entered LINKLIST under ISRDDN, enter APF. And my disclaimer: The postings on this site are my own and don't necessarily represent IBM's positions, strategies, or opinions (just trying to help). Thank You, Paul Strauss Integrated Technology Delivery, Global Services, IBM L0DB z/OS MVS/Program Products/Security 150 Kettletown Rd. Southbury, CT 06488 (203) 272-2758 strau...@us.ibm.com | | From: | | --| |Graham Hobbs gho...@cdpwise.net | --| | | To:| | --| |IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu | --| | | Date: | | --| |01/05/2012 08:18 PM | --| | | Subject: | | --| |Re: How to find a PDS member | --| | | Sent by: | | --| |IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu | --| I did, bit laborious, but just poking around I saw HLQ's that started to mean something. Plus the list gave me 'srchfor' and 'member' - pearls of wisdom. And for an oldtime app developer, if it aint catalogued it dont exist. - Original Message - From: Schwarz, Barry A barry.a.schw...@boeing.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 3:54 PM Subject: Re: How to find a PDS member If you really have no idea what the HLQ is, you can just use 3.4 with the 29 simplest, A*, B*, ..., Z*, @*, #*, $*. Not sophisticated and only works if the dataset is catalogued. -Original Message- From
Re: How to find a PDS member
I did, bit laborious, but just poking around I saw HLQ's that started to mean something. Plus the list gave me 'srchfor' and 'member' - pearls of wisdom. And for an oldtime app developer, if it aint catalogued it dont exist. - Original Message - From: Schwarz, Barry A barry.a.schw...@boeing.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 3:54 PM Subject: Re: How to find a PDS member If you really have no idea what the HLQ is, you can just use 3.4 with the 29 simplest, A*, B*, ..., Z*, @*, #*, $*. Not sophisticated and only works if the dataset is catalogued. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Graham Hobbs Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 6:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: How to find a PDS member OK, thanks, 'member' is the ticket! Downside is that Dsname Level is mandatory implying some knowledge of the high level qualifier. I happened to know that IGYCOP* is what I wanted so found my members. In the real world am not sure this is a downside? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Copying a PDS to a similiar PDS (backup)
Lizette/Kees, I looked up the Share document and it said nothing about JCL changes, plus what you explained about 'Authorize' (which I quite misunderstood), so reasoned that my JCL had to be wrong .. what else:-(. Found another JCL example and notes in another doc .. glaring errors in SYSUT2! SYSUT2 has to have exactly the same attributes as SYSUT1 i.e. RECFM, LRECL, BLKSIZE, allocated CYLS, EXTENTS and BLOCKS, don't use RLSE and it works. //STEP1EXEC PGM=IEBCOPY //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSUT1 DD DSN=CONRAD.CBL.PGMS,DISP=SHR //SYSUT2 DD DSN=CONRADZ.CBL.PGMS.BK120105,DISP=(NEW,CATLG), // UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=VPWRKA,SPACE=(CYL,(60,1,200)), // DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=6160) //SYSINDD * COPY INDD=SYSUT1,OUTDD=SYSUT2 /* .. that worked a treat. Thanks muchly for the pointers. Graham - Original Message - From: Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 2:46 AM Subject: Re: Copying a PDS to a similiar PDS (backup) Graham Hobbs gho...@cdpwise.net wrote in message news:jbb7g7p5l51mvm9oooc549bv1tmh1hc...@4ax.com... Hello, Just returned to z/OS mainframe after 10 years, working alone, nobody to talk to:-(. My next elementary question: - I need to backup my 80 byte source library PDS's - have read that IEBCOPY is no longer authorized .. and I couldn't make it work anyway - googling doesn't give clear answer - Question: how to copy such a PDS to an exactly similiar backup PDS Please, thanks, Graham Hobbs Graham, You may have heard that in z/OS V1.13 that IEBCOPY no longer needs to be apf authorized for some functions. That does not mean that IEBCOPY no longer works. You may wish to look at the share presentation from Aug 2011 on IEBCOPY and changes coming up with z/OS V1.13. IEBCOPY is still a good backup for PDS datasets. DFDSS is a good backup for most datasets What specifically do you want to do with the backup? Is this archive, transport, I did not see your original post. Are you on the LISTSERVER or some other news process? If you have not joined the listserver please do, a lot more of us will see your postings then. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: How to find a PDS member
OK, thanks, 'member' is the ticket! Downside is that Dsname Level is mandatory implying some knowledge of the high level qualifier. I happened to know that IGYCOP* is what I wanted so found my members. In the real world am not sure this is a downside? Specifically, was looking for member IGYCOPT since I have to change the LIB parm to YES from NO so COBOL compiles work with copybooks - so if there's more than one, question then becomes 'which one, both, all?'. Have asked VIC Support - they're really good!. Thanks for the info, am learning! cheers Graham Hobbs - Original Message - From: Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 8:06 AM Subject: Re: How to find a PDS member On 1/4/2012 12:50 AM, Lizette Koehler wrote: Graham Hobbsgho...@cdpwise.net wrote in message news:5e97g75eqo2bi4cfbrhqcm9phcacji9...@4ax.com... Hello, Just returned to z/OS mainframe after 10 years, working alone, nobody to talk to:-(. My first elementary question: - there are many PDS's in the environment I now have access to - need to find which PDS(s') members called ABCCOP* exist - I don't know which PDS it or they are in - Question: Can I find it/them with ISPF 3.14 or 3.15; if not then how? Please, thanks, more duqu's to come:-) Graham Graham, What are you trying to do? 1) A selected list of PDS datasets and then search for all members of ABCCOP* 2) Generate a list of PDS Datasets (unknown number) which include members for ABCCOP* 3) Any datasets in my logon proc that contains ABCCOP* (including LINKLST and LPALST) In Option 3.4, you can use a command called SRCHFOR that might be of help. Lizette Actually, for what he is looking for, the MEMBER command would be better: From a 3.4 data set list, enter: === m abccop* and each data set that is a PDS or PDSE that contains a member with that nameing pattern will have a message 'Member: ABCCOP*' next to the member's name. SRCHFOR looks for text inside datasets or members. -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-355-2752 http://www.trainersfriend.com * To get a good Return on your Investment, first make an investment! + Training your people is an excellent investment * Try our tool for calculating your Return On Investment for training dollars at http://www.trainersfriend.com/ROI/roi.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: USS
What's a TLA?
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Brackets? Oh, you mean parentheses: ( )
Brackets are: [ ] (not square brackets, just brackets)
Braces are: { } (not curly braces, just braces)
Another common use for obscure terms.
When I was in high school English brackets was an acceptable term.
When I took FORTRAN brackets was an acceptable term.
When I took C square brackets and curly (brackets or braces) were
acceptable terms.
My profs used them.
Why, after almost 40 years, why do we have more retroactve corrections?
Like that other TLA, that shall remain nameless, even though it was used
for almost 15 years before some self-appointed pedants started taking upon
themselves to preach.
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Re: Status of my posts
Shai, My feelings .. I am a solitary guy who has invented a CICS product. I have no other way to advertise its existence other than CICS-L which I will do later this year. It will be a two line posting, point to my website and be a once only. Thereafter zero plans to use this list again - given the posting's brevity I didn't even plan to ask Darren! Then, if lucky enough to be successful, the last place I would expect to post announcements, upgrades, whatever, is here. There are less invasive ways so I do not agree with your postings here. As for 'for free' versus 'for fee' is simply irrelevant - if you don't want a fee that is your choice. Let me say I truly respect your work, am aware of the energy, dedication and frustration that goes into 'inventing' .. I wish you much luck. Graham Hobbs - Original Message - From: shai hess shai.h...@gmail.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 1:08 PM Subject: Re: Status of my posts Put MFNetDisk aside for a while. Take more imporrtant books to your hand, open your mind, and feel that everything can be arrange peacefully and without any fight nor bad feeling. How? As a vendor who sell his product for free, it may seem as not ethical step from my side to use this forum to make money. So, my solution which seem to me OK (I wait for feed backs) is simple. I am announce that Anybody can post all my post in other forum or users list everywhere and anywhere. So, I am sure that one of the user from the users list will forward my post in any subject to IBM-MAIN as well, if it seem to him as proper and intersthing to all the good people in this forum. Thanks, Shai On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 8:07 AM, Crispin Hugo crispin.h...@macro4.com wrote: Dear Shai. Please stay on IBM_Main -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of shai hess Sent: 10 July 2011 04:36 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Status of my posts --- - This email has been scanned for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security Service and the Macro 4 internal virus protection system. . -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What does issue mean? (Was: SDSF issue)
Does this Mason have a job? - Original Message - From: Ron Hawkins ron.hawkins1...@sbcglobal.net Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:12 PM Subject: Re: What does issue mean? (Was: SDSF issue) Do you honestly think that Gates is the author of the Thesaurus shipped with Office? And as for defining my language, the English I speak and spell is much closer to the real thing then the one you use. So what? And so we get to your newest subject de jour; I am a sad character. Well what did I do to attract a personal attack? Whatever, I guess it makes it OK to return the same in kind, Chris please STFU. You won't find that acronym in a VTAM manual, and I really don't care if your do. Context is everything and so you know exactly what I mean. Gates? You trust Gates to define your language for you? You must be joking or, if you are not, a sadder character than I thought. Well everyone, this LISTSERV has been hijacked by one contributor and is now bordering on the ridiculous. Good day and good luck to all those I have debated, agreed with, and most importantly learnt from for the last 14 years, but It's farewell from me. I'll watch for it to be renamed to USS-IS-A-VTAM-ACRONYM-MAIN sometime in the future. I'll look out for you at the IBM-MAIN table at SCIDS next Share. Ton -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Ignoring posts to the list.
- Original Message - From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 7:15 PM Subject: Re: Ignoring posts to the list. In E9E5821FC86B4C9E96F411FFB44D62E3@duke1, on 05/06/2011 at 12:40 PM, Dave Day david...@consolidated.net said: Please. I would like to stay as a listener and sometime poster to this list...getting kind of frustrating deleting all of these useless emails. Like yours? and yours? but you must have expected that. as the current one You haven't identified the individual in question. deep seated need Do you have a deep seated need to engage in pop psychology? As Freud said, sometimes a cigar is only a cigar. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: POHD: vs UTE (was: USS vs USS)
Right .. can't our moderator stop this crep? - Original Message - From: Shane Ginnane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 7:43 PM Subject: Re: POHD: vs UTE (was: USS vs USS) A least the change in subject got me to read it Kirk ;-) It's a pity the list doesn't support (per subscriber) blacklisting threads/contributors *at the server*. Would save an awful lot of bandwidth. ISTR an OT group was set up a while back. Doesn't seem to have helped. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Mainframe Fresher
Well, IBM could help. Steve talks about 'young' people. I'm the old kind, retired. Obviously inventing anything for z/OS needs z/OS access. I keep seeing mainframe 'retirees' on this list, some maybe having ideas+energy for new stuff, big or small. They ALL just seem to swan off into the sunset, likely never touching a mainframe again .. all those skills gone, done, fin d'histoire. And who of us are going to spend $350/month for '24 units of time' (whatever that represents?) on a VIC z/OS mainframe just to invent z/OS software - a big fat gigantic zero? What IBM needs to do for retired folk: make a Seniors' Partnerworld, let us make a case for a project, subject it to approval, grant free access. Is not much to ask, we give freely of our time and ideas, may even be successful .. IBM reaps z/OS software. But, no, we just buy bigger PC's and off into that 'other world'. Graham Hobbs - Original Message - From: john gilmore john_w_gilm...@msn.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 11:52 AM Subject: Re: Mainframe Fresher Steve Comstock writes: begin snippet He looks like a bright young man, the kind we want to sustain our favorite platform - but he can't find a job. And we on this list know he is not alone. This is the kind of reality we face if we don't, collectively and individually, take positive actions. Promote z/OS, get current ourselves, tell the stories of cool things you can do in z/OS. /end snippet has prompted me to reflect that, while it is certainly true that there are cool things that can be done with z/OS, I have not seen a cool new z/OS application in many, many years. IBM code, ISV code, or the like for z/OS that is cool? Yes, sure. But a cool new application? No, emphatically no. To describe the applications I see routinely as pedestrian would be to overstate their merits. The platform is very largely in the hands of fatuous, mediocre, risk-aversive crackpot realists who avoid new technology reflexively: Les courtisans qui l'entourant n'ont rien oublié et n'ont rien appris. New blood and new ideas are certainly needed, but how to infuse them into this tired environment is not at all clear to me. Steve's post has the great merit that it does not look at our current situation through rose-colored glasses. John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM Is Hiring
What's BTDTGITS? - Original Message - From: Arthur Gutowski aguto...@ford.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 9:08 AM Subject: Re: IBM Is Hiring On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:33:34 -0500, Jim Marshall jim.marsh...@opm.gov wrote: IBM is Hiring! Interview with us on July 27th in McLean,VA. ... As the planet becomes smarter, we have a chance to create meaningful progress and change the way the world works - for the better. At IBM Global Business Services - the world's largest business consultancy - we understand that real business value is delivered when business consulting is enriched with advanced research, analytics and technology. ... Thanks, but BTDTGTTS. Regards, Art Gutowski Ford Motor Company -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5323 (20100729) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5323 (20100729) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OT (?): Are HTML emails unsafe
Very useful, thanks. Graham - Original Message - From: Phil Smith III li...@akphs.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:38 PM Subject: Re: OT (?): Are HTML emails unsafe Steve Comstock wrote: For years now I've configured my mail client to not accept HTML emails. The common wisdom, as I percieved it anyway, has been that HTML emails and various kinds of attachements (esp. Word documents) were prime paths for viruses to attack your system. I seem to be getting a lot more HTML emails these days and I got to wondering if technology has changed enough that the probability of this kind of email being malicious has dropped to extremely small. There's nothing inherent about HTML that makes it dangerous. The risks, such as they are: 1) About a decade ago, Outlook 97 would let HTML run scripted things that were theoretically unsafe. My IT manager sent me a note which, when opened, played a WAV file which said VERY LOUDLY, Hey everybody! I'm looking at pr0n over here! Funny, but of course in certain circumstances, very not. This was fixed LONG ago, quite possibly even as a patch to Outlook 97 (I saved that old note, and it no longer does any such thing). It's worth noting that many folks decided that Outlook was dangerous based on this ancient version; using that logic, Firefox is probably worse than IE, since early Netscape wasn't exactly the most secure browser ever. 2) HTML can embed graphics, which can be not-work-safe. Graphics can also be web bugs, which can tell the server from which the graphic is fetched the identify of the note that fetched it, using a customized URL such as: http://graphics.server.com/webbug.gif?userid=...@yourdomain.com The webserver is then configured to serve the graphic (or even not, actually) and it knows -- since it sent only ONE note with that precise query string -- who read the note (well, it thinks it does, anyway; obviously it could be postmas...@yourdomain.com or equivalent, or various 'bots, but). This is semi-evil with spam, as it can telegraph Hey, we got a live one! when email is sent using a dictionary attack. Solution: don't open spam, and don't load graphics by default (any modern email client makes loading graphics optional for senders who have not been marked as safe). 3) Links in HTML could be bogus -- it's easy to say Click on this URL: www.yourbank.com and have the visible link not match the actual URL. Again, modern mail clients deal with this by marking such links as invalid, or warning in some other way. 4) Finally, I suppose comments in HTML could contain unsafe words that will get you in trouble if you have net-nanny software. But it's incoming mail, not your fault; no company can reasonably penalize you on that basis! The bottom line is that HTML email is here to stay. Folks whine about it, but the scales tipped a while ago, and too many senders use it for it to be reasonable to NOT read it. Yes, there are folks who do; they're missing out on some things, alas. I get some lists as Digests, and the HTML parts aren't usable due to the Digest format -- and outnumber the plaintext parts. My $0.02: Using good antivirus protection, practicing smart email hygiene, and having one (or several) layers of good spam filtering will keep you out of trouble, and you can enjoy the benefits of HTML email with the rest of the world. Oh, and if you use Outlook, try Autopreview (NOT the preview pane, the thing that shows you the first couple of lines of unread/all email even before you open it), which is not only nice but can also help you detect spam. Autopreview only looks at the non-HTML MIME-part, so (a) it avoids even the remaining, minor risks and (b) when you *don't* see an Autopreview on a note, you know that there is only an HTML MIME-part (or the body is empty). This provides yet another layer of early warning that this might be a dangerous message, either because what the Autopreview shows you tells you the note isn't interesting, or because there IS no Autopreview when you suspect there should be. I've built these opinions over the last 30 years of email (not that I had to worry about spam for the first 15 or so!). I currently receive 200-300 notes a day. I have three layers of spam filtering: - my ISP marks things THEY think are SPAM with a keyword in the Subject: - Outlook does its silly (and almost useless) filtering - I have a Bayesian filter that I've trained (K9, www.keir.net, runs as a POP proxy), which adds a header that I can filter on Rules tag any incoming notes that have been marked as spam either by my ISP or my Bayesian filter with specific categories, and then move them to a spam folder for later analysis. One of the nice things about the Bayesian filter is that it lets me look at the raw note, so if I'm really suspicious of one, I can check it out safely. This might sound
Re: Command Technology and SPF/SE - Alive and Well!
I too complained about the switch from REXX to C - got me nowhere. Was not happy but the constant hangups in V4 forced me to V6 and a rudimentary learning of C. There's a couple of other not so pleasant things in V6 too, e.g. in 3.4 putting a 'b'rowse on multiple members and it presents from the bottom up. All in all though, a topnotch product. Graham Hobbs That's nice to know, but I keep the old SPF/PC for one very important (to me, at least) reason: REXX support. I can develop a REXX exec at home and xfer it immediately to my mainframe ISPF environment and know that it will work identically in both locations. And that's saved me a LOT of time. -- Rick -- Remember that if you’re not the lead dog, the view never changes. William Smith wrote: Command Technology and its current product SPF/SE (not SPF/PC) is alive and well. The company has relocated from Alameda, CA, to Sun City West, AZ. I still have my copy of SPF/PC 4.07 along with all of the service disks - now archived on a CD. I have the complete set of manuals, too, in pristine condition. As a San Francisco resident, I always loved the beautiful picture of the Golden Gate Bridge and Tiburon Hills that graced the cover of the hard box case in which the product was packaged. A legendary product that I used as an IBM OS/2 developer in Boca Raton and Austin with genuine quality documentation. Although I have Vista Home Premium, I doubt it will execute. If anyone knows, please advise. Note that SPF/PC was sunset more than a decade ago (along with its predecessor, SPF/2) and replaced by successor products. Tim Tetiva is still the President of Command Technology and the web site is still active. As a matter of fact, and by coincidence, I got an email reply from him just last week about an upgrade, which he will still honor from SPF/PC 4.07. See his email reply to me below: Bill Smith z/OS Principal Software Engineer Here is Tim's reply to me of May 4, 2009: SPF/SE is actively supported and has been under continuous development since 1997. V 6.0 released Sept 2006. Since that time many additional enhancements have been incorporated without going to a new version (6.5). At this point SPF/SE is so feature rich and trouble free that we get few requests for enhancement. Continuous refinement is the norm. See HELP, item README, item CHANGES for changes from V 5.0 to V 6.0. We of course provide support for each new Windows version as it releases. You do qualify for upgrade pricing. Have your old Serial Number handy when you place your online order. 1) Log on to our web site: www.commandtechnology.com 2) Click on tab Products at top center of home page. 3) There are three text hot spots to the right of product description for Graphic Edition. There are also three text hot spots to the right of product description for Standard Edition. 4) Click on Price to see prices. 5) Click on Try to download demo. 6) Click on Buy to purchase. Tim Tetiva CTC Sales -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM's financial results ?
and maybe a COBOL comeback too . . 'and old man CICS just keeps rolling along' tralala'. - Original Message - From: Warren Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 4:50 PM Subject: Re: IBM's financial results ? I think that IBM did a brilliant job of keeping the mainframe alive when industry, academia etc pronounced the mainframe dead in 1980. VSE died and came back, VM died and came back, linux runs on the mainframe and soon the wonderful Windows will be able to run on the mainframe! -- Original message from Mohammad Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -- May be they just know how to do it but I'm sure there are a lot of conspiracy theories about it as well. I guess a google search for such theories will be more productive than a query here at IBM-MAIN. On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 09:34:13 -0500, Anton Britz wrote: Hi, Just to get all these Wandering minds on to something more productive : How do you think IBM keeps their financial results so rosy ? All the other vendors have annouced buy backs ex. Dell/Sun etc but IBM still announced fantastic results. Something smells fishy some where.. Anton -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Retirement
Well Gabe, You should get RDz and some mainframe OS on a home PC then you can spend tons of time answering all the ignorant questions I an going to cook up :-) Graham - Original Message - From: Gabe Torres [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 3:14 PM Subject: Re: Retirement Would love to find part-time work, but there are only 3 mainframes within 150 miles. Not much here in Nevada. I plan on getting my sailboat into the water this summer, and spending more time with the grandkids, take some classes,... Most of my Sysprog Friends whom I worked with over the last 30 years have already retired. It was difficult to find time with them because they are on a different schedule. I Plan on hooking up with them and do the camping, fishing..etc. gabe - Edward E Jaffe: Congratulations! What will you be doing in your second career? Gabe Torres wrote: To All on this Listserv, I will be retiring in short order. I wanted to extend my appreciation to current and past members of this list for all the help provided over the years. The resources available on this list are absolutely incredible. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RDz
Bill, Exactly what I need to hear about its scope. About the documentation, my older CICS NT documentation taught me about: start cicsrun . . to start CICS, but I never did find how to successfully add -userid -password -tansactionID parms thus automatically invoking the transaction my software just generated - big nuisance. Would also like to trigger some kind of script that would automatically run thru some of the BMS screens just to make sure all looked OK - just a fishing trip:-). and to compile my Cobol/XCICS pgms I use: set tempmem=on cob2 %1.cbl -qlib,xref,ssrange,nosequence,map,trunc(bin) -g -Ie:\conrad\temcc -Ic:\copylibg If RDz documentation does describe both of the above, for the time being, this is sufficient. But the start cicsrun with parms would sure be a bonus - I hope it's there. As for NOT being the target audience, it seems then that many of us must be used to that:-( Merci beaucoup pour l'info. Graham - Original Message - From: Bill Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 5:53 PM Subject: RDz Both officially and unofficially, MANY people have communicated to IBM that WSED, then WDz, then RDz are VERY poorly documented or marketed to those doing mainframe (or PC) development for the mainframe (or PC) but WITHOUT a z/OS connection. NOT speaking for IBM, it appears that the IBM internal business case is for this product (line) to be for sites with mainframes and mainframe connections. Everyone (that I have ever talked to) says it CAN be used for PC stand-alone development (for PC apps) or for mainframe apps - but that simply is NOT the target audience. You need to be aware that this is NOT just a marketing documentation issue. You will find the same problem (issue?) once you get the actual product documentation. Graham Hobbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Brian, Will contact you offline. Thanks. But while I'm online I will put out a small plea to IBM - all the websites about RDz are totally oriented to the big guns, the monied shops, the 'HOST'. Well I don't have a HOST. I'd really like to see just one site that deals with the guy who wants to run with the likes of RDz but just on a PC - what I would get for the $800, how much like my old mainframe world can I recreate. I like that stuff, I know it, am retired and I'd sure like to pursue some ideas. The likes of VB, Java, .Net etc don't yet cut it for me, one day probably, but right now give me Cobol and CICS and I'll do stuff. Same goes for MF, and who else? Peev done. Graham - Original Message - From: Brian Westerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 12:47 AM Subject: Re: RDz Hi, If you send me your address off line, I'll download the RDz files for the trial and send them to you. I have a T1, so it will only take a very short amount of time to download. I can DHL them to you and you can have them the next day, or USPS Priority Mail in 2 days. The files in total appear to be about 6.98GB so they will fit on one Double layer DVD or two regular ones, whichever you prefer. Do you have access to a mainframe (or z/os under Hercules) to be able to install the operating system side of things? Also, you can access a DB/2 platform (if you have one), and you do have access via file manager to VSAM files as well, I had to look at the product specs to be sure. Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RDz
Brian, Will contact you offline. Thanks. But while I'm online I will put out a small plea to IBM - all the websites about RDz are totally oriented to the big guns, the monied shops, the 'HOST'. Well I don't have a HOST. I'd really like to see just one site that deals with the guy who wants to run with the likes of RDz but just on a PC - what I would get for the $800, how much like my old mainframe world can I recreate. I like that stuff, I know it, am retired and I'd sure like to pursue some ideas. The likes of VB, Java, .Net etc don't yet cut it for me, one day probably, but right now give me Cobol and CICS and I'll do stuff. Same goes for MF, and who else? Peev done. Graham - Original Message - From: Brian Westerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 12:47 AM Subject: Re: RDz Hi, If you send me your address off line, I'll download the RDz files for the trial and send them to you. I have a T1, so it will only take a very short amount of time to download. I can DHL them to you and you can have them the next day, or USPS Priority Mail in 2 days. The files in total appear to be about 6.98GB so they will fit on one Double layer DVD or two regular ones, whichever you prefer. Do you have access to a mainframe (or z/os under Hercules) to be able to install the operating system side of things? Also, you can access a DB/2 platform (if you have one), and you do have access via file manager to VSAM files as well, I had to look at the product specs to be sure. Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RDz
Hello Brian, Again thanks for the info - you seem to be well aware of this RDz so I'll try my luck again. I don't expect RDz to create VSAM KSDS files for me. My old COBOL/CICS came with Pervasive's bTrieve into which I fed sequential files and out came emulated VSAM KSDS's and my COBOL/CICS programs successfully accessed them. Am hoping to hear that RDz does something like this . . I thought I had read (but can't find now) that there was a VSAM File Manager 'thing'. Is clear that with PC DB2 V9 such access is possible. Might you know about this? I am at my cottage for the next three months, 1000km from my home, high speed access and the retailer who sells me laptops from time to time (. . and there if troubles). So getting another laptop with the kind of capabilities you suggest is not that simple. Dialup speed at the cottage also probibits much. So a) having an appropriate computer, b) being able to download the 60 day trial are problems. The local one room library has a Vista Compaq with .5 meg of RAM - they will find your comments about RAM/Vista/speed very interesting. It has 'high-speed' capability via what I don't know yet. But when I tried to download OpenOffice the time window said it would take three hours. I called my retailer and he said it should be 3-10 minutes! So this is their 'high-speed' - am looking into it. What's crossing my mind is a) make sure RDz does what I want, b) buy the CD media pack, c) load in onto my average PC, d) plan on not using the IDE (guessing this to be the hog and not why I need RDz), e) build the permanent solution when I get home. Did I burden you or what:-))). Have you got RDz on a PC? Many thanks Graham - Original Message - From: Brian Westerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 8:41 PM Subject: Re: RDz Hi, You can use it to build applications that access VSAM, but I don't think it generates VSAM files on your PC if that's what you are asking. There is a debugger, and it's pretty nice. I do agree that you don't want to be running this on a old Pentium 3 or 4, you should have at least a Dual Core PC (or laptop), with a minimum of 2GB of memory, (if you're running Vista, get 4GB), memory is very cheap (if you have the free slots), and places like BUY.COM and OUTPOST.COM (as well as many others) have sales almost every other week for 2GB at about $50 or less, so loading up is cheap, but if you have Win/XP then more than 2GB is just a waste. You are correct in the the $800 is for the entire catalog, (hundreds of programs), for the full year, but it's only a good deal if you can use them. I still urge you to do the 60 day trial first to make sure it's going to work for you, the Value Option upgrade option only takes a day or two to apply for and get, and if you can't tell if it will work for you in the first 30 pr 40 days then you probably don't need what it can offer anyway. Let me know if I can help you. Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
RDz
Hello again, Am taking the liberty of responding and thanking all in this one post. But if I might, two mini questions: - does it have a PC VSAM emulator - does it have a PC debugger my docs don't tell me (ominous!). Brian, Got the impression the $800 might be annually renewable. My Software Catalog says May 2008 but am very happy you've saw RDz therein. Thought about Hercules - too many complications. Even if I ONLY got a COBOL compiler that works under Windows XP for the $800 that would be enough for me (10 years ago it and CICS cost me $3000). Timothy, I'm small time dialup Windows user developing a mainframe package, have no mainframe. For $6500 I threw in Canadian conversion, taxes, etc. I doubt if the discounts would apply (I have old PC Cobol compiler and CICS for NT) . . too bad for me :-) but you're right, I see this as a VERY good deal. This RDz has super stuff therein and if not all I need is there, the Software Catalogue has it. James, Not a 'shop' James, just a PC with 1998 COBOL, CICS etc so SCLM not an issue. I have a code generator that gens CICS programs and ONLY BMS screens - I need to gen other front ends thus need the Webby CICS in RDz. I am reassured to hear about the slick bit of PC RDz. As for the 'bargain' question, like I say, the whole catalogue seems to be out there for the $800. jc, You're going to cost me a lot of money, seems my 'moderate' laptop might not cut it! With dialup (am at cottage) the three hour trials aren't practical - I generate COBOL/CICS pgms and all I ask from RDz is to compile and link them, I then run a .cmd line update to CICS tables, run the transaction, very basic - really not interested in RDz's IDE (I don't think). Am delighted to hear your 'wrappers' comment. Doc Farmer, . . what's your number :-) Gentlemen, my thanks, was worth the post. Graham Hobbs -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Rational Developer for System z
Hello, Acronyms first: WDz = Websphere Developer for System z V7.0 RDz = Rational Developer for System z V7.1 According to an IBM website 'With this new release WDz has been renamed to RDz'. Have been out of the mainframe field (any field that is) for several years now, looking to 'acquire' RDz for a laptop without host connection (at least not for a while) for small development purposes - can't let go:-). Am specifically interested in the COBOL compiler, CICS (whatever it's called these days), CTG, VSAM emulator, DB2 and the current debugger. Not really sure about the IDE or other stuff that seems to go with the package (although David Crayford gave me some clues - thanks - which 10%?). So WDz 7.0 + 1 Version = RDz V7.1 BUT am not sure of the exact differences in the releases (many pages of specs, am working on it). RDz goes for about US$6500. WDz can be had (it seems) via Partnerworld under a thing called IBM Software Access for 1 Year $800 (subsequent years are the same price I think). Not only that, when one looks at the IBM Software Catalog there is tons of heavy stuff out there - all for the one price! Find it hard to understand why RDz isn't there . . or is the single WDz to RDz release upgrade that significant (noting it is a 'release' not a 'version' upgrade). My questions are: a) is there anybody in a similiar position as myself. b) anybody involved in this 'isolated' use of RDz or WDz. I am sorry about the generality of the foregoing but any comments would be appreciated. Many thanks Graham Hobbs P.S. An aside - I followed the FLEX debacle and I know I'm not talking mainframe here, but if the $800 price is true, maybe this goes partway to a pretty cheap solution - or am I off track here (not knowing what FLEX'ers were doing). P.P.S. If RDz (or WDz) comes to pass for me, am really quite scared about installing all that stuff, but will save these questions for later . . -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CICS/BMS greenies to GUI's
About the XMI info - thanks. - Original Message - From: Shedlock, George [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 9:01 AM Subject: Re: CICS/BMS greenies to GUI's Graham, I had to ask. ;) (snip) Craig - I can't read CBT775; its a zip containing one .XMI; on a PC, what can read a .XMI? Would really like to look into this one. You really started something with POX:-) (/snip) If you go to http://cbttape.org on the top left part of the page is a link to Xmit Manager. It is a PC based program to examine, extract and manage the content of .XMI files. George -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CICS/BMS greenies to GUI's
Gentlemen, Thanks for the responses, my world nowadays is a PC with 1990's Cobol/CICS software (no Web stuff), so looking for GUI/Web front ends for my generator without the knowledge/tools is awkward, but what I've gained is a good start .. Craig - I can't read CBT775; its a zip containing one .XMI; on a PC, what can read a .XMI? Would really like to look into this one. You really started something with POX:-) Eric - haven't looked at your site yet. Tim - lots of pointers, thanks, will go there. John - my PC - it doesn't know about //.. ASMA90etc - sounds like answers I'm not going to see. Chuck - will be looking at your site. George - can you have a copy - NO. :-) It's just not ready yet, almost demonstrable, website sometime this summer where you'll be able to try it. Rich - my terminolgy is naive but . . on my Agent software newsgroup is bit.listserv.cics-l - nobody posts there so I went to bit.listserv.ibm-main. That's what I meant about dormant CICS. I do subscribe to the CICS-L listerv and get all the emails but (probably my ignorance) never seemed to be able to post there. Bill Klein has mostly set me straight. My original post should have gone to CICS-L. ? - whoever mentioned Rational Developer for Systemz - yes am looking into it. - Original Message - From: Bill Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 7:41 PM Subject: Fw: CICS/BMS greenies to GUI's This note was posted directly to the USENET newsgroup and hasn't had many replies. I am forwarding it to the list-server, to see if more people have input on it. (It is also in the comp.lang.cobol newsgroup). Graham Hobbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello, Big technical challenge for me so here I am again. Is CICS but that group seems dormant. I have a small system that generates Cobol/CICS programs but particularly generates several BMS Assembler macros (old green screens). After compiles and assembles the CICS transaction works fine. This is stuff I know well. Very briefly, the BMS I generate looks like: . . DFHMSD . . etc . . DFHMDI . . etc . . DFHMDF's etc END But I'd like to also generate a GUI frontend be it/they Java or HTML or what other possibilities are there. Might anybody have any pointers as to where I might begin? Articles, references, code samples (especially), etc? Thanks. Graham Hobbs ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CICS/BMS greenies to GUI's
Thanks Bill. - Original Message - From: Bill Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 7:41 PM Subject: Fw: CICS/BMS greenies to GUI's This note was posted directly to the USENET newsgroup and hasn't had many replies. I am forwarding it to the list-server, to see if more people have input on it. (It is also in the comp.lang.cobol newsgroup). Graham Hobbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello, Big technical challenge for me so here I am again. Is CICS but that group seems dormant. I have a small system that generates Cobol/CICS programs but particularly generates several BMS Assembler macros (old green screens). After compiles and assembles the CICS transaction works fine. This is stuff I know well. Very briefly, the BMS I generate looks like: . . DFHMSD . . etc . . DFHMDI . . etc . . DFHMDF's etc END But I'd like to also generate a GUI frontend be it/they Java or HTML or what other possibilities are there. Might anybody have any pointers as to where I might begin? Articles, references, code samples (especially), etc? Thanks. Graham Hobbs ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
