Re: Any one have a solution for this
Jim, Technically, this is not a problem. If you had real physical tapes, then the data would be available until the tape was overwritten. Several VTS vendors provide this feature for compatibility purposes. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Where can you get a Minor in Mainframe?
What ever happened to the Virtual Universe Operating System that was announced back in the late 70s? Or did IBM keep that one for themselves? Ted MacNEIL wrote: my kids tell me I am older than dirt I'm older than the guy who made dirt! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: S237-04 and tapes
Excuse me, but yes, you are correct. Pretty hard to share UCBs for tapes...grin... Choate, Bill wrote: Are you thinking of shared UCW instead of shared UCB? Bill Choate Emory University AAIT -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Arnett Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 4:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: S237-04 and tapes I ran into this several years back...Okay, 15 years...with IBM 3422 tapes. According to the IBM CE, the erase gaps were not being written properly to the tapes when a write error occured. It wasn't until I went to add a string of 3420 Mod 8s that I spotted an error made by my precessor in the definition of the 3422s. He had set them up without shared UCBs. As I understand error recovery on 3420s and 3422s, the errors on these devices are posted through the UCB of the controller(device 0). This is not a restriction with 3480/3490s, so not sure what drives still require shared UCBs, but it is something to verify. R.S. wrote: I observed an abend S237-04, when reading dataset from tape (using IEBGENER). The manual says it is due to discrepancy between # of blocks read and the value written to EOF label. The manual also suggests it can be hardware error. Well... The drive looks OK - only one tape is affected, the media looks OK (i.e. can be read using BLP). Q: What component to suspect ? drive ? system ? application ? Any clue ? Regards -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: S237-04 and tapes
I ran into this several years back...Okay, 15 years...with IBM 3422 tapes. According to the IBM CE, the erase gaps were not being written properly to the tapes when a write error occured. It wasn't until I went to add a string of 3420 Mod 8s that I spotted an error made by my precessor in the definition of the 3422s. He had set them up without shared UCBs. As I understand error recovery on 3420s and 3422s, the errors on these devices are posted through the UCB of the controller(device 0). This is not a restriction with 3480/3490s, so not sure what drives still require shared UCBs, but it is something to verify. R.S. wrote: I observed an abend S237-04, when reading dataset from tape (using IEBGENER). The manual says it is due to discrepancy between # of blocks read and the value written to EOF label. The manual also suggests it can be hardware error. Well... The drive looks OK - only one tape is affected, the media looks OK (i.e. can be read using BLP). Q: What component to suspect ? drive ? system ? application ? Any clue ? Regards -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Enterprise Extender Requirements on z/OS
That would depend on if your presently have two systems communication in a subarea network that you are moving to EE. It was relatively painless to simply add APPN to an existing subarea network. I added the required parms in the VTAM startup for the LPAR and bounced VTAM. Viola(as in the musical instrument), it was working. Adding the EE parms to VTAM and TCP/IP was the real trick. All documentation points to using EE over a QDIO OSA and all I had were non-QDIO OSA ports. I don't have the luxury of doing a POR to change one of them, so I had to make it work using non-QDIO. However, it does work that way. Mark T. Regan, K8MTR wrote: Your big change/challenge will be to implement APPN first. If you have access to the SHARE web site, there have been a lot of presentations on implementing EE. Mark T. Regan, K8MTR U.S. Navy Retired, CTO1, 1969-1991 - Original Message From: Laine, Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 5:38:50 PM Subject: Enterprise Extender Requirements on z/OS I'm researching what resources are required to implement Enterprise Extender on a z/OS 1.4 system? Would I need to install any additional software/hardware on our 2086-A04? What I think thus far is a GigaBit OSA card is needed with some additional VTAM coding, right? TIA, Rogers Confidentiality Notice: This E-Mail transmission (and/or the documents accompanying it) may contain information belonging to the sender which is confidential, privileged and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. The information is intended only for the use of the individual(s) or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this E-Mail transmission in error, please immediately notify us by return E-Mail or telephone to arrange for return of its contents including any documents. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Coupling Facility -- needed?
If you use the GUI program Hardware Configuration Manager, you give him the two CHPIDs you want to configure, and how many devices you want genned, and he automatically does all fo the devices for you along with their interconnects. I, like you, spent hours/weeks doing the configuration. Found out about HCM and did the new I/O gen in one shot. Rick Fochtman wrote: --snip- I heard some IBM'ers in the past say any more than one system in a GRS Ring is too many. Ours runs great wih 3 Lpars though. i was under the impression that the whole thing would be slowed down by the Lpar with the least number of Mips but our Sysprog one is like 13 Mips or something and the whole thing flies and yes we do run DB2... ---unsnip I ran GRS in a 4-system ring using only ESCON CTC connections and never experienced any performance problems, but I was not running DB2. YMMV The most difficult part that I found was defining the ESCON CTC devices, and the related types of connections, in the IOCDS. Several Sundays shot in trial-and-error attempts, since local talent was fairly inexperienced at that time. I defined strings of 16 devices for each LPAR so my Communications Kiddies could have lots of connections if they wanted them. --- [This E-mail has been scanned for viruses by the YourNet Connection Virus system] [For more information, please go to http://www.ync.net/YourMAIL] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: setting up GRS in a monoplex between 2 LPARS.
If you don't have a coupling facility, you will. Different CTCs, though. GRS uses BCTC and basic sysplex uses SCTC. John Norgauer wrote: Will I still need the CTC definitions when I go the XCF solutions in order to implement GRS? John Norgauer University of California Davis Medical Center 2315 Stockton Blvd ASB 1300 Sacramento, Ca 95817 916-734-0536 SYSTEMS PROGRAMMING.. Guilty, until proven innocent !! JN 2004 Hardware eventually breaks - Software eventually works anon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: I love TCPIP (not!)
Hree is what I would use...others may object...grin... BEGINROUTES ; All hypersocket traffic - Use your interface, not HIPERLF6 ROUTE 192.10.1.0/24 = HIPERLF6 MTU 8192 ; Where is the gateway? ROUTE 10.xxx.xxx.xxx/32 = ETH1 MTU 1492 ; All other traffic defaults here ROUTE DEFAULT 010.xxx.xxx.xxx ETH1 MTU 1492 ENDROUTES ; 10.xxx.xxx.xxx is your gateway address Matthew Stitt wrote: Having fun with TCPIP. Got some systems which use the GATEWAY statements. I want to convert them to ROUTE statements. I also have an OSA port and a HiperSockets port defined. I want the traffic between the LPARS to use the HiperSockets, and everthing else to use the OSA port. Default route to use the OSA port. OSA is 10.x.x.x for all traffic. HiperSocket is 192.10.x.x for traffic. Each LPAR is 192.10.1.xxx. Would someone care to help get this stuff working the way I want? Thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Help With BLANK Scree using TN3270
This symptom could occur if the TCPPARMS has terminals defined that do not exist in the started VTAM members. The connection to TCP would work properly, but the USSMSG would never be displayed. Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/16/2006 at 02:13 PM, Sonny Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The other interesting point is that I can logon without any problems if I in the same network. In other words, it is not an emulator problem. That doesn't follow. You need a trace in order to know who's on first. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OT - J B Hunt
Except that he said that he forwarded it...not replied to it...and jbhunt.com is a valid company dns entry for the J. B. Hunt trucking firm. Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: Ed Finnell wrote: I forwarded it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) didn't bounce, but haven't heard anything back either. NO! Don't reply to them. Now you probably signalled them that your mail address is live and active. These 'bouncing' mails are actually bait to confirm e-mail addresses to be used in future spam/phishing/spear phishing/scam e-mails. Drop that senders/baiters in a kill file for immediate delete. Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht South Africa -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Justifying SHARE (was SHARE in Baltimore, August 13-18, 2006)
If your company does not have an education budget, tie the costs of a Share session to your next upgrade, especially if it is a large release jump. The what's new classes are a treasure trove of information if you have been out of the mainstream for awhile. I have done this with the one employer that did not have an education budget. They ended up allocating the amount into the budget every two years after that. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Track capacity?
To answer the question about the number fo records...75 per track from 94 to 124 bytes. 9300 bytes per track at that rate. If I remember the process for space by blocks, the answer to the first question is seven cylinders and one cylinder.(4640/45 blocks/track/15 tracks per cylinder primary and 580/45/15 secondary). Charles Mills wrote: I care because I am trying to debug a problem at a customer site. There are about a thousand considerations that I have left out of my note - life is more complex than the average listserve question. If I had posted the entire universe of issues, it would have been a very long note. I am looking for clues so as to debug how an unexpected SB37-04 might have come about. I don't have direct to the customer machine. The customer personnel are incredibly busy. Is that sufficient justification for asking this question? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 12:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Track capacity? I'll ask Why to you care? and suggest try it and see :) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Track capacity?
Charles, Here is the answer to your original question. There is a PDF available at the following url...http://www.dtssoftware.com/Ref%20Guide9.01.pdf Steve Arnett. Charles Mills wrote: Where can I find 3390 track capacity tables or formulas? I haven't done this in so long I think the last time I did this it was for a 2314. Specifically, I am trying to figure out: - If the DD statement says SPACE=(605,(4640,580)) how many tracks will have been allocated (primary and each secondary)? - If the program actually wrote 121-byte blocks (yes, I know) how many of those would fit on a track? Thanks, Charles Mills +1-707-291-0908 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Fw: Help wanted : COBOL/QSAM - Incorrect RDW
The only difference is the RECORDING MODE IS. For spanned it is S and for variable it is V. The 01 level, which the original poster was asking about is the same for both. I guess I should have given this one that I use to read the DCOLLECT output: FD DCOLIN BLOCK CONTAINS 0 RECORDS RECORD CONTAINS 3 TO 928 CHARACTERS RECORDING MODE IS V. 01 DCOLIN-REC. 02 DCOLIN-REC-LENPIC S9(2) COMP. 02 DCOLIN-VARYABLE. 03 DCOL-AREA PIC X(1) OCCURS 1 TO 926 DEPENDING ON DCOLIN-REC-LEN. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Fw: Fw: Help wanted : COBOL/QSAM - Incorrect RDW
Actually, thanks. I have simply been using a sledge hammer to get my data read. You are correct that there are times that it doesn't work. My fallback has always been to drop into ALC and code the file read there. I will try using the RECORD VARYING IN SIZE and see how it works out for me. It goes to show that this forum isn't just good for the original posters, but for the responders, as well. Bill Klein wrote: In COBOL terms there is a WORLD of difference between the 2 types of files, but some comments (in general). 1) You really should start using the RECORD VARYING IN SIZE rather than the RECORD CONTAINS n TO m - phrase in your FD. The former is guaranteed to be a variable format file (all compilers, all settings) - while the latter is NOT. 2) If you use the RECORD VARYING IN SIZE phrase, you can simply DROP the RECORD FORMAT IS V phrase which is an IBM extension and not portable to other compilers. 3) Once you DO use the RECORD VARYING IN SIZE phrase, you can make the ODO (Occurs Depending On phrase set to a the field specified in it. This allows you to properly handle variable format files that do NOT contain their length field within each record. *** I am NOT trying to say that your code doesn't work as you say it does, there simply ARE better ways to code it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Fw: Help wanted : COBOL/QSAM - Incorrect RDW
Here's what I use with LE/COBOL 2.2 to read the SMF datasets...One could argue that the OCCURS should be from 2 and not from 1... FD SMF30IN BLOCK CONTAINS 0 RECORDS RECORD CONTAINS 0 CHARACTERS RECORDING MODE IS S. 01 SMFREC-REC. 02 SMFREC-REC-LENPIC S9(2) COMP. 02 SMF30IN-VARYABLE. 03 SMF30-AREA PIC X(1) OCCURS 1 TO 32754 DEPENDING ON SMFREC-REC-LEN. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: TCP/IP JES2 CICS
Ted, I have been out of the loop for a little while, so I apologize if someone has already answered your questions. I will answer your last question first, since it is the easiest. Yes, CICS talks TCP/IP, or at least has APIs to permit a person to code programs to use sockets, but CICS does not talk LPR. Most of the printers in our system that are connected to VPS look like a line printer daemon(LPD) on a remote system. If someone would write an LPR piece to CICS, then we wouldn't need DRS or VPS in the loop. DRS being the guy to queue SNA device(LU 3) print to JES to be picked up by VPS. RJE might be a whole nother can o worms to implement using 3770 and 3780 devices communicating directly to JES2 over TCP/IP. The easiest implementation of RJE I have seen is to use FTP to the host to route the JCL inbound and the sysout outbound. The only parts missing would be the console commands and the punch output. Though the latter could probably be managed. I have used my PC workstation to submit jobs and receive print from an MVS system that has TCP/IP up, but does not have TSO up yet. Here is a link to one site that explains how to do it...http://prepro.umsystem.edu/ums/departments/is/itss/documentation/ftp.html...You can do google searches to others, as well. Steve Arnett Ted MacNEIL wrote: First, I wish to thank everybody for their responses. But, we are not a big NJE shop. We are still pretty heavy in RJE world-wide. Approximately 2200 RJE printers defined and 650 in use. So, my question is: Does JES2 do RJE under TCP/IP? I assume since it does NJE it will do RJE, but I cannot find definitive documentation. And, when I was talking about CICS, I meant for printing. Somebody said CICS has understood TCP/IP for years. Then, why does everybody still the VPS component (or equivalent) for CICS? Again, can somebody point me to the documentation? - -teD 300,000 Kilometres per Second Not only is it a good idea! It's the LAW!!! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Support for MVS/SP 3.2.2 on zSeries?
Yea and some of us didn't have the CS (or ES) to run SMS anyway! Though I did use IGDZILLA to pack LPA so that it overflowed to COMMON with nothing usable in PLPA. Ed Gould wrote: IIRC there was an extra cost for DFP for 3.2 and that, IIRC was for SMS support. I had to fight the bean counters on the $25 a month (I thinks thats the number). In any case this was about 10 years ago and its not worth arguing about. SOme of us had to fight for every penny. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Support for MVS/SP 3.2.2 on zSeries???
Tom, I was not picking on you. I was trying to get the thread back on track. I was curious about the correct answer to the question and did not feel that the thread was going anywhere. After my post(not because of it, mind you), I saw some superb posts that laid all of the difficulties out, including some useful alternatives. I apologize if I offended you in any way. Steve A. Tom Schmidt wrote: Steve, The answer to his question was no. I expanded on some issues he could expect to find - some sooner, some later. He also ought to expect issues with error recovery (although I'm on a system that IS currently supported and we found a very new issue with error recovery just last week... but the difference is that we CAN expect to see a fix sometime relatively soon). Your post didn't enlighten the user's original request either, it merely took my answers to task. I didn't make assumptions on his Y2K concerns, nor did I make the leap of faith that he has the license. If he is running his MVS/SP 3.2.2 system now (which I doubt) then he is trying to mix old (presumably cheap) software with newer, less expensive hardware... I would expect some fallout to come from that combination. Maybe the O.P. will explain his MVS/SP 3.2.2 designation better. Is is really MVS/ESA 3.1.3 + DFP 3.2, or is it something different? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3380-3390 Conversion - DISAPPOINTMENT
Ed Gould wrote: On M John, Had not heard about that parm before. I looked it up and it was as clear as mud... (ok dark bear). It is obviously Friday! How much clearer is a light bear? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Assembler question
Are you sure that you wanted to do a L 10,ADR1 and not a LA 10,ADR1? If you use the LA, then both MVCs would result in the same data. Bill Larsen wrote: Dear all (...) L 10,ADR1 MVC ZON,0(10) === (XX) (..) ADR1 DS F === why when i replace (XX) by MVC ZON,ADR1 , i don't have the same value in ZON ??? Thank you -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Error message DFHFC0966
Another option would be to split the dataset into two datasets less than 4GB and using the RBA determine which one to read. If you are reading it sequentialy, heaven forbid, put logic in the program to read one and then the other. All writes would go to the second dataset(until you exhaust the 4GB for it). McKown, John wrote: What you have to do is use something other than an ESDS file. The 4Gb barrier is a CICS one, not a z/OS one. It is still a documented restriction in CICS/TS 3.1. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer UICI Insurance Center Information Technology -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: map of MVS control blocks
The Data Areas for 1.7 are online here...http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/Shelves/IEA2BK60 Bill Larsen wrote: Dear all I am looking for a map of mvs control blocks with all the relations between them, do you know where i can have it ? Regards -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IEE345I command authority error from batch
I am running z/OS 1.7 and TS 1.3 and I was able to run the job below and it functioned properly... // JOB (000),'', // MSGCLASS=X,CLASS=C,MSGLEVEL=(1,1), // NOTIFY=SYSUID //BR14 EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 // COMMAND 'F CICSTS,CEMT I TAS' However, I have AICONS specified and have a model console definition specified. I am running in the SYS1 group, so this may not be a true test of your issue. I tried it with a general user and got the following: ICH408I USER( ) GROUP() NAME(TEST-PROGRAMMER) MVS.MODIFY.STC.CICSTS.CICSTS CL(OPERCMDS) INSUFFICIENT ACCESS AUTHORITY FROM MVS.** (G) ACCESS INTENT(UPDATE ) ACCESS ALLOWED(NONE ) I hope this helps... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Pod slurping?
The fact that USB ports are on the backs of PCs (rather than the fronts) indicates they were designed for cubicle-dwellers. I have three computers at home with USB ports on the front. I also have cables that allow back mounted USBs to be used easily. They were not designed for cubicle-dwellers, they were designed for portability and compatibility. Phil Payne wrote: A point made in http://www.isham-research.co.uk/dd.html for about the last couple of years. Scan down to data stick. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: System code EFF
If EFF is an error out of SVC 255, then he would have to have it installed or he would get an FFF, not an EFF. Schiradin,Roland HG-Dir itb-db/dc wrote: Seems SVC 255 is not defined to the system. Roland -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jorge Garcia Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 2:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: System code EFF We have a problem with abend SEFF in a batch job. We are looking for it in all places (IBM-MAIN, ibm.com, google, IBM Manuals z/os 1.6 ) and we don't have find something. The abend step is about a access program to IDMS database in retrieval (NO update mode). We can't understand why we can't find this system code in anywhere. We paste the abend below: 02.12.10 JOB70013 IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT 754 754 SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=EFF 754 TIME=02.12.05 SEQ=00921 CPU= ASID=0041 754 PSW AT TIME OF ERROR 078D2000 8005EA42 ILC 2 INTC FF 754ACTIVE LOAD MODULE ADDRESS=00058310 OFFSET= 754NAME=RHDCOMVS 754DATA AT PSW 0005EA3C - 0AFF07F4 E2C5C3E4 754GR 0: 0001 1: 00088008 754 2: 000714DC 3: 0007 754 4: 8005EB34 5: 0005EA40 754 6: 0005EA10 7: 00070728 754 8: 00088008 9: 00070E20 754 A: 00068050 B: 0005D1C8 754 C: 0005EA4C D: 000716E4 754 E: 0005DA08 F: C3C4D4E2 754 END OF SYMPTOM DUMP 02.12.10 JOB70013 IEF450I R0170396 PASO030 - ABEND=SEFF U REASON= -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Mainframe Programmer on EBay
When did CICS, DB2, IMS, and IDMS become languages? Besides ALC, where are PL/I and RPG II. For that kind of money, I would expect those to be included, as well! Porowski, Ken wrote: Is this what we have to look forward to? Ken You are bidding on a technology icon, capable of generating true legacy code in the following languages (Cobol, CICS, DB2, IMS, IDMS, JCL, IBM Utilities) and much more. Please bid with confidence and good luck in acquiring this rare and valuable find. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Moving from CA-MIM to GRS.
I wouldn't say GRS is free...Two escon cables and four escon channels have some value...Don't they? Ed Gould wrote: On Feb 6, 2006, at 12:00 AM, Ted MacNEIL wrote: --SNIP--- 2. $E;$H;$C processing doesn't happen (if you use that). The jobs will just sit there and wait for ENQ's to resolve. Solution: a few more INIT's. Big bennie: GRS is 'free'. MIM costs money. MIM is from CA. This is a big issue to companies that want to stay out of CA clutches. I have seen go to great measure to sand up and say I am CA Free! Ed There is a REDBOOK on conversion from MIM to GRS! - -teD I’m an enthusiastic proselytiser of the universal panacea I believe in! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What can you do on the PC that is like M/F Sysmgt
We are dumping What's Up in favor of Nimbus. Don't know the polotics involved...What's Up, the way it is used at our shop is very simple. Tells us what is up or down. Nimbus allows monitoring of up/down status, processes, CPU utilization, disk utilization, memory utilization, etc...for all of our servers except the mainframe. I am still hammering on them for z./OS support. Ed Finnell wrote: In a message dated 2/1/2006 4:51:25 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyone know of anything of this ilk? You might like Whatsup Pro at _http://www.ipswitch.com/_ (http://www.ipswitch.com/) . Highly configurable(almost too much), but the PHB's can even understand it. The operators like it 'cause they don't have to do anything except click on hot spots. Depending on network size and number of servers monitored might need a healthy PC to run it on, but they're relatively cheap. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What can you do on the PC that is like M/F Sysmgt
Hmmm...polo-tics...Must be some new source for Lime Disease... Steve Arnett wrote: We are dumping What's Up in favor of Nimbus. Don't know the polotics involved...What's Up, the way it is used at our shop is very simple. Tells us what is up or down. Nimbus allows monitoring of up/down status, processes, CPU utilization, disk utilization, memory utilization, etc...for all of our servers except the mainframe. I am still hammering on them for z./OS support. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Mount a tape
There are also REAL machines out there that are trying to act like massive mainframes, not just PCs. The MP/3000 is the size of a two drawer filing cabinet, but can have 200+ MIPs(H70). That is a small machine, but not a small system! Chris Mason wrote: Matthew, I dare say you've managed to imagine Jerry's circumstances somewhat better than the rest of us. Having only recently started dabbling in this newsgroup I haven't really got my head around the concept of one man (or one woman) installations with a PC pretending to be the massive mainframe of my feeble imagination with roomfuls of spinning disks and tapes and blinking lights everywhere. Chris Mason -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Integrated Console Controller Problem?
That happens only if we deactivate an LPAR. I would think that the POR would always drop the sessions, since, until the POR completes, there is no ICC. If all I do is shut down, quiesce, and then load the opsys, I do not loose the session. We have found that if you use Reflections and do a CUT, it locks the session long enough to drop the console. TN3270plus does not suffer from this. Kittendorf, Craig wrote: Hi, We have a test lpar running on our new z890 and I have configured the ICC. We have Attachmate on the PC connected to the ICC. When the LPAR was shutdown and POR the Attachmate emulator sessions for both Console and VTAM closed completely. Not just disconnected, but closed. Of course, when we IPL'd they weren't available. BTW, we are still using real 3174s also. 1) Anyone else using Attachmate (myEXTRA Enterprise 7.1a) ? 2) Anyone else have a problem with the emulator session closing ? Thanks, Craig -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Mount a tape
There is still a possibility that Bruce did not help him. If he is running Hercules under Linux, he may have wanted to know how to a) access an AWSTAPE format tape image or b) how to issue a Linux mount command to access a 3480/3490/etc cartridge. Desi de la Garza wrote: Way to go Bruce. Helping out Jerry has made you a better person no matter how silly the question was. Thanks, Desi -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Integrated Console Controller Problem?
I have to agree. I don't get that behavior with either Reflections or TN3270plus. Jousma, David wrote: Sounds like an emulator setting to me. I don't use attachmate, so I cannot answer. Dave -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Basic question on deleting datasets
Since this is a recuring function that you will be performing and I didn't see this suggestion on the list, I will suggest it...Write a program to read the IEHLIST output and generate your deletes from that. You can concatenate the IEHLIST datasets from the 20 packs as your input. I have two similar processes that I use to get all of the datasets in a system by using either LISTCAT output or IEHLIST output. The former is a two step process, the first step to list all of the catalogues and the second step to list all of the datasets in those catalogues. This job is used to compare the contents of two systems to determine if any orphaned datasets exist before an upgrade. The second one is for recataloguing datasets for new sysres volumes and catalog volumes. Pommier, Rex R. wrote: Hi. I'm afraid I'm in a can't see the forest because of the trees situation which probably has a very easy answer that I can't see. I have a disk pack that I need to get a large subset of the datasets off it as well as uncataloged. Is there some way using IDCAMS or DFSMSdss to accomplish this using wildcards so I don't have to list each dataset separately? IDCAMS apparently only allows me to use a single-qualifier wildcard which won't do it. Unless somebody has a better idea as how to proceed here. The situation is that we have a training system here that is a clone of our production. On a semi-regular basis we are requested to refresh the training system. The process is to delete the training system datasets then use DFSMSdss COPY to copy the datasets from production to training. I have tried just using DFSMSdss COPY with REPlace but apparently the REPlace parameter of DSS COPY doesn't work with the RENameUnconditional because DSS complains about the output datasets already being there. I don't want to have to list all the datasets individually in IDCAMS DELETE statements because that will be a maintenance nightmare. Environment is z/OS 1.4. What am I missing? Rex -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: zIIPs
That rates right up there with the old(and I mean OLD) 8Kx1 WOM(write only memory) chip announcement from NEC back in the late 70s. Hunkeler Peter (KRDO 4) wrote: zNUPs - zSeries No Use Processor - Its a simple one: it doesn't do anything except from appearing on your maintenance bill Peter Hunkeler CREDIT SUISSE -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMS LPAR
Lack of tapes on SYSTEM-B would prevent the HSMPLEX from working properly, unless you carve out a CF and use the common recall queue. In our case, we do not have tape and do not have a CF, so the alternative was code to ship recalls over to SYSTEM-A for processing, as the original poster suggested doing. Richards.Bob wrote: Lars, I would strongly recommend *against* doing this. What happens if they change their mind in the future and want to put it back? In my opinion, a better idea would be to define SYSTEM-B to be part of the same SMSPLEX and HSMPLEX. Then *DISABLE* the storage group on SYSTEM-A and the associated HSM functions. Then fire up a second HSM on SYSTEM-B using the same ARCCMDxx member. You will need to look at the ONLYIF keyword to specify HSM functions to be performed only on SYSTEM-B. Unless there is something you haven't mentioned that prevents the above idea, I would re-think your plans for a second SMSPLEX. Bob Richards VP, Enterprise Technologist Enterprise Technology Infrastructure SunTrust Banks, Inc. (404) 575-2798 Seeing beyond money (sm) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lars Jansson Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 10:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject:SMS LPAR We are running z/OS 1.4.0 and DFSMS 1.3.0 on SYSTEM-A. Now we are planning to move a certain application to an own LPAR SYSTEM-B The application has it's own STORGRP and the plan is to start SYSTEM-B with a mini SMS that will contain the same STORGRP that the application has in SYSTEM-A. If we need to migrate files with HSM we will send a batch job containing the HSM commands to SYSTEM-A. Do you have any experience in this scenario ? LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Seeing Beyond Money is a service mark of SunTrust Banks, Inc. [ST:XCL] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMS LPAR
Lack of tapes on SYSTEM-B would prevent the HSMPLEX from working properly, unless you carve out a CF and use the common recall queue. In our case, we do not have tape and do not have a CF, so the alternative was code to ship recalls over to SYSTEM-A for processing, as the original poster suggested doing. This is a report without the reply-to filled in...sorry about the previous post... Richards.Bob wrote: Lars, I would strongly recommend *against* doing this. What happens if they change their mind in the future and want to put it back? In my opinion, a better idea would be to define SYSTEM-B to be part of the same SMSPLEX and HSMPLEX. Then *DISABLE* the storage group on SYSTEM-A and the associated HSM functions. Then fire up a second HSM on SYSTEM-B using the same ARCCMDxx member. You will need to look at the ONLYIF keyword to specify HSM functions to be performed only on SYSTEM-B. Unless there is something you haven't mentioned that prevents the above idea, I would re-think your plans for a second SMSPLEX. Bob Richards VP, Enterprise Technologist Enterprise Technology Infrastructure SunTrust Banks, Inc. (404) 575-2798 Seeing beyond money (sm) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lars Jansson Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 10:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject:SMS LPAR We are running z/OS 1.4.0 and DFSMS 1.3.0 on SYSTEM-A. Now we are planning to move a certain application to an own LPAR SYSTEM-B The application has it's own STORGRP and the plan is to start SYSTEM-B with a mini SMS that will contain the same STORGRP that the application has in SYSTEM-A. If we need to migrate files with HSM we will send a batch job containing the HSM commands to SYSTEM-A. Do you have any experience in this scenario ? LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Seeing Beyond Money is a service mark of SunTrust Banks, Inc. [ST:XCL] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMS LPAR
Yes. Richards.Bob wrote: Good points, Steve. I take it then, HSM aside, you agree with the gist of what I said about adding SYSTEM-B to the same SMSPLEX? Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Arnett Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 11:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject:Re: SMS LPAR Lack of tapes on SYSTEM-B would prevent the HSMPLEX from working properly, unless you carve out a CF and use the common recall queue. In our case, we do not have tape and do not have a CF, so the alternative was code to ship recalls over to SYSTEM-A for processing, as the original poster suggested doing. Richards.Bob wrote: Lars, I would strongly recommend *against* doing this. What happens if they change their mind in the future and want to put it back? In my opinion, a better idea would be to define SYSTEM-B to be part of the same SMSPLEX and HSMPLEX. Then *DISABLE* the storage group on SYSTEM-A and the associated HSM functions. Then fire up a second HSM on SYSTEM-B using the same ARCCMDxx member. You will need to look at the ONLYIF keyword to specify HSM functions to be performed only on SYSTEM-B. Unless there is something you haven't mentioned that prevents the above idea, I would re-think your plans for a second SMSPLEX. Bob Richards -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lars Jansson Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 10:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject:SMS LPAR We are running z/OS 1.4.0 and DFSMS 1.3.0 on SYSTEM-A. Now we are planning to move a certain application to an own LPAR SYSTEM-B The application has it's own STORGRP and the plan is to start SYSTEM-B with a mini SMS that will contain the same STORGRP that the application has in SYSTEM-A. If we need to migrate files with HSM we will send a batch job containing the HSM commands to SYSTEM-A. LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Seeing Beyond Money is a service mark of SunTrust Banks, Inc. [ST:XCL] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Define and start JES2
Short answer is that the primary subsystem (for JES2) must be named JES2 and the procedure must have the same name. Johnny Luo wrote: New to mainframe..so the question maybe look a little silly. Here is what IEFSSN00 of our site defines JES2: SUBSYS SUBNAME(JES2) /* JES2 AS PRIMARY SUBSYSTEM */ PRIMARY(YES) START(NO) My question is concerning parmameter SUBNAME: Is it true that it must be the same name as JES2 procedure? Take the above IEFSSN00 for example,do I need to name the JES2 procedure 'JES2' also?Or I can use another name for it,say, JESA? -- Best Regards, Johnny Luo -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Capturing a reply id from a WTOR
Folks, First, I am cross posting this to both the ALC and Main boards, so I apologize for those of you that receive it twice. Second, I have a program that issues a WTOR. Presently, I capture that WTOR with automation and issue a modify command to another address space with the reply id for the WTOR. I would like to bypass the automation piece and issue the modify command directly from the program issuing the WTOR. However, I see no description of how on might do this in the manuals. I have also begun searching the archives for the answer. How do you extract the reply id from a WTOR once the WTOR has been issued? My code would look something like this: WTOR MF=(E,WTORSTOR) ISSUE WTOR * * Extract the reply id for the command below * XCMGCRPL(MGCRLTH),MGCRPL CLEAR PARM LIST MVC MGCRTEXT(14),=CL14'F STCNAME1,xx ' * MVC MGCRTEXT+11(2),DBLWRD+3 MOVE IN REPLY NUMBER * MVC MGCRTEXT+14(xx), REMAINDER OF COMMAND LAR1,(MGCRTEXT-MGCRPL)+65 GET MGCRPL LENGTH STC R1,MGCRLGTH PUT LGTH IN THE MGCRPL MODESET KEY=ZERO * KEY ZERO/SUPERVISOR STATE SRR0,R0CLEAR R0 MGCR MGCRPL ISSUE COMMAND MODESET KEY=NZERO * KEY ZERO/SUPERVISOR STATE * LAR1,WTORECBWAIT FOR REPLY WAIT 1,ECB=(R1)* Thanks in advance, Steve A. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Capturing a reply id from a WTOR
Thanks for the replies...Bottom line was to chase the ORE. Code looks something like this: * LAR8,0 GET PSA ADDRESS L R8,16(,R8)GET CVT ADDRESS L R8,100(,R8) GET UCM ADDRESS L R9,28(,R8)GET FIRST ORE MODESET KEY=ZERO * KEY ZERO/SUPERVISOR STATE ORELPC R4,8(R9) COMPARE TCB ADDRESS BEFNDOREYES, THIS IS OUR ORE CLC 0(4,R9),=F'0' CHECK FOR ZERO LINK POINTER BENFDOREYES, BYPASS COMMAND L R9,0(,R9) GET NEXT ORE B ORELP TEST IT FNDORE DS0H* * * * NFDORE DS 0H MODESET KEY=NZERO McKown, John wrote: I don't know of a way to do that directly. However, the reply number is kept in the ORE. The ORE is in subpool 231, which is [E]CSA. Use of the ORE is definately not GUPI (General User Programming Interface). Upon return from the WTOR, general register 1 contains an identification number. I am fairly sure that this is the same as the OREDOMID in the ORE. ORERPIDB contains the reply number (in hex - DS F). Each ORE is chained to the next via the ORELKP field. You find the first ORE via the UCMRPYQ of the UCM, which is pointed to by the CVTCUCB. Serialization is your worry grin. If you are on z/OS 1.7 (not likely, but maybe), if appears that you can use the CNZQUERY macro to get the OREs. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer UICI Insurance Center Information Technology -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Capturing a reply id from a WTOR
Thanks for the replies...Bottom line was to chase the ORE. Code looks something like this: * LAR8,0 GET PSA ADDRESS L R8,16(,R8)GET CVT ADDRESS L R8,100(,R8) GET UCM ADDRESS L R9,28(,R8)GET FIRST ORE MODESET KEY=ZERO * KEY ZERO/SUPERVISOR STATE ORELPC R4,8(R9) COMPARE TCB ADDRESS BEFNDOREYES, THIS IS OUR ORE CLC 0(4,R9),=F'0' CHECK FOR ZERO LINK POINTER BENFDOREYES, BYPASS COMMAND L R9,0(,R9) GET NEXT ORE B ORELP TEST IT FNDORE DS0H* * * * NFDORE DS 0H MODESET KEY=NZERO -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Is Outsourcing the Next Terror Target?
Can anyone guarantee invulnerability? I used to work at ACS in Dallas and the security there was better than in most of the data centers that they were outsourcing. Outsourcers do not work on very low profit margins, they operate on economies of scale. They can run multiple companies processing for less money than it would take each of those companies to operate independently. At least that is the business model that they use. Edward E. Jaffe wrote: Phil Payne wrote: [snip] I think it vanishingly unlikely that any commercial operation - especially in outsourcing, where the gross margins are already very low - would be able to afford the kind of security measures needed to guarantee invulnerability from the kind of fanatics who could engineer 9/11. It should be on the checklist of anyone considering business critical outsourcing. Hear, hear! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: BCTC vs SCTC
Folks, As a final closure on this issue, I did find what was causing my I/O errors between the two channel attached SCTCs. It was a timing issue. The error occured when either of the programs on the two LPARs issued a write prior to the read being issued on the other side of the SCTC link. By inserting a delay in each of the programs where they turn around from input to output, I was able to elliminate the IOEs that were being generated. A special thanks to Mike Kerford-Byrnes whom I had an extended discussion with off list. Thanks, Steve A. Steve Arnett wrote: Thanks to everyone that responded. Bruno Sugliani wrote: have a look around page 3.3 could be helpfull Watch the wrap http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg29fafd2510f68d17285256ced0051213eaid=1 Bruno Bruno(dot)sugliani(at)groupemornay(dot)asso(dot)fr -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: New LPAR and VTAM
Chris, The question is legitimate. I stepped into a shop that had two independant LPARs. They wanted to split one of those LPARs into two seperate sysplexes with a common VTAM network. I was given the task of setting up VTAM to cross between the two new LPARs. I have been working with/around VTAM for 25 years, but have never worked with a VTAM network that had more than a single VSE or MVS image in it. I was fortunate enough to have a couple of old friends that I worked at an outsourcing comapny with that could answer questions like this for me. Some people are not quite so fortunate and have to come to this board for that reason. Steve Arnett -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Chris Mason [ snip ] My problem with this post is Why on earth should you need to ask this question? Somebody was responsible for building your existing SNA network and maintaining it. Why not just ask him/her? - although it's a mystery why he/she isn't just doing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
BCTC vs SCTC
Folks, I wrote a program to communicate between two LPARs using a CTC connection. I was having a problem with occasional I/O errors. I originally had the program on an SCTC connection and swicthed it over to a BCTC connection. Since moving it, I have had no problems with the program. Both the SCTC and the BCTC are runninng between two ESCON channels(91/92 is SCTC and 9A/9B is BCTC) on our z/890 with an ESCON cable attaching each pair. I currently have VTAM running over the SCTC pair between the LPARs and have had no problems with it, so I am assumiong that I do not have a bad cable. That woudl leave the differences between the SCTC and BCTC devices as the only other cause. While I have seen one vague comment on this board about IBM not modifying GRS to use SCTC and hence requiring BCTC, I have been unable to find any documentation pointing to differences between the protocols and how programming them would differ. Is anyone on this board aware of any such documentaion? If so, could you direct me to it? Many thanks, Steve A. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: BCTC vs SCTC
I am getting a lot of responses stating that BCTC is required for GRS. This, I know. I do appreciate the attempts to be helpful. There are many refences on the board regarding the requirement for GRS to use BCTC. I have GRS using BCTC and I am neither questioning its use of BCTC or its inability to use SCTC. What I am asking for is some help finding the differences between the two. As a software developer how can I go to SCTC or even FCTC if I cannot find documentation on either the protocaols in use or the differences between them. Thanks again. Steve A. R.S. wrote: It was discussed recently. IMHO it is more proof that IBM don't like GRS without XCF (means sysplex), rather than IBM treats BCTC as current technology. ESCON is fading technology, so lack of FICON BCTC suggests the same. Just my $0.02 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: BCTC vs SCTC
Thanks to everyone that responded. Bruno Sugliani wrote: have a look around page 3.3 could be helpfull Watch the wrap http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg29fafd2510f68d17285256ced0051213eaid=1 Bruno Bruno(dot)sugliani(at)groupemornay(dot)asso(dot)fr -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OT- IBM slows the speed of light
I guess this makes the term light year for distance meaningless, doesn't it? Or if not meaningless, at least, relative...h Ed Gould wrote: http://www.eet.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=173403017 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PREVENTING TAKING TOO MUCH STOR IN ISPF
Actually, you are correct about it being SPM/OL. The DOS/VS modification was to insert an EXCP to read a card. Power intercepted the READ and moved the buffer to the input queue as if it had been read from the card reader. I was just starting out at the time, so I had no idea how that was supposed to work, but it did. I had already done quite a bit of ALC coding, so I knew the instructions, just didn't know how the smoke and mirrors worked. The guy that came up with this fix also set up our system to run Power(old Power that ran real mode only) to run in virtual mode. He preloaded a program that page fixed what Power needed fixed in memory and then loaded Power in on top of itself. This allowed us to run a 1MB DOS/VS system with Power and four partitions on a 64K 370/125. Needless to say there was a substantial paging overhead...with at least a 16 to 1 folding ratio... McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Arnett Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 11:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: PREVENTING TAKING TOO MUCH STOR IN ISPF There was one. It was called SPM and ran on DOS/VS. With a three card modification from a fellow in Lubbock by the name of Stu Childre, it even submitted jobs directly to the Power queue. Something called SPM/OL (Source Program Maintenance/Online, IIRC) also ran on OS/VS1 under CICS. I don't know if it was the same SPM as DOS/VS or not. I do remember doing something so that it could submit jobs under CICS. Something about using a user SVC to do a S RDR some how. The details are no longer accessable by my memory controller grin. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer UICI Insurance Center Information Technology This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its' content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PREVENTING TAKING TOO MUCH STOR IN ISPF
There was one. It was called SPM and ran on DOS/VS. With a three card modification from a fellow in Lubbock by the name of Stu Childre, it even submitted jobs directly to the Power queue. Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 10/17/2005 at 03:50 PM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: A colleague told me of an SDS (later XEROX) system that kept source files in a direct access data base, indexed by the line number. Imagine the possibilities. How about an IBM system that did the same thing? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMF Under Zos 1.4
If you are interested in a version with 31-bit support for z/OS 1.4 which also uses the whole 44 character dataset name, instead of only SYS1.MANx, contact me off list. These were changes made to the SMFDUMP program from NASPA. I am a new kid on the block at my datacenter, so I do not know at what date or at what level the code here was obtained. I just grabbed the onsite source and made the required changes to get it running... Shane Ginnane wrote: I put an updated version of SMFDUMP on the cbt a couple of months back. Cleaned up the code slightly, put in a check for GRS being active, so the RESERVE is no longer required in most cases. Certainly works on 1.4, haven't checked it on higher level systems. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Copying ALL tape files to disk
I wrote a utility a couple of years ago in COBOL which takes the output from the FREEWARE program TAPESCAN and builds the JCL required to restore the datasets(writing it to the JES2 internal reader). It was a very simple and easy to write program. The one that I wrote generated two possible sets of JCL, one for PS files and one for PDSs. When you are creating the new datasets, you need to remember that MVS takes the last 17 bytes of the dataset name and uses that for the dataset name on tape. So, what I did was append a prefix in front of the 17 character name in the generated JCL. Care should be taken to remove any periods that start the dataset name from the tape. Mautalen Juan Guillermo wrote: Thanks Radoslaw, I want the datasets created on disk to have the same name they have on tape (as is stored in the tape label). I know what these names are, and they are compatible with our DASD datasets naming standards. Why cannot DITTO (or other utility program), just read each tape dataset label, allocate a disk dataset with the same name, copy, and then proceed with next label, continuing this way until EOV is reached). On the other hand, i dont know what is considered a piece of cake in Poland, but i have around 50 tapes volumes, each one containing around 100 labels. :-) JUA MAUTALEN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Copying ALL tape files to disk
Contact me offline if you would like the COBOL source for the program that I wrote. Mautalen Juan Guillermo wrote: Thanks you all for your suggestions. The 17 limit of the dsname in the tape dataset label is not a problem in this particular case, because all the datasets have names whose lenght is equal or shorter than 17 characters (so the complete name is indeed stored in the tape label). I will evaluate the possiblities you mentionned. JUAN MAUTALEN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 4039 error with SOC-7
The S0C7 is the cause of your 4039. It is just LE saying that your exception was not handled, which it wasn't. If you look at the CEEDUMP, it will have your OC7 abend data in it. Howard Brazee wrote: Why would I get a 4039 Error with a data exception? USER COMPLETION CODE=4039 REASON CODE= TIME=10.20.19 SEQ=00394 CPU= ASID=0077 PSW AT TIME OF ERROR 078D1000 880550D6 ILC 2 INTC 0D ACTIVE LOAD MODULE ADDRESS=07F411E0 OFFSET=00113EF6 NAME=CEEPLPKA DATA AT PSW 080550D0 - 00181610 0A0D58D0 D00498EC AR/GR 0: 80D1EC28/8400 1: /84000FC7 2: /0817FFC8 3: /00060007 4: /0817FFC8 5: /0718 6: /07F3C888 7: /0010 8: /87FD3B48 9: /08180717 A: /0817FB5C B: /08055000 C: /07F3FD80 D: /081822B0 E: /87FD3C88 F: / END OF SYMPTOM DUMP This job has been running fine, but it abended twice - on close but not the same input records with SOC-7 and 4039. Looking at the dump, I see the SOC-7 easily, but I'm trying to figure out why the old program is trying to process the header record as a data record. (one abort was with the 2nd header record, the other was with the 1st header record). Normally SOC-7 is a trivial problem, especially since I see the error and know it isn't something like a table overflow into program memory. But I'm puzzled by the 4039.Maybe I should have them run it with SSRANGE checking, or do a tape to tape copy of the input file first. At any rate, I'm poring through the code trying to find out why it is processing the header record. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMP sloppiness
San Francisco. I attended the MVS/XA Structure and Flow in Atlanta, flew home over the weekend and attended the MVS Installation Workshop in SF the next week. The installation workshop was how to install MVS/SP using the CBIPO with a little mini-session on MVS/SP internals. You were not allowed to take home any samples of the parmlib members. Absolute waste of time for someone doing an XA express install. As I told them in the class review at the end of the class, there was one half of a day of usable information, when they taught us how to use TSO. The remainder of the five days was a waste. I did get to eat out at Fisherman's Wharf and found out about the barkers on Broadway. Ed Gould wrote: You must have have been in the same class as I was, was it in Chicago? Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Defining DASD to OS390 V2R10 System
7F, not 80... Robert Pelletier wrote: I have been asked to define more 3390-3 devices to our system. Here is a piece of an HCD report PROCESSOR ID CSLF9672 TYPE 9672 MODEL RA4 CONFIGURATION MODE: LPAR T SWITCH ID PR CU DYN --- CONTROL UNIT --- CU- CHPID TYPEMNGD SIDE MODE PN PNID NUMBER TYPE-MODELADD _ __ _ ___ _ ___ 60CNC SHR 0700 3990 __ 61CNC SHR 070E 3990 __ TOKEN: CSLF9672 01-03-16 11:49:03 TECH IODF03 UNIT ADDRUNIT - RANGE-- DEVICE -- ADDR DEVICE D PROTOCOL FROM TO NUMBER,RANGE START TYPE-MODE _ _ _ _ 00 4F 0900,80 003390 Make this 00 80 0900,128? __ 00 4F 0900,80 003390 Can I simply get into HCD and wherever there is a 4F make it an 80 and wherever there is an 80 for 3990/3390 devices make it 128? Thanks in advance to all. Bob Pelletier Connecticut Student Loan Foundation Rocky Hill, Connecticut -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: destructive overlap
This was code generated by the Crowbar, er, COBOL compiler. No cc checking generated. Bill Fairchild wrote: In a message dated 7/9/2005 9:25:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MVCL, as I now understand, is a noop if the move is destructive. When did that change? It used to set CC 3. MVCL does not move any bytes if destructive overlap is detected, but does not cause a program interrupt. In that sense, it is the same as a NOPR (a 2-byte-long NOP). However, it does set condition code 3, but a genuine NOP does not set the condition code. Bill Fairchild -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Old old memories
The diskette is free, but try finding a replacement drive to read it on... Martin Kline wrote: From IBM's WEB site: 3274 Control Unit This product was withdrawn from marketing in August, 1990, and is no longer sold in the US by IBM. However, the product is still being serviced by IBM. For no charge diskette replacement, please contact the IBM Customer Order Facility at 1-800-334-1089 or send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Has VSAM become synonymous with KSDS?
DB2 is also loaded into VSAM datasets. Also, don't forget the linear datasets used by the OS. Bill Fairchild wrote: In a message dated 7/6/2005 11:35:21 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Of course, in some shops, VSAM is obsolete altogether (except for databases that use VSAM that programmers don't see). VSAM's being obsolete is like saying TSO is obsolete. VSAM has been the strategic access method of IBM since the mid-1970s. It underlies many other structures that programmers also don't see, such as page data sets and catalogs, without which z/OS will not run very well or long. A better term might be non-obvious. Bill Fairchild -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: destructive overlap
Don't forget the all time favorite method for clearing a print buffer: MVI PBUF,C' ' MVC PBUF+1(132),PBUF PBUF DS CL133 I have never heard of it being called a destructive overlap before. I have always herad it called a destructive move. Fought a bug in a CICS COBOL program for a week before I realized the program had a destructive move using an MVCL instruction. MVCL, as I now understand, is a noop if the move is destructive. Greg Smith wrote: I am trying to figure out precisely what is destructive overlap. Does destructive overlap imply nonconcurrent copy (and vice versa)? For example: ds 0d a ds 12x b ds 16x mvc a(16),b Here is an overlap but it is non-destructive. I would assume the copy is concurrent? But if I code mvc b(16),a the overlap is destructive (ie b won't necessarily be an exact copy of a). Would a concurrent copy occur? (in this case, a concurrent copy could occur without affecting the result). Thanks, Greg Smith -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: destructive overlap
Thanks for the info. I will keep that in mind for future reference. Paul Gilmartin wrote: I once astonished Ed Jaffe (or was it Bruce Black) by stating that I don't write assembler code (or was it that I don't read dumps). Every now and again I feel the need to provide proof. And for Steve's doubts about destructive overlap: Ranked Search Results for Book: dz9zr003 z/Architecture Principles of Operation 10 topics have matches for: destructive overlap 1. MOVE LONG, 7.5.90 2. MOVE LONG EXTENDED, 7.5.91 3. MOVE LONG UNICODE, 7.5.92 4. Consistency Specification, 5.13.9.4 5. Interlocks within a Single Instruction, 5.13.4.2 6. MOVE STRING, 7.5.94 7. MOVE WITH DESTINATION KEY, 10.29 8. MOVE WITH SOURCE KEY, 10.31 9. MOVE LONG (MVCL), A.3.26 10. CIPHER MESSAGE WITH CHAINING (KMC), 7.5.25 -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HALON et al
Yea, they had this happen at a petroleum company in Dallas. Construction workers were in and out all day using a door that saw you coming and opened automatically. One of them went out of the room though the back door. On his way out, he pushed the door and it failed to open. Instead of hitting the crash bar on the door, he reached over and hit the little red button. There was a plastic cover over that one the next day, also. Gates, Guy wrote: At a previous employer, We had just completed building a new Computer Center. This building was in the same area as others that this company owned, So they were going to use the same cleaning company that the other buildings used. Our building had sensors that unlocked the door as you approached, but the older buildings had Red Buttons to push to unlock the door to get out. You probably guessed by now, When the Cleaning Crew came over and cleaned the Operations Console Room, They thought they had to push a button to get out of the room. The Console Room design had the Red 'Emergency Power Off' Button only 4 foot from the exit. He pushed the button to get out and all power went off. Talk about people scrambling 3:00 in the afternoon is not a good time to test this button. Needless to say, There was a plastic box covering that Red Button the next day. :-) Thanks...Guy M. Gates Jr. TTI Z/OS Systems Programmer Phone: (817) 740-9000 x-4627 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IPL periodicity
We process for two hospital systems. One on eastern time and one on central time. The different departments in hospitals use the computer at different times, with E/R having priority over any changes that we wish to perform. What we have found is that a midweek IPL in the evening usually works best for us. We have a standing schedule to IPL once a month. The last IPL was in February. For one reason or another, the IPL has been bypassed for four months. The only fallout from this has been that our system changes are accumulating and we ran into fragmented storage in the initiators(second time in two years). We corrected the latter with new Control-O rules to cycle the inits monthly. The system changes simply have to slide from month to month until we can actually implement them with an IPL. Eric Bielefeld wrote: We IPL weekly. We wouldn't have to, but I still think that if your workload allows it, weekly or monthly IPLs are a good thing. Any minor parmlib changes, software changes, etc. are easier to fix if done in small doses instead of accumulating for 6 months or whatever. Also, the operators don't forget how, as many have mentioned. Eric Bielefeld PH Mining Equipment 414-671-7849 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Downgrade 9672
I am not sure if it would be worth it, but you could contact a third party vendor and see if you could trade down. Instead of paying money. you might be able to get paid for the downgrade. However, since you could probably buy an R16 or R26 for $ 5,000, the net difference may not pay for the shipping and CE services for the install. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OSA-ICC and JBB7727
We are using OSA-ICC on our Z/890 without JBB7727 installed. Seems to work fine for us on z/OS 1.4. Porowski, Ken wrote: I saw a reference on the list that JBB7727 (Console restructure/enhancements) was required to run an OSA-ICC. Can anyone confirm or deny this? I'm running z/OS 1.4 with z990 exploitation support but do not have JBB7727 on. We plan on testing our new z990 this weekend with OSA-ICC. Thanks all. Ken Porowski AVP Systems Software CIT Group Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DELETE Question.
DELETE dataset.name NVSAM NSCR or from 3.4 DELETE / NVSAM NSCR Rugel José wrote: Hi : How can I delete a PDS entry that was located into a no actual existing VOLIME ( OS/390 .2.10 ). ADP.LIBRARY.SOURCES.ISA323. It can be looked only by 3.4 TSO Option from ISPF panels by typing *.LIBRARY.SOURCES It doesn`t appears by LISTC option. Thanks. J. Rugel * La informacion contenida en este e-mail es confidencial y solo puede ser utilizada por la persona o la Institucion a la cual esta dirigido. Cualquier retencion, difusion, distribucion o copia de este mensaje esta prohibida. La Institucion no asume responsabilidad sobre informacion, opiniones o criterios contenidos en este mail que no este relacionada con negocios oficiales de nuestra Institucion. Si Usted recibio este mensaje por error notifique al Administrador o a quien le envio inmediatamente, eliminelo sin ver su contenido o hacer copias. ** Banco del Pacifico S.A.** ** (Las tildes han sido omitidas intencionalmente para evitar problemas de lectura) ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Ramac II 9394 Cache size.
Actually it was an RVA. They were attempting to offload the customer data from the ADCD base system. The base MP 3000 P30 only has about 24 DASD volumes, of which the z/OS ADCD chews up around 16. R.S. wrote: SArnett wrote: I helped a shop install one of these fully loaded back in October. The price of the box was about $ 3,500 USD. Installed with an additional new ESCON card in the MP3000, holes cut in the wall between the two rooms, etc. was $ 5,000 USD. This was significantly less than the $ 10K that one vendor quoted for the upgrade in the MP3000 36GB disk drives, which IBM still has listed for $ 1,500 USD each. $5000 is probable price for fully equipped HDS 7700C aka Comparex Tetragon 2000. Much more powerful machine: 4GB of cache, up to 1,4TB, PPRC, a lot of ESCON channels. The HDS-marked boxes are usually imported from the U.S. g Ramac RVA's (still better than Ramac II) are even cheaper. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3705
We had an operator drop one of those puppies off of the back of the disk drive. Shattered the case. Taped it together using duct tape(yea, I am from Texas), mounted it and backed it up with Westinghouse. Only took two hits during the backup...both were in unused extents on the volume. William Donzelli wrote: Would that be the Enterprise? Yes, for the 3340. I need even crashed ones (to fix the load mechanism). William Donzelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HELP- No Master Console
Submit a batch job that has the following step in it: //ARCHPRE EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 // COMMAND 'V ,CONSOLE' Robert Pelletier wrote: Good Morning All. Our operator unplugged the production controller for the master console. I can't get it back. I have tried to use the HMC console and I get LOGON required when I try to enter commands. I don't want to IPL but if that is the only way out I am doing it at noon. Please does anyone have any ideas? Thanks all. Bob Pelletier Ct. Student Loan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HELP- No Master Console
Another way is to submit: /*$VS,'V ,CONSOLE' //ANYJOB JOB (000),'TSYSSA', // MSGCLASS=X,CLASS=C,MSGLEVEL=(1,1), // NOTIFY=SYSUID //ARCHPRE EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 Robert Pelletier wrote: Good Morning All. Our operator unplugged the production controller for the master console. I can't get it back. I have tried to use the HMC console and I get LOGON required when I try to enter commands. I don't want to IPL but if that is the only way out I am doing it at noon. Please does anyone have any ideas? Thanks all. Bob Pelletier Ct. Student Loan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Region size question
Folks, I am testing a new IEFUSI exit. The exit has WTOs imbeeded to indicate what is taking place. If I set REGION=0M, the exit sets the getmain limit below the line to the maximum region available(minus 64K - GDAREGSZ-64K) and sets the region limit to the maximum available(GDAREGSZ). For grins, I executed a job with REGION=15M to see what would happen. IEFUSI set the region limit below the line to 12M(GDAREGSZ) and set the getmain limit to 11.93M(GDAREGSZ-64K). Yet, the job died with an S822 abend and the message IEF085I REGION UNAVAILABLE, ERROR CODE=20. It appears that someone in the mix isn't honoring the limits set by IEFUSI. Can someone explain why the USI limits didn't override any checking for the availability of the 15MB? Steve A. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Region size question
Yes. That came from the CVTGDA entry GDAREGSZ. If I specify REGION=0M, I get the same 12M. Imbriale, Donald (Exchange) wrote: Do you have a 12M private area below the line? Don Imbriale -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Arnett Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 2:49 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Region size question Folks, I am testing a new IEFUSI exit. The exit has WTOs imbeeded to indicate what is taking place. If I set REGION=0M, the exit sets the getmain limit below the line to the maximum region available(minus 64K - GDAREGSZ-64K) and sets the region limit to the maximum available(GDAREGSZ). For grins, I executed a job with REGION=15M to see what would happen. IEFUSI set the region limit below the line to 12M(GDAREGSZ) and set the getmain limit to 11.93M(GDAREGSZ-64K). Yet, the job died with an S822 abend and the message IEF085I REGION UNAVAILABLE, ERROR CODE=20. It appears that someone in the mix isn't honoring the limits set by IEFUSI. Can someone explain why the USI limits didn't override any checking for the availability of the 15MB? *** Bear Stearns is not responsible for any recommendation, solicitation, offer or agreement or any information about any transaction, customer account or account activity contained in this communication. *** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Region size question
In case it would help, here is the sequence of events: IEFUSI02 12.00 Maximum region size below 16M IEFUSI02 11.93 GETMAIN REGION BELOW THE LINE IEFUSI02 64.00 REGION LIMIT ABOVE THE LINE IEF085I REGION UNAVAILABLE, ERROR CODE=20 IEF187I JOBXYZ FAILED - SYSTEM ERROR IN INITIATOR IEF450I JOBXYZ MYJOBST - ABEND=S822 U Steve Arnett wrote: Folks, I am testing a new IEFUSI exit. The exit has WTOs imbeeded to indicate what is taking place. If I set REGION=0M, the exit sets the getmain limit below the line to the maximum region available(minus 64K - GDAREGSZ-64K) and sets the region limit to the maximum available(GDAREGSZ).For grins, I executed a job with REGION=15M to see what would happen. IEFUSI set the region limit below the line to 12M(GDAREGSZ) and set the getmain limit to 11.93M(GDAREGSZ-64K). Yet, the job died with an S822 abend and the message IEF085I REGION UNAVAILABLE, ERROR CODE=20. It appears that someone in the mix isn't honoring the limits set by IEFUSI. Can someone explain why the USI limits didn't override any checking for the availability of the 15MB? Steve A. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Region size question
I think you are missing the point of the post. The available region size in the system is 12M. I executed a job step with REGION=15M, expecting the USI limits(set to 12M) to be honored. It does not appear that the initiator even pays attention to the USI limits when dispatching the job step. Imbriale, Donald (Exchange) wrote: Maybe the initiator is trashed. Stop and start it to see if that clears up the S822. Don Imbriale -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Region size question
You boys (and girls) are so dad blasted smart. Corolarry number 1: I am so stuborn. I did some stc testing(took the initiator and fragmentation out of the picture) to find what size I really did have. Seems that when GDAREGSZ is indicating 12288K(12M), I really only have 12072K available. So, I backed off my maximum region size from GDAREGSZ by .5M for my max region and backed it off 64K more for max getmain. Once I bounced the system, I could start an STC with REGION=15M and it works like a champ. I suppose for a production system, I would probably want to back off 1M for batch jobs to allow for (lots of) initiator fragmentation. Hal Merritt wrote: I think Don's point may be that you don't really have 12M. You did at one time, but the initiator address space has become fragmented and cluttered. The way to test that is to run with a 'fresh' initiator. Saw this all the time in another shop. Recycling initiators was a standard operations response to an 822. Some jobs were so bad that they had to be the very first scheduled in to a specific initiator. HTH and good luck. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Region size question
Corollary number 2: I can't type, either. Steve Arnett wrote: You boys (and girls) are so dad blasted smart. Corolarry number 1: I am so stuborn. I did some stc testing(took the initiator and fragmentation out of the picture) to find what size I really did have. Seems that when GDAREGSZ is indicating 12288K(12M), I really only have 12072K available. So, I backed off my maximum region size from GDAREGSZ by .5M for my max region and backed it off 64K more for max getmain. Once I bounced the system, I could start an STC with REGION=15M and it works like a champ. I suppose for a production system, I would probably want to back off 1M for batch jobs to allow for (lots of) initiator fragmentation. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Assembler
Correction...Assembler is a dying art ANYWHERE! So is dump reading... Paul Hanrahan wrote: Assembler must be a dieing art at most banks. - Paul Hanrahan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Assembler
Well, if Reader's Digest is right about laughter being the best medicine, I just got a cure for something...Thanks, Joe. Wenger, Joseph wrote: Most of us that know these arts are probaly dying off faster than these arts ;-))) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steve Arnett Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 5:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Assembler Correction...Assembler is a dying art ANYWHERE! So is dump reading... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Systems Programming for 8 Year-olds
Not that this will work for 8 year olds, but, when explaining what a systems programmer does, I have always said that we maintain the software that allow programmers to do their jobs. Richard Heritage wrote: This is more of a Friday question, but I got busy Friday and didn't have time to post. At my son's school, they are having parents come in and talk to the class about their jobs. It's heartwarming that my son is proud of me and wants me to come in and speak, but I'm at somewhat nervous about trying to make what I do interesting or even intelligible to second graders. Somehow I don't think that HiperSockets will be as exciting to them as they were to me when I first heard about them. I have some ideas, but I'm hoping that some of you have been through this before and have some tips on things that worked (or didn't work!) for you. How do you explain such a technical occupation to young children? What props or visual aids would you use to illustrate work that mostly goes on inside either our brains or our computers? Any ideas you have will be appreciated. Richard Heritage Lead Systems Software Engineer IT @ Johns Hopkins -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Systems Programming for 8 Year-olds
Hey, you left out 80 column card paper planes and shooting rubber bands into the overhead florescent light frames. Porowski, Ken wrote: Get a mess of beads and string and see who can string up 1K of core the fastest? Tug of war with 100' Grey BusTag? Write Protect ring toss? Put the fun back in computing! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ed Finnell Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 10:41 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Systems Programming for 8 Year-olds In a message dated 5/16/2005 9:37:23 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What props or visual aids would you use to illustrate work that mostly goes on inside either our brains or our computers? Any ideas you have will be appreciated. Tell them you are friends with the Thing King? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DEL GDG problem
Have you tried: DELETE / NONVSAM? Seems like that has always worked whether the catalogue was available or not for SMS managed... R.S. wrote: Mark Zelden wrote: On Mon, 16 May 2005 14:00:16 +0200, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following scenario: HLQ1.DATASET.G0805V00 Member of GDG, SMS-managed, extended format PS. Single volume, but defined with VOL=(,,,4) Volser SMSXX1 Now the volume is available from another LPAR. The new system has no 'HLQ1' datasets, the original BCS wasn't imported. The original system is shut down. I want to delete the dataset, just to clean up the volume. How can I do it ? I tried DEL HLQ1.DATASET.G0805V00 NVR FILE(DDNAME) and several other, no success. Of course I can use ICKDSF... Did you try and delete it using ISMF? I'm not sure that would work any better than delete NVR though. IMHO it works exactly the same. It fails with same messages. g -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: GETMAIN timings
Thanks for the tips... Bill Fairchild wrote: In a message dated 5/11/2005 1:50:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is probably dependent on page-alignment thing. Note that clearing the storage to zero for page-aligned, page-sized allocations is achieved by simply setting the page invalid. The first reference to the page will page fault, then allocate a new frame and physically clear it to zero, then redrive the faulting instruction. On the other hand, for allocations that are not greater than 4K *and* not specifically page-aligned, then the storage is sliced from an existing page, if any. I suspect that the 8192 allocation is being implicitly page-aligned, because it is page-sized and greater than 4K. The clearing of freshly GETMAINed storage is dependent on the subpool number and the BNDRY= variable, neither of which was mentioned by the original poster. And where the virtual storage is backed, another unspecified variable, might add to the GETMAIN instruction path. E.g., Authorized Assembler Services says: When you obtain storage, the system clears the requested storage to zeros if you obtain either: 8192 bytes or more from a pageable, private storage subpool. 4096 bytes or more from a pageable, private storage subpool, with BNDRY=PAGE specified. The caller can specify CHECKZERO=YES to detect these and other cases where the system clears the requested storage to zeros. Bill Fairchild -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html