IBMLINK unavailable

2008-11-19 Thread Lizette Koehler
I have tried a couple of times to get to IBMLINK and keep getting the invalid 
path panel.

Any one else having trouble with IBMLINK this morning?

Lizette

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Re: IBMLINK unavailable

2008-11-19 Thread Dean Montevago
This is the kiss of death, no. 

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Subject: IBMLINK unavailable

I have tried a couple of times to get to IBMLINK and keep getting the
invalid path panel.

Any one else having trouble with IBMLINK this morning?

Lizette

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Re: IBMLINK unavailable

2008-11-19 Thread Field, Alan C.
I have an ETR open from yesterday and got this email right before your
post:

"Hello Alan,

There is still an issue with the servers this morning, it has captured a
wide range of attention and much focus is being placed on this issue. 
It is continuing to be diagnosed and we will contact you with any new   
status as soon as we get it."

Alan

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Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 08:29 
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Subject: IBMLINK unavailable

I have tried a couple of times to get to IBMLINK and keep getting the
invalid path panel.

Any one else having trouble with IBMLINK this morning?

Lizette

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Re: IBMLINK unavailable

2008-11-19 Thread Gray, Larry - Larry A
I was able to get in a few times this morning.  They have backed out the ETR 
change because of customer complaints. 


Larry Gray

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Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:29 AM
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Subject: IBMLINK unavailable

I have tried a couple of times to get to IBMLINK and keep getting the invalid 
path panel.

Any one else having trouble with IBMLINK this morning?

Lizette


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Re: IBMLINK unavailable

2008-11-19 Thread Lizette Koehler
Thanks Alan,

Now I do not feel like I am going crazy.

Lizette


-Original Message-
>From: "Field, Alan C." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Nov 19, 2008 9:41 AM
>To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
>Subject: Re: IBMLINK unavailable
>
>I have an ETR open from yesterday and got this email right before your
>post:
>
>"Hello Alan,
>
>There is still an issue with the servers this morning, it has captured a
>wide range of attention and much focus is being placed on this issue. 
>It is continuing to be diagnosed and we will contact you with any new   
>status as soon as we get it."
>
>Alan
>
>
>I have tried a couple of times to get to IBMLINK and keep getting the
>invalid path panel.
>
>Any one else having trouble with IBMLINK this morning?
>
>Lizette
>

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Re: IBMLINK unavailable

2008-11-19 Thread Bobbie Justice
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:42:23 -0500, Gray, Larry - Larry A 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I was able to get in a few times this morning.  They have backed out the ETR 
change because of customer complaints.
>
>
>Larry Gray
>

web ibmlink actually seems to be working right now, 

and yes, I received this below in reponse to my feedback on the etr change, 
which makes me wonder exactly who was clamoring for that to begin with. 

--> Due to the negative user and customer response, the scrollable window   
feature, a part of Release 6.2 in ETR, has been backed out.   

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Re: IBMLINK unavailable

2008-11-19 Thread Paul Peplinski
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:28:33 -0500, Lizette Koehler 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Any one else having trouble with IBMLINK this morning?
>
It has been up and down for me all week. Currently down.

Paul

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Re: IBMLINK unavailable

2008-11-19 Thread Skip Robinson
Some of us at SHARE have maintained a dialog with IBMLink architects for a
while now. As part of that dialog, we learned something this week about the
sudden appearance of the Box from H*ll. It was a sincere if off-target
attempt to satisfy a requirement from some customers to provide an 'easy'
way to zero in on the most recently updated text in an ongoing ETR. For
better or worse, the box was actually supposed to be a time saver,
minimizing the time it takes to locate the spot where a person would
logically want to start reading upon opening an ETR. You certainly do not
want to begin at the beginning every time unless you have that weird memory
problem a la Memento (2000 film).

They backed out the unpopular change in response to the negative vote from
users. If you can suggest a solution that uses only plain text (an assumed
requirement never stated as far as I know) that would not drive a lot of
folks crazy, I'm pretty sure IBM would love to hear it. And please, as much
as I argue for top-posting in email threads, do not even think about
displaying ETR updates in reverse order. That would be the very definition
of 'crazy'.

.
.
JO.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
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On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:42:23 -0500, Gray, Larry - Larry A
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I was able to get in a few times this morning.  They have backed out the
ETR
change because of customer complaints.
>
>
>Larry Gray
>

web ibmlink actually seems to be working right now,

and yes, I received this below in reponse to my feedback on the etr change,

which makes me wonder exactly who was clamoring for that to begin with.

--> Due to the negative user and customer response, the scrollable window

feature, a part of Release 6.2 in ETR, has been backed out.

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Re: IBMLINK unavailable

2008-11-19 Thread Gibney, Dave
  Of course, this is easy in 3270 land...PF6 and you're pretty close.

Dave Gibney
Information Technology Services
Washington State Univsersity


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Skip Robinson
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 4:26 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: IBMLINK unavailable

Some of us at SHARE have maintained a dialog with IBMLink architects for
a
while now. As part of that dialog, we learned something this week about
the
sudden appearance of the Box from H*ll. It was a sincere if off-target
attempt to satisfy a requirement from some customers to provide an
'easy'
way to zero in on the most recently updated text in an ongoing ETR. For
better or worse, the box was actually supposed to be a time saver,
minimizing the time it takes to locate the spot where a person would
logically want to start reading upon opening an ETR. You certainly do
not
want to begin at the beginning every time unless you have that weird
memory
problem a la Memento (2000 film).

They backed out the unpopular change in response to the negative vote
from
users. If you can suggest a solution that uses only plain text (an
assumed
requirement never stated as far as I know) that would not drive a lot of
folks crazy, I'm pretty sure IBM would love to hear it. And please, as
much
as I argue for top-posting in email threads, do not even think about
displaying ETR updates in reverse order. That would be the very
definition
of 'crazy'.

.
.
JO.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 

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On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:42:23 -0500, Gray, Larry - Larry A
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I was able to get in a few times this morning.  They have backed out
the
ETR
change because of customer complaints.
>
>
>Larry Gray
>

web ibmlink actually seems to be working right now,

and yes, I received this below in reponse to my feedback on the etr
change,

which makes me wonder exactly who was clamoring for that to begin with.

--> Due to the negative user and customer response, the scrollable
window

feature, a part of Release 6.2 in ETR, has been backed out.

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Re: IBMLINK unavailable

2008-11-20 Thread Thompson, Steve
Let me preface this by stating that I have not done any HTML lately, or
Java ever. 

I would like to think that is a way to get the scrollable area to be
positioned at the bottom upon initial display of a web page.

So with the PMR/ETR display that we have now (after the back-out of the
postage stamp 3270-1 type display), why not position the displayable
area, upon entry to the ETR, to the bottom?

The stated goal was missed, because the postage stamp display (at least
for me) did not display the latest update, but required me to drag the
scroll-bar down to the bottom.

The idea of putting the info in the notification mail (that is, the
current update from IBM) was good. I liked it, I didn't have a problem
with it, other than I would like them to keep the URL info in it (I was
getting them w/o that).

Regards,
Steve Thompson

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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Skip Robinson
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 6:26 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: IBMLINK unavailable

Some of us at SHARE have maintained a dialog with IBMLink architects for
a
while now. As part of that dialog, we learned something this week about
the
sudden appearance of the Box from H*ll. It was a sincere if off-target
attempt to satisfy a requirement from some customers to provide an
'easy'
way to zero in on the most recently updated text in an ongoing ETR. For
better or worse, the box was actually supposed to be a time saver,
minimizing the time it takes to locate the spot where a person would
logically want to start reading upon opening an ETR. You certainly do
not
want to begin at the beginning every time unless you have that weird
memory
problem a la Memento (2000 film).

They backed out the unpopular change in response to the negative vote
from
users. If you can suggest a solution that uses only plain text (an
assumed
requirement never stated as far as I know) that would not drive a lot of
folks crazy, I'm pretty sure IBM would love to hear it. 


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Re: IBMLINK unavailable

2008-11-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:39:01 -0800, Gibney, Dave wrote:

>  Of course, this is easy in 3270 land...PF6 and you're pretty close.
>
If I understand the requirement, it's likewise easy in Safari land:
Comand-Down arrow gets you to the bottom, etc.

>-Original Message-
>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>Behalf Of Skip Robinson
>
>sudden appearance of the Box from H*ll. It was a sincere if off-target
>attempt to satisfy a requirement from some customers to provide an
>'easy'
>way to zero in on the most recently updated text in an ongoing ETR. For
> ...
>users. If you can suggest a solution that uses only plain text (an assumed
>requirement never stated as far as I know)
>
???  You mean, like, a command entry box in which the user could type
"BOTTOM", "TOP", "DOWN 42", etc.?

The only plain text browser I used to use with IBMLink was Lynx.
Alas, IBMLink 2K made incompatible changes and I had to switch to
Firefox.

How about an index sidebar frame, click to go to a selected ply?
Nah, overkill.  IBM's resources should first be spent on improving
reliability/availability.

>  ...  And please, as much
>as I argue for top-posting in email threads, do not even think about
>displaying ETR updates in reverse order. That would be the very
>definition
>
Two of a piece.  I prefer both in chronological order.  With
quotations trimmed in email; else blog it.

-- gil

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