subject:"JCL QUESTION"

Re: JCL Question

2011-07-15 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht

R.Skorupka wrote:

>I dare to disagree. Completely.

Feel free to do that. Search the archives. My reply is for those who don't have 
those automation software.

>1. ControlM (and others) did that despite of the reasons above.

Agreed. I'm indeed using those %%variables to generate datasets and reports for 
my RACF audit reports. Can't already live without those %%variables. :-D

>2. Scope of the facilities offered by %%variables is much wider than system 
>variables which are available in STC, but not in batch. Some of the facilities 
>are completely unrelated to the considerations above.
>3. ControlM do offer rich set of date&time variables and functions, so you 
>have ordering date, execution date etc. Anything you want. With no ambiguity.

Here I agree with you... ;-D
But not every one has that luxury. This is why this thread originally started.

Groete / Greetings
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Re: JCL Question

2011-07-14 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2011-07-14 19:56, Elardus Engelbrecht pisze:

R. Skorupka wrote:

I believe this is main reason why JCL haven't been enhanced to have such
facilities. BIG customers - those which IBM listen to - already have such
facilities (in Job Scheduler) and have no reason to push IBM.

Partly true, but the actual reason has been stated many times here on IBM-MAIN:

Reason - where and when do you want variables substituted? On the system where
JCL is submitted or on the system where the JCL is to be executed? Before you
yell at me that date/time is universal on any machine, take in account the
local time of the machine where you want date/time substitution...

About when - at submission or at job start or what?

Who do you want the actual work to be done: JES2 at interpretation or when the
resource manager gets the DD statements?

Forget for now about the possibility that the date/time variables are
substituted in next day or week... :-)

Also forget for a moment about possible mixup of local times and/or Zulu time
(greenwich time) ;-D

I dare to disagree. Completely.
1. ControlM (and others) did that despite of the reasons above.
2. Scope of the facilities offered by %%variables is much wider than
system variables which are available in STC, but not in batch. Some of
the facilities are completely unrelated to the considerations above.
3. ControlM do offer rich set of date&time variables and functions, so
you have ordering date, execution date etc. Anything you want. With no
ambiguity.

4. What about GDG <365 ??? %$%!

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P.S. I'm not selling ControlM, the above is not advertisement.

I'm pretty sure that me and my coleague are very first users of CtM in
Poland, possibly first users of any batch scheduler in our country

It was Boole&Babbage branded then...

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Re: JCL Question

2011-07-14 Thread Ed Gould

Indeed that becomes important. When I was working on a 200 ( and growing) node 
jesx/rscs/ power systems it became extremely  complex as sometimes when a job 
floated it became let's say difficult to figure out. When it became fun trying 
to contact the various tech people to find out about the System it came 
through. Add to that some of the techies were let's say less than fully 
informed you could end up chasing your tail. Let me assure you that there is 
just not one way to make everyone happy.

Ed

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On Jul 14, 2011, at 12:56 PM, Elardus Engelbrecht 
 wrote:

> R. Skorupka wrote:
> 
>> I believe this is main reason why JCL haven't been enhanced to have such 
>> facilities. BIG customers - those which IBM listen to - already have such 
>> facilities (in Job Scheduler) and have no reason to push IBM. 
> 
> Partly true, but the actual reason has been stated many times here on 
> IBM-MAIN:
> 
> Reason - where and when do you want variables substituted? On the system 
> where JCL is submitted or on the system where the JCL is to be executed? 
> Before you yell at me that date/time is universal on any machine, take in 
> account the local time of the machine where you want date/time 
> substitution... 
> 
> About when - at submission or at job start or what? 
> 
> Who do you want the actual work to be done: JES2 at interpretation or when 
> the resource manager gets the DD statements?
> 
> Forget for now about the possibility that the date/time variables are 
> substituted in next day or week... :-)
> 
> Also forget for a moment about possible mixup of local times and/or Zulu time 
> (greenwich time) ;-D
> 
> Groete / Greetings
> Elardus Engelbrecht
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Re: JCL Question

2011-07-14 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht

R. Skorupka wrote:

>I believe this is main reason why JCL haven't been enhanced to have such 
>facilities. BIG customers - those which IBM listen to - already have such 
>facilities (in Job Scheduler) and have no reason to push IBM. 

Partly true, but the actual reason has been stated many times here on IBM-MAIN:

Reason - where and when do you want variables substituted? On the system where 
JCL is submitted or on the system where the JCL is to be executed? Before you 
yell at me that date/time is universal on any machine, take in account the 
local time of the machine where you want date/time substitution... 

About when - at submission or at job start or what? 

Who do you want the actual work to be done: JES2 at interpretation or when the 
resource manager gets the DD statements?

Forget for now about the possibility that the date/time variables are 
substituted in next day or week... :-)

Also forget for a moment about possible mixup of local times and/or Zulu time 
(greenwich time) ;-D

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: JCL Question

2011-07-14 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)

In
,
on 07/13/2011
   at 09:04 PM, Mike Schwab  said:

>I have done an IEBGENER to a INTRDR to run the same job until I broke
>the loop.

That's not iteration in JCL.
 
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Re: JCL Question

2011-07-14 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2011-07-13 14:52, McKown, John pisze:

I'd likely use JES exit 2 to insert

// SET DATE=...
// SET TIME=...

and so on into the JCL stream immediately after the JOB card.

And I like Job Scheduler Utilities for such purposes. For example
ControlM has %%variables, with strong support for date, time, day of
week, days since, etc. but not only. And you can do some simple
calculations, string operations, IF, CASE operators, etc. etc.

That makes any homegrown tricks much much less sexy.
I believe that competition products have similar faicilities.

I believe this is main reason why JCL haven't been enhanced to have such
facilities. BIG customers - those which IBM listen to - already have
such facilities (in Job Scheduler) and have no reason to push IBM.

I also think the above is also reason for uchanged limit for GDG - 255.

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Re: JCL Question

2011-07-13 Thread Walter Marguccio

> The trick is to run a process at 23:59:59 everyday to update the MCDATE 
> member 
> in a proclib that is in your JES2 proclib concatenation. We've done this for 
> years and it works well. 

This is exactly what we do at our shop. In case the user needs to use variables 
in 
SYSIN DD type datasets, then we exploit EZACFSM1.


Walter Marguccio
z/OS Systems Programmer
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Re: JCL Question

2011-07-13 Thread Ted MacNEIL

> The ability to iterate is. Of course, that can be done with recursion
> rather than explicit loops, but JCL doesn't have that either

Looping/iteration, while desirable, is NOT a requirement to be a programming 
language.

Just stepping through is adequate!
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Re: JCL Question

2011-07-13 Thread Mike Schwab

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
 wrote:
>
>>Looping constructs are not required to make it a programming
>>language.
>
> The ability to iterate is. Of course, that can be done with recursion
> rather than explicit loops, but JCL doesn't have that either.
>
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I have done an IEBGENER to a INTRDR to run the same job until I broke the loop.
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Re: JCL Question

2011-07-13 Thread Gross, Randall [GCG-PFS]

How about EZACFSM1? 

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Subject: JCL Question

Hello All.

We're trying to set up a batch job that will append a datestamp to a
dataset name.
For example:

//S0 EXEC PGM=EMCSRDF
//SYSPRINT DD DSN=STRG.SRDF.INVTRKS.JUL09.@1408,
//STORCLAS=BASE,MGMTCLAS=MEDIUM,
//DISP=(,CATLG),
//SPACE=(TRK,(15,15),RLSE),
//DCB=(RECFM=FBA,LRECL=133,BLKSIZE=0)
//SYSINDD *
EMC-SQ VOL,44FA,INV_TRKS
/*  

When we run this job, we hard code JUL09.@1408 to the end of the
SYSPRINT dataset name.
Is there a way to have the JCL automatically add the datestamp?

George (ICBC)

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Re: JCL Question

2011-07-13 Thread Bryan Klimek

We create thousands of datasets with a date stamp as a qualifier. See example:

//BJKBR14  JOB 1,'BRYAN K.',CLASS=Z,MSGCLASS=X,MSGLEVEL=(1,1) 
//INCL INCLUDE MEMBER=MCDATE  
//STEP005  EXEC PGM=IEFBR14   
//DD1  DD   DSN=SHRT.DUMMY.D&MCDATE,UNIT=VIO,SPACE=(TRK,(1,1))

The expanded JCL after execution looks like this:

1 //BJKBR14  JOB 1,'BRYAN K.',CLASS=Z,MSGCLASS=X,MSGLEVEL=(1,1)   
JOB54091 
2 //INCL INCLUDE MEMBER=MCDATE  
   
  XX*   SET A VARIABLE FOR THE CURRENT DATA 
   
3 XXDTSTAMP  SET MCDATE=2011194 
   
4 //STEP005  EXEC PGM=IEFBR14   
   
5 //DD1  DD   DSN=SHRT.DUMMY.D&MCDATE,UNIT=VIO,SPACE=(TRK,(1,1))
   
  IEFC653I SUBSTITUTION JCL - 
DSN=SHRT.DUMMY.D2011194,UNIT=VIO,SPACE=(TRK,(1,1))   

The trick is to run a process at 23:59:59 everyday to update the MCDATE member 
in a proclib that is in your JES2 proclib concatenation. We've done this for 
years and it works well. 

I guess the only downside is if the automation task somehow fails to update the 
MCDATE member at midnight.

Bryan Klimek
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Re: JCL Question

2011-07-13 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)

In
<1340844227-1310499369-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-208261873-@b12.c1.bise6.blackberry>,
on 07/12/2011
   at 07:36 PM, Ted MacNEIL  said:

>I disagree.
>JCL meets all criteria to be a programming language.

Nonsense.

>It doesn't do everything, but what language does?

Irrelevant. The question isn't whether it does everything, the
question is whether it does at least the minimum. It doesn't.
 
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Re: JCL Question

2011-07-13 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)

In <45e5f2f45d7878458ee5ca679697335502e25...@usdaexch01.kbm1.loc>, on
07/12/2011
   at 12:57 PM, "Staller, Allan"  said:

>IIRC, static system symbols can be substituted in JCL.

For STC and TSU, but not for batch.
 
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Re: JCL Question

2011-07-13 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)

In
<887215793-1310501180-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1377146756-@b12.c1.bise6.blackberry>,
on 07/12/2011
   at 08:06 PM, Ted MacNEIL  said:

>Looping constructs are not required to make it a programming
>language.

The ability to iterate is. Of course, that can be done with recursion
rather than explicit loops, but JCL doesn't have that either.
 
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Re: JCL Question

2011-07-13 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)

In
,
on 07/12/2011
   at 03:35 PM, Jonathan Goossen  said:

>Job Control Language

Gesundheit! That's not even a claim that it's a programming language.
 
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Re: JCL Question

2011-07-13 Thread Gerhard Postpischil


On 7/13/2011 6:52 AM, R.S. wrote:

No, in general it is matter of definition. My English is poor,
but let me present another example, as off topic as dog's one:
A car. In my country, Combi (Wagon) car is named in folders as
5-doors car. Hatchback is also 5-doors or 3-doors. Does anyone
use the tailgate as a doors?


Since we're already off-topic - yes. Some years ago the locks on 
my station wagon froze (we have fairly cold winters), and I had 
to get into the car through the back.



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Re: JCL Question

2011-07-13 Thread McKown, John

I'd likely use JES exit 2 to insert 

// SET DATE=...
// SET TIME=...

and so on into the JCL stream immediately after the JOB card.

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> 
> I have a UJV exit that we market which allows you to create 
> variables for BATCH jobs as well as STC's.  At our customer 
> sites we use it to control the DSN's of the backups and 
> hundreds of other jobs.  The users also take advantage of the 
> capabilities, (the ones that know how to read the manual :)).
> 
> You can license ours, or you can download a very similar one 
> from www.cbttape.org/ file 573 that has a few less 
> capabilities (but should be able to do the below), but is free.
> 
> i.e.
> 
> //   SET BKPDSN='D&ZYEAR.&ZMONTH.&ZDAY..T&ZTIME.'
> 
> 
> //BACKUP00 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=0M  
> //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* 
> //DISK0DD UNIT=3390,DISP=SHR,VOL=SER=FC6C00
> //TAPE0DD UNIT=3480,DISP=(,CATLG),LABEL=(1,SL),
> //DSN=SYSTAPE.Z13DL1.&BKPDSN,VOL=(,RETAIN,,10)
> 
> ends up with a DSN (assuming the job runs today at 22:59) of:
> 
> SYSTAPE.Z13DL1.D110712.T2259 
> 
> There are literally hundreds (well, maybe "a lot" is a better 
> term) of JCL variables that you can create using the exit and 
> you are not limited to running as a Started Task for any of them.
> 
> Some people don't like using exits, I personally feel that a 
> good exit is worth it's weight in gold.  Eventually IBM will 
> come around and support doing this natively, and (currently) 
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> reason you shouldn't do it on your own until then.
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Re: JCL Question

2011-07-13 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2011-07-13 10:44, Binyamin Dissen pisze:

On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 10:28:33 +0200 "R.S."
wrote:

:>W dniu 2011-07-12 21:36, Ted MacNEIL pisze:
:>> I disagree.
:>> JCL meets all criteria to be a programming language.
:>> It doesn't do everything, but what language does?

:>Watch the name: JOB CONTROL language.

How many legs does a dog have, if you call a tail a leg?

Four - just because you call a tail a leg does not make it a leg.

No, in general it is matter of definition. My English is poor, but let
me present another example, as off topic as dog's one:
A car. In my country, Combi (Wagon) car is named in folders as 5-doors
car. Hatchback is also 5-doors or 3-doors. Does anyone use the tailgate
as a doors?

Definition of leg is common and quite well specified/understood. For
ages. Definition of programming language is not and IMHO it could evolve
significantly during last 40 years.
Last, but not least: since we talk about PROGRAMMING language that means
there are non-programming (but computer-related) languages.

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Re: JCL Question

2011-07-13 Thread Binyamin Dissen

On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 10:28:33 +0200 "R.S." 
wrote:

:>W dniu 2011-07-12 21:36, Ted MacNEIL pisze:
:>> I disagree.
:>> JCL meets all criteria to be a programming language.
:>> It doesn't do everything, but what language does?

:>Watch the name: JOB CONTROL language.

How many legs does a dog have, if you call a tail a leg?

Four - just because you call a tail a leg does not make it a leg.

:>In fact there is no big value in JCL classification, especially as there 
:>is no single exact definition of programming language. Last, but not 
:>least: let's imagine we would work out the classification. And ?

:>> But, it is more complex than channel programmes, and they're considered a 
programming language.
:>You compare "channel programs" to "programming language". Not to mention 
:>that "channel programs" are functionally similar to "SCSI commands".

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Re: JCL Question

2011-07-13 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2011-07-12 21:36, Ted MacNEIL pisze:

I disagree.
JCL meets all criteria to be a programming language.
It doesn't do everything, but what language does?

Watch the name: JOB CONTROL language.

In fact there is no big value in JCL classification, especially as there
is no single exact definition of programming language. Last, but not
least: let's imagine we would work out the classification. And ?

But, it is more complex than channel programmes, and they're considered a
programming language.
You compare "channel programs" to "programming language". Not to mention
that "channel programs" are functionally similar to "SCSI commands".

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Re: JCL Question

2011-07-12 Thread Brian Westerman

I have a UJV exit that we market which allows you to create variables for BATCH 
jobs as well as STC's.  At our customer sites we use it to control the DSN's of 
the backups and hundreds of other jobs.  The users also take advantage of the 
capabilities, (the ones that know how to read the manual :)).

You can license ours, or you can download a very similar one from 
www.cbttape.org/ file 573 that has a few less capabilities (but should be able 
to do the below), but is free.

i.e.

//   SET BKPDSN='D&ZYEAR.&ZMONTH.&ZDAY..T&ZTIME.'


//BACKUP00 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=0M  
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* 
//DISK0DD UNIT=3390,DISP=SHR,VOL=SER=FC6C00
//TAPE0DD UNIT=3480,DISP=(,CATLG),LABEL=(1,SL),
//DSN=SYSTAPE.Z13DL1.&BKPDSN,VOL=(,RETAIN,,10)

ends up with a DSN (assuming the job runs today at 22:59) of:

SYSTAPE.Z13DL1.D110712.T2259 

There are literally hundreds (well, maybe "a lot" is a better term) of JCL 
variables that you can create using the exit and you are not limited to running 
as a Started Task for any of them.

Some people don't like using exits, I personally feel that a good exit is worth 
it's weight in gold.  Eventually IBM will come around and support doing this 
natively, and (currently) there are a lot of reasons why they can't, but there 
is no reason you shouldn't do it on your own until then.


Brian

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Re: JCL Question

2011-07-12 Thread Lizette Koehler

> When we run this job, we hard code JUL09.@1408 to the end of the SYSPRINT
dataset
> name.
> Is there a way to have the JCL automatically add the datestamp

You should look at the system symbols for DUMPSRVR and see if they might be
usable.  It has things like date and time (various flavors) that you might
be able to use.


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Re: JCL Question

2011-07-12 Thread Jonathan Goossen

Job Control Language

Thank you and have a Terrific day!

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> From: Cris Hernandez #9 
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
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> Subject: Re: JCL Question
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> 
> contrary to popular misconceptions, JCL is not a programming 
> language, meaning it's not used to manipulate data.  To append data 
> onto any existing file, code disp=mod instead of shr/new/old and use
> appropriate pgm/util to read in & write out what you want. 
> 
> 
> --- On Tue, 7/12/11, Mosley, George  wrote:
> 
> > From: Mosley, George 
> > Subject: JCL Question
> > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> > Date: Tuesday, July 12, 2011, 1:27 PM
> > Hello All.
> > 
> > We're trying to set up a batch job that will append a
> > datestamp to a dataset name.
> > For example:
> > 
> > //S0 EXEC PGM=EMCSRDF
> > //SYSPRINT DD DSN=STRG.SRDF.INVTRKS.JUL09.@1408,
> > //   
> > STORCLAS=BASE,MGMTCLAS=MEDIUM,
> > //DISP=(,CATLG),
> > //   
> > SPACE=(TRK,(15,15),RLSE),
> > //   
> > DCB=(RECFM=FBA,LRECL=133,BLKSIZE=0)
> > //SYSINDD *
> > EMC-SQ VOL,44FA,INV_TRKS
> > /*  
> > 
> > When we run this job, we hard code JUL09.@1408 to the end
> > of the SYSPRINT dataset name.
> > Is there a way to have the JCL automatically add the
> > datestamp?
> > 
> > George (ICBC) 
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Re: JCL Question

2011-07-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL

>No looping construct.
>Has TIC

Looping constructs are not required to make it a programming language.

It makes it easier, but it's not required.

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Re: JCL Question

2011-07-12 Thread Binyamin Dissen

On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:36:09 + Ted MacNEIL  wrote:

:>I disagree.
:>JCL meets all criteria to be a programming language.
:>It doesn't do everything, but what language does?

No looping construct.

:>But, it is more complex than channel programmes, and they're considered a 
programming language.

Has TIC

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:>Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
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:>contrary to popular misconceptions, JCL is not a programming language, 
meaning it's not used to manipulate data.  To append data onto any existing 
file, code disp=mod instead of shr/new/old and use appropriate pgm/util to read 
in & write out what you want.  
:>
:>
:>--- On Tue, 7/12/11, Mosley, George  wrote:
:>
:>> From: Mosley, George 
:>> Subject: JCL Question
:>> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
:>> Date: Tuesday, July 12, 2011, 1:27 PM
:>> Hello All.
:>> 
:>> We're trying to set up a batch job that will append a
:>> datestamp to a dataset name.
:>> For example:
:>> 
:>> //S0     EXEC PGM=EMCSRDF
:>> //SYSPRINT DD DSN=STRG.SRDF.INVTRKS.JUL09.@1408,
:>> //           
:>> STORCLAS=BASE,MGMTCLAS=MEDIUM,
:>> //            DISP=(,CATLG),
:>> //           
:>> SPACE=(TRK,(15,15),RLSE),
:>> //           
:>> DCB=(RECFM=FBA,LRECL=133,BLKSIZE=0)
:>> //SYSIN    DD *
:>> EMC-SQ VOL,44FA,INV_TRKS
:>> /*  
:>> 
:>> When we run this job, we hard code JUL09.@1408 to the end
:>> of the SYSPRINT dataset name.
:>> Is there a way to have the JCL automatically add the
:>> datestamp?
:>> 
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Re: JCL Question

2011-07-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL

I disagree.
JCL meets all criteria to be a programming language.
It doesn't do everything, but what language does?

But, it is more complex than channel programmes, and they're considered a 
programming language.
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-Original Message-
From: Cris Hernandez #9 
Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 12:08:22 
To: 
Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
Subject: Re: JCL Question

contrary to popular misconceptions, JCL is not a programming language, meaning 
it's not used to manipulate data.  To append data onto any existing file, code 
disp=mod instead of shr/new/old and use appropriate pgm/util to read in & write 
out what you want.  


--- On Tue, 7/12/11, Mosley, George  wrote:

> From: Mosley, George 
> Subject: JCL Question
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Date: Tuesday, July 12, 2011, 1:27 PM
> Hello All.
> 
> We're trying to set up a batch job that will append a
> datestamp to a dataset name.
> For example:
> 
> //S0     EXEC PGM=EMCSRDF
> //SYSPRINT DD DSN=STRG.SRDF.INVTRKS.JUL09.@1408,
> //           
> STORCLAS=BASE,MGMTCLAS=MEDIUM,
> //            DISP=(,CATLG),
> //           
> SPACE=(TRK,(15,15),RLSE),
> //           
> DCB=(RECFM=FBA,LRECL=133,BLKSIZE=0)
> //SYSIN    DD *
> EMC-SQ VOL,44FA,INV_TRKS
> /*  
> 
> When we run this job, we hard code JUL09.@1408 to the end
> of the SYSPRINT dataset name.
> Is there a way to have the JCL automatically add the
> datestamp?
> 
> George (ICBC) 
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Re: JCL Question

2011-07-12 Thread Starr, Alan

George,

As others have mentioned, this is not a big deal IF the job can run as an STC 
(i.e. using dynamic system symbols).

I had a customer who absolutely insisted on doing something similar (i.e. 
placing a time-stamp in a DSN created by a batch job). I could easily do it 
with a REXX or CLIST (e.g. that uses ISPF File Tailoring or EDIT Macro services 
or even the EDIT CP).  I didn't want to do that, so I came up with an 
alternative that you may find too messy to utilize.

In a nutshell, the batch jobstep (S0 in your case) creates a dataset having a 
"base" DSN (i.e. without any date/time stamp information); this would be 
DSN=STRG.SRDF.INVTRKS in your case. A subsequent jobstep renames this dataset, 
adding a time-stamp. The JCL for that step is:

// SET MYDSN=STRG.SRDF.INVTRKS   
// SET STAMP='$(date "+.D%y%m%d.T%H%M%S")'   
//*  
//USS  EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH,REGION=31M, 
//   PARM='sh tso -t "RENAME ''&MYDSN'' ''&MYDSN&STAMP''"' 
//STDOUTDD SYSOUT=* 

The time-stamp comprises the current date (Dyymmdd) and time (Thhmmss). Be sure 
that you use CAPS OFF because case is significant. Also, it's very difficult to 
differentiate apostrophes from quotation marks in the sample above.  Here is 
the text of the parm with Q utilized as quotation mark (") and A utilized as 
apostrophe ('):
 //   PARM=Ash tso -t QRENAME AA&MYDSNAA AA&MYDSN&STAMPAAQA

Short explanation of what I am doing:

1) I am embedding a USS environment variable in the DSN using the special 
$(command) notation. This notation causes the OUTPUT of the specified command 
to be substituted in place of $(command)
2) The USS command that I am invoking is "date". The string specified in 
quotation marks, following the plus sign, is a mask. All characters except %_ 
(where _ represents some character) represent themselves (e.g. the D, T and .) 
%_ is replaced by some piece of the current date or time; there is a whole slew 
of possibilities (see USS commands).
3) the PARM tells the USS shell to invoke a TSO service (i.e. RENAME). The 
shell substitutes all USS environment values, including $(command), before 
invoking the tso service.

Cheers,
Alan

 

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Subject: JCL Question

Hello All.

We're trying to set up a batch job that will append a datestamp to a dataset 
name.
For example:

//S0 EXEC PGM=EMCSRDF
//SYSPRINT DD DSN=STRG.SRDF.INVTRKS.JUL09.@1408,
//STORCLAS=BASE,MGMTCLAS=MEDIUM,
//DISP=(,CATLG),
//SPACE=(TRK,(15,15),RLSE),
//DCB=(RECFM=FBA,LRECL=133,BLKSIZE=0)
//SYSINDD *
EMC-SQ VOL,44FA,INV_TRKS
/*  

When we run this job, we hard code JUL09.@1408 to the end of the SYSPRINT 
dataset name.
Is there a way to have the JCL automatically add the datestamp?

George (ICBC)

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Re: JCL Question

2011-07-12 Thread Cris Hernandez #9

contrary to popular misconceptions, JCL is not a programming language, meaning 
it's not used to manipulate data.  To append data onto any existing file, code 
disp=mod instead of shr/new/old and use appropriate pgm/util to read in & write 
out what you want.  


--- On Tue, 7/12/11, Mosley, George  wrote:

> From: Mosley, George 
> Subject: JCL Question
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Date: Tuesday, July 12, 2011, 1:27 PM
> Hello All.
> 
> We're trying to set up a batch job that will append a
> datestamp to a dataset name.
> For example:
> 
> //S0     EXEC PGM=EMCSRDF
> //SYSPRINT DD DSN=STRG.SRDF.INVTRKS.JUL09.@1408,
> //           
> STORCLAS=BASE,MGMTCLAS=MEDIUM,
> //            DISP=(,CATLG),
> //           
> SPACE=(TRK,(15,15),RLSE),
> //           
> DCB=(RECFM=FBA,LRECL=133,BLKSIZE=0)
> //SYSIN    DD *
> EMC-SQ VOL,44FA,INV_TRKS
> /*  
> 
> When we run this job, we hard code JUL09.@1408 to the end
> of the SYSPRINT dataset name.
> Is there a way to have the JCL automatically add the
> datestamp?
> 
> George (ICBC) 
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Re: JCL Question

2011-07-12 Thread Gerhard Postpischil


On 7/12/2011 1:27 PM, Mosley, George wrote:

We're trying to set up a batch job that will append a datestamp to a dataset 
name.
//SYSPRINT DD DSN=STRG.SRDF.INVTRKS.JUL09.@1408,
Is there a way to have the JCL automatically add the datestamp?


Not per se, but you could add code for the submission/conversion 
date in a system exit (e.g., IEFUJV, or one of the JES exits). 
Depending on how you get the JCL into the system, it might be 
easier to do as part of the submission process?



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Re: JCL Question

2011-07-12 Thread Veilleux, Jon L

I found this on the web and it appears to work but you can bypass the first job 
by running as a Started Task:

//ABAB77V1 JOB (0400,PT,PES),'KIRAN',CLASS=C,MSGCLASS=X,  
// MSGLEVEL=(1,1),NOTIFY=ABAB77,REGION=0008192K  
//STEP0100 EXEC PGM=EZACFSM1  
//SYSOUTDD SYSOUT=(*,INTRDR)  
//SYSIN DD DATA,DLM=@@
//ABAB77V2 JOB (0400,PT,PES),
// 'VIJAY',  
// CLASS=C,  
// MSGCLASS=X,
// NOTIFY=&SYSUID
//STEPK1   EXEC PGM=IEBGENER  
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSUT1   DD DSN=ABAB.TX.SND.SQUS0001.SI,DISP=SHR
//SYSUT2   DD DSN=ABAB.TX.SND.SQUS0001.SI.D&LYYMMDD..T&LHHMMSS,  
//DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),
//SPACE=(CYL,(2,2),RLSE),  
//DCB=(LRECL=890,RECFM=FB)  
//SYSIN   DD  DUMMY
@@  

For the Started Task all you need is:

//STEPK1   EXEC PGM=IEBGENER  
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSUT1   DD DSN=ABAB.TX.SND.SQUS0001.SI,DISP=SHR
//SYSUT2   DD DSN=ABAB.TX.SND.SQUS0001.SI.D&LYYMMDD..T&LHHMMSS,  
//DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),
//SPACE=(CYL,(2,2),RLSE),  
//DCB=(LRECL=890,RECFM=FB)  
//SYSIN   DD  DUMMY

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Subject: JCL Question

Hello All.

We're trying to set up a batch job that will append a datestamp to a dataset 
name.
For example:

//S0 EXEC PGM=EMCSRDF
//SYSPRINT DD DSN=STRG.SRDF.INVTRKS.JUL09.@1408,
//STORCLAS=BASE,MGMTCLAS=MEDIUM,
//DISP=(,CATLG),
//SPACE=(TRK,(15,15),RLSE),
//DCB=(RECFM=FBA,LRECL=133,BLKSIZE=0)
//SYSINDD *
EMC-SQ VOL,44FA,INV_TRKS
/*  

When we run this job, we hard code JUL09.@1408 to the end of the SYSPRINT 
dataset name.
Is there a way to have the JCL automatically add the datestamp?

George (ICBC)

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Re: JCL Question

2011-07-12 Thread Staller, Allan

IIRC, static system symbols can be substituted in JCL. Check the Init &
Tuning Guide for details as what the static system symbols are.

Try:

//SYSPRINT DD DSN=STRG.SRDF.INVTRKS.&SYSDATE.,
//STORCLAS=BASE,MGMTCLAS=MEDIUM,
//DISP=(,CATLG),
//SPACE=(TRK,(15,15),RLSE),
//DCB=(RECFM=FBA,LRECL=133,BLKSIZE=0)

(I think I got the syntax right). 

If that does not work, there are several utility programs on the CBT
"tape" (www.cbttape.org)
 that will perform symbol substitution for you.

HTH,


We're trying to set up a batch job that will append a datestamp to a
dataset name.
For example:

//SYSPRINT DD DSN=STRG.SRDF.INVTRKS.JUL09.@1408,
//STORCLAS=BASE,MGMTCLAS=MEDIUM,
//DISP=(,CATLG),
//SPACE=(TRK,(15,15),RLSE),
//DCB=(RECFM=FBA,LRECL=133,BLKSIZE=0)
//

 
When we run this job, we hard code JUL09.@1408 to the end of the
SYSPRINT dataset name.
Is there a way to have the JCL automatically add the datestamp?


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Re: JCL Question

2011-07-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin

On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:27:58 +, Mosley, George wrote:
>
>Is there a way to have the JCL automatically add the datestamp?
>
No.

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JCL Question

2011-07-12 Thread Mosley, George

Hello All.

We're trying to set up a batch job that will append a datestamp to a dataset 
name.
For example:

//S0 EXEC PGM=EMCSRDF
//SYSPRINT DD DSN=STRG.SRDF.INVTRKS.JUL09.@1408,
//STORCLAS=BASE,MGMTCLAS=MEDIUM,
//DISP=(,CATLG),
//SPACE=(TRK,(15,15),RLSE),
//DCB=(RECFM=FBA,LRECL=133,BLKSIZE=0)
//SYSINDD *
EMC-SQ VOL,44FA,INV_TRKS
/*  

When we run this job, we hard code JUL09.@1408 to the end of the SYSPRINT 
dataset name.
Is there a way to have the JCL automatically add the datestamp?

George (ICBC) 

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