Listing HIPERS

2007-08-15 Thread Sumi, Joseph J. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Is there an easy way to list all HIPERS for a given time frame for my
licensed products z/OS and z/OS related productsor all z/OS products
? I have do IBMLINK

Thanks, Joseph Sumi

 


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Re: Listing HIPERS

2007-08-15 Thread Tergerson, John
Joseph,

I think the easiest way to do this is to rely on ENHANCED HOLDDATA.
Make sure you have received current holddata, and then run an SMPE
report:

  SETBOUNDARY (GLOBAL)  .
  REPORT 
 ERRSYSMODS  
 ZONES(  
   MVST100   
   MVST111   
  )  
 NOPUNCH   . 

It will give you output like:

HOLD SYSMOD   APAR  ---RESOLVING SYSMOD   HOLDHOLD

FMID NAME NUMBERNAMESTATUS RECEIVED   CLASS   SYMPTOMS


---
 

HBB7730  HBB7730  AA06300  UA33609  HELD   YESHIPER
IPL,XSYS,SYSPLXDS
  AA16435  UA32817  GOOD   YESHIPER   FUL

  AA17009  UA32825  GOOD   YESHIPER   FUL

  AA17114  UA34633  GOOD   YESHIPER   IPL

  AA18380  UA32760  HELD   YESHIPER   FUL


 Hope that helps.
John


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Subject: Listing HIPERS

Is there an easy way to list all HIPERS for a given time frame for my
licensed products z/OS and z/OS related productsor all z/OS products
? I have do IBMLINK

Thanks, Joseph Sumi

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Re: Listing HIPERS

2007-08-15 Thread Sumi, Joseph J. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
I'm looking for something much easier.either using IBMLINK or
ShopzSeries to just get a list of HIPERS without having to pull
maintenance, etc. Thanks.

Rgrds, Joseph Sumi



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Subject: Re: Listing HIPERS

Joseph,

I think the easiest way to do this is to rely on ENHANCED HOLDDATA.
Make sure you have received current holddata, and then run an SMPE
report:

  SETBOUNDARY (GLOBAL)  .
  REPORT 
 ERRSYSMODS  
 ZONES(  
   MVST100   
   MVST111   
  )  
 NOPUNCH   . 

It will give you output like:

HOLD SYSMOD   APAR  ---RESOLVING SYSMOD   HOLDHOLD

FMID NAME NUMBERNAMESTATUS RECEIVED   CLASS   SYMPTOMS


---
 

HBB7730  HBB7730  AA06300  UA33609  HELD   YESHIPER
IPL,XSYS,SYSPLXDS
  AA16435  UA32817  GOOD   YESHIPER   FUL

  AA17009  UA32825  GOOD   YESHIPER   FUL

  AA17114  UA34633  GOOD   YESHIPER   IPL

  AA18380  UA32760  HELD   YESHIPER   FUL


 Hope that helps.
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Re: Listing HIPERS

2007-08-16 Thread Steve Runtsch
> I'm looking for something much easier.either using IBMLINK or
> ShopzSeries to just get a list of HIPERS without having to pull
> maintenance, etc. Thanks.
> 
> Rgrds, Joseph Sumi
> 
> 
This does not require downloading maintenance, only ENHANCED HOLDDATA as 
John mentioned.  It will show you only where you are lacking maintenance. 
You won't be bothered having to research HIPERs that you have already been 
addressed

Steve Runtsch

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Re: Listing HIPERS

2007-08-16 Thread Ed Gould

On Aug 16, 2007, at 9:29 AM, Steve Runtsch wrote:


I'm looking for something much easier.either using IBMLINK or
ShopzSeries to just get a list of HIPERS without having to pull
maintenance, etc. Thanks.

Rgrds, Joseph Sumi


This does not require downloading maintenance, only ENHANCED  
HOLDDATA as
John mentioned.  It will show you only where you are lacking  
maintenance.
You won't be bothered having to research HIPERs that you have  
already been

addressed




Steve:

True but its only as current as the easy enhanced holddata. I have  
seen apars go hiper in a half an hour or so. So, IMO its still needed  
to do the online research.


Ed

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Re: Listing HIPERS

2007-08-16 Thread Sumi, Joseph J. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
What I will probably do is to have the programmers use IBMLINK ASAP and
enter FMID's to track their productsI still would have thought that
there was a way to put in a date range and get back a 1-line description
of the HIPER PTF, FMID, Componenet, Date, Description.

The Enhanced Hold Data output is ugly (or I'm pulling it incorrectly),
FYI: Is this what you guys see ??

++NULL  //.

++NULL  /* Enhanced HOLDDATA from 07/16/2007 to 08/15/2007  */.

++NULL  /* Current updates and additional information regarding */.

++NULL  /* Enhanced HOLDDATA is available on the world-wide web */.

++NULL  /* at http://service.boulder.ibm.com/390holddata.html   */.

++NULL  //.

++ NULL. /* Enhanced Holddata from 07/16/2007 to 08/15/2007 */

++HOLD(AKDF540) FMID(AKDF540) REASON(AA21624) ERROR DATE(07200)

 COMMENT(SMRTDATA(FIX(UA35557) SYMP(FUL)

 CHGDT(070719))) CLASS(HIPER).

++HOLD(AKD2540) FMID(AKD2540) REASON(AA21234) ERROR DATE(07201)

 COMMENT(SMRTDATA(FIX(UA35594) CHGDT(070720))) CLASS(HIPER).

++HOLD(HAAD610) FMID(HAAD610) REASON(AK48496) ERROR DATE(07222)

 COMMENT(SMRTDATA(SYMP(PRF) CHGDT(070810)))

 CLASS(HIPER).

++HOLD(HABW110) FMID(HABW110) REASON(AK49416) ERROR DATE(07216)

 COMMENT(SMRTDATA(FIX(UK27788) SYMP(IPL)

 CHGDT(070804))) CLASS(HIPER).

++HOLD(HABW110) FMID(HABW110) REASON(AK50497) ERROR DATE(07221)

 COMMENT(SMRTDATA(FIX(UK28033) SYMP(IPL)

 CHGDT(070809))) CLASS(HIPER).

++HOLD(HAB6610) FMID(HAB6610) REASON(AK45173) ERROR DATE(07216)

 COMMENT(SMRTDATA(FIX(UK27768) SYMP(FUL)

 CHGDT(070804))) CLASS(HIPER).

++HOLD(HBB7707) FMID(HBB7707) REASON(AA18045) ERROR DATE(07206)

 COMMENT(SMRTDATA(FIX(UA29840) SYMP(FUL,PRV)

 CHGDT(070725))) CLASS(HIPER).

++HOLD(HBB7707) FMID(HBB7707) REASON(AA21131) ERROR DATE(07200)






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Re: Listing HIPERS

2007-08-16 Thread Tergerson, John
Joseph,

That is the ENHANCED HOLDDATA.  You don't need to read any of it, just
receive it into your SMPE GLOBAL CSI.  As you can see in the header, it
is as current as the previous day.  Make sure there are no gaps in
holddata received.  In your example, the file covers only the last
month.  You can retrieve holddata that covers the last two years.

Your report will show you what applies to YOUR system at its current
state.  There is no need to develop complex queries and try to
understand which piece of maintenance you found applies to you.
Everything in the report applies to your system, and it is current.

Ed, if you really have nothing better to do than look every half hour
for additional HIPER maintenance, you really need a life :)  Yesterday
is current enough for me.

John 


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Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 11:10 AM
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Subject: Re: Listing HIPERS

What I will probably do is to have the programmers use IBMLINK ASAP and
enter FMID's to track their productsI still would have thought that
there was a way to put in a date range and get back a 1-line description
of the HIPER PTF, FMID, Componenet, Date, Description.

The Enhanced Hold Data output is ugly (or I'm pulling it incorrectly),
FYI: Is this what you guys see ??

++NULL  //.

++NULL  /* Enhanced HOLDDATA from 07/16/2007 to 08/15/2007  */.

++NULL  /* Current updates and additional information regarding */.

++NULL  /* Enhanced HOLDDATA is available on the world-wide web */.

++NULL  /* at http://service.boulder.ibm.com/390holddata.html   */.

++NULL  //.

++ NULL. /* Enhanced Holddata from 07/16/2007 to 08/15/2007 */

++HOLD(AKDF540) FMID(AKDF540) REASON(AA21624) ERROR DATE(07200)

 COMMENT(SMRTDATA(FIX(UA35557) SYMP(FUL)

 CHGDT(070719))) CLASS(HIPER).

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Re: Listing HIPERS

2007-08-16 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:09:37 -0400, Sumi, Joseph J. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>What I will probably do is to have the programmers use IBMLINK ASAP and
>enter FMID's to track their productsI still would have thought that
>there was a way to put in a date range and get back a 1-line description
>of the HIPER PTF, FMID, Componenet, Date, Description.
>
>The Enhanced Hold Data output is ugly (or I'm pulling it incorrectly),
>FYI: Is this what you guys see ??

What is it that you are trying to accomplish?  As has been mentioned, the 
enhanced holddata is intended to tell SMP/E about holds and resolutions.  
Have you received the enhanced holddata and run a report errorsysmods 
report as has been suggested?  It tells about all known errors in your target 
zone(s) and any available resolving PTFs.

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Re: Listing HIPERS

2007-08-16 Thread Sumi, Joseph J. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Let me give more background. My role is management of this activity and
I do not receive, apply, etc. We need to change our maint philosophy on
how we handle HIPERS. IE: We build z/OS 1.8 on a test system with a July
ESO but do not go production to October. I want to find out about HIPERS
from July-September. They would be evaluated to make sure nothing hot is
missing. We would then selectively apply HIPERS that are applicable.
That's my idea right now.

Are you saying that if my MVS guy received 90-days of enhanced holddata,
we could look it over and selectively apply what is needed or would all
90-days worth of this maint go on? What would you (or others) do with my
example scenario..? Also, going forward from October, how would you
handle HIPERS that come out. 

Thanks.  



Rgrds, Joseph Sumi 


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Subject: Re: Listing HIPERS

Joseph,

That is the ENHANCED HOLDDATA.  You don't need to read any of it, just
receive it into your SMPE GLOBAL CSI.  As you can see in the header, it
is as current as the previous day.  Make sure there are no gaps in
holddata received.  In your example, the file covers only the last
month.  You can retrieve holddata that covers the last two years.

Your report will show you what applies to YOUR system at its current
state.  There is no need to develop complex queries and try to
understand which piece of maintenance you found applies to you.
Everything in the report applies to your system, and it is current.

Ed, if you really have nothing better to do than look every half hour
for additional HIPER maintenance, you really need a life :)  Yesterday
is current enough for me.

John

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Re: Listing HIPERS

2007-08-16 Thread Tergerson, John
Joseph,

The 90 days worth of holddata might be correct in this case, just
because your system, built in July, is less than 90 days old.  There
won't be a gap in the holddata.  Before you run any report, retrieve
current holddata into your system that covers back to the last date you
retrieved holddata.  Don't bother trying to read the data itself.

If you run a report today, and the holddata is current, it will show
what PTF errors and HIPER errors your system is known to be exposed to
today.  If your production date is October, then, sometime before you go
to production, get the holddata current and run another report.  You
will undoubtedly see additional entries.  Maintenance applied in the
interim will possibly eliminate entries seen in the first report.  Take
care of the entries that look serious enough to your shop.

Each report will show you what errors you are known to be exposed to and
will be as current as the holddata.

There are lots of other ways to receive notification of potential
problems.  One is this forum, another is the IBMLink Automatic Software
Alert Process, another is a subscription to IBM flashes.  They will give
warning between your refresh of holddata.  Those entries should show up
in the holddata as well, and very quickly after they become known by the
IBM support teams.

You can also, as you asked in the first place, do your own searching and
wading through results.  I just don't do much of that, so I don't know
how to do efficient queries that won't also potentially miss errors I
would have wanted to see, and the holddata is so darned easy.

John  


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Behalf Of Sumi, Joseph J. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 12:40 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Listing HIPERS

Let me give more background. My role is management of this activity and
I do not receive, apply, etc. We need to change our maint philosophy on
how we handle HIPERS. IE: We build z/OS 1.8 on a test system with a July
ESO but do not go production to October. I want to find out about HIPERS
from July-September. They would be evaluated to make sure nothing hot is
missing. We would then selectively apply HIPERS that are applicable.
That's my idea right now.

Are you saying that if my MVS guy received 90-days of enhanced holddata,
we could look it over and selectively apply what is needed or would all
90-days worth of this maint go on? What would you (or others) do with my
example scenario..? Also, going forward from October, how would you
handle HIPERS that come out. 

Thanks.  



Rgrds, Joseph Sumi

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Re: Listing HIPERS

2007-08-16 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:40:00 -0400, Sumi, Joseph J. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Let me give more background. My role is management of this activity and
>I do not receive, apply, etc. We need to change our maint philosophy on
>how we handle HIPERS. IE: We build z/OS 1.8 on a test system with a July
>ESO but do not go production to October. I want to find out about HIPERS
>from July-September. They would be evaluated to make sure nothing hot is
>missing. We would then selectively apply HIPERS that are applicable.
>That's my idea right now.
>
>Are you saying that if my MVS guy received 90-days of enhanced holddata,
>we could look it over and selectively apply what is needed or would all
>90-days worth of this maint go on? What would you (or others) do with my
>example scenario..? Also, going forward from October, how would you
>handle HIPERS that come out.

I would do two things.  I'd run errorsysmods reports as John Tergerson 
suggested, always receiving the latest enhanced holddata first.  I'd also apply 
RSU service.  See
http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/servicetst/

Yes, your MVS guy can selectively apply service, though it's not the way I'd 
do it.  My preference would be to get the latest holddata and apply the most 
recent quarterly RSU.  Then I'd run errorsysmods reports examine any errors 
that it points out.

One of the problems with a blind search for HIPERs is that you are really only 
interested in those that affect your system.  You can easily become 
overwhelmed by the number of PTFs if you don't limit it to those that affect 
your system.

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Re: Listing HIPERS

2007-08-16 Thread Debbie Mitchell
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:40:00 -0400, Sumi, Joseph J. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 IE: We build z/OS 1.8 on a test system with a July
>ESO but do not go production to October. I want to find out about HIPERS
>from July-September. They would be evaluated to make sure nothing hot is
>missing. We would then selectively apply HIPERS that are applicable.
>That's my idea right now.
>

I've always reviewed the PSP buckets shortly before going to production. 
It's served me well over the years.

Debbie Mitchell
Utica National Insurance Group

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Re: Listing HIPERS

2007-08-16 Thread Ed Gould

On Aug 16, 2007, at 10:28 AM, Tergerson, John wrote:


SNIP__
Ed, if you really have nothing better to do than look every half hour
for additional HIPER maintenance, you really need a life :)  Yesterday
is current enough for me.

John




If that is what is good for you fine, personally I would expect no  
less from anyone. I would also expect to monitor all new hipers for  
at least a week (or two) after maintenance goes on. I do have a life  
but maintenance is part of it and if you had a baby would you leave  
it out on the front lawn because you have checked the neighborhood  
for wolves (and found none) ?


When my "baby" goes into production I am in proactive mode not  
reactive. I don't wait for the wolf to come to my street corner. i  
also monitor logrec and system dumps all the time. That is how you  
find things that are in the process of breaking.


Saying that, not all hipers are really important. If there is one out  
there for a component we don't use I don't rush to put it on, the  
next round of IPL's is fine. But if a hiper PTF came out got lets say  
VSAM it would go on as fast as I can schedule it (or sooner if it  
breaks something).


This was a lesson learned by me after 5 years of MVS sysproging I  
have constantly refined it over the years. Yes MVS has gotten better  
but lessons learned, it is almost always better to be safe than have  
something broke at 2AM. We don't have (anymore) mega ptf tapes thanks  
to better testing by IBM but coders are not perfect and mistakes do  
happen.


Ed

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Re: Listing HIPERS

2007-08-16 Thread Tergerson, John
Ed,

Joseph's question was about how to monitor HIPER fixes, not about how
and when to apply maintenance.  I try to always go through a current
round of RSU maintenance before a product goes into production to keep
it as current as possible just as Tom described.  

As Debbie pointed out, PSP buckets are important too, expecially because
of issues other than maintenance.

OOPS! Gotta run outside now and retrieve Junior before the lawn service
comes to mow!

John


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Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 2:42 PM
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Subject: Re: Listing HIPERS

On Aug 16, 2007, at 10:28 AM, Tergerson, John wrote:

> SNIP__
> Ed, if you really have nothing better to do than look every half hour 
> for additional HIPER maintenance, you really need a life :)  Yesterday

> is current enough for me.
>
> John
>


If that is what is good for you fine, personally I would expect no less
from anyone. I would also expect to monitor all new hipers for at least
a week (or two) after maintenance goes on. I do have a life but
maintenance is part of it and if you had a baby would you leave it out
on the front lawn because you have checked the neighborhood for wolves
(and found none) ?

When my "baby" goes into production I am in proactive mode not reactive.
I don't wait for the wolf to come to my street corner. i also monitor
logrec and system dumps all the time. That is how you find things that
are in the process of breaking.

Saying that, not all hipers are really important. If there is one out
there for a component we don't use I don't rush to put it on, the next
round of IPL's is fine. But if a hiper PTF came out got lets say VSAM it
would go on as fast as I can schedule it (or sooner if it breaks
something).

This was a lesson learned by me after 5 years of MVS sysproging I have
constantly refined it over the years. Yes MVS has gotten better but
lessons learned, it is almost always better to be safe than have
something broke at 2AM. We don't have (anymore) mega ptf tapes thanks to
better testing by IBM but coders are not perfect and mistakes do happen.

Ed

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Re: Listing HIPERS

2007-08-16 Thread Steve Runtsch
Ed Gould wrote on 08/16/2007 09:51:55 AM:

> True but its only as current as the easy enhanced holddata.

I agree completely.  Enhanced holddata could be up to a week out-of-date.

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Re: Listing HIPERS

2007-08-16 Thread Clark Morris
On 16 Aug 2007 09:24:57 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

>On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:09:37 -0400, Sumi, Joseph J. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>What I will probably do is to have the programmers use IBMLINK ASAP and
>>enter FMID's to track their productsI still would have thought that
>>there was a way to put in a date range and get back a 1-line description
>>of the HIPER PTF, FMID, Componenet, Date, Description.
>>
>>The Enhanced Hold Data output is ugly (or I'm pulling it incorrectly),
>>FYI: Is this what you guys see ??
>
>What is it that you are trying to accomplish?  As has been mentioned, the 
>enhanced holddata is intended to tell SMP/E about holds and resolutions.  
>Have you received the enhanced holddata and run a report errorsysmods 
>report as has been suggested?  It tells about all known errors in your target 
>zone(s) and any available resolving PTFs.
Does the report ERROR SYSMODS tell you if you have an error against a
function or PTF that has been ACCEPTED?  Many years ago if the sysmod
was ACCEPTED the PE wouldn't show.

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Re: Listing HIPERS

2007-08-16 Thread Ed Gould

On Aug 16, 2007, at 2:05 PM, Tergerson, John wrote:


Ed,

Joseph's question was about how to monitor HIPER fixes, not about how
and when to apply maintenance.  I try to always go through a current
round of RSU maintenance before a product goes into production to keep
it as current as possible just as Tom described.

As Debbie pointed out, PSP buckets are important too, expecially  
because

of issues other than maintenance.

OOPS! Gotta run outside now and retrieve Junior before the lawn  
service

comes to mow!

John



Well, the PSP buckets are not necessarily well maintained, IMO. Don't  
get me wrong they are useful but usually it takes at least one or two  
major incidents for them to make it into there (at least in years  
past). Needless to say I don't like major incidents so I would rather  
be proactive and monitor all hiper activity. IME it usually takes  
somebody bitterly complaining about X to get it into that bucket (not  
always just sometimes). IBMLINK is reasonably the only way to monitor  
*CURRENT* important issues. In the past it (at least what I have  
seen) it really takes something important to happen to get it pushed  
to the top of the crock pot. That is one of the semi unfortunate  
byproducts of not having a human at the other end of the line it is  
dependent on somebody (level 1 or level 2) to raise a red flag saying  
this is an important issue. I do not profess to be an expert in level  
1 & 2 but as time goes by the people in the trenches are not the  
decision makers in hipers.


Ed

ps: John, I would be more careful of your baby in the future:)

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Re: Listing HIPERS

2007-08-16 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 16:44:03 -0300, Clark Morris wrote:

>Does the report ERROR SYSMODS tell you if you have an error against a
>function or PTF that has been ACCEPTED?  Many years ago if the sysmod
>was ACCEPTED the PE wouldn't show.

AFAIK it works fine.

Did you weren't running the REPORT ERRSYSMODS against the global zone 
after doing a REJECT of what was accepted?  I'd expect those not to show 
up, since they are no longer in RECIEVE status.  IMO, the REPORT 
ERRSYSMODS of the global zone isn't very interesting.

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Re: Listing HIPERS

2007-08-17 Thread Tergerson, John
That one took about 30 seconds to figure out.

 HOLD SYSMOD   APAR  ---RESOLVING SYSMOD   HOLDHOLD
 FMID NAME NUMBERNAMESTATUS RECEIVED   CLASS   SYMPTOMS
  UA31645  AA21256  UA35069  GOOD   YESPE 


See that there entry, UA31645?  It is accepted. 


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>Does the report ERROR SYSMODS tell you if you have an error against a
function or PTF that has been ACCEPTED?  Many years ago if the sysmod
was ACCEPTED >the PE wouldn't show.

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Re: Listing HIPERS

2007-08-17 Thread John Eells

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Ed Gould wrote on 08/16/2007 09:51:55 AM:


True but its only as current as the easy enhanced holddata.


I agree completely.  Enhanced holddata could be up to a week out-of-date.




Just to make absolutely sure nothing had changed, I checked with 
the person who runs the Enhanced HOLDDATA process this morning. 
Here's how this works today:


Enhanced HOLDDATA is generated daily from the RETAIN transaction 
files by a scheduled job that runs in the early hours of the 
morning.  When someone in Level 2 marks a PTF PE, the generation 
of the appropriate ++HOLDs is entirely automatic.  The same 
happens if the PE flag is removed from an APAR, except that a 
++RELEASE is generated.


We are aware of _no_ instance since the inception of Enhanced 
HOLDDATA in which it was ever a week out of date.  (A day, 
perhaps, if a problem occurred when the job ran, but not a week! 
 And those glitches are thankfully rare.)


However, note that if you use a browser to display the HOLDDATA 
from the website, your browser might use a cached copy depending 
on your settings.  That can make it appear as though the HOLDDATA 
is out of date.  If you download the file and look at it, 
however, you will see the current data.


If you do that now, you can see that the HOLDs are current 
through 07228--that's yesterday, as I'd normally expect.


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Re: Listing HIPERS

2007-08-18 Thread Clark Morris
On 16 Aug 2007 14:28:30 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

>On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 16:44:03 -0300, Clark Morris wrote:
>
>>Does the report ERROR SYSMODS tell you if you have an error against a
>>function or PTF that has been ACCEPTED?  Many years ago if the sysmod
>>was ACCEPTED the PE wouldn't show.
>
>AFAIK it works fine.
>
>Did you weren't running the REPORT ERRSYSMODS against the global zone 
>after doing a REJECT of what was accepted?  I'd expect those not to show 
>up, since they are no longer in RECIEVE status.  IMO, the REPORT 
>ERRSYSMODS of the global zone isn't very interesting.

The last time that I would have done active SMP work was 1991 and
probably earlier than that.  Subsequent time has been spent on the
bench or in applications.  I was on a year 2000 project and did
applications support and wrote a library inventory matching system
using IDRDATA and other load module information, parsed source and
copy library information and other interesting things to support
conversion to LE and maintaining synchronization between Y2K source
and production source.

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