Re: Mount a tape in flexes
Jerry You have to define the device to Flexes first. Go to a terminal window (We have Linux) and enter D DEVSTATE 590 it should show the a file name like /dev/st1 or /dev/st0 If not you will have to issue a mount command to z/OS 1.6. If your FLEX box is from Cornerstone, there should be a window where you issue the shutdown command. Go to that window and issue mount 590 /dev/st0 or /dev/st1 depending on your configuration This will let the z/OS image know where the tape drive is attached. You should then be able to get to the tape drive. I recommend you use the UNIT=560 or UNIT=590 since you only have the one drive. Either it is there or not. 10.59.07 JOB01285 *IEF233A M 0560,IC0413,,RAYX,T01,IBM.HABR110.F1 10.59.49 IEE457I 10.59.49 UNIT STATUS 981 UNIT TYPE STATUSVOLSER VOLSTATE 0560 3480 A-BSY-R IC0413 PRIV/REMOV 0561 3480 OFFLINE /REMOV -Original Message- Subject: Mount a tape in flexes Hi all, First of all sorry for such a vague question which I have posted yesterday and I can understand that your frustrastions are obvious. Anyways, thanks for all your responses. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Mount a tape
At 01:07 -0600 on 02/02/2006, Bruce Hewson wrote about Re: Mount a tape: Volume mounts can be done manually or the system can automatically do it for you. Manual mounts are done via Console Operator command. Automatic mounts are performed when allocation requires a volume not currently mounted. You missed AVR (Automatic Volume Recognition) Mounts where is where the operator just places the tape in an unused tape drive (as opposed to mounting it which will keep it on the drive after use). So long as there are enough spare drives to handle the automatic mounts, the operating system will ignore the drive until a job asks for the volume (at which point it will be allocated and get used as if it were requested by auto mount [ie: unloaded after use]). In the war story area, I remember a new data center that was opened on a high numbered floor of a building and had non-IBM Brand Tape Drives. As soon as they went live, they started to have problems with the drives which at about 4:30 PM every day would unmount all the tapes (Actually just spilling the tape loops into the vacuum columns) and keep doing it until about 5:00 PM. It took engineers from the tape drive supplier to find the defect [which was confused by the fact that the first day they were there it did not occur]. It was finally fixed by putting up window shades on the windows opposite the drives. At 4:30 the Sun would be reflected off the glass walled office building across the street into the Data Center (except that first day when it was raining/cloudy) and into the Tape Columns which used Light Cells not Air Jets [like the IBM Drives] to monitor the location of the Tape Loops. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Mount a tape
I really think that in this type of question, someone should basically ask for clarification, and then everyone should wait until the person furthur states his question. If not, why waste all of the bandwidth answering maybe this is what he wanted. Agreed. It would have been nice if Jerry had replied to clarify his question. If we (the collective IBM-MAIN we) had asked him nicely to do so he might have replied. But I suspect that the testy replies have scared him off. Jerry, if you are still listening, please let us know what you really needed to know. We aren't all grouchy! -- Bruce A. Black Senior Software Developer for FDR Innovation Data Processing 973-890-7300 personal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] sales info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tech support: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.innovationdp.fdr.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Mount a tape
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/02/2006 at 03:06 PM, Anne Lynn Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: the 1401 was used for unit record-tape frontend for 709; 709? You didn't trade it in on a 7090? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Mount a tape
I agree too. That was why I threw out some questions to try to clarify
his situation. Jerry did reply and clarify eventually, except that he
used two other threads ('Mount a tape in flexes', 'IBMLINK vs
techsupport.service.ibm.com') instead of this one.
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I really think that in this type of question, someone should basically
ask for clarification, and then everyone should wait until the person
furthur states his question. If not, why waste all of the bandwidth
answering maybe this is what he wanted.
Agreed. It would have been nice if Jerry had replied to clarify his
question. If we (the collective IBM-MAIN we) had asked him nicely to
do so he might have replied. But I suspect that the testy replies have
scared him off. Jerry, if you are still listening, please let us know
what you really needed to know. We aren't all grouchy!
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Re: Mount a tape
Louis Krupp wrote: Don't forget the write ring. Leave it off when you intended to write to the tape, and you had to unload and reload the tape all over again. Leave it on when you didn't mean to, and the tape might get purged by mistake. i had some stuff from the late 60s and early 70s replicated on three different tapes (over the years copying from 800bpi to 1600bpi to 6250bpi tape) ... but all in the same datacenter library in the mid-80s. it included some stuff on periodically monitoring system activity and using the information for dynamic adaptive feedback control. i had created dynamic adaptive feedback scheduler in the 60s as an undergraduate that included fairshare as a default policy ... that was shipped in cp67. much of the code was dropped in the morph from cp67 to vm370. however, i was given a chance to re-introduce it with the resource manager (shipped spring 1976). for a little more drift, the resource manager was selected to be the guinea pig for priced kernel software. with the unbundling announcement on 6/23/69, application software started being charged for ... but kernel software was still shipped free (under the justification that it was needed to run the hardware ... aka bundled). by the mid-70s, various factors (like 370 clones) were contributing to pressure to pricing kernel software. i got to spend six months or so on and off with business and pricing people on policies for pricing kernel software. misc. past bundling/unbundling posts http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#unbundle anyway, by the mid-80s, some people from corporate came looking for early examples of periodic monitoring of system performance activity ... having to do with some litigation or patent issue. i went to retrieve the code and found that all three tapes had been written over. apparently there was some problem in the datacenter with operators randomly selecting tapes to be mounted as scratch (i.e. the ring was inserted for a request to mount a scratch tape for writing). recent post reproducing part of the resource manager blue announcement letter (actually beige at this time, but still commonly referred to as blue ... i don't actually still have a paper copy but was presented an engraved plaque of the announcement letter that has survived). http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006.html#19 DCSS as SWAP disk for z/Linux -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Mount a tape
Jerry did reply and clarify eventually, except that he
used two other threads ('Mount a tape in flexes', 'IBMLINK vs
techsupport.service.ibm.com') instead of this one.
Ah so. I didn't notice those were from him (especially the second
one). Even the first subject made me wonder whats a flex?) until I
read the text (sorry, Jerry)
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Re: Mount a tape
Please let me know how to mount a tape and how to verify whether it is mounted or not. - Pick up the reel of tape. - Put it on the capestan of the tapedrive, the number of which is indicated in the mount message on the console. - Press the LOAD button. - Press the RESET button. Cheers, Jantje. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Mount a tape
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/01/2006 at 11:28 AM, Porowski, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Perhaps I might have asked this newsgroup First, most of us aren't reading a news group. Second, on most news groups the author of such an article would have been soundly flamed rather than mildly questioned. It's a jungle out there. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT Atid/2http://patriot.net/~shmuel We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Mount a tape
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/01/2006 at 05:16 PM, Chris Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: What's that expression used on your side of the pond, Let's cut some slack here? The question is How much? Let us assume that I knew there were incredibly helpful newsgroups available where every technical problem can be mulled over in detail That doesn't sound like the Usenet I know. Google for homework. Perhaps I might have asked this newsgroup The Devil is in the details. What might you have asked? Ted was extremely polite by Usenet standards. BTW, Ted was not posting to a news group, he was sending to a mail list. rather than my local help desk I would expect the local help desk to ask him what he was trying to do. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Mount a tape
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/01/2006 at 10:33 AM, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: And me, being really nasty, would likely go into reminisces and detail how, in the old days, we had to route the tape out of the reel, through the capstans, down and up the vacuum chambers, You had vacuum columns? We had to[1] use gravity bins[2] ;-) [1] Well, I actually saw vacuum columns before I saw gravity bins. [2] If you don't know what gravity bins are, you don't want to know. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Mount a tape
Hi all, Please let me know how to mount a tape and how to verify whether it is mounted or not. Thanks in advance. -Jerry Hope Jerry is not intimidated by grumpy old mainframers. I would like to hear the question expanded. Even if this is for school, I would be interested. If someone is studying the dinosaurs, then you are smarter than most. I am sure long ago many of us asked questions less specific and were helped along by those who wanted more blood in the field. I am sure many of us would assist offline to the list to get this answered. Most oldtimers may have this rough exterior but underneath beats a heart of gold. Hey, one lesson learned for us all, was one sentence is not enough to ask almost any question. Jim -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Mount a tape in flexes
Hi all, First of all sorry for such a vague question which I have posted yesterday and I can understand that your frustrastions are obvious. Anyways, thanks for all your responses. Now I will give my question in detail - Hi have a FLEXES based emulated z/OS 1.6 and I have a tape drive attached to it. Now I have a 3480 catridge, which has a installation setup in it. I need to get the some contents of in to my DASD. I issued d u,tape,online I got - RESPONSE=ADCD IEE457I 08.26.19 UNIT STATUS 504 UNIT TYPE STATUSVOLSER VOLSTATE 0590 3490 O-NRD-R /REMOV NRD - Not ready O - Online R - Reserved, shared DASD or exclusively-assigned device With this I confirmed that unit 0590 is online and I prepared a JCL to unload the contents from the tape. The JCL I used is - //COPYINST JOB NOTIFY=SYSUID //* //COPYSTEP EXEC PGM=IEBCOPY //MOUNTDD DD DSN=MY.TAPE.DATASET,UNIT=3490,DISP=(,CATLG) //* //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //* //SYSUT3 DD UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(CYL,(1,1)) //R2 DD UNIT=3490, //VOL=SER=RIMS01,LABEL=3,DSN=IBM.HCI64.F2, //DISP=(OLD,KEEP) //TDFHINST DD DSN=CICSTS31.TDFHINST,DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE), //UNIT=SYSDA, //SPACE=(TRK,(24,6,5)), //VOL=SER=DSK31E //SYSIN DD * COPY INDD=R2,OUTDD=TDFHINST /* When I submit this JCL and I found in the logs - ICH70001I IBMUSER LAST ACCESS AT 07:10:19 ON THURSDAY, $HASP373 COPYINST STARTED - INIT 1- CLASS A - SYS S *IEF233A M 0590,RIMS01,,COPYINST,COPYSTEP,IBM.HCI64.F2 Then I tried d u,tape,online - RESPONSE=ADCD IEE457I 07.19.49 UNIT STATUS 374 UNIT TYPE STATUSVOLSER VOLSTATE 0590 3490 A-MTP-R RIMS01 PRIV/REMOV A -Allocated MTP- Mount pending R- Reserved, shared DASD or exclusively-assigned device With this I found the mount is pending so I cancelled the job and then tried mounting the tape with - M 590,VOL=(SL,RIMS01) and I find in the logs - *IEF233D M 0590,RIMS01,,MOUNT,590,SYS06033.T082929.RA000.MOUNT.R0100069 521 OR RESPOND TO IEF455D MESSAGE *17 IEF455D MOUNT RIMS01 ON 0590 FOR MOUNT 590 OR REPLY 'NO' I tried reply 17 with 590 but it is not accepting. From your earlier reponses I understand that there might me a separate procedure to mount a tape in FLEXES based z/OS. Please let me know how to proceed in this case. Hope I am clear... Thanks in advance -Jerry -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Mount a tape in flexes
One basic question - have you used the tape on the 1.6 image before? If not, there is a whole list of steps to make sure the device type matches the z/os device type and the tape is online to unix, so the flex instance can see it. Check the manuals at funsoft and the flex listserv archives. Mike -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Mount a tape
Desi de la Garza wrote: Way to go Bruce. Helping out Jerry has made you a better person no matter how silly the question was. Thanks, Desi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Black Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 1:27 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mount a tape Please let me know how to mount a tape and how to verify whether it is mounted or not. Jerry, in all the replies, some of them sort of testy, no one has actually responded to you, so let me try. You did ask a very broad question with no details so I can't be very specific. This does sound like a homework question or an interview question. I assume your environment is the IBM z/OS operating system (or one of its predecessors). In a batch job, you include a DD statement calling for a tape. The details depend on your installation but as a general example //ddname DD DSN=MY.TAPE.DATASET,UNIT=TAPE,DISP=(,CATLG) will mount a scratch (output) tape. When your program issues an OPEN, OPEN will verify that the tape is mounted and ready. If you are writing in assembler, you can use dynamic allocation (SVC 99) to dynamically mount and input or output tape. DYNALLOC will verify that the tape is mounted before it returns to you. I was trying to stay out of this thread because I thought it was a homework or some other such question but having seen some of the responses, I have an urgent need to add my thoughts. When I first saw the question, I was thinking the person wanted to know how to physically mount a tape. After all he didn't ask about JCL or a program or a console command. That got me to thinking about how I learned back in the barely light years. (They didn't have computers in the dark ages). In my very first programming job we had an IBM 370-?? CPU with DOS and Power operating systems. We didn't use tape much in our shop but we had to get a drive because IBM in those days sent everything out on tape. So we had some unit (don't remember the numerals) that had two spindles and a sliding glass door. It definitely had a vacuum load because you could hear it sucking when you readied a tape. Having never been exposed to this hardware in college and having to come in on weekends to load operating system and other IBM software without the presence of an operator, I had to learn how to mount a tape. I remember you had to press a button to open the doors, mount the tape reel on a spindle or hub (whatever you call that thingy in the middle), thread the tape across the heads and through another path. Press another button and the doors closed, the vacuum sucked the tape up the rest of the way and onto the take-up reel and readied the tape at the first readable block, which might be the label if it was a labeled tape. So maybe my experiences will help. Who knows? Steve Wiegand -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Mount a tape
I was trying to stay out of this thread because I thought it was a homework or some other such question but having seen some of the responses, I have an urgent need to add my thoughts. When I first saw the question, I was thinking the person wanted to know how to physically mount a tape. I can't resist adding this story (then I will shut up, promise). Many moons ago, at a previous employer, we had the grand idea of producing a training video for new operators. This was back in the days of 3330 mountable disks. We wanted to show how to mount a tape, but somehow the job we submitted to do so had a 3330 disk volser in the tape JCL. So we got a great video of the operator standing in front of the tape drive, holding a 3330 disk in her hands, with a very puzzled look on her face. -- Bruce A. Black Senior Software Developer for FDR Innovation Data Processing 973-890-7300 personal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] sales info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tech support: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.innovationdp.fdr.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Mount a tape
You have hit the mother load... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jan MOEYERSONS Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 7:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mount a tape Please let me know how to mount a tape and how to verify whether it is mounted or not. - Pick up the reel of tape. - Put it on the capestan of the tapedrive, the number of which is indicated in the mount message on the console. - Press the LOAD button. - Press the RESET button. Cheers, Jantje. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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I have never mounted a 3420-type tape. There - I have said it - and I feel much better. If you put me in front of such a device with a nice big 6250bpi tape in my hands - my face will bear the same pitiful puzzled expression often observed by my Dad when he is trying to get me to do DIY or car maintenance. Rob Scott Rocket Software http://www.rs.com/portfolio/mxi/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rob Scott I have never mounted a 3420-type tape. There - I have said it - and I feel much better. Had to mount a few hundred 3420 tapes on a 3430 drive once -- *LARGE* PITA And those big outer rings were too fragile to use in write ring sports. :-| -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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What is the message on the display on your tape drive? If it is Mxx where xx is volser, then insert tape cartridge. If it is NT RDY, then press green button READY. If it is blank, then your unit address 590 is emulated drive, not real tape drive. Issue the command D M=DEV(590) Tomas -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen M. Wiegand) writes: I was trying to stay out of this thread because I thought it was a homework or some other such question but having seen some of the responses, I have an urgent need to add my thoughts. When I first saw the question, I was thinking the person wanted to know how to physically mount a tape. After all he didn't ask about JCL or a program or a console command. That got me to thinking about how I learned back in the barely light years. (They didn't have computers in the dark ages). In my very first programming job we had an IBM 370-?? CPU with DOS and Power operating systems. We didn't use tape much in our shop but we had to get a drive because IBM in those days sent everything out on tape. So we had some unit (don't remember the numerals) that had two spindles and a sliding glass door. It definitely had a vacuum load because you could hear it sucking when you readied a tape. Having never been exposed to this hardware in college and having to come in on weekends to load operating system and other IBM software without the presence of an operator, I had to learn how to mount a tape. I remember you had to press a button to open the doors, mount the tape reel on a spindle or hub (whatever you call that thingy in the middle), thread the tape across the heads and through another path. Press another button and the doors closed, the vacuum sucked the tape up the rest of the way and onto the take-up reel and readied the tape at the first readable block, which might be the label if it was a labeled tape. my first programming job was to implement a 360/30 version of 1401 mpio (rather than running 360/30 in 1401 emulation mode). the 1401 was used for unit record-tape frontend for 709; loaded cards on tape, physically moved tape from 1401 drive to 709 drive, 709 ran outputing to new tape, took that tape from 709 drive back to 1401 tape drive and produced whatever print punch output. tapes came in canisters which had to be opened, reel of tape removed. tape drives had full sized swing open doors that you manually opened; you had to mount the reel and then manually feed the tape to the tape-up reel (somewhat similar to the old audio tape open reel). later they had those straps that just wrapped around the reel of tape, instead of canisters that completely enclosed the reel. later still you got those straps that didn't have to be removed, there was new drives that would open the strap a smidgen and feed the tape from the reel. for the 360/30 mpio version i got to design and implement my own monitor, interrupt handlers, device drivers, error recovery, storage allocation, multitasking, etc. i could concurrently handle card to one tape ... while concurrently processing another tape to printer. recent posting with lots of references to MPIO activity: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006b.html#0 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006b.html#1 much later i had implemented a backup/archive system that i deployed on a number of internal systems (originally, mostly used 6250bpi tape). eventually it made it out the door as workstation datasave, which subsequently morphed into adsm and is now called tsm. http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#backup the 360 green card had tape ccws. several years ago, an ios3270 of the green card was done (ios3270 was a full-screen menu app on cms from the 70s, lots of people saw it as the service processor menus on the 3090; the 3090 service processor was a pair of 4361s running a hihgly customized version of vm370 release 6 with all the menu screens in ios3270). the 360/67 blue card also had sense bit definitions for a number of devices. I had added some of that sense information (including tape) to the ios3270 gcard. recently i did a rough cut at translating the ios3270 gcard to html http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/gcard.html mag tape ccw: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/gcard.html#25 sense data http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/gcard.html#17 picture of 2311 7mbyte disk drvies in the forground and a couple 2400 tape drives in the left middle (picture also drum in upper middle behind tape drives): http://ftp.columbia.edu/acis/history/2311.html the whole front of the tape drive was a door that opened. tape reel was mounted on the hub and feed thru the heads and onto the take-up reel. the reels had small finger indented finger depression ... you would wind the tape around the take up reel once (until it had overlapped and friction would keep it from slipping) and then you would spin the take-up reel several times (index finger in the finger depression) ... getting the tape position past the small strip of reflective foil that marked the start of tape. you closed the door and hit rewind/ready. that would spin tape from the take-up reel until the heads sensed the reflective foil (if you didn't get the tape spun manually past the reflective foil, all the tape would come off the take-up reel and you would have to feed it again from
Re: Mount a tape
I think this whole discussion was rather interesting. Jerry asked how to mount a tape, which I thought had to do with physically mounting the tape. Someone or two said that such a basic question shouldn't be answered on this forum. Then it was discussed that even these basic questions should be replied to. Eventually this got off on all sorts of directions. I really think that in this type of question, someone should basically ask for clarification, and then everyone should wait until the person furthur states his question. If not, why waste all of the bandwidth answering maybe this is what he wanted. Eric Bielefeld Sr. Systems Programmer PH Mining Equipment 414-671-7849 Milwaukee, Wisconsin -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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But Erik - we'd all miss the free flow of reminiscences and lateral thinking which a positive misunderstanding of such requests generates. :-) That said, I can see that an occasional reminder to try to imagine the effect of a request for help on the audience might be productive. It was clearly important in this case to know that we were dealing with a FLEX-ES installation and that could have been anticipated. Chris Mason - Original Message - From: Eric Bielefeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, 02 February, 2006 11:10 PM Subject: Re: Mount a tape I think this whole discussion was rather interesting. Jerry asked how to mount a tape, which I thought had to do with physically mounting the tape. Someone or two said that such a basic question shouldn't be answered on this forum. Then it was discussed that even these basic questions should be replied to. Eventually this got off on all sorts of directions. I really think that in this type of question, someone should basically ask for clarification, and then everyone should wait until the person furthur states his question. If not, why waste all of the bandwidth answering maybe this is what he wanted. Eric Bielefeld Sr. Systems Programmer PH Mining Equipment 414-671-7849 Milwaukee, Wisconsin -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Mount a tape
On Feb 2, 2006, at 10:55 AM, Rob Scott wrote: I have never mounted a 3420-type tape. There - I have said it - and I feel much better. If you put me in front of such a device with a nice big 6250bpi tape in my hands - my face will bear the same pitiful puzzled expression often observed by my Dad when he is trying to get me to do DIY or car maintenance. Rob, Sorry go back to kindergarten, do not pass go wash your hands and make sure you wash nehind your ears:) Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Mount a tape
Hi all, Please let me know how to mount a tape and how to verify whether it is mounted or not. Thanks in advance. -Jerry -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Please let me know how to mount a tape and how to verify whether it is mounted or not. This is a pre-newbie question. If you have to ask, you shouldn't be anywhere near a terminal (or a mainframe)! - -teD I’m an enthusiastic proselytiser of the universal panacea I believe in! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Ted, What's that expression used on your side of the pond, Let's cut some slack here? In one installation in which I worked, very occasionally I needed a tape mount. If I hadn't thought to ask locally when I first needed to run a job involving a tape, I would have coded up my JCL in the standard way, submitted that job and would have had it returned with some unintelligible code somewhere which told me nothing. I believe the explanation was that any job requiring a tape mount was caught by some installation exit and rejected - unless there was a JES2 card which caused the job to be held and wrote a message to the operators to tell them a tape mount was required. This was more that 20 years ago now so maybe there's a better way today. Let us assume that I knew there were incredibly helpful newsgroups available where every technical problem can be mulled over in detail and that I hadn't appreciated that the issue was one of practices in the local installation rather than some possible failure of ingenuity in the use of JCL. Perhaps I might have asked this newsgroup rather than my local help desk just as Jerry did. Chris Mason - Original Message - From: Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, 01 February, 2006 1:00 AM Subject: Re: Mount a tape Please let me know how to mount a tape and how to verify whether it is mounted or not. This is a pre-newbie question. If you have to ask, you shouldn't be anywhere near a terminal (or a mainframe)! - -teD I’m an enthusiastic proselytiser of the universal panacea I believe in! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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And you (not being a complete newbie) would have posted your JCL and error messages ... Ken Porowski -Original Message- Chris Mason snip Let us assume that I knew there were incredibly helpful newsgroups available where every technical problem can be mulled over in detail and that I hadn't appreciated that the issue was one of practices in the local installation rather than some possible failure of ingenuity in the use of JCL. Perhaps I might have asked this newsgroup rather than my local help desk just as Jerry did. Chris Mason -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Porowski, Ken Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 10:28 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mount a tape And you (not being a complete newbie) would have posted your JCL and error messages ... Ken Porowski And me, being really nasty, would likely go into reminisces and detail how, in the old days, we had to route the tape out of the reel, through the capstans, down and up the vacuum chambers, and onto the take-up reel. In todays environment, put the tape in the CAP station and let the robot do it. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer UICI Insurance Center Information Technology This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Mount a tape
If you have an answer for this person, say it! What's with questioning him about his place of work? Thanks, Desi de la Garza Systems Programmer Bexar County Information Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 10:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mount a tape Please let me know how to mount a tape and how to verify whether it is mounted or not. This is a pre-newbie question. If you have to ask, you shouldn't be anywhere near a terminal (or a mainframe)! Ted was a bit harsh, but I am curious why you could not go to anyone else in your organization with a question like this before posting to ibm-main? Or is this a homework question (which it suspiciously looks like)? Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America and Farmers Insurance Group mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Mount a tape
Way to tell them, Howi K. Thanks, Desi de la Garza Systems Programmer Bexar County Information Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kok, Howi Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 10:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mount a tape Let us not be senseless and careless dinosaurs. This is one of the reasons we are an endangered species. It is ok and good that he asked. Those of you who have been around a long time should be gracious to teach the newbie, anything about the mainframe. All dinosaurs were once newbie's and didn't know how to mount a tape. Someone was gracious enough to teach us. It is our turn to do the same. It sounds like Jerry doesn't have someone to show him hands-on at this time. Let's start by finding out what you already knew. Do you know the volume serial number of the tape? Do you know which tape drive unit? Do you know which job asked for the tape? Do you know how to use SDSF? Do you have access to the operator or tape console and know how to use it? These are the things that can help answer your question. Howi Kok a.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Mount a tape
I'm going to assume that he needs the MVS Mount command.
It is a console command that usually is coded like this:
M {[/]devnum },VOL=({NL},serial)[,USE={STORAGE}]
{devicetype } {SL} {PUBLIC }
{AL} {PRIVATE}
From the System Commands manual.
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 10:59:36 -0600, Desi de la Garza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Way to tell them, Howi K.
Thanks,
Desi de la Garza
Systems Programmer
Bexar County Information Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Kok, Howi
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 10:47 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Mount a tape
Let us not be senseless and careless dinosaurs. This is one of the
reasons we are an endangered species. It is ok and good that he asked.
Those of you who have been around a long time should be gracious to
teach the newbie, anything about the mainframe. All dinosaurs were once
newbie's and didn't know how to mount a tape. Someone was gracious
enough to teach us. It is our turn to do the same.
It sounds like Jerry doesn't have someone to show him hands-on at this
time. Let's start by finding out what you already knew. Do you know
the volume serial number of the tape? Do you know which tape drive
unit? Do you know which job asked for the tape? Do you know how to use
SDSF? Do you have access to the operator or tape console and know how
to use it? These are the things that can help answer your question.
Howi Kok
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In a message dated 2/1/2006 10:34:32 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: how, in the old days, we had to route the tape out of the reel, through the capstans, down and up the vacuum chambers, and onto the take-up reel. Every see a 'metal' tape? Weighed almost thirty pounds and the more effete operators had to use two hands -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Mount a tape
Matthew,
I dare say you've managed to imagine Jerry's circumstances somewhat better
than the rest of us. Having only recently started dabbling in this newsgroup
I haven't really got my head around the concept of one man (or one woman)
installations with a PC pretending to be the massive mainframe of my feeble
imagination with roomfuls of spinning disks and tapes and blinking lights
everywhere.
Chris Mason
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To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Sent: Wednesday, 01 February, 2006 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: Mount a tape
I'm going to assume that he needs the MVS Mount command.
It is a console command that usually is coded like this:
M {[/]devnum },VOL=({NL},serial)[,USE={STORAGE}]
{devicetype } {SL} {PUBLIC }
{AL} {PRIVATE}
From the System Commands manual.
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 10:59:36 -0600, Desi de la Garza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Way to tell them, Howi K.
Thanks,
Desi de la Garza
Systems Programmer
Bexar County Information Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf
Of Kok, Howi
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 10:47 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Mount a tape
Let us not be senseless and careless dinosaurs. This is one of the
reasons we are an endangered species. It is ok and good that he asked.
Those of you who have been around a long time should be gracious to
teach the newbie, anything about the mainframe. All dinosaurs were once
newbie's and didn't know how to mount a tape. Someone was gracious
enough to teach us. It is our turn to do the same.
It sounds like Jerry doesn't have someone to show him hands-on at this
time. Let's start by finding out what you already knew. Do you know
the volume serial number of the tape? Do you know which tape drive
unit? Do you know which job asked for the tape? Do you know how to use
SDSF? Do you have access to the operator or tape console and know how
to use it? These are the things that can help answer your question.
Howi Kok
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Re: Mount a tape
There are also REAL machines out there that are trying to act like massive mainframes, not just PCs. The MP/3000 is the size of a two drawer filing cabinet, but can have 200+ MIPs(H70). That is a small machine, but not a small system! Chris Mason wrote: Matthew, I dare say you've managed to imagine Jerry's circumstances somewhat better than the rest of us. Having only recently started dabbling in this newsgroup I haven't really got my head around the concept of one man (or one woman) installations with a PC pretending to be the massive mainframe of my feeble imagination with roomfuls of spinning disks and tapes and blinking lights everywhere. Chris Mason -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 11:41:20 -0600, Matthew Stitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to assume that he needs the MVS Mount command. snip I like your imagination, but I doubt that is what he wanted. If he had he probably would know a bit more and said something like: how can I access a tape interactively from TSO, I get an error message that says I have no mount authority or how can I keep a tape from dismounting between jobs etc. I'm sticking to homework question or similar (test?). I get a lot of those on search390.com. They're usually easy to tell because the questions are just s over generalized and sometimes the name is a give away too. The fact that this person posted from yahoo may also be an indication, but it least it sounds like a real name (as opposed to something like [EMAIL PROTECTED]). My guess (I hope I'm proved wrong) is that we'll never see a response from the original poster, so we can all keep guessing at what he really wanted to know. Just in case he really needed to know, my answer might be: By referencing a tape data set in JCL executing a program, or by the program referencing a tape data set via dynamic allocation. The reference could also be from TSO ALLOCATE commands or dynamic allocation in TSO but the user would need TSO MOUNT authority or the request would fail. TSO MOUNT authority comes from SYS1.UADS or your security product (RACF/Top Secret/ACF2). Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America and Farmers Insurance Group mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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What's that expression used on your side of the pond, Let's cut some slack here? I'm sorry, but considering how basic the question was, I thought it was a 'teach me everything about IT' type. Those have been denounced before. I have no trouble helping, but we are not here to teach from the ground up! Do some basic research, first. Then, ask questions. - -teD I’m an enthusiastic proselytiser of the universal panacea I believe in! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Mount a tape
Way to go Bruce. Helping out Jerry has made you a better person no matter how silly the question was. Thanks, Desi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Black Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 1:27 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mount a tape Please let me know how to mount a tape and how to verify whether it is mounted or not. Jerry, in all the replies, some of them sort of testy, no one has actually responded to you, so let me try. You did ask a very broad question with no details so I can't be very specific. This does sound like a homework question or an interview question. I assume your environment is the IBM z/OS operating system (or one of its predecessors). In a batch job, you include a DD statement calling for a tape. The details depend on your installation but as a general example //ddname DD DSN=MY.TAPE.DATASET,UNIT=TAPE,DISP=(,CATLG) will mount a scratch (output) tape. When your program issues an OPEN, OPEN will verify that the tape is mounted and ready. If you are writing in assembler, you can use dynamic allocation (SVC 99) to dynamically mount and input or output tape. DYNALLOC will verify that the tape is mounted before it returns to you. -- Bruce A. Black Senior Software Developer for FDR Innovation Data Processing 973-890-7300 personal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] sales info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tech support: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.innovationdp.fdr.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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There is still a possibility that Bruce did not help him. If he is running Hercules under Linux, he may have wanted to know how to a) access an AWSTAPE format tape image or b) how to issue a Linux mount command to access a 3480/3490/etc cartridge. Desi de la Garza wrote: Way to go Bruce. Helping out Jerry has made you a better person no matter how silly the question was. Thanks, Desi -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Way to go Bruce. Helping out Jerry has made you a better person no matter how silly the question was. Not possible, I'm already perfect Gr -- Bruce A. Black Senior Software Developer for FDR Innovation Data Processing 973-890-7300 personal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] sales info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tech support: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.innovationdp.fdr.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Ted was a bit harsh I appologise for the harshness, but not the sentiment. I truly believe you should do your homework, post your examples, explain what you are trying to accomplish, etc. This is not M/F-101 - -teD I’m an enthusiastic proselytiser of the universal panacea I believe in! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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And humble too g,d,r This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose. Bruce Black bblack @FDRINNOVATION.COM Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN 02/01/2006 04:01 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc: Subject:Re: Mount a tape Way to go Bruce. Helping out Jerry has made you a better person no matter how silly the question was. Not possible, I'm already perfect Gr -- Bruce A. Black Senior Software Developer for FDR Innovation Data Processing 973-890-7300 personal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] sales info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tech support: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.innovationdp.fdr.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Mount a tape
On Feb 1, 2006, at 3:01 PM, Bruce Black wrote: Way to go Bruce. Helping out Jerry has made you a better person no matter how silly the question was. Are we up for the Minisitry of silly mounts? :) Ed Not possible, I'm already perfect Gr -- Bruce A. Black Senior Software Developer for FDR Innovation Data Processing 973-890-7300 personal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] sales info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tech support: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.innovationdp.fdr.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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No I think the question then would have been how do I mount a dead parrot? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: 02 February 2006 10:41 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mount a tape Are we up for the Minisitry of silly mounts? :) Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Mount a tape
Hello Jerry, It is an interesting question which has opened you up to many comments. For background you could go look in the ABCs of z/OS System Programming Volume 1 SG24-6981 which can be found at http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/ Volume mounts can be done manually or the system can automatically do it for you. Manual mounts are done via Console Operator command. Automatic mounts are performed when allocation requires a volume not currently mounted. After finding a device on which to mount a volume the system issues messages via the Console requesting Operators to locate and physically load the volume, and then press the READY switch. These days Operators (aka. tape monkeys) are replaced by tape libraries (real and virtual). TSO users are restricted from allocating non-mounted devices unless they have MOUNT authority. (search the archives for some discussions on this earlier this year). Other tasks (batch jobs or started tasks) can request allocation of tapes. JCL DD cards can specify a datasetname cataloged on tape. DISP=SHR|MOD|OLD, preferably DISP=OLD. Or they can also datasetname, volume serial and unit type if the dataset is not cataloged. For DISP=NEW , the system will request a SCRATCH tape. This is an unused tape. The Operator or Tape Library (SILO etc) will know where to find an unused SCRATCH tape. You need to consult the local site to find out what type of tape drives are available. They could be model numbers, eg UNIT=3490, or an esoteric name, eg UNIT=TAPE Your system may be emulation based ( FLEX-ES or Hercules ) in which case you need to understand how the emulation recognises tapes (may be FAKETAPE). to recap: for existing tape //INPUT DD DISP=OLD,DSN=TAPE.DATASET.NAME for new tape //OUTPUT DD DISP=(NEW,CATLG), // UNIT=3480, // LABEL=(1,SL), // DSN=TAPE.DATASET.NAME (the label value indicates which file on the tape is your dataset). For verification: The D U,VOL=xx operator command will display the volume status if it is mounted.xx is the volume serial name. The D U,,,,1 operator command will display the status of the device. is the device number. For system requested mounts the device number is part of the message. On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 09:06:12 -0600, Jerry Ragland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Please let me know how to mount a tape and how to verify whether it is mounted or not. Thanks in advance. -Jerry -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
