New System Build

[Mark Wilson]

List,

This question relates to migrating from a Flex server with no external tape
or external disk to a new z9 + external DS6000 disk. We have no tape units
installed on the z9 and zVM is not installed the flex box.

We wish to migrate the zOS systems and data currently in use to the new z9
environment.

For simplicity sake imagine it is a one pack zOS system we need to move;
once we can ipl this we are in business to do more. 

How might you do this, our thinking went like: 

1. Use new z/OS starter system - not possible since we have no external tape
to restore it from

2. Connect new server to the existing disk or old server to the new disk
systems - not possible, the old system has only internal disk and the new
disk is FICON and cannot be connected to the old processor. 

So this leaves us with 

3. Load and customise zVM via the z9 HMC using DVD's thus having a zVM and
CMS environment and somehow "dump" the old system and FTP it across to the
new zVM & CMS system running on the z9 

This is where the questions arise and looking for some help or ideas as to
how to make this work or if not possible. 

We see the steps as:

We believe we can build a Stand Alone (SA) DFDSS pgm in card image
form (BUILDSA) on the old system and FTP this across to a CMS user. 
This user should be able to receive this card image as a CMS file
and "punch" it to the virtual reader. 
We could then "IPL" from the reader on this zVM virtual machine 
This then creates a IPL'd SA DFDSS environment 

This last and final part is the bit we are struggling with. We can create a
DFDSS full volume dump of the OnePak System to DISK and FTP it to the
zVM/CMS system on the z9.

What I am struggling with is how to get the as input to the DFDSS SA program
from the zVM/CMS environment?

Is this a complete non starter as a process OR if possible; how would it be
done?

Any details of the process and commands that should be used to achieve this
would be well appreciated.
 
Any help gratefully received.

Regards

Mark

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Re: New System Build

[McKown, John]

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fagen
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:18 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: New System Build
> 
> 
> On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:17:16 -, Mark Wilson wrote:
> 
> -snip-
> >This question relates to migrating from a Flex server with 
> no external tape
> >or external disk to a new z9 + external DS6000 disk. We have 
> no tape units
> >installed on the z9 and zVM is not installed the flex box.
> >
> >We wish to migrate the zOS systems and data currently in use 
> to the new z9
> >environment.
> -snip-
> 
> Have you investigated the FLEXCUB functionality?  It may 
> enable you to 
> connect the internal disk in the FLEX-ES server to your z9.
> 
> Scott Fagen
> Enterprise Systems Management

That is a good idea! It would also allow them to access any AWS or
FakeTape(tm) virtual tape volumes that they may have.

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Re: New System Build

[Scott Fagen]

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:17:16 -, Mark Wilson wrote:

-snip-
>This question relates to migrating from a Flex server with no external tape
>or external disk to a new z9 + external DS6000 disk. We have no tape units
>installed on the z9 and zVM is not installed the flex box.
>
>We wish to migrate the zOS systems and data currently in use to the new z9
>environment.
-snip-

Have you investigated the FLEXCUB functionality?  It may enable you to 
connect the internal disk in the FLEX-ES server to your z9.

Scott Fagen
Enterprise Systems Management

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Re: New System Build

[Dave Kopischke]

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 10:18:14 -0600, Scott Fagen wrote:

>On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:17:16 -, Mark Wilson wrote:
>
>-snip-
>>This question relates to migrating from a Flex server with no external tape
>>or external disk to a new z9 + external DS6000 disk. We have no tape units
>>installed on the z9 and zVM is not installed the flex box.
>>
>>We wish to migrate the zOS systems and data currently in use to the new 
z9
>>environment.
>-snip-
>
>Have you investigated the FLEXCUB functionality?  It may enable you to
>connect the internal disk in the FLEX-ES server to your z9.
>
>Scott Fagen
>Enterprise Systems Management
>

Or maybe take a look at Shai's MFNetDisk product to see if you can use that 
for your one-time migration ??? I haven't looked at it at all, but from what 
I've 
seen implied in his IBM-MAIN posts, it might offer you another cheap option.

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Re: New System Build

[Sebastian Welton]

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:17:16 -, Mark Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>List,
>
>This question relates to migrating from a Flex server with no external tape
>or external disk to a new z9 + external DS6000 disk. We have no tape units
>installed on the z9 and zVM is not installed the flex box.
>
>We wish to migrate the zOS systems and data currently in use to the new z9
>environment.
>
>For simplicity sake imagine it is a one pack zOS system we need to move;
>once we can ipl this we are in business to do more.
>
>How might you do this, our thinking went like:
>
>1. Use new z/OS starter system - not possible since we have no external tape
>to restore it from

Well I've assisted in doing it this way so there are no problems but you
have no tape drive which leaves me with the question, what happens when you
want to upgrade the existing zOS system, apply service (if not via
electronic download, ala some ISV stuff) or even install new ISV software?
Backups?

>
>2. Connect new server to the existing disk or old server to the new disk
>systems - not possible, the old system has only internal disk and the new
>disk is FICON and cannot be connected to the old processor.
>

As mentioned before, the FLEXCUB is an option which is being used by other
sites having gone this route. Then your customer can continue to use the
xSeries box as a disk/tape (FakeTape) storage device (i.e. as a VTS for
backups using AFLIB as well.) You'll need an ESCON card and some slight
reconfiguration but this might make life easier.

Seb

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Re: New System Build

[Alan Altmark]

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:17:16 -, Mark Wilson 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>This is where the questions arise and looking for some help or ideas as to
>how to make this work or if not possible.
>
>We see the steps as:
>
>   We believe we can build a Stand Alone (SA) DFDSS pgm in card 
image
>form (BUILDSA) on the old system and FTP this across to a CMS user.
>   This user should be able to receive this card image as a CMS file
>and "punch" it to the virtual reader.
>   We could then "IPL" from the reader on this zVM virtual machine
>   This then creates a IPL'd SA DFDSS environment
>
>This last and final part is the bit we are struggling with. We can create a
>DFDSS full volume dump of the OnePak System to DISK and FTP it to the
>zVM/CMS system on the z9.
>
>What I am struggling with is how to get the as input to the DFDSS SA 
program
>from the zVM/CMS environment?

a) There is no DFDSS SA program in CMS. 
b) You cannot IPL something FTP'd to a VM user's RDR.  The spool file is in 
NETDATA format.

Easiest is to
1) Dump your system to "tape" in awstape format on your Flex system
2) FTP the awstape file to CMS
3) Go get the CMS Pipelines Runtime Distribution (not the version that comes 
with z/VM)
4) PIPE < YOUR AWSTAPE | deblock awstape | tape   to write it to a real tape 
drive.
5) Do the same thing with your ASWTAPE file that has DFDSS SA on it.
6) IPL the tape you just created.  Restore the other tape to a disk volume.
7) IPL the disk volume

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM

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Re: New System Build

[Alan Altmark]

Correction: You don't need to download a new level of CMS Pipelines.  The 
version that comes with z/VM includes the "deblock awstape" stage, though it 
is not a supported function.  PIPE AHELP DEBLOCK will get you more info.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM

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Re: New System Build

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 01/03/2008
   at 12:36 AM, Alan Altmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>b) You cannot IPL something FTP'd to a VM user's RDR.  

Not in one step, but it's still easy.

>The spool file is in  NETDATA format.

So you do a RECEIVE, copy it to a virtual punch and IPL.

>4) PIPE < YOUR AWSTAPE | deblock awstape | tape   to write it to a real
>tape  drive.

As I understand it, he doesn't have a real tape drive.
 
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New System Build (Part II)

[Mark Wilson]

All,

 

Thanks for the suggestions regarding FlexCUB and MFNetDisk; but this does
not answer my original question.

 

If I have an IPL'd Stand Alone system running on the New z9 and zVM/CMS is
installed; can I take a Full volume dump on zOS; ftp it to zVM/CMS; save the
file and then use this file as input to the Stand Alone Restore process? If
so how?

 

When I ftp the sequential dataset to zVM/CMS that contains the DFDSS dump, I
know that I use the FTP STRUCTURE keyword, do I need to consider any other
parameters?

 

What format should the file be on zVM/CMS?

 

How do I point the Stand Alone Restore process at the file that (hopefully)
now exists in zVM/CMS?

 

Regards

 

Mark

 


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Re: New System Build (Part II)

[Mike Bell]

Check the archives - long discussion on FTP of DFDSS DUMP datasets.
The net I remember was
DFDSS DUMP to disk blksize=32760
TERSE
FTP
TERSE unpack
FTP RESTORE

Mike

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Re: New System Build (Part II)

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 12/28/2007
   at 07:31 AM, Mark Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>If I have an IPL'd Stand Alone system running on the New z9 and zVM/CMS
>is installed; can I take a Full volume dump on zOS; ftp it to zVM/CMS;
>save the file and then use this file as input to the Stand Alone Restore
>process? If so how?

Does DFSMS DSS have an option for card-image output? Does zVM have an
option for virtual tape drives? Is there a version of DFSMS DSS that runs
under CMS? If the answer to all three is no, then I don't see how to do it
without a physical link or zVM on the old system.
 
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Re: New System Build (Part II)

[Alan Altmark]

On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 10:21:15 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)  wrote:
>>4) PIPE < YOUR AWSTAPE | deblock awstape | tape   to write it to a real
>>tape  drive.
>
>As I understand it, he doesn't have a real tape drive.

You're right.  Mark said he didn't have a tape drive on his z9.  My bad.  (I am 
mystified by tapeless mainframes.  How does one take a stand-alone dump?  
How do you get a large dump to the Support Center?)

I'd get FLEX-CUB or something to attach to my external disks.

While it may be possible to get the file that contains the disk volume over 
onto 
the VM system, I don't think there's any CMS Pipelines support for it.  And I 
don't know if the FLEX folks document the format of the disk files the way they 
do for AWSTAPE.

Alan Altmark
IBM

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Re: New System Build (Part II)

[Tom Marchant]

On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 16:23:23 -0600, Alan Altmark wrote:
>
>  (I am
>mystified by tapeless mainframes.  How does one take a stand-alone dump?

DASD

>How do you get a large dump to the Support Center?)

FTP

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Re: New System Build (Part II)

[Alan Altmark]

On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 16:49:24 -0600, Tom Marchant  wrote:

>On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 16:23:23 -0600, Alan Altmark wrote:
>>
>>  (I am
>>mystified by tapeless mainframes.  How does one take a stand-alone 
dump?
>
>DASD

Perhaps in z/OS, but in z/VM, a stand-alone dump is written to tape, not 
dasd.  A CP Hard, soft, and snap dumps are written to spool and then either 
SPXTAPE DUMPed to tape or DUMPLOADed onto a CMS disk and FTPed.  It is, 
in theory, with today's larger machines, possible to create a dump that the 
CMS file system cannot hold.  That leaves you with SPXTAPE DUMP as your 
only alternative.

I really cannot stress enough that a z/VM system should have a tape drive 
available to it.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM

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Re: New System Build (Part II)

[Mike Baldwin]

On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 00:20:24 -0600, Alan Altmark 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I really cannot stress enough that a z/VM system should have a tape drive
>available to it.
>
>Alan Altmark
>z/VM Development
>IBM

Hi Alan,

Could you stress it enough such that z/VM would issue a message when a 
tape drive is *not* available to it?  (preferably early enough that one could 
be 
acquired before actually needing it to write ;-) )

(sorry, no requirement from me since I only *use* z/VM these days, not 
support it; and certainly would provide it with a tape drive!)

Regards,
Mike Baldwin
Cartagena Software Ltd.
www.cartagena.com

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Re: New System Build (Part II)

[Alan Altmark]

On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 11:30:48 -0600, Mike Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>Could you stress it enough such that z/VM would issue a message when a
>tape drive is *not* available to it?  (preferably early enough that one could 
be
>acquired before actually needing it to write ;-) )

LOL.

HCP666R NO TAPE DRIVE DETECTED DURING IPL
HCP666R CONTINUE WITH RISKY BEHAVIOR? (ABORT,RETRY,IGNORE)

Alan

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Re: New System Build (Part II)

[Chase, John]

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Alan Altmark
> 
> On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 11:30:48 -0600, Mike Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >Could you stress it enough such that z/VM would issue a message when
a 
> >tape drive is *not* available to it?  (preferably early enough that
one 
> >could be acquired before actually needing it to write ;-) )
> 
> LOL.
> 
> HCP666R NO TAPE DRIVE DETECTED DURING IPL HCP666R CONTINUE 
> WITH RISKY BEHAVIOR? (ABORT,RETRY,IGNORE)

"KEYBOARD NOT FOUND. PRESS F1 TO CONTINUE."

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Re: New System Build - Support IPL able 3390 from VM.

[Shai Hess]

HI,

The subject of New System build bring me to think about IPL able MFNetDisk 
PC file mirror.

In MVS there is no problem because everyone can mirror PC File to real device 
and all what MFNetDisk requires is access to MVS and to real 3390 disk and 
that he has.

In the case of "New System build" (See messages in this forum), The user 
want to copy real 3390 to another real 3390 while he can not have access 
from VM to MVS.

The user like to IPL the MVS 3390 disk under VM.

In MVS I create a stand alone program which can read the PC File from PC and 
write it to real 3390 without the involvement of MFNetDisk. That is cool but 
not so importence in MVS since the access to the real device is fact.

I ask the user which have the problem if he like me to create a program in VM 
under CMS which access the PC File and write the data to real 3390 under 
VM/CMS (NO MVS).  This will make the PC File IPL able after running the small 
software in VM but of course it requires VM.

Please let me know before I start to code this feature if this feature is 
impotence to all of us as MVS users.

Thanks,
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Re: New System Build (Part II) - Shai's PC Disk on Flex???

[Van Dalsen, Herbie]

What about Shai's PC DISK, is it possible to run his programs on flex,
and then IPL the z System from it ?


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Sent: 02 Januarie 2008 10:11 nm
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Subject: Re: New System Build (Part II)

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 12/28/2007
   at 07:31 AM, Mark Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>If I have an IPL'd Stand Alone system running on the New z9 and zVM/CMS
>is installed; can I take a Full volume dump on zOS; ftp it to zVM/CMS;
>save the file and then use this file as input to the Stand Alone
Restore
>process? If so how?

Does DFSMS DSS have an option for card-image output? Does zVM have an
option for virtual tape drives? Is there a version of DFSMS DSS that
runs
under CMS? If the answer to all three is no, then I don't see how to do
it
without a physical link or zVM on the old system.
 
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Re: New System Build (Part II) - Shai's PC Disk on Flex???

[Shai Hess]

You can not IPL MFNetDisk PC File with my product because MVS MFNetDisk 
must run in MVS to be able to have 3390 emulation with a PC file.

But using my product you can create mirror (using ASync mode) from one real 
3390 to another real 3390 and then IPL from the another real 3390.

My product can mirror real 3390 even if they do not have hardware 
connection (only TCP connection is required).

Thanks,
Shai 

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Re: New System Build (Part II) - Shai's PC Disk on Flex???

[shai hess]

HI,

 I have client in Israel who use the free product for mirroring  the Flex
disks.

 Thanks,
 Shai


On 1/3/08, shai hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Yes! Good luck.
>
> Shai
>
>
>  On 1/3/08, Doc Farmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Would it work on a FLEX system if your only activity is backup/recovery
> > of
> > "DASD" (no IPL involved)?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf
> > Of Shai Hess
> > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 13:58
> > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: New System Build (Part II) - Shai's PC Disk on Flex???
> >
> > You can not IPL MFNetDisk PC File with my product because MVS MFNetDisk
> > must run in MVS to be able to have 3390 emulation with a PC file.
> >
> > But using my product you can create mirror (using ASync mode) from one
> > real
> > 3390 to another real 3390 and then IPL from the another real 3390.
> >
> > My product can mirror real 3390 even if they do not have hardware
> > connection (only TCP connection is required).
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Shai
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Re: New System Build (Part II) - Shai's PC Disk on Flex???

[Doc Farmer]

Would it work on a FLEX system if your only activity is backup/recovery of
"DASD" (no IPL involved)?

-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: New System Build (Part II) - Shai's PC Disk on Flex???

You can not IPL MFNetDisk PC File with my product because MVS MFNetDisk 
must run in MVS to be able to have 3390 emulation with a PC file.

But using my product you can create mirror (using ASync mode) from one real 
3390 to another real 3390 and then IPL from the another real 3390.

My product can mirror real 3390 even if they do not have hardware 
connection (only TCP connection is required).

Thanks,
Shai 

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Re: New System Build (Part II) - Shai's PC Disk on Flex???

[shai hess]

Yes! Good luck.

Shai


On 1/3/08, Doc Farmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Would it work on a FLEX system if your only activity is backup/recovery of
> "DASD" (no IPL involved)?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf
> Of Shai Hess
> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 13:58
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: New System Build (Part II) - Shai's PC Disk on Flex???
>
> You can not IPL MFNetDisk PC File with my product because MVS MFNetDisk
> must run in MVS to be able to have 3390 emulation with a PC file.
>
> But using my product you can create mirror (using ASync mode) from one
> real
> 3390 to another real 3390 and then IPL from the another real 3390.
>
> My product can mirror real 3390 even if they do not have hardware
> connection (only TCP connection is required).
>
> Thanks,
> Shai
>
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