Re: Non-cancelable task - tso
jagadishan perumal wrote: I tried Purging the tso but it was not coming down. The commands used to stop tso was : 1) stop tso - No luck 2) force tso,arm - No luck 3) force tso,arm,a=ASID - No luck I even tried looking for any outstanding message in console but there were no outstanding messages at all. Could anyone please guide me in this. After seeing all those replies... Wait! You want to CANCEL the TSO (The TCAS one?) address space? Are there any TSO session(s) there? What are they doing? Waiting for something? What is D R,R showing? D GRS,C? Verify D A,TSO with D A,L and look for zeroes onder TS USERS. If so, then something is then wrong with TSO (TCAS address space.) Also, what is D NET,MAJNODES telling you about the top most PU (Correct term?) for TSO? Last thing, from where are you issuing those commands? Perhaps RACF is blocking you at all. Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Non-cancelable task - tso
Hi, D R,R = No outstanding messages, D TS,L - zero under TS USERS D NET,MAJNODES - vtam not active , but when i do /D A,VTAM = vtam address space is still active. I am issuing all this commands from console. Regards, Jags On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote: jagadishan perumal wrote: I tried Purging the tso but it was not coming down. The commands used to stop tso was : 1) stop tso - No luck 2) force tso,arm - No luck 3) force tso,arm,a=ASID - No luck I even tried looking for any outstanding message in console but there were no outstanding messages at all. Could anyone please guide me in this. After seeing all those replies... Wait! You want to CANCEL the TSO (The TCAS one?) address space? Are there any TSO session(s) there? What are they doing? Waiting for something? What is D R,R showing? D GRS,C? Verify D A,TSO with D A,L and look for zeroes onder TS USERS. If so, then something is then wrong with TSO (TCAS address space.) Also, what is D NET,MAJNODES telling you about the top most PU (Correct term?) for TSO? Last thing, from where are you issuing those commands? Perhaps RACF is blocking you at all. Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Non-cancelable task - tso
jagadishan perumal wrote: 3) force tso,arm,a=ASID - No luck Do D A,TSO and check that you correctly used A=asid nr in the FORCE command. As documented, take note that issuing a FORCE command may result in an IPL. Also check your identifier of TSO. Perhaps this example shows you the identifier TCAS of the task TSO: FORCE TSO.TCAS,ARM,A=asid Perhaps if you could be kind to state WHY you want to stop it? Perhaps there is something we all missed... Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Non-cancelable task - tso
Hi, Perhaps if you could be kind to state WHY you want to stop it? Perhaps there is something we all missed... . During IPL it happened. it was just part of IPL and it was our sandbox region. On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote: jagadishan perumal wrote: 3) force tso,arm,a=ASID - No luck Do D A,TSO and check that you correctly used A=asid nr in the FORCE command. As documented, take note that issuing a FORCE command may result in an IPL. Also check your identifier of TSO. Perhaps this example shows you the identifier TCAS of the task TSO: FORCE TSO.TCAS,ARM,A=asid Perhaps if you could be kind to state WHY you want to stop it? Perhaps there is something we all missed... Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Non-cancelable task - tso
Hi, Thanks all for your advises. TSO subsystem came down successfully. Regards, Jags On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:19 PM, jagadishan perumal jagadish...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Perhaps if you could be kind to state WHY you want to stop it? Perhaps there is something we all missed... . During IPL it happened. it was just part of IPL and it was our sandbox region. On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote: jagadishan perumal wrote: 3) force tso,arm,a=ASID - No luck Do D A,TSO and check that you correctly used A=asid nr in the FORCE command. As documented, take note that issuing a FORCE command may result in an IPL. Also check your identifier of TSO. Perhaps this example shows you the identifier TCAS of the task TSO: FORCE TSO.TCAS,ARM,A=asid Perhaps if you could be kind to state WHY you want to stop it? Perhaps there is something we all missed... Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Non-cancelable task - tso
Can you please explain. Which command at last worked out to bring down TSO. Regards Saurabh On 6/13/2011 1:10 PM, jagadishan perumal wrote: Hi, Thanks all for your advises. TSO subsystem came down successfully. Regards, Jags On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:19 PM, jagadishan perumal jagadish...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Perhaps if you could be kind to state WHY you want to stop it? Perhaps there is something we all missed... . During IPL it happened. it was just part of IPL and it was our sandbox region. On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote: jagadishan perumal wrote: 3) force tso,arm,a=ASID - No luck Do D A,TSO and check that you correctly used A=asid nr in the FORCE command. As documented, take note that issuing a FORCE command may result in an IPL. Also check your identifier of TSO. Perhaps this example shows you the identifier TCAS of the task TSO: FORCE TSO.TCAS,ARM,A=asid Perhaps if you could be kind to state WHY you want to stop it? Perhaps there is something we all missed... Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Non-cancelable task - tso
Thanks. Good to see that. Regards Saurabh On 6/13/2011 1:57 PM, jagadishan perumal wrote: Hi saurabh, I bought down the address space : STOP TN3270 and after that I purged the TSO. Perhaps it was your suggestion. Regards, Jags On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 1:54 PM, saurabh khandelwal saurabh.khandel...@oracle.com mailto:saurabh.khandel...@oracle.com wrote: Can you please explain. Which command at last worked out to bring down TSO. Regards Saurabh On 6/13/2011 1:10 PM, jagadishan perumal wrote: Hi, Thanks all for your advises. TSO subsystem came down successfully. Regards, Jags On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:19 PM, jagadishan perumal jagadish...@gmail.com mailto:jagadish...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Perhaps if you could be kind to state WHY you want to stop it? Perhaps there is something we all missed... . During IPL it happened. it was just part of IPL and it was our sandbox region. On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za mailto:elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote: jagadishan perumal wrote: 3) force tso,arm,a=ASID - No luck Do D A,TSO and check that you correctly used A=asid nr in the FORCE command. As documented, take note that issuing a FORCE command may result in an IPL. Also check your identifier of TSO. Perhaps this example shows you the identifier TCAS of the task TSO: FORCE TSO.TCAS,ARM,A=asid Perhaps if you could be kind to state WHY you want to stop it? Perhaps there is something we all missed... Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu mailto:lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu mailto:lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Non-cancelable task - tso
I tried Purging the tso but it was not coming down. The commands used to stop tso was : 1) stop tso - No luck 2) force tso,arm - No luck 3) force tso,arm,a=ASID - No luck I even tried looking for any outstanding message in console but there were no outstanding messages at all. Could anyone please guide me in this. Regards, Jags Jags, I think the correct command to shutdown TSO is F TSO,SIC or F TSO,FTSOP (Force Stop). This is documented in the MVS Commands manual under the MODIFY TSO/VTAM section. Rarely have I ever seen TSO cancelled or forced from the system. Only MODIFY'd out. TSO can be shutdown or restarted any number of times after an IPL. Why were you shutting it down? Perhaps there as a WTOR you needed to respond to Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Non-cancelable task - tso
@Lizette : WTOR was FSTOP with reply number, but even after that it didnt go down. I purged TN3270 and after that TSO was purgeable. Regards, Jags On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.comwrote: I tried Purging the tso but it was not coming down. The commands used to stop tso was : 1) stop tso - No luck 2) force tso,arm - No luck 3) force tso,arm,a=ASID - No luck I even tried looking for any outstanding message in console but there were no outstanding messages at all. Could anyone please guide me in this. Regards, Jags Jags, I think the correct command to shutdown TSO is F TSO,SIC or F TSO,FTSOP (Force Stop). This is documented in the MVS Commands manual under the MODIFY TSO/VTAM section. Rarely have I ever seen TSO cancelled or forced from the system. Only MODIFY'd out. TSO can be shutdown or restarted any number of times after an IPL. Why were you shutting it down? Perhaps there as a WTOR you needed to respond to Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Non-cancelable task - tso
jagadishan perumal wrote: I purged TN3270 and after that TSO was purgeable. Last question, I'm just curious, if you don't mind, please: What did that Telnet server (or its TSO users using it) does that it was preventing TSO to be purged? Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Non-cancelable task - tso
It isnt clear to me what TSO was executing at the time. Was th Jags, It isnt clear to me what TSO was executing at the time. Was there a program in TSO executing or was someone loggged onto TSO ...? What are all the circumstances surrounding the shutdown or attempted shutdown ? Scott J Ford From: jagadishan perumal jagadish...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Mon, June 13, 2011 8:48:34 AM Subject: Re: Non-cancelable task - tso @Lizette : WTOR was FSTOP with reply number, but even after that it didnt go down. I purged TN3270 and after that TSO was purgeable. Regards, Jags On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.comwrote: I tried Purging the tso but it was not coming down. The commands used to stop tso was : 1) stop tso - No luck 2) force tso,arm - No luck 3) force tso,arm,a=ASID - No luck I even tried looking for any outstanding message in console but there were no outstanding messages at all. Could anyone please guide me in this. Regards, Jags Jags, I think the correct command to shutdown TSO is F TSO,SIC or F TSO,FTSOP (Force Stop). This is documented in the MVS Commands manual under the MODIFY TSO/VTAM section. Rarely have I ever seen TSO cancelled or forced from the system. Only MODIFY'd out. TSO can be shutdown or restarted any number of times after an IPL. Why were you shutting it down? Perhaps there as a WTOR you needed to respond to Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Non-cancelable task - tso
one tso Id which was not cancelled properly. . On 6/13/11, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote: It isnt clear to me what TSO was executing at the time. Was th Jags, It isnt clear to me what TSO was executing at the time. Was there a program in TSO executing or was someone loggged onto TSO ...? What are all the circumstances surrounding the shutdown or attempted shutdown ? Scott J Ford From: jagadishan perumal jagadish...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Mon, June 13, 2011 8:48:34 AM Subject: Re: Non-cancelable task - tso @Lizette : WTOR was FSTOP with reply number, but even after that it didnt go down. I purged TN3270 and after that TSO was purgeable. Regards, Jags On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.comwrote: I tried Purging the tso but it was not coming down. The commands used to stop tso was : 1) stop tso - No luck 2) force tso,arm - No luck 3) force tso,arm,a=ASID - No luck I even tried looking for any outstanding message in console but there were no outstanding messages at all. Could anyone please guide me in this. Regards, Jags Jags, I think the correct command to shutdown TSO is F TSO,SIC or F TSO,FTSOP (Force Stop). This is documented in the MVS Commands manual under the MODIFY TSO/VTAM section. Rarely have I ever seen TSO cancelled or forced from the system. Only MODIFY'd out. TSO can be shutdown or restarted any number of times after an IPL. Why were you shutting it down? Perhaps there as a WTOR you needed to respond to Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Regards, Jagadishan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Non-cancelable task - tso
That indicates there was probably a TSO session in the logging on status (waiting for user id). Those would show under the Starting for address space name. Bringing down the TN3270e server would break those connections and stop the Starting address spaces. On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 06:36:13 -0700, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote: It isnt clear to me what TSO was executing at the time. Was th Jags, It isnt clear to me what TSO was executing at the time. Was there a program in TSO executing or was someone loggged onto TSO ...? What are all the circumstances surrounding the shutdown or attempted shutdown ? Scott J Ford From: jagadishan perumal jagadish...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Mon, June 13, 2011 8:48:34 AM Subject: Re: Non-cancelable task - tso @Lizette : WTOR was FSTOP with reply number, but even after that it didnt go down. I purged TN3270 and after that TSO was purgeable. Regards, Jags On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.comwrote: I tried Purging the tso but it was not coming down. The commands used to stop tso was : 1) stop tso - No luck 2) force tso,arm - No luck 3) force tso,arm,a=ASID - No luck I even tried looking for any outstanding message in console but there were no outstanding messages at all. Could anyone please guide me in this. Regards, Jags Jags, I think the correct command to shutdown TSO is F TSO,SIC or F TSO,FTSOP (Force Stop). This is documented in the MVS Commands manual under the MODIFY TSO/VTAM section. Rarely have I ever seen TSO cancelled or forced from the system. Only MODIFY'd out. TSO can be shutdown or restarted any number of times after an IPL. Why were you shutting it down? Perhaps there as a WTOR you needed to respond to Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Non-cancelable task - tso
if you did a 'D R,L' did it show a replid outstanding if so L Jags, if you did a 'D R,L' did it show a replid outstanding if so Lizette has mentioned the correct modify command to use to shut it down, btw what version of z/OS ??? Scott J Ford From: jagadishan perumal jagadish...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Mon, June 13, 2011 11:00:11 AM Subject: Re: Non-cancelable task - tso one tso Id which was not cancelled properly. . On 6/13/11, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote: It isnt clear to me what TSO was executing at the time. Was th Jags, It isnt clear to me what TSO was executing at the time. Was there a program in TSO executing or was someone loggged onto TSO ...? What are all the circumstances surrounding the shutdown or attempted shutdown ? Scott J Ford From: jagadishan perumal jagadish...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Mon, June 13, 2011 8:48:34 AM Subject: Re: Non-cancelable task - tso @Lizette : WTOR was FSTOP with reply number, but even after that it didnt go down. I purged TN3270 and after that TSO was purgeable. Regards, Jags On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.comwrote: I tried Purging the tso but it was not coming down. The commands used to stop tso was : 1) stop tso - No luck 2) force tso,arm - No luck 3) force tso,arm,a=ASID - No luck I even tried looking for any outstanding message in console but there were no outstanding messages at all. Could anyone please guide me in this. Regards, Jags Jags, I think the correct command to shutdown TSO is F TSO,SIC or F TSO,FTSOP (Force Stop). This is documented in the MVS Commands manual under the MODIFY TSO/VTAM section. Rarely have I ever seen TSO cancelled or forced from the system. Only MODIFY'd out. TSO can be shutdown or restarted any number of times after an IPL. Why were you shutting it down? Perhaps there as a WTOR you needed to respond to Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Regards, Jagadishan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Non-cancelable task - tso
Also did you try a 'C U=id ' ... Scott J Jags, Also did you try a 'C U=id ' ... Scott J Ford From: Matthew Stitt mathwst...@bellsouth.net To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Mon, June 13, 2011 11:42:02 AM Subject: Re: Non-cancelable task - tso That indicates there was probably a TSO session in the logging on status (waiting for user id). Those would show under the Starting for address space name. Bringing down the TN3270e server would break those connections and stop the Starting address spaces. On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 06:36:13 -0700, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote: It isnt clear to me what TSO was executing at the time. Was th Jags, It isnt clear to me what TSO was executing at the time. Was there a program in TSO executing or was someone loggged onto TSO ...? What are all the circumstances surrounding the shutdown or attempted shutdown ? Scott J Ford From: jagadishan perumal jagadish...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Mon, June 13, 2011 8:48:34 AM Subject: Re: Non-cancelable task - tso @Lizette : WTOR was FSTOP with reply number, but even after that it didnt go down. I purged TN3270 and after that TSO was purgeable. Regards, Jags On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.comwrote: I tried Purging the tso but it was not coming down. The commands used to stop tso was : 1) stop tso - No luck 2) force tso,arm - No luck 3) force tso,arm,a=ASID - No luck I even tried looking for any outstanding message in console but there were no outstanding messages at all. Could anyone please guide me in this. Regards, Jags Jags, I think the correct command to shutdown TSO is F TSO,SIC or F TSO,FTSOP (Force Stop). This is documented in the MVS Commands manual under the MODIFY TSO/VTAM section. Rarely have I ever seen TSO cancelled or forced from the system. Only MODIFY'd out. TSO can be shutdown or restarted any number of times after an IPL. Why were you shutting it down? Perhaps there as a WTOR you needed to respond to Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Non-cancelable task - tso
On 13 June 2011 00:40, jagadishan perumal jagadish...@gmail.com wrote: I tried Purging the tso but it was not coming down. The commands used to stop tso was : 1) stop tso - No luck 2) force tso,arm - No luck 3) force tso,arm,a=ASID - No luck I even tried looking for any outstanding message in console but there were no outstanding messages at all. Are you saying that each of the above commands produced no response at all on the console? Or just that there were no WTOR messages outstanding when you started? Could anyone please guide me in this. I can't guide you, but I can ask you some questions that may help you think about what you are trying to accomplish, and how. Do you understand what any of the above commands actually do? For example, can you explain the difference between STOP and CANCEL and FORCE,ARM and FORCE, and why you would choose one over another? My impression is that you think that each is just a matter of hitting TSO harder and with a bigger hammer, and eventually one hit will be strong enough to get rid of it. Why do you think that adding a=ASID to your FORCE,ARM would help in this case? Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Non-cancelable task - tso
On 13 June 2011 08:48, jagadishan perumal jagadish...@gmail.com wrote: @Lizette : WTOR was FSTOP with reply number, but even after that it didnt go down. I purged TN3270 and after that TSO was purgeable. What do you mean by purged and purgeable? Are you confusing the MVS STOP command with some sort of PURGE command, possibly the JES2 $P? Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Non-cancelable task - tso
In BANLkTinQ-OqNZgHsc72BoNAPTUy=ntp...@mail.gmail.com, on 06/13/2011 at 10:10 AM, jagadishan perumal jagadish...@gmail.com said: I tried Purging the tso No. Purge is something different. but it was not coming down. Why did you want it down? Did you first ask your users to log off? 1) stop tso - No luck Why not MODIFY? 2) force tso,arm - No luck A CANCEL is not a good idea except as a last resort. I'm not sure whether TCAS will clean up everything if you don't let it shut down normally. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Non-cancelable task - tso
Hi, I tried Purging the tso but it was not coming down. The commands used to stop tso was : 1) stop tso - No luck 2) force tso,arm - No luck 3) force tso,arm,a=ASID - No luck I even tried looking for any outstanding message in console but there were no outstanding messages at all. Could anyone please guide me in this. Regards, Jags -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Non-cancelable task - tso
I think you can try P TSO command, which will make your TSO down. Regards Saurabh On 6/13/2011 10:10 AM, jagadishan perumal wrote: Hi, I tried Purging the tso but it was not coming down. The commands used to stop tso was : 1) stop tso - No luck 2) force tso,arm - No luck 3) force tso,arm,a=ASID - No luck I even tried looking for any outstanding message in console but there were no outstanding messages at all. Could anyone please guide me in this. Regards, Jags -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Non-cancelable task - tso
Hi, I tried with P TSO too but no luck. Regards, Jags On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:14 AM, saurabh khandelwal saurabh.khandel...@oracle.com wrote: I think you can try P TSO command, which will make your TSO down. Regards Saurabh On 6/13/2011 10:10 AM, jagadishan perumal wrote: Hi, I tried Purging the tso but it was not coming down. The commands used to stop tso was : 1) stop tso - No luck 2) force tso,arm - No luck 3) force tso,arm,a=ASID - No luck I even tried looking for any outstanding message in console but there were no outstanding messages at all. Could anyone please guide me in this. Regards, Jags -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Non-cancelable task - tso
Can you please see, if you are getting any messages, while issuing this command. Regards Saurabh On 6/13/2011 10:16 AM, jagadishan perumal wrote: Hi, I tried with P TSO too but no luck. Regards, Jags On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:14 AM, saurabh khandelwal saurabh.khandel...@oracle.com mailto:saurabh.khandel...@oracle.com wrote: I think you can try P TSO command, which will make your TSO down. Regards Saurabh On 6/13/2011 10:10 AM, jagadishan perumal wrote: Hi, I tried Purging the tso but it was not coming down. The commands used to stop tso was : 1) stop tso - No luck 2) force tso,arm - No luck 3) force tso,arm,a=ASID - No luck I even tried looking for any outstanding message in console but there were no outstanding messages at all. Could anyone please guide me in this. Regards, Jags -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu mailto:lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Non-cancelable task - tso
Hi, When I give P TSO - Non- cancelable task - issue force arm Then, I gave : force tso,arm - command accepted. When I do D A,TSO - still the tso address space is up. then, I gave : force tso,arm,A=asid, but still the tso task is up. Regards, Jags On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:17 AM, saurabh khandelwal saurabh.khandel...@oracle.com wrote: Can you please see, if you are getting any messages, while issuing this command. Regards Saurabh On 6/13/2011 10:16 AM, jagadishan perumal wrote: Hi, I tried with P TSO too but no luck. Regards, Jags On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:14 AM, saurabh khandelwal saurabh.khandel...@oracle.com wrote: I think you can try P TSO command, which will make your TSO down. Regards Saurabh On 6/13/2011 10:10 AM, jagadishan perumal wrote: Hi, I tried Purging the tso but it was not coming down. The commands used to stop tso was : 1) stop tso - No luck 2) force tso,arm - No luck 3) force tso,arm,a=ASID - No luck I even tried looking for any outstanding message in console but there were no outstanding messages at all. Could anyone please guide me in this. Regards, Jags -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Non-cancelable task - tso
Can you confirm if any of your TSO users are still logged on to System. If yes, then cancel that user id and then try to stop TSO with P TSO command. Regards Saurabh On 6/13/2011 10:19 AM, jagadishan perumal wrote: Hi, When I give P TSO - Non- cancelable task - issue force arm Then, I gave : force tso,arm - command accepted. When I do D A,TSO - still the tso address space is up. then, I gave : force tso,arm,A=asid, but still the tso task is up. Regards, Jags On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:17 AM, saurabh khandelwal saurabh.khandel...@oracle.com mailto:saurabh.khandel...@oracle.com wrote: Can you please see, if you are getting any messages, while issuing this command. Regards Saurabh On 6/13/2011 10:16 AM, jagadishan perumal wrote: Hi, I tried with P TSO too but no luck. Regards, Jags On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:14 AM, saurabh khandelwal saurabh.khandel...@oracle.com mailto:saurabh.khandel...@oracle.com wrote: I think you can try P TSO command, which will make your TSO down. Regards Saurabh On 6/13/2011 10:10 AM, jagadishan perumal wrote: Hi, I tried Purging the tso but it was not coming down. The commands used to stop tso was : 1) stop tso - No luck 2) force tso,arm - No luck 3) force tso,arm,a=ASID - No luck I even tried looking for any outstanding message in console but there were no outstanding messages at all. Could anyone please guide me in this. Regards, Jags -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu mailto:lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Non-cancelable task - tso
Hi, I did D TS,L and there are no active TSO users. Regards, Jags On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:22 AM, saurabh khandelwal saurabh.khandel...@oracle.com wrote: Can you confirm if any of your TSO users are still logged on to System. If yes, then cancel that user id and then try to stop TSO with P TSO command. Regards Saurabh On 6/13/2011 10:19 AM, jagadishan perumal wrote: Hi, When I give P TSO - Non- cancelable task - issue force arm Then, I gave : force tso,arm - command accepted. When I do D A,TSO - still the tso address space is up. then, I gave : force tso,arm,A=asid, but still the tso task is up. Regards, Jags On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:17 AM, saurabh khandelwal saurabh.khandel...@oracle.com wrote: Can you please see, if you are getting any messages, while issuing this command. Regards Saurabh On 6/13/2011 10:16 AM, jagadishan perumal wrote: Hi, I tried with P TSO too but no luck. Regards, Jags On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:14 AM, saurabh khandelwal saurabh.khandel...@oracle.com wrote: I think you can try P TSO command, which will make your TSO down. Regards Saurabh On 6/13/2011 10:10 AM, jagadishan perumal wrote: Hi, I tried Purging the tso but it was not coming down. The commands used to stop tso was : 1) stop tso - No luck 2) force tso,arm - No luck 3) force tso,arm,a=ASID - No luck I even tried looking for any outstanding message in console but there were no outstanding messages at all. Could anyone please guide me in this. Regards, Jags -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Non-cancelable task - tso
Are you running any product on this LPAR. Also try 3270 address space and then recycle TSO . Regards Saurabh On 6/13/2011 10:32 AM, jagadishan perumal wrote: Hi, I did D TS,L and there are no active TSO users. Regards, Jags On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:22 AM, saurabh khandelwal saurabh.khandel...@oracle.com mailto:saurabh.khandel...@oracle.com wrote: Can you confirm if any of your TSO users are still logged on to System. If yes, then cancel that user id and then try to stop TSO with P TSO command. Regards Saurabh On 6/13/2011 10:19 AM, jagadishan perumal wrote: Hi, When I give P TSO - Non- cancelable task - issue force arm Then, I gave : force tso,arm - command accepted. When I do D A,TSO - still the tso address space is up. then, I gave : force tso,arm,A=asid, but still the tso task is up. Regards, Jags On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:17 AM, saurabh khandelwal saurabh.khandel...@oracle.com mailto:saurabh.khandel...@oracle.com wrote: Can you please see, if you are getting any messages, while issuing this command. Regards Saurabh On 6/13/2011 10:16 AM, jagadishan perumal wrote: Hi, I tried with P TSO too but no luck. Regards, Jags On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:14 AM, saurabh khandelwal saurabh.khandel...@oracle.com mailto:saurabh.khandel...@oracle.com wrote: I think you can try P TSO command, which will make your TSO down. Regards Saurabh On 6/13/2011 10:10 AM, jagadishan perumal wrote: Hi, I tried Purging the tso but it was not coming down. The commands used to stop tso was : 1) stop tso - No luck 2) force tso,arm - No luck 3) force tso,arm,a=ASID - No luck I even tried looking for any outstanding message in console but there were no outstanding messages at all. Could anyone please guide me in this. Regards, Jags -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu mailto:lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
