Re: RCFs (was Valid hexadecimal" (was: EBCDIC to HEX translation in Assembler?))

2007-07-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 07:39:42 -0400, Peter Relson wrote:
>
>I've also been informed that, to my dismay, no updates will happen to
>any old books "ever". Updates will be made only in the forthcoming R9
>books.
>
For the matter that started this thread, that FIN-analogue is
sufficient.  Of course, if the update is sufficiently urgent,
such as removing a mention of "Hercules", there will be a
deviation from the policy.

>Ugghh. The z/OS MVS books (i.e., the ones I am involved with) all have a
>page at the end "Readers' Comments -- We'd Like to Hear from You".
>I'm not sure why there is no electronic mechanism. I'll inquire.
>
It would be useful if the HTML (at least) version of the Comments
page contained a URL such as:

mailto://[EMAIL PROTECTED]

... but perhaps that's a topic for another (global) RCF.

-- gil

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Re: RCFs (was Valid hexadecimal" (was: EBCDIC to HEX translation in Assembler?))

2007-07-25 Thread Robert Wright
I wrote on 2007-07-25 08:19:01:

> I found the following in the front matter of several books from the z/OS
> MVS bookshelf:
>
> --
>
> IBM welcomes your comments. A form for readers’ comments may be provided
at
> the back of this document, or you may address your comments to the
> following address:
>
> International Business Machines Corporation
> Department 55JA, Mail Station P384
> 2455 South Road Poughkeepsie, NY 12601-5400
> United States of America
>
> FAX (United States & Canada): 1+845+432-9405
> FAX (Other Countries):
>   Your International Access Code +1+845+432-9405
>
> IBMLink™ (United States customers only): IBMUSM10(MHVRCFS)
> Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> World Wide Web: www.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/webqs.html
>
> If you would like a reply, be sure to include your name, address,
telephone
> number, or FAX number.
>
> Make sure to include the following in your comment or note:
> v Title and order number of this document
> v Page number or topic related to your comment
>
> When you send information to IBM, you grant IBM a nonexclusive right to
use
> or distribute the information in any way it believes appropriate without
> incurring any obligation to you.

I found identical information in TSO/E, DFSMS, and DFSORT books.  ISPF
books carry similar statements, but they invite responses to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Look just inside the front cover of recent books for
invitations to supply feedback electronically.

Bob Wright - MVS Service Aids

Re: RCFs (was Valid hexadecimal" (was: EBCDIC to HEX translation in Assembler?))

2007-07-25 Thread Robert Wright
Peter Relson wrote on 2007-07-25 07:39:42:

> 
> Ugghh. The z/OS MVS books (i.e., the ones I am involved with) all have a
> page at the end "Readers' Comments -- We'd Like to Hear from You".
> I'm not sure why there is no electronic mechanism. I'll inquire.
>
> But that is not consistent across the z/OS elements, unfortunately.
> I'll ask about that too.

I found the following in the front matter of several books from the z/OS
MVS bookshelf:

--

IBM welcomes your comments. A form for readers’ comments may be provided at
the back of this document, or you may address your comments to the
following address:

International Business Machines Corporation
Department 55JA, Mail Station P384
2455 South Road Poughkeepsie, NY 12601-5400
United States of America

FAX (United States & Canada): 1+845+432-9405
FAX (Other Countries):
  Your International Access Code +1+845+432-9405

IBMLink™ (United States customers only): IBMUSM10(MHVRCFS)
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
World Wide Web: www.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/webqs.html

If you would like a reply, be sure to include your name, address, telephone
number, or FAX number.

Make sure to include the following in your comment or note:
v Title and order number of this document
v Page number or topic related to your comment

When you send information to IBM, you grant IBM a nonexclusive right to use
or distribute the information in any way it believes appropriate without
incurring any obligation to you.

-

My personal favorite, used often, is the internet e-mail address.  There is
a good, disciplined process to ensure that the comments get responses.

I don't have an answer regarding publications from other elements of z/OS,
but I'll look in tandem with Peter.

Bob Wright - MVS Service Aids

Re: RCFs (was Valid hexadecimal" (was: EBCDIC to HEX translation in Assembler?))

2007-07-25 Thread Peter Relson
>You're off the hook, and if you've yet taken no action, it would be
>interesting to let it run its course and see whether Tech Pubs agrees
>with us.
The way our ID process seems to work today (at least in Poughkeepsie),
if someone suggests a change, the book owner contacts the technical
owner to see if (s)he agrees. So the ID person is not doing the "agreeing".

I've also been informed that, to my dismay, no updates will happen to
any old books "ever". Updates will be made only in the forthcoming R9
books.

>I've noticed that some recent IBM manuals (maybe only Tivoli
>manuals, but still IBM) no longer include the RCF or any electronic
>equivalent.   Is there an IBM-wide RCF (where "F" now stands
>for "function") that can be used for those manuals not providing
>their own?  If so, I've not found it (but haven't searched much,
>either).

Ugghh. The z/OS MVS books (i.e., the ones I am involved with) all have a
page at the end "Readers' Comments -- We'd Like to Hear from You".
I'm not sure why there is no electronic mechanism. I'll inquire.

But that is not consistent across the z/OS elements, unfortunately.
I'll ask about that too.

Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design

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Re: RCFs (was Valid hexadecimal" (was: EBCDIC to HEX translation in Assembler?))

2007-07-25 Thread R.S.

Patrick O'Keefe wrote:
[...]

I've noticed that some recent IBM manuals (maybe only Tivoli
manuals, but still IBM) no longer include the RCF or any electronic
equivalent.   Is there an IBM-wide RCF (where "F" now stands
for "function") that can be used for those manuals not providing
their own?  If so, I've not found it (but haven't searched much,
either).


I always use e-mail (mhvrcfs aatt us.ibm.com) for submitting comments, 
despite it is Tivoli or other IBM brand. It works.


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RCFs (was Valid hexadecimal" (was: EBCDIC to HEX translation in Assembler?))

2007-07-24 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:04:35 -0500, Paul Gilmartin 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>...
>>Minor chide: It is too bad that folks take their valuable time on ibm-
main
>>
>Cf. the "Heresy" thread.

Ah, but that thread allowed us to streach our pedantry muscles, 
an invaluable service for system programmers. 


>...
>Chiding accepted and RCF submitted ...
>...

I've noticed that some recent IBM manuals (maybe only Tivoli
manuals, but still IBM) no longer include the RCF or any electronic
equivalent.   Is there an IBM-wide RCF (where "F" now stands
for "function") that can be used for those manuals not providing
their own?  If so, I've not found it (but haven't searched much,
either).

Pat O'Keefe

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