Re: How to cancel with just the JES jobid?
On Fri, 9 May 2008 23:14:56 -0500, Kenneth E Tomiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How is it you came to have a jobid and not know the jobname? Maybe instead of fighting to find the name you can backtrack to what captured the jobid, it must have had a jobname at that point too. No. The assembler program writes JCL (from an MVS dataset or Unix System Services HFS file) to the internal reader, and retrieves the JES jobid from RPLRBAR. This interface does not give you the OS jobname, just JES jobid. But that's not a problem, SSI will return OS jobname for a given JES jobid, so I can get jobname. In the original post, I was trying how to find out the asid given a particular JES jobid (so I could do an OS cancel). An earlier port explained how to do that. Another post suggested using the undocumented SSI CANCEL (2), which is what I'm now leaning toward since it will cancel jobs stuck awaiting execution, where an OS cancel can only cancel a job that's running. On Fri, 9 May 2008 14:34:39 -0500, Mark Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From an authorized assembler program, I've got just a JES jobid (JOBn) and need to cancel it. This needs to work with both JES2 and JES3. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to cancel with just the JES jobid?
SSI function code 54 can be used to retrieve the JES command character. It will also tell you if you are running under JES2 or JES3, the version level, and lots more information. Title: z/OS V1R9.0 MVS Using the Subsystem Interface Document Number: SA22-7642-06 Has the details, and even has a sample program to extract the data. Note that the z/OS 1.9 level of the manual does not show the COMMAND_PREFIX= value, which may imply that it is not yet available for JES3 sites. It has been available in JES2 since z/OS 1.5. /jack - Original Message - From: Mark Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 3:34 PM Subject: How to cancel with just the JES jobid? snip JES Cancel JES2 and JES3 have completely different syntax for cancel, so I have to know which type I'm talking to. The CVT points to the JESCT (the main JES controlblock) which has a flag to test for JES2/JES3. That's not too hard. However, the JES2/JES3 commands are normally prefixed with $ (JES2) or * (JES3), but that is really just the subsystem command prefix and could be anything. I can't find the subsystem command character. It isn't in the JESCT or any obvious place. Any notion where that might be kept? Maybe it can be gotten through a subsystem interface call? Without knowing what command character is used for the primary JES, I can just default to $ for JES2 and * for JES3, but if a customer has changed that from the norm, it won't work. Any help on these issues or other approaches for cancelling jobs would be much appreciated. - Mark -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to cancel with just the JES jobid?
Jack Schudel wrote: Note that the z/OS 1.9 level of the manual does not show the COMMAND_PREFIX= value, which may imply that it is not yet available for JES3 sites. It has been available in JES2 since z/OS 1.5. I doubt IBM JES3 would ever populate this field to make it compatible with JES2. JES2 command prefixes are always system-scoped. JES3 is sysplex aware and allows up to seven sysplex-scoped prefixes and up to seven system-scoped prefixes. Even if they chose to report those prefixes via COMMAND_PREFIX= in SSI 54, the format would have to be substantially different. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to cancel with just the JES jobid?
Going back to the OP's question about finding the current installation's command character to allow him to issue a JES cancel by jobid command, would it be sufficient in a JES3 environment to just extract any of the JES3 command characters from a D OPDATA console command, since JES3 sites do not have to worry about running under poly-JES? Thanks, -jack - Original Message - From: Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 1:24 PM Subject: Re: How to cancel with just the JES jobid? Jack Schudel wrote: Note that the z/OS 1.9 level of the manual does not show the COMMAND_PREFIX= value, which may imply that it is not yet available for JES3 sites. It has been available in JES2 since z/OS 1.5. I doubt IBM JES3 would ever populate this field to make it compatible with JES2. JES2 command prefixes are always system-scoped. JES3 is sysplex aware and allows up to seven sysplex-scoped prefixes and up to seven system-scoped prefixes. Even if they chose to report those prefixes via COMMAND_PREFIX= in SSI 54, the format would have to be substantially different. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to cancel with just the JES jobid?
Jack Schudel wrote: Going back to the OP's question about finding the current installation's command character to allow him to issue a JES cancel by jobid command, would it be sufficient in a JES3 environment to just extract any of the JES3 command characters from a D OPDATA console command, since JES3 sites do not have to worry about running under poly-JES? Having to capture output from D OPDATA is lame. (CPF should have a QUERY function to allow inspection of existing prefixes!) Having to issue JES-specific operator commands is even more lame. IMHO, nothing beats SSI 2 for the OP's stated purpose. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to cancel with just the JES jobid?
Ed, I agree, the SSI manual is (almost) useless. I was in the process of writing a NOTIFY like process at my third employer before it was brought to my attention that the SSI was now documented, I think I wrote the first one in 1990 or something like it. Wayne Driscoll Product Developer NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 12:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How to cancel with just the JES jobid? Mark Jones wrote: On Fri, 9 May 2008 13:06:08 -0700, Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you able to use SSI function code 2 (CANCEL)? IEFSSCS has the SSOB mapping. Yes I guess, but it isn't documented in the MVS Using the Subsystem Interface manual. I could try to figure it out based on similar SSI calls, but would rather use a documented interface. I'll check into the SSOB mapping and see if I can figure it out. Thanks for the idea. I never really noticed, until you mentioned it, that SSI function code 2 (CANCEL) wasn't documented. In fact, I now see lots of ordinary, every-day SSI calls aren't in Using the SSI. That's ridiculous. Perhaps the authors of the book weren't particularly proud of the interfaces they neglected to mention. (A lot of it is pretty gross.) Or maybe they only had so much time money to devote. Or maybe they were just lazy. In the old days, there was no book. The SSI documentation was the JES source code. And, for me it still is... -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to cancel with just the JES jobid?
From looking at the documentation on the IAZXJSAB macro, you can step through the ASVT and get information about the job running in that address space. Including the JOBNAME, JOBID (JES job number JOBn, STCn, TSUn). -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to cancel with just the JES jobid?
Mark Jones wrote: From an authorized assembler program, I've got just a JES jobid (JOBn) and need to cancel it. This needs to work with both JES2 and JES3. There are two possible ways to do this, z/OS cancel or JES cancel. Build a command and issue SVC 34. Are you able to use SSI function code 2 (CANCEL)? IEFSSCS has the SSOB mapping. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to cancel with just the JES jobid?
On Fri, 9 May 2008 13:06:08 -0700, Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Jones wrote: From an authorized assembler program, I've got just a JES jobid (JOBn) and need to cancel it. This needs to work with both JES2 and JES3. There are two possible ways to do this, z/OS cancel or JES cancel. Build a command and issue SVC 34. Are you able to use SSI function code 2 (CANCEL)? IEFSSCS has the SSOB mapping. Yes I guess, but it isn't documented in the MVS Using the Subsystem Interface manual. I could try to figure it out based on similar SSI calls, but would rather use a documented interface. I'll check into the SSOB mapping and see if I can figure it out. Thanks for the idea. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to cancel with just the JES jobid?
How is it you came to have a jobid and not know the jobname? Maybe instead of fighting to find the name you can backtrack to what captured the jobid, it must have had a jobname at that point too. On Fri, 9 May 2008 14:34:39 -0500, Mark Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From an authorized assembler program, I've got just a JES jobid (JOBn) and need to cancel it. This needs to work with both JES2 and JES3. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to cancel with just the JES jobid?
Mark Jones wrote: On Fri, 9 May 2008 13:06:08 -0700, Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you able to use SSI function code 2 (CANCEL)? IEFSSCS has the SSOB mapping. Yes I guess, but it isn't documented in the MVS Using the Subsystem Interface manual. I could try to figure it out based on similar SSI calls, but would rather use a documented interface. I'll check into the SSOB mapping and see if I can figure it out. Thanks for the idea. I never really noticed, until you mentioned it, that SSI function code 2 (CANCEL) wasn't documented. In fact, I now see lots of ordinary, every-day SSI calls aren't in Using the SSI. That's ridiculous. Perhaps the authors of the book weren't particularly proud of the interfaces they neglected to mention. (A lot of it is pretty gross.) Or maybe they only had so much time money to devote. Or maybe they were just lazy. In the old days, there was no book. The SSI documentation was the JES source code. And, for me it still is... -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
