Re: Way... Back question...
Dave Cartwright wrote: ... you must realise without going through the archives that lowly customers are not likely to get as rapid a response as you. The desired efffect has been achieved, thanks again. Actually, if these things are prioritized at all, I would expect customers to get higher priority than IBMers. When I was an internal sysprog I got everything second--including access to the people who were then on Ralph's team--*after* IBM's customers. While it was sometimes frustrating I could never argue with the prioritization. This is of course a public forum and anyone should feel free to complain here if you want to vent. But submitting RCFs and using feedback links is as fast or faster than posting to IBM-MAIN...and, as Ralph says, more effective at getting a problem fixed. If you want to do both (for RCFs, at least), nothing prevents you from CCing [EMAIL PROTECTED] when you post to the list or vice versa. When using official channels is truly not getting things done, though, I personally welcome the opportunity to learn about it here. (Obviously this is my opinion and not an IBM position.) Some of us will take a minute to find and forward a complaint we see here, most often using the same link or e-mail address you would use, but this is not official support--we all have day jobs--and the actual feedback links and e-mail addresses should work fine. -- John Eells z/OS Technical Marketing IBM Poughkeepsie [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Way... Back question...
Leaping to j.c.'s defence; On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:41:50 -0400, Ralph Kaden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > . (Sorry. I don't usually criticize on >forums like this, Then don't. Thank you for using your lofty position to correct an error but you must realise without going through the archives that lowly customers are not likely to get as rapid a response as you. The desired efffect has been achieved, thanks again. Grumpy Old Dave. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Way... Back question...
"Hmmm
"Sample Code is available only to customers who have a license to IBM
OS/390 ("Qualified Customers"). If you do not have a license to OS/390,
you may NOT download the documentation or samples."
No mention of z/OS anywhere in that document"
I just clicked on "contact z/OS" on that page and submitted a
request to change the OS/390 references to z/OS. Probably took less time
to do that than to type the above. (Sorry. I don't usually criticize on
forums like this, but I'm a firm believer in "it's better to fix it than
to complain about it.")
Regards,
Ralph
Ralph Kaden
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> -Original Message-
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> I guess that's a perfect example of "ask, and yee shall receive". :)
>
> Thanks John!
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> You might find this enlightening:
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> http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/installation/sampdisc.html
Hmmm
"Sample Code is available only to customers who have a license to IBM
OS/390 ("Qualified Customers"). If you do not have a license to OS/390,
you may NOT download the documentation or samples."
No mention of z/OS anywhere in that document
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Heck, someone who once worked here obviously liked that show, since we have DNS host names for Boris, Natasha, Sherman, and Rocky (Rocky is a z/OS system). >>> Gary Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 8/19/2008 8:18 PM >>> I was wondering who it would be that could not resist the reference. I guess we know who, don't we...? A slightly related side story... For a while I collected limited edition prints by a wildlife artist named Robert Bateman. During my collecting phase, I wound up with a couple of prints, one titled "Winter Sunset Moose" and the other was titled "Black Squirrel". Well, after we remodeled our living room into the media room, I placed those prints on one of the walls. The squirrel print was slightly above and to the left the moose print and the two creatures actually "faced" each other. I placed them like that as an homage to "Rocky & Bullwinkle". Of all the people that went into that room to watch movies, chat, whatever..., only one person ever caught the reference. That was my son who had not even been born when "Rocky & Bullwinkle" were on. Gary Green Never use a 2x4 when a 2x6 will do just as well! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Hoelscher Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 4:33 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Way... Back question... since this is a wayback question, perhaps we should enlist the aid and assistance of Mr Peabody (and his pet boy Sherman) wayback machine . Chris Hoelscher Senior IDMS & DB2 Database Administrator Humana Inc 502-476-2538 [EMAIL PROTECTED] The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain CONFIDENTIAL material. If you receive this material/information in error, please contact the sender and delete or destroy the material/information. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.5/1620 - Release Date: 8/19/2008 6:04 AM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Note that my email domain has changed from jo-annstores.com to joann.com. Please update your address book and other records to reflect this change. CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Way... Back question...
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gary Green
>
> I guess that's a perfect example of "ask, and yee shall receive". :)
>
> Thanks John!
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John Eells
>
>
>
> You might find this enlightening:
>
> http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/installation/sampdisc.html
Hmmm
"Sample Code is available only to customers who have a license to IBM
OS/390 ("Qualified Customers"). If you do not have a license to OS/390,
you may NOT download the documentation or samples."
No mention of z/OS anywhere in that document
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Re: Way... Back question...
I was wondering who it would be that could not resist the reference. I guess we know who, don't we...? A slightly related side story... For a while I collected limited edition prints by a wildlife artist named Robert Bateman. During my collecting phase, I wound up with a couple of prints, one titled "Winter Sunset Moose" and the other was titled "Black Squirrel". Well, after we remodeled our living room into the media room, I placed those prints on one of the walls. The squirrel print was slightly above and to the left the moose print and the two creatures actually "faced" each other. I placed them like that as an homage to "Rocky & Bullwinkle". Of all the people that went into that room to watch movies, chat, whatever..., only one person ever caught the reference. That was my son who had not even been born when "Rocky & Bullwinkle" were on. Gary Green Never use a 2x4 when a 2x6 will do just as well! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Hoelscher Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 4:33 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Way... Back question... since this is a wayback question, perhaps we should enlist the aid and assistance of Mr Peabody (and his pet boy Sherman) wayback machine . Chris Hoelscher Senior IDMS & DB2 Database Administrator Humana Inc 502-476-2538 [EMAIL PROTECTED] The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain CONFIDENTIAL material. If you receive this material/information in error, please contact the sender and delete or destroy the material/information. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.5/1620 - Release Date: 8/19/2008 6:04 AM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Way... Back question...
I guess that's a perfect example of "ask, and yee shall receive". :) Thanks John! Gary Green Never use a 2x4 when a 2x6 will do just as well! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Eells Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 3:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Way... Back question... Gary Green wrote: > Thanks for the reference Lizette. > > Another list member reminded me of the name of the utility. > > Even though other processes could provide the same function, I was always fond of using the IPOUPDTE, now CPPUPDTE (which makes sense), utility. Some shops would not allow me to install non-approved software, other than my own toolkit of course. So, even though PDSMAN has always been an option, I could never depend on it being at a new client site, hence IPOUPDTE. > > You might find this enlightening: http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/installation/sampdisc.html -- John Eells z/OS Technical Marketing IBM Poughkeepsie [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.5/1620 - Release Date: 8/19/2008 6:04 AM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Way... Back question...
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:08:21 -0400, Jerry Fuchs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I found that if the PDS had a member $$$COIBM IPOUPDTE would work. No zap >required. >... In a couple shops I worked in about 20 years ago, those that were there after me may have wondered at all the datasets that mysteriously contained IBM copyright information. Or more likely, did not wonder at all. I'd forgotten all about that. IPOUPDTE was a really useful tool until better things came along. Pat O'Keefe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:48:04 -0400, Jerry Fuchs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Just curious. Where, if anywhere, is CPPUPDTE documented? > >I can't find it. > Besides Serverpac: http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/installation/cppupdte.html Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Re: Way... Back question...
Gary Green wrote: Thanks for the reference Lizette. Another list member reminded me of the name of the utility. Even though other processes could provide the same function, I was always fond of using the IPOUPDTE, now CPPUPDTE (which makes sense), utility. Some shops would not allow me to install non-approved software, other than my own toolkit of course. So, even though PDSMAN has always been an option, I could never depend on it being at a new client site, hence IPOUPDTE. You might find this enlightening: http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/installation/sampdisc.html -- John Eells z/OS Technical Marketing IBM Poughkeepsie [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Way... Back question...
First hit in Google. Don Imbriale -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Fuchs Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 2:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Way... Back question... Just curious. Where, if anywhere, is CPPUPDTE documented? I can't find it. This communication is from JPMorgan. Generally, this communication is for informational purposes only and it is not intended as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any financial instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction. In the event you are receiving the offering materials attached below related to your interest in hedge funds or private equity, this communication may be intended as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of such fund(s). All market prices, data and other information are not warranted as to completeness or accuracy and are subject to change without notice. Any comments or statements made herein do not necessarily reflect those of JPMorgan Chase & Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential, legally privileged, and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Although this transmission and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by JPMorgan Chase & Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates, as applicable, for any loss or damage arising in any way from its use. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. Please refer to http://www.jpmorgan.com/pages/disclosures for disclosures relating to UK legal entities. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Just curious. Where, if anywhere, is CPPUPDTE documented? I can't find it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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So that was what IPOUPDTE looked for with the BLDL... Interesting. Thanks for that piece of trivia. I just zapped the BC after the BLDL and made it a B. On Tue Aug 19 12:06 , Wayne Driscoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: >Gary, >The program was named IPOUPDTE and the "trick" to make it work was the >existence of a member name (IIRC) $$$COIBM. >Search the CBT tape, I believe that a similar program does exist. > >Wayne Driscoll >Product Developer >NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. > > > > >-Original Message- >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]','','','')">[EMAIL >PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Green >Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 11:45 AM >To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU >Subject: Way... Back question... > >All you IBM'ers out there reading this, please delete this message and keep >moving... I'm serious now, move on... There is nothing for you to see >here... >. >. >. > >Now that they're gone... > >Way, WAY back, IBM provided a utility in IPO1.LINKLIB (at least I think that's >where it was) which would allow one to perform mass changes (edits) against a >typical 80/80 PDS; JCL, TEXT, etc... IBM provided it to mass-edit IPO type >datasets during the system build process. The last time I recall getting a >copy was during an OS/390 upgrade... I think is was called something like, >SYSUPDAT or something along those lines. > >While an extremely useful utility, it was coded to only allow changes against >IBM "supplied" datasets. However, if one knew exactly where to ZAP the load >module, the utility could be used against any PDS; which is what I did, and >boy, was that thing useful while performing a couple of my day-to-day >responsibilities... > >When I would move from shop to shop, that was when I worked for the consulting >company, I would take my "toolkit" (every TSO PDS I had) with me, unload the >toolkit to disk at the new site, including an XMI and IEBCOPY format of the >loadlib which contained the utility, run this utility against every text-based >PDS I brought with me and I would be up and ready to pickup where I left off. >It was great! > >Well, I lost my, er..., copy during a hard drive failure a few years ago; on >one of our in-house P/390's. Now that I am moving on to another shop, I find >I will need it again. I have at least 4 dozen PDS's I will need to "mass >edit" when I get to my next shop. I would really like another copy of this >utility to make the mass changes necessary. Does anyone know OF this utility >and if so, is it still around and if so, where could I find it? > >I looked in the CPAC loadlib(s) and it's not there. > >Thanks in advance for any help. > >-- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO >Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > >-- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO >Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Way... Back question...
Thanks for the reference Lizette. Another list member reminded me of the name of the utility. Even though other processes could provide the same function, I was always fond of using the IPOUPDTE, now CPPUPDTE (which makes sense), utility. Some shops would not allow me to install non-approved software, other than my own toolkit of course. So, even though PDSMAN has always been an option, I could never depend on it being at a new client site, hence IPOUPDTE. On Tue Aug 19 9:58 , Lizette Koehler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: >Gary, > >I believe you are thinking of IPOUPDTE. I am not sure about the zapping part >or if it is even shipped any more. > >Today there are many options that can do a similar process. There may even be >something on the CBT tape with the PDS command. > >But, PDSMAN if available can do what you are looking for. > >Lizette > > >> >> Way, WAY back, IBM provided a utility in IPO1.LINKLIB (at least I think >> that's where it was) which would allow one to perform mass changes >> (edits) against a typical 80/80 PDS; JCL, TEXT, etc... IBM provided it >> to mass-edit IPO type datasets during the system build process. The >> last time I recall getting a copy was during an OS/390 upgrade... I >> think is was called something like, SYSUPDAT or something along those >> lines. >> >> While an extremely useful utility, it was coded to only allow changes >> against IBM "supplied" datasets. However, if one knew exactly where to >> ZAP the load module, the utility could be used against any PDS; which >> is what I did, and boy, was that thing useful while performing a couple >> of my day-to-day responsibilities... >> >> When I would move from shop to shop, that was when I worked for the >> consulting company, I would take my "toolkit" (every TSO PDS I had) >> with me, unload the toolkit to disk at the new site, including an XMI >> and IEBCOPY format of the loadlib which contained the utility, run this >> utility against every text-based PDS I brought with me and I would be >> up and ready to pickup where I left off. It was great! >> >> Well, I lost my, er..., copy during a hard drive failure a few years >> ago; on one of our in-house P/390's. Now that I am moving on to >> another shop, I find I will need it again. I have at least 4 dozen >> PDS's I will need to "mass edit" when I get to my next shop. I would >> really like another copy of this utility to make the mass changes >> necessary. Does anyone know OF this utility and if so, is it still >> around and if so, where could I find it? >> > >-- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO >Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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I KNEW someone on this list would recall that thing... :) Thanks! Oh, I found it in the *.SCPPLOAD PDS... On Tue Aug 19 11:57 , "Field, Alan C." sent: >Program is called CPPUPDTE now. > >This was the zap for IPOUPDTE: > >NAME IPOUPDTE IPOUPDTE >VER 0548 0A12 BLDL >REP 0548 1BFF SR 15,1R > >-Original Message- >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]','','','')">[EMAIL >PROTECTED] On >Behalf Of Gary Green >Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 11:45 >To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU >Subject: Way... Back question... > > >I looked in the CPAC loadlib(s) and it's not there. > >Thanks in advance for any help. > >-- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO >Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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I found that if the PDS had a member $$$COIBM IPOUPDTE would work. No zap required. Jerry -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Gary, The program was named IPOUPDTE and the "trick" to make it work was the existence of a member name (IIRC) $$$COIBM. Search the CBT tape, I believe that a similar program does exist. Wayne Driscoll Product Developer NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Green Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 11:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Way... Back question... All you IBM'ers out there reading this, please delete this message and keep moving... I'm serious now, move on... There is nothing for you to see here... . . . Now that they're gone... Way, WAY back, IBM provided a utility in IPO1.LINKLIB (at least I think that's where it was) which would allow one to perform mass changes (edits) against a typical 80/80 PDS; JCL, TEXT, etc... IBM provided it to mass-edit IPO type datasets during the system build process. The last time I recall getting a copy was during an OS/390 upgrade... I think is was called something like, SYSUPDAT or something along those lines. While an extremely useful utility, it was coded to only allow changes against IBM "supplied" datasets. However, if one knew exactly where to ZAP the load module, the utility could be used against any PDS; which is what I did, and boy, was that thing useful while performing a couple of my day-to-day responsibilities... When I would move from shop to shop, that was when I worked for the consulting company, I would take my "toolkit" (every TSO PDS I had) with me, unload the toolkit to disk at the new site, including an XMI and IEBCOPY format of the loadlib which contained the utility, run this utility against every text-based PDS I brought with me and I would be up and ready to pickup where I left off. It was great! Well, I lost my, er..., copy during a hard drive failure a few years ago; on one of our in-house P/390's. Now that I am moving on to another shop, I find I will need it again. I have at least 4 dozen PDS's I will need to "mass edit" when I get to my next shop. I would really like another copy of this utility to make the mass changes necessary. Does anyone know OF this utility and if so, is it still around and if so, where could I find it? I looked in the CPAC loadlib(s) and it's not there. Thanks in advance for any help. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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On Tue, 2008-08-19 at 12:45 -0400, Gary Green wrote: > I looked in the CPAC loadlib(s) and it's not there. Look in the SCPPLOAD library for CPPUPDTE. -- David Andrews A. Duda and Sons, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Way... Back question...
You might look at the TSUPDATE program in file 35 from www.cbttape.org. /Tom Kern On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:45:15 -0400, Gary Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Way, WAY back, IBM provided a utility in IPO1.LINKLIB (at least I think that's where it was) which would allow one to perform mass changes (edits) against a typical 80/80 PDS; JCL, TEXT, etc... IBM provided it to mass-edit IPO type datasets during the system build process. The last time I recall getting a copy was during an OS/390 upgrade... I think is was called something like, SYSUPDAT or something along those lines. > >While an extremely useful utility, it was coded to only allow changes against IBM "supplied" datasets. However, if one knew exactly where to ZAP the load module, the utility could be used against any PDS; which is what I did, and boy, was that thing useful while performing a couple of my day-to-day responsibilities... > >When I would move from shop to shop, that was when I worked for the consulting company, I would take my "toolkit" (every TSO PDS I had) with me, unload the toolkit to disk at the new site, including an XMI and IEBCOPY format of the loadlib which contained the utility, run this utility against every text-based PDS I brought with me and I would be up and ready to pickup where I left off. It was great! > >Well, I lost my, er..., copy during a hard drive failure a few years ago; on one of our in-house P/390's. Now that I am moving on to another shop, I find I will need it again. I have at least 4 dozen PDS's I will need to "mass edit" when I get to my next shop. I would really like another copy of this utility to make the mass changes necessary. Does anyone know OF this utility and if so, is it still around and if so, where could I find it? > >I looked in the CPAC loadlib(s) and it's not there. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Way... Back question...
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:45:15 -0400, Gary Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Well, I lost my, er..., copy during a hard drive failure a few years ago; on one of our in-house P/390's. Now that I am moving on to another shop, I find I will need it again. I have at least 4 dozen PDS's I will need to "mass edit" when I get to my next shop. I would really like another copy of this utility to make the mass changes necessary. Does anyone know OF this utility and if so, is it still around and if so, where could I find it? > It's now CPPUPDTE. It is in the Serverpac orderhlq.SCPPLOAD library. Search the archives. But personally, I would just use the PDS86 utility from http://www.cbttape.org. -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Way... Back question...
Gary, I believe you are thinking of IPOUPDTE. I am not sure about the zapping part or if it is even shipped any more. Today there are many options that can do a similar process. There may even be something on the CBT tape with the PDS command. But, PDSMAN if available can do what you are looking for. Lizette > > Way, WAY back, IBM provided a utility in IPO1.LINKLIB (at least I think > that's where it was) which would allow one to perform mass changes > (edits) against a typical 80/80 PDS; JCL, TEXT, etc... IBM provided it > to mass-edit IPO type datasets during the system build process. The > last time I recall getting a copy was during an OS/390 upgrade... I > think is was called something like, SYSUPDAT or something along those > lines. > > While an extremely useful utility, it was coded to only allow changes > against IBM "supplied" datasets. However, if one knew exactly where to > ZAP the load module, the utility could be used against any PDS; which > is what I did, and boy, was that thing useful while performing a couple > of my day-to-day responsibilities... > > When I would move from shop to shop, that was when I worked for the > consulting company, I would take my "toolkit" (every TSO PDS I had) > with me, unload the toolkit to disk at the new site, including an XMI > and IEBCOPY format of the loadlib which contained the utility, run this > utility against every text-based PDS I brought with me and I would be > up and ready to pickup where I left off. It was great! > > Well, I lost my, er..., copy during a hard drive failure a few years > ago; on one of our in-house P/390's. Now that I am moving on to > another shop, I find I will need it again. I have at least 4 dozen > PDS's I will need to "mass edit" when I get to my next shop. I would > really like another copy of this utility to make the mass changes > necessary. Does anyone know OF this utility and if so, is it still > around and if so, where could I find it? > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Way... Back question...
Program is called CPPUPDTE now. This was the zap for IPOUPDTE: NAME IPOUPDTE IPOUPDTE VER 0548 0A12 BLDL REP 0548 1BFF SR 15,1R -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Green Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 11:45 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Way... Back question... I looked in the CPAC loadlib(s) and it's not there. Thanks in advance for any help. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
