SMS QUESTION - DISKS STILL BEING ALLOCATED
Good Morn, I have 2 vols (SMS managed) which I am trying to reclaim, however since there are some dsns on the packs. I changed the status from ENANLE to DISNEW so that no new dsns are allocated. Next, I performed the ACTIVATE (option 8.5) of the new CDS but I noticed that new dsns are still being allocated on the volume. Below are the details: System/Sys SMS Vol MVS Vol SMS SG | System/Sys SMS Vol MVS Vol SMS SG Group Name Status Status Status | Group Name Status Status Status -- --- -- | -- --- -- SYADISNEW ENABLE | SYBDISNEW ENABLE SYDDISNEW ENABLE | SYEDISNEW ENABLE Have I missed something? Should I change the status from ENABLE to DISALL? Thanks. - Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMS QUESTION - DISKS STILL BEING ALLOCATED
This should be sufficient. You could verify online that the volumes are really disnew, with the operator command: D SMS,VOL(volser) Kees. John Dawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Good Morn, I have 2 vols (SMS managed) which I am trying to reclaim, however since there are some dsns on the packs. I changed the status from ENANLE to DISNEW so that no new dsns are allocated. Next, I performed the ACTIVATE (option 8.5) of the new CDS but I noticed that new dsns are still being allocated on the volume. Below are the details: System/Sys SMS Vol MVS Vol SMS SG | System/Sys SMS Vol MVS Vol SMS SG Group Name Status Status Status | Group Name Status Status Status -- --- -- | -- --- -- SYADISNEW ENABLE | SYBDISNEW ENABLE SYDDISNEW ENABLE | SYEDISNEW ENABLE Have I missed something? Should I change the status from ENABLE to DISALL? Thanks. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMS QUESTION - DISKS STILL BEING ALLOCATED
Did you activate the same SCDS that you updated? From: John Dawes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 3/3/2008 8:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: SMS QUESTION - DISKS STILL BEING ALLOCATED Good Morn, I have 2 vols (SMS managed) which I am trying to reclaim, however since there are some dsns on the packs. I changed the status from ENANLE to DISNEW so that no new dsns are allocated. Next, I performed the ACTIVATE (option 8.5) of the new CDS but I noticed that new dsns are still being allocated on the volume. Below are the details: System/Sys SMS Vol MVS Vol SMS SG | System/Sys SMS Vol MVS Vol SMS SG Group Name Status Status Status | Group Name Status Status Status -- --- -- | -- --- -- SYADISNEW ENABLE | SYBDISNEW ENABLE SYDDISNEW ENABLE | SYEDISNEW ENABLE Have I missed something? Should I change the status from ENABLE to DISALL? Thanks. - Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMS QUESTION - DISKS STILL BEING ALLOCATED
Yes, I activated the SCDS right after I changed the status to DISNEW. O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you activate the same SCDS that you updated? From: John Dawes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 3/3/2008 8:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: SMS QUESTION - DISKS STILL BEING ALLOCATED Good Morn, I have 2 vols (SMS managed) which I am trying to reclaim, however since there are some dsns on the packs. I changed the status from ENANLE to DISNEW so that no new dsns are allocated. Next, I performed the ACTIVATE (option 8.5) of the new CDS but I noticed that new dsns are still being allocated on the volume. Below are the details: System/Sys SMS Vol MVS Vol SMS SG | System/Sys SMS Vol MVS Vol SMS SG Group Name Status Status Status | Group Name Status Status Status -- --- -- | -- --- -- SYA DISNEW ENABLE | SYB DISNEW ENABLE SYD DISNEW ENABLE | SYE DISNEW ENABLE Have I missed something? Should I change the status from ENABLE to DISALL? Thanks. - Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMS QUESTION - DISKS STILL BEING ALLOCATED
Yes, but was it the SAME SCDS? From: John Dawes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 3/3/2008 8:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SMS QUESTION - DISKS STILL BEING ALLOCATED Yes, I activated the SCDS right after I changed the status to DISNEW. O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you activate the same SCDS that you updated? From: John Dawes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 3/3/2008 8:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: SMS QUESTION - DISKS STILL BEING ALLOCATED Good Morn, I have 2 vols (SMS managed) which I am trying to reclaim, however since there are some dsns on the packs. I changed the status from ENANLE to DISNEW so that no new dsns are allocated. Next, I performed the ACTIVATE (option 8.5) of the new CDS but I noticed that new dsns are still being allocated on the volume. Below are the details: System/Sys SMS Vol MVS Vol SMS SG | System/Sys SMS Vol MVS Vol SMS SG Group Name Status Status Status | Group Name Status Status Status -- --- -- | -- --- -- SYA DISNEW ENABLE | SYB DISNEW ENABLE SYD DISNEW ENABLE | SYE DISNEW ENABLE Have I missed something? Should I change the status from ENABLE to DISALL? Thanks. - Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMS QUESTION - DISKS STILL BEING ALLOCATED
John, Good Morn, I have 2 vols (SMS managed) which I am trying to reclaim, however since there are some dsns on the packs. I changed the status from ENANLE to DISNEW so that no new dsns are allocated. Next, I performed the ACTIVATE (option 8.5) of the new CDS but I noticed that new dsns are still being allocated on the volume. Below are the details: System/Sys SMS Vol MVS Vol SMS SG | System/Sys SMS Vol MVS VolSMS SG Group Name Status Status Status | Group Name Status Status Status -- --- -- | -- --- -- SYADISNEW ENABLE | SYBDISNEW ENABLE SYDDISNEW ENABLE | SYEDISNEW ENABLE Have I missed something? Should I change the status from ENABLE to DISALL? Thanks. I would never recommend DISALL. I *think* it will prevent you from accessing existing datasets. The current status should prevent new datasets from being allocated. You could have issued V SMS,VOL(volser,ALL),DISABLE,NEW for each volume instead of changing the source control dataset and activating it. Of course, you would need to remember that you dynamically changed the status of the volumes if you needed to make a change to the sms configuration (ie. change in acs routine(s)). Regards, John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMS QUESTION - DISKS STILL BEING ALLOCATED
John, I tried your suggestion and it worked. When I perform D SMS,VOL(TMV023) it shows that it is disabled in all partitions. I should have mentioned that this environment is JES3. Kindly correct me if I am wrong, in the future instead of performing the DISNEW at the ISMF level, it would be preferable that I issued the command (via console) for each pack as you had suggested. My thanks to all of you who responded. John Kington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John, Good Morn, I have 2 vols (SMS managed) which I am trying to reclaim, however since there are some dsns on the packs. I changed the status from ENANLE to DISNEW so that no new dsns are allocated. Next, I performed the ACTIVATE (option 8.5) of the new CDS but I noticed that new dsns are still being allocated on the volume. Below are the details: System/Sys SMS Vol MVS Vol SMS SG | System/Sys SMS Vol MVS VolSMS SG Group Name Status Status Status | Group Name Status Status Status -- --- -- | -- --- -- SYA DISNEW ENABLE | SYB DISNEW ENABLE SYD DISNEW ENABLE | SYE DISNEW ENABLE Have I missed something? Should I change the status from ENABLE to DISALL? Thanks. I would never recommend DISALL. I *think* it will prevent you from accessing existing datasets. The current status should prevent new datasets from being allocated. You could have issued V SMS,VOL(volser,ALL),DISABLE,NEW for each volume instead of changing the source control dataset and activating it. Of course, you would need to remember that you dynamically changed the status of the volumes if you needed to make a change to the sms configuration (ie. change in acs routine(s)). Regards, John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMS QUESTION - DISKS STILL BEING ALLOCATED
David, Yes, I verified. Quite a sticky wicket I presume. Thanks again for your help. O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, but was it the SAME SCDS? From: John Dawes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 3/3/2008 8:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SMS QUESTION - DISKS STILL BEING ALLOCATED Yes, I activated the SCDS right after I changed the status to DISNEW. O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] wrote: Did you activate the same SCDS that you updated? From: John Dawes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 3/3/2008 8:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: SMS QUESTION - DISKS STILL BEING ALLOCATED Good Morn, I have 2 vols (SMS managed) which I am trying to reclaim, however since there are some dsns on the packs. I changed the status from ENANLE to DISNEW so that no new dsns are allocated. Next, I performed the ACTIVATE (option 8.5) of the new CDS but I noticed that new dsns are still being allocated on the volume. Below are the details: System/Sys SMS Vol MVS Vol SMS SG | System/Sys SMS Vol MVS Vol SMS SG Group Name Status Status Status | Group Name Status Status Status -- --- -- | -- --- -- SYA DISNEW ENABLE | SYB DISNEW ENABLE SYD DISNEW ENABLE | SYE DISNEW ENABLE Have I missed something? Should I change the status from ENABLE to DISALL? Thanks. - Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMS QUESTION - DISKS STILL BEING ALLOCATED
Were these 2 volumes the only volumes in the Storage Group? Is that why you disnew'd the group instead of the volumes? Good Morn, I have 2 vols (SMS managed) which I am trying to reclaim, however since there are some dsns on the packs. I changed the status from ENANLE to DISNEW so that no new dsns are allocated. Next, I performed the ACTIVATE (option 8.5) of the new CDS but I noticed that new dsns are still being allocated on the volume. Below are the details: System/Sys SMS Vol MVS Vol SMS SG | System/Sys SMS Vol MVS Vol SMS SG Group Name Status Status Status | Group Name Status Status Status -- --- -- | -- --- -- SYA DISNEW ENABLE | SYB DISNEW ENABLE SYD DISNEW ENABLE | SYE DISNEW ENABLE Have I missed something? Should I change the status from ENABLE to DISALL? Thanks. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMS QUESTION - DISKS STILL BEING ALLOCATED
John, The result of your method and the online V SMS commands are the same. What exactly do you mean with new dsns are still being allocated? DISNEW means that no new datasets should be created on the volumes, existing datasets can still be allocated by starting jobs of tasks. Kees. John Dawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... David, Yes, I verified. Quite a sticky wicket I presume. Thanks again for your help. O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, but was it the SAME SCDS? From: John Dawes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 3/3/2008 8:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SMS QUESTION - DISKS STILL BEING ALLOCATED Yes, I activated the SCDS right after I changed the status to DISNEW. O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] wrote: Did you activate the same SCDS that you updated? From: John Dawes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 3/3/2008 8:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: SMS QUESTION - DISKS STILL BEING ALLOCATED Good Morn, I have 2 vols (SMS managed) which I am trying to reclaim, however since there are some dsns on the packs. I changed the status from ENANLE to DISNEW so that no new dsns are allocated. Next, I performed the ACTIVATE (option 8.5) of the new CDS but I noticed that new dsns are still being allocated on the volume. Below are the details: System/Sys SMS Vol MVS Vol SMS SG | System/Sys SMS Vol MVS Vol SMS SG Group Name Status Status Status | Group Name Status Status Status -- --- -- | -- --- -- SYA DISNEW ENABLE | SYB DISNEW ENABLE SYD DISNEW ENABLE | SYE DISNEW ENABLE Have I missed something? Should I change the status from ENABLE to DISALL? Thanks. - Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMS QUESTION - DISKS STILL BEING ALLOCATED
snip Kindly correct me if I am wrong, in the future instead of performing the DISNEW at the ISMF level, it would be preferable that I issued the command (via console) for each pack as you had suggested. My thanks to all of you who responded. John Kington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John, unsnip It all depends. As was mentioned earlier, if you activate a SCDS, then you will need to re-issue these dynamic changes or they will be lost. If you have a small group, that is easily controlled and with good communications then this will work just fine. If you don't have good communications amongst the members of the group, then you might be better off changing the SCDS and activating as you did this time. Tom Moulder No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.3/1308 - Release Date: 3/3/2008 10:01 AM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMS QUESTION - DISKS STILL BEING ALLOCATED
David, No, there are 23 vols in the same storage group. The reason I want to reclaim these 2 is because the volume of dsns has diminished by 3/4 and the space is no longer needed to be allocated. O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Were these 2 volumes the only volumes in the Storage Group? Is that why you disnew'd the group instead of the volumes? Good Morn, I have 2 vols (SMS managed) which I am trying to reclaim, however since there are some dsns on the packs. I changed the status from ENANLE to DISNEW so that no new dsns are allocated. Next, I performed the ACTIVATE (option 8.5) of the new CDS but I noticed that new dsns are still being allocated on the volume. Below are the details: System/Sys SMS Vol MVS Vol SMS SG | System/Sys SMS Vol MVS Vol SMS SG Group Name Status Status Status | Group Name Status Status Status -- --- -- | -- --- -- SYA DISNEW ENABLE | SYB DISNEW ENABLE SYD DISNEW ENABLE | SYE DISNEW ENABLE Have I missed something? Should I change the status from ENABLE to DISALL? Thanks. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMS QUESTION - DISKS STILL BEING ALLOCATED
John, I tried your suggestion and it worked. When I perform D SMS, VOL(TMV023) it shows that it is disabled in all partitions. I should have mentioned that this environment is JES3. I have never worked in a jes3 environment but I seem to recall that resources were scheduled for the entire job when it is started vs. when each job step is started in a jes2 environment. That may be why you continued to see new datasets on the volumes for a while. Kindly correct me if I am wrong, in the future instead of performing the DISNEW at the ISMF level, it would be preferable that I issued the command (via console) for each pack as you had suggested. Using the operator command is quick and easy. The hard part is remembering that you changed the status dynamically. If you have not reclaimed the volume(s), activating a new configuration will undo the effects of the command. Regards, John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMS QUESTION - DISKS STILL BEING ALLOCATED
O'Brien, David W. [C] , NIH/CIT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Were these 2 volumes the only volumes in the Storage Group? Is that why you disnew'd the group instead of the volumes? Good Morn, I have 2 vols (SMS managed) which I am trying to reclaim, however since there are some dsns on the packs. I changed the status from ENANLE to DISNEW so that no new dsns are allocated. Next, I performed the ACTIVATE (option 8.5) of the new CDS but I noticed that new dsns are still being allocated on the volume. Below are the details: System/Sys SMS Vol MVS Vol SMS SG | System/Sys SMS Vol MVS Vol SMS SG Group Name Status Status Status | Group Name Status Status Status -- --- -- | -- --- -- SYA DISNEW ENABLE | SYB DISNEW ENABLE SYD DISNEW ENABLE | SYE DISNEW ENABLE Have I missed something? Should I change the status from ENABLE to DISALL? Thanks. David, the volumes are disnew'd, not the SG. If you format the table with non-proportional font,this will be clear. Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMS QUESTION - DISKS STILL BEING ALLOCATED
I noticed that 93 datasets were created on these volumes from Mar 01 to Mar 03. I did the DISNEW on Feb 28. Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John, The result of your method and the online V SMS commands are the same. What exactly do you mean with new dsns are still being allocated? DISNEW means that no new datasets should be created on the volumes, existing datasets can still be allocated by starting jobs of tasks. Kees. John Dawes wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... David, Yes, I verified. Quite a sticky wicket I presume. Thanks again for your help. O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] wrote: Yes, but was it the SAME SCDS? From: John Dawes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 3/3/2008 8:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SMS QUESTION - DISKS STILL BEING ALLOCATED Yes, I activated the SCDS right after I changed the status to DISNEW. O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] wrote: Did you activate the same SCDS that you updated? From: John Dawes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 3/3/2008 8:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: SMS QUESTION - DISKS STILL BEING ALLOCATED Good Morn, I have 2 vols (SMS managed) which I am trying to reclaim, however since there are some dsns on the packs. I changed the status from ENANLE to DISNEW so that no new dsns are allocated. Next, I performed the ACTIVATE (option 8.5) of the new CDS but I noticed that new dsns are still being allocated on the volume. Below are the details: System/Sys SMS Vol MVS Vol SMS SG | System/Sys SMS Vol MVS Vol SMS SG Group Name Status Status Status | Group Name Status Status Status -- --- -- | -- --- -- SYA DISNEW ENABLE | SYB DISNEW ENABLE SYD DISNEW ENABLE | SYE DISNEW ENABLE Have I missed something? Should I change the status from ENABLE to DISALL? Thanks. - Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search
Re: SMS QUESTION - DISKS STILL BEING ALLOCATED
Pardon my fat fingers -- I meant to type CDS instead of SCDS. Next time I'll look more closely before I click on SEND. Tom -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Moulder Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 8:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SMS QUESTION - DISKS STILL BEING ALLOCATED snip Kindly correct me if I am wrong, in the future instead of performing the DISNEW at the ISMF level, it would be preferable that I issued the command (via console) for each pack as you had suggested. My thanks to all of you who responded. John Kington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John, unsnip It all depends. As was mentioned earlier, if you activate a SCDS, then you will need to re-issue these dynamic changes or they will be lost. If you have a small group, that is easily controlled and with good communications then this will work just fine. If you don't have good communications amongst the members of the group, then you might be better off changing the SCDS and activating as you did this time. Tom Moulder No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.3/1308 - Release Date: 3/3/2008 10:01 AM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.3/1308 - Release Date: 3/3/2008 10:01 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.3/1308 - Release Date: 3/3/2008 10:01 AM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMS QUESTION - DISKS STILL BEING ALLOCATED
Is it possible that these 93 datasets appeared on these volumes as a result of DFHSM RECALLs? Regards, Ulrich Krueger -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 08:19 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SMS QUESTION - DISKS STILL BEING ALLOCATED I noticed that 93 datasets were created on these volumes from Mar 01 to Mar 03. I did the DISNEW on Feb 28. Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John, The result of your method and the online V SMS commands are the same. What exactly do you mean with new dsns are still being allocated? DISNEW means that no new datasets should be created on the volumes, existing datasets can still be allocated by starting jobs of tasks. Kees. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMS QUESTION - DISKS STILL BEING ALLOCATED
I checked, no. I skimmed through the syslog and I found 50 (so far) were allocated by batch jobs. Ulrich Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible that these 93 datasets appeared on these volumes as a result of DFHSM RECALLs? Regards, Ulrich Krueger -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 08:19 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SMS QUESTION - DISKS STILL BEING ALLOCATED I noticed that 93 datasets were created on these volumes from Mar 01 to Mar 03. I did the DISNEW on Feb 28. Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM wrote: John, The result of your method and the online V SMS commands are the same. What exactly do you mean with new dsns are still being allocated? DISNEW means that no new datasets should be created on the volumes, existing datasets can still be allocated by starting jobs of tasks. Kees. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMS QUESTION - DISKS STILL BEING ALLOCATED
John, did you recheck the status with D SMS,VOL(volser). Post the output, I am curious. Kees. John Dawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I checked, no. I skimmed through the syslog and I found 50 (so far) were allocated by batch jobs. Ulrich Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible that these 93 datasets appeared on these volumes as a result of DFHSM RECALLs? Regards, Ulrich Krueger -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 08:19 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SMS QUESTION - DISKS STILL BEING ALLOCATED I noticed that 93 datasets were created on these volumes from Mar 01 to Mar 03. I did the DISNEW on Feb 28. Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM wrote: John, The result of your method and the online V SMS commands are the same. What exactly do you mean with new dsns are still being allocated? DISNEW means that no new datasets should be created on the volumes, existing datasets can still be allocated by starting jobs of tasks. Kees. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
