Re: Q re attaching COBOL program

2013-03-18 Thread Victor Gil
Well, if you're anxious to see the code, here it is -

COB#SYNC ATENTRY 'Run ASYNC task from COBOL',TRACE=NO
*   
 ST   R1,R1_ON_ENTRY
*   
 LA   R4,DYN_PCT
   USING MTCT_TASK,R4   
 LR5,0(,R1)  <-- FIRST PARM = PROGRAM NAME  
 MVC  MTCT_TASK_PROG,0(R5) 
-  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  - 10 Line(s) not Displayed 
 MVC  DYN_ATCH(L_ATCH_LST),ATCH_LST 
 XC   MTCT_TASK_TECB,MTCT_TASK_TECB 
 LA   R2,MTCT_TASK_TECB 
 LA   R15,DYN_ATCH  
 LA   R1,4(0,R1)  PASS THE REST OF PARMS
*   
 ATTACH EPLOC=MTCT_TASK_PROG,  X
   ECB=(R2),   X
   SZERO=NO,   X
   SF=(E,(R15)) 
*   
 LTR  R15,R15 DID ATTACH WORK?  
 BZ   ATTACHEDYES - 
   LOG$MSG 'Unable to Attach . Abending...',MTCT_TASK_PROG  
 DC  H'0'   
*   
ATTACHED DC 0H  
 STR1,MTCT_TASK_TCB   SAVE TCB  
 UNPK  DWORK(9),MTCT_TASK_TCB(5)
 MVZ   DWORK,ZONE_ZERO  
 TRDWORK,HEXTAB 
LOG$MSG 'Prog  Attached. TCB=',X
   MTCT_TASK_PROG,DWORK 
*   
 LA   R2,MTCT_TASK_TECB 
 WAIT 1,ECB=(R2)
*   
LOG$MSG 'Prog  terminated',MTCT_TASK_PROG   
*   
DETACH  MTCT_TASK_TCB   
*   
 B   COB#SYNC_EXIT   


The call in COBOL caller follows. Notice that the commarea gets displayed 
before and after the call [this is how we know that the response is NOT passed 
back] 

CALL-TPTAPI. 
 
DISPLAY WS-TPTAPI-COMMAREA   
CALL "COB#SYNC"  USING WS-TPTAPI 
   WS-TPTAPI-COMMAREA.   
  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  2 Line(s) no
DISPLAY WS-TPTAPI-COMMAREA.  


The subroutine's PROCEDURE USING:

PROCEDURE DIVISION USING TPTAPI-COMMAREA.

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Re: Q re attaching COBOL program

2013-03-18 Thread Steve Comstock

On 3/18/2013 4:36 PM, Victor Gil wrote:

As I said, the subroutine response via a field in the passed comarea.
The commarea is just ONE parm and the resopnse field is part of the commarea, 
not the RETURN REGISTER

03  TPTAPI-RETURN-PARAMETERS.
 05  TPTAPI-RETURN-CODE   PIC  X(02).
 88  TPTAPI-SUCCESSFULVALUE '00'.
 88  TPTAPI-WARNING   VALUE '04'.
 88  TPTAPI-INVALID-PARM  VALUE '08'.


-Victor-


Hey, chill, man.

You still have not given us enough info.

1. show us your ATTACH(X) invocation
2. show us the code where your Assembler routine is looking at the return value
3. show us your procedure division header
4. show us where your COBOL program sets the return code

we may need more to see the problem, but this is a start

(and, no, LE is not making local copies of your parameter).


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SyncSort sortin different record length

2013-03-18 Thread Micheal Burn
Hi

Would anyone know if SyncSort accepts Sortinn (multiple sortins)
With different record lengths

Thanks

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Re: Q re attaching COBOL program

2013-03-18 Thread Victor Gil
As I said, the subroutine response via a field in the passed comarea.
The commarea is just ONE parm and the resopnse field is part of the commarea, 
not the RETURN REGISTER

03  TPTAPI-RETURN-PARAMETERS.   
05  TPTAPI-RETURN-CODE   PIC  X(02).
88  TPTAPI-SUCCESSFULVALUE '00'.
88  TPTAPI-WARNING   VALUE '04'.
88  TPTAPI-INVALID-PARM  VALUE '08'.


-Victor-

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Re: Long Passwords

2013-03-18 Thread Skip Robinson
We ESPed the release that introduced mixed case passwords and phrases; 1.7 
I believe. We tested on our sandbox under controlled conditions and were 
satisfied that the new features worked as expected. However, we never went 
to production for reasons already suggested:

1  No support *at that time* from CA TPX. We never found any other 
application that would not have worked, but TPX was enough. 

2 Difficulty of falling back to old password rules once a password had 
been changed to mixed case. We would have had to manually set the password 
back to upper case in order to be usable.

TPX apparently now supports mixed case and phrases. Number 2 is still a 
major buzz kill. Given the huge number of possible upper case password 
permutations including letters, numbers, and nationals, and given the 
severe limit on password tries before revocation, we could not justify 
such a sizable risk. 

As for SSO,  those folks who logon to mainframe and some other platform 
can easily chose an 8 character password with mixed case for Windows, 
Unix, etc., and use the same password on mainframe with no ill effects 
because mainframe logon will translate the entered password into upper 
case transparently. 

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From:   Don Poitras 
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Date:   03/18/2013 12:43 PM
Subject:Re: Long Passwords
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We added to SAS. It will be in the next release.

In article 
 you 
wrote:
> This is VERY true. The application will have to support it. However, the
> world seems to be moving to SSO and if it is to get there... then z/os 
will
> have to play on the long password field. I expect most, if not all,
> standard IBM products will use either in time.

> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 3:23 PM, R.S. 
wrote:

> > W dniu 2013-03-18 20:16, Toole, Michael pisze:
> >
> >> So you're only using them for TSO?  I thought you would have to use 
them
> >> for everything if you turned them on?
> >>
> >
> > It CANNOT be used "for everything".
> > Reason: some of "everything" do not support long passwords.
> >
> > IMHO it is an issue for "unwashed masses" of regular users, not 
technical
> > staff. And most of regular users use ONE application (CICS or IMS), so 
they
> > are not interested in ftp, TSO, NETVIEW or JCL.
> >
> >
> >
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GDPS PPRC Vs GDPS HyperSwap manager

2013-03-18 Thread Nir Eliyaho
Hi list,

We are looking into GDPS and I have a few questions regarding the differences 
between the solutions.

We have 2 adjecnt sites, each have a CPC and a storage controller (PPRC 
replication).
The production environment is crossed between the sites in a parallel sysplex 
data sharing configuration.

As I understand implementing basic hyperswap / GDPS hyperswap offerings will 
provide storage controller HA and DR solutions
so what are the advantages of implementing GDPS/PPRC offering? 

What extra benefits will we receive ?

I looked in the redbook "GDPS Family: An Introduction to Concepts and 
Capabilities" and found that the main differences are:
"Production system automation" and "GDPS Scripting" what does it mean ? What I 
won't be able to do ?

When I'll want to add 3rd site to the configuration would it matter ? (beside 
that I'll then need to implement automation and
GDPS scripting... but this can be done at a later time...)

Many thanks in advanced.

Nir

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Re: Q re attaching COBOL program

2013-03-18 Thread Steve Comstock

On 3/18/2013 2:29 PM, Victor Gil wrote:

We have a need to call a COBOL subroutine by attaching it as a subtask, so
the  call is done through an Assembler stub that issues the Attach, Waits on the

termination ECB and Detaches the subtask.


The subroutine gets the parms, does what it's job and returns back with an
RCfield which is a part of the passed structure.

However, the caller *does not* see this RC!

Is the LE making a local copy of the parms? And if yes - how to workaround this 
issue?

TIA,
-Victor-



Sounds like you possiblye are not passing and receiving the structure
in the same way.

If your COBOL program is moving the return code value into
the RC field in your structure, but on return you do not
see the value: are you passing by reference or by content?
are you receiving by reference or by content?

On the other hand, if your COBOL program is just setting
the RETURN-CODE special register, that value is not passed
back in your passed structure automatically.

So it would help to see some code: how your Assembler routine
sets up the passed parms and how it examines these after the
CALL; then how your COBOL routine sees the passed parms (show
us the linkage section, the using statement, and the point in
the code where you think RC is getting set.



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Q re attaching COBOL program

2013-03-18 Thread Victor Gil
We have a need to call a COBOL subroutine by attaching it as a subtask, so the 
call is done through an Assembler stub that issues the Attach, Waits on the 
termination ECB and Detaches the subtask.

The subroutine gets the parms, does what it's job and returns back with an RC 
field which is a part of the passed structure.

However, the caller *does not* see this RC!

Is the LE making a local copy of the parms? And if yes - how to workaround this 
issue?

TIA,
-Victor-  

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Re: Long Passwords

2013-03-18 Thread Don Poitras
We added to SAS. It will be in the next release.

In article  
you wrote:
> This is VERY true. The application will have to support it. However, the
> world seems to be moving to SSO and if it is to get there... then z/os will
> have to play on the long password field. I expect most, if not all,
> standard IBM products will use either in time.

> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 3:23 PM, R.S. wrote:

> > W dniu 2013-03-18 20:16, Toole, Michael pisze:
> >
> >> So you're only using them for TSO?  I thought you would have to use them
> >> for everything if you turned them on?
> >>
> >
> > It CANNOT be used "for everything".
> > Reason: some of "everything" do not support long passwords.
> >
> > IMHO it is an issue for "unwashed masses" of regular users, not technical
> > staff. And most of regular users use ONE application (CICS or IMS), so they
> > are not interested in ftp, TSO, NETVIEW or JCL.
> >
> >
> >
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> > Lodz, Poland

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Re: Long Passwords

2013-03-18 Thread Keith Smith
This is VERY true. The application will have to support it. However, the
world seems to be moving to SSO and if it is to get there... then z/os will
have to play on the long password field. I expect most, if not all,
standard IBM products will use either in time.

On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 3:23 PM, R.S. wrote:

> W dniu 2013-03-18 20:16, Toole, Michael pisze:
>
>> So you're only using them for TSO?  I thought you would have to use them
>> for everything if you turned them on?
>>
>
> It CANNOT be used "for everything".
> Reason: some of "everything" do not support long passwords.
>
> IMHO it is an issue for "unwashed masses" of regular users, not technical
> staff. And most of regular users use ONE application (CICS or IMS), so they
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Re: Long Passwords

2013-03-18 Thread Keith Smith
Well if we are talking the same thing either works. Password or Password
Phrase.

 USER=xx  NAME=yyy  OWNER=  CREATED=09.300
  DEFAULT-GROUP=SYS1 PASSDATE=13.036 PASS-INTERVAL= 90
PHRASEDATE=13.073
  ATTRIBUTES=PASSPHRASE


after adding passphrase to the ID and changing SYS1.PARMLIB(IKJTSO00) to
add:

LOGON   /* LOGON PARMS   */  +
   PASSPHRASE(ON)   /* TURN ON LOG PASSWORDS */

We can no log-on with either the original 8 digit max password or the new
passphrase of up to 100 characters. I have not tested up to 100, but the
field seems to hold it wrapping to the next line. I tested a 21 character
password.

Regards,
Keith

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> So you're only using them for TSO?  I thought you would have to use them
> for everything if you turned them on?
>
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> We are just getting started. It seems to work okay. It was a simple change
> to implement it for TSO. Looks like FTP will only work 1.13 and higher and
> I have not looked at CICS yet. I am interested to hear from others as well.
>
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>
> > Is anybody using password phrases or in some other way using passwords
> > longer than 8 characters on z/OS?
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> > If so, could you share your experience?
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Re: Query for Destination z article -- mainframes back to the future

2013-03-18 Thread Gibney, Dave
The longer it takes to figure out the problem, the more likely it will be 
bloody obvious once it is found :(

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> 
> We used to call this the "any idiot" theory of debugging:
> 
> After working a trans-finite amount of time trying to debug a program,
> any idiot will walk up and immediately point out your error.
> 
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> 
> I have to echo your last line from personal experience:
> 
> If you have looked at a bug for 30 or more minutes, get that second set
> of eyes to look at it pronto.
> 
> Chances are they will spot it in under 30 seconds!  :-)
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> Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
> > Have a plan B.
> 
> And C and D, etc... ;-D
> 
> > Document first, then keep your documentation up to date.
> 
> And have someone else review it.
> 
> And document all and every exits. (source, logic flow and installation
> methods)
> 
> > Don't update the running system.
> 
> Some people did that - at their own risk.
> 
> And P L E A S E Don't INIT a live IPL volser!
> 
> > Use vendor-provided mappings rather than rolling your own.
> 
> Good suggestion, that is, if supplied mapping is available in the first
> place. Think OCO.
> 
> (It took me a long time to obtain SMF mappings from IBM for a certain
> product for which I need to extract accounting info for usage
> analysis... So I ended used both version - vendor and my own.)
> 
> >A few coding techniques for newbies to learn:
> > The use of UNPK and TR for converting to hexadecimal.
> 
> And do that in RENT and REUS modes too. ;-)
> 
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Re: Long Passwords

2013-03-18 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2013-03-18 20:16, Toole, Michael pisze:

So you're only using them for TSO?  I thought you would have to use them for 
everything if you turned them on?


It CANNOT be used "for everything".
Reason: some of "everything" do not support long passwords.

IMHO it is an issue for "unwashed masses" of regular users, not 
technical staff. And most of regular users use ONE application (CICS or 
IMS), so they are not interested in ftp, TSO, NETVIEW or JCL.




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Re: Long Passwords

2013-03-18 Thread Toole, Michael
So you're only using them for TSO?  I thought you would have to use them for 
everything if you turned them on?

Mike
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We are just getting started. It seems to work okay. It was a simple change to 
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not looked at CICS yet. I am interested to hear from others as well.

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> Is anybody using password phrases or in some other way using passwords 
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Re: Long Passwords

2013-03-18 Thread Keith Smith
We are just getting started. It seems to work okay. It was a simple change
to implement it for TSO. Looks like FTP will only work 1.13 and higher and
I have not looked at CICS yet. I am interested to hear from others as well.

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> Is anybody using password phrases or in some other way using passwords
> longer than 8 characters on z/OS?
>
> If so, could you share your experience?
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Long Passwords

2013-03-18 Thread Toole, Michael
Is anybody using password phrases or in some other way using passwords longer 
than 8 characters on z/OS?

If so, could you share your experience?

Mike
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Re: Query for Destination z article -- mainframes back to the future

2013-03-18 Thread Gross, Randall [PRI-1PP]
We used to call this the "any idiot" theory of debugging:

After working a trans-finite amount of time trying to debug a program,
any idiot will walk up and immediately point out your error.

 

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I have to echo your last line from personal experience:

If you have looked at a bug for 30 or more minutes, get that second set
of eyes to look at it pronto. 

Chances are they will spot it in under 30 seconds!  :-)

Bob

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Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
> Have a plan B.

And C and D, etc... ;-D

> Document first, then keep your documentation up to date.

And have someone else review it.

And document all and every exits. (source, logic flow and installation
methods)

> Don't update the running system.

Some people did that - at their own risk.

And P L E A S E Don't INIT a live IPL volser!

> Use vendor-provided mappings rather than rolling your own.

Good suggestion, that is, if supplied mapping is available in the first
place. Think OCO.

(It took me a long time to obtain SMF mappings from IBM for a certain
product for which I need to extract accounting info for usage
analysis... So I ended used both version - vendor and my own.)

>A few coding techniques for newbies to learn:
> The use of UNPK and TR for converting to hexadecimal.

And do that in RENT and REUS modes too. ;-)

I wish to add something too: If you're having trouble debugging
something, an extra pair(s) of eyes is a welcome investment.


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Re: Strange Behaviour with DFRMM and catalog

2013-03-18 Thread Mike Wood
Jerome, Call IBM and report the problem. Seems similar to apar OA35183
There may already be a fix.
With UNCATALOG(Y) or UNCATALOG(S) you should expect data sets to be uncataloged 
if still in the catalog at time of return to scratch.

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Re: BPXBATCH copy to mvs-ds FSUM6259

2013-03-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:05:57 -0700, Donald J. wrote:

>> I suspect that in your case, the data set was not allocated
>> statically in JCL, as in Monika's case, but dynamically
>> by the temsnote script.
>No, one static dataset.  Tivoli situation alerts kick off started
>tasks (all single threaded through same started task name)
>and all use the same .TEMSNOTE z/OS file. $mfile is a 1 line
>single record OMVS file.
> 
I still doubt that you test closely resembles Monika's?  I have no
idea beyond what you state what Tivoli does.  It's easy to
suspect that there more players in the game than you've
describe -- concurrent started tasks, etc.

Are you willing to exhibit the JCL that incurred the error?

Did your JCL contain a static allocation (DD statement) of the
problem data set in a step _after the BPXBATCH step?

Instead, I have simplified Monika's sample JCL:
//
//MONIKAJOB  505303JOB,'Paul Gilmartin',
// MSGLEVEL=(1,1),REGION=0M
//*
//USERCOUTPUT JESDS=ALL,DEFAULT=YES,
//  CLASS=R,PAGEDEF=V0648Z,CHARS=GT12
//*
//STEP01  EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH
//STDOUT   DD  SYSOUT=*
//STDERR   DD  SYSOUT=*
//STDPARM  DD  *
SH cp /etc/services "//TEMP.TEST.DATASET"; sleep 2
/*
//STDENV DD *
_BPX_SHAREAS=YES
_BPX_SPAWN_SCRIPT=YES
/*
//STEP02 EXEC PGM=IEFBR14
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//DD01DD DSN=&SYSUID..TEMP.TEST.DATASET,DISP=SHR
//
 :w ! submit $MVS_HOST

The output:

-sh:0+ cp /etc/services //TEMP.TEST.DATASET 
cp: FSUM6259 target file "//TEMP.TEST.DATASET": EDC5061I An error occurred when 
-sh:0+ sleep 2  

I replaced the script with inline commands.  Do you believe
that makes a difference?

I used an existing UNIX file instead of creating one.  Do you believe
that makes a difference?

If you care to modify the JCL above until it displays the
behavior you report, I'll test it.

Your move,
gil

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Re: mainframe DASD

2013-03-18 Thread R.S.

Rex,
It doesn't matter since all I wrote applies to HDS and EMC as well.

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W dniu 2013-03-18 17:28, Pommier, Rex R. pisze:

Hey Radoslaw,

I read the original request much the same way you did, that Fred is looking to 
get info from EMC (corporate), Hitachi (corporate), and IBM (business partners 
instead of corporate).  In fact, Fred is looking for business partners for each 
of the vendors.  I sent him the name of an IBM BP that I've worked with in the 
past and he is also looking for BPs for the other two as well.

Rex

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W dniu 2013-03-18 16:20, Fred Lupher pisze:

We are preparing an RFP for a mainframe DASD upgrade, and we'd like to
send the RFP to EMC, Hitachi & IBM business partners.  Does anyone
know where I might find a list of business partners?


I think, you don't need the list, otherwise you would be interested in polish 
partners - are you? ;-)

I would suggest to simply ask IBM about 2-3 business partners from your region 
with proper authorisation.

BTW: in such RFP you ask business partner, but in fact you play with IBM, the prices are 
set there. Business partner's "value added" is marginal IMHO.

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Re: exit add in progxx for cnz_wtomdbexit and setprog

2013-03-18 Thread Rob Scott
A couple of things to watch out for : 

(1) Did you check LOGREC for any abends in your exit?
(2) Did you remember to use branch-entry WTO for your message?

I must admit issuing a WTO from with CNZ_WTOMDBEXIT would make me nervous about 
an endless loop if the code logic was not water-tight. 

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Subject: Re: exit add in progxx for cnz_wtomdbexit and setprog

Elardus,

IBM® has defined the CNZ_WTOMDBEXIT exit to the dynamic exits facility.
I wrote my own code.
There is no difference in the display, before I deleted it, and after I added 
it via the setprog command.
I know that it was not called , because it contains a WTO to signal the 
beginnig of the code.

Thanks, Regards
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Re: exit add in progxx for cnz_wtomdbexit and setprog

2013-03-18 Thread Bernard Coeytaux
Elardus,

IBM® has defined the CNZ_WTOMDBEXIT exit to the dynamic exits facility.
I wrote my own code.
There is no difference in the display, before I deleted it, and after I added 
it via the setprog command.
I know that it was not called , because it contains a WTO to signal the 
beginnig of the code.

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Re: exit add in progxx for cnz_wtomdbexit and setprog

2013-03-18 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Bernard Coeytaux wrote:

>The lmod WMXEXIT1 is located in  SYS1.BPER.LINKLIB

What is the product? Do you have any sources?

>However the exit is not called !

How do you know it? Do you expect results when exit is called eventually?

>After having done s MVS command setprog exit,delete and setprog exit,add the 
>exit was really called.

How do the 'D PROG ' displays differ between each stage?

>Is there a chance that this particulary exit cannot be specified in a prog 
>member used only at IPL ?

Depending on your product, is the exit defined as static or dynamic (think of 
SMF exits for example)?

What calling conventions are used upon entry of that exit?

For SMF: nearly all SMF Exits are dynamic, unless you don't want it that way.
For RACF: only one exit is dynamic, rest are static and only loadable with IPL.
etc.

So, it depends on what product and what are any limits, if any, are imposed on 
it.

Groete / Greetings
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Re: mainframe DASD

2013-03-18 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Hey Radoslaw,

I read the original request much the same way you did, that Fred is looking to 
get info from EMC (corporate), Hitachi (corporate), and IBM (business partners 
instead of corporate).  In fact, Fred is looking for business partners for each 
of the vendors.  I sent him the name of an IBM BP that I've worked with in the 
past and he is also looking for BPs for the other two as well.

Rex

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W dniu 2013-03-18 16:20, Fred Lupher pisze:
> We are preparing an RFP for a mainframe DASD upgrade, and we'd like to
> send the RFP to EMC, Hitachi & IBM business partners.  Does anyone
> know where I might find a list of business partners?

I think, you don't need the list, otherwise you would be interested in polish 
partners - are you? ;-)

I would suggest to simply ask IBM about 2-3 business partners from your region 
with proper authorisation.

BTW: in such RFP you ask business partner, but in fact you play with IBM, the 
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Re: mainframe DASD

2013-03-18 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2013-03-18 16:20, Fred Lupher pisze:

We are preparing an RFP for a mainframe DASD upgrade, and we'd like
to send the RFP to EMC, Hitachi & IBM business partners.  Does anyone
know where I might find a list of business partners?


I think, you don't need the list, otherwise you would be interested in 
polish partners - are you? ;-)


I would suggest to simply ask IBM about 2-3 business partners from your 
region with proper authorisation.


BTW: in such RFP you ask business partner, but in fact you play with 
IBM, the prices are set there. Business partner's "value added" is 
marginal IMHO.


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Re: BPXBATCH copy to mvs-ds FSUM6259

2013-03-18 Thread Donald J.
> I suspect that in your case, the data set was not allocated
> statically in JCL, as in Monika's case, but dynamically
> by the temsnote script.
No, one static dataset.  Tivoli situation alerts kick off started
tasks (all single threaded through same started task name)
and all use the same .TEMSNOTE z/OS file. $mfile is a 1 line
single record OMVS file.
-- 
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On Mon, Mar 18, 2013, at 07:55 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 07:37:25 -0700, Donald J. wrote:
> 
> >I was getting same error in a TEMS script I wrote.
> >The sleep fixed it (much of the time, but not every time).
> > 
> I doubt that it was "the same error".
> 
> >#
> ># Invoke Alert Script & set RC to 1 if email is to be sent
> >/u/appl/temsnote/sh/$1.sh $1 "$2"
> >returncode=$?
> >#
> I suspect that in your case, the data set was not allocated
> statically in JCL, as in Monika's case, but dynamically
> by the temsnote script.
> 
> ># Wait for de-allocation, then copy file
> >sleep 2
> >cp $mfile "//'UTIL.OMS.V420.OMS1.TEMSNOTE'"
> >sleep 2
> > 
> The sleep before the cp may have helped; I doubt that the
> sleep after the cp made any difference; seems to violate
> causality.
> 
> >I still get the error on a very small percent of the time:
> >cp: FSUM6259 target file "//'UTIL.OMS.V420.OMS1.TEMSNOTE'":
> >EDC5061I An error occurred when attempting to define a file to the
> >system.--
> >   
> (For coloro che sanno:  Is it possible for DYNALLOC FREE to return
> to its caller before the DEQ is complete?  If so, I'd consider it an
> APARable defect; otherwise Donald's code is deficient in performing
> the FREE in the background and returning to its caller without
> waiting for completion.)
> 
> -- gil
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exit add in progxx for cnz_wtomdbexit and setprog

2013-03-18 Thread Bernard Coeytaux
I use in my progxx member :

SYSLIB LINKLIB(SYS1.BPER.LINKLIB)
EXIT ADD EXITNAME(CNZ_WTOMDBEXIT) MODNAME(WMXEXIT1) 

The lmod WMXEXIT1 is located in  SYS1.BPER.LINKLIB


After ipl is finished, the command "D PROG,EXIT,EX=CNZ_WTOMDBEXIT,DIAG" shows 
all good !

CSV464I 11.39.53 PROG,EXIT DISPLAY 803
EXIT CNZ_WTOMDBEXIT   
MODULESTATE EPADDRLOADPTLENGTHJOBNAME   PARAM 
WMXEXIT1A   94AD3920  14AD3920  16E0  *   


However the exit is not called !

After having done s MVS command setprog exit,delete and setprog exit,add the 
exit was really called.

Is there a chance that this particulary exit cannot be specified in a prog 
member used only at IPL ?

Thanks and regards

Bernard Coeytaux

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Re: smpe receive issue IKJ56228I

2013-03-18 Thread Greg Dorner
No, it won't unless you insert IBM. after DB.CFED in your data set names.
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Re: smpe receive issue IKJ56228I

2013-03-18 Thread Greg Dorner
Does this work?

RECEIVE SYSMODS RFPREFIX(DB.CFED).

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mainframe DASD

2013-03-18 Thread Fred Lupher
We are preparing an RFP for a mainframe DASD upgrade, and we'd like to send the 
RFP to EMC, Hitachi & IBM business partners.  Does anyone know where I might 
find a list of business partners? 
Thanks

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Re: BPXBATCH copy to mvs-ds FSUM6259

2013-03-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 07:37:25 -0700, Donald J. wrote:

>I was getting same error in a TEMS script I wrote.
>The sleep fixed it (much of the time, but not every time).
> 
I doubt that it was "the same error".

>#
># Invoke Alert Script & set RC to 1 if email is to be sent
>/u/appl/temsnote/sh/$1.sh $1 "$2"
>returncode=$?
>#
I suspect that in your case, the data set was not allocated
statically in JCL, as in Monika's case, but dynamically
by the temsnote script.

># Wait for de-allocation, then copy file
>sleep 2
>cp $mfile "//'UTIL.OMS.V420.OMS1.TEMSNOTE'"
>sleep 2
> 
The sleep before the cp may have helped; I doubt that the
sleep after the cp made any difference; seems to violate
causality.

>I still get the error on a very small percent of the time:
>cp: FSUM6259 target file "//'UTIL.OMS.V420.OMS1.TEMSNOTE'":
>EDC5061I An error occurred when attempting to define a file to the
>system.--
>   
(For coloro che sanno:  Is it possible for DYNALLOC FREE to return
to its caller before the DEQ is complete?  If so, I'd consider it an
APARable defect; otherwise Donald's code is deficient in performing
the FREE in the background and returning to its caller without
waiting for completion.)

-- gil

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Strange Behaviour with DFRMM and catalog

2013-03-18 Thread Jerome k
Hi,
Freshly migrated from TLMS to DFRMM, everything work perfectly except one thing 
:
Logical tapes(VTS) that have been scratched due to VRS, if a check the 
Usercatalog, the dataset belonging to scratched tapes are still cataloged !!!
I can't explain why, this sound weird to me, maybe i use some wrong option ?
Note that we are at Zos1.9 and we share usercatalog beetween several LPAR.

If someone as an idea to explain that ?
I feel alone with my redbooks

Regards,
Jérôme


RMM LISTCONTROL ALL
Control record:
Type = MASTERCreate date = 12/03/2013  Create time = 11:49:30  
 Update date = 18/03/2013  Update time = 13:47:17  
Journal: Utilization =   0% (75% threshold) STATUS: = ENABLED  
CDS: Utilization =   5%
Exit status:Options:   
  EDGUX100 = ENABLED  Stacked Volumes = ENABLED
  EDGUX200 = NONE Extended Bin= ENABLED
  EDGUX300 = NONE Common Time = DISABLED   
  CDSID ENQ name  = ENABLED
System options:  
PARMLIB Suffix  = R0 
Operating mode  = PRetention period: Default = 7   Maximum = NOLIMIT 
 Catalog = 1 hours   
Control data set name  = RMM.CDS
Journal file data set name = .RMM.JRNL   
Journal threshold  = 75% 
Catalog SYSID  = *   
Scratch procedure name = EDGXPROC
Backup procedure name  = EDGBCKUP
IPL date check  = NDate format= E   RACF support   = N   
SMF audit   = 248  SMF security   = 249 CDS id = MASTER  
MAXHOLD value   = 100  Lines per page = 54  System ID  = SYSA   
BLP = RMM  TVEXT purge= RELEASE Notify = Y   
Uncatalog   = YVRS job name   = 2   Message case   = M   
MASTER overwrite= LAST Accounting = J   VRS selection  = NEW 
VRS change  = INFO VRSMIN action  = WARNVRSMIN count   = 100 
Disp DD name= LOANDD   Disp msg ID= EDG4054I 
Retain by   = VOLUME   Move by= VOLUME  CMDAUTH Owner  = YES 
PREACS  = NO   SMSACS = NO  CMDAUTH Dsn= NO  
Reuse bin   = STARTMOVE Media name = 3490
Local tasks= 10  
PDA: OFF 
 Block count= 255  Block size = 31  Log= OFF 
 Update scratch = YES  Update command = YES Update exits   = YES
 Purge  = YES   

Rack Prefix  Access type  
---  ---  
*NONE   


 

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Re: BPXBATCH copy to mvs-ds FSUM6259

2013-03-18 Thread Donald J.
I was getting same error in a TEMS script I wrote.
The sleep fixed it (much of the time, but not every time).

# 
# Invoke Alert Script & set RC to 1 if email is to be sent
/u/appl/temsnote/sh/$1.sh $1 "$2" 
returncode=$? 
# 
# Wait for de-allocation, then copy file  
sleep 2   
cp $mfile "//'UTIL.OMS.V420.OMS1.TEMSNOTE'"   
sleep 2   

I still get the error on a very small percent of the time:
cp: FSUM6259 target file "//'UTIL.OMS.V420.OMS1.TEMSNOTE'": 
EDC5061I An error occurred when attempting to define a file to the
system.-- 
  Donald J.
  dona...@4email.net


On Mon, Mar 18, 2013, at 07:12 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 05:12:59 -0700, Donald J. wrote:
> 
> >Try putting a "sleep 2" after the cp.
> > 
> Are you a betting man?
> 
> 
> >On Fri, Mar 15, 2013, at 08:33 AM, Monika Amiss wrote:
> >> Dear Group,
> >>
> >> But if I run it with STEP01 and STEP02, I get in STEP01 () the
> >> following error message:
> >>  cp: FSUM6259 target file "//'TEST.DATASET'": EDC5061I An error occurred
> >>  when attempting to define a file to the system.
> 
> -- gil
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Re: BPXBATCH copy to mvs-ds FSUM6259

2013-03-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:26:55 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote:

>Using "/DD:" when running BPXBATCH?  (the shell runs in a separate address
>space)
>
>If you use a tool that runs the shell script in the same address space,
>then you can use either a DD or a DSN (dynamic allocation in the same
>address space won't conflict with the initiator ENQ since it is the same
>address space).
> 
I stand corrected.  I had my Rexx glasses on and was envisioning
BPXWDYN; _BPX_SHAREAS=YES; cp ... "DD:...".  Again, I counsel
against using unsupported argument forms.  Caveat emptor.

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Re: BPXBATCH copy to mvs-ds FSUM6259

2013-03-18 Thread Kirk Wolf
Using "/DD:" when running BPXBATCH?  (the shell runs in a separate address
space)

If you use a tool that runs the shell script in the same address space,
then you can use either a DD or a DSN (dynamic allocation in the same
address space won't conflict with the initiator ENQ since it is the same
address space).

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com

PS> the mvs-oe forum used to be nearly completely dedicated to problems
like this, search the archives ;-)

On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:

> On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:01:34 +0100, Michael Klaeschen wrote:
>
> >In JES3 this works as designed: With MDS [JES3 Main Device Scheduler], the
> >resources (data sets, devices, and volumes) that a job requires are
> >already set up when the job is passed to MVS for execution. (cmp. chapter
> >4.3.1.2 of JES3 Initialization and Tuning Guide). JCL DISP=SHR indicates
> >that the data set exists before this step (cmp MVS JCL Reference).
> >Assuming TEST.DATASET does not exist prior to job submit. Then, JES3 MDS
> >has to allocate the data set before the job starts in order to fulfill
> >DISP=SHR. So, did you try adding STEP00 with IEFBR14 to allocate
> >DSN=TEST.DATASET with DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE) instead of "predefining"
> >(how exactly??) it in the shell script?
> >
> Still won't work as long as the "cp" runs in a different address space.
> Kirk's suggestion is promising, but proliferates prerequisites.
>
> I thought MDS would fail the job if a required data set did not exist.
> So, I conclude that Monika is using JES2.
>
> Can Monika try a separate IEFBR14 step between STEP01 and STEP02?
>
> Using the "//DD..." construct as an argument to "cp" is reported to
> work, but is undocumented and unsupported.
>
> -- gil
>
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Re: BPXBATCH copy to mvs-ds FSUM6259

2013-03-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:01:34 +0100, Michael Klaeschen wrote:

>In JES3 this works as designed: With MDS [JES3 Main Device Scheduler], the 
>resources (data sets, devices, and volumes) that a job requires are 
>already set up when the job is passed to MVS for execution. (cmp. chapter 
>4.3.1.2 of JES3 Initialization and Tuning Guide). JCL DISP=SHR indicates 
>that the data set exists before this step (cmp MVS JCL Reference). 
>Assuming TEST.DATASET does not exist prior to job submit. Then, JES3 MDS 
>has to allocate the data set before the job starts in order to fulfill 
>DISP=SHR. So, did you try adding STEP00 with IEFBR14 to allocate 
>DSN=TEST.DATASET with DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE) instead of "predefining" 
>(how exactly??) it in the shell script? 
>  
Still won't work as long as the "cp" runs in a different address space.
Kirk's suggestion is promising, but proliferates prerequisites.

I thought MDS would fail the job if a required data set did not exist.
So, I conclude that Monika is using JES2.

Can Monika try a separate IEFBR14 step between STEP01 and STEP02?

Using the "//DD..." construct as an argument to "cp" is reported to
work, but is undocumented and unsupported.

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Re: Query for Destination z article -- mainframes back to the future

2013-03-18 Thread Richards, Robert B.
I have to echo your last line from personal experience:

If you have looked at a bug for 30 or more minutes, get that second set of eyes 
to look at it pronto. 

Chances are they will spot it in under 30 seconds!  :-)

Bob

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Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
> Have a plan B.

And C and D, etc... ;-D

> Document first, then keep your documentation up to date.

And have someone else review it.

And document all and every exits. (source, logic flow and installation methods)

> Don't update the running system.

Some people did that - at their own risk.

And P L E A S E Don't INIT a live IPL volser!

> Use vendor-provided mappings rather than rolling your own.

Good suggestion, that is, if supplied mapping is available in the first place. 
Think OCO.

(It took me a long time to obtain SMF mappings from IBM for a certain product 
for which I need to extract accounting info for usage analysis... So I ended 
used both version - vendor and my own.)

>A few coding techniques for newbies to learn:
> The use of UNPK and TR for converting to hexadecimal.

And do that in RENT and REUS modes too. ;-)

I wish to add something too: If you're having trouble debugging something, an 
extra pair(s) of eyes is a welcome investment.


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Re: BPXBATCH copy to mvs-ds FSUM6259

2013-03-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 05:12:59 -0700, Donald J. wrote:

>Try putting a "sleep 2" after the cp.
> 
Are you a betting man?


>On Fri, Mar 15, 2013, at 08:33 AM, Monika Amiss wrote:
>> Dear Group,
>>
>> But if I run it with STEP01 and STEP02, I get in STEP01 () the
>> following error message:
>>  cp: FSUM6259 target file "//'TEST.DATASET'": EDC5061I An error occurred
>>  when attempting to define a file to the system.

-- gil

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Re: BPXBATCH copy to mvs-ds FSUM6259

2013-03-18 Thread Michael Klaeschen
In JES3 this works as designed: With MDS [JES3 Main Device Scheduler], the 
resources (data sets, devices, and volumes) that a job requires are 
already set up when the job is passed to MVS for execution. (cmp. chapter 
4.3.1.2 of JES3 Initialization and Tuning Guide). JCL DISP=SHR indicates 
that the data set exists before this step (cmp MVS JCL Reference). 
Assuming TEST.DATASET does not exist prior to job submit. Then, JES3 MDS 
has to allocate the data set before the job starts in order to fulfill 
DISP=SHR. So, did you try adding STEP00 with IEFBR14 to allocate 
DSN=TEST.DATASET with DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE) instead of "predefining" 
(how exactly??) it in the shell script? 

Cheers
Michael




Von:Monika Amiss 
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Dear Group,

 I have a strange behavior. In the first step I call an Shellscript which 
does a 
cp /user/tmp.txt "//'TEST.DATASET'". 
The TEST.DATASET ist predefined and empty.
If I run only Step01 everything is Okay, the TEST.DATASET is filled with 
the data.
But if I run it with STEP01 and STEP02, I get in STEP01 () the 
following error
message:
 cp: FSUM6259 target file "//'TEST.DATASET'": EDC5061I An error occurred 
when attempting to define a file to the system. 

//STEP01  EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH 
//STDOUT   DD  SYSOUT=* 
//STDERR   DD  SYSOUT=* 
//STDPARM  DD  * 
SH /user/copy.sh 
/* 
//STDENV DD * 
_BPX_SHAREAS=YES 
_BPX_SPAWN_SCRIPT=YES 
/* 
//STEP02 EXEC PGM=TESTLEER 
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* 
//DD01DD DSN=TEST.DATASET,DISP=SHR 
// 

We're running z/OS1.12 & JES3.
Somebody has an idea? Any hint appreciated.
With best regards
Monika

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Re: Query for Destination z article -- mainframes back to the future

2013-03-18 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
> Have a plan B.

And C and D, etc... ;-D

> Document first, then keep your documentation up to date.

And have someone else review it.

And document all and every exits. (source, logic flow and installation methods)

> Don't update the running system.

Some people did that - at their own risk.

And P L E A S E Don't INIT a live IPL volser!

> Use vendor-provided mappings rather than rolling your own.

Good suggestion, that is, if supplied mapping is available in the first place. 
Think OCO.

(It took me a long time to obtain SMF mappings from IBM for a certain product 
for which I need to extract accounting info for usage analysis... So I ended 
used both version - vendor and my own.)

>A few coding techniques for newbies to learn:
> The use of UNPK and TR for converting to hexadecimal.

And do that in RENT and REUS modes too. ;-)

I wish to add something too: If you're having trouble debugging something, an 
extra pair(s) of eyes is a welcome investment.

Groete / Greetings
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Re: BPXBATCH copy to mvs-ds FSUM6259

2013-03-18 Thread Donald J.
Try putting a "sleep 2" after the cp.
-- 
  Donald J.
  dona...@4email.net


On Fri, Mar 15, 2013, at 08:33 AM, Monika Amiss wrote:
> Dear Group,
> 
>  I have a strange behavior. In the first step I call an Shellscript which
>  does a 
> cp /user/tmp.txt "//'TEST.DATASET'". 
> The TEST.DATASET ist predefined and empty.
> If I run only Step01 everything is Okay, the TEST.DATASET is filled with
> the data.
> But if I run it with STEP01 and STEP02, I get in STEP01 () the
> following error
> message:
>  cp: FSUM6259 target file "//'TEST.DATASET'": EDC5061I An error occurred
>  when attempting to define a file to the system.  
> 
> //STEP01  EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH
> //STDOUT   DD  SYSOUT=*
> //STDERR   DD  SYSOUT=*
> //STDPARM  DD  *   
> SH /user/copy.sh 
> /* 
> //STDENV DD *  
> _BPX_SHAREAS=YES   
> _BPX_SPAWN_SCRIPT=YES  
> /* 
> //STEP02 EXEC PGM=TESTLEER   
> //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* 
> //DD01DD DSN=TEST.DATASET,DISP=SHR   
> //   
> 
> We're running z/OS1.12 & JES3.
> Somebody has an idea? Any hint appreciated.
> With best regards
> Monika
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Re: Netview Script Not authorized -CNM424I

2013-03-18 Thread Mike Wawiorko
CNM424I COMMAND LIST TIMEMNGR - ACCESS TO COMMAND IS NOT AUTHORIZED
   *-* 'purge timer='f.i',op=ppt'
   +++ RC(-3) +++

I suspect your NetView command security rules do not allow you to purge timers 
scheduled in the NetView PPT.

Look in CNMSCAT2.

BNH229I CMDAUTH   TABLE 03/13/13 02:17:52   INITIALIZATION
BNH229I TBLNAME   CNMSCAT2  03/13/13 02:17:52   INITIALIZATION


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Sent: 18 March 2013 05:58
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Subject: Netview Script Not authorized -CNM424I

Hello,

   I am trying running netview script from Netview Main panel but getting 
below error.

CNM424I COMMAND LIST TIMEMNGR - ACCESS TO COMMAND IS NOT AUTHORIZED
   *-* 'purge timer='f.i',op=ppt'
   +++ RC(-3) +++

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Re: Netview Script Not authorized -CNM424I

2013-03-18 Thread Mark Regan
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 From: saurabh khandelwal 
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 1:57 AM
Subject: Netview Script Not authorized -CNM424I
 
Hello,

       I am trying running netview script from Netview Main panel but
getting below error.

CNM424I COMMAND LIST TIMEMNGR - ACCESS TO COMMAND IS NOT AUTHORIZED
       *-*     'purge timer='f.i',op=ppt'
       +++ RC(-3) +++
CNM424I COMMAND LIST TIMEMNGR - ACCESS TO COMMAND IS NOT AUTHORIZED
       *-*     'purge timer='f.i',op=ppt'
       +++ RC(-3) +++
DSI204I TIMER REQUEST ID NOT UNIQUE  ID = 'DC39'
DSI202I TIMER REQUEST FAILED TO BE SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION 'ID=DC39
DSI204I TIMER REQUEST ID NOT UNIQUE  ID = 'DC40'
DSI202I TIMER REQUEST FAILED TO BE SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION 'ID=DC40
CNM424I COMMAND LIST TIMEMNGR - ACCESS TO COMMAND IS NOT AUTHORIZED
       *-*     'purge timer='f.i',op=ppt'
       +++ RC(-3) +++
CNM424I COMMAND LIST TIMEMNGR - ACCESS TO COMMAND IS NOT AUTHORIZED
       *-*     'purge timer='f.i',op=ppt'

Then, I have checked couple of thing in my SYSTEM for netview definition.
some of them are below.


1)  list secopts  O/P

BNH228I OPTION        VALUE         LAST UPDATED            UPDATE ID
BNH229I ---             -       --
BNH229I OPERSEC       NETVPW        03/13/13 02:17:52       INITIALIZATION
BNH229I OPSPAN        NETV          03/13/13 02:17:52       INITIALIZATION
BNH229I CMDAUTH       TABLE         03/13/13 02:17:52       INITIALIZATION
BNH229I TBLNAME       CNMSCAT2      03/13/13 02:17:52       INITIALIZATION
BNH229I AUTHCHK       SOURCEID      03/13/13 02:17:52       INITIALIZATION
BNH229I SPANAUTH      NONE          03/13/13 02:17:49       INITIALIZATION
BNH229I SPANCHK       SOURCEID      03/13/13 02:17:52       INITIALIZATION
BNH229I CATAUDIT      NONE          03/13/13 02:17:49       INITIALIZATION
BNH229I AUTOSEC       BYPASS        03/13/13 02:17:53       INITIALIZATION
BNH229I SURROGAT      NO            03/13/13 02:17:52       INITIALIZATION
BNH229I RMTSEC        NONE          03/13/13 02:17:54       INITIALIZATION
BNH229I RMTAUTH       SENDER        03/13/13 02:17:52       INITIALIZATION
BNH229I WEBAUTH       PASS          03/13/13 02:17:52       INITIALIZATION

In  NETVIEW.DSIPARM(CSTYLE) we have NETVPW active, as we have defined
operator in

SECOPTS.OPERSEC = NETVPW
*SECOPTS.OPERSEC = SAFCHECK
*SECOPTS.OPERSEC = SAFPW
*SECOPTS.OPERSEC = SAFDEF
*SECOPTS.OPERSEC = MINIMAL

NETVIEW.DSIPARM(DSIOPFU)

TEST      OPERATOR    PASSWORD= 
             PROFILEN    MASTER

Then, I created   MASTER profile under  NETVIEW.DSIPRF, because I am not
able to find other profiles DSIPROFB in my any members.


MASTER       PROFILE  IC=LOGPROF2
             AUTH     MSGRECVR=NO,CTL=GLOBAL,NGMFADMN=YES
             END

Now, I have  two issues to address here.


1) Why I am not able to run scripts using netview main panel and getting
authorization issue.

2) I also want to convert my operator defination from DSIOPFU member to
RACF. So that NETIVEW can use RACF secuirty for accessing NETVIEW DOMAIN
rather then
   DSIOPFU member in DSIPARM.


For doing this, I tried reading Security refrence for NETVIEW book and
followed below stpes to create new operator for accessing NEWVIEW.
Change  SECOPTS.OPERSEC = SAFDEF  in DAIPARM and commented NETVPW line

1) SETROPTS CLASSACT(APPL)

2)RDEFINE APPL NETM9 UACC(NONE)

3) ADDUSER TEST1 PASSWORD(NEWOPER)

4) PERMIT NETM9 CLASS(APPL) ID(TEST1) ACCESS(READ)

5) and added below detail for TEST1 user id

NETVIEW INFORMATION
---
CTL= GLOBAL
MSGRECVR= YES
NGMFADMN= YES

but still when I am trying to access Netview using SKHAND2 user id , then
I am getting below error on netview panel.

1) DSI021A INVALID OPERATOR IDENTIFICATION, REENTER

2) I also noticed that, my netview start was failing and seen below error
message on SYSLOG.

ICH408I USER(NETM9PPT) GROUP(        ) NAME(???                 ) 354
  LOGON/JOB INITIATION - USER AT TERMINAL          NOT RACF-DEFINED
IRR012I  VERIFICATION FAILED. USER PROFILE NOT FOUND.

I am not able to find this user in my NETM9PPT RACF .

Please suggest.

Regards
Saurabh

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Re: Parameter list changes between calling and called program

2013-03-18 Thread Miklos Szigetvari

On 18.03.2013 09:38, jan de decker wrote:

Hi,


In the copy/paste from my preious mail, I skipped the line:

  LR  RB,RF so that RB points to the top of my CSECT


Sorry about that.


Best regards,


j@n

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A SLIP SA trap would be a possibility to DUMP at storage alternation (as 
already suggested)


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Re: Parameter list changes between calling and called program

2013-03-18 Thread jan de decker
Hi,


In the copy/paste from my preious mail, I skipped the line:

 LR  RB,RF so that RB points to the top of my CSECT


Sorry about that.


Best regards,


j@n

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Re: Parameter list changes between calling and called program

2013-03-18 Thread jan de decker
Hi,

Sorry about the error in the copy/paste from my previous mail.


I skipped the line

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