Re: IBM now employs more workers in India than US

2013-10-18 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2013-10-17 17:29, Eric Bielefeld pisze:
[...]
 Most of the people I talked to had good English, but it's not the 
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Well, isn't it obvious? Good English  American English
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Who speaks proper ???

2013-10-18 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Fri, 18 Oct 2013 10:22:35 +0200, R.S. wrote:

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And he's complaining about American English 
:eek:

s ... Radoslaw  actually wrote:

Well, isn't it obvious? Good English  American English
;-)

... and who am I to argue ?.

Shane ... ;-)

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Re: An IPCS question

2013-10-18 Thread Hardee, Chuck
I see no reason why one should have to make a DROPSYM conditional as you 
suggest.

You issue the command and, if you have NOSUMMARY, the command response should 
be, well, nothing!
After all, that's what the NOSUMMARY is defined as meaning.

From the manual:

SUMMARY or NOSUMMARY
SUMMARY indicates that a processing summary (a final total line) is to 
be produced.

NOSUMMARY specifies that a processing summary is to be suppressed. The 
NOSUMMARY parameter is useful to turn off summary messages when the subcommand 
is invoked within a CLIST or a REXX exec.



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-Original Message-
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Of Jon Perryman
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 12:15 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: An IPCS question

You need to eliminate the dropsym if it does not exist:

address IPCS
EVALSYM 
if rc = 0 then
     DROPSYM 

Jon Perryman




 From: Hardee, Chuck chuck.har...@thermofisher.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:23 AM
Subject: An IPCS question
 

Hello Everyone,

I have a REXX in which I have coded various commands that I do every time I 
have to look at a dump.
In those commands is a DROPSYM statement, in fact, several of them.

What I would like to do is eliminate the message:

BLS18064I No symbols found

that is produced by the DROPSYM command.

I have NOSUMMARY coded on the DROPSYM but that doesn't do it.
Anyone else tired this and succeeded?
If so, willing to share the knowledge?

Thanks,
Chuck

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Re: Explanation of S0C4 reason 4

2013-10-18 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Ed Gould wrote:

The s0C4 could be something like trying to write a logrec record (possibly an 
error occurred during the format of the new record or...
it could just about be anything without basic info its hard to say).

Indeed. Or something with AC=1 could have overwritten your sacred memory 
causing hard to diagnose abends...

Or your jobs is passing data/parameters/queries to a system and getting invalid 
data/reports/etc back as a reward. Bravo, more S0Cx abends.

In ancient times of good computing years, I got similar weird abends in batch 
jobs (which is making calls to a system product as part of its working) until I 
stopped a system. I arranged to load an older version of that system. Then that 
abends dissapeared and returning when I restarted it with the problematic 
version.  Problem solved with a new ticket to the hapless vendor.

I earned more unneeded grey hairs without getting a 'thank you' from that 
unfortunate programmer. Oh well... ;-)

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: Who speaks proper ???

2013-10-18 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:

My English is poor (as your Polish AFAIK),

What about Afrikaans? [1] ;-D

But there is an advantage! ;-D In sport events, the teams can speak about 
tactics/strategy with each other in their own languages while their opponents 
can't understand them. Hehehe, our Springboks Rugby players found that very 
useful when playing against England, Australia and New Zealand.

It reminds me of the movie 'Windtalkers'. Knowledge of a strange language is 
advantageous. ;-)

 but my mailer is set up correctly - that's an opinion of other people on the 
 IBM-MAIN list. It was discussed several times. As far as I remember the 
 problem occurs only when using IBM-MAIN listserver, onlye when I respond to 
 other mail. 

It is indeed true.

Ok, back to boring work and cold coffee... ;-D

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

[1] - People using Netherlands and Flemish can hopefully understand Afrikaans 
with some efforts. German speaking people also, but with more efforts. 

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Re: OT - from June, an article on how fantastic healthcare.gov is

2013-10-18 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 5260a06b.8040...@gmail.com, on 10/18/2013
   at 10:43 AM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com said:

Why would they do that?

Before asking why, it's best to be sure of who and what. How reliable
is the article?
 
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OT: Flossie ICT 1301 being rescued.

2013-10-18 Thread John McKown
Thought some of us might be interested.

http://www.tnmoc.org/news/news-releases/flossie-first-mass-produced-business-computer-rescued

Something to point at and paraphrase Crocodile Dundee: That's not a
computer. THIS is a computer!

5.5 tons, 6 meters by 7 meters.


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Re: Explanation of S0C4 reason 4

2013-10-18 Thread Peter Relson
I just looked in the Assembler Authorized Guide on Virtual Storage 
And it says subpool 0 is always 8

If the books says so, please explain where so we can correct that.

For all the subpools 0-127, the key relates to the TCB key when the first 
obtain is done from that subpool.

Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design

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Re: An IPCS question

2013-10-18 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 18 Oct 2013 02:41:33 -0700, Hardee, Chuck wrote:

You issue the command and, if you have NOSUMMARY, the command response should 
be, well, nothing!
After all, that's what the NOSUMMARY is defined as meaning.

I don't read the description of NOSUMMARY as meaning ignore errors.

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Re: OT - from June, an article on how fantastic healthcare.gov is

2013-10-18 Thread Kirk Wolf
My WAG on the redaction of copyright notices:  some developer wanted to use
the OS component without going through some approval process.   If true, it
points to an out of control process.

I believe the article.  It was easy enough to verify and if not true it
would have been easy to refute, which hasn't

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com


On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 9:43 PM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 18/10/2013 4:26 AM, Kirk Wolf wrote:

 News today:
 After bragging about using and contributing open source,
 healthcare.govviolated a open source license for a popular javascript
 UI toolkit:

 http://www.weeklystandard.com/**blogs/obamacare-website-**
 violates-licensing-agreement-**copyrighted-software_763666.**htmlhttp://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obamacare-website-violates-licensing-agreement-copyrighted-software_763666.html


 Why would they do that? I don't understand what they would gain from
 removing a copyright. It's interesting that they closed the
 github repo but as usual somebody cloned it https://github.com/**
 Conservatory/healthcare.gov-**2013-10-01https://github.com/Conservatory/healthcare.gov-2013-10-01
 .

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Re: OT: Flossie ICT 1301 being rescued.

2013-10-18 Thread William Donzelli
 Thought some of us might be interested.

 http://www.tnmoc.org/news/news-releases/flossie-first-mass-produced-business-computer-rescued

 Something to point at and paraphrase Crocodile Dundee: That's not a
 computer. THIS is a computer!

 5.5 tons, 6 meters by 7 meters.

Take the article with a grain of salt - Flossie was never really in
danger of getting scrapped, and this really was not a rescue. It is
a really nice machine, and TNMOC is a great home for it.

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Re: Copy from one Dir to another

2013-10-18 Thread Rob Schramm
If it is a whole filesystem, Dss copy. Will do it .
On Oct 16, 2013 1:17 PM, Ron Wells ron.we...@slfs.com wrote:

 Tks everyone...will try the two examples

 been very helpful

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blog security by design

2013-10-18 Thread Robert Galambos
Rarely I post a note here about my blog. While it is not only an IBM issue
(mainframe or not) I thought this maybe of interest to the list.

In a world where we all have to deal with various aspects of the online
world. We are, both personally and professionally, concerned about security
and new technology.
Robert's Law of security and technology progress.

I did this for a couple of reasons.
1) We, as professionals, at times do not see the forest because of the
trees (me included). And I thought I could start an discussion concerning
this.
2) A little self promotion, as the euphemism goes,  I am looking for new
opportunities (got laid off).

Please feel free in forwarding this to anyone you may want to,


http://robertdataprivacytesting.blogspot.ca/2013/10/security-by-design.html

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Re: OT - from June, an article on how fantastic healthcare.gov is

2013-10-18 Thread David Crayford

On 18/10/13 21:04, Kirk Wolf wrote:

My WAG on the redaction of copyright notices:  some developer wanted to use
the OS component without going through some approval process.   If true, it
points to an out of control process.


Hard to believe. It's probably the most popular js tool out there. 
Approval would have been

the first cab of the rank.



I believe the article.  It was easy enough to verify and if not true it
would have been easy to refute, which hasn't


Has anybody verified it?



Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com


On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 9:43 PM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com wrote:


On 18/10/2013 4:26 AM, Kirk Wolf wrote:


News today:
After bragging about using and contributing open source,
healthcare.govviolated a open source license for a popular javascript
UI toolkit:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/**blogs/obamacare-website-**
violates-licensing-agreement-**copyrighted-software_763666.**htmlhttp://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obamacare-website-violates-licensing-agreement-copyrighted-software_763666.html


Why would they do that? I don't understand what they would gain from
removing a copyright. It's interesting that they closed the
github repo but as usual somebody cloned it https://github.com/**
Conservatory/healthcare.gov-**2013-10-01https://github.com/Conservatory/healthcare.gov-2013-10-01
.

  Kirk Wolf

Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com

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Re: OT - from June, an article on how fantastic healthcare.gov is

2013-10-18 Thread Kirk Wolf
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 9:17 AM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com wrote:



 I believe the article.  It was easy enough to verify and if not true it
 would have been easy to refute, which hasn't


 Has anybody verified it?



Check it out:

https://www.healthcare.gov/marketplace/global/en_US/js/jquery.dataTables.js

(this is DataTables, and the copyright notice is gone)

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Re: An IPCS question

2013-10-18 Thread Don Poitras
I'd open an ETR. This isn't a termination message.


In article 
9b26bc6a6df52d4483dd73b1fe7b4b066ceed21...@uspho-mxvs07.amer.thermo.com you 
wrote:
 Thanks Don, but I already have the following in my REXX:

 setdef local  noconfirm flag(terminating)
 setdef global noconfirm flag(terminating)

 I know, I could have left off the local and global and just issue a single 
 command and it would be treated as global.


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 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
 Behalf Of Don Poitras
 Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 8:36 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: An IPCS question

 Chuck,
   Try: SETDEF FLAG(TERMINATING)

 In article 
 9b26bc6a6df52d4483dd73b1fe7b4b066ceed21...@uspho-mxvs07.amer.thermo.com you 
 wrote:
  Hello Everyone,

  I have a REXX in which I have coded various commands that I do every time I 
  have to look at a dump.
  In those commands is a DROPSYM statement, in fact, several of them.

  What I would like to do is eliminate the message:

  BLS18064I No symbols found

  that is produced by the DROPSYM command.

  I have NOSUMMARY coded on the DROPSYM but that doesn't do it.
  Anyone else tired this and succeeded?
  If so, willing to share the knowledge?

  Thanks,
  Chuck

  Charles (Chuck) Hardee
  Senior Systems Engineer/Database Administration
  CCG Information Technology
  Thermo Fisher Scientific
  300 Industry Drive
  Pittsburgh, PA 15275
  Direct: 724-517-2633
  FAX: 412-490-9230
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Re: An IPCS question

2013-10-18 Thread Jon Perryman
The DROPSYM messages for symbols not found is information (not an error 
message). Setting FLAG( ) to any level will not suppress the message. It will 
produce the message so the only way to eliminate the message is to make DROPSYM 
conditional. The alternative is to direct it to print rather than terminal but 
that must be done using the SETDEF command.

NOSUMMARY will eliminate the messages about symbols dropped but does not affect 
the symbols not found message.

I don't think IBM has bothered to change this command because it has always 
worked. It's one of the few commands that doesn't support FLAG( ), 
PRINT/NOPRINT and TERMINAL/NOTERMINAL.  


Jon Perryman.



 From: Hardee, Chuck chuck.har...@thermofisher.com



I see no reason why one should have to make a DROPSYM conditional as you 
suggest.

You issue the command and, if you have NOSUMMARY, the command response should 
be, well, nothing!
After all, that's what the NOSUMMARY is defined as meaning.


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Re: OT - from June, an article on how fantastic healthcare.gov is

2013-10-18 Thread David Crayford

On 18/10/13 22:30, Kirk Wolf wrote:

On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 9:17 AM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com wrote:




I believe the article.  It was easy enough to verify and if not true it
would have been easy to refute, which hasn't


Has anybody verified it?




Check it out:

https://www.healthcare.gov/marketplace/global/en_US/js/jquery.dataTables.js

(this is DataTables, and the copyright notice is gone)


That's shocking! How terribly disappointing that somebody would do that. 
It's not just breaking the rules it's ethically wrong. If you can't get 
approval then park it!




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Re: An IPCS question

2013-10-18 Thread Don Poitras
From the book:

The FLAG severity parameters and the messages transmitted follow.
WARNING is the IPCS-defined default. 
...
TERMINATING
  Transmits only TERMINATING messages and suppresses INFORMATIONAL,
  WARNING, ERROR, and SERIOUS (SEVERE) messages. 


In article 1382107507.42557.yahoomail...@web181003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com you 
wrote:
 The DROPSYM messages for symbols not found is information (not an error 
 message). Setting FLAG( ) to any level will not suppress the message. It will 
 produce the message so the only way to eliminate the message is to make 
 DROPSYM conditional. The alternative is to direct it to print rather than 
 terminal but that must be done using the SETDEF command.

 NOSUMMARY will eliminate the messages about symbols dropped but does not 
 affect the symbols not found message.

 I don't think IBM has bothered to change this command because it has always 
 worked. It's one of the few commands that doesn't support FLAG( ), 
 PRINT/NOPRINT and TERMINAL/NOTERMINAL. ?


 Jon Perryman.


 
  From: Hardee, Chuck chuck.har...@thermofisher.com
 
 
 
 I see no reason why one should have to make a DROPSYM conditional as you 
 suggest.
 
 You issue the command and, if you have NOSUMMARY, the command response 
 should be, well, nothing!
 After all, that's what the NOSUMMARY is defined as meaning.
 

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Re: An IPCS question

2013-10-18 Thread Hardee, Chuck
Thanks Jon, this is the best explanation I've heard so far about why NOSUMMARY 
doesn't suppress the NO SYMBOLS DROPPED message.

I'll have to give some serious thought to adding conditional logic to the 
DROPSYM process.

The biggest problem I have is that majority of the symbols being dropped are of 
a nature 0:9 where the  represents a prefix and the 0 
and 9 are truly numbers, but could be 1, 2, 3, etc digits long making 
checking for conditions awkward, not impossible.

I was hoping to avoid the overhead of calling IPCS to EVALSYM = and = to get 
the range to drop.

Thanks to everyone who responded and to those who thought about it but didn't.

:)

Charles (Chuck) Hardee
Senior Systems Engineer/Database Administration
CCG Information Technology
Thermo Fisher Scientific
300 Industry Drive
Pittsburgh, PA 15275
Direct: 724-517-2633
FAX: 412-490-9230
chuck.har...@thermofisher.com


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Jon Perryman
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 10:45 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: An IPCS question

The DROPSYM messages for symbols not found is information (not an error 
message). Setting FLAG( ) to any level will not suppress the message. It will 
produce the message so the only way to eliminate the message is to make DROPSYM 
conditional. The alternative is to direct it to print rather than terminal but 
that must be done using the SETDEF command.

NOSUMMARY will eliminate the messages about symbols dropped but does not affect 
the symbols not found message.

I don't think IBM has bothered to change this command because it has always 
worked. It's one of the few commands that doesn't support FLAG( ), 
PRINT/NOPRINT and TERMINAL/NOTERMINAL.  


Jon Perryman.



 From: Hardee, Chuck chuck.har...@thermofisher.com



I see no reason why one should have to make a DROPSYM conditional as you 
suggest.

You issue the command and, if you have NOSUMMARY, the command response should 
be, well, nothing!
After all, that's what the NOSUMMARY is defined as meaning.


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Re: An IPCS question

2013-10-18 Thread Jon Perryman
This is easy to fix by having at least one symbol that will be dropped. Simply 
equate a symbol that falls in the range before you do the dropsym. By the way 
it's closer to wildcarding than a range.

address IPCS
EQUATE  0  /* assign  to eliminate DROPSYM message */
DROPSYM X:Y NOSUMMARY     /* drop anything from X to Y */

Jon Perryman.

From: Hardee, Chuck chuck.har...@thermofisher.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 7:57 AM
Subject: Re: An IPCS question
 

Thanks Jon, this is the best explanation I've heard so far about why NOSUMMARY 
doesn't suppress the NO SYMBOLS DROPPED message.

I'll have to give some serious thought to adding conditional logic to the 
DROPSYM process.

The biggest problem I have is that majority of the symbols being dropped are 
of a nature 0:9 where the  represents a prefix and the 
0 and 9 are truly numbers, but could be 1, 2, 3, etc digits long 
making checking for conditions awkward, not impossible.

I was hoping to avoid the overhead of calling IPCS to EVALSYM = and = to get 
the range to drop.

Thanks to everyone who responded and to those who thought about it but didn't.

:)

Charles (Chuck) Hardee
Senior Systems Engineer/Database Administration
CCG Information Technology
Thermo Fisher Scientific
300 Industry Drive
Pittsburgh, PA 15275
Direct: 724-517-2633
FAX: 412-490-9230
chuck.har...@thermofisher.com


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
Behalf Of Jon Perryman
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 10:45 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: An IPCS question

The DROPSYM messages for symbols not found is information (not an error 
message). Setting FLAG( ) to any level will not suppress the message. It will 
produce the message so the only way to eliminate the message is to make 
DROPSYM conditional. The alternative is to direct it to print rather than 
terminal but that must be done using the SETDEF command.

NOSUMMARY will eliminate the messages about symbols dropped but does not 
affect the symbols not found message.

I don't think IBM has bothered to change this command because it has always 
worked. It's one of the few commands that doesn't support FLAG( ), 
PRINT/NOPRINT and TERMINAL/NOTERMINAL.  


Jon Perryman.



 From: Hardee, Chuck chuck.har...@thermofisher.com



I see no reason why one should have to make a DROPSYM conditional as you 
suggest.

You issue the command and, if you have NOSUMMARY, the command response should 
be, well, nothing!
After all, that's what the NOSUMMARY is defined as meaning.


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Re: An IPCS question

2013-10-18 Thread Jon Perryman
FLAG does not suppress informational messages (BLS18064I No symbols found). You 
may feel it should have been a warning but IBM classified it as informational.

Jon Perryman.




 From: Don Poitras poit...@pobox.com


From the book:

The FLAG severity parameters and the messages transmitted follow.
WARNING is the IPCS-defined default. 
...
TERMINATING
  Transmits only TERMINATING messages and suppresses INFORMATIONAL,
  WARNING, ERROR, and SERIOUS (SEVERE) messages. 




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Re: DFSORT (File Reformat)

2013-10-18 Thread Sri h Kolusu
Ron,

You can use the following DFSORT JCL which will reformat the file as you 
need. The length of the file is now increased to 99 bytes (19 additional 
zero for all the 19 occurrences if the data is present.

//STEP0100 EXEC PGM=SORT 
//SYSOUT   DD SYSOUT=* 
//SORTIN   DD * 
XX123478965456 
//SORTOUT  DD SYSOUT=* 
//SYSINDD * 
  OPTION COPY 
  INREC IFOUTLEN=99,IFTHEN=(WHEN=INIT,BUILD=(1,2,98:79,2,100:3,76)), 
  IFTHEN=(WHEN=(100,4,CH,NE,C' '), 
  OVERLAY=(03:100,4,UFF,EDIT=(T)),HIT=NEXT), 
  IFTHEN=(WHEN=(104,4,CH,NE,C' '), 
  OVERLAY=(08:104,4,UFF,EDIT=(T)),HIT=NEXT), 
  IFTHEN=(WHEN=(108,4,CH,NE,C' '), 
  OVERLAY=(13:108,4,UFF,EDIT=(T)),HIT=NEXT), 
  IFTHEN=(WHEN=(112,4,CH,NE,C' '), 
  OVERLAY=(18:112,4,UFF,EDIT=(T)),HIT=NEXT), 
  IFTHEN=(WHEN=(116,4,CH,NE,C' '), 
  OVERLAY=(23:116,4,UFF,EDIT=(T)),HIT=NEXT), 
  IFTHEN=(WHEN=(120,4,CH,NE,C' '), 
  OVERLAY=(28:120,4,UFF,EDIT=(T)),HIT=NEXT), 
  IFTHEN=(WHEN=(124,4,CH,NE,C' '), 
  OVERLAY=(33:124,4,UFF,EDIT=(T)),HIT=NEXT), 
  IFTHEN=(WHEN=(128,4,CH,NE,C' '), 
  OVERLAY=(38:128,4,UFF,EDIT=(T)),HIT=NEXT), 
  IFTHEN=(WHEN=(132,4,CH,NE,C' '), 
  OVERLAY=(43:132,4,UFF,EDIT=(T)),HIT=NEXT), 
  IFTHEN=(WHEN=(136,4,CH,NE,C' '), 
  OVERLAY=(48:136,4,UFF,EDIT=(T)),HIT=NEXT), 
  IFTHEN=(WHEN=(140,4,CH,NE,C' '), 
  OVERLAY=(53:140,4,UFF,EDIT=(T)),HIT=NEXT), 
  IFTHEN=(WHEN=(144,4,CH,NE,C' '), 
  OVERLAY=(58:144,4,UFF,EDIT=(T)),HIT=NEXT), 
  IFTHEN=(WHEN=(144,4,CH,NE,C' '), 
  OVERLAY=(63:144,4,UFF,EDIT=(T)),HIT=NEXT), 
  IFTHEN=(WHEN=(148,4,CH,NE,C' '), 
  OVERLAY=(68:148,4,UFF,EDIT=(T)),HIT=NEXT), 
  IFTHEN=(WHEN=(152,4,CH,NE,C' '), 
  OVERLAY=(73:152,4,UFF,EDIT=(T)),HIT=NEXT), 
  IFTHEN=(WHEN=(156,4,CH,NE,C' '), 
  OVERLAY=(78:156,4,UFF,EDIT=(T)),HIT=NEXT), 
  IFTHEN=(WHEN=(160,4,CH,NE,C' '), 
  OVERLAY=(83:160,4,UFF,EDIT=(T)),HIT=NEXT), 
  IFTHEN=(WHEN=(164,4,CH,NE,C' '), 
  OVERLAY=(88:164,4,UFF,EDIT=(T)),HIT=NEXT), 
  IFTHEN=(WHEN=(168,4,CH,NE,C' '), 
  OVERLAY=(93:168,4,UFF,EDIT=(T))) 
//*   

Thanks,
Kolusu
DFSORT Development
IBM Corporation

IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu wrote on 
10/15/2013 11:27:44 AM:

 From: Ron Thomas ron5...@gmail.com
 To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu, 
 Date: 10/15/2013 11:28 AM
 Subject: DFSORT (File Reformat)
 Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
 
 Hello
 
 We have a input file of length 80 bytes, in this file from the 3'rd 
 position the 4 byte data is defined as a array of 19 occurence. The 
 last 2 bytes is of character data.
 
 We need to reformat this file, there is a chance that data may 
 occure only say 10 times.
 
 Here we need to put 0 in front of the data only if data is present
 in the layout from position 3. No need to put any data in front if 
 there is no file data  for e.g say in position 51
 
 e.g  INPUT FILE :-  XX123478965456
  OUTPUT FILE :  XX012340789605456
 
 Pls let me know how this to be done using SORT ?  No issume if the 
 length of the file is modified by this process
 
 Thanks
 Ron T
 
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Re: MongoDB

2013-10-18 Thread Nagesh S
MongoDB stores it data in BSON or binary JSON and is schema-less.
There is a JSON Schema Internet draft underway -
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-zyp-json-schema-03

And, here is an IBM developerWorks article that approaches it -
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/cloud/library/cl-json-verification/

Nagesh


On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 9:52 AM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 16/10/2013 11:51 AM, Ze'ev Atlas wrote:

 Since NoSQL seems to be reigning supreme, I decided to study MongoDB
 which was both recommended by a friend (a PM who is managing an actual
 project with that stuff) and is the most popular NoSQL engine out there
 according to 
 http://db-engines.com/en/**rankinghttp://db-engines.com/en/ranking(they 
 don't count Hadoop since they considered it to be a file system.)
 As usual, I acquired the book (O'Reilly - mongodb the definitive guide)
 and began to read...

 And here is why I post it here, I have the sense of deja vu all over
 again!

 Forget about the fancy terminology of storing Documents rather then
 rows or records.  In the end it is the same.  They have all the CRUD
 actions (i.e. Create, Remove, Update and Delete) which are done via some
 API functions rather then SQL statements.  They can index and access stuff
 fast.  They can partition the database over many servers and thus scale
 out... all is good.

 But here is the real scoop!  No Joins and if you want to store some
 row... er... document of different structure that relate to the current
 one, you'd rather store it as a sub document (i.e. a different structure
 that is part of your current row (i.e. hierarchical) or in a different
 collection that you should navigate into in the application side.

 Mmm, have I just used the words navigate, hierarchical, etc.  No wonder
 that all those younger people are so excited about NoSQL, they have never
 seen it before.  But we, veterans of IMS, IDMS, ADABAS and the like, our
 old skills are new again!


 We had a conversation on linkedin wrt comparing IMS to MongoDB
 http://tinyurl.com/mk95nrq. I fail to see any similarity between the two
 other than they are both data bases, have keys and values.
 MongoDB stores it data in BSON or binary JSON and is schema-less. That's a
 good thing for some applications, think CMS, and companies that release
 software continuously. The guardian replaced Oracle
 with MongoDB and it was the right tool for the job
 http://www.slideshare.net/**tackers/why-we-chose-mongodb-**
 for-guardiancouk#http://www.slideshare.net/tackers/why-we-chose-mongodb-for-guardiancouk#!.
 It is not, however, a drop in replacement for traditional transactional
 data bases.


  Welcome back to the future.

 
 BTW, I do not bad mouth the technology, it is very useful (as were IMS
 and IDMS) and I can see replacing all warehouses and Star Schemas with that
 stuff, it is more natural, faster and more scalable then the current SQL
 based warehouse technologies.

 ZA

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Re: An IPCS question

2013-10-18 Thread Don Poitras
Jon,
  I'm happy with it being informational. I don't feel it should have
been a warning. The doc says that FLAG suppresses informational, but
we've seen evidence that it doesn't. So it's either a doc erorr or
a bug. Either way, an ETR is in order.

In article 1382109871.74071.yahoomail...@web181003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com you 
wrote:
 FLAG does not suppress informational messages (BLS18064I No symbols found). 
 You may feel it should have been a warning but IBM classified it as 
 informational.

 Jon Perryman.



 
  From: Don Poitras poit...@pobox.com
 
 
 From the book:
 
 The FLAG severity parameters and the messages transmitted follow.
 WARNING is the IPCS-defined default. 
 ...
 TERMINATING
 ? Transmits only TERMINATING messages and suppresses INFORMATIONAL,
 ? WARNING, ERROR, and SERIOUS (SEVERE) messages. 

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Re: An IPCS question

2013-10-18 Thread Jon Perryman
You are correct but it's very unlikely to be fixed. 

The default is FLAG(WARNING) so why does IBM even bother producing 
informational messages that are conditionally displayed. Does anyone run 
FLAG(INFO)? Is there anything useful produced?  

Jon Perryman.




 From: Don Poitras poit...@pobox.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: An IPCS question
 

Jon,
  I'm happy with it being informational. I don't feel it should have
been a warning. The doc says that FLAG suppresses informational, but
we've seen evidence that it doesn't. So it's either a doc erorr or
a bug. Either way, an ETR is in order.

In article 1382109871.74071.yahoomail...@web181003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com you 
wrote:
 FLAG does not suppress informational messages (BLS18064I No symbols found). 
 You may feel it should have been a warning but IBM classified it as 
 informational.

 Jon Perryman.



 
  From: Don Poitras poit...@pobox.com
 
 
 From the book:
 
 The FLAG severity parameters and the messages transmitted follow.
 WARNING is the IPCS-defined default. 
 ...
 TERMINATING
 ? Transmits only TERMINATING messages and suppresses INFORMATIONAL,
 ? WARNING, ERROR, and SERIOUS (SEVERE) messages. 

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JOB: z/OS Systems Programmer @ Univ. of FL

2013-10-18 Thread Bloom,John R
  (Posted with an ok from Darren.)  

The University of Florida in Gainesville, FL, has posted an Systems 
Admin/Programmer 3 z/OS Systems Programmer position with details available at:

  https://jobs.ufl.edu/postings/45929  
 
 

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Re: An IPCS question

2013-10-18 Thread John Gilmore
The ascending severity hierarchy is

INFO  WARNING  ERROR  SEVERE ERROR  TERMINATING

Coding one of these values suppresses all less severe messages.  A
small, non-definitive test suggests that things work as they are
bruited.

In particular none of these message sets is empty.  The question what
the default should be is a separate issue and a judgment call.  A good
design disentangles its value from the question what values to
support.

In particular Mr Perryman and I disagree.  I do not think it
appropriate to discard all messages that are less severe than a|the
current default.

The severity level appropriate in any situation is inversely related
to its setter's experience level.  For an experienced user INFO and
WARNING messages may be, usually are, otiose.  For a novice they may
be, usually are, important.

My own practice is to set default severity levels low because it seems
to me that 1)experienced users who are annoyed by repetitive, to them
uninteresting message will discover how to suppress them and that 2)
the ignorant and inexperienced should be protected while they are so.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of
in your philosophie.

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Clemson Univ. Data Center Tour (1980)

2013-10-18 Thread Jim Blalock
A blast from the past, recently added to Youtube: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKslgJnQgG8


Starring an 8-mb IBM 3033, 3330 disk, reel tape, punch cards, a 
liquid-ink plotter and a 1403 printer that plays Tiger Rag! (at 9:30)


I remember when the video was made.  Sad but true.

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Import Connect with Alias

2013-10-18 Thread Jake anderson
Hello,

My question is about a User catalog getting moved to a different volume.

The scenario is the user catalog belongs to one of our plex with Three
LPARS.(Each LPAR has its own MCAT).

The User catalog is connected to each Master catalog. So for the user
catalog move I adopted the below approach

1) Catalog Backup.
2) Export Disconnect
3) Redefine the Usercatalog on the target volume.
4) Do the restoration from the step(1)
5)Connecting the Usercatalog to other two Mastercatalog.

My question is here for other Systems is IT OK to run a IDCAM control
IMPORT CONNECT with ALIAS instead of defining aliases again on each system
? Since Its understood that during EXPORT DISCONNECT we lose the aliases
defined to MCAT.
Does IMPORT CONNECT with ALIAS can bring the aliases back to the other two
Master catalogs(In other Two LPARS ? )

Could someone please throw on the light above..

Ok the curent version of my system is : Z/OS : 1.13

Jake

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Re: An IPCS question

2013-10-18 Thread Jon Perryman
DROPSYM clearly shows that it does not follow this hierarchy.

I wasn't questioning IBM's choice about the default severity. I was stating the 
fact that having the default of WARNING caused IBM to code DROPSYM with INFO 
messages that deviate from the documentation. It's likely other commands have 
messages that are difficult to suppress. They should adhere to or modify the 
documentation. Maybe they could say some instead of implying all but that 
could cause more open tickets about some.

Since FLAG(INFO) is rarely (if ever) used, there are messages that someone felt 
important to display but will not be seen. Why did they go to the effort of 
creating these messages?

Jon Perryman..




 From: John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com


The ascending severity hierarchy is

INFO  WARNING  ERROR  SEVERE ERROR  TERMINATING

Coding one of these values suppresses all less severe messages.  A
small, non-definitive test suggests that things work as they are
bruited.

In particular none of these message sets is empty.  The question what
the default should be is a separate issue and a judgment call.  A good
design disentangles its value from the question what values to
support.

In particular Mr Perryman and I disagree.  I do not think it
appropriate to discard all messages that are less severe than a|the
current default.

The severity level appropriate in any situation is inversely related
to its setter's experience level.  For an experienced user INFO and
WARNING messages may be, usually are, otiose.  For a novice they may
be, usually are, important.

My own practice is to set default severity levels low because it seems
to me that 1)experienced users who are annoyed by repetitive, to them
uninteresting message will discover how to suppress them and that 2)
the ignorant and inexperienced should be protected while they are so.


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Re: Clemson Univ. Data Center Tour (1980)

2013-10-18 Thread William Donzelli
 Starring an 8-mb IBM 3033, 3330 disk, reel tape, punch cards, a liquid-ink
 plotter and a 1403 printer that plays Tiger Rag! (at 9:30)

Great video.

I looks like the processor is just about the only real IBM gear there.
The tape are STC, the 3350s are CDC, and the 3330s are from someone
that I can not ID.

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z/OS IPL Issue

2013-10-18 Thread saurabh khandelwal
Hello Group,
   We are running z/OS 1.13 system and I installed CICS T/S
5.1 . So before starting first time CICS, I was ipling my z/OS system to
take all new changes.

But while loading LPAR from HMC, I get success message on load screen but I
don't see anything in operating system message screen . When I tried
checking Hardware message, I have got below PSW code
there 000280009064.

I am not getting any clue to solve this issue. Kindly advise .

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Re: z/OS IPL Issue

2013-10-18 Thread Ed Jaffe

On 10/18/2013 10:15 PM, saurabh khandelwal wrote:

But while loading LPAR from HMC, I get success message on load screen but I
don't see anything in operating system message screen . When I tried
checking Hardware message, I have got below PSW code
there 000280009064.

I am not getting any clue to solve this issue. Kindly advise .


z/OS MVS System Codes
A program check occurred. Accompanying message IEA304W further
explains this wait state and entry code. If the message does not
appear on the console, you can find the message in the wait state
message area (WSMA).
/z/OS MVS System Codes

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Re: z/OS IPL Issue

2013-10-18 Thread saurabh khandelwal
Hello,
 I had checked for this IEA304W  this message but, I couldn't find
it . The message I am getting on HMC hardware message is
Central processor (CP) 0 is in a nonrestartable stopped state due to a
System Control Program (SCP) initiated reset of the I/O interface for
partition PROD01. The disabled wait program status word (PSW) is
000280009064.

When I am trying to load LPAR, I am getting success message but after that
I don't get to see anything on operating system message scree and LPAR
color become RED.

Does it mean that operating  system is able to load successfully in the
initial level but after that because of memory its crashing.

I don't have INITSQA entry in my LOADXX member but in IEASYS member we have
specified SQA=(1792K,50M)..

Do I need to make INITSQA  entry in LOADXX member to solve this issue, If
yes, then how much I need to specify.

Please suggest.

Regards
Saurabh


On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Ed Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.comwrote:

 On 10/18/2013 10:15 PM, saurabh khandelwal wrote:

 But while loading LPAR from HMC, I get success message on load screen but
 I
 don't see anything in operating system message screen . When I tried
 checking Hardware message, I have got below PSW code
 there 0002800090**64.

 I am not getting any clue to solve this issue. Kindly advise .


 z/OS MVS System Codes
 A program check occurred. Accompanying message IEA304W further
 explains this wait state and entry code. If the message does not
 appear on the console, you can find the message in the wait state
 message area (WSMA).
 /z/OS MVS System Codes

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 Edward E Jaffe
 Phoenix Software International, Inc
 831 Parkview Drive North
 El Segundo, CA 90245
 http://www.phoenixsoftware.**com/ http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/

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