Re: Question on 3270 Devices (3290 Orange Screen!)

2015-06-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In blu436-smtp10277173df1957efbeea268da...@phx.gbl, on 05/31/2015
   at 01:40 PM, Tony's Outlook via Mozilla tbabo...@outlook.com
said:

I loved the 3290,

AOL.

Wish I could emulate it on my large monitor.

Doesn't vista handle that, plus color?

Always wishing to push a limit I once split my 3290 into 4 screens,

I alway ran in 62x80, and let ISPF split it at need. I found 4 24x80
splits to be readable, but mostly I had 2 80-column splits for editing
and one wide split for viewing listings. 

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Re: Notify for XMIT

2015-06-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 556b662e.60...@acm.org, on 05/31/2015
   at 02:51 PM, Joel Ewing jcew...@acm.org said:

The above CLIST code should presumably work as you expect for
intercepting SEND CLIST errors in an Interactive TSO/E, ISPF
environment where TSO is invoked via a TSO logon PROC as IKJEFT01 and
not as IKJEFT1A or IKJEFT1B.

AFAIK all of IKJEFT01, IKJEFT1A and IKJEFT1B have the same task
structure..
 
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Re: Where can a running TSO program get its terminal name

2015-06-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 000701d09bd1$1872a0e0$4957e2a0$@mcn.org, on 05/31/2015
   at 11:39 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said:

The master of the out-of-context quote.

Not even close; the context was clearly IEABRCX. By all means use it
blindly; it's not my dog.
 
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Re: SMPE MCS construction question re aliases

2015-06-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 556c5f4f.1090...@us.ibm.com, on 06/01/2015
   at 09:34 AM, Kurt Quackenbush ku...@us.ibm.com said:

  The ++PROGRAM MCS describes a program element (a pre-built load
 module or a program object). It must immediately precede the load
 module or program object when they are within the SYSMOD.

 That would be a good trick. I might believe a GIMZIP compressed
 version.

Its no trick.  GIMDTS is your friend here.

Certainly, but what you have is a compressed file, not a load module
or program object.
 
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Re: New Line vs. Line Feed

2015-06-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 1 Jun 2015 22:18:20 -0500, Bill Godfrey wrote:

The grep and awk commands don't match \n to end-of-line on omvs, or on 
linux for that matter.

awk certainly does.  To wit:
user@OS/390.24.00: cat awknl   
#! /bin/sh -x

awk 'BEGIN {
String = First line\nSecond line.\n

# Show that \n is a line end.
printf( %s, String )

# show that \n matches line end.
print( match( String, \n ) )
}'
user@OS/390.24.00: sh awknl
First line
Second line.
11
user@OS/390.24.00: 

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Re: Notify for XMIT

2015-06-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 556c7872.7020...@acm.org, on 06/01/2015
   at 10:21 AM, Joel Ewing jcew...@acm.org said:

Now to complete the test try invoking your invalid-keyword version 
of the CLIST  from the SYSTSIN  SYSIN file in a Batch TSO job step 
where the JCL EXEC statement invokes PGM=IKJEFT1A,

If you're trying to see a difference between background and foreground
then use the same TMP for both. If you're trying to see the difference
between IKJEFT01 and IKJEFT1A, then try both in background or both in
foreground. Changing two variable at once won't give you a clear
picture.

The whole point is that CLISTs under TSO/E behave (as documented)
somewhat differently in a batch IKJEFT1A/IKJEFT1B environment versus
an interactive TSO session.

No, foreground versus background is a red herring. The behavior of
IKJEFT1{AB} would be just as bad in foreground.
 
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Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: OMVS command history

2015-06-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In ez-800529419.1651755...@gmx.ch, on 06/01/2015
   at 07:51 AM, Peter Hunkeler p...@gmx.ch said:

Well, as I wrote, the OMVS command processor

There's more to OMVS than just the shell. The phrase but OMVS has no
access clearly refers to more than the shell.
 
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Re: Question on 3270 Devices

2015-06-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 556c66e1.7090...@rochester.rr.com, on 06/01/2015
   at 10:06 AM, Thomas Conley pinnc...@rochester.rr.com said:

Good points all, but Gil wants to have multiple ISPF sessions on the 
same LPAR.  TSO currently doesn't support that natively,

ObGungaDin WSA.
 
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Re: Question on 3270 Devices

2015-06-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
cafo-8tq0gavpzyufbhxgwxuwik6jqw4wzkq+xob-5y9hgf3...@mail.gmail.com,
on 05/31/2015
   at 01:54 PM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com said:

Right, but this wasn't IBM, and was color (3279).

3279 is an IBM line, and 3rd party vendors rarely repurpose IBM model
numbers.

Clearly a 3290 competitor.

Not if it can't display 4 sessions concurrently and don't let an
application carve up a 62x160 session.
 
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Re: LPAR MOBILITY

2015-06-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 7ejoma1d3tjintk6at60q4i723p3127...@4ax.com, on 06/01/2015
   at 09:20 AM, Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca said:

On 31 May 2015 10:05:29 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

In 0912959236903597.wa.wwwdieuyahoo@listserv.ua.edu, on
05/28/2015
   at 04:22 AM, IBMZOS
00af65f10fb1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said:

thought Z was at the top of technology.

Z is missing things that IBM developeds on S/360 and S/370. The
cobbler's son is barefoot.
 
What things?

Queued Partioned Access Method[1]. DSS. Dynamic linking.

Some capabilities we finally introduced into MVS, be decdes lar and in
truncated form.

[1] Including Queued Indexed Partitioned Access Methods.

Are there replacements?

Partial.
 
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Re: Question on 3270 Devices

2015-06-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 0354368054759855.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
06/01/2015
   at 09:52 AM, Paul Gilmartin
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said:

As the end user, I care little about the technical details of the
blockage; only that the facility is unavailable.

That's fine if you don't really care about what you're asking for but
are only letting off steam. It's not productive if you really do care.

And I might reverse the analysis and fault ISPF for relying on an
inadequate service.

You might, if you didn't want to be taken seriously.

An alternative approach might be to liberate ISPF from dependency on
TSO. 

Again? Why wasn't twice enough? 
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Re: SMPE MCS construction question re aliases

2015-06-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 6503242797771151.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
06/01/2015
   at 07:40 AM, Paul Gilmartin
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said:

On Sun, 31 May 2015 09:22:12 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)  wrote:

 The ++PROGRAM MCS describes a program element (a pre-built load
module or a program object). It must immediately precede the load
module or program object when they are within the SYSMOD.

That would be a good trick. I might believe a GIMZIP compressed
version.
 
This good trick is routinely accomplished by IEBCOPY and GIMDTS.

No; a different trick is accomplished.
 
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Re: intermittant abends

2015-06-02 Thread Tim Hare
Do they all fail at offset 0 or just AMATERSE?

Do you have any exits or vendor products that monitor program use - including 
things like Omegamon?  Have they been upgraded to levels compatible with 2.1 ?  
I ask because I experienced a similar thing during an OS upgrade (not to 2.1 
...) where we got 0C4 abends during step completions.  Turns out a monitor had 
an undocumented hook at the IEFACTRT exit point, the OS moved something above 
the 16MB line, and the un-upgraded monitor code was trying to reach it in 
24-bit mode.

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Re: intermittant abends

2015-06-02 Thread John Norgauer
These abends are appearing  in various areas.
1. running SCLM compiles
2. Displaying userid info from the RACF database using option 4
3. In a batch execution of AMATERSE

IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT  688
SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=0C4  REASON CODE=0011
 TIME=15.12.34  SEQ=00177  CPU=  ASID=003A
 PSW AT TIME OF ERROR  078D3000   8001C3E4  ILC 6  INTC 11
   ACTIVE LOAD MODULE   ADDRESS=76B8  OFFSET=000
   NAME=AMATERSE
   DATA AT PSW  0001C3DE - 1E675E60  BB6BD200  9ABC6000
   GR 0: 6AA5   1: 0001C5DC
  2: 0001   3: 6BE1
  4: 6CC4   5: 
  6: 00B82FEB   7: 0001
  8: 00B82FEB   9: 6248
  A: 0001CA88   B: 0001BA89
  C: 8001AA8A   D: 6248
  E: 8001B7BE   F: 
 END OF SYMPTOM DUMP
IEF450I SYSJCNTE S1 - ABEND=S0C4 U REASON=0011  689

All these tasks ran fine on z/os 1.13

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Of Lizette Koehler
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 11:47 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: intermittant abends

I am not sure you have provided enough detail here.  We finished our upgrade to 
z/OS V2.1 and did not see this issue.

Could you post the entire Summary dump from the JOBLOG with Registers?
Could you post additional message in SYSLOG around where the S0C4 occurs?
What are you running when you get this error?
I would guess that this ran successfully prior to z/OS V2.1.  Did you make any 
changes before moving this to z/OS V2.1?  Or is this the exact same process 
that runs successfully on your down leveled LPAR?


Lizette


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Sent: Jun 2, 2015 11:16 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: intermittant abends

We are close to turning on 2.1 z/os on in our production LPAR.

We are getting sporadic abends of this kind:

IEC999I IFG0554P,SYSJCNTE,S1
IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT  688
SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=0C4  REASON CODE=0011

It appears when I display user info from RACF.
When I ran a terse batch job, it appeared.

I sent a dump to IBM and have not heard back so that's why I posted to the 
list.

Any thoughts from the list?


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Re: Question on 3270 Devices

2015-06-02 Thread zMan
Which is what I said it did. What are you on about?

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 8:38 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) 
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote:

 In
 cafo-8tq0gavpzyufbhxgwxuwik6jqw4wzkq+xob-5y9hgf3...@mail.gmail.com,
 on 05/31/2015
at 01:54 PM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com said:

 Right, but this wasn't IBM, and was color (3279).

 3279 is an IBM line, and 3rd party vendors rarely repurpose IBM model
 numbers.

 Clearly a 3290 competitor.

 Not if it can't display 4 sessions concurrently and don't let an
 application carve up a 62x160 session.

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Re: intermittant abends

2015-06-02 Thread Lizette Koehler
What is your current maint level on z/OS V2.1.  oa42694 is from 2013.

Lizette

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 On Behalf Of John Norgauer
 Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 12:09 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: intermittant abends
 
 These abends are appearing  in various areas.
 1. running SCLM compiles
 2. Displaying userid info from the RACF database using option 4 3. In a batch
 execution of AMATERSE
 
 IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT  688
 SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=0C4  REASON CODE=0011
  TIME=15.12.34  SEQ=00177  CPU=  ASID=003A
  PSW AT TIME OF ERROR  078D3000   8001C3E4  ILC 6  INTC 11
ACTIVE LOAD MODULE   ADDRESS=76B8  OFFSET=000
NAME=AMATERSE
DATA AT PSW  0001C3DE - 1E675E60  BB6BD200  9ABC6000
GR 0: 6AA5   1: 0001C5DC
   2: 0001   3: 6BE1
   4: 6CC4   5: 
   6: 00B82FEB   7: 0001
   8: 00B82FEB   9: 6248
   A: 0001CA88   B: 0001BA89
   C: 8001AA8A   D: 6248
   E: 8001B7BE   F: 
  END OF SYMPTOM DUMP
 IEF450I SYSJCNTE S1 - ABEND=S0C4 U REASON=0011  689
 
 All these tasks ran fine on z/os 1.13
 
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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
 Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 11:47 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: intermittant abends
 
 I am not sure you have provided enough detail here.  We finished our
 upgrade to z/OS V2.1 and did not see this issue.
 
 Could you post the entire Summary dump from the JOBLOG with Registers?
 Could you post additional message in SYSLOG around where the S0C4 occurs?
 What are you running when you get this error?
 I would guess that this ran successfully prior to z/OS V2.1.  Did you make any
 changes before moving this to z/OS V2.1?  Or is this the exact same process
 that runs successfully on your down leveled LPAR?
 
 
 Lizette
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: John Norgauer jcnorga...@ucdavis.edu
 Sent: Jun 2, 2015 11:16 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: intermittant abends
 
 We are close to turning on 2.1 z/os on in our production LPAR.
 
 We are getting sporadic abends of this kind:
 
 IEC999I IFG0554P,SYSJCNTE,S1
 IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT  688
 SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=0C4  REASON CODE=0011
 
 It appears when I display user info from RACF.
 When I ran a terse batch job, it appeared.
 
 I sent a dump to IBM and have not heard back so that's why I posted to the
 list.
 
 Any thoughts from the list?
 
 
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Re: intermittant abends

2015-06-02 Thread Jim McAlpine
Could oa42694 be the cause ?

Jim McAlpine
On 2 Jun 2015 19:17, John Norgauer jcnorga...@ucdavis.edu wrote:

 We are close to turning on 2.1 z/os on in our production LPAR.

 We are getting sporadic abends of this kind:

 IEC999I IFG0554P,SYSJCNTE,S1
 IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT  688
 SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=0C4  REASON CODE=0011

 It appears when I display user info from RACF.
 When I ran a terse batch job, it appeared.

 I sent a dump to IBM and have not heard back so that's why I posted to the
 list.

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Re: intermittant abends

2015-06-02 Thread Lizette Koehler
I am not sure you have provided enough detail here.  We finished our upgrade to 
z/OS V2.1 and did not see this issue.

Could you post the entire Summary dump from the JOBLOG with Registers?
Could you post additional message in SYSLOG around where the S0C4 occurs?
What are you running when you get this error?
I would guess that this ran successfully prior to z/OS V2.1.  Did you make any 
changes before moving this to z/OS V2.1?  Or is this the exact same process 
that runs successfully on your down leveled LPAR?


Lizette


-Original Message-
From: John Norgauer jcnorga...@ucdavis.edu
Sent: Jun 2, 2015 11:16 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: intermittant abends

We are close to turning on 2.1 z/os on in our production LPAR.

We are getting sporadic abends of this kind:

IEC999I IFG0554P,SYSJCNTE,S1
IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT  688
SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=0C4  REASON CODE=0011

It appears when I display user info from RACF.
When I ran a terse batch job, it appeared.

I sent a dump to IBM and have not heard back so that's why I posted to the 
list.

Any thoughts from the list?


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Hillgang - 17 June

2015-06-02 Thread Neale Ferguson
The next meeting of Hillgang, the VA/MD/DC z/VM and Linux on z user group,
will take place on Wednesday, 17th June at the CA Offices in Herndon VA.
The agenda, location, and registration details may be found at:
http://www.vm.ibm.com/events/HILL0615.PDF.

We will have Barton Robinson (Velocity), Rita Shan (PenFed Credit Union),
and John Franciscovich (IBM) presenting at the meeting.

Neale


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Value of ZENVIR in z/OS 2.1

2015-06-02 Thread Dave Salt
Just to follow up IBM has confirmed the manual is in error and will be 
corrected; i.e. the value of ZENVIR in z/OS 2.1 should be 7.1 and not 7.0. 
Thanks to IBM and to others who responded.

Dave Salt
  
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Re: intermittant abends

2015-06-02 Thread John Norgauer
I'll check it out with IBM

Thanks

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Could oa42694 be the cause ?

Jim McAlpine
On 2 Jun 2015 19:17, John Norgauer jcnorga...@ucdavis.edu wrote:

 We are close to turning on 2.1 z/os on in our production LPAR.

 We are getting sporadic abends of this kind:

 IEC999I IFG0554P,SYSJCNTE,S1
 IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT  688
 SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=0C4  REASON CODE=0011

 It appears when I display user info from RACF.
 When I ran a terse batch job, it appeared.

 I sent a dump to IBM and have not heard back so that's why I posted to 
 the list.

 Any thoughts from the list?

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intermittant abends

2015-06-02 Thread John Norgauer
We are close to turning on 2.1 z/os on in our production LPAR.

We are getting sporadic abends of this kind:

IEC999I IFG0554P,SYSJCNTE,S1
IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT  688
SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=0C4  REASON CODE=0011

It appears when I display user info from RACF.
When I ran a terse batch job, it appeared.

I sent a dump to IBM and have not heard back so that's why I posted to the list.

Any thoughts from the list?

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Re: intermittant abends

2015-06-02 Thread John Norgauer
Different locations.

My sandbox appears to function OK.

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Do they all fail at offset 0 or just AMATERSE?

Do you have any exits or vendor products that monitor program use - including 
things like Omegamon?  Have they been upgraded to levels compatible with 2.1 ?  
I ask because I experienced a similar thing during an OS upgrade (not to 2.1 
...) where we got 0C4 abends during step completions.  Turns out a monitor had 
an undocumented hook at the IEFACTRT exit point, the OS moved something above 
the 16MB line, and the un-upgraded monitor code was trying to reach it in 
24-bit mode. 

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Re: intermittant abends

2015-06-02 Thread John Norgauer
We are at Serverpac level of maint.

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What is your current maint level on z/OS V2.1.  oa42694 is from 2013.

Lizette

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 Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 12:09 PM
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 Subject: Re: intermittant abends
 
 These abends are appearing  in various areas.
 1. running SCLM compiles
 2. Displaying userid info from the RACF database using option 4 3. In 
 a batch execution of AMATERSE
 
 IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT  688
 SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=0C4  REASON CODE=0011
  TIME=15.12.34  SEQ=00177  CPU=  ASID=003A
  PSW AT TIME OF ERROR  078D3000   8001C3E4  ILC 6  INTC 11
ACTIVE LOAD MODULE   ADDRESS=76B8  OFFSET=000
NAME=AMATERSE
DATA AT PSW  0001C3DE - 1E675E60  BB6BD200  9ABC6000
GR 0: 6AA5   1: 0001C5DC
   2: 0001   3: 6BE1
   4: 6CC4   5: 
   6: 00B82FEB   7: 0001
   8: 00B82FEB   9: 6248
   A: 0001CA88   B: 0001BA89
   C: 8001AA8A   D: 6248
   E: 8001B7BE   F: 
  END OF SYMPTOM DUMP
 IEF450I SYSJCNTE S1 - ABEND=S0C4 U REASON=0011  689
 
 All these tasks ran fine on z/os 1.13
 
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 On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
 Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 11:47 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: intermittant abends
 
 I am not sure you have provided enough detail here.  We finished our 
 upgrade to z/OS V2.1 and did not see this issue.
 
 Could you post the entire Summary dump from the JOBLOG with Registers?
 Could you post additional message in SYSLOG around where the S0C4 occurs?
 What are you running when you get this error?
 I would guess that this ran successfully prior to z/OS V2.1.  Did you 
 make any changes before moving this to z/OS V2.1?  Or is this the 
 exact same process that runs successfully on your down leveled LPAR?
 
 
 Lizette
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: John Norgauer jcnorga...@ucdavis.edu
 Sent: Jun 2, 2015 11:16 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: intermittant abends
 
 We are close to turning on 2.1 z/os on in our production LPAR.
 
 We are getting sporadic abends of this kind:
 
 IEC999I IFG0554P,SYSJCNTE,S1
 IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT  688
 SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=0C4  REASON CODE=0011
 
 It appears when I display user info from RACF.
 When I ran a terse batch job, it appeared.
 
 I sent a dump to IBM and have not heard back so that's why I posted 
 to the
 list.
 
 Any thoughts from the list?
 
 
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Re: EMC DLM

2015-06-02 Thread Clifford McNeill
I know very little about EMC DLM but I do know it uses a lock directory that 
you need read/write access to.  The lock directory is specified on the Storage 
tab of the administrator's web interface.
Cliff McNeill

 
 We have an EMC DLM in production replicating to one for DR.  We are unable to 
 get buy getting the following message when attempting to restore from the DR 
 box
 
 DLm455E: Error locking volume 300119 (/tapelib/DISK0/300119): Read-only file  
   
 system
 

  
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EMC DLM

2015-06-02 Thread Melissa Perry
We have an EMC DLM in production replicating to one for DR.  We are unable to 
get buy getting the following message when attempting to restore from the DR box

DLm455E: Error locking volume 300119 (/tapelib/DISK0/300119): Read-only file
system

I genned a different set of tape drives to use on the current production box to 
test DR.   We were just expecting to be able to restore from DR box as we can 
in production.  Obviously we made a bad assumption or missed something.

I understand that the DR side is read only.  All I am trying to do is restore a 
PDS from a 'tape' on the DR side.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: EMC DLM

2015-06-02 Thread Lizette Koehler
I am going to say this - and I am not happy.

Contact EMC through their SR process.  They are very adept as helping with 
these types of issues.

We have had several Tapes being locked and they were able to Dial in and 
correct the issue.  They also can provide guidance on how to do what you want.

We have a similar configuration, but I have not tested the DR tapes yet.  

Lizette


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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On Behalf Of Melissa Perry
 Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 1:20 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: EMC DLM
 
 We have an EMC DLM in production replicating to one for DR.  We are unable
 to get buy getting the following message when attempting to restore from
 the DR box
 
 DLm455E: Error locking volume 300119 (/tapelib/DISK0/300119): Read-only
 file
 system
 
 I genned a different set of tape drives to use on the current production box
 to test DR.   We were just expecting to be able to restore from DR box as we
 can in production.  Obviously we made a bad assumption or missed
 something.
 
 I understand that the DR side is read only.  All I am trying to do is restore 
 a
 PDS from a 'tape' on the DR side.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: MQ QMGR bringing down

2015-06-02 Thread Meenakshi, Vinoth - CW
Sure Lizette and this was a much needed article.
Thanks..!

Samat

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Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2015 9:26:40 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: MQ QMGR bringing down

This is a good article on stopping/starting MQ
https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/aimsupport/entry/zos_websphere_mq_what_goes_up_must_come_down?lang=en

Lizette


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 Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 8:43 AM
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 Subject: Re: MQ QMGR bringing down

 I would recommend NOT using FORCE until you know the reason the qmgr is
 not coming down.  You may damage something you do not want to damage.

 In my opinion, always determine the cause before applying a hammer.  It
 maybe that it is the right solution, but you need to make sure it is.

 Lizette


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 m...@listserv.ua.edu]
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  Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 8:27 AM
  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  Subject: Re: MQ QMGR bringing down
 
  Thanks Kolusu, it worked and i have brought down the MQ QMGR
 
  Regards,
  Samat
 
  On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 8:51 PM, Sri h Kolusu skol...@us.ibm.com
 wrote:
 
   May be you need Mode FORCE
  
   Example : STOP QMGR MODE(FORCE)
  
   And this article might give more insights.
  
  
  
 
 https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/aimsupport/entr
  y/zo
   s_websphere_mq_what_goes_up_must_come_down?lang=en
  
   Thanks,
   Kolusu
  
   IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU wrote
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   06/01/2015 08:10:18 AM:
  
From: zos reader zos.rea...@gmail.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date: 06/01/2015 08:11 AM
Subject: Re: MQ QMGR bringing down Sent by: IBM Mainframe
Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
   
Yes, tried it and still i couldn't bring down
   
RESPONSE=SYS9  CSQY004I /CSQ1 QUEUE MANAGER IS ALREADY
  STOPPING
 RESPONSE=SYS9  CSQ9023E /CSQ1 CSQYSCMD 'STOP QMGR'
  ABNORMAL
   COMPLETION
   
Thanks
   
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 8:31 PM, Mullen, Patrick
patrick.mul...@gwl.ca
wrote:
   
 Try /CSQ1 STOP QMGR


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 Behalf Of zos reader
 Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 9:52 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: MQ QMGR bringing down

 Hi All,

 I am trying to bring down the MQ QMGR and below are the running
 STC
   and i
 couldn't bring them down.

 I issued /CSQ1 STOP CSQMSTR and it doesn't work I have installed
 in
   Test
 system and brought up and all looks good and now i am trying
 bring
   down and
 i have brought down the CSQ1CHIN stc.

  CSQ1MSTR STC04693 CSQ1MSTR   15 EXECUTION  SYS9  SYS9
   CSQ1BTMN STC04714 CSQ1BTM15 EXECUTION  SYS9  SYS9

 Kindly guide me.

 Samat

BM-MAIN

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Re: intermittant abends

2015-06-02 Thread John Norgauer
My sandbox LPAR is not having the abends. They are occurring on a D/R LPAR.  
The plot thickens.

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I'll check it out with IBM

Thanks

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Could oa42694 be the cause ?

Jim McAlpine
On 2 Jun 2015 19:17, John Norgauer jcnorga...@ucdavis.edu wrote:

 We are close to turning on 2.1 z/os on in our production LPAR.

 We are getting sporadic abends of this kind:

 IEC999I IFG0554P,SYSJCNTE,S1
 IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT  688
 SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=0C4  REASON CODE=0011

 It appears when I display user info from RACF.
 When I ran a terse batch job, it appeared.

 I sent a dump to IBM and have not heard back so that's why I posted to 
 the list.

 Any thoughts from the list?

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Re: New Line vs. Line Feed

2015-06-02 Thread Bill Godfrey
On Tue, 2 Jun 2015 03:17:35 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote:

On Mon, 1 Jun 2015 22:18:20 -0500, Bill Godfrey wrote:

The grep and awk commands don't match \n to end-of-line on omvs, or on 
linux for that matter.

awk certainly does.  To wit:
user@OS/390.24.00: cat awknl   
#! /bin/sh -x

awk 'BEGIN {
String = First line\nSecond line.\n

# Show that \n is a line end.
printf( %s, String )

# show that \n matches line end.
print( match( String, \n ) )
}'
user@OS/390.24.00: sh awknl
First line
Second line.
11
user@OS/390.24.00: 

I was only referring to \n in the pattern used in awk's general pattern 
{action} syntax, where the pattern
is matched against text being read. I should have qualified my statement.

It's important to note that in your awk example and my Perl example
the \n is not being treated as an anchor in the regex pattern, like $ would be.

You could change \n to \n$ in the last print statement, and the result 
would be 24 instead of 11.

I'm sure you know all of this already. I'm just mentioning it for anyone who 
might not.

Bill

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Re: AW: Re: JES2 Exit 23

2015-06-02 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Ed Finnell wrote:

Just as the bigwigs due  to show up the 'Change toner bag' light came on and 
he scurried out to the van  and got the replacement-still time. Got the bag 
swapped just as the tour was  beginning so is tripping across the raised floor 
to the recycle exchange and  stumps his toe on the floor seams. The toner bags 
were like 18x18x48 and  said when it hit the floor TNF spewed out like a 
volcano. 

18x18x48 - do you mean the size of the bag?

What is 'TNF'? - Acronym Police said amongst a lot of things this jewel - 
'That's Not Funny.'  
(from http://www.acronymfinder.com) 

Now, my question - those bags - are they not in a sturdy wood or carton box? Or 
from what were they made of?

The hazmat crew spent  2 days decontaminating the room.

No static electricity problems?

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: AW: Re: JES2 Exit 23

2015-06-02 Thread Ed Finnell
We had a room full of 3800's in early 80's guess they were Line mode. But  
DCF had a DEV(3800)
and it was used extensively. Guess the big push was to the Kyocera engines  
with the 3835. Don't think I did a PSF install until late '86. 
 
The 3835 demo team was at SHARE and guess it was the Sunday tour. Really  
impressive. Think they were driving it with a POWER PC of some flavor. The  
Demo CE said he was still recovering from the rollout. Just as the bigwigs 
due  to show up the 'Change toner bag' light came on and he scurried out to 
the van  and got the replacement-still time. Got the bag swapped just as the 
tour was  beginning so is tripping across the raised floor to the recycle 
exchange and  stumps his toe on the floor seams. The toner bags were like 
18x18x48 and  said when it hit the floor TNF spewed out like a volcano. The 
hazmat crew spent  2 days decontaminating the room.  
 
 
In a message dated 6/2/2015 6:18:01 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
ee...@us.ibm.com writes:

PSF V1  (5665-275) was made available just in time for Christmas in 
1984 (21  December). 1.1 came out in 1985, 1.2 in 1988, and 1.3 in 1989. 
PSF V1 was  withdrawn from service in 1992, having been supplanted by PSF 
V2. PSF V1  ran on MVS on 168s and 158s, and later processors (43xx) when 
originally  announced.


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Re: New CSS in HCD

2015-06-02 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2015-06-02 o 00:49, Neubert, Kevin pisze:

Sounds like your channels are not currently defined as spanned.  If that is the case, add the new 
partition then change the channel mode.  Subsequent prompts for HCS7780 are Define Access 
List panel CBDPCH1B and Confirm Copy Control Unit and Device Attachments panel 
CBDPUT48.  Related help panel for the latter is CBDY6B22.



Yes, my channels weren't SPANned and couldn't be SPANned, because HCD 
convert channel definition to SHR everytime you try to use SPAN with no 
LPARs from other CSS.


BTW: I solved my problem by changing all channel definitions, piece by 
piece. It also prompts for CU connection to new CSS.

BTW: I discovered an error in HCD.
Example:
CU 1000 is connected to MYCPC.0 using chpids:
 44.0503 72.0522 4E.0302 68.0322 0D  11  31  35
After the change I got MYCPC.1 connected:
 44.0503 72.0522 4E.0302 68.0322 0D.00  11 .00 31 .00 35.00

Note, the direct connection definitions are crippled. I had to delete 
them and define back.




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P.S. Thank you to all who responded. I appreciate it.




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Re: CA-7 question

2015-06-02 Thread Scott Barry
On Sun, 31 May 2015 20:54:35 -0400, Rajesh Kumar herowith.z...@gmail.com 
wrote:

if jobs are demand , you can see entry mode of job isDEMD .. not
REQ ; Also if job is demand to ca7 it will not waiting for time or date
 request , it will immediately start running.

On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 5:53 PM, Lucas Rosalen rosalen.lu...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Are you sure the other jobs are being added by SSCN? Maybe they have/had
 been demanded?

 Lucas
 On May 31, 2015 11:19 PM, Rajesh Kumar herowith.z...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi Tony,
 
  I could see span value is *SPAN = 120  and  INCREMENT = 60 from sscan* ;
  Span=120 is 2 hrs yearly,  (span value must be less than increment)
 
 
   SPAN=- CHANGES NUMBER OF HOURS SCHEDULE SCAN IS TO LOOK
  FORWARD, DURING EACH WAKE-UP, FOR JOBS THAT MUST
  BE ADDED TO THE QUEUES. VALUE MUST BE A NUMBER OF
  HOURS FROM 1 TO 24. SPAN VALUE MUST NOT BE LESS
  THAN THE INCR VALUE.
 
 
  Hope now you understood yearly showing of job now
 
  Regards,
  Rajesh
 
  On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Tony Thigpen t...@vse2pdf.com wrote:
 
   I was hoping someone was watching the list today that could help me get
   over the hump on this one.
  
   I know there is some pattern, but it's just not clicking. Some jobs
 seem
   to jump in several hours early, while other jump in only 30 minutes
  before
   their time.
  
   Tony Thigpen
  
  
   Lizette Koehler wrote on 05/31/2015 04:06 PM:
  
   I might recommend that, if you have not done so, join the CA Community
   for CA7.  Or open a case with CA.  You may get a much faster response.
  
   Lizette
  
  
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 ]
   On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen
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   Subject: CA-7 question
  
   I am trying to better understand why jobs show up in the REQ when the
   show up.
   For example, I have a job with the following:
   ID=003   ROLL=D  INDEX=+000
   SCAL=DOTM=1640  LEADTM=0010  SUBTM=1630  STARTM=1630
  WEEKLYDAY=SUN
  
   And it already in the queue two hours early:
  LQ,SEQ=JOB
   XXX REQ 0823 151/1630 151/1630 151/1640  ALL- 003 SSCN  001
   SLIF-00 REQUEST COMPLETED AT 14:44:59 ON 15.151
  
   Yet, other jobs don't seem to appear until almost the time they need
 to
   run. I
   think it has to do with the SSCAN values, but nothing seems to be
  making
   sense at this point:
   SSCAN
 CURRENT SCHEDULE SCAN VALUES
 
 SPAN = 120 INCREMENT = 60
 QUEUE DWELL = 30  SKELETON RETRY = 0
 REPROMPT= 10
 LEAD TIME   = 0
 STATUS:   REQQ IS ACTIVE  ABR MSGS  = NO
   RDYQ IS ACTIVE  HOLD JOBS = NO
 NEXT SCAN WAKE-UP = 15151 AT 1517
   NEXT SCAN PERIOD START TIME = 15151 AT 1647
  
   --
   Tony Thigpen
  

Check with your CA-7 SYSADMIN - your site will have a GDG-managed CA-7 
event-log file setup to address the question about how/when a job might process 
through the CA-7 system.

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Re: AW: Re: JES2 Exit 23

2015-06-02 Thread John Eells

edgould1...@comcast.net (Ed Gould) wrote:
snip

PSF didn't become available about the 1992 (or there abouts).


As I installed PSF in the 1980's, when APA print was fairly new, I was 
surprised enough by this statement to look it up.


PSF V1 (5665-275) was made available just in time for Christmas in 
1984 (21 December). 1.1 came out in 1985, 1.2 in 1988, and 1.3 in 1989. 
PSF V1 was withdrawn from service in 1992, having been supplanted by PSF 
V2. PSF V1 ran on MVS on 168s and 158s, and later processors (43xx) when 
originally announced.


The current release, available since about this time last year, is PSF 
V4.5 (5655-M32).


Incidentally, PSF's SMF6 records have more content these days, some of 
which was added to make SMF-based accounting easier. Also, PSF 4.5 can 
be installed separately in its own SMP/E zones (it used to be necessary 
to install it in the z/OS zones) and it supports enable/disable via 
IFAPRDxx.


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Re: AW: Re: JES2 Exit 23

2015-06-02 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
John Eells wrote:

The current release, available since about this time last year, is PSF V4.5 
(5655-M32).

Indeed. See the below URL for more info + lifecycle of PSF.

http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?infotype=ddsubtype=smhtmlfid=897/ENUS5655-M32
 

Watch that wrrap of above URL.


Also, PSF 4.5 can be installed separately in its own SMP/E zones (it used to 
be necessary to install it in the z/OS zones) 

Hmmm. Interesting. I believe it will make the life of SMP/E diehards easier... 
;-)

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: New Line vs. Line Feed

2015-06-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 2 Jun 2015 05:48:31 -0500, Bill Godfrey wrote:

I was only referring to \n in the pattern used in awk's general pattern 
{action} syntax, where the pattern
is matched against text being read. I should have qualified my statement.
 
This is a characteristic not of awk's pattern matching but of awk's input
processing.  Awk discards the delimiting \n like gets() rather than
retaining it like fgets().

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Re: Notify for XMIT

2015-06-02 Thread Steve Thompson

Think it is time to change subject lines for this topic drift?

On 06/02/2015 08:49 AM, Joel Ewing wrote:

On 06/01/2015 07:23 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:

In 556b662e.60...@acm.org, on 05/31/2015
at 02:51 PM, Joel Ewing jcew...@acm.org said:


The above CLIST code should presumably work as you expect for
intercepting SEND CLIST errors in an Interactive TSO/E, ISPF
environment where TSO is invoked via a TSO logon PROC as IKJEFT01 and
not as IKJEFT1A or IKJEFT1B.


AFAIK all of IKJEFT01, IKJEFT1A and IKJEFT1B have the same task
structure..



That may well be, but according to IBM and TSO documentation the
behavior of IKJEFT1A/IKJEFT1B is by design slightly different,
specifically for TSO commands that give a non-zero return code that are
running directly under the TMP; and their definition of directly in
this context includes TSO commands executed within a CLIST that is
directly invoked under the TMP.

It doesn't have to be a difference in TCB structure that makes this
behavior of IKJEFT01 vs. IKJEFT1A/IKJEFT1B different, but if you avoid
executing the commands directly under the TMP --e.g., by executing them
from within a REXX EXEC -- you can circumvent that behavioral
difference.  I think one adds a TCB by invoking a REXX EXEC, but
probably more significantly it's no longer the TMP that sees the TSO
Command return code for commands within the EXEC.  The interpretation of
whether a non-zero return code is or is not a fatal error is solely at
the discretion of the calling program, and IKJEFT1A/IKJEFT1B appear to
be designed to regard any non-zero return code they see as fatal.



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Re: Notify for XMIT

2015-06-02 Thread Joel Ewing
On 06/01/2015 07:23 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
 In 556b662e.60...@acm.org, on 05/31/2015
at 02:51 PM, Joel Ewing jcew...@acm.org said:
 
 The above CLIST code should presumably work as you expect for
 intercepting SEND CLIST errors in an Interactive TSO/E, ISPF
 environment where TSO is invoked via a TSO logon PROC as IKJEFT01 and
 not as IKJEFT1A or IKJEFT1B.
 
 AFAIK all of IKJEFT01, IKJEFT1A and IKJEFT1B have the same task
 structure..
  
 
That may well be, but according to IBM and TSO documentation the
behavior of IKJEFT1A/IKJEFT1B is by design slightly different,
specifically for TSO commands that give a non-zero return code that are
running directly under the TMP; and their definition of directly in
this context includes TSO commands executed within a CLIST that is
directly invoked under the TMP.

It doesn't have to be a difference in TCB structure that makes this
behavior of IKJEFT01 vs. IKJEFT1A/IKJEFT1B different, but if you avoid
executing the commands directly under the TMP --e.g., by executing them
from within a REXX EXEC -- you can circumvent that behavioral
difference.  I think one adds a TCB by invoking a REXX EXEC, but
probably more significantly it's no longer the TMP that sees the TSO
Command return code for commands within the EXEC.  The interpretation of
whether a non-zero return code is or is not a fatal error is solely at
the discretion of the calling program, and IKJEFT1A/IKJEFT1B appear to
be designed to regard any non-zero return code they see as fatal.

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Re: Notify for XMIT

2015-06-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 2 Jun 2015 07:49:47 -0500, Joel Ewing wrote:

It doesn't have to be a difference in TCB structure that makes this
behavior of IKJEFT01 vs. IKJEFT1A/IKJEFT1B different, but if you avoid
executing the commands directly under the TMP --e.g., by executing them
from within a REXX EXEC -- you can circumvent that behavioral
difference.  I think one adds a TCB by invoking a REXX EXEC, but
probably more significantly it's no longer the TMP that sees the TSO
Command return code for commands within the EXEC.  The interpretation of
whether a non-zero return code is or is not a fatal error is solely at
the discretion of the calling program, and IKJEFT1A/IKJEFT1B appear to
be designed to regard any non-zero return code they see as fatal.
 
I consider it a design shortcoming that an EXEC can't set the return code
for the IKJEFT01 step.  If it were supported, this could be as simple as:

address TSO 'LOGOFF' code

... causing the job step to complete with code in R15.

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Re: AW: Re: JES2 Exit 23

2015-06-02 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Tue, 2 Jun 2015 07:47:58 -0400, Ed Finnell wrote:

The toner bags were like
18x18x48 and  said when it hit the floor TNF spewed out like a volcano. The
hazmat crew spent  2 days decontaminating the room.

Dammit, Ed stoppit.
I'm trying to concentrate on watching a soccer game with a glass of red in 
front of a fire .

These stories should be playing in a bar, not a list ...   ;-)

Shane ...

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Re: OMVS command history

2015-06-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
(Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: trimmed.)

On Tue, 2 Jun 2015 17:48:13 +0200, Peter Hunkeler wrote:

Well, as I wrote, the OMVS command processor
 
There's more to OMVS than just the shell. The phrase but OMVS has no
access clearly refers to more than the shell.

Not sure what you're referring to, but I was talking about the OMVS *TSO 
command processor*, only. And no, that statement you cited does neither refer 
to a shell nor to anything more than what I wrote: The OMVS TSO Command 
processor has not been programmed to read/write/care for any command history 
file any UNIX shell program might use.

In 3270 TSO OMVS, I can use the escape character (default is ¢) to enter 
control
codes.  So, with set -o vi, I can do ¢[kENTER to execute the fifth 
previous
command.  Unfortunately, it executes the command immediately, rather than just
fetching it to the input area for modification before execution.  I'm calling 
this
a bug; IBM probably thinks it's WAD.  (PF10 (Refresh) doesn't help.)

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Re: IEB814I IEBUPDTE puzzle

2015-06-02 Thread Jim Brooks
From the JCL Reference manual:DISP=OLD MEANS  that the dataset must
already
exist. DISP=MOD  means that if the dataset does not exist, create it - no
JCL error.

I

Regards,
Jim

On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Paul Gilmartin 
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote:

 I have JCL excerpt:
 //*  ...
 //DEL  EXEC PGM=IEFBR14
 //HANDLEDD  DISP=(MOD,DELETE),UNIT=SYSALLDA,
 //  DSN=PFX..CBTINDEX,
 //  SPACE=(80,(,,1)),DSNTYPE=LIBRARY
 //*
 //SPLITIT  EXEC PGM=IEBUPDTE,PARM=NEW
 //SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=(,)
 //SYSIN DD  DISP=OLD,DSN=*.INSERT.OUTPUT
 //HANDLEDD  DISP=(MOD,CATLG),UNIT=SYSALLDA,
 //  DSN=PFX..CBTINDEX,
 //  SPACE=(80,(,,1)),DSNTYPE=LIBRARY
 //SYSUT2DD  DISP=OLD,DSN=*.HANDLE,VOL=REF=*.HANDLE
 //
 ... which fails with SYSPRINT:
 1   SYSINNEW MASTER
 IEBUPDTE LOG PAGE 0001
 -   ./ ADD NAME=
 //MVSMODS1 JOB 527TEC000S0003,TEC,CLASS=8,MSGCLASS=5,PRTY=10,
  DOC FILE
  IEB814I DDNAME SYSUT2   CANNOT BE OPENED.
  IEB818I HIGHEST CONDITION CODE WAS 0012
  IEB819I END OF JOB IEBUPDTE.

 However:
 //*  ...
 //DEL  EXEC PGM=IEFBR14
 //HANDLEDD  DISP=(MOD,DELETE),UNIT=SYSALLDA,
 //  DSN=PFX..CBTINDEX,
 //  SPACE=(80,(,,1)),DSNTYPE=LIBRARY
 //*
 //SPLITIT  EXEC PGM=IEBUPDTE,PARM=NEW
 //SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=(,)
 //SYSIN DD  DISP=OLD,DSN=*.INSERT.OUTPUT
 //SYSUT2DD  DISP=(MOD,CATLG),UNIT=SYSALLDA,
 //  DSN=PFX..CBTINDEX,
 //  SPACE=(80,(,,1)),DSNTYPE=LIBRARY
 //* SUT2DD  DISP=OLD,DSN=*.HANDLE,VOL=REF=*.HANDLE
 //
 ... succeeds and creates the expected few hundred members in SYSUT2.
 What makes the difference?  Is DISP=OLD incompatible with PARM=NEW?
 But DISP=MOD is OK, but in either case the data set is allocated before
 IEBUPDTE is entered.

 Enlighten me?  I've used the referback trick before, but only on DSORG=PS,
 in order to eliminate the (MOD,DELETE) setup step.

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AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: OMVS command history

2015-06-02 Thread Peter Hunkeler
Well, as I wrote, the OMVS command processor
 
There's more to OMVS than just the shell. The phrase but OMVS has no
access clearly refers to more than the shell.


Not sure what you're referring to, but I was talking about the OMVS *TSO 
command processor*, only. And no, that statement you cited does neither refer 
to a shell nor to anything more than what I wrote: The OMVS TSO Command 
processor has not been programmed to read/write/care for any command history 
file any UNIX shell program might use.


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Re: AW: Re: JES2 Exit 23

2015-06-02 Thread Ed Gould

John,

Thanks, I am surprised. Going back to conversations I had with PSF  
level 2, 1. They were surprised at my calling back almost daily on  
bugs. 2. They seem to indicate this was all new code.

They were fairly good at finding the bugs (thank goodness).

Ed

On Jun 2, 2015, at 6:17 AM, John Eells wrote:


edgould1...@comcast.net (Ed Gould) wrote:
snip

PSF didn't become available about the 1992 (or there abouts).


As I installed PSF in the 1980's, when APA print was fairly new, I  
was surprised enough by this statement to look it up.


PSF V1 (5665-275) was made available just in time for Christmas  
in 1984 (21 December). 1.1 came out in 1985, 1.2 in 1988, and 1.3  
in 1989. PSF V1 was withdrawn from service in 1992, having been  
supplanted by PSF V2. PSF V1 ran on MVS on 168s and 158s, and later  
processors (43xx) when originally announced.


The current release, available since about this time last year, is  
PSF V4.5 (5655-M32).


Incidentally, PSF's SMF6 records have more content these days, some  
of which was added to make SMF-based accounting easier. Also, PSF  
4.5 can be installed separately in its own SMP/E zones (it used to  
be necessary to install it in the z/OS zones) and it supports  
enable/disable via IFAPRDxx.


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AW: Re: Cache Fast Write (CFW) - Data in the CFW is *not* mirrored, is it?

2015-06-02 Thread Peter Hunkeler

Where's Ron when we need him ?.


Yep, but what does this help me?


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IEB814I IEBUPDTE puzzle

2015-06-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
I have JCL excerpt:
//*  ...
//DEL  EXEC PGM=IEFBR14
//HANDLEDD  DISP=(MOD,DELETE),UNIT=SYSALLDA,
//  DSN=PFX..CBTINDEX,
//  SPACE=(80,(,,1)),DSNTYPE=LIBRARY
//*
//SPLITIT  EXEC PGM=IEBUPDTE,PARM=NEW
//SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=(,)
//SYSIN DD  DISP=OLD,DSN=*.INSERT.OUTPUT
//HANDLEDD  DISP=(MOD,CATLG),UNIT=SYSALLDA,
//  DSN=PFX..CBTINDEX,
//  SPACE=(80,(,,1)),DSNTYPE=LIBRARY
//SYSUT2DD  DISP=OLD,DSN=*.HANDLE,VOL=REF=*.HANDLE
//
... which fails with SYSPRINT:
1   SYSINNEW MASTER 
   IEBUPDTE LOG PAGE 0001
-   ./ ADD NAME=
//MVSMODS1 JOB 527TEC000S0003,TEC,CLASS=8,MSGCLASS=5,PRTY=10,   
DOC FILE
 IEB814I DDNAME SYSUT2   CANNOT BE OPENED.
 IEB818I HIGHEST CONDITION CODE WAS 0012
 IEB819I END OF JOB IEBUPDTE.

However:
//*  ...
//DEL  EXEC PGM=IEFBR14
//HANDLEDD  DISP=(MOD,DELETE),UNIT=SYSALLDA,
//  DSN=PFX..CBTINDEX,
//  SPACE=(80,(,,1)),DSNTYPE=LIBRARY
//*
//SPLITIT  EXEC PGM=IEBUPDTE,PARM=NEW
//SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=(,)
//SYSIN DD  DISP=OLD,DSN=*.INSERT.OUTPUT
//SYSUT2DD  DISP=(MOD,CATLG),UNIT=SYSALLDA,
//  DSN=PFX..CBTINDEX,
//  SPACE=(80,(,,1)),DSNTYPE=LIBRARY
//* SUT2DD  DISP=OLD,DSN=*.HANDLE,VOL=REF=*.HANDLE
//
... succeeds and creates the expected few hundred members in SYSUT2.
What makes the difference?  Is DISP=OLD incompatible with PARM=NEW?
But DISP=MOD is OK, but in either case the data set is allocated before
IEBUPDTE is entered.

Enlighten me?  I've used the referback trick before, but only on DSORG=PS,
in order to eliminate the (MOD,DELETE) setup step.

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Re: AW: Re: JES2 Exit 23

2015-06-02 Thread Ed Finnell
Yep size of bag. They were made of soft sided quilts and were recycled to  
pull out the toner. TNF is short for chemical composition Tri-nitro 
flouride(?).  It was powdered on 3835 on 3800 it was pellets and there was a
grinder to make the powder. 
 
 
In a message dated 6/2/2015 7:01:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za writes:

18x18x48 - do you mean the size of the bag?

What is  'TNF'? - Acronym Police said amongst a lot of things this jewel - 
'That's Not  Funny.'  
(from http://www.acronymfinder.com)  



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Re: Where can a running TSO program get its terminal name

2015-06-02 Thread Gibney, David Allen,Jr
For some reason, which I can't make work Shmuel believes the 

 In 000701d09bd1$1872a0e0$4957e2a0$@mcn.org, on 05/31/2015

He always includes is of value. Where this link may lead is not anywhere I can 
seem to get to :)

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 In 000701d09bd1$1872a0e0$4957e2a0$@mcn.org, on 05/31/2015
at 11:39 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said:
 
 The master of the out-of-context quote.
 
 Not even close; the context was clearly IEABRCX. By all means use it blindly;
 it's not my dog.
 
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