date:20150930

Re: (External):Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

2015-09-30 Thread Ron Hawkins

Peter,

Space constraint relief is part of the DATACLAS construct, not the Storage
Class. These are the collective functions that will cause SPACE requests to
be overridden, space reduction, and additional volumes to be added to you
dataset.

You will need to use a DATACLAS that has Space Constraint Relief and
Override Space set to "NO".

If ACC/SRS is the cause of the problem I recall there is a JCL statement
that can be added to the step that will cause ACC/SRS to leave the datasets
alone. However I don't remember what that DD statement is.

Ron



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To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] (External):Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM
KSDS to one volume?

If you do a F DIF,STATUS from the SDSF console you should see if it is
active and what components are active.

Lizette

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> one volume?
> 
> I have reached out to that organization, but getting an answer to such 
> a non- emergency question may take days or more.  Hence my attempt to 
> find a way to
do
> it a bit sooner from the expertise on this list.
> 
> Peter
> 
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> one volume?
> 
> I'm guessing that most shops have some STORCLASS that bypasses at 
> least some SMS rules. We have NULL. That bypasses volser assignment, but
not all rules.
In the
> absence of ISMF, you really need to get direction from your storage admin.
> 
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Re: Self-service PC

2015-09-30 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler

charl...@mcn.org (Charles Mills) writes:
> Agreed. I did an HR systems evaluation a few years back (why is a
> coder evaluating HR systems? Don't ask.) and all were big on
> "self-service," by which they meant if an employee, for example,
> wanted to know how many vacation days s/he had in the bank, s/he did
> not have to call HR, s/he just signed onto the HR system with a Web
> browser (and with "role-based authority" much lower than an HR person)
> and looked.

20yrs ago it was webifying callcenter menu screens ... had to have
computerized-based authentication front-end and restricting access to
information just for the authenticated entity. it has been 20yrs of
reducing callcenter use (not having real person at the other end).

slight topic drift ... 20yrs ago, consumer dailup online banking
operations were making presentations at financial conferences on
motivation for moving to the internet; primarily development
costs for proprietary modem drivers (at the time >60 drivers were
typical) and dialup infrastructure, enormous support costs associated
with serial-port modems, etc ... all gets offloaded to ISP. Note at the
same time, the commercial dialup online banking operations were saying
that they would *NEVER* move to the internet because of a long list of
exploits and vulnerabilities (many that presist to this day) ... as an
aside, the commercial dialup online banking operations have subsequently
moved to the internet anyway.

self-service PCs in the past were typically associated with "kiosk",
library, etc, public PCs that anybody can walk up to (like store
machines looking for stock &/or price check) ... as opposed to the
webifying callcenter operations.

I had some number of meetings with the NIST rbac people in the 90s
http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/SNS/rbac/

at the time, it was much more oriented towards simplifying security
office handing out fine-grain access ... and codifying multi-party
operations as countermeasure to insider threats (no single person had
sufficient authority to complete any high-value operation).

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Re: (External):Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

2015-09-30 Thread Farley, Peter x23353

Thanks Ron.  Another user emailed me privately about that DD statement (ACCIGN 
DD DUMMY), which of course was not set to the default value here, but I have 
actually heard back from my storage admins what the non-default value here 
really is, so now I can fill the file and keep it from extending.

Thank you all for your kind assistance and education of my ignorance.

Peter

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Subject: Re: (External):Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one 
volume?

Peter,

Space constraint relief is part of the DATACLAS construct, not the Storage
Class. These are the collective functions that will cause SPACE requests to
be overridden, space reduction, and additional volumes to be added to you
dataset.

You will need to use a DATACLAS that has Space Constraint Relief and
Override Space set to "NO".

If ACC/SRS is the cause of the problem I recall there is a JCL statement
that can be added to the step that will cause ACC/SRS to leave the datasets
alone. However I don't remember what that DD statement is.

Ron



-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 10:14 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] (External):Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM
KSDS to one volume?

If you do a F DIF,STATUS from the SDSF console you should see if it is
active and what components are active.

Lizette

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
> On Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 9:57 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: (External):Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to 
> one volume?
> 
> I have reached out to that organization, but getting an answer to such 
> a non- emergency question may take days or more.  Hence my attempt to 
> find a way to
do
> it a bit sooner from the expertise on this list.
> 
> Peter
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
> On Behalf Of J O Skip Robinson
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 12:45 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: (External):Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to 
> one volume?
> 
> I'm guessing that most shops have some STORCLASS that bypasses at 
> least some SMS rules. We have NULL. That bypasses volser assignment, but
not all rules.
In the
> absence of ISMF, you really need to get direction from your storage admin.
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Re: More "ageing mainframe" (bad) press.

2015-09-30 Thread Shane Ginnane

On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 15:31:13 +0800, David Crayford  wrote:

>CentreLink is a 26,000 MIP customer
>http://www.techworld.com.au/article/303153/centrelink_ups_it_reform_keeps_model_204_legacy_/?pp=2.
>Phew, that's going to be a big blow for big blue when they move off.

Nope.
At that time (2009) Centrelink might (might ?) have been. It is now an 
amalgamation of Medibank and sundry others. Bigger and badder by large.
We as a community can not afford to lose this puppy. It was Amdahls trumpeted 
catch (along with quaint-arse) and look what happened to them.
If this goes, there is *NO* future for z/OS in Aus - simple as that.

Shane ...

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Re: More "ageing mainframe" (bad) press.

2015-09-30 Thread David Crayford

CentreLink is a 26,000 MIP customer 
http://www.techworld.com.au/article/303153/centrelink_ups_it_reform_keeps_model_204_legacy_/?pp=2. 
Phew, that's going to be a big blow for big blue when they move off.



On 27/09/2015 2:48 PM, Anthony Thompson wrote:

The big one in that is the Australian Federal Government's CentreLink. They are 
attempting to replace a mainframe-based solution with a SAP solution.

The then Federal Treasurer, the esteemed Mr. Joe Hocking (now out on his arse 
after we got a new Prime Minister), claimed it was because the applications 
were running on old IBM hardware. Simply untrue, they have z196's (not the 
latest and greatest), but the applications ran on the Model 204 database.  I 
think the only other organization on the planet that still runs Model 204 
applications is the US Department of Defence.

I'm pretty sure that $1.5 billion is going to blow out to a crapload more than 
that. Here, in my 'state' government, we attempted to replace a government 
asset control suite of mainframe applications with SAP. At a projected cost of 
$5 million. $70 million of tax payers money and five years later, they gave up 
and went back to the mainframe.

Allegorically, I've heard that 70% of major mainframe applications conversions 
to little-box SAP solutions fail (a Gartner statistic?).

Ant.

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Of Shane Ginnane
Sent: Friday, 25 September 2015 7:39 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: More "ageing mainframe" (bad) press.

http://www.itnews.com.au/news/the-top-five-green-screen-systems-that-run-australia-409614

Some large (by Aussie standards) mainframe customers that may be no more in the 
foreseeable future.

Shane ...

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OSMF server startup error

2015-09-30 Thread Mark Pace

Trying to start OSMF for the first time.  It appeared that all the setup
ran cleanly.

The first task starts up.
CWWKB0056I INITIALIZATION COMPLETE FOR ANGEL

But the IZUSVR1 dies

Launching zosmfServer (wlp-1.0.2.cl0220130714-1602/websphere-kernel_1.0.2)
on IBM J9 VM, version pmz6470-20110827_01 (en_US)
AUDIT   ¨ CWWKE0001I: The server zosmfServer has been
launched.

AUDIT   ¨ CWWKG0010I: The server zosmfServer is shutting down because of a
previous initialization error.
AUDIT   ¨ CWWKE0036I: The server zosmfServer stopped after 2.443
seconds.
ERROR   ¨ CWWKG0047E: An error occurred while attempting to verify a
configuration document:
file:/SYSTEM/etc/zosmf/servers/zosmfServer/server.xml, Hardware error from
call CSNDDSV returnCode 12 reasonCode 11060.

FATAL   ¨ CWWKG0044E: Server shutdown because a configuration document does
not contain a valid signature:
file:/SYSTEM/etc/zosmf/servers/zosmfServer/server.xml

The documentation basically says something did work, fix it.  During the
configuration I replied that I wanted a CA to be created. Has anyone seen
this error and point in the right direction?
I also don't get this Hardware error.
CWWKG0044E: Server shutdown because a configuration document does not
contain a valid signature: {0}. *Explanation* The designated configuration
document does not contain a valid signature, or a portion of the document
that is protected by the signature has been modified. This message is
preceded by an error message that provides more information on the specific
error in the document. *Action* Correct the error in the configuration
document that was identified in the preceding error message.
CWWKG0047E: An error occurred while attempting to verify a configuration
document: {0}, {1}. *Explanation* An exception was thrown while attempting
to verify that the designated configuration document contains a valid
signature. *Action* Correct the error in the configuration document that is
causing the exception to be thrown and then retry starting the server.

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Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

2015-09-30 Thread Thomas Conley

On 9/30/2015 12:25 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote:

I need some advice from storage gurus. I need to make a tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS that will NOT
extend, neither to secondary space on the first volume nor to secondary volumes. I need to test
some error logic in an application program and I need a "file full" or "no more
space" condition to test it.

I have these parameters in the define cluster command:

VOLUME(*) CYL (1 0)

But when I try to fill up that file with IDCAMS REPRO so that there is no more
room for any records by copying from a similar file with many records into the
tiny one, it automatically extends to new volumes, with messages like this:

SMS4000I TSOUSERZ, MKTSTFIL, SYS1, ATTEMPTING SPACVOLA FOR TSOUSER.
TINY.DATA, XX, 1
SMS4400I VOLUME ADDED - OLD VOLUME XX, NEW VOLUME SMS . VOLUME COUNT IS 2

I assume this is due to some hidden parameter in the STORCLAS that overrides my
specification of only one candidate volume.

My question is, how do I override that hidden STORCLAS parameter to force a
no-more-space error here? I deliberately want the attempt to add one more
record to force an error.

I do NOT have easy access to a storage admin on this system, so I need help
from you. ISMF is not available in my TSO menus, so I cannot check the
STORCLAS for myself.

TIA for any help you can offer.

Peter,

Add a //ACCIGN DD DUMMY to your allocation and run JCL to bypass ACC/SRS
processing.

Regards,
Tom Conley

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Re: OSMF server startup error

2015-09-30 Thread Staller, Allan

Has SSH already been set up?

It is possible the specified encryption algorithm is not supported, 
CSFSERV/DIGTCERT/DIGTRING classes are not active, permissions to IRR.DIGTCERT.* 
resources in the facility class not defined/permitted.  

I am going through a setup of SSH and have hit all of the above issues in the 
last couple of weeks. 
There is a boatload of RACF work to be done to setup SSH and it all needs to be 
correct. Check your system logs for ICH messages related to ZOSMF.


By CA, do you mean CA = "CERTIFICATE AUTHORITY" or CA= certificate

*IF* CA = "CERTIFICATE AUTORITY" there is a whole chain of verifications that 
are performed ending (I would expect) at a commercial Certificate Authority 
such as VERISIGN.

If CA= certificate ,you could try a self-signed certificate. 

HTH,

 

Trying to start OSMF for the first time.  It appeared that all the setup ran 
cleanly.

The first task starts up.
CWWKB0056I INITIALIZATION COMPLETE FOR ANGEL

But the IZUSVR1 dies

Launching zosmfServer (wlp-1.0.2.cl0220130714-1602/websphere-kernel_1.0.2)
on IBM J9 VM, version pmz6470-20110827_01 (en_US)
AUDIT   ¨ CWWKE0001I: The server zosmfServer has been
launched.

AUDIT   ¨ CWWKG0010I: The server zosmfServer is shutting down because of a
previous initialization error.
AUDIT   ¨ CWWKE0036I: The server zosmfServer stopped after 2.443
seconds.
ERROR   ¨ CWWKG0047E: An error occurred while attempting to verify a
configuration document:
file:/SYSTEM/etc/zosmf/servers/zosmfServer/server.xml, Hardware error from call 
CSNDDSV returnCode 12 reasonCode 11060.

FATAL   ¨ CWWKG0044E: Server shutdown because a configuration document does
not contain a valid signature:
file:/SYSTEM/etc/zosmf/servers/zosmfServer/server.xml

The documentation basically says something did work, fix it.  During the 
configuration I replied that I wanted a CA to be created. Has anyone seen this 
error and point in the right direction?
I also don't get this Hardware error.
CWWKG0044E: Server shutdown because a configuration document does not contain a 
valid signature: {0}. *Explanation* The designated configuration document does 
not contain a valid signature, or a portion of the document that is protected 
by the signature has been modified. This message is preceded by an error 
message that provides more information on the specific error in the document. 
*Action* Correct the error in the configuration document that was identified in 
the preceding error message.
CWWKG0047E: An error occurred while attempting to verify a configuration
document: {0}, {1}. *Explanation* An exception was thrown while attempting to 
verify that the designated configuration document contains a valid signature. 
*Action* Correct the error in the configuration document that is causing the 
exception to be thrown and then retry starting the server.


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Re: OSMF server startup error

2015-09-30 Thread Mark Pace

Yes, SSH is setup.  I used a PuTTY SSH session to run the configuration
tools for OSMF.  I agree, I should review all the RACF requirements that
configuration created.

By CA the configuration does this.




*Indicates whether (Y or N) the z/OSMF security setupshould include the
creation of a Certificate Authority(CA). The CA is used to sign server
certificates that areused for secure (SSL) communication between the
user’sweb browser and the z/OSMF server. Y is the default.*

On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Staller, Allan 
wrote:

> Has SSH already been set up?
>
> It is possible the specified encryption algorithm is not supported,
> CSFSERV/DIGTCERT/DIGTRING classes are not active, permissions to
> IRR.DIGTCERT.* resources in the facility class not defined/permitted.
>
> I am going through a setup of SSH and have hit all of the above issues in
> the last couple of weeks.
> There is a boatload of RACF work to be done to setup SSH and it all needs
> to be correct. Check your system logs for ICH messages related to ZOSMF.
>
>
> By CA, do you mean CA = "CERTIFICATE AUTHORITY" or CA= certificate
>
> *IF* CA = "CERTIFICATE AUTORITY" there is a whole chain of verifications
> that are performed ending (I would expect) at a commercial Certificate
> Authority such as VERISIGN.
>
> If CA= certificate ,you could try a self-signed certificate.
>
> HTH,
>
>
> 
> Trying to start OSMF for the first time.  It appeared that all the setup
> ran cleanly.
>
> The first task starts up.
> CWWKB0056I INITIALIZATION COMPLETE FOR ANGEL
>
> But the IZUSVR1 dies
>
> Launching zosmfServer (wlp-1.0.2.cl0220130714-1602/websphere-kernel_1.0.2)
> on IBM J9 VM, version pmz6470-20110827_01 (en_US)
> AUDIT   ¨ CWWKE0001I: The server zosmfServer has been
> launched.
>
> AUDIT   ¨ CWWKG0010I: The server zosmfServer is shutting down because of a
> previous initialization error.
> AUDIT   ¨ CWWKE0036I: The server zosmfServer stopped after 2.443
> seconds.
> ERROR   ¨ CWWKG0047E: An error occurred while attempting to verify a
> configuration document:
> file:/SYSTEM/etc/zosmf/servers/zosmfServer/server.xml, Hardware error from
> call CSNDDSV returnCode 12 reasonCode 11060.
>
> FATAL   ¨ CWWKG0044E: Server shutdown because a configuration document does
> not contain a valid signature:
> file:/SYSTEM/etc/zosmf/servers/zosmfServer/server.xml
>
> The documentation basically says something did work, fix it.  During the
> configuration I replied that I wanted a CA to be created. Has anyone seen
> this error and point in the right direction?
> I also don't get this Hardware error.
> CWWKG0044E: Server shutdown because a configuration document does not
> contain a valid signature: {0}. *Explanation* The designated configuration
> document does not contain a valid signature, or a portion of the document
> that is protected by the signature has been modified. This message is
> preceded by an error message that provides more information on the specific
> error in the document. *Action* Correct the error in the configuration
> document that was identified in the preceding error message.
> CWWKG0047E: An error occurred while attempting to verify a configuration
> document: {0}, {1}. *Explanation* An exception was thrown while attempting
> to verify that the designated configuration document contains a valid
> signature. *Action* Correct the error in the configuration document that is
> causing the exception to be thrown and then retry starting the server.
> 
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Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

2015-09-30 Thread Thomas Conley


On 9/30/2015 4:31 PM, Thomas Conley wrote:

On 9/30/2015 12:25 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote:

I need some advice from storage gurus.  I need to make a tiny
SMS-managed VSAM KSDS that will NOT extend, neither to secondary space
on the first volume nor to secondary volumes.  I need to test some
error logic in an application program and I need a "file full" or "no
more space" condition to test it.

I have these parameters in the define cluster command:

VOLUME(*) CYL (1 0)

But when I try to fill up that file with IDCAMS REPRO so that there is
no more room for any records by copying from a similar file with many
records into the tiny one, it automatically extends to new volumes,
with messages like this:

SMS4000I TSOUSERZ, MKTSTFIL, SYS1, ATTEMPTING SPACVOLA FOR
TSOUSER. TINY.DATA, XX, 1
SMS4400I VOLUME ADDED - OLD VOLUME XX, NEW VOLUME SMS . VOLUME
COUNT IS 2

I assume this is due to some hidden parameter in the STORCLAS that
overrides my specification of only one candidate volume.

My question is, how do I override that hidden STORCLAS parameter to
force a no-more-space error here?  I deliberately want the attempt to
add one more record to force an error.

I do NOT have easy access to a storage admin on this system, so I need
help from you.  ISMF is not available in my TSO menus, so I cannot
check the STORCLAS for myself.

TIA for any help you can offer.



Peter,

Add a //ACCIGN DD DUMMY to your allocation and run JCL to bypass ACC/SRS
processing.

Regards,
Tom Conley



Oops, I saw earlier that these were ACC/SRS messages, but I see now that 
they're Stop X37 ProSMS messages.  In that case, try //PROIGN DD DUMMY 
or if that doesn't work //NOPLD DD DUMMY.


Regards,
Tom Conley

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Re: OSMF server startup error

2015-09-30 Thread Mark Pace

One last piece of information - this system runs as a guest of z/VM.

On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Mark Pace  wrote:

> One other piece of information - the reasonCode
> 2B34 (11060) The service could not be performed because the required
> PCICC, PCIXCC, CEX2C, or CEX3C was not active, or did not have a master key
> set.
>
> *User action*: If the service required a specific PCICC, PCIXCC, CEX2C,
> or CEX3C, verify that the value specified is correct. Reissue the request
> when the required PCICC, PCIXCC, CEX2C, or CEX3C is available, and has the
> master key set.
> No idea what any of this means.
>
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Mark Pace  wrote:
>
>> Trying to start OSMF for the first time.  It appeared that all the setup
>> ran cleanly.
>>
>> The first task starts up.
>> CWWKB0056I INITIALIZATION COMPLETE FOR ANGEL
>>
>> But the IZUSVR1 dies
>>
>> Launching zosmfServer
>> (wlp-1.0.2.cl0220130714-1602/websphere-kernel_1.0.2) on IBM J9 VM, version
>> pmz6470-20110827_01 (en_US)
>> AUDIT   ¨ CWWKE0001I: The server zosmfServer has been
>> launched.
>>
>> AUDIT   ¨ CWWKG0010I: The server zosmfServer is shutting down because of
>> a previous initialization error.
>> AUDIT   ¨ CWWKE0036I: The server zosmfServer stopped after 2.443
>> seconds.
>> ERROR   ¨ CWWKG0047E: An error occurred while attempting to verify a
>> configuration document:
>> file:/SYSTEM/etc/zosmf/servers/zosmfServer/server.xml, Hardware error from
>> call CSNDDSV returnCode 12 reasonCode 11060.
>>
>> FATAL   ¨ CWWKG0044E: Server shutdown because a configuration document
>> does not contain a valid signature:
>> file:/SYSTEM/etc/zosmf/servers/zosmfServer/server.xml
>>
>> The documentation basically says something did work, fix it.  During the
>> configuration I replied that I wanted a CA to be created. Has anyone seen
>> this error and point in the right direction?
>> I also don't get this Hardware error.
>> CWWKG0044E: Server shutdown because a configuration document does not
>> contain a valid signature: {0}. *Explanation* The designated
>> configuration document does not contain a valid signature, or a portion of
>> the document that is protected by the signature has been modified. This
>> message is preceded by an error message that provides more information on
>> the specific error in the document. *Action* Correct the error in the
>> configuration document that was identified in the preceding error message.
>> CWWKG0047E: An error occurred while attempting to verify a configuration
>> document: {0}, {1}. *Explanation* An exception was thrown while
>> attempting to verify that the designated configuration document contains a
>> valid signature. *Action* Correct the error in the configuration
>> document that is causing the exception to be thrown and then retry starting
>> the server.
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Re: OSMF server startup error

2015-09-30 Thread Mark Pace

One other piece of information - the reasonCode
2B34 (11060) The service could not be performed because the required PCICC,
PCIXCC, CEX2C, or CEX3C was not active, or did not have a master key set.

*User action*: If the service required a specific PCICC, PCIXCC, CEX2C, or
CEX3C, verify that the value specified is correct. Reissue the request when
the required PCICC, PCIXCC, CEX2C, or CEX3C is available, and has the
master key set.
No idea what any of this means.

On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Mark Pace  wrote:

> Trying to start OSMF for the first time.  It appeared that all the setup
> ran cleanly.
>
> The first task starts up.
> CWWKB0056I INITIALIZATION COMPLETE FOR ANGEL
>
> But the IZUSVR1 dies
>
> Launching zosmfServer (wlp-1.0.2.cl0220130714-1602/websphere-kernel_1.0.2)
> on IBM J9 VM, version pmz6470-20110827_01 (en_US)
> AUDIT   ¨ CWWKE0001I: The server zosmfServer has been
> launched.
>
> AUDIT   ¨ CWWKG0010I: The server zosmfServer is shutting down because of a
> previous initialization error.
> AUDIT   ¨ CWWKE0036I: The server zosmfServer stopped after 2.443
> seconds.
> ERROR   ¨ CWWKG0047E: An error occurred while attempting to verify a
> configuration document:
> file:/SYSTEM/etc/zosmf/servers/zosmfServer/server.xml, Hardware error from
> call CSNDDSV returnCode 12 reasonCode 11060.
>
> FATAL   ¨ CWWKG0044E: Server shutdown because a configuration document
> does not contain a valid signature:
> file:/SYSTEM/etc/zosmf/servers/zosmfServer/server.xml
>
> The documentation basically says something did work, fix it.  During the
> configuration I replied that I wanted a CA to be created. Has anyone seen
> this error and point in the right direction?
> I also don't get this Hardware error.
> CWWKG0044E: Server shutdown because a configuration document does not
> contain a valid signature: {0}. *Explanation* The designated
> configuration document does not contain a valid signature, or a portion of
> the document that is protected by the signature has been modified. This
> message is preceded by an error message that provides more information on
> the specific error in the document. *Action* Correct the error in the
> configuration document that was identified in the preceding error message.
> CWWKG0047E: An error occurred while attempting to verify a configuration
> document: {0}, {1}. *Explanation* An exception was thrown while
> attempting to verify that the designated configuration document contains a
> valid signature. *Action* Correct the error in the configuration document
> that is causing the exception to be thrown and then retry starting the
> server.
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Re: So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish

2015-09-30 Thread Aled Hughes

All the best Mark, and if you do "retire", I know that the fishing off Gandy 
Bridge is great! 

ALH

 

 

 

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Sent: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 22:45
Subject: So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish


This is the last week that Time Inc employees will be responsible for 
our zOS
and zVM Tampa Data Center. Support and services is being 
outsourced to IBM and
AT, and sometime in 2016 our mainframe LPARs 
will be moved to IBM's zCloud
environment. I'm one of the few Data 
Center employees being retained (for
now), but I'm not going to be 
directly responsible for the zOS environments
I've lovingly supported 
for 20 years after Friday.

I'll still be subscribed
to the mailing list, but without being involved 
in new and interesting "stuff"
going forward my ability to contribute 
might be limited.
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Re: IBM Electronic Service Agent V1.2

2015-09-30 Thread John Eells

The technical owner of the function was out of the office, but on his 
return he said of this product:


"It's mainly hardware i/o errors for DASD and legacy tape drives, plus 
software inventory and allowing customers to request Hiper/PE report and 
PTFs for selected SMP/E zones. That they can get using SMP/E functions, 
or Shop z service options."


I think EREP, z/OSMF Software Management, SMP/E reports, RECEIVE ORDER, 
and Shopz likely replace all of these things effectively.  And, like 
Service Agent, "the price is right," as all are base z/OS functions in 
z/OS V2.2 and (for z/OSMF) available at no additional charge for z/OS 
V1.13 and z/OS V2.1.


I hope you agree that you don't need it any more!

Richards, Robert B. wrote:

Good Question!

I do not have a good answer. I have assumed it was is use for additional "phone 
home" capability/information.

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Subject: Re: IBM Electronic Service Agent V1.2

Richards, Robert B. wrote:

I received a notice that the product IBM Electronic Service Agent 1.2 
(5655-F17) is being discontinued September 30th, 2016. I went looking for 
replacement information and found a webpage that had no replacement indicated 
under a column of that heading.

Is there some other product that I should have to provide its functionality in 
lieu of a replacement?  At least they are giving plenty of lead time to resolve 
this.


What are you using it for?



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Re: OSPF reporting failure of Hello messages for 10 minutes

2015-09-30 Thread Mike Wawiorko

Make sure your OMPROUTE task is running in a high priority service class.

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BOOKMGR server

2015-09-30 Thread Bob Rinda

Dana,

To solve the "CEE3501S The module liblogwrtB.so was not found" condition,
ensure that the corresponding httpd.envvars file has the correct LIBPATH
setting -- particularly that it contains a leading "." (without quotes)
for the current working directory. Here's a sample LIBPATH setting
that should appear in the httpd.envvars file for the httpd server
handling Library Server requests:
 
LIBPATH=.:/usr/lpp/ixm/IBM/xml4c-5_7/lib:/usr/lpp/internet/bin:/usr/lpp/
internet/sbin:/usr/lpp/ldap/lib:/u/bkmgrs/java60.31bit/J6.0.1/lib:/u/bkm
grs/java60.31bit/J6.0.1/bin

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Re: IBM Electronic Service Agent V1.2

2015-09-30 Thread Richards, Robert B.

John,

Thanks for the answer.  Your hope is validated. I do agree!   :-)

Bob

-Original Message-
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Of John Eells
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 6:57 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: IBM Electronic Service Agent V1.2

The technical owner of the function was out of the office, but on his return he 
said of this product:

"It's mainly hardware i/o errors for DASD and legacy tape drives, plus software 
inventory and allowing customers to request Hiper/PE report and PTFs for 
selected SMP/E zones. That they can get using SMP/E functions, or Shop z 
service options."

I think EREP, z/OSMF Software Management, SMP/E reports, RECEIVE ORDER, and 
Shopz likely replace all of these things effectively.  And, like Service Agent, 
"the price is right," as all are base z/OS functions in z/OS V2.2 and (for 
z/OSMF) available at no additional charge for z/OS
V1.13 and z/OS V2.1.

I hope you agree that you don't need it any more!

Richards, Robert B. wrote:
> Good Question!
>
> I do not have a good answer. I have assumed it was is use for additional 
> "phone home" capability/information.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
> On Behalf Of John Eells
> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 6:30 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: IBM Electronic Service Agent V1.2
>
> Richards, Robert B. wrote:
>> I received a notice that the product IBM Electronic Service Agent 1.2 
>> (5655-F17) is being discontinued September 30th, 2016. I went looking for 
>> replacement information and found a webpage that had no replacement 
>> indicated under a column of that heading.
>>
>> Is there some other product that I should have to provide its functionality 
>> in lieu of a replacement?  At least they are giving plenty of lead time to 
>> resolve this.
>
> What are you using it for?

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Re: Way to change a PROC to add a concatenation to existing DD?

2015-09-30 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)

In
,
on 09/29/2015
   at 03:50 PM, Kirk Wolf  said:

>So, instead we would want:

>//STDENV  DD DDNAME=MYENV
>// DD DISP=SHR,DSN=INST.ADD.JAVA.STDENV

>but this would require that all JCL that used this PROC would need to
>change their DD:STDENV to DD:MYENV.

No. But you might need a DCB parameter if you don't supply a //MYENV
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Re: Way to change a PROC to add a concatenation to existing DD?

2015-09-30 Thread Bob Rutledge

I'd use

 //STDENV  DD DDNAME=STDENV
 //DD DISP=SHR,DSN=INST.ADD.JAVA.STDENV

in the proc.  Yes, it works.

Bob 

IBM Mainframe Discussion List  wrote on 
09/29/2015 04:50:54 PM:

> From: Kirk Wolf 
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Date: 09/29/2015 04:51 PM
> Subject: Way to change a PROC to add a concatenation to existing DD?
> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> 
> Consider an existing PROC:
> 
> //JVMPRC80 PROC JAVACLS=, < Fully Qfied Java class..RQD
> // ARGS=, < Args to Java class
> // LIBRARY=?.JZOS.LOADLIB?, < STEPLIB FOR JVMLDM module
> // VERSION=?80?, < JVMLDM version: 80
> // LOGLVL=??, < Debug LVL: +I(info) +T(trc)
> // REGSIZE=?0M?, < EXECUTION REGION SIZE
> // LEPARM=??
> //JAVAJVM EXEC PGM=JVMLDM,REGION=,
> // PARM=?/  ?
> //STEPLIB DD DSN=,DISP=SHR
> //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* < System stdout
> //SYSOUT DD SYSOUT=* < System stderr
> //STDOUT DD SYSOUT=* < Java System.out
> //STDERR DD SYSOUT=* < Java System.err
> //CEEDUMP DD SYSOUT=*
> //ABNLIGNR DD DUMMY
> //*
> //*The following DDs can/should be present in the calling JCL
> //*
> //*STDIN DD < OPTIONAL - Java System.in
> //*STDENV DD < REQUIRED - JVM Environment script
> //*MAINARGS DD < OPTIONAL - Alt. method to supply args
> // PEND
> 
> 
> STDENV is a DD that is opened by the program (JVMLDM80).
> 
> An installation would like to be able to automatically add control
> statements to the end of this DD, without changing the JCL.
> 
> So, instead we would want:
> 
> //STDENV  DD DDNAME=MYENV
> // DD DISP=SHR,DSN=INST.ADD.JAVA.STDENV
> 
> but this would require that all JCL that used this PROC would need to
> change their DD:STDENV to DD:MYENV.
> 
> Here's my question:  is there a way to change the PROC so that the JCL 
that
> uses it does not need to be changed?   Its even OK to front-end the
> JVMLDM80 program with an installation-written program that does 
something
> and then invokes JVMLDM80.Its not possible (or desirable) to change
> JVMLDM80.
> 
> Maybe a front-end program that uses SVC99 to reallocate STDENV as the
> concatenation?   I'm not sure if this can be done without freeing the
> existing STDENV DD.   I guess that the front-end program could 
create a
> temporary dataset and then copy the existing STDENV DD to it and then 
free
> STDENV and then reallocate the concatenation
> 
> Thanks in advance for any better suggestions.
> 
> Kirk Wolf
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> mA=QUNbpGQ8IoUh0oGUmu8eaMhKeADVwEw1926HSV3ksM4=42Ti-
> zKADLBk2WsfnoN0vSaVICHS65AbeRkVa9EhWY4=3oi4FGfFPVhvsPqjo-
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Re: More "ageing mainframe" (bad) press.

2015-09-30 Thread David Crayford

On 30/09/2015 4:37 PM, Shane Ginnane wrote:

On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 15:31:13 +0800, David Crayford wrote:

CentreLink is a 26,000 MIP customer
http://www.techworld.com.au/article/303153/centrelink_ups_it_reform_keeps_model_204_legacy_/?pp=2.
Phew, that's going to be a big blow for big blue when they move off.

Nope.
At that time (2009) Centrelink might (might ?) have been. It is now an
amalgamation of Medibank and sundry others. Bigger and badder by large.
We as a community can not afford to lose this puppy. It was Amdahls trumpeted
catch (along with quaint-arse) and look what happened to them.
If this goes, there is *NO* future for z/OS in Aus - simple as that.

I had no idea they were so huge! An IT budget of $400m six years ago so
add another $100m to that by now. I predict a disaster trying to migrate
off a system of that scale. Government IT projects always fail
and that's a big, big project. The talk is of a requirement for new
systems that can handle self-service but why can't they just integrate?
The UK government has blown billions of pounds on over ambitious IT projects
for the NHS that were doomed from the start. The aussie government
should take note! The only winners in government IT projects are vendors.

WA is a bit of a basket case wrt z/OS. When I first rocked up in 1998
the company I work for also had a FM wing which looked after about 15
mainframe customers, mainly government. They're all gone
now. WA police, Main Roads, ICWA (who re-platformed from a small BC z9
to a single blade server
http://www.itnews.com.au/news/wa-insurance-commission-decommissions-mainframe-322780).
The only
two z/OS sites left in Perth are Bankwest and HBF. I've been over east
several times to conferences in Melbourne/Sydney and conversations with
the customers (banks) are depressing. They all have mainframe
exit strategies. I was told that ANZ spent in the region of $300M trying
to get off and failed miserably. Everybody wants off!

Shane ...

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Re: BOOKMGR server

2015-09-30 Thread Dana Mitchell

Bob,

That was it!   Thanks

Dana


On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 05:42:24 -0500, Bob Rinda  wrote:

>ensure that the corresponding httpd.envvars file has the correct LIBPATH
>setting -- particularly that it contains a leading "." (without quotes)
>for the current working directory.

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Re: Parmlib syntax check macro

2015-09-30 Thread Peter Relson

The tool available via SPPPACK is primarily intended to help you build a 
correct LOADxx.

It also lets you do such things as view symbol-substitution effects in 
parmlib members.

It happens to do syntax checking of IEASYSxx (for the most part) and some 
of the GRS members. 
I think that's all the syntax checking that is done. 

Thus it would be misleading to think of this as a parmlib syntax checking 
tool.

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z/OS Core Technology Design

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Re: Parmlib syntax check macro

2015-09-30 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht

Peter Relson wrote:

>Thus it would be misleading to think of this as a parmlib syntax checking tool.

and Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz wrote:

>Well, I used it as one, for the members that it supported. As I wrote, limited 
>but still usefull.

I agree with both. If you have, say 10 groups of members each with their own 
unique syntax, you may need about 10 checkers *if they're available and 
useful*. 

In fact, the OP asked for a [* I believe a 'general' *] syntax checker, perhaps 
in a isredit macro format.

AFAIK - there is no such thing, unless it was developed by someone or a vendor 
and we don't just know about it.

I see from this thread - there are various syntax checkers (vendor supplied, 
IBM supplied, HILITE function, REXX/Assembler programs, custom written 
utilities, freebies, console commands, IEIBALL, etc.), but ...

... all of them are only for specific members they're intended to work on.

IEIBALL? Hmmm, you have to provide your own IEIBALL or use a second set from 
your friend - no vendors available. ;-D

Groete / Greetings
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Re: Parmlib syntax check macro

2015-09-30 Thread Andrew Metcalfe

You may like to look at ImageFocus from Newera. It has more bells & whistles 
than just a syntax checker. However it is not a no-cost option!

Andrew Metcalfe

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Sent: 30 September 2015 13:37
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Parmlib syntax check macro

Peter Relson wrote:

>Thus it would be misleading to think of this as a parmlib syntax checking tool.

and Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz wrote:

>Well, I used it as one, for the members that it supported. As I wrote, limited 
>but still usefull.

I agree with both. If you have, say 10 groups of members each with their own 
unique syntax, you may need about 10 checkers *if they're available and 
useful*. 

In fact, the OP asked for a [* I believe a 'general' *] syntax checker, perhaps 
in a isredit macro format.

AFAIK - there is no such thing, unless it was developed by someone or a vendor 
and we don't just know about it.

I see from this thread - there are various syntax checkers (vendor supplied, 
IBM supplied, HILITE function, REXX/Assembler programs, custom written 
utilities, freebies, console commands, IEIBALL, etc.), but ...

... all of them are only for specific members they're intended to work on.

IEIBALL? Hmmm, you have to provide your own IEIBALL or use a second set from 
your friend - no vendors available. ;-D

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: Parmlib syntax check macro

2015-09-30 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)

In
,
on 09/30/2015
   at 08:06 AM, Peter Relson  said:

>Thus it would be misleading to think of this as a parmlib syntax
>checking  tool.

Well, I used it as one, for the members that it supported. As I wrote,
limited but still usefull.
 
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Re: Address Swap question

2015-09-30 Thread Don Williams

Yes
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 5:46 PM michelbutz  wrote:

> Hi
>
> Was just wondering does an address space
> Need to be swapped in for any code be running in
> It
>
> Thanks
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Address Swap question

2015-09-30 Thread michelbutz

Hi

Was just wondering does an address space 
Need to be swapped in for any code be running in 
It 

Thanks

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Self-service PC (was: "ageing mainframe")

2015-09-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin

On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 03:37:23 -0500, Shane Ginnane wrote:
>
>>CentreLink is a 26,000 MIP customer
>>http://www.techworld.com.au/article/303153/centrelink_ups_it_reform_keeps_model_204_legacy_/?pp=2.
>>Phew, that's going to be a big blow for big blue when they move off.
>
>Nope.
>At that time (2009) Centrelink might (might ?) have been. It is now an 
>amalgamation of Medibank and sundry others. Bigger and badder by large.
> 
At the link I see the phrase "self-service PCs in offices."  How does that work?
What OS?  My understanding is that Windows is a one-man dog.

My employer is eliminating our SunRay thin clients which had been the core of
our drop-in workstations.  Our Windows PC disks are encrypted only a single
authorized user can start one; this makes a stolen drive useless.  Much (not
all) work product data resides on individual PCs with network drive backup.

Are there PC solutions for drop-in workstations?  Many modern needs aren't
met by generic 3270 emulators.

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Re: Having the mainframe on YouTube

2015-09-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin

On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 10:55:33 -0400, Mark Jacobs - Listserv wrote:

>The last three releases of MacOS, including today's release of 10.11
>have been free.
> 
Which may be irrelevant because sooner or later they impel hardware
upgrades which aren't free.

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Re: Way to change a PROC to add a concatenation to existing DD?

2015-09-30 Thread Kirk Wolf

Thanks guys.   I had no idea that you could override a PROC concatenation
this way.

Kirk Wolf
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On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 4:54 AM, Bob Rutledge 
wrote:

> I'd use
>
>  //STDENV  DD DDNAME=STDENV
>  //DD DISP=SHR,DSN=INST.ADD.JAVA.STDENV
>
> in the proc.  Yes, it works.
>
> Bob
>
> IBM Mainframe Discussion List  wrote on
> 09/29/2015 04:50:54 PM:
>
> > From: Kirk Wolf 
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Date: 09/29/2015 04:51 PM
> > Subject: Way to change a PROC to add a concatenation to existing DD?
> > Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> >
> > Consider an existing PROC:
> >
> > //JVMPRC80 PROC JAVACLS=, < Fully Qfied Java class..RQD
> > // ARGS=, < Args to Java class
> > // LIBRARY=?.JZOS.LOADLIB?, < STEPLIB FOR JVMLDM module
> > // VERSION=?80?, < JVMLDM version: 80
> > // LOGLVL=??, < Debug LVL: +I(info) +T(trc)
> > // REGSIZE=?0M?, < EXECUTION REGION SIZE
> > // LEPARM=??
> > //JAVAJVM EXEC PGM=JVMLDM,REGION=,
> > // PARM=?/  ?
> > //STEPLIB DD DSN=,DISP=SHR
> > //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* < System stdout
> > //SYSOUT DD SYSOUT=* < System stderr
> > //STDOUT DD SYSOUT=* < Java System.out
> > //STDERR DD SYSOUT=* < Java System.err
> > //CEEDUMP DD SYSOUT=*
> > //ABNLIGNR DD DUMMY
> > //*
> > //*The following DDs can/should be present in the calling JCL
> > //*
> > //*STDIN DD < OPTIONAL - Java System.in
> > //*STDENV DD < REQUIRED - JVM Environment script
> > //*MAINARGS DD < OPTIONAL - Alt. method to supply args
> > // PEND
> >
> >
> > STDENV is a DD that is opened by the program (JVMLDM80).
> >
> > An installation would like to be able to automatically add control
> > statements to the end of this DD, without changing the JCL.
> >
> > So, instead we would want:
> >
> > //STDENV  DD DDNAME=MYENV
> > // DD DISP=SHR,DSN=INST.ADD.JAVA.STDENV
> >
> > but this would require that all JCL that used this PROC would need to
> > change their DD:STDENV to DD:MYENV.
> >
> > Here's my question:  is there a way to change the PROC so that the JCL
> that
> > uses it does not need to be changed?   Its even OK to front-end the
> > JVMLDM80 program with an installation-written program that does
> something
> > and then invokes JVMLDM80.Its not possible (or desirable) to change
> > JVMLDM80.
> >
> > Maybe a front-end program that uses SVC99 to reallocate STDENV as the
> > concatenation?   I'm not sure if this can be done without freeing the
> > existing STDENV DD.   I guess that the front-end program could
> create a
> > temporary dataset and then copy the existing STDENV DD to it and then
> free
> > STDENV and then reallocate the concatenation
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any better suggestions.
> >
> > Kirk Wolf
> > Dovetailed Technologies
> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?
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> > IuOYlqIJC7nrlQzxTUu-
> > mA=QUNbpGQ8IoUh0oGUmu8eaMhKeADVwEw1926HSV3ksM4=42Ti-
> > zKADLBk2WsfnoN0vSaVICHS65AbeRkVa9EhWY4=3oi4FGfFPVhvsPqjo-
> > uvCCno32cxW26gLLFzPNz40tU=
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Re: Having the mainframe on YouTube

2015-09-30 Thread John McKown

On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 12:24 AM, Timothy Sipples 
wrote:

> Tom Marchant wrote:
> >Unix is not free software.
>
> UNIX® is sometimes free, at least in the colloquial sense of the word. Mac
> OS X, for example, is UNIX® (and Open Group certified), and it's available
> free of charge from Apple to everyone who has a compatible Macintosh
> computer.
>

Um, it is truly that the current (at the time) MacOSX is bundled with
every Apple hardware purchase. But upgrades to a new version cost money.
Just like in the Wintel eco-system. 

>
>
> 
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> IT Architect Executive, Industry Solutions, IBM z Systems, AP/GCG/MEA
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Re: Self-service PC (was: "ageing mainframe")

2015-09-30 Thread David Crayford

On 30/09/2015 10:20 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:

On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 03:37:23 -0500, Shane Ginnane wrote:

Nope.
At that time (2009) Centrelink might (might ?) have been. It is now an
amalgamation of Medibank and sundry others. Bigger and badder by large.

At the link I see the phrase "self-service PCs in offices." How does that work?
What OS? My understanding is that Windows is a one-man dog.

Today, in 2015, I think it means technologies like mobile where you can
check-in at the airport using your phone. I book movie tickets on my
phone and rock up at the cinema and just scan straight from my phone
and pick up the tickets. No need for data input by a customer or
operator. They want to do the same with welfare and medicare. There's
already an app where you can scan a doctors bill and just ping it in
without having to fill out forms
or use a PC web based application which are also starting to look old
hat. Everybody has mobile devices in their pockets and CIOs don't see
mainframes as the platform of choice for the next generation systems
which will ultimately
reduce the cost of IT. Especially when IBM have got them over a barrel
and can charge what they like because there is no competition.

My employer is eliminating our SunRay thin clients which had been the core of
our drop-in workstations. Our Windows PC disks are encrypted only a single
authorized user can start one; this makes a stolen drive useless. Much (not
all) work product data resides on individual PCs with network drive backup.

Are there PC solutions for drop-in workstations? Many modern needs aren't
met by generic 3270 emulators.

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How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

2015-09-30 Thread Farley, Peter x23353

I need some advice from storage gurus.  I need to make a tiny SMS-managed VSAM 
KSDS that will NOT extend, neither to secondary space on the first volume nor 
to secondary volumes.  I need to test some error logic in an application 
program and I need a "file full" or "no more space" condition to test it.

I have these parameters in the define cluster command:

VOLUME(*) CYL (1 0)

But when I try to fill up that file with IDCAMS REPRO so that there is no more 
room for any records by copying from a similar file with many records into the 
tiny one, it automatically extends to new volumes, with messages like this:

SMS4000I TSOUSERZ, MKTSTFIL, SYS1, ATTEMPTING SPACVOLA FOR TSOUSER. 
TINY.DATA, XX, 1
SMS4400I VOLUME ADDED - OLD VOLUME XX, NEW VOLUME SMS . VOLUME COUNT IS 2   


I assume this is due to some hidden parameter in the STORCLAS that overrides my 
specification of only one candidate volume.

My question is, how do I override that hidden STORCLAS parameter to force a 
no-more-space error here?  I deliberately want the attempt to add one more 
record to force an error.

I do NOT have easy access to a storage admin on this system, so I need help 
from you.  ISMF is not available in my TSO menus, so I cannot check the 
STORCLAS for myself.

TIA for any help you can offer.

Peter

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Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

2015-09-30 Thread Lizette Koehler

That looks like DTS Software ACC/SRS product (SMS4400I) not SMS.  This product
can override SMS constructs.


I would check the rules or add a rule for this VSAM file.

Lizette


> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 9:25 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?
> 
> I need some advice from storage gurus.  I need to make a tiny SMS-managed VSAM
> KSDS that will NOT extend, neither to secondary space on the first volume nor
to
> secondary volumes.  I need to test some error logic in an application program
and I
> need a "file full" or "no more space" condition to test it.
> 
> I have these parameters in the define cluster command:
> 
> VOLUME(*) CYL (1 0)
> 
> But when I try to fill up that file with IDCAMS REPRO so that there is no more
room
> for any records by copying from a similar file with many records into the tiny
one, it
> automatically extends to new volumes, with messages like this:
> 
> SMS4000I TSOUSERZ, MKTSTFIL, SYS1, ATTEMPTING SPACVOLA FOR TSOUSER.
> TINY.DATA, XX, 1
> SMS4400I VOLUME ADDED - OLD VOLUME XX, NEW VOLUME SMS . VOLUME
> COUNT IS 2
> 
> I assume this is due to some hidden parameter in the STORCLAS that overrides
my
> specification of only one candidate volume.
> 
> My question is, how do I override that hidden STORCLAS parameter to force a
no-
> more-space error here?  I deliberately want the attempt to add one more record
to
> force an error.
> 
> I do NOT have easy access to a storage admin on this system, so I need help
from
> you.  ISMF is not available in my TSO menus, so I cannot check the STORCLAS
for
> myself.
> 
> TIA for any help you can offer.
> 
> Peter
> 

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Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

2015-09-30 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2015-09-30 o 18:24, Farley, Peter x23353 pisze:

I have these parameters in the define cluster command:

VOLUME(*) CYL (1 0)

SMS4000I TSOUSERZ, MKTSTFIL, SYS1, ATTEMPTING SPACVOLA FOR TSOUSER.
TINY.DATA, XX, 1
SMS4400I VOLUME ADDED - OLD VOLUME XX, NEW VOLUME SMS . VOLUME COUNT IS 2

I assume this is due to some hidden parameter in the STORCLAS that overrides my
specification of only one candidate volume.

My question is, how do I override that hidden STORCLAS parameter to force a
no-more-space error here? I deliberately want the attempt to add one more
record to force an error.

I do NOT have easy access to a storage admin on this system, so I need help
from you. ISMF is not available in my TSO menus, so I cannot check the
STORCLAS for myself.

TIA for any help you can offer.

Interesting!
Please, do the following
LISTCAT ENT(your.vsam.ksds) ALL and provide the output
check DATACLAS and it's definition from ISMF
check STORCLAS and it's definition from ISMF

I suspect DVC, but it's only wild guess.

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Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

2015-09-30 Thread John Clifford

Most shops have a STORCLAS(NONSMS) defined which allows sys-progs to bypass
all SMS allocations and use vol-ser for placement. If you have that defined
then create a KSDS with STORCLAS(NONSMS) VOLUME(xx) trk(1 0).

 John Clifford

On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 <
peter.far...@broadridge.com> wrote:

> I need some advice from storage gurus.  I need to make a tiny SMS-managed
> VSAM KSDS that will NOT extend, neither to secondary space on the first
> volume nor to secondary volumes.  I need to test some error logic in an
> application program and I need a "file full" or "no more space" condition
> to test it.
>
> I have these parameters in the define cluster command:
>
> VOLUME(*) CYL (1 0)
>
> But when I try to fill up that file with IDCAMS REPRO so that there is no
> more room for any records by copying from a similar file with many records
> into the tiny one, it automatically extends to new volumes, with messages
> like this:
>
> SMS4000I TSOUSERZ, MKTSTFIL, SYS1, ATTEMPTING SPACVOLA FOR TSOUSER.
> TINY.DATA, XX, 1
> SMS4400I VOLUME ADDED - OLD VOLUME XX, NEW VOLUME SMS . VOLUME COUNT
> IS 2
>
> I assume this is due to some hidden parameter in the STORCLAS that
> overrides my specification of only one candidate volume.
>
> My question is, how do I override that hidden STORCLAS parameter to force
> a no-more-space error here?  I deliberately want the attempt to add one
> more record to force an error.
>
> I do NOT have easy access to a storage admin on this system, so I need
> help from you.  ISMF is not available in my TSO menus, so I cannot check
> the STORCLAS for myself.
>
> TIA for any help you can offer.
>
> Peter
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Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

2015-09-30 Thread Ted MacNEIL

What problems are you attempting to solve by enforcing this?

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  Original Message  
From: Farley, Peter x23353
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 12:25
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
Subject: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

I need some advice from storage gurus. I need to make a tiny SMS-managed VSAM 
KSDS that will NOT extend, neither to secondary space on the first volume nor 
to secondary volumes. I need to test some error logic in an application program 
and I need a "file full" or "no more space" condition to test it.

I have these parameters in the define cluster command:

VOLUME(*) CYL (1 0)

But when I try to fill up that file with IDCAMS REPRO so that there is no more 
room for any records by copying from a similar file with many records into the 
tiny one, it automatically extends to new volumes, with messages like this:

SMS4000I TSOUSERZ, MKTSTFIL, SYS1, ATTEMPTING SPACVOLA FOR TSOUSER. 
TINY.DATA, XX, 1
SMS4400I VOLUME ADDED - OLD VOLUME XX, NEW VOLUME SMS . VOLUME COUNT IS 2 

I assume this is due to some hidden parameter in the STORCLAS that overrides my 
specification of only one candidate volume.

My question is, how do I override that hidden STORCLAS parameter to force a 
no-more-space error here? I deliberately want the attempt to add one more 
record to force an error.

I do NOT have easy access to a storage admin on this system, so I need help 
from you. ISMF is not available in my TSO menus, so I cannot check the STORCLAS 
for myself.

TIA for any help you can offer.

Peter

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Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

2015-09-30 Thread Farley, Peter x23353

As I said, I need to check some application program error logic designed to do 
application-specific recovery steps when there is a file-full condition.  I 
need a file that I can fill up and that stays filled and does not extend in 
order to test that application logic.

Peter

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Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 12:32 PM
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What problems are you attempting to solve by enforcing this?

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  Original Message  
From: Farley, Peter x23353
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 12:25
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
Subject: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

I need some advice from storage gurus. I need to make a tiny SMS-managed VSAM 
KSDS that will NOT extend, neither to secondary space on the first volume nor 
to secondary volumes. I need to test some error logic in an application program 
and I need a "file full" or "no more space" condition to test it.

I have these parameters in the define cluster command:

VOLUME(*) CYL (1 0)

But when I try to fill up that file with IDCAMS REPRO so that there is no more 
room for any records by copying from a similar file with many records into the 
tiny one, it automatically extends to new volumes, with messages like this:

SMS4000I TSOUSERZ, MKTSTFIL, SYS1, ATTEMPTING SPACVOLA FOR TSOUSER. 
TINY.DATA, XX, 1
SMS4400I VOLUME ADDED - OLD VOLUME XX, NEW VOLUME SMS . VOLUME COUNT IS 2 

I assume this is due to some hidden parameter in the STORCLAS that overrides my 
specification of only one candidate volume.

My question is, how do I override that hidden STORCLAS parameter to force a 
no-more-space error here? I deliberately want the attempt to add one more 
record to force an error.

I do NOT have easy access to a storage admin on this system, so I need help 
from you. ISMF is not available in my TSO menus, so I cannot check the STORCLAS 
for myself.

TIA for any help you can offer.

Peter
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Re: (External):Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

2015-09-30 Thread J O Skip Robinson

I'm guessing that most shops have some STORCLASS that bypasses at least some 
SMS rules. We have NULL. That bypasses volser assignment, but not all rules. In 
the absence of ISMF, you really need to get direction from your storage admin. 

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As I said, I need to check some application program error logic designed to do 
application-specific recovery steps when there is a file-full condition.  I 
need a file that I can fill up and that stays filled and does not extend in 
order to test that application logic.

Peter

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What problems are you attempting to solve by enforcing this?

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To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
Subject: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

I need some advice from storage gurus. I need to make a tiny SMS-managed VSAM 
KSDS that will NOT extend, neither to secondary space on the first volume nor 
to secondary volumes. I need to test some error logic in an application program 
and I need a "file full" or "no more space" condition to test it.

I have these parameters in the define cluster command:

VOLUME(*) CYL (1 0)

But when I try to fill up that file with IDCAMS REPRO so that there is no more 
room for any records by copying from a similar file with many records into the 
tiny one, it automatically extends to new volumes, with messages like this:

SMS4000I TSOUSERZ, MKTSTFIL, SYS1, ATTEMPTING SPACVOLA FOR TSOUSER. 
TINY.DATA, XX, 1 SMS4400I VOLUME ADDED - OLD VOLUME XX, NEW VOLUME SMS 
. VOLUME COUNT IS 2

I assume this is due to some hidden parameter in the STORCLAS that overrides my 
specification of only one candidate volume.

My question is, how do I override that hidden STORCLAS parameter to force a 
no-more-space error here? I deliberately want the attempt to add one more 
record to force an error.

I do NOT have easy access to a storage admin on this system, so I need help 
from you. ISMF is not available in my TSO menus, so I cannot check the STORCLAS 
for myself.

TIA for any help you can offer.

Peter

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Re: Having the mainframe on YouTube

2015-09-30 Thread John McKown

On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Mark Jacobs - Listserv <
mark.jac...@custserv.com> wrote:

> The last three releases of MacOS, including today's release of 10.11 have
> been free.
>

Strange. I guess Apple hates me. The last time I upgraded, which I cannot
any more due to "obsolete hardware", I had to pay. That was about 2 years
ago, IIRC.

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Re: Having the mainframe on YouTube

2015-09-30 Thread Farley, Peter x23353

But not W10 for non-commercial use, or so they keep telling us.

Personally, I'm going to follow my usual practice and wait for at least SP1 
before any possible "upgrade" to systems that I own.

Peter

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On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 12:24 AM, Timothy Sipples 
wrote:

> Tom Marchant wrote:
> >Unix is not free software.
>
> UNIX® is sometimes free, at least in the colloquial sense of the word. Mac
> OS X, for example, is UNIX® (and Open Group certified), and it's available
> free of charge from Apple to everyone who has a compatible Macintosh
> computer.
>

Um, it is truly that the current (at the time) MacOSX is bundled with
every Apple hardware purchase. But upgrades to a new version cost money.
Just like in the Wintel eco-system. 

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Re: Having the mainframe on YouTube

2015-09-30 Thread Blake, Daniel J [CTR]

I bought my MacBook Air Mid 2011.  It came with OS X Lion.  Since then I've 
upgraded to:
Mountain Lion
Mavericks
Yosemite
And soon to Ei Capitan, all for free.

I wish I could say the same about MS.  One of the bigger reasons why I bailed 
on MS.

Dan 


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The last three releases of MacOS, including today's release of 10.11 have been 
free.

Mark Jacobs

> John McKown 
> September 30, 2015 at 10:52 AM
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 12:24 AM, Timothy Sipples
> wrote:
>
>> Tom Marchant wrote:
>>> Unix is not free software.
>> UNIX(r) is sometimes free, at least in the colloquial sense of the 
>> word. Mac OS X, for example, is UNIX(r) (and Open Group certified), and 
>> it's available free of charge from Apple to everyone who has a 
>> compatible Macintosh computer.
>>
>
> Um, it is truly that the current (at the time) MacOSX is bundled with 
> every Apple hardware purchase. But upgrades to a new version cost money.
> Just like in the Wintel eco-system.
>
>
>
>> -
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>> Timothy Sipples
>> IT Architect Executive, Industry Solutions, IBM z Systems, AP/GCG/MEA
>> E-Mail: sipp...@sg.ibm.com
>
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> He's about as useful as a wax frying pan.
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> 10 to the 12th power microphones = 1 Megaphone
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> Maranatha!<><
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Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

2015-09-30 Thread Farley, Peter x23353

I have no way to check the storage or management classes, I have no access to 
ISMF from ISPF menus.  Unless there is a batch JCL I could run to display that 
information, if so please point me to the right manual.

What is DVC please?  I'm guessing Dynamic Volume Count?

Here is a sanitized LISTCAT, as requested.  I also forgot to say that this is a 
z/OS 2.1 system, in case that matters.

CLUSTER --- TSOUSER.VSAM.TINY   
  
 IN-CAT --- ICF.TEST.CATALOG
  
 HISTORY
  
   DATASET-OWNER-(NULL) CREATION2015.273
  
   RELEASE2 EXPIRATION--.000
  
 SMSDATA
  
   STORAGECLASS SCLARGE MANAGEMENTCLASS--MCLARGE
  
   DATACLASS -OTHER LBACKUP ---.000.
  
   CA-RECLAIM-(YES) 
  
   EATTR-(NULL) 
  
   BWO STATUS-- BWO TIMESTAMP---0 00:00:00.0
  
   BWO---(NULL) 
  
 RLSDATA
  
   LOG (NULL)   RECOVERY REQUIRED --(NO) FRLOG 
(NULL) 
   VSAM QUIESCED ---(NO)RLS IN USE -(NO) 
LOGREPLICATE-(NO)
   LOGSTREAMID-(NULL)   
  
   RECOVERY TIMESTAMP LOCAL-X'' 
  
   RECOVERY TIMESTAMP GMT---X'' 
  
 PROTECTION-PSWD-(NULL) RACF(NO)
  
 ASSOCIATIONS   
  
   DATA-TSOUSER.VSAM.TINY.DATA  
  
   INDEXTSOUSER.VSAM.TINY.INDEX 
  
   DATA --- TSOUSER.VSAM.TINY.DATA  
  
 IN-CAT --- ICF.TEST.CATALOG
  
 HISTORY
  
   DATASET-OWNER-(NULL) CREATION2015.273
  
   RELEASE2 EXPIRATION--.000
  
   ACCOUNT-INFO---(NULL)
  
 PROTECTION-PSWD-(NULL) RACF(NO)
  
 ASSOCIATIONS   
  
   CLUSTER--TSOUSER.VSAM.TINY   
  
 ATTRIBUTES 
  
   KEYLEN40 AVGLRECL1600 
BUFSPACE---37888 CISIZE-18432
   RKP0 MAXLRECL1600 
EXCPEXIT--(NULL) CI/CA-45
   SHROPTNS(2,3)  SPEED UNIQUE   NOERASE INDEXED   
NOWRITECHK UNORDERED  REUSE
   NONSPANNED   
  
 STATISTICS 
  
   REC-TOTAL495 SPLITS-CI--0 
EXCPS--2 
   REC-DELETED0 SPLITS-CA--0

Re: (External):Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

2015-09-30 Thread Farley, Peter x23353

I have reached out to that organization, but getting an answer to such a 
non-emergency question may take days or more.  Hence my attempt to find a way 
to do it a bit sooner from the expertise on this list.

Peter

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volume?

I'm guessing that most shops have some STORCLASS that bypasses at least some 
SMS rules. We have NULL. That bypasses volser assignment, but not all rules. In 
the absence of ISMF, you really need to get direction from your storage admin. 

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Re: (External):Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

2015-09-30 Thread J O Skip Robinson

So you're getting 

   STORAGECLASS SCLARGE MANAGEMENTCLASS--MCLARGE
   DATACLASS -OTHER 

These are all installation defined names. (I don't believe that SMS natively 
provides default names, but I'm not a storage admin.) There is *no way* to 
guess what name you could use to give you the result you're after. If you're 
not defined to SAF as having access to the relevant STGADMIN profile in the 
facility class, I don't think there's any way for you to poke around SMS for 
alternative class names. 

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I have no way to check the storage or management classes, I have no access to 
ISMF from ISPF menus.  Unless there is a batch JCL I could run to display that 
information, if so please point me to the right manual.

What is DVC please?  I'm guessing Dynamic Volume Count?

Here is a sanitized LISTCAT, as requested.  I also forgot to say that this is a 
z/OS 2.1 system, in case that matters.

CLUSTER --- TSOUSER.VSAM.TINY
 IN-CAT --- ICF.TEST.CATALOG
 HISTORY
   DATASET-OWNER-(NULL) CREATION2015.273
   RELEASE2 EXPIRATION--.000
 SMSDATA
   STORAGECLASS SCLARGE MANAGEMENTCLASS--MCLARGE
   DATACLASS -OTHER LBACKUP ---.000.
   CA-RECLAIM-(YES)
   EATTR-(NULL)
   BWO STATUS-- BWO TIMESTAMP---0 00:00:00.0
   BWO---(NULL)
 RLSDATA
   LOG (NULL)   RECOVERY REQUIRED --(NO) FRLOG 
(NULL)
   VSAM QUIESCED ---(NO)RLS IN USE -(NO) 
LOGREPLICATE-(NO)
   LOGSTREAMID-(NULL)
   RECOVERY TIMESTAMP LOCAL-X''
   RECOVERY TIMESTAMP GMT---X''
 PROTECTION-PSWD-(NULL) RACF(NO)
 ASSOCIATIONS
   DATA-TSOUSER.VSAM.TINY.DATA
   INDEXTSOUSER.VSAM.TINY.INDEX
   DATA --- TSOUSER.VSAM.TINY.DATA
 IN-CAT --- ICF.TEST.CATALOG
 HISTORY
   DATASET-OWNER-(NULL) CREATION2015.273
   RELEASE2 EXPIRATION--.000
   ACCOUNT-INFO---(NULL)
 PROTECTION-PSWD-(NULL) RACF(NO)
 ASSOCIATIONS
   CLUSTER--TSOUSER.VSAM.TINY
 ATTRIBUTES
   KEYLEN40 AVGLRECL1600 
BUFSPACE---37888 CISIZE-18432
   RKP0 MAXLRECL1600 
EXCPEXIT--(NULL) CI/CA-45
   SHROPTNS(2,3)  SPEED UNIQUE   NOERASE INDEXED   
NOWRITECHK UNORDERED  REUSE
   NONSPANNED
 STATISTICS
   REC-TOTAL495 SPLITS-CI--0 
EXCPS--2
   REC-DELETED0 SPLITS-CA--0 
EXTENTS1
   REC-INSERTED---0 FREESPACE-%CI--0 
SYSTEM-TIMESTAMP:
   REC-UPDATED0 FREESPACE-%CA--0  
X'CFA093A23D754BAD'
   REC-RETRIEVED--0 FREESPC0
 ALLOCATION
   SPACE-TYPE--CYLINDER HI-A-RBA--829440
   SPACE-PRI--1 HI-U-RBA--829440
   SPACE-SEC--0
 VOLUME
   VOLSERXX PHYREC-SIZE18432 
HI-A-RBA--829440 EXTENT-NUMBER--1
   DEVTYPE--X'3010200F' PHYRECS/TRK3 
HI-U-RBA--829440 EXTENT-TYPEX'40'
   VOLFLAGPRIME TRACKS/CA-15
   EXTENTS:
   LOW-CCHH-X'029D' LOW-RBA0 
TRACKS15
   HIGH-CCHHX'029D000E' HIGH-RBA--829439
   INDEX -- TSOUSER.VSAM.TINY.INDEX
 IN-CAT --- ICF.TEST.CATALOG
 HISTORY
   DATASET-OWNER-(NULL) CREATION2015.273
   RELEASE2 EXPIRATION--.000
 PROTECTION-PSWD-(NULL) RACF(NO)
 ASSOCIATIONS
   CLUSTER--TSOUSER.VSAM.TINY
 ATTRIBUTES
   KEYLEN40 AVGLRECL---0 
BUFSPACE---0 CISIZE--1024
   RKP0 MAXLRECL1017 
EXCPEXIT--(NULL) CI/CA-33

Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

2015-09-30 Thread Ted MacNEIL

Sorry missed that!

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From: Farley, Peter x23353
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As I said, I need to check some application program error logic designed to do 
application-specific recovery steps when there is a file-full condition. I need 
a file that I can fill up and that stays filled and does not extend in order to 
test that application logic.

Peter

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What problems are you attempting to solve by enforcing this?

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Subject: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

I need some advice from storage gurus. I need to make a tiny SMS-managed VSAM 
KSDS that will NOT extend, neither to secondary space on the first volume nor 
to secondary volumes. I need to test some error logic in an application program 
and I need a "file full" or "no more space" condition to test it.

I have these parameters in the define cluster command:

VOLUME(*) CYL (1 0)

But when I try to fill up that file with IDCAMS REPRO so that there is no more 
room for any records by copying from a similar file with many records into the 
tiny one, it automatically extends to new volumes, with messages like this:

SMS4000I TSOUSERZ, MKTSTFIL, SYS1, ATTEMPTING SPACVOLA FOR TSOUSER. 
TINY.DATA, XX, 1
SMS4400I VOLUME ADDED - OLD VOLUME XX, NEW VOLUME SMS . VOLUME COUNT IS 2 

I assume this is due to some hidden parameter in the STORCLAS that overrides my 
specification of only one candidate volume.

My question is, how do I override that hidden STORCLAS parameter to force a 
no-more-space error here? I deliberately want the attempt to add one more 
record to force an error.

I do NOT have easy access to a storage admin on this system, so I need help 
from you. ISMF is not available in my TSO menus, so I cannot check the STORCLAS 
for myself.

TIA for any help you can offer.

Peter
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Re: Self-service PC (was: "ageing mainframe")

2015-09-30 Thread Charles Mills

Agreed. I did an HR systems evaluation a few years back (why is a coder 
evaluating HR systems? Don't ask.) and all were big on "self-service," by which 
they meant if an employee, for example, wanted to know how many vacation days 
s/he had in the bank, s/he did not have to call HR, s/he just signed onto the 
HR system with a Web browser (and with "role-based authority" much lower than 
an HR person) and looked.

Today it would include logging in from a mobile device.

Charles

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On 30/09/2015 10:20 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 03:37:23 -0500, Shane Ginnane wrote:
>>> CentreLink is a 26,000 MIP customer
>>> http://www.techworld.com.au/article/303153/centrelink_ups_it_reform_keeps_model_204_legacy_/?pp=2.
>>> Phew, that's going to be a big blow for big blue when they move off.
>> Nope.
>> At that time (2009) Centrelink might (might ?) have been. It is now an 
>> amalgamation of Medibank and sundry others. Bigger and badder by large.
>>
> At the link I see the phrase "self-service PCs in offices."  How does that 
> work?
> What OS?  My understanding is that Windows is a one-man dog.

Today, in 2015, I think it means technologies like mobile where you can 
check-in at the airport using your phone. I book movie tickets on my phone and 
rock up at the cinema and just scan straight from my phone and pick up the 
tickets. No need for data input by a customer or operator. They want to do the 
same with welfare and medicare. There's already an app where you can scan a 
doctors bill and just ping it in without having to fill out forms or use a PC 
web based application which are also starting to look old hat. Everybody has 
mobile devices in their pockets and CIOs don't see mainframes as the platform 
of choice for the next generation systems which will ultimately reduce the cost 
of IT. Especially when IBM have got them over a barrel and can charge what they 
like because there is no competition.

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Re: (External):Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one volume?

2015-09-30 Thread J O Skip Robinson

Do you have any way to 'flood' the VSAM file with data? If so, try allocating 
the VSAM file as small as possible, although SMS may give you more than you 
want. In any case it won't be infinite. Try writing so much data that the file 
eventually fills up. Maybe you could prime the file to almost full, then let 
the application program hit the limit with it's own output. 

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Subject: Re: (External):Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one 
volume?

I have reached out to that organization, but getting an answer to such a 
non-emergency question may take days or more.  Hence my attempt to find a way 
to do it a bit sooner from the expertise on this list.

Peter

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Subject: Re: (External):Re: How to limit tiny SMS-managed VSAM KSDS to one 
volume?

I'm guessing that most shops have some STORCLASS that bypasses at least some 
SMS rules. We have NULL. That bypasses volser assignment, but not all rules. In 
the absence of ISMF, you really need to get direction from your storage admin. 

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