Re: SDSF DA display in z/OS 2.3

[Rob Scott]

SDSF 2.3 introduced the "point-and-shoot" ability for jobnames on panels such 
as "DA" and "H" to act as if the user typed "?" in the NP column.

Historically when SDSF introduces new behaviour there is either a "SET" option 
for the user or a custom property for the SDSF group that can be applied via 
ISFPRMxx.

This behaviour was deemed to be very much an individual user choice, so "SET 
FFPS" command was chosen as the mechanism to allow customization.

Note that this setting in saved in your ISPF profile dataset so you do not have 
to select this every time you enter the product.

Note that "SET ?" is not a valid command, all the product is attempting to do 
in response is show the first help panel for the SET command.
The help for FFPS is on the second help panel. SDSF is limited to 24 lines for 
compatibility reasons.


Rob Scott
Rocket Software

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Thanks for the pointers. I would never have guessed the cause. However, there 
may still be reason for an SR: 'FFSP' does not show up everywhere in Help 
panels. For example,

SET ?
PARM INVALID

 HELP: SET Commands to Set Options
  Select a SET command by number, or press Enter to view them in sequence.
   1 - ACTION   Action characters
   2 - BROWSE   Default browse action character
   3 - CKLIMNumber of checks to displayed on the history panel
   4 - CMODECommunications mode for sysplex data
   5 - CONFIRM  Confirmation
   6 - CONMOD   Console name modification
   7 - CONSOLE  Extended console
   8 - CSORTCursor-based sort
   9 - CURSOR   Cursor placement
  10 - DATE Date format
  11 - DELAYTimeout value
  12 - DISPLAY  Display of values
  13 - DUPDSDislay [sic] duplicate SYSOUT data sets

FFSP is not listed here, although it does show up in other contexts. Also it's 
a bit unusual for IBM to change default behavior without giving some mechanism 
to set an installation default.

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Interesting!  Though I'm not sure I'm getting that exact behavior.  I can place 
my cursor on the JOBNAME and then press enter, and it will behave as if I had 
placed ? in the NP field and pressed enter.  But I can't tab to the job name.  
It bypasses it and goes to the Ptry column.

Does anyone know how to activate "point and click" for Micro Focus Reflection 
Workspace TN3270 emulator?  If I point to the field and double click it simply 
highlights (reverse video) the job name value.

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It is because JOBNAME is now a point and shoot field.  Tab to it, and you get 
the equivalent of ? next to it.  Go up to Options, 3- Screen, 9 Change fixed 
field point-and-shoot to OFF, and you get the old behavior.

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For as long as I can remember, the SDSF DA display marks 'swapped in' tasks 
with highlighting on all columns, including task name. In z/OS 2.3, we notice 
that columns are highlighted *except for* task name. Cannot find any doc on 
this change from 2.1. Worth an SR?

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Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program design)

[Ron hawkins]

You're quoting the English version. I am quoting the translation from the 
original German.

Liberally from Google:
Du hast mich gefragt, und ich hab nichts gesagt!
You asked me and I did not say anything! 

And from human:
You have asked me and I have said nothing.


There are several differences between the English and German versions, but your 
version below seems to be a mix of the translation, and the English version. 
For example, the English version uses "hate" instead of "have" (hasst instead 
of hast).

I don't speak German, but I love the song and remembered some of the 
translation.

Ron


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design)

Weird, here is the English translation I have:
You
You have
You have me
You have me to say
You have me to say
And I did not obey

Will you until death does sever
Be upright to her forever

Never

Will you 'til death be her rider
Her lover too, to stay inside her

Never

Thanks,

Tom Savor


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You have asked me and I have said nothing.

>From Du Hast - Rammstein.

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On 9/06/2018 7:03 AM, Ron hawkins wrote:
> You have asked me and I have said nothing.

Are they lyrics from a Barnsey song?

>
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Savor, Thomas (Alpharetta)
> Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 9:50 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform 
> program design)
>
> Rammstein
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom Savor
>
>
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> design)
>
> On 8/06/2018 3:15 AM, Peter Hunkeler wrote:
>> It's amost Friday, right. At least here in Zurich
>>> Rap music is performed by those that can not sing so others can not think.
>> rap music? Isn't this a contradiction in terms ;-)
>
> What do you listen to, Beethoven? Ramstein? :)
>
>
>> Apologies to all the rappers out there, and the ones who like that 
>> contradiction, ahem.. music. No offense intended.
>>
>>
>> --
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AW: Re: SDSF DA display in z/OS 2.3

[Peter Hunkeler]

>Interesting!  Though I'm not sure I'm getting that exact behavior.  I can 
>place my cursor on the JOBNAME and then press enter, and it will behave as if 
>I had placed ? in the NP field and pressed enter.  But I can't tab to the job 
>name.  It bypasses it and goes to the Ptry column.




Have a look at your ISPF (not SDSF) settings (Option 0 from the POM). There is 
s setting called "Tab to point-and-shoot fields". Is that enabled (has it a 
"/") in front of it? I'm not on z/OS V2.3 yet, so I cannot test.


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Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program design)

[David Crayford]

IMHO, Rammstein should only be listened to in German! They are one of 
the only German bands that have had mainstream commercial success in 
English speaking countries
singing in their native tongue. 99 luftballons doesn't have the same 
impact! :)



On 11/06/2018 6:15 PM, Ron hawkins wrote:

You're quoting the English version. I am quoting the translation from the 
original German.

Liberally from Google:
Du hast mich gefragt, und ich hab nichts gesagt!
You asked me and I did not say anything!

And from human:
You have asked me and I have said nothing.


There are several differences between the English and German versions, but your version below seems 
to be a mix of the translation, and the English version. For example, the English version uses 
"hate" instead of "have" (hasst instead of hast).

I don't speak German, but I love the song and remembered some of the 
translation.

Ron


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Savor, Thomas (Alpharetta)
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 10:57 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program 
design)

Weird, here is the English translation I have:
You
You have
You have me
You have me to say
You have me to say
And I did not obey

Will you until death does sever
Be upright to her forever

Never

Will you 'til death be her rider
Her lover too, to stay inside her

Never

Thanks,

Tom Savor


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Of Ron hawkins
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2018 3:16 AM
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You have asked me and I have said nothing.

 From Du Hast - Rammstein.

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David Crayford
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design)

On 9/06/2018 7:03 AM, Ron hawkins wrote:

You have asked me and I have said nothing.

Are they lyrics from a Barnsey song?


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Rammstein

Thanks,

Tom Savor


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On 8/06/2018 3:15 AM, Peter Hunkeler wrote:

It's amost Friday, right. At least here in Zurich

Rap music is performed by those that can not sing so others can not think.

rap music? Isn't this a contradiction in terms ;-)

What do you listen to, Beethoven? Ramstein? :)



Apologies to all the rappers out there, and the ones who like that 
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program design)

[Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek)]

Nothing beats rap in the original Klingon however... :-)

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IMHO, Rammstein should only be listened to in German! They are one of 
the only German bands that have had mainstream commercial success in 
English speaking countries
singing in their native tongue. 99 luftballons doesn't have the same 
impact! :)


On 11/06/2018 6:15 PM, Ron hawkins wrote:
> You're quoting the English version. I am quoting the translation from the 
> original German.
>
> Liberally from Google:
>   Du hast mich gefragt, und ich hab nichts gesagt!
>   You asked me and I did not say anything!
>
> And from human:
>   You have asked me and I have said nothing.
>
>
> There are several differences between the English and German versions, but 
> your version below seems to be a mix of the translation, and the English 
> version. For example, the English version uses "hate" instead of "have" 
> (hasst instead of hast).
>
> I don't speak German, but I love the song and remembered some of the 
> translation.
>
> Ron
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
> Savor, Thomas (Alpharetta)
> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 10:57 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform 
> program design)
>
> Weird, here is the English translation I have:
> You
> You have
> You have me
> You have me to say
> You have me to say
> And I did not obey
>
> Will you until death does sever
> Be upright to her forever
>
> Never
>
> Will you 'til death be her rider
> Her lover too, to stay inside her
>
> Never
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom Savor
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
> Behalf Of Ron hawkins
> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2018 3:16 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program design)
>
> You have asked me and I have said nothing.
>
>  From Du Hast - Rammstein.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
> David Crayford
> Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 11:13 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform 
> program design)
>
> On 9/06/2018 7:03 AM, Ron hawkins wrote:
>> You have asked me and I have said nothing.
> Are they lyrics from a Barnsey song?
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On
>> Behalf Of Savor, Thomas (Alpharetta)
>> Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 9:50 PM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform
>> program design)
>>
>> Rammstein
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Tom Savor
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
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>> On Behalf Of David Crayford
>> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 12:12 AM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>> Subject: Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program
>> design)
>>
>> On 8/06/2018 3:15 AM, Peter Hunkeler wrote:
>>> It's amost Friday, right. At least here in Zurich
 Rap music is performed by those that can not sing so others can not think.
>>> rap music? Isn't this a contradiction in terms ;-)
>> What do you listen to, Beethoven? Ramstein? :)
>>
>>
>>> Apologies to all the rappers out there, and the ones who like that 
>>> contradiction, ahem.. music. No offense intended.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Peter Hunkeler
>>>
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Re: CFSIZER no longer available?

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I am told the redirects have been fixed to make CFSIZER available again.

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Re: CFSIZER no longer available?

[Allan Staller]

Don’t the PFCSKs test anything?

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Re: SORTLIB DD

[R.S.]

You can try to ICEGENER whole input to DD DUMMY. It will take some time, 
but you will get exact number of records and bytes.

Then you'll be able to help DFSORT by using FILSZ with correct size.

Regarding SORTLIB DD - do you need it in *any* sort job, or just this one?
How the DFSORT was installed? Was it part of ServerPac?
BTW: I just read in documentation that SORTLIB is required when 
sortworks on tape are used.


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W dniu 2018-06-09 o 19:51, Jesse 1 Robinson pisze:

In one failing job, we get

ICE046A E SORT CAPACITY EXCEEDED - RECORD COUNT 41,235,203
ICE046A E SORT CAPACITY EXCEEDED - RECORD COUNT 41,235,203
ICE253I 0 RECORDS SORTED - PROCESSED: 41,235,203, EXPECTED: 310,580,760  <== 
note very high expectation

As to how much DASD space is available, I have no idea. Not a storage guy.
Virtual memory is whatever it is at z/OS 2.1.
User tried tape sort but had the job cancelled after 24 hours. Unfortunately 
canceler apparently purged job as well, so nothing to look at.
As for why specify SORTLIB DD: DFSORT requires it. Job will not run without it.

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Let me ask again:
What is the size of input data?
How much space do you have for temp datasets?
How much memory can the job use?


BTW: While sortworks on tape can be justified in case of lack of DASD space, I 
still see no reason to specify SORTLIB DD.

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W dniu 2018-06-07 o 20:14, Jesse 1 Robinson pisze:

Let me reiterate. The problem job tries to allocate more DASD work space than 
*exists* on the system. SORTIN is on tape--multiple files. We have the 
capability of putting more volumes online temporarily, but this is a major PITA 
and requires intervention from the Storage boys. I'm hoping that tape SORTWK 
will get the user over the occasional hump for this ad hoc non-production job. 
It does not have to perform well. It just has to work.

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Get rid of SORTLIB DD
Get rid of SORTWKnn DD
Use dynamic sortwork datasets, optionally set the number of datasets via OPTION 
DYNALLOC Don't use tapes for sortwork

BTW:
What is a size of input data?
How much space do you have for temp datasets?
How much memory can the job use?




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AW: Re: CFSIZER no longer available?

[Peter Hunkeler]

Not attacking you personally, not at all, but do you have any information about 
all the other broken links, such as the WLM tools page, etc?


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Re: PDSEGEN - 2 years old

[Jerry Callen]

So, I'm curious: What are people actually USING member generations for? 

For source code, it seems like a decent source control system is a better bet. 
Are member generations primarily a form of "oops recovery?"

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Re: PDSEGEN - 2 years old

[Steve Smith]

That's it for me.  I like JCL and working source libraries to have 2-5
generations just so I can go back if the need arises (or I just
accidentally save when I didn't really want to).

As a side note, the other "improvements" with PDSE V2 seem to cause
problems when trying to scroll max down through large members.  This is
almost certainly a bug, and it may have been fixed already, or at least
will be.  But unless I need generations, I usually stick with V1.

sas

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Jerry Callen  wrote:

> So, I'm curious: What are people actually USING member generations for?
>
> For source code, it seems like a decent source control system is a better
> bet. Are member generations primarily a form of "oops recovery?"
>
> -- Jerry
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Re: CFSIZER no longer available?

[Allan Staller]

Nope. But if any z/OS type had performed work of this quality, they would be 
promoted to the street.

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: PDSEGEN - 2 years old

[Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek)]

See these recent APAR closures to resolve the PDSE scroll max issue and one 
other:

APAR or PTF Updated Status  CC  Component   Abstract and comments
OA55431 6/7/18  CLOSED  PER ISPF Z/OS PDF&S AN ABEND 002-A8 OCCURS DOING A 
SCROLL MAX DOWN ON A PDSE MEMBER
OA54890 6/6/18  CLOSED  PER EXTENDED DATA S IEBPDSE DETECTED PDSE DIRECTORY 
CORRUPTION FOLLOWING AN ISPF IEBPDSE

I prefer to use member generations rather than a full blown source control 
system for my personal JCL, REXX, ISPF Panel, and a few other libraries. I keep 
up to 20 generations while working on updates and will then prune down to 1-3 
after things are looking solid and then prune down to 0 generations when I'm 
truly happy with the updates. Prune is a feature of PDSEGEN that deletes 
generations while leaving the requested number of generations alive.

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That's it for me.  I like JCL and working source libraries to have 2-5
generations just so I can go back if the need arises (or I just
accidentally save when I didn't really want to).

As a side note, the other "improvements" with PDSE V2 seem to cause
problems when trying to scroll max down through large members.  This is
almost certainly a bug, and it may have been fixed already, or at least
will be.  But unless I need generations, I usually stick with V1.

sas

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Jerry Callen  wrote:

> So, I'm curious: What are people actually USING member generations for?
>
> For source code, it seems like a decent source control system is a better
> bet. Are member generations primarily a form of "oops recovery?"
>
> -- Jerry
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Re: MVS send command in REXX

[Nims,Alva John (Al)]

Does the contents of "mtxt" happen to have a parentheses ["(" or ")"]?  Several 
years ago, I worked at a shop that we maintained the broadcast messages, this 
was a multiple send situation, but might be applicable, but if one line had a 
"(" in it and with the closing ")" on the next line, it would totally mess up 
and we had to rework the message so that both "(" and ")" were on the same send 
command to work.

Don't know if that is your problem, but thought I would put that out there.

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Subject: Re: MVS send command in REXX

Hello,

Thanks for reply.

below command doesn't work. After changing

mvs "send 'AG54LST JOB "mtxt"' user(AG54) now"

to

mvs "send 'AG54LST JOB "mtxt"',user(AG54),now"

I stopped getting any notification as i was getting on any system.

Is there any other syntax for this command .


here mtxt is notthing but a tapped message from syslog , we tried to capture 
using netview and we should like to display it to particular tso user when even 
triger.

but instead , it was displaying it to all users. I am unable to find correct 
way to isolate this issue.

On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 1:52 PM, Elardus Engelbrecht < 
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za> wrote:

> saurabh khandelwal wrote:
>
> >000120 parse arg mtxt . mtxt
>
> How long is that mtxt? If it is too long, the rest of the message 
> command will be trimmed off.
>
>
> >000500 mvs "send 'AG54LST JOB "mtxt"' user(AG54) now"
>
> Change above to this (replacing two spaces with two commas):
>
>  mvs "send 'AG54LST JOB "mtxt"',user(AG54),now"
>
> Look up SEND for specific message  receivers in
>
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ibm.com_suppo
> rt_knowledgecenter_SSLTBW-5F2.2.0_&d=DwIBaQ&c=pZJPUDQ3SB9JplYbifm4nt2l
> EVG5pWx2KikqINpWlZM&r=0Ef64GJS77DVfhr5GGKZeQ&m=ChEpTjtAfIGIeIguFdpbIOZ
> 9it2jm0UHEzW4CP3CBJc&s=MRuaj8EZbz1UR_mOmI804GVPybeqMi6oXDIJ1JYv1z4&e=
> com.ibm.zos.v2r2.ieag100/s1mess1.htm
>
>
> Disclaimer - I am not a NETVIEW expert anymore...
>
> So, you, not me, need to double check all those ' and " are properly 
> balanced.
>
> Groete / Greetings
> Elardus Engelbrecht
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AW: ISPF programming with assembler

[Immo]

Hi,

thank you for all the hints. I finally found out how to get hold of the
unique row-id by myself. What I missed was to correctly VDEFINE the variable
used to transfer this unique row-id.

Thanks again and kind regards,

Michael

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Hi,

 

I'd like to retrieve the unique row-id for an entry in an ISPF table from an
assembler program (not the crp!). Unfortunately I didn't find out how to get
hold of the value on my own and so far I haven't found a usable example.

 

Any hint or pointer to a working example in assembler language would be
great!

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Michael

 


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PROBLEM WITH MODEL PARM

[esmie moo]

Gentle Readers,
I am encountering an error using the IDCAMS/MODEL parm.  I googled the error 
message but the explanation is not clear.

 



IDCAMS  SYSTEM SERVICES  TIME: 09:36:39 
  

   DEFINE CLUSTER -

 (NAME(PROD.DSNDBD.DSNMDCDB.DSNPROGB.I0001.A001)-   

  VOL(PROD13) -

 MODEL('PROD.DSNDBD.DSNMDCDB.DSNPROGL.I0001.A001')   -  
 

  )

IDC3501I  MODEL ENTYPE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THEOBJECT BEING DEFINED  

IDC3003IFUNCTION TERMINATED. CONDITION CODE IS 12  

    
IDC0002IIDCAMS PROCESSING COMPLETE. MAXIMUM CONDITION CODE WAS 12              
Can you spot my mistake?
Thanks.








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Re: SORTLIB DD

[Alan Young]

If the dataset is RECFM=F and the tape(s) statistics can be viewed in a 
tape management product, the record count can be approximated with the 
sum of the block counts of the tape(s) * the block size and then divided 
by the LRECL. It is an approximation as it is not known many records are 
actually in the last block. So it will be a slight over estimation, but 
reasonable one.


If the dataset is RECFM=V, the above formula may be workable. It depends 
on what the average LRECL is on the file. Knowing the data structure in 
the file helps. Depending on the data, the record count computed times 
four worked for the situations that we had. YMMV.


R.S. wrote:
You can try to ICEGENER whole input to DD DUMMY. It will take some 
time, but you will get exact number of records and bytes.

Then you'll be able to help DFSORT by using FILSZ with correct size.

Regarding SORTLIB DD - do you need it in *any* sort job, or just this 
one?

How the DFSORT was installed? Was it part of ServerPac?
BTW: I just read in documentation that SORTLIB is required when 
sortworks on tape are used.


Regards


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Re: PROBLEM WITH MODEL PARM

[Jesse 1 Robinson]

From memory. The 'hard' default for DEF CLUSTER is INDEXED. If your model is 
non-indexed, that will not override the default but instead give you a 
consistency error. You need to specify the appropriate/matching value for this 
option. 

.
.
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Subject: (External):PROBLEM WITH MODEL PARM

Gentle Readers,
I am encountering an error using the IDCAMS/MODEL parm.  I googled the error 
message but the explanation is not clear.

 



IDCAMS  SYSTEM SERVICES  TIME: 09:36:39 
  

   DEFINE CLUSTER -

 (NAME(PROD.DSNDBD.DSNMDCDB.DSNPROGB.I0001.A001)-   

  VOL(PROD13) -

 MODEL('PROD.DSNDBD.DSNMDCDB.DSNPROGL.I0001.A001')   -  
 

  )

IDC3501I  MODEL ENTYPE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THEOBJECT BEING DEFINED  

IDC3003IFUNCTION TERMINATED. CONDITION CODE IS 12  

    
IDC0002IIDCAMS PROCESSING COMPLETE. MAXIMUM CONDITION CODE WAS 12 Can you spot 
my mistake?
Thanks.

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Re: PROBLEM WITH MODEL PARM

[Carmen Vitullo]

Absolutely , a very old example I've used 





DEF CLUSTER(NAME(PCA11.TEMP.JEHF) VOL(WORKB8) - 
FILE(SETUP) - 
CYLINDERS(75 2) MODEL(PCA11.CA11.R20.JEHF)) - 
DATA(NAME(PCA11.TEMP.JEHF.DATA)) - 
INDEX(NAME(PCA11.TEMP.JEHF.INDEX)) 






Carmen Vitullo 

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From: "Jesse 1 Robinson"  
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Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 10:46:20 AM 
Subject: Re: PROBLEM WITH MODEL PARM 

>From memory. The 'hard' default for DEF CLUSTER is INDEXED. If your model is 
>non-indexed, that will not override the default but instead give you a 
>consistency error. You need to specify the appropriate/matching value for this 
>option. 

. 
. 
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Subject: (External):PROBLEM WITH MODEL PARM 

Gentle Readers, 
I am encountering an error using the IDCAMS/MODEL parm. I googled the error 
message but the explanation is not clear. 





IDCAMS SYSTEM SERVICES TIME: 09:36:39 

DEFINE CLUSTER - 

(NAME(PROD.DSNDBD.DSNMDCDB.DSNPROGB.I0001.A001)- 

VOL(PROD13) - 

MODEL('PROD.DSNDBD.DSNMDCDB.DSNPROGL.I0001.A001') - 

) 

IDC3501I MODEL ENTYPE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THEOBJECT BEING DEFINED 

IDC3003IFUNCTION TERMINATED. CONDITION CODE IS 12 


IDC0002IIDCAMS PROCESSING COMPLETE. MAXIMUM CONDITION CODE WAS 12 Can you spot 
my mistake? 
Thanks. 

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Re: PROBLEM WITH MODEL PARM

[Bill Bishop (TMNA)]

It could be because you are modeling after the data component and not the 
cluster base.

Try modeling it after DSNDBC, not DSNDBD.  DSNDBC is the cluster component name 
and DSNDBD is the data component name.

Thanks

Bill Bishop
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Of esmie moo
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Subject: PROBLEM WITH MODEL PARM

Gentle Readers,
I am encountering an error using the IDCAMS/MODEL parm.  I googled the error 
message but the explanation is not clear.

 



IDCAMS  SYSTEM SERVICES  TIME: 09:36:39 
  

   DEFINE CLUSTER -

 (NAME(PROD.DSNDBD.DSNMDCDB.DSNPROGB.I0001.A001)-   

  VOL(PROD13) -

 MODEL('PROD.DSNDBD.DSNMDCDB.DSNPROGL.I0001.A001')   -  
 

  )

IDC3501I  MODEL ENTYPE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THEOBJECT BEING DEFINED  

IDC3003IFUNCTION TERMINATED. CONDITION CODE IS 12  

    
IDC0002IIDCAMS PROCESSING COMPLETE. MAXIMUM CONDITION CODE WAS 12 Can you spot 
my mistake?
Thanks.








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Re: SORTLIB DD

[Jesse 1 Robinson]

An update. I was wrong about the nature of this job. I assumed that it was ad 
hoc; wrong, it's actually a scheduled production job that usually works 
depending on SORTIN size. SORTIN size depends on the number of tape GDG members 
that have accumulated, an external happenstance that the sort product cannot 
guess. Neither can TWS.

Several folks have offered suggestions on how to make the job work. Variations 
are difficult to handle with a job scheduler. But the bottom line is that work 
space is limited to--whatever it is. Over the weekend the Storage boys added 
some temporary DASD volumes just to get this job over the hump. That's not an 
elegant way to run a grownup mainframe shop.

To answer Radislow, DFSORT was installed with ServerPac. SORTLIB is *required* 
for tape-based sorts even though we include SYS1.SORTLIB in the link list. 

.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Alan Young
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 8:20 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: (External):Re: SORTLIB DD

If the dataset is RECFM=F and the tape(s) statistics can be viewed in a tape 
management product, the record count can be approximated with the sum of the 
block counts of the tape(s) * the block size and then divided by the LRECL. It 
is an approximation as it is not known many records are actually in the last 
block. So it will be a slight over estimation, but reasonable one.

If the dataset is RECFM=V, the above formula may be workable. It depends on 
what the average LRECL is on the file. Knowing the data structure in the file 
helps. Depending on the data, the record count computed times four worked for 
the situations that we had. YMMV.

R.S. wrote:
> You can try to ICEGENER whole input to DD DUMMY. It will take some 
> time, but you will get exact number of records and bytes.
> Then you'll be able to help DFSORT by using FILSZ with correct size.
>
> Regarding SORTLIB DD - do you need it in *any* sort job, or just this 
> one?
> How the DFSORT was installed? Was it part of ServerPac?
> BTW: I just read in documentation that SORTLIB is required when 
> sortworks on tape are used.
>
> Regards

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HCM

[Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh]

Hello World,

A few years ago, I was able to download the HCM free version, import an IOCDS 
and generally view the config.
Is this still available from somewhere?

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Re: SDSF DA display in z/OS 2.3

[Jesse 1 Robinson]

The FFPS setting in SDSF does not affect the ISPF Options setting. 

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Subject: (External):AW: Re: SDSF DA display in z/OS 2.3

 
>Interesting!  Though I'm not sure I'm getting that exact behavior.  I can 
>place my cursor on the JOBNAME and then press enter, and it will behave as if 
>I had placed ? in the NP field and pressed enter.  But I can't tab to the job 
>name.  It bypasses it and goes to the Ptry column. 




Have a look at your ISPF (not SDSF) settings (Option 0 from the POM). There is 
s setting called "Tab to point-and-shoot fields". Is that enabled (has it a 
"/") in front of it? I'm not on z/OS V2.3 yet, so I cannot test.


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Re: SDSF DA display in z/OS 2.3

[Jesse 1 Robinson]

In the scenario I described, there is no second Help screen. Despite the note 
"Enter = Forward",  actually drills down on the Set options shown on the 
first screen beginning with "HELP: SET ACTION Command". 

I just want this unexpected change to be made as transparent as possible for 
the unwitting user. I looked early on at the Help thread

1 - What's new  

No mention of FFSP.

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Of Rob Scott
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 3:15 AM
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Subject: (External):Re: SDSF DA display in z/OS 2.3

SDSF 2.3 introduced the "point-and-shoot" ability for jobnames on panels such 
as "DA" and "H" to act as if the user typed "?" in the NP column.

Historically when SDSF introduces new behaviour there is either a "SET" option 
for the user or a custom property for the SDSF group that can be applied via 
ISFPRMxx.

This behaviour was deemed to be very much an individual user choice, so "SET 
FFPS" command was chosen as the mechanism to allow customization.

Note that this setting in saved in your ISPF profile dataset so you do not have 
to select this every time you enter the product.

Note that "SET ?" is not a valid command, all the product is attempting to do 
in response is show the first help panel for the SET command.
The help for FFPS is on the second help panel. SDSF is limited to 24 lines for 
compatibility reasons.


Rob Scott
Rocket Software

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Subject: Re: SDSF DA display in z/OS 2.3

Thanks for the pointers. I would never have guessed the cause. However, there 
may still be reason for an SR: 'FFSP' does not show up everywhere in Help 
panels. For example,

SET ?
PARM INVALID

 HELP: SET Commands to Set Options
  Select a SET command by number, or press Enter to view them in sequence.
   1 - ACTION   Action characters
   2 - BROWSE   Default browse action character
   3 - CKLIMNumber of checks to displayed on the history panel
   4 - CMODECommunications mode for sysplex data
   5 - CONFIRM  Confirmation
   6 - CONMOD   Console name modification
   7 - CONSOLE  Extended console
   8 - CSORTCursor-based sort
   9 - CURSOR   Cursor placement
  10 - DATE Date format
  11 - DELAYTimeout value
  12 - DISPLAY  Display of values
  13 - DUPDSDislay [sic] duplicate SYSOUT data sets

FFSP is not listed here, although it does show up in other contexts. Also it's 
a bit unusual for IBM to change default behavior without giving some mechanism 
to set an installation default.

.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Frank Swarbrick
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 1:30 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: (External):Re: SDSF DA display in z/OS 2.3

Interesting!  Though I'm not sure I'm getting that exact behavior.  I can place 
my cursor on the JOBNAME and then press enter, and it will behave as if I had 
placed ? in the NP field and pressed enter.  But I can't tab to the job name.  
It bypasses it and goes to the Ptry column.

Does anyone know how to activate "point and click" for Micro Focus Reflection 
Workspace TN3270 emulator?  If I point to the field and double click it simply 
highlights (reverse video) the job name value.

Frank

From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
Jousma, David <01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 1:23 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SDSF DA display in z/OS 2.3

It is because JOBNAME is now a point and shoot field.  Tab to it, and you get 
the equivalent of ? next to it.  Go up to Options, 3- Screen, 9 Change fixed 
field point-and-shoot to OFF, and you get the old behavior.

_
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
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Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 2:49 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: SDSF DA display in z/OS 2.3


For as long as I can remember, the SDSF DA display marks 'swapped in' tasks 
with highlighting on all columns, including task name. In z/OS 2.3, we notice 
that columns are highlighted

Re: AW: Re: CFSIZER no longer available?

[John Eells]

Peter Hunkeler wrote:

Not attacking you personally, not at all, but do you have any information about 
all the other broken links, such as the WLM tools page, etc?



I am sorry, but I do not.  IBM is restructuring its website, and making 
this particular omelet has unfortunately broken a few eggs.  In some 
cases, I know who to engage (notes and IMs are cheap), and in some I 
have no idea who to ask (finding the right person can take days).


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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program design)

[Mike Schwab]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiRMGYQfXrs
On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 7:23 AM Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek)
 wrote:
>
> Nothing beats rap in the original Klingon however... :-)
>
> --
> Lionel B. Dyck (Contractor)  <
> Mainframe Systems Programmer – RavenTek Solution Partners
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
> Behalf Of David Crayford
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 7:18 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform 
> program design)
>
> IMHO, Rammstein should only be listened to in German! They are one of
> the only German bands that have had mainstream commercial success in
> English speaking countries
> singing in their native tongue. 99 luftballons doesn't have the same
> impact! :)
>
>
> On 11/06/2018 6:15 PM, Ron hawkins wrote:
> > You're quoting the English version. I am quoting the translation from the 
> > original German.
> >
> > Liberally from Google:
> >   Du hast mich gefragt, und ich hab nichts gesagt!
> >   You asked me and I did not say anything!
> >
> > And from human:
> >   You have asked me and I have said nothing.
> >
> >
> > There are several differences between the English and German versions, but 
> > your version below seems to be a mix of the translation, and the English 
> > version. For example, the English version uses "hate" instead of "have" 
> > (hasst instead of hast).
> >
> > I don't speak German, but I love the song and remembered some of the 
> > translation.
> >
> > Ron
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
> > Savor, Thomas (Alpharetta)
> > Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 10:57 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform 
> > program design)
> >
> > Weird, here is the English translation I have:
> > You
> > You have
> > You have me
> > You have me to say
> > You have me to say
> > And I did not obey
> >
> > Will you until death does sever
> > Be upright to her forever
> >
> > Never
> >
> > Will you 'til death be her rider
> > Her lover too, to stay inside her
> >
> > Never
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tom Savor
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
> > Behalf Of Ron hawkins
> > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2018 3:16 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program design)
> >
> > You have asked me and I have said nothing.
> >
> >  From Du Hast - Rammstein.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
> > David Crayford
> > Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 11:13 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform 
> > program design)
> >
> > On 9/06/2018 7:03 AM, Ron hawkins wrote:
> >> You have asked me and I have said nothing.
> > Are they lyrics from a Barnsey song?
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On
> >> Behalf Of Savor, Thomas (Alpharetta)
> >> Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 9:50 PM
> >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> >> Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform
> >> program design)
> >>
> >> Rammstein
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Tom Savor
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> >> On Behalf Of David Crayford
> >> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 12:12 AM
> >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> >> Subject: Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program
> >> design)
> >>
> >> On 8/06/2018 3:15 AM, Peter Hunkeler wrote:
> >>> It's amost Friday, right. At least here in Zurich
>  Rap music is performed by those that can not sing so others can not 
>  think.
> >>> rap music? Isn't this a contradiction in terms ;-)
> >> What do you listen to, Beethoven? Ramstein? :)
> >>
> >>
> >>> Apologies to all the rappers out there, and the ones who like that 
> >>> contradiction, ahem.. music. No offense intended.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Peter Hunkeler
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: PROBLEM WITH MODEL PARM

[esmie moo]

 Bill,
Thanks for the tip.  The cluster that I was using for the model was the data 
component.   A massive thanks.
Thanks to all who responded with their suggestions. 

On Monday, June 11, 2018, 12:00:50 p.m. EDT, Bill Bishop (TMNA) 
 wrote:  
 
 It could be because you are modeling after the data component and not the 
cluster base.

Try modeling it after DSNDBC, not DSNDBD.  DSNDBC is the cluster component name 
and DSNDBD is the data component name.

Thanks

Bill Bishop
Consultant, Mainframe Engineer
Mainframe and Scheduling | Infrastructure Technology Services 
Toyota Motor North America
 bill.bis...@toyota.com
Office:  (469) 292-5149
Cell:      (502) 316-4386

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of esmie moo
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 10:06 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: PROBLEM WITH MODEL PARM

Gentle Readers,
I am encountering an error using the IDCAMS/MODEL parm.  I googled the error 
message but the explanation is not clear.

 



IDCAMS  SYSTEM SERVICES  TIME: 09:36:39 
  

   DEFINE CLUSTER -

 (NAME(PROD.DSNDBD.DSNMDCDB.DSNPROGB.I0001.A001)-   

  VOL(PROD13) -

 MODEL('PROD.DSNDBD.DSNMDCDB.DSNPROGL.I0001.A001')   -  
 

  )

IDC3501I  MODEL ENTYPE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THEOBJECT BEING DEFINED  

IDC3003IFUNCTION TERMINATED. CONDITION CODE IS 12  

    
IDC0002IIDCAMS PROCESSING COMPLETE. MAXIMUM CONDITION CODE WAS 12 Can you spot 
my mistake?
Thanks.








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Re: AW: Re: CFSIZER no longer available?

[Mike Schwab]

Its more like they broke all the eggs.  And it would be entirely
possible to have the old and new pages and switch only when the new
pages are working.
On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 12:04 PM John Eells  wrote:
>
> Peter Hunkeler wrote:
> > Not attacking you personally, not at all, but do you have any information 
> > about all the other broken links, such as the WLM tools page, etc?
> >
>
> I am sorry, but I do not.  IBM is restructuring its website, and making
> this particular omelet has unfortunately broken a few eggs.  In some
> cases, I know who to engage (notes and IMs are cheap), and in some I
> have no idea who to ask (finding the right person can take days).
>
> --
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> IBM Poughkeepsie
> ee...@us.ibm.com
>
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program design)

[Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek)]

That's the way it should be :-)

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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Mike Schwab
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 12:16 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform 
program design)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiRMGYQfXrs
On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 7:23 AM Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek)
 wrote:
>
> Nothing beats rap in the original Klingon however... :-)
>
> --
> Lionel B. Dyck (Contractor)  <
> Mainframe Systems Programmer – RavenTek Solution Partners
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
> Behalf Of David Crayford
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 7:18 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform 
> program design)
>
> IMHO, Rammstein should only be listened to in German! They are one of
> the only German bands that have had mainstream commercial success in
> English speaking countries
> singing in their native tongue. 99 luftballons doesn't have the same
> impact! :)
>
>
> On 11/06/2018 6:15 PM, Ron hawkins wrote:
> > You're quoting the English version. I am quoting the translation from the 
> > original German.
> >
> > Liberally from Google:
> >   Du hast mich gefragt, und ich hab nichts gesagt!
> >   You asked me and I did not say anything!
> >
> > And from human:
> >   You have asked me and I have said nothing.
> >
> >
> > There are several differences between the English and German versions, but 
> > your version below seems to be a mix of the translation, and the English 
> > version. For example, the English version uses "hate" instead of "have" 
> > (hasst instead of hast).
> >
> > I don't speak German, but I love the song and remembered some of the 
> > translation.
> >
> > Ron
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
> > Savor, Thomas (Alpharetta)
> > Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 10:57 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform 
> > program design)
> >
> > Weird, here is the English translation I have:
> > You
> > You have
> > You have me
> > You have me to say
> > You have me to say
> > And I did not obey
> >
> > Will you until death does sever
> > Be upright to her forever
> >
> > Never
> >
> > Will you 'til death be her rider
> > Her lover too, to stay inside her
> >
> > Never
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tom Savor
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
> > Behalf Of Ron hawkins
> > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2018 3:16 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program design)
> >
> > You have asked me and I have said nothing.
> >
> >  From Du Hast - Rammstein.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
> > David Crayford
> > Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 11:13 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform 
> > program design)
> >
> > On 9/06/2018 7:03 AM, Ron hawkins wrote:
> >> You have asked me and I have said nothing.
> > Are they lyrics from a Barnsey song?
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On
> >> Behalf Of Savor, Thomas (Alpharetta)
> >> Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 9:50 PM
> >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> >> Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform
> >> program design)
> >>
> >> Rammstein
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Tom Savor
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> >> On Behalf Of David Crayford
> >> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 12:12 AM
> >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> >> Subject: Re: OT: Rap music (was Re: opinion: multi-platform program
> >> design)
> >>
> >> On 8/06/2018 3:15 AM, Peter Hunkeler wrote:
> >>> It's amost Friday, right. At least here in Zurich
>  Rap music is performed by those that can not sing so others can not 
>  think.
> >>> rap music? Isn't this a contradiction in terms ;-)
> >> What do you listen to, Beethoven? Ramstein? :)
> >>
> >>
> >>> Apologies to all the rappers out there, and the ones who like that 
> >>> contradiction, ahem.. music. No offense intended.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Peter Hunkeler
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -
> >>> - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
> >>> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO
> >>> IBM-MAIN
> >

Re: [External] Re: AW: Re: CFSIZER no longer available?

[Pommier, Rex]

John,

Thank you for all you are doing in this (and every other) situation.  I know 
you aren't responsible for the muck-ups that happen throughout IBM's web site 
and it seems like sometimes you bear the brunt of other people's mistakes - 
simply guilt by association.  I think I speak for the vast majority of the 
people on this list when I say again, thank you for your perseverance and 
patience.

Rex

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of John Eells
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 12:05 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [External] Re: AW: Re: CFSIZER no longer available?

Peter Hunkeler wrote:
> Not attacking you personally, not at all, but do you have any information 
> about all the other broken links, such as the WLM tools page, etc?
> 

I am sorry, but I do not.  IBM is restructuring its website, and making 
this particular omelet has unfortunately broken a few eggs.  In some 
cases, I know who to engage (notes and IMs are cheap), and in some I 
have no idea who to ask (finding the right person can take days).

-- 
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Re: [External] Re: AW: Re: CFSIZER no longer available?

[Allan Staller]

I concur. Thank you John.

My wrath is directed at the PFCSK's doing the work!



-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Pommier, Rex
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 1:46 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: [External] Re: AW: Re: CFSIZER no longer available?

John,

Thank you for all you are doing in this (and every other) situation.  I know 
you aren't responsible for the muck-ups that happen throughout IBM's web site 
and it seems like sometimes you bear the brunt of other people's mistakes - 
simply guilt by association.  I think I speak for the vast majority of the 
people on this list when I say again, thank you for your perseverance and 
patience.

Rex

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of John Eells
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 12:05 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [External] Re: AW: Re: CFSIZER no longer available?

Peter Hunkeler wrote:
> Not attacking you personally, not at all, but do you have any information 
> about all the other broken links, such as the WLM tools page, etc?
>

I am sorry, but I do not.  IBM is restructuring its website, and making this 
particular omelet has unfortunately broken a few eggs.  In some cases, I know 
who to engage (notes and IMs are cheap), and in some I have no idea who to ask 
(finding the right person can take days).

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REXX to change Date in PDS member

[saurabh khandelwal]

Hello Group,


I am new to rexx and our new requirement to edit one PDS member with
previous day day date today's date on regular basis .


We are doing this  to edit our full set of JCL on daily basis according to
this new date by over writing  previous datr date and putting new date.


currently we do this manually by editing below member every day with new
date ( current date. ) .


BROWSEBKP.JCL.CNTL(BKPDABD1) - 01.99Line  Col 001
080

* Top of Data **


D18610

Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member

[Seymour J Metz]

You can write an ISPF script to edit the member.


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http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3


From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
saurabh khandelwal 
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 3:11 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
Subject: REXX to change Date in PDS member

Hello Group,


I am new to rexx and our new requirement to edit one PDS member with
previous day day date today's date on regular basis .


We are doing this  to edit our full set of JCL on daily basis according to
this new date by over writing  previous datr date and putting new date.


currently we do this manually by editing below member every day with new
date ( current date. ) .


BROWSEBKP.JCL.CNTL(BKPDABD1) - 01.99Line  Col 001
080

* Top of Data **


D18610

Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member

[PINION, RICHARD W.]

Why re-invent the wheel, use IPOUPDTE.

//UPDATE1  EXEC  PGM=IPOUPDTE,PARM=UPDATE 
//*   
//*   *   
//* PARM=UPDATECAUSES IPOUPDTE TO CHANGE PDS MEMBERS  *   
//*   *   
//*   *   
//*   
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*   
//SYSUDUMP DD  SYSOUT=*   
//@LIB DD  DSN=x.my.CNTL,DISP=SHR   
//* FROM  *   TO  *   
//SYSINDD  DATA,DLM='@@'  
xx On Behalf Of 
Seymour J Metz
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 3:24 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member

[External Email]

You can write an ISPF script to edit the member.


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
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Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 3:11 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
Subject: REXX to change Date in PDS member

Hello Group,


I am new to rexx and our new requirement to edit one PDS member with previous 
day day date today's date on regular basis .


We are doing this  to edit our full set of JCL on daily basis according to this 
new date by over writing  previous datr date and putting new date.


currently we do this manually by editing below member every day with new date ( 
current date. ) .


BROWSEBKP.JCL.CNTL(BKPDABD1) - 01.99Line  Col 001
080

* Top of Data **


D18610

Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member

[Seymour J Metz]

Does the OP want to change a record containing the date, or does he want to the 
date in the ISPF statistics?


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PINION, RICHARD W. 
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 3:27 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
Subject: Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member

Why re-invent the wheel, use IPOUPDTE.

//UPDATE1  EXEC  PGM=IPOUPDTE,PARM=UPDATE
//*
//*   *
//* PARM=UPDATECAUSES IPOUPDTE TO CHANGE PDS MEMBERS  *
//*   *
//*   *
//*
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//SYSUDUMP DD  SYSOUT=*
//@LIB DD  DSN=x.my.CNTL,DISP=SHR
//* FROM  *   TO  *
//SYSINDD  DATA,DLM='@@'
xx On Behalf Of 
Seymour J Metz
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 3:24 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member

[External Email]

You can write an ISPF script to edit the member.


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
saurabh khandelwal 
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 3:11 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
Subject: REXX to change Date in PDS member

Hello Group,


I am new to rexx and our new requirement to edit one PDS member with previous 
day day date today's date on regular basis .


We are doing this  to edit our full set of JCL on daily basis according to this 
new date by over writing  previous datr date and putting new date.


currently we do this manually by editing below member every day with new date ( 
current date. ) .


BROWSEBKP.JCL.CNTL(BKPDABD1) - 01.99Line  Col 001
080

* Top of Data **


D18610

Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member

[PINION, RICHARD W.]

" BROWSEBKP.JCL.CNTL(BKPDABD1) - 01.99Line  Col 001
080

* Top of Data **


D18610 On Behalf Of 
Seymour J Metz
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 3:45 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member

[External Email]

Does the OP want to change a record containing the date, or does he want to the 
date in the ISPF statistics?


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
PINION, RICHARD W. 
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 3:27 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
Subject: Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member

Why re-invent the wheel, use IPOUPDTE.

//UPDATE1  EXEC  PGM=IPOUPDTE,PARM=UPDATE
//*
//*   *
//* PARM=UPDATECAUSES IPOUPDTE TO CHANGE PDS MEMBERS  *
//*   *
//*   *
//*
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//SYSUDUMP DD  SYSOUT=*
//@LIB DD  DSN=x.my.CNTL,DISP=SHR
//* FROM  *   TO  *
//SYSINDD  DATA,DLM='@@'
xx On Behalf Of 
Seymour J Metz
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 3:24 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member

[External Email]

You can write an ISPF script to edit the member.


--
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http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3


From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
saurabh khandelwal 
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 3:11 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
Subject: REXX to change Date in PDS member

Hello Group,


I am new to rexx and our new requirement to edit one PDS member with previous 
day day date today's date on regular basis .


We are doing this  to edit our full set of JCL on daily basis according to this 
new date by over writing  previous datr date and putting new date.


currently we do this manually by editing below member every day with new date ( 
current date. ) .


BROWSEBKP.JCL.CNTL(BKPDABD1) - 01.99Line  Col 001
080

* Top of Data **


D18610

Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member

[Seymour J Metz]

WTF? Are D18610 and D18611 supposed to be dates/ If not, what's your point? If 
so, what's with the one digit month?


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
PINION, RICHARD W. 
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 3:47 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
Subject: Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member

" BROWSEBKP.JCL.CNTL(BKPDABD1) - 01.99Line  Col 001
080

* Top of Data **


D18610 On Behalf Of 
Seymour J Metz
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 3:45 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member

[External Email]

Does the OP want to change a record containing the date, or does he want to the 
date in the ISPF statistics?


--
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
PINION, RICHARD W. 
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 3:27 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
Subject: Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member

Why re-invent the wheel, use IPOUPDTE.

//UPDATE1  EXEC  PGM=IPOUPDTE,PARM=UPDATE
//*
//*   *
//* PARM=UPDATECAUSES IPOUPDTE TO CHANGE PDS MEMBERS  *
//*   *
//*   *
//*
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//SYSUDUMP DD  SYSOUT=*
//@LIB DD  DSN=x.my.CNTL,DISP=SHR
//* FROM  *   TO  *
//SYSINDD  DATA,DLM='@@'
xx On Behalf Of 
Seymour J Metz
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 3:24 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member

[External Email]

You can write an ISPF script to edit the member.


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http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3


From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
saurabh khandelwal 
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 3:11 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
Subject: REXX to change Date in PDS member

Hello Group,


I am new to rexx and our new requirement to edit one PDS member with previous 
day day date today's date on regular basis .


We are doing this  to edit our full set of JCL on daily basis according to this 
new date by over writing  previous datr date and putting new date.


currently we do this manually by editing below member every day with new date ( 
current date. ) .


BROWSEBKP.JCL.CNTL(BKPDABD1) - 01.99Line  Col 001
080

* Top of Data **


D18610

Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member

[PINION, RICHARD W.]

That was part of the original post.  It appears to me, that the OP wants to 
update members in a PDS.  As for the contents of the members, I have no 
comments.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Seymour J Metz
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 3:53 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member

[External Email]

WTF? Are D18610 and D18611 supposed to be dates/ If not, what's your point? If 
so, what's with the one digit month?


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
PINION, RICHARD W. 
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 3:47 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
Subject: Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member

" BROWSEBKP.JCL.CNTL(BKPDABD1) - 01.99Line  Col 001
080

* Top of Data **


D18610 On Behalf Of 
Seymour J Metz
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 3:45 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member

[External Email]

Does the OP want to change a record containing the date, or does he want to the 
date in the ISPF statistics?


--
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http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3


From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
PINION, RICHARD W. 
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 3:27 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
Subject: Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member

Why re-invent the wheel, use IPOUPDTE.

//UPDATE1  EXEC  PGM=IPOUPDTE,PARM=UPDATE
//*
//*   *
//* PARM=UPDATECAUSES IPOUPDTE TO CHANGE PDS MEMBERS  *
//*   *
//*   *
//*
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//SYSUDUMP DD  SYSOUT=*
//@LIB DD  DSN=x.my.CNTL,DISP=SHR
//* FROM  *   TO  *
//SYSINDD  DATA,DLM='@@'
xx On Behalf Of 
Seymour J Metz
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 3:24 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member

[External Email]

You can write an ISPF script to edit the member.


--
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http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3


From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
saurabh khandelwal 
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 3:11 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
Subject: REXX to change Date in PDS member

Hello Group,


I am new to rexx and our new requirement to edit one PDS member with previous 
day day date today's date on regular basis .


We are doing this  to edit our full set of JCL on daily basis according to this 
new date by over writing  previous datr date and putting new date.


currently we do this manually by editing below member every day with new date ( 
current date. ) .


BROWSEBKP.JCL.CNTL(BKPDABD1) - 01.99Line  Col 001
080

* Top of Data **


D18610

Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member

[Carmen Vitullo]

is the date format YYMDD ? 
or Julian , yeah WTH ? 



Carmen Vitullo 

- Original Message -

From: "Seymour J Metz"  
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 2:53:03 PM 
Subject: Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member 

WTF? Are D18610 and D18611 supposed to be dates/ If not, what's your point? If 
so, what's with the one digit month? 


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
PINION, RICHARD W.  
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 3:47 PM 
To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu 
Subject: Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member 

" BROWSE BKP.JCL.CNTL(BKPDABD1) - 01.99 Line  Col 001 
080 

* Top of Data ** 
 

D18610 On Behalf Of 
Seymour J Metz 
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 3:45 PM 
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Subject: Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member 

[External Email] 

Does the OP want to change a record containing the date, or does he want to the 
date in the ISPF statistics? 


-- 
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
PINION, RICHARD W.  
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 3:27 PM 
To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu 
Subject: Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member 

Why re-invent the wheel, use IPOUPDTE. 

//UPDATE1 EXEC PGM=IPOUPDTE,PARM=UPDATE 
//* 
//* * 
//* PARM=UPDATE CAUSES IPOUPDTE TO CHANGE PDS MEMBERS * 
//* * 
//* * 
//* 
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* 
//SYSUDUMP DD SYSOUT=* 
//@LIB DD DSN=x.my.CNTL,DISP=SHR 
//* FROM * TO * 
//SYSIN DD DATA,DLM='@@' 
xx On Behalf Of 
Seymour J Metz 
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 3:24 PM 
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Subject: Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member 

[External Email] 

You can write an ISPF script to edit the member. 


-- 
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
saurabh khandelwal  
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 3:11 PM 
To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu 
Subject: REXX to change Date in PDS member 

Hello Group, 


I am new to rexx and our new requirement to edit one PDS member with previous 
day day date today's date on regular basis . 


We are doing this to edit our full set of JCL on daily basis according to this 
new date by over writing previous datr date and putting new date. 


currently we do this manually by editing below member every day with new date ( 
current date. ) . 


BROWSE BKP.JCL.CNTL(BKPDABD1) - 01.99 Line  Col 001 
080 

* Top of Data ** 
 

D18610

Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member

[Bernd Oppolzer]

Hi Saurabh,

you should describe in more detail,
what the content in the PDS member should look before and after
your daily change,

for example (just wild guess):

before the change:

D18610
Hello Group,


I am new to rexx and our new requirement to edit one PDS member with
previous day day date today's date on regular basis .


We are doing this  to edit our full set of JCL on daily basis according to
this new date by over writing  previous datr date and putting new date.


currently we do this manually by editing below member every day with new
date ( current date. ) .


7BROWSEBKP.JCL.CNTL(BKPDABD1) - 01.99Line  Col 001
080

* Top of Data **


D18610

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Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member

[Bernd Oppolzer]

... october :-)


Am 11.06.2018 um 22:10 schrieb Bernd Oppolzer:

Hi Saurabh,

you should describe in more detail,
what the content in the PDS member should look before and after
your daily change,

for example (just wild guess):

before the change:

D18610
Hello Group,


I am new to rexx and our new requirement to edit one PDS member with
previous day day date today's date on regular basis .


We are doing this  to edit our full set of JCL on daily basis 
according to

this new date by over writing  previous datr date and putting new date.


currently we do this manually by editing below member every day with new
date ( current date. ) .


7BROWSE    BKP.JCL.CNTL(BKPDABD1) - 01.99    Line  
Col 001

080

* Top of Data 
**



D18610basis and update above pds member with  current date and later on 
running

JCL having new dates.

Can you please help.









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Re: DAF (CBT 094) - Unknown Datatype x01BB

[Peter Vander Woude]

>>Has anyone seen on z/OS2.2 I see DAF is reporting "Unknown Datatype x01BB" 
>>and while downloading and assemble/linkedit latest CBT 094 >>gives me 0255 
>>for various undefined symbol though I have checked the maclib .

I see that on z/os 2.1 also.  The issue is related to the RACF type 80 with the 
Relocate 2 section where the SMF8XTP2 value has a value of 443 (x1BB).  This 
extended relocate value is a 1 byte field that is documented  as being 
Authentication information.

What I've done is add to the DAFRR2 CSECT code after the branch to T080D408, 
that does

CLC   SMF8TPX2,=AL2(443)
BE  T080D443

Then further down, find the T080D408 label.  Do a repeat of it's comments thru 
the B RR2INCR.  Change the label to T080D443.

After you make this, you won't see the Unknown Datatype x01BB

Peter

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Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member

[Sri h Kolusu]

>>> is the date format YYMDD ?  > or Julian , yeah WTH ?

Carmen,

I am guessing that OP date format is YYMMDD but needs to  remove the
leading zero for Month (January thru September ) and the same for Day (01
thru 09). Since the year is already 18, we don't have worry about it for
another 82 years. :)

Saurabh,

You can try this

/* REXX */
"ALLOC FI(OUTDD) DA('BKP.JCL.CNTL(BKPDABD1)') SHR REUSE"

TODAY = DATE('S')
YESTERDAY = TODAY - 1
CDAYMM= STRIP(SUBSTR(TODAY,5,2),'L','0')
CDAYDD= STRIP(SUBSTR(TODAY,7,2),'L','0')
YDAYMM= STRIP(SUBSTR(YESTERDAY,5,2),'L','0')
YDAYDD= STRIP(SUBSTR(YESTERDAY,7,2),'L','0')

LINEOUT   = 'D'||,
 SUBSTR(YESTERDAY,3,2) ||,
 YDAYMM||,
 YDAYDD||,
'<'||,
'D'||,
 SUBSTR(TODAY,3,2) ||,
 CDAYMM||,
 CDAYDD||,
'<'||,
'VOL=SER<'
QUEUE LINEOUT
"EXECIO 1 DISKW OUTDD (FINIS"
"FREE FI(OUTDD)"


I will let you ponder about updating the stats upon updating the contents
of the member

Thanks,
Kolusu

IBM Mainframe Discussion List  wrote on
06/11/2018 12:57:09 PM:

> From: Carmen Vitullo 
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Date: 06/11/2018 12:57 PM
> Subject: Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member
> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
>
> is the date format YYMDD ?
> or Julian , yeah WTH ?

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Re: [External] Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member

[Pommier, Rex]

Regarding the removal of leading zeros, how does one tell the difference 
between, for example, January 11 and November 1?  It's possible, albeit 
unlikely, that the OP is using hex notation for the month?  :-)

Rex

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Sri h Kolusu
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 3:27 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [External] Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member

>>> is the date format YYMDD ?  > or Julian , yeah WTH ?

Carmen,

I am guessing that OP date format is YYMMDD but needs to  remove the
leading zero for Month (January thru September ) and the same for Day (01
thru 09). Since the year is already 18, we don't have worry about it for
another 82 years. :)

Saurabh,

You can try this

/* REXX */
"ALLOC FI(OUTDD) DA('BKP.JCL.CNTL(BKPDABD1)') SHR REUSE"

TODAY = DATE('S')
YESTERDAY = TODAY - 1
CDAYMM= STRIP(SUBSTR(TODAY,5,2),'L','0')
CDAYDD= STRIP(SUBSTR(TODAY,7,2),'L','0')
YDAYMM= STRIP(SUBSTR(YESTERDAY,5,2),'L','0')
YDAYDD= STRIP(SUBSTR(YESTERDAY,7,2),'L','0')

LINEOUT   = 'D'||,
 SUBSTR(YESTERDAY,3,2) ||,
 YDAYMM||,
 YDAYDD||,
'<'||,
'D'||,
 SUBSTR(TODAY,3,2) ||,
 CDAYMM||,
 CDAYDD||,
'<'||,
'VOL=SER<'
QUEUE LINEOUT
"EXECIO 1 DISKW OUTDD (FINIS"
"FREE FI(OUTDD)"


I will let you ponder about updating the stats upon updating the contents
of the member

Thanks,
Kolusu

IBM Mainframe Discussion List  wrote on
06/11/2018 12:57:09 PM:

> From: Carmen Vitullo 
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Date: 06/11/2018 12:57 PM
> Subject: Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member
> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
>
> is the date format YYMDD ?
> or Julian , yeah WTH ?

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Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member

[Lou Losee]

My take from reading the OPs post is that he wants to change some JCL,
therefore change a record not statistics.

Lou
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On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 2:45 PM Seymour J Metz  wrote:

> Does the OP want to change a record containing the date, or does he want
> to the date in the ISPF statistics?
>
>
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>
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf
> of PINION, RICHARD W. 
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 3:27 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member
>
> Why re-invent the wheel, use IPOUPDTE.
>
> //UPDATE1  EXEC  PGM=IPOUPDTE,PARM=UPDATE
> //*
> //*   *
> //* PARM=UPDATECAUSES IPOUPDTE TO CHANGE PDS MEMBERS  *
> //*   *
> //*   *
> //*
> //SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
> //SYSUDUMP DD  SYSOUT=*
> //@LIB DD  DSN=x.my.CNTL,DISP=SHR
> //* FROM  *   TO  *
> //SYSINDD  DATA,DLM='@@'
> xx
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf
> Of Seymour J Metz
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 3:24 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member
>
> [External Email]
>
> You can write an ISPF script to edit the member.
>
>
> --
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> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf
> of saurabh khandelwal 
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 3:11 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
> Subject: REXX to change Date in PDS member
>
> Hello Group,
>
>
> I am new to rexx and our new requirement to edit one PDS member with
> previous day day date today's date on regular basis .
>
>
> We are doing this  to edit our full set of JCL on daily basis according to
> this new date by over writing  previous datr date and putting new date.
>
>
> currently we do this manually by editing below member every day with new
> date ( current date. ) .
>
>
> BROWSEBKP.JCL.CNTL(BKPDABD1) - 01.99Line  Col 001
> 080
>
> * Top of Data
> **
> 
>
> D18610
>
>  Bottom of Data
> 
>
> can we automate this process by creating a rexx which will run on daily
> basis and update above pds member with  current date and later on running
> JCL having new dates.
>
> Can you please help.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks & Regards
> Saurabh Khandelwal
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Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member

[Tom Marchant]

On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 13:26:57 -0700, Sri h Kolusu wrote:

>I am guessing that OP date format is YYMMDD but needs to  remove the
>leading zero for Month (January thru September ) and the same for Day (01
>thru 09).

If that's the case, what date is 19117?

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Re: [External] Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member

[Sri h Kolusu]

>>> Regarding the removal of leading zeros, how does one tell the >
difference between, for example, January 11 and November 1?  It's possible,
albeit unlikely, that the OP is using hex notation for the > month?  :-)

>>If that's the case, what date is 19117?

Rex/Tom

It was merely a guess from me about the date format  from OP.  He needs to
clarify about the format or how he plans to use that format later on.

Thanks,
Kolusu

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06/11/2018 01:35:30 PM:

> From: "Pommier, Rex" 
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Date: 06/11/2018 01:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [External] Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member
> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
>
> Regarding the removal of leading zeros, how does one tell the
> difference between, for example, January 11 and November 1?  It's
> possible, albeit unlikely, that the OP is using hex notation for the
> month?  :-)
>
> Rex
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> ] On Behalf Of Sri h Kolusu
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 3:27 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: [External] Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member
>
> >>> is the date format YYMDD ?  > or Julian , yeah WTH ?
>
> Carmen,
>
> I am guessing that OP date format is YYMMDD but needs to  remove the
> leading zero for Month (January thru September ) and the same for Day (01
> thru 09). Since the year is already 18, we don't have worry about it for
> another 82 years. :)
>
> Saurabh,
>
> You can try this
>
> /* REXX */
> "ALLOC FI(OUTDD) DA('BKP.JCL.CNTL(BKPDABD1)') SHR REUSE"
>
> TODAY = DATE('S')
> YESTERDAY = TODAY - 1
> CDAYMM= STRIP(SUBSTR(TODAY,5,2),'L','0')
> CDAYDD= STRIP(SUBSTR(TODAY,7,2),'L','0')
> YDAYMM= STRIP(SUBSTR(YESTERDAY,5,2),'L','0')
> YDAYDD= STRIP(SUBSTR(YESTERDAY,7,2),'L','0')
>
> LINEOUT   = 'D'||,
>  SUBSTR(YESTERDAY,3,2) ||,
>  YDAYMM||,
>  YDAYDD||,
> '<'||,
> 'D'||,
>  SUBSTR(TODAY,3,2) ||,
>  CDAYMM||,
>  CDAYDD||,
> '<'||,
> 'VOL=SER<'
> QUEUE LINEOUT
> "EXECIO 1 DISKW OUTDD (FINIS"
> "FREE FI(OUTDD)"
>
>
> I will let you ponder about updating the stats upon updating the contents
> of the member
>
> Thanks,
> Kolusu
>
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>
> > From: Carmen Vitullo 
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Date: 06/11/2018 12:57 PM
> > Subject: Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member
> > Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
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> > is the date format YYMDD ?
> > or Julian , yeah WTH ?
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Re: [External] Re: REXX to change Date in PDS member

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 14:55:02 -0700, Sri h Kolusu wrote:

 Regarding the removal of leading zeros, how does one tell the >
>difference between, for example, January 11 and November 1?  It's possible,
>albeit unlikely, that the OP is using hex notation for the > month?  :-)
>
>>>If that's the case, what date is 19117?
>
>Rex/Tom
>
>It was merely a guess from me about the date format  from OP.  He needs to
>clarify about the format or how he plans to use that format later on.
> 
How about an international standard:  https://xkcd.com/1179/

Also, I'll recommend generating the daily JCL from a fixed template.
Genearating each day's from the previous increases the risk that an
error once introduced will long persist.

The Rexx DATE(,,) function has great facilty for date formatting/conversion.
The grievous lack is of any support in Rexx for UTC and timezones.

-- gil

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Re: ISPF programming with assembler

[Beverly Caldwell]

Well, it's a variable which you will have to define like any other variable
in your program. Once you do that it can be accessed  and read. I don't
recall its actual name. Check the table display service section in the
developers guide.

On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 7:35 AM, Immo  wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
>
> I'd like to retrieve the unique row-id for an entry in an ISPF table from
> an
> assembler program (not the crp!). Unfortunately I didn't find out how to
> get
> hold of the value on my own and so far I haven't found a usable example.
>
>
>
> Any hint or pointer to a working example in assembler language would be
> great!
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
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JCL ERROR Anybody ?

[Beverly Caldwell]

This is the second time this has happened to me in as many months:

A job in the DB2 install process:

Job has 12 steps, the, first 11 are HLASM steps compilingl the various bits
and pieces needed by DB2. Step 1 defines a temporary pds with
DISP=(NEW,PASS) gives it some DCB info even a DSORG=PO. Name is
&&TPDS(member name) . Steps 2 - 11 output the compiled code into this
temporary pds. using &&TPDS(member name) DISP=OLD,PASS.  OK so far. Step 12
allocates the entire pds to a ddname to service link edit INCLUDE
statements.and immediately after that in the JCL alllocates &&TPDS(member)
to use as SYSIN to the linkage editor. This allocation fails with a dataset
not found.jcl error All dispositions except the first and even includig the
last (failing) one are OLD, PASS.

Anybody have any idea what's going on here ? I'm hoping someone will pop up
with a "Oh you can't do that" and tell me why. Either that or it's some
ancient quirk of JCL.

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Re: JCL ERROR Anybody ?

[Sri h Kolusu]

> OK so far. Step 12 > allocates the entire pds to a ddname to service link
edit INCLUDE  statements.and immediately after that in the JCL alllocates
&&TPDS(member)
> to use as SYSIN to the linkage editor. This allocation fails with a
dataset  not found.jcl error All dispositions except the first and even
includig the
> last (failing) one are OLD, PASS.

Beverly,

If you are referring the same temp dataset with 2 different DDnames in the
same step, then you probably need VOL=REF

something like this

//STEP0100 EXEC PGM=SORT
//SORTOUT  DD DSN=&&IN,DISP=(,PASS),SPACE=(CYL,(1,1),RLSE)
...
//STEP0200 EXEC PGM=ABCD
//INA  DD DSN=&&IN,DISP=(OLD,PASS),VOL=REF=*.STEP0100.SORTOUT
//INB  DD DSN=&&IN,DISP=(OLD,PASS),VOL=REF=*.STEP0100.SORTOUT


Kolusu





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Re: JCL ERROR Anybody ?

[Beverly Caldwell]

I see. Never even considered that. This came from IBM via the DB2 order. Of
course that doesn't mean they actually tested it!

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 4:49 PM, Sri h Kolusu  wrote:

> > OK so far. Step 12 > allocates the entire pds to a ddname to service link
> edit INCLUDE  statements.and immediately after that in the JCL alllocates
> &&TPDS(member)
> > to use as SYSIN to the linkage editor. This allocation fails with a
> dataset  not found.jcl error All dispositions except the first and even
> includig the
> > last (failing) one are OLD, PASS.
>
> Beverly,
>
> If you are referring the same temp dataset with 2 different DDnames in the
> same step, then you probably need VOL=REF
>
> something like this
>
> //STEP0100 EXEC PGM=SORT
> //SORTOUT  DD DSN=&&IN,DISP=(,PASS),SPACE=(CYL,(1,1),RLSE)
> ...
> //STEP0200 EXEC PGM=ABCD
> //INA  DD DSN=&&IN,DISP=(OLD,PASS),VOL=REF=*.STEP0100.SORTOUT
> //INB  DD DSN=&&IN,DISP=(OLD,PASS),VOL=REF=*.STEP0100.SORTOUT
>
>
> Kolusu
>
>
>
>
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Re: JCL ERROR Anybody ?

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 16:49:50 -0700, Sri h Kolusu wrote:

>> OK so far. Step 12 > allocates the entire pds to a ddname to service link
>edit INCLUDE  statements.and immediately after that in the JCL alllocates
>&&TPDS(member)
>> to use as SYSIN to the linkage editor. This allocation fails with a
>dataset  not found.jcl error All dispositions except the first and even
>includig the
>> last (failing) one are OLD, PASS.
>
>Beverly,
>
>If you are referring the same temp dataset with 2 different DDnames in the
>same step, then you probably need VOL=REF
>
>something like this
>
>//STEP0100 EXEC PGM=SORT
>//SORTOUT  DD DSN=&&IN,DISP=(,PASS),SPACE=(CYL,(1,1),RLSE)
>...
>//STEP0200 EXEC PGM=ABCD
>//INA  DD DSN=&&IN,DISP=(OLD,PASS),VOL=REF=*.STEP0100.SORTOUT
>//INB  DD DSN=&&IN,DISP=(OLD,PASS),VOL=REF=*.STEP0100.SORTOUT
> 
A little more specifically:
>//STEP0200 EXEC PGM=IEWL
>//SYSLIB  DD DSN=&&IN,DISP=(OLD,PASS),VOL=REF=*.STEP0100.SORTOUT
>//SYSLIN  DD DSN=&&IN(member),DISP=(OLD,PASS),VOL=REF=*.STEP0100.SORTOUT

On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 16:34:22 -0700, Beverly Caldwell wrote:
...
>Anybody have any idea what's going on here ? I'm hoping someone will pop up
>with a "Oh you can't do that" and tell me why. Either that or it's some
>ancient quirk of JCL.
> 
"ancient quirk" pretty much covers it.  Besides giving experts an opportunity
to show-off to novices.  I think it's bad design with no good reason.  If the
objective is to scratch the temp DS immediately after the last step that
refers to it, there are cleverer ways to do that.  Should be RFE fodder
regardless of the simple but not universally known circumvention.

-- gil

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Re: SDSF DA display in z/OS 2.3

[Frank Swarbrick]

That did the trick, Peter.  Thanks!

From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
Peter Hunkeler 
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 4:32 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: AW: Re: SDSF DA display in z/OS 2.3


>Interesting!  Though I'm not sure I'm getting that exact behavior.  I can 
>place my cursor on the JOBNAME and then press enter, and it will behave as if 
>I had placed ? in the NP field and pressed enter.  But I can't tab to the job 
>name.  It bypasses it and goes to the Ptry column.




Have a look at your ISPF (not SDSF) settings (Option 0 from the POM). There is 
s setting called "Tab to point-and-shoot fields". Is that enabled (has it a 
"/") in front of it? I'm not on z/OS V2.3 yet, so I cannot test.


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Re: HCM

[Jorge Garcia]

Hi Vignesh, 

 It's not a free versión. You must include this entry in IFAPRDxx parmlib 
member and you have to paid to IBM. The install package is available in 
SYS1.SEEQINST(EEQINSTM)

Regards 

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