Re: Discussion about IBM SW Excel withdrawal
On 10/15/2018 10:54 AM, Tony Harminc wrote: The discussion is under the subject line "SoftwareXcel Discontinued", and it was started by Ed Jaffe on 2017-09-07 (just over a year ago). The latest information I have on this subject is reported in the St. Louis Bit Bucket. https://share.confex.com/data/handout/share/131/Session_23506_handout_12018_0.pdf -- Phoenix Software International Edward E. Jaffe 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 https://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ This e-mail message, including any attachments, appended messages and the information contained therein, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient or have otherwise received this email message in error, any use, dissemination, distribution, review, storage or copying of this e-mail message and the information contained therein is strictly prohibited. If you are not an intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of this email message and do not otherwise utilize or retain this email message or any or all of the information contained therein. Although this email message and any attachments or appended messages are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by the sender for any loss or damage arising in any way from its opening or use. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: CPU ID display incorrect?
On 10/15/2018 12:19 AM, Martin Packer wrote: Now, an interesting (to me) question is whether the 4-character version is unique. I've always assumed they are not *guaranteed* unique, but in practice they seem to be. Serial numbers are so sparse that we see customers *routinely* upgrade from one CPU type to another *without* changing the serial number! It would be good problem for the mainframe community to have more than 64K physical mainframes of any given type running in the world simultaneously. FWIW, we check only the last four hex digits of the serial number in our licensing routines... -- Phoenix Software International Edward E. Jaffe 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 https://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ This e-mail message, including any attachments, appended messages and the information contained therein, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient or have otherwise received this email message in error, any use, dissemination, distribution, review, storage or copying of this e-mail message and the information contained therein is strictly prohibited. If you are not an intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of this email message and do not otherwise utilize or retain this email message or any or all of the information contained therein. Although this email message and any attachments or appended messages are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by the sender for any loss or damage arising in any way from its opening or use. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Discussion about IBM SW Excel withdrawal
There was also an email from Ed Jaffe on 08/23/2018 to this list that contained links to several St. Louis SHARE presentations that he was a part of. The Bit Bucket x'38' presentation discusses this subject and provides several alternatives!! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Dana Mitchell Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 2:26 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Discussion about IBM SW Excel withdrawal Yes, that was it, thank you sir! I sure wouldn't have guessed it was over a year ago. "Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana" Dana On Mon, 15 Oct 2018 13:54:06 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: >The discussion is under the subject line "SoftwareXcel Discontinued", >and it was started by Ed Jaffe on 2017-09-07 (just over a year ago). > >Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Small and useful CLIST - error
Hi Folks, Just a handy thing (in one place) that can make life easier. I wrote it as a CLIST to keep it really simple: It is called LASTT (you can name it more appropriately, e.g. TIMES) PROC 0 LOGTIME /* CBT FILE 133 */ LASTIPL /* CBT FILE 300 */ LASTCLPA /* CBT FILE 133 */ And its output looks like: LOGON TIME WAS ON MONDAY OCTOBER 15, 2018 (18.288) AT 15:18:55 LAST IPL WAS ON MONDAY OCTOBER 15, 2018 (2018.288) AT 14.39 LAST CLPA WAS ON MONDAY OCTOBER 15, 2018 (18.288) AT 14:39:27 This info (sometimes) is a good thing to know. Hope it helps in the daily work. All the best Sam -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: CPU ID display incorrect?
It's SOP for vendors who issue CPU-based keys to require notification of upcoming hardware changes in order to generate new keys. One particular vendor demands to see the results of 'D M=CPU' for *every individual LPAR* on a box. I can't tell you how supremely irritating this is. For a typical push-pull installation, we can't even IPL all (or often any) LPARs on a new box until Big Bang day when everything has to work ASAP. At that point the product in question will not run at all. (This one has no grace period.) Furthermore, on our DR box, most LPARs do not run at all except during DR tests. Again, the product will not work at all until we play the vendor's key game. Advice to vendors: if you force your customer to manage without your product for some time, you run the risk of demonstrating how to manage without it forever. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Martin Packer Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 12:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: CPU ID display incorrect? BTW "84" is Singapore, FWIW. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer zChampion, Systems Investigator & Performance Troubleshooter, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Blog: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker Podcast Series (With Marna Walle): https://developer.ibm.com/tv/mpt/or https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/mainframe-performance-topics/id1127943573?mt=2 Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu_65HaYgksbF6Q8SQ4oOvA From: Elardus Engelbrecht To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 15/10/2018 13:46 Subject:Re: CPU ID display incorrect? Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List Tony Thigpen wrote: >Ok, I was not thinking clearly yesterday. Nevermind, Sunday is supposed to be a day to rest, go to church and enjoy your few precious times with your family, but we z/Os support don't have that luxury, we must respond within 3.5 nanoseconds once a problem appears no matter the time/date/urgency/impact ... ;-) >My 'well seasoned' z/OS systems programmer was having a FIT because he thought someone had sent the vendor the wrong CPU-ID for an expiring product (VTAM-Switch) that was scheduled for a key installation this weekend. He is two timezones away and was telling me that I can't be reading the sticker on the frame correctly because of what the D M=CPU was showing. Aw, cr*p! He is insulting you and wasting your precious time! >The thing is, he did not even try the new key before he started the fussing. He just looked at the vendor's email (which included the real CPUID), looked at the D M=CPU and started an email war. It escalated before I had a chance to even think about the LPAR id. Did I told you that he is insulting you in a royal way? In fact, always ensure what your vendor (and your 'seasoned' programmer) has, is EXACTLY the same what you read. But never mind, I totally ignored that part of VTAM-Print, because I am 101% unfamiliar with that thing. You said: "Additionally, VTAM-Print says: (GSMINITL) THIS CPU: 758C7" That number is not near that number you posted ... A58C7 From my Sub-Capacity Report, I always compare that these 2 lines Machine Serial Number 84-? <5 numbers> Machine Type and Model -??? <4 numbers-3 numbers> ... match with this from D M=CPU, where I see this: CPC ND = 00.???.IBM.84.000? (That is where your A58C7 sit) and also the same with CPC SI. Please kick that 'well seasoned' z/OS systems programmer where the sun is not shining and show him the door. Thanks for your clarification anyways. ;-) Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Small and useful CLIST
Hi Folks, Just a handy thing (in one place) that can make life easier. I wrote it as a CLIST to keep it really simple: It is called LASTT (you can name it more appropriately, e.g. TIMES) PROC 0 LOGTIME /* CBT FILE 133 */ LASTIPL /* CBT FILE 300 */ LASTCLPA /* CBT FILE 133 */ And its output looks like: -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: CPU ID display incorrect?
BTW "84" is Singapore, FWIW. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer zChampion, Systems Investigator & Performance Troubleshooter, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Blog: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker Podcast Series (With Marna Walle): https://developer.ibm.com/tv/mpt/or https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/mainframe-performance-topics/id1127943573?mt=2 Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu_65HaYgksbF6Q8SQ4oOvA From: Elardus Engelbrecht To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 15/10/2018 13:46 Subject:Re: CPU ID display incorrect? Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List Tony Thigpen wrote: >Ok, I was not thinking clearly yesterday. Nevermind, Sunday is supposed to be a day to rest, go to church and enjoy your few precious times with your family, but we z/Os support don't have that luxury, we must respond within 3.5 nanoseconds once a problem appears no matter the time/date/urgency/impact ... ;-) >My 'well seasoned' z/OS systems programmer was having a FIT because he thought someone had sent the vendor the wrong CPU-ID for an expiring product (VTAM-Switch) that was scheduled for a key installation this weekend. He is two timezones away and was telling me that I can't be reading the sticker on the frame correctly because of what the D M=CPU was showing. Aw, cr*p! He is insulting you and wasting your precious time! >The thing is, he did not even try the new key before he started the fussing. He just looked at the vendor's email (which included the real CPUID), looked at the D M=CPU and started an email war. It escalated before I had a chance to even think about the LPAR id. Did I told you that he is insulting you in a royal way? In fact, always ensure what your vendor (and your 'seasoned' programmer) has, is EXACTLY the same what you read. But never mind, I totally ignored that part of VTAM-Print, because I am 101% unfamiliar with that thing. You said: "Additionally, VTAM-Print says: (GSMINITL) THIS CPU: 758C7" That number is not near that number you posted ... A58C7 >From my Sub-Capacity Report, I always compare that these 2 lines Machine Serial Number 84-? <5 numbers> Machine Type and Model -??? <4 numbers-3 numbers> ... match with this from D M=CPU, where I see this: CPC ND = 00.???.IBM.84.000? (That is where your A58C7 sit) and also the same with CPC SI. Please kick that 'well seasoned' z/OS systems programmer where the sun is not shining and show him the door. Thanks for your clarification anyways. ;-) Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: What! Mainframers hate mainframes??
I was immediately struck by this statement: '[T]hey surveyed 500 IT decision makers...' So who among the members of this forum would count him/herself as an 'IT decision maker'? I may get to toss in my two cents on hardware choices--how much memory on the Z box, say--but the crucial highest level decisions like future architecture are made entirely by folks with zero mainframe experience or--maybe even worse--a long ago stint as a console jockey. How about asking real techies in 500 IT organizations how much they fantasize about escaping the grip of Microsoft? . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Schuffenhauer, Mark Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 11:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Fwd: What! Mainframers hate mainframes?? "Okay what are the desired results? I will get you a survey to show that as long as no one looks past the headline." -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Smith, Nathan (ATLANTA, GA) Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 12:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Fwd: What! Mainframers hate mainframes?? "Lies, damned lies, and statistics." Anthem, Inc. Nathan A. Smith, Database Administrator Sr., Anthem Database Services 600 Peachtree St. NE, Mail Drop GA1319-A154, Atlanta, GA 30308 O: (770) 519-6496 | M: (770) 519-6496 nathanael.sm...@anthem.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 11:59 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Fwd: What! Mainframers hate mainframes?? 94% I doubt that you could get 94% to agree that the Sun rises in the East and sets in the West? When the ratio gets that large, I start suspecting that the numbers were made of the whole cloth. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of R.S. Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 9:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Subject: Re: Fwd: What! Mainframers hate mainframes?? LzLabs and Microsoft told us about mainframes. It's like wolf telling stories about sheep. Absolutely unbiased. BTW: I bet I can find in every mainframe shop at least one person who don't like mainframes. It's only matter of money and questions asked. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Dovetailed’s TOMCAT - How to disable methods
Sorry, I didn't see that you posted a question on the Community forum. On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 11:50 AM Michael Babcock wrote: > I did post a question on the community forum and I’ve searched but I’m not > finding an answer. I’ll find one of the Tomcat forums. > > On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 11:32 AM Kirk Wolf > wrote: > > > Here is information on our Tomcat packages for z/OS: > > https://dovetail.com/products/tomcat.html > > > > Questions about the z/OS packaging should be directed to our Community > > Forum: > > http://community.dovetail.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=2 > > > > Your question is really a general Tomcat question. Best to use Google or > > one of the Tomcat user's groups for that. > > > > Kirk Wolf > > http://dovetail.com > > > > On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 6:54 AM Michael Babcock > > wrote: > > > > > List, > > > > > > Our vulnerability scanner is complaining about the Delete method (among > > > others) in DT’s Tomcat. How do I disable methods? I’m not finding > much > > > in the doc. > > > > > > -- > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > > > -- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Discussion about IBM SW Excel withdrawal
Yes, that was it, thank you sir! I sure wouldn't have guessed it was over a year ago. "Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana" Dana On Mon, 15 Oct 2018 13:54:06 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: >The discussion is under the subject line "SoftwareXcel Discontinued", >and it was started by Ed Jaffe on 2017-09-07 (just over a year ago). > >Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Fwd: What! Mainframers hate mainframes??
"Okay what are the desired results? I will get you a survey to show that as long as no one looks past the headline." -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Smith, Nathan (ATLANTA, GA) Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 12:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Fwd: What! Mainframers hate mainframes?? "Lies, damned lies, and statistics." Anthem, Inc. Nathan A. Smith, Database Administrator Sr., Anthem Database Services 600 Peachtree St. NE, Mail Drop GA1319-A154, Atlanta, GA 30308 O: (770) 519-6496 | M: (770) 519-6496 nathanael.sm...@anthem.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 11:59 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Fwd: What! Mainframers hate mainframes?? 94% I doubt that you could get 94% to agree that the Sun rises in the East and sets in the West? When the ratio gets that large, I start suspecting that the numbers were made of the whole cloth. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__mason.gmu.edu_-7Esmetz3&d=DwIFBA&c=A-GX6P9ovB1qTBp7iQve2Q&r=mtZm8CZtpFemw8Y7pVAm7XaxI88ST87pIQqw9UhH8Ng&m=TM7Owk9YFx7IFVnWBvhiRHAuQ2gWGuzGX7J_XtqewrI&s=_74tX4GcpUlpx1o857w8MyZddcleDd0MfVBukVz4Rh0&e= From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of R.S. Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 9:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Subject: Re: Fwd: What! Mainframers hate mainframes?? W dniu 2018-10-14 o 18:33, Mark Regan pisze: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__secure-2Dweb.cisc > o.com_1LKgJD73y7aj2YL-5FBMEW8UxeOr1a-5FrHZnlgnulH4At-5FHZoVlppzP9e-2Dg > ekUmCMzblMqf72LKwVMjrBaFqTO6iWUDiI61v0zTFpW-2DuKDjIgv6UeJCudVhYqd7zWoR > MCj-5FD8JfPFxi4Y98vfPtpBPiIo71SG6gkWGmTqlGt8T2ZFjn65zu0B3x5YforQBDe5e7 > 4XRrjrUn5MJah-2DqHNvGyrjyU12ZitvM91tVOJIsDUQsbeXmnKKyhf9LIqu41-2Dnr2xd > 9LUuO-2D-5FnbY-2DWujthEXbaGvo2gNaPdJSImDUYlNGDBupd9LrZZFYpJcJOMmwvEtvw > 1kZN1Xwq879DZjZQBaNjY6Eq2jwaSnCNe4nqiENZhUzHP-5FR99cb7uRHN4jY85fAiLwLq > 20Dfwb-2DKzDWJqBuJULAMF-2D27MCW0yFnleT3ZMAXCWKfJOU9FWY0eei9DxUi3qp5cD- > 2DE8lRZN4F8NnDPOg_https-253A-252F-252Fit.toolbox.com-252Fblogs-252Ftre > voreddolls-252Fwhat-2Dmainframers-2Dhate-2Dmainframes-2D101418&d=DwIFB > A&c=A-GX6P9ovB1qTBp7iQve2Q&r=mtZm8CZtpFemw8Y7pVAm7XaxI88ST87pIQqw9UhH8 > Ng&m=TM7Owk9YFx7IFVnWBvhiRHAuQ2gWGuzGX7J_XtqewrI&s=zqtYJsTMGIZwEDNQYyO > 4krO9vqskqbP_ywbZ3iRDoPo&e= LzLabs and Microsoft told us about mainframes. It's like wolf telling stories about sheep. Absolutely unbiased. BTW: I bet I can find in every mainframe shop at least one person who don't like mainframes. It's only matter of money and questions asked. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland == Jeśli nie jesteś adresatem tej wiadomości: - powiadom nas o tym w mailu zwrotnym (dziękujemy!), - usuń trwale tę wiadomość (i wszystkie kopie, które wydrukowałeś lub zapisałeś na dysku). Wiadomość ta może zawierać chronione prawem informacje, które może wykorzystać tylko adresat.Przypominamy, że każdy, kto rozpowszechnia (kopiuje, rozprowadza) tę wiadomość lub podejmuje podobne działania, narusza prawo i może podlegać karze. mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__secure-2Dweb.cisco.com_1rLMXHN7CWnLnVranETwIbFV17kKv-5FXYSFTwjLRBrJrbWlOVKRfMEBT4urZsDRdEM-5F2mGZ8NjhFqWJ8K-5FTZqQ0GQGCFFRgOUeHrL9Tkox5IWnUsVR365W0PjhorUfX2-5FoqA850HoaJU6r7JKJSoIxFBoiTwk5kSL3jbN581ivbBKVXYnvhgWifS7fMhQvE0N3BEwl8XqIoqrv00GZ2611Qjc0OYCqHZEoBrCoxxnCBNxKIc1G9SFwdOOxty4bJMf-2DPIKHgtcK51LewturPB-5FBgfGIpFv8pp-5FJLC74HrJA6GwVD0xxe2uJYhjvpzhH9fWE8ikAZAqoLYrbuGtXcNRWu4B-2Dv62j9pUVA1VJbsQ0v78O377uIq6F9R7O7EZyw9ZcHzND22hvwEoNTbwrjbskYLzlDRS-2DnFJtXJF4eHjDnlxdQbfoOTgn83xns462XVrc_http-253A-252F-252Fwww.mBank.pl&d=DwIFBA&c=A-GX6P9ovB1qTBp7iQve2Q&r=mtZm8CZtpFemw8Y7pVAm7XaxI88ST87pIQqw9UhH8Ng&m=TM7Owk9YFx7IFVnWBvhiRHAuQ2gWGuzGX7J_XtqewrI&s=M4j3_dlQVgDSYRRJlA38KFqJFVbMI7Ikv4UPLsQdX5I&e=, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Kapitał zakładowy (opłacony w całości) według stanu na 01.01.2018 r. wynosi 169.248.488 złotych. If you are not the addressee of this message: - let us know by replying to this e-mail (thank you!), - delete this message permanently (including all the copies which you have printed out or saved). This message may contain legally protected information, which may be used exclusively by the addressee.Please be reminded that anyone who disseminates (copies, distributes) this message or takes any similar action, violates the law and may be penalised. mBank S.A. with its registered office in Warsaw, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__secure-2Dweb.cisco.com_1rLMX
Re: Discussion about IBM SW Excel withdrawal
On Mon, 15 Oct 2018 12:39:06 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: > >H, I faintly remember something like that, but not this phrase "SW EXCEL", > On: https://www-01.ibm.com/software/support/offerings.html ... some mention of ... https://www-01.ibm.com/software/support/offerings.html#SoftwareXcel_Enterprise_Edition >... but Question (After strangling/shaking Uncle G. O. Ogle): > >Are you thinking of "Software withdrawal: IBM Cognos Analysis for Microsoft >Excel, TM1, Express, Insight and Performance Management Suite - Some >replacements available" in this URL > >http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/6/899/ENUSLP17-0126/index.html&request_locale=en -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Discussion about IBM SW Excel withdrawal
The discussion is under the subject line "SoftwareXcel Discontinued", and it was started by Ed Jaffe on 2017-09-07 (just over a year ago). Tony H. On 15 October 2018 at 13:49, Dana Mitchell wrote: > On Mon, 15 Oct 2018 12:39:06 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht > wrote: >> >>H, I faintly remember something like that, but not this phrase "SW EXCEL", >> > > I don't remember if it was exactly SW EXCEL was mentioned, but it was > basically the functions that used to be referred collectively to as IBMLINK. > The discussion on IBM-MAIN covered the fact that you don't need extra cost > services to open PMRs (SR's) www.ibm.com/support and there was also a > reference to the granular APAR search that used to be under IBMLINK AST > (iirc). > > Dana > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Discussion about IBM SW Excel withdrawal
On Mon, 15 Oct 2018 12:39:06 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: > >H, I faintly remember something like that, but not this phrase "SW EXCEL", > I don't remember if it was exactly SW EXCEL was mentioned, but it was basically the functions that used to be referred collectively to as IBMLINK. The discussion on IBM-MAIN covered the fact that you don't need extra cost services to open PMRs (SR's) www.ibm.com/support and there was also a reference to the granular APAR search that used to be under IBMLINK AST (iirc). Dana -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Discussion about IBM SW Excel withdrawal
Dana Mitchell wrote: >I seem to remember a recent IBM-MAIN discussion about IBM withdrawal of SW >EXCEL or some portion thereof, and alternatives for the different services >such as APAR search. I can't find either the IBM-MAIN discussion or the IBM >announcement that started it all. My boss asked about our budget amount for >SW EXCEL and I'm trying to follow up, but I seem to be search impaired today. > Much obliged if anyone can point me to either one or both of the above items. H, I faintly remember something like that, but not this phrase "SW EXCEL", ... but Question (After strangling/shaking Uncle G. O. Ogle): Are you thinking of "Software withdrawal: IBM Cognos Analysis for Microsoft Excel, TM1, Express, Insight and Performance Management Suite - Some replacements available" in this URL http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/6/899/ENUSLP17-0126/index.html&request_locale=en (watch that wrrrap!) (one program number about that Cognos Excel is 5724-W22) ... or (somewhat older), "Software withdrawal: IBM zEnterprise BladeCenter Extension selected part numbers" in this URL http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/printableversion.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/0/877/ENUSZP16-0090/index.html&request_locale=en ? (end question) Disclaimer: I never ever worked with these things at all. Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Fwd: What! Mainframers hate mainframes??
"Lies, damned lies, and statistics." Anthem, Inc. Nathan A. Smith, Database Administrator Sr., Anthem Database Services 600 Peachtree St. NE, Mail Drop GA1319-A154, Atlanta, GA 30308 O: (770) 519-6496 | M: (770) 519-6496 nathanael.sm...@anthem.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 11:59 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Fwd: What! Mainframers hate mainframes?? 94% I doubt that you could get 94% to agree that the Sun rises in the East and sets in the West? When the ratio gets that large, I start suspecting that the numbers were made of the whole cloth. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__mason.gmu.edu_-7Esmetz3&d=DwIFBA&c=A-GX6P9ovB1qTBp7iQve2Q&r=mtZm8CZtpFemw8Y7pVAm7XaxI88ST87pIQqw9UhH8Ng&m=TM7Owk9YFx7IFVnWBvhiRHAuQ2gWGuzGX7J_XtqewrI&s=_74tX4GcpUlpx1o857w8MyZddcleDd0MfVBukVz4Rh0&e= From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of R.S. Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 9:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Subject: Re: Fwd: What! Mainframers hate mainframes?? W dniu 2018-10-14 o 18:33, Mark Regan pisze: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__secure-2Dweb.cisc > o.com_1LKgJD73y7aj2YL-5FBMEW8UxeOr1a-5FrHZnlgnulH4At-5FHZoVlppzP9e-2Dg > ekUmCMzblMqf72LKwVMjrBaFqTO6iWUDiI61v0zTFpW-2DuKDjIgv6UeJCudVhYqd7zWoR > MCj-5FD8JfPFxi4Y98vfPtpBPiIo71SG6gkWGmTqlGt8T2ZFjn65zu0B3x5YforQBDe5e7 > 4XRrjrUn5MJah-2DqHNvGyrjyU12ZitvM91tVOJIsDUQsbeXmnKKyhf9LIqu41-2Dnr2xd > 9LUuO-2D-5FnbY-2DWujthEXbaGvo2gNaPdJSImDUYlNGDBupd9LrZZFYpJcJOMmwvEtvw > 1kZN1Xwq879DZjZQBaNjY6Eq2jwaSnCNe4nqiENZhUzHP-5FR99cb7uRHN4jY85fAiLwLq > 20Dfwb-2DKzDWJqBuJULAMF-2D27MCW0yFnleT3ZMAXCWKfJOU9FWY0eei9DxUi3qp5cD- > 2DE8lRZN4F8NnDPOg_https-253A-252F-252Fit.toolbox.com-252Fblogs-252Ftre > voreddolls-252Fwhat-2Dmainframers-2Dhate-2Dmainframes-2D101418&d=DwIFB > A&c=A-GX6P9ovB1qTBp7iQve2Q&r=mtZm8CZtpFemw8Y7pVAm7XaxI88ST87pIQqw9UhH8 > Ng&m=TM7Owk9YFx7IFVnWBvhiRHAuQ2gWGuzGX7J_XtqewrI&s=zqtYJsTMGIZwEDNQYyO > 4krO9vqskqbP_ywbZ3iRDoPo&e= LzLabs and Microsoft told us about mainframes. It's like wolf telling stories about sheep. Absolutely unbiased. BTW: I bet I can find in every mainframe shop at least one person who don't like mainframes. It's only matter of money and questions asked. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland == Jeśli nie jesteś adresatem tej wiadomości: - powiadom nas o tym w mailu zwrotnym (dziękujemy!), - usuń trwale tę wiadomość (i wszystkie kopie, które wydrukowałeś lub zapisałeś na dysku). Wiadomość ta może zawierać chronione prawem informacje, które może wykorzystać tylko adresat.Przypominamy, że każdy, kto rozpowszechnia (kopiuje, rozprowadza) tę wiadomość lub podejmuje podobne działania, narusza prawo i może podlegać karze. mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__secure-2Dweb.cisco.com_1rLMXHN7CWnLnVranETwIbFV17kKv-5FXYSFTwjLRBrJrbWlOVKRfMEBT4urZsDRdEM-5F2mGZ8NjhFqWJ8K-5FTZqQ0GQGCFFRgOUeHrL9Tkox5IWnUsVR365W0PjhorUfX2-5FoqA850HoaJU6r7JKJSoIxFBoiTwk5kSL3jbN581ivbBKVXYnvhgWifS7fMhQvE0N3BEwl8XqIoqrv00GZ2611Qjc0OYCqHZEoBrCoxxnCBNxKIc1G9SFwdOOxty4bJMf-2DPIKHgtcK51LewturPB-5FBgfGIpFv8pp-5FJLC74HrJA6GwVD0xxe2uJYhjvpzhH9fWE8ikAZAqoLYrbuGtXcNRWu4B-2Dv62j9pUVA1VJbsQ0v78O377uIq6F9R7O7EZyw9ZcHzND22hvwEoNTbwrjbskYLzlDRS-2DnFJtXJF4eHjDnlxdQbfoOTgn83xns462XVrc_http-253A-252F-252Fwww.mBank.pl&d=DwIFBA&c=A-GX6P9ovB1qTBp7iQve2Q&r=mtZm8CZtpFemw8Y7pVAm7XaxI88ST87pIQqw9UhH8Ng&m=TM7Owk9YFx7IFVnWBvhiRHAuQ2gWGuzGX7J_XtqewrI&s=M4j3_dlQVgDSYRRJlA38KFqJFVbMI7Ikv4UPLsQdX5I&e=, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Kapitał zakładowy (opłacony w całości) według stanu na 01.01.2018 r. wynosi 169.248.488 złotych. If you are not the addressee of this message: - let us know by replying to this e-mail (thank you!), - delete this message permanently (including all the copies which you have printed out or saved). This message may contain legally protected information, which may be used exclusively by the addressee.Please be reminded that anyone who disseminates (copies, distributes) this message or takes any similar action, violates the law and may be penalised. mBank S.A. with its registered office in Warsaw, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__secure-2Dweb.cisco.com_1rLMXHN7CWnLnVranETwIbFV17kKv-5FXYSFTwjLRBrJrbWlOVKRfMEBT4urZsDRdEM-5F2mGZ8NjhFqWJ8K-5FTZqQ0GQGCFFRgOUeHrL9Tkox5IWnUsVR365W0PjhorUfX2-5FoqA850HoaJU6r7JKJSoIxFBoiTwk5kSL3jbN581ivbBKVXYnvhgWifS7fMhQvE0N3BEwl8XqIoqrv00GZ2611Qjc0OYCqHZEoBrCoxxnCBNxKIc1G9SFwdOOxty4bJMf-2DPIKHgtcK51LewturPB-5FBgfGIpFv8pp-5FJLC74HrJA6GwVD0xxe2uJYhjvpzhH9fWE8ikAZAqoLYrbuGtXcNRW
Re: What! Mainframers hate mainframes??
Indeed, as others have noted (and Eddols did in his conclusion), this is pretty clearly specious in that the premise ("mainframers hate mainframes") is not supported by the survey, because the report misrepresents the surveyed population as "mainframers". If we look at the bullets dispassionately: *94 percent would consider moving off the mainframe Anyone who would not CONSIDER moving off the mainframe is incompetent. Consideration does not imply action. There are plenty of uses cases where z makes no sense, of course. *77 percent say their organization should have already started the mainframe migration/modernization process to avoid being at risk Undefined. Migration from 9672 to z14? Sure. "Modernization" as in "moving off"? Maybe. But as written, meaningless. *71 percent say that the inflexibility of their mainframe limits the ability of the IT department to innovate *shrug* "You say that like it's a negative thing". "Innovation" is not unequivocally a good thing. *81 percent are concerned by the potential skills gap between their organization's mainframe teams Gibberish. Between the mainframe teams and what?? *50 percent say that IBM is more focused on Watson and cloud technologies than the mainframe Well, yeah. So? If you replace "mainframe" with "insurance" you can make many of the same arguments. But I don't see most people dropping insurance. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Dovetailed’s TOMCAT - How to disable methods
I did post a question on the community forum and I’ve searched but I’m not finding an answer. I’ll find one of the Tomcat forums. On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 11:32 AM Kirk Wolf wrote: > Here is information on our Tomcat packages for z/OS: > https://dovetail.com/products/tomcat.html > > Questions about the z/OS packaging should be directed to our Community > Forum: > http://community.dovetail.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=2 > > Your question is really a general Tomcat question. Best to use Google or > one of the Tomcat user's groups for that. > > Kirk Wolf > http://dovetail.com > > On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 6:54 AM Michael Babcock > wrote: > > > List, > > > > Our vulnerability scanner is complaining about the Delete method (among > > others) in DT’s Tomcat. How do I disable methods? I’m not finding much > > in the doc. > > > > -- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Dovetailed’s TOMCAT - How to disable methods
Here is information on our Tomcat packages for z/OS: https://dovetail.com/products/tomcat.html Questions about the z/OS packaging should be directed to our Community Forum: http://community.dovetail.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=2 Your question is really a general Tomcat question. Best to use Google or one of the Tomcat user's groups for that. Kirk Wolf http://dovetail.com On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 6:54 AM Michael Babcock wrote: > List, > > Our vulnerability scanner is complaining about the Delete method (among > others) in DT’s Tomcat. How do I disable methods? I’m not finding much > in the doc. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Discussion about IBM SW Excel withdrawal
I seem to remember a recent IBM-MAIN discussion about IBM withdrawal of SW EXCEL or some portion thereof, and alternatives for the different services such as APAR search. I can't find either the IBM-MAIN discussion or the IBM announcement that started it all. My boss asked about our budget amount for SW EXCEL and I'm trying to follow up, but I seem to be search impaired today. Much obliged if anyone can point me to either one or both of the above items. Thanks Dana -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Fwd: What! Mainframers hate mainframes??
94% I doubt that you could get 94% to agree that the Sun rises in the East and sets in the West? When the ratio gets that large, I start suspecting that the numbers were made of the whole cloth. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of R.S. Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 9:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Subject: Re: Fwd: What! Mainframers hate mainframes?? W dniu 2018-10-14 o 18:33, Mark Regan pisze: > https://secure-web.cisco.com/1LKgJD73y7aj2YL_BMEW8UxeOr1a_rHZnlgnulH4At_HZoVlppzP9e-gekUmCMzblMqf72LKwVMjrBaFqTO6iWUDiI61v0zTFpW-uKDjIgv6UeJCudVhYqd7zWoRMCj_D8JfPFxi4Y98vfPtpBPiIo71SG6gkWGmTqlGt8T2ZFjn65zu0B3x5YforQBDe5e74XRrjrUn5MJah-qHNvGyrjyU12ZitvM91tVOJIsDUQsbeXmnKKyhf9LIqu41-nr2xd9LUuO-_nbY-WujthEXbaGvo2gNaPdJSImDUYlNGDBupd9LrZZFYpJcJOMmwvEtvw1kZN1Xwq879DZjZQBaNjY6Eq2jwaSnCNe4nqiENZhUzHP_R99cb7uRHN4jY85fAiLwLq20Dfwb-KzDWJqBuJULAMF-27MCW0yFnleT3ZMAXCWKfJOU9FWY0eei9DxUi3qp5cD-E8lRZN4F8NnDPOg/https%3A%2F%2Fit.toolbox.com%2Fblogs%2Ftrevoreddolls%2Fwhat-mainframers-hate-mainframes-101418 LzLabs and Microsoft told us about mainframes. It's like wolf telling stories about sheep. Absolutely unbiased. BTW: I bet I can find in every mainframe shop at least one person who don't like mainframes. It's only matter of money and questions asked. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland == Jeśli nie jesteś adresatem tej wiadomości: - powiadom nas o tym w mailu zwrotnym (dziękujemy!), - usuń trwale tę wiadomość (i wszystkie kopie, które wydrukowałeś lub zapisałeś na dysku). Wiadomość ta może zawierać chronione prawem informacje, które może wykorzystać tylko adresat.Przypominamy, że każdy, kto rozpowszechnia (kopiuje, rozprowadza) tę wiadomość lub podejmuje podobne działania, narusza prawo i może podlegać karze. mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,http://secure-web.cisco.com/1rLMXHN7CWnLnVranETwIbFV17kKv_XYSFTwjLRBrJrbWlOVKRfMEBT4urZsDRdEM_2mGZ8NjhFqWJ8K_TZqQ0GQGCFFRgOUeHrL9Tkox5IWnUsVR365W0PjhorUfX2_oqA850HoaJU6r7JKJSoIxFBoiTwk5kSL3jbN581ivbBKVXYnvhgWifS7fMhQvE0N3BEwl8XqIoqrv00GZ2611Qjc0OYCqHZEoBrCoxxnCBNxKIc1G9SFwdOOxty4bJMf-PIKHgtcK51LewturPB_BgfGIpFv8pp_JLC74HrJA6GwVD0xxe2uJYhjvpzhH9fWE8ikAZAqoLYrbuGtXcNRWu4B-v62j9pUVA1VJbsQ0v78O377uIq6F9R7O7EZyw9ZcHzND22hvwEoNTbwrjbskYLzlDRS-nFJtXJF4eHjDnlxdQbfoOTgn83xns462XVrc/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Kapitał zakładowy (opłacony w całości) według stanu na 01.01.2018 r. wynosi 169.248.488 złotych. If you are not the addressee of this message: - let us know by replying to this e-mail (thank you!), - delete this message permanently (including all the copies which you have printed out or saved). This message may contain legally protected information, which may be used exclusively by the addressee.Please be reminded that anyone who disseminates (copies, distributes) this message or takes any similar action, violates the law and may be penalised. mBank S.A. with its registered office in Warsaw, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,http://secure-web.cisco.com/1rLMXHN7CWnLnVranETwIbFV17kKv_XYSFTwjLRBrJrbWlOVKRfMEBT4urZsDRdEM_2mGZ8NjhFqWJ8K_TZqQ0GQGCFFRgOUeHrL9Tkox5IWnUsVR365W0PjhorUfX2_oqA850HoaJU6r7JKJSoIxFBoiTwk5kSL3jbN581ivbBKVXYnvhgWifS7fMhQvE0N3BEwl8XqIoqrv00GZ2611Qjc0OYCqHZEoBrCoxxnCBNxKIc1G9SFwdOOxty4bJMf-PIKHgtcK51LewturPB_BgfGIpFv8pp_JLC74HrJA6GwVD0xxe2uJYhjvpzhH9fWE8ikAZAqoLYrbuGtXcNRWu4B-v62j9pUVA1VJbsQ0v78O377uIq6F9R7O7EZyw9ZcHzND22hvwEoNTbwrjbskYLzlDRS-nFJtXJF4eHjDnlxdQbfoOTgn83xns462XVrc/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. District Court for the Capital City of Warsaw, 12th Commercial Division of the National Court Register, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Fully paid-up share capital amounting to PLN 169,248,488 as at 1 January 2018. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Fwd: What! Mainframers hate mainframes??
W dniu 2018-10-14 o 18:33, Mark Regan pisze: https://it.toolbox.com/blogs/trevoreddolls/what-mainframers-hate-mainframes-101418 LzLabs and Microsoft told us about mainframes. It's like wolf telling stories about sheep. Absolutely unbiased. BTW: I bet I can find in every mainframe shop at least one person who don't like mainframes. It's only matter of money and questions asked. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland == Jeśli nie jesteś adresatem tej wiadomości: - powiadom nas o tym w mailu zwrotnym (dziękujemy!), - usuń trwale tę wiadomość (i wszystkie kopie, które wydrukowałeś lub zapisałeś na dysku). Wiadomość ta może zawierać chronione prawem informacje, które może wykorzystać tylko adresat.Przypominamy, że każdy, kto rozpowszechnia (kopiuje, rozprowadza) tę wiadomość lub podejmuje podobne działania, narusza prawo i może podlegać karze. mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Kapitał zakładowy (opłacony w całości) według stanu na 01.01.2018 r. wynosi 169.248.488 złotych. If you are not the addressee of this message: - let us know by replying to this e-mail (thank you!), - delete this message permanently (including all the copies which you have printed out or saved). This message may contain legally protected information, which may be used exclusively by the addressee.Please be reminded that anyone who disseminates (copies, distributes) this message or takes any similar action, violates the law and may be penalised. mBank S.A. with its registered office in Warsaw, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. District Court for the Capital City of Warsaw, 12th Commercial Division of the National Court Register, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Fully paid-up share capital amounting to PLN 169,248,488 as at 1 January 2018. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: CPU ID display incorrect?
Tony Thigpen wrote: >Ok, I was not thinking clearly yesterday. Nevermind, Sunday is supposed to be a day to rest, go to church and enjoy your few precious times with your family, but we z/Os support don't have that luxury, we must respond within 3.5 nanoseconds once a problem appears no matter the time/date/urgency/impact ... ;-) >My 'well seasoned' z/OS systems programmer was having a FIT because he thought >someone had sent the vendor the wrong CPU-ID for an expiring product >(VTAM-Switch) that was scheduled for a key installation this weekend. He is >two timezones away and was telling me that I can't be reading the sticker on >the frame correctly because of what the D M=CPU was showing. Aw, cr*p! He is insulting you and wasting your precious time! >The thing is, he did not even try the new key before he started the fussing. >He just looked at the vendor's email (which included the real CPUID), looked >at the D M=CPU and started an email war. It escalated before I had a chance to >even think about the LPAR id. Did I told you that he is insulting you in a royal way? In fact, always ensure what your vendor (and your 'seasoned' programmer) has, is EXACTLY the same what you read. But never mind, I totally ignored that part of VTAM-Print, because I am 101% unfamiliar with that thing. You said: "Additionally, VTAM-Print says: (GSMINITL) THIS CPU: 758C7" That number is not near that number you posted ... A58C7 From my Sub-Capacity Report, I always compare that these 2 lines Machine Serial Number 84-? <5 numbers> Machine Type and Model -??? <4 numbers-3 numbers> ... match with this from D M=CPU, where I see this: CPC ND = 00.???.IBM.84.000? (That is where your A58C7 sit) and also the same with CPC SI. Please kick that 'well seasoned' z/OS systems programmer where the sun is not shining and show him the door. Thanks for your clarification anyways. ;-) Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Dovetailed’s TOMCAT - How to disable methods
List, Our vulnerability scanner is complaining about the Delete method (among others) in DT’s Tomcat. How do I disable methods? I’m not finding much in the doc. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: CPU ID display incorrect?
Ok, I was not thinking clearly yesterday. My 'well seasoned' z/OS systems programmer was having a FIT because he thought someone had sent the vendor the wrong CPU-ID for an expiring product (VTAM-Switch) that was scheduled for a key installation this weekend. He is two timezones away and was telling me that I can't be reading the sticker on the frame correctly because of what the D M=CPU was showing. The thing is, he did not even try the new key before he started the fussing. He just looked at the vendor's email (which included the real CPUID), looked at the D M=CPU and started an email war. It escalated before I had a chance to even think about the LPAR id. Tony Thigpen Elardus Engelbrecht wrote on 10/15/18 2:35 AM: Tony Thigpen wrote: Why would the D M=CPU display a wrong number. What number? What is wrong? Perhaps something is wrong because you read/posted it on a Sunday? ;-) Running z/os 1.13 on a z12-BC. 17.13.21 HKYP d m=cpu 17.13.21 HKYP IEE174I 17.13.21 DISPLAY M 204 PROCESSOR STATUS ID CPU SERIAL 00 + 0758C72828 CPC ND = 002828.H06.IBM.84.000A58C7 CPC SI = 2828.A01.IBM.84.000A58C7 Model: H06 CPC ID = 00 CPC NAME = YUKON LP NAME = HKYPRODLP ID = 7 CSS ID = 0 MIF ID = 7 Looking Ok to me. Seems to me you have at least one CPU active. The physical CPU id stamped into the machine is "A58C7". The 'Edit Frame' in the SE says: Machine Type: 2828 Machine Model: H06 Serial Number: 0008400A58C7 It match with the D M=CPU output, unless I missed something. Did you upgraded concurrently your processor(s) to a new model? Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: CPU ID display incorrect?
Tell us what it says, please. :-) Seriously, if TFM fails to cover the ground adequately let us know. Thanks, Martin Sent from my iPad > On 15 Oct 2018, at 08:24, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: > > Martin Packer wrote: > >> It could be because the OP expects to see the 5-character version of the CPU ID. But, since the advent of PR/SM we’ve only ever had the 4-character version. > >> In SMF we show the 4-character in CPU Data Section in Type 70 but fuller versions - because I asked for them long ago :-) - in other places in 70 and also in 74-4. > >> Now, an interesting (to me) question is whether the 4-character version is unique. > > Interesting. I forgot about that. Many thanks! > > Time for me to do a boring RTFM on a blue Monday... ;-) > > Groete / Greetings > Elardus Engelbrecht > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: CPU ID display incorrect?
Martin Packer wrote: >It could be because the OP expects to see the 5-character version of the CPU >ID. But, since the advent of PR/SM we’ve only ever had the 4-character version. >In SMF we show the 4-character in CPU Data Section in Type 70 but fuller >versions - because I asked for them long ago :-) - in other places in 70 and >also in 74-4. >Now, an interesting (to me) question is whether the 4-character version is >unique. Interesting. I forgot about that. Many thanks! Time for me to do a boring RTFM on a blue Monday... ;-) Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: CPU ID display incorrect?
It could be because the OP expects to see the 5-character version of the CPU ID. But, since the advent of PR/SM we’ve only ever had the 4-character version. In SMF we show the 4-character in CPU Data Section in Type 70 but fuller versions - because I asked for them long ago :-) - in other places in 70 and also in 74-4. Now, an interesting (to me) question is whether the 4-character version is unique. Cheers, Martin Sent from my iPad > On 15 Oct 2018, at 07:35, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: > > Tony Thigpen wrote: > >> Why would the D M=CPU display a wrong number. > > What number? What is wrong? > > Perhaps something is wrong because you read/posted it on a Sunday? ;-) > > >> Running z/os 1.13 on a z12-BC. >> 17.13.21 HKYP d m=cpu >> 17.13.21 HKYP IEE174I 17.13.21 DISPLAY M 204 >> PROCESSOR STATUS >> ID CPU SERIAL >> 00 + 0758C72828 > >> CPC ND = 002828.H06.IBM.84.000A58C7 >> CPC SI = 2828.A01.IBM.84.000A58C7 >> Model: H06 >> CPC ID = 00 >> CPC NAME = YUKON >> LP NAME = HKYPRODLP ID = 7 >> CSS ID = 0 >> MIF ID = 7 > > Looking Ok to me. Seems to me you have at least one CPU active. > > >> The physical CPU id stamped into the machine is "A58C7". > >> The 'Edit Frame' in the SE says: >> Machine Type: 2828 >> Machine Model: H06 >> Serial Number: 0008400A58C7 > > It match with the D M=CPU output, unless I missed something. > > Did you upgraded concurrently your processor(s) to a new model? > > Groete / Greetings > Elardus Engelbrecht > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN