Re: FW: Concurrent Server Task Dispatch issue multitasking issue

[Brian Westerman]

One way to do it is when you set up your console interface and do the extract, 
you need to save the comm ECB address into a register and then save it into the 
ECB list (when you wait, i.e. WAIT 1,ECBLIST=youECBlistname,LONG=YES) you are 
using for your other waits (your normal timer ones).   You need to make sure 
that Then when you are posted it may be for a console communication or from one 
of your other timers, so you have to test to see why at that time.  You are 
then waiting on the list of ECBs (they can be posted by anything you set them 
up for) and no matter which one is posted, you will end up in the same code.  
Therefore you go back to that place all the time (within your standard code) 
and mostly you are just waiting for something to happen (or for a console 
interrupt for your task).  Just make sure you don't forget to wait (in the case 
of the sample below it's at WAITTIME) only.  Otherwise, you could end up never 
knowing when you get a console message.  You can have multiple waits in your 
program so long as they all use the same ECBLIST.  It can have more in it, mine 
just has the two ECBs in the sample. 

So it's something like this:

WAITTIME DS0H
 WAIT  1,ECBLIST=ECBLIST,LONG=YES  WAIT UNTIL AN ECB IS POSTED
 L R1,COMMECB ADDR OF COMMUNICATIONS ECB
 CLI   0(R1),X'00'CHECK FOR OPERATOR REQUEST
 BNE   OPERREQYES--GO TO PROCESS OPER REQ   
 CLI   TIMEECB,X'00'  DID THE TIMER POP ?   
 BNE   TIMERPOP   YES--GO PROCESS TIME REQUEST 
 B WAITTIME   HMMM.. DON'T KNOW, RETRY  

...
ECBLIST DS0F   
COMMECB  DCA(0) 
 DCX'80',AL3(TIMEECB) 

Brian

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Re: Crosshair cursor

[David Crayford]

On 3/01/2019 1:58 am, Seymour J Metz wrote:

Bah! I did 62x160 on a 17" plasma screen. Of course, these day I would not consider 
buying 17", 23" or even the larger screen I have now; I'd go for the biggest screen 
that had a reasonable price.



39" 4K TVs are cheap as chips these days. The bigger the better. The 
days of dual monitors are over.





FWIW, I usually used SPLIT and VSPLIT to chop up the screen, depending on what 
I was doing; I almost never ran with one big panel.


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On 2019-01-02 08:26, Styles, Andy , ITS zPlatform Services wrote:

On 2018-12-29 17:46, zMan wrote:

Does anybody here voluntarily use a crosshair cursor in your 3270
emulator?


It was the second change I made after installing Vista, setting up the cursor
to garish bright yellow cross-hairs. ;) (The first change? A 62 x 160
screen-size)

Classification: Public I also frequently use crosshairs (toggled by
SHIFT-HOME, which I think is something similar to the combination on the 3270
keyboard I used in the 80s). I switch crosshair on/off depending on what I'm
doing.

62 x 160 eh? Still using a small screen then? :-)

Only 23" full HD, and pretty bad eyesight, myopic (-6.5) and problems using
multifocal glasses.

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Re: Crosshair cursor

[Roger Bolan]

I almost never use it, but it's not a big deal.  On my emulator (PCOMM)
it's mapped to the ctrl-home key which toggles it on or off instantly as
needed.

On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 12:15 PM Seymour J Metz  wrote:

> What do you do when you can't see where the cursor is in order to move it
> where want it? Hitting home and then moving it back near where it was isn't
> nearly as nice as having the crosshairs. To say nothing of lining up text.
>
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Re: The Yoda of Silicon Valley - The New York Times

[Tony Harminc]

On Sun, 23 Dec 2018 at 09:47, Joel C. Ewing  wrote:

> And he has some unusual hobbies not mentioned in the NYT article:  How
> many people do you know that have a pipe organ designed for and built in
> their home?  https://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~knuth/organ.html

I seem vaguely to remember that our own Joyce Tomaselli (Dame Joyce
the Diligent) had one. Maybe it was her husband's?

Tony H.

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Re: Fwd: It's Official: Open-Plan Offices Are Now the Dumbest Management Fad of All Time | Inc.com

[Anne & Lynn Wheeler]

marktre...@gmail.com (Mark Regan) writes:
> For those of you who find yourselves in this type of working environment.
>
> https://www.inc.com/geoffrey-james/its-official-open-plan-offices-are-now-dumbest-management-fad-of-all-time.html
>
> Mark T. Regan, K8MTR
> CTO1, USNR-Retired
> 1969-1991

long ago and far away ... from "Real Programmers Don't Eat Quiche":

Real Programmers never work 9 to 5.  If any Real Programmers are
around at 9 AM, it's because they were up all night.

so can concentrate and avoid interruptions from co-workers and phone
calls.

older trivia: as undergraduate, about a year after taking two semester
hr intro to fortran/computers, I was hired fulltime to be responsible
for univ. academic and administration os/360 systems. The univ. shutdown
the datacenter from 8am sat. to 8am monday ... and I had the whole
datacenter dedicated to myself ... although 48hrs w/o sleep could make
monday morning classes a little hard.

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Re: It's Official: Open-Plan Offices Are Now the Dumbest Management Fad of All Time | Inc.com

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 19:02:32 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:

>You haven't lived until you have to talk to a vendor on the telephone while 
>surrounded by other conversations. To be fair, they don't appreciate your 
>reading out loud from the dump any more then you enjoy their chatter - which 
>might also be with vendor support groups.
> 
I sometimes sit in a café near any of several young apparent partners in
high-tech startups who are discussing design or making customer contacts
on their fondleslabs:
" ...
Thank you.  We'll do that.  Have a great day!"

And one of our customer support reps once mentioned that his wireless
headset worked in the restroom.  Imagine the background noise.
 
>Dumbest of all time? I'm not sure. But dumb enough - no question.


On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 10:52:12 -0500, Chuck Kreiter wrote:

>Last office I worked in did this.  Everyone said it would kill productivity 
>but we were told we were wrong.  I now work from home and get more done than I 
>ever have in my career.  
>
>This is the key paragraph in this article:
>
>"What if you're just a worker-bee? Well, tread lightly. As a general rule, 
>bosses don't react well when told they've made an expensive, dumb mistake. 
>There are also some folk at your workplace whose careers are now tied to the 
>"success" of the office redesign."
>
>These people who made the decisions work in actual walled offices with doors 
>they can close.  
>
ObQoheleth in the Dilberverse.

>https://www.inc.com/geoffrey-james/its-official-open-plan-offices-are-now-dumbest-management-fad-of-all-time.html

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Re: It's Official: Open-Plan Offices Are Now the Dumbest Management Fad of All Time | Inc.com

[Phil Smith III]

To their credit, my management also has cubicles. And hates them as much as we 
do, but our Corporate Overlords are in control of that.

 

We also have "Focus rooms": a bunch of small rooms of varying sizes where you 
can go to be alone or meet in small groups. They're theoretically time-limited, 
but are NOT prebookable. I say "theoretically" because I'm told that they're 
never in high enough demand for it to be an issue. (And I work from home so I 
sure don't care.)

 

The sort-of funny thing is, I've gotten so inured to cubicles that the Focus 
rooms seemed like a great idea; of course, with civilized offices, folks would 
get more done and all that real estate dedicated to the Focus rooms wouldn't be 
wasted.


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Re: Crosshair cursor

[Seymour J Metz]

What do you do when you can't see where the cursor is in order to move it where 
want it? Hitting home and then moving it back near where it was isn't nearly as 
nice as having the crosshairs. To say nothing of lining up text.


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Does anybody here voluntarily use a crosshair cursor in your 3270 emulator?
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Re: It's Official: Open-Plan Offices Are Now the Dumbest Management Fad of All Time | Inc.com

[Lester, Bob]

Greetings,

   BTDT.  I'm old enough to need a bit of QUIET when trying to read a dump - 
nervermind having to do that while on the phone with a vendor.

   Might be applicable in a DevOps environment - which we do here - but it's 
nevertheless a distraction since I'm right next door...   

BobL

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You haven't lived until you have to talk to a vendor on the telephone while 
surrounded by other conversations. To be fair, they don't appreciate your 
reading out loud from the dump any more then you enjoy their chatter - which 
might also be with vendor support groups.

Dumbest of all time? I'm not sure. But dumb enough - no question.


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Subject: Fwd: It's Official: Open-Plan Offices Are Now the Dumbest Management 
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Re: It's Official: Open-Plan Offices Are Now the Dumbest Management Fad of All Time | Inc.com

[Schuffenhauer, Mark]

>From working 30 years on systems to development projects and just about 
>anything that needed to be done, I can see when open office can work.  I can 
>see when it would have helped with productivity.  Usually projects doing 
>something new and quite fast.  The caveat is, with the right people that fit 
>with what we're doing.  Not what management, analysts, and project people 
>think we need.  No one would think it through.  I would stare at "Ted" for a 
>year, but never had any reason to work with "Ted. "

The flip side is often the tasks my team needs to do require research, testing, 
coding, QA testing what has changed, and setting up everything for 
implementation.  Tasks best done without interruption.  The large cube with 6 
foot walls, and small entry made me incredibly productive.  As we went to small 
cubes with short walls, that changed a lot.  With a laptop I could hide places 
with a network drop, and once there was wireless LAN connectivity, options were 
unlimited.

"Don't do anything without a ticket."  "Don't give people free, easy access to 
me, when it's quicker to do something and make them go away."

The "Interesting, trendy name here" open cubical experiments over the years 
were generally unsuccessful because they were too generic.  It treated workers 
like a herd, and not looking at our job differences and what we had to 
accomplish, and what resources we needed to be successful.  (3 paragraph rant 
on contracting/outsourcing projects are often the same way, retracted).

Mark

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You haven't lived until you have to talk to a vendor on the telephone while 
surrounded by other conversations. To be fair, they don't appreciate your 
reading out loud from the dump any more then you enjoy their chatter - which 
might also be with vendor support groups.

Dumbest of all time? I'm not sure. But dumb enough - no question.


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Re: It's Official: Open-Plan Offices Are Now the Dumbest Management Fad of All Time | Inc.com

[Seymour J Metz]

You haven't lived until you have to talk to a vendor on the telephone while 
surrounded by other conversations. To be fair, they don't appreciate your 
reading out loud from the dump any more then you enjoy their chatter - which 
might also be with vendor support groups.

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Re: HSM and empty files

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 10:52:41 -0600, Glenn Wilcock wrote:
>
>I looked and didn't see any Patches for skipping empty data sets.
>
>HSM treats these as normal since both migration and expiration can depend on 
>the existence of a valid backup copy.  For this reason, HSM recently added 
>support for data sets with an undefined data set org (OA52304), since some 
>clients reported that a large number of these data sets were consuming a large 
>amount of primary storage and HSM was not able to process them.
> 
I vaguely recall that long ago, perhaps when HSM was very new, it didn't, 
perhaps couldn't
deal with empty data sets, perhaps empty PDSes.

Perhaps an explicit HMIGRATE command failed on an empty data set.

I considered this a defect, attributable to the design's ignoring a boundary 
condition.

To my taste, too many IBM products fail to handle the low-end boundary condition
properly, and are getting worse.

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Re: Exit Calls or Using

[Binyamin Dissen]

On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 08:25:24 +0400 Peter  wrote:

:>Is there a way to determine if an EXIT is being used by anyone ? Like to
:>know the number of times it is called for performing any functions or if it
:>is invoked ?

Two issues:

1) Is the exit taken? Of course, when documented. Obviously CICS exits will
not be taken if CICS is not installed. Or SETPROG defined exits will not do
anything if the jobs that it applies to do not run.

2) Does the exit provide a useful function for your shop? That requires source
review.

:>I am trying to take some list of obsolete EXITS which are not being used .


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Fwd: How Ancient Religious Texts Went Digital (with IBM's help)

[Mark Regan]

https://gizmodo.com/how-ancient-religious-texts-went-digital-1831241832

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Re: HSM and empty files

[Glenn Wilcock]

Hi, 

I looked and didn't see any Patches for skipping empty data sets.

HSM treats these as normal since both migration and expiration can depend on 
the existence of a valid backup copy.  For this reason, HSM recently added 
support for data sets with an undefined data set org (OA52304), since some 
clients reported that a large number of these data sets were consuming a large 
amount of primary storage and HSM was not able to process them.

Glenn Wilcock

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FW: Concurrent Server Task Dispatch issue multitasking issue

[Joseph Reichman]

Hi 

 

I posted this yesterday on the TCP/IP listserv but in reality its more of
z/os multitasking issue

 

thanks 

From: Joseph Reichman  
Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2019 3:21 PM
To: 'IBM TCP/IP List' 
Subject: Concurrent Server Task Dispatch issue 

 

Hi

 

I have a concurrent server with four subtasks. I used the basic design from
section H a beginners guide to TCP/IP programming. One difference in mine.
The subtask(s) handle multiple I/O's

And there for they too have a SELECT API not for listening to incoming
connections but to handle reads on multiple sockets

 

Both the main Task and subtasks have multiple ECB waits. The Main Task
waits for on 2 ecbs 1) Select 2) Modify COMECBPT.

 

The problem I am having is with the modify command it works once and doesn't
work 5 times why because the main task hardly gets control.

 

Both the main and Subtasks have time out values so I can WTO a message when
there is a TIMEOUT I can see the WTO from subtask time out but not the main
it does pop up once in a while

 

I tried using CALLDISP on the subtask TIMEOUT  CHAP playing around with the
DPMOD and  LPMOD on the ATTACH but the best I could up with was having the
Modify command work once out of  5 times

 

Again from the WTO's at TIMEOUT on the select I can see when the subtask are
executing and the main task

 

Any Suggestions are appreciated

 

 

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Re: Fwd: It's Official: Open-Plan Offices Are Now the Dumbest Management Fad of All Time | Inc.com

[Tom Marchant]

On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 09:27:48 -0500, Mark Regan wrote:

>For those of you who find yourselves in this type of working environment.
>
>https://www.inc.com/geoffrey-james/its-official-open-plan-offices-are-now-dumbest-management-fad-of-all-time.html

"As a general rule, bosses don't react well when told they've made an 
expensive, dumb mistake. There are also some folk at your workplace whose 
careers are now tied to the 'success' of the office redesign."

Ain't that the truth!

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Re: It's Official: Open-Plan Offices Are Now the Dumbest Management Fad of All Time | Inc.com

[Chuck Kreiter]

Last office I worked in did this.  Everyone said it would kill productivity but 
we were told we were wrong.  I now work from home and get more done than I ever 
have in my career.  

This is the key paragraph in this article:

"What if you're just a worker-bee? Well, tread lightly. As a general rule, 
bosses don't react well when told they've made an expensive, dumb mistake. 
There are also some folk at your workplace whose careers are now tied to the 
"success" of the office redesign."

These people who made the decisions work in actual walled offices with doors 
they can close.  

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For those of you who find yourselves in this type of working environment.

https://www.inc.com/geoffrey-james/its-official-open-plan-offices-are-now-dumbest-management-fad-of-all-time.html

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[Mark Regan]

For those of you who find yourselves in this type of working environment.

https://www.inc.com/geoffrey-james/its-official-open-plan-offices-are-now-dumbest-management-fad-of-all-time.html

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Re: Exit Calls or Using

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Identifying obsolete exits or exit functionality that needs to be retired is 
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JES2 exits are taken as defined in JES2PARM or by commands.
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Re: Exit Calls or Using

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For some exits, it is clear by definition: 
SMF exits are taken as specified in SMFPRMxx, IEFUSO and IEFUJP as specified in 
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> Is there a way to determine if an EXIT is being used by anyone ? Like to
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Re: EXTERNAL: Exit Calls or Using

[Crawford, Robert C.]

Instruction fetch SLIP trap that creates a trace record every time the exit is 
or is not entered?

Unfortunately, negatives like this are very hard to prove.

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Hi

Is there a way to determine if an EXIT is being used by anyone ? Like to know 
the number of times it is called for performing any functions or if it is 
invoked ?

I am trying to take some list of obsolete EXITS which are not being used .

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Re: Implementign Web Services Security in CICS v5.4

[Gadi Ben-Avi]

Thanks Kurt

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On 1/3/2019 3:30 AM, Gadi Ben-Avi wrote:
> Hi,
> We need to implement Web Services Security in CICS v5.4 The CICS
> manual says we need APAR OA14956 for ICSF.
>
> I tried looking up the PTF for this APAR, but I can't find it.
>
> Does anyone know what the PTF is for z/OS v2.2?
That APAR closed in I think 2006.  It was likely integrated into the ICSF base 
for z/OS V1.9 or V1.10.  So, there is no PTF required for z/OS V2.2.  Not sure 
why the CICS manual continues to call out this fix.

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Re: Implementign Web Services Security in CICS v5.4

[Kurt Quackenbush]

On 1/3/2019 3:30 AM, Gadi Ben-Avi wrote:

Hi,
We need to implement Web Services Security in CICS v5.4
The CICS manual says we need APAR OA14956 for ICSF.

I tried looking up the PTF for this APAR, but I can't find it.

Does anyone know what the PTF is for z/OS v2.2?
That APAR closed in I think 2006.  It was likely integrated into the 
ICSF base for z/OS V1.9 or V1.10.  So, there is no PTF required for z/OS 
V2.2.  Not sure why the CICS manual continues to call out this fix.


Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E Development

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Re: Crosshair cursor

[Styles, Andy (ITS zPlatform Services)]

Classification: Public


On 02-01-2019 at 16:51, Robert Prins wrote:

>> On 2019-01-02 08:26, Styles, Andy , ITS zPlatform Services wrote:

>> 62 x 160 eh? Still using a small screen then? :-)

> Only 23" full HD, and pretty bad eyesight, myopic (-6.5) and problems using 
> multifocal glasses.

Heh. I was really referring to the 62 x 160; I use 84 x 160. However, I do have 
better eyes- 19" 4:3, and sometimes smaller (down to the 14" laptop screen..)

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Re: Crosshair cursor

[Chambers, David W.]

"Yes," he said sheepishly, "it's an age thing."

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Re: Implementign Web Services Security in CICS v5.4

[Gadi Ben-Avi]

Maybe because z/OS v2.4 is not available yet :-)

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Chances are OA14956 was sup'd and you are good.

But, there is this FIXCAT(IBM.Coexistence.ICSF.z/OS_V2R2-V2R3-HCR77D0).  I 
couldn't find one for V2R4.

;-D an


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I ran the command against the z/OS CSI.
No PTFs are missing.

Gadi

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Gadi,



Run a SMPE report using either 
FIXCAT(IBM.TargetSystem-RequiredService.CICS.V5R4) or if you like some extra 
reading FIXCAT(*).



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Hi,

We need to implement Web Services Security in CICS v5.4 The CICS manual says we 
need APAR OA14956 for ICSF.



I tried looking up the PTF for this APAR, but I can't find it.



Does anyone know what the PTF is for z/OS v2.2?



Thanks



Gadi





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Re: Implementign Web Services Security in CICS v5.4

[Gadi Ben-Avi]

The APAR mentioned in the documentation was for ICSF, which is part of z/OS, so 
I checked against the z/OS CSI.

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On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 12:14:09 +, Gadi Ben-Avi  wrote:

>I ran the command against the z/OS CSI.
>No PTFs are missing.
>
>Gadi

CICS should have an SREL of C150 whilst zOS is Z038 - are you sure you are 
running the command against the correct zone?

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Re: Implementign Web Services Security in CICS v5.4

[Roger Lowe]

On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 12:14:09 +, Gadi Ben-Avi  wrote:

>I ran the command against the z/OS CSI.
>No PTFs are missing.
>
>Gadi

CICS should have an SREL of C150 whilst zOS is Z038 - are you sure you are 
running the command against the correct zone?

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Re: Implementign Web Services Security in CICS v5.4

[Blake, Daniel J [CTR]]

Chances are OA14956 was sup'd and you are good.

But, there is this FIXCAT(IBM.Coexistence.ICSF.z/OS_V2R2-V2R3-HCR77D0).  I 
couldn't find one for V2R4.

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I ran the command against the z/OS CSI.
No PTFs are missing.

Gadi

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Gadi,



Run a SMPE report using either 
FIXCAT(IBM.TargetSystem-RequiredService.CICS.V5R4) or if you like some extra 
reading FIXCAT(*).



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Subject: Implementign Web Services Security in CICS v5.4



Hi,

We need to implement Web Services Security in CICS v5.4 The CICS manual says we 
need APAR OA14956 for ICSF.



I tried looking up the PTF for this APAR, but I can't find it.



Does anyone know what the PTF is for z/OS v2.2?



Thanks



Gadi





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Re: Implementign Web Services Security in CICS v5.4

[Gadi Ben-Avi]

I ran the command against the z/OS CSI.
No PTFs are missing.

Gadi

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Gadi,



Run a SMPE report using either 
FIXCAT(IBM.TargetSystem-RequiredService.CICS.V5R4) or if you like some extra 
reading FIXCAT(*).



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Hi,

We need to implement Web Services Security in CICS v5.4 The CICS manual says we 
need APAR OA14956 for ICSF.



I tried looking up the PTF for this APAR, but I can't find it.



Does anyone know what the PTF is for z/OS v2.2?



Thanks



Gadi





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Re: Implementign Web Services Security in CICS v5.4

[Blake, Daniel J [CTR]]

Gadi,



Run a SMPE report using either 
FIXCAT(IBM.TargetSystem-RequiredService.CICS.V5R4) or if you like some extra 
reading FIXCAT(*).



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Gadi Ben-Avi
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2019 3:30 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Implementign Web Services Security in CICS v5.4



Hi,

We need to implement Web Services Security in CICS v5.4 The CICS manual says we 
need APAR OA14956 for ICSF.



I tried looking up the PTF for this APAR, but I can't find it.



Does anyone know what the PTF is for z/OS v2.2?



Thanks



Gadi





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DSCHA and RESET

[Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh]

Hello list!

Let's say I run a backup job on Sundays without DSCHA, i.e., backup everything 
under A.*
Mon-Sat, I want to backup only files that were changes or are new.
I thought DSCHA EQ 1 will do this, but apparently, a lot more datasets are 
being picked than were created anew or changed (since the last backup).

What does specifying both of DSCHA EQ 1 and RESET do?
Does it achieve what I'm looking to do?
Looked at the KB for both keywords.. 'fraid am not fully understanding it 
without examples.

Thank you for any tips!

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Implementign Web Services Security in CICS v5.4

[Gadi Ben-Avi]

Hi,
We need to implement Web Services Security in CICS v5.4
The CICS manual says we need APAR OA14956 for ICSF.

I tried looking up the PTF for this APAR, but I can't find it.

Does anyone know what the PTF is for z/OS v2.2?

Thanks

Gadi


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Re: Clarification on using a hardware

[Parwez]

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Subject: Re: Clarification on using a hardware

Of course you have meant z/OS 1.13, not 1.3

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W dniu 2019-01-01 o 16:01, Parwez Hamid pisze:
> As I can't attach nice charts, will try and type the info for supported z/OS 
> levels on different systems (these include systems and z/OS levels withdrawn 
> from marketing). Assumption: appropriate z/OS maintenance has been applied 
> etc:
>
>
> z/OS 1.13 - z9/z10/z196/z114/z12/z13(s)/z14. For z14, see note below.  
> <---corrected
> z/OS 2.1 - z9/z10/z196/z114/z12/z13(s)/z14
> z/OS 2.2 - z10/z196/z114/z12/z13(s)/z14
> z/OS 2.3 - z12/z13(s)/z14
>
> Notes:
>
> The IBM Software Support Services for z/OS V1.13, offered as of October 1, 
> 2016, provides the ability for customers to purchase extended defect support 
> service for z/OS V1.13
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