Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OSMF

2023-06-22 Thread Brian Westerman
The little single CPU processors don't have the boost feature.

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OSMF

2023-06-22 Thread Brian Westerman
You don't even need to ask IBM any more, the process is published.

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Re: GRS setup for MONOPLEX to SYSPLEX

2023-06-22 Thread Brian Westerman
what else would you expect to see in the FICON CTC reference guide :)

You need to look at the technical guide for the specific hardware box that you 
want to implement on.  I think that starting with the z13 that they allowed.  
There may have been some other methods previous to the z13, but this was the 
first that I came aware of something other than CF's and FC-CTCs.

PSIFB - Parallel Sysplex InfiniBand
ICA - Integrated Coupling Adapter
IC - Internal Coupling link

and then also FC-CTC which we already discussed.

Brian

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Re: z/OSMF

2023-06-22 Thread Brian Westerman
The last one I see updated when you follow the link to the actual files is the 
2.4 and the z15 workflows.

Brian

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Re: Python SDK for z/OS 3.11 is zIIP eligible

2023-06-22 Thread Matt Hogstrom
The doc appears to not disallow the offload based on machine model.  I thought 
it odd to cap the offload to 70% though

• z16
• z15™
• z14®/z14 model ZR1
• z13®/z13s®
• zEnterprise EC12/BC12

z/OS 2.4 or 2.5

and the appropriate PTFs

– BCP APAR OA63406 with PTF UJ92511 – HBB77C0 for z/OS 2.4
– BCP APAR OA63406 with PTF UJ92512 – HBB77D0 for z/OS 2.5
– Open Enterprise SDK for Python APAR PH52983


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> On Jun 22, 2023, at 8:03 PM, David Crayford  wrote:
> 
> I didn’t see that in the doc. Did you hear that on the grapevine? 


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Re: Python SDK for z/OS 3.11 is zIIP eligible

2023-06-22 Thread David Crayford
> On 22 Jun 2023, at 10:14 pm, Ed Jaffe  wrote:
> 
> On 6/21/2023 8:12 PM, David Crayford wrote:
>> Starting with IBM Open Enterprise SDK for Python v3.11 with APAR PH52983, 
>> when accompanied with z/OS 2.4 or 2.5 APAR OA63406, Python applications will 
>> become eligible for execution on zIIP processors as described 
>> inhttps://www.ibm.com/support/pages/authorized-use-table.
> 
> On z16 only IIRC...
> 

I didn’t see that in the doc. Did you hear that on the grapevine? It makes 
sense as the main driver is AI/ML exploitation of the Telum chip. There are 
patched versions of TensorFlow and SnapML for Linux on Z that exploit Telum 
that I expect to be available on z/OS soon. 

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Re: Python SDK for z/OS 3.11 is zIIP eligible

2023-06-22 Thread Jon Newton
>From the Use Table: "... and excluding when invoked via API or when embedded 
>in another application"

What exactly does "invoked via API" refer to?  Running a python script via a 
zOSMF REST API?


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On 6/21/2023 8:12 PM, David Crayford wrote:
> Starting with IBM Open Enterprise SDK for Python v3.11 with APAR PH52983, 
> when accompanied with z/OS 2.4 or 2.5 APAR OA63406, Python applications will 
> become eligible for execution on zIIP processors as described 
> inhttps://www.ibm.com/support/pages/authorized-use-table.

Ed Jaffe wrote:

   On z16 only IIRC...



... and only up to 70% of the Python code:

https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/python-zos/3.11?topic=z-integrated-information-processor


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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OSMF

2023-06-22 Thread Tom Brennan
Interesting!  Maybe IBM will think about adding logic so a required 
process such as this can be boosted permanently, without affecting 
anything else running.


Related:  I was surprised a couple of weeks ago when the owner of a 
particular ISV product said their program can run on a zIIP.  I said how 
do you manage that?  Answer: We asked IBM for it.  I'll guess you know 
all about this (as an ISV) but I didn't know it was even possible.


On 6/22/2023 1:01 PM, Ed Jaffe wrote:


My theory is that IPL boost was initially invented to increase z/OSMF 
adoption since its startup cost was a big area of complaint.


The rest was gravy...




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Re: Python SDK for z/OS 3.11 is zIIP eligible

2023-06-22 Thread Adam Johanson
On 6/21/2023 8:12 PM, David Crayford wrote:
> Starting with IBM Open Enterprise SDK for Python v3.11 with APAR PH52983, 
> when accompanied with z/OS 2.4 or 2.5 APAR OA63406, Python applications will 
> become eligible for execution on zIIP processors as described 
> inhttps://www.ibm.com/support/pages/authorized-use-table.

Ed Jaffe wrote:

   On z16 only IIRC...



... and only up to 70% of the Python code:

https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/python-zos/3.11?topic=z-integrated-information-processor


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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OSMF

2023-06-22 Thread Ed Jaffe

On 6/22/2023 9:38 AM, Pommier, Rex wrote:

IBM has their IPL CPU boost function.  Maybe they could somehow flag zOSMF to 
speed up the processor while it's running so as to not kill the small machine?


My theory is that IPL boost was initially invented to increase z/OSMF 
adoption since its startup cost was a big area of complaint.


The rest was gravy...


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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OSMF

2023-06-22 Thread Pommier, Rex
IBM has their IPL CPU boost function.  Maybe they could somehow flag zOSMF to 
speed up the processor while it's running so as to not kill the small machine?  

Rex

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After a couple years of use, I feel I'm pretty safe saying that, to me, z/OSMF 
appears to be a poorly designed and very badly programmed product.  Most 
vendors would have ditched the product and stopped promoting it by now, but IBM 
probably has grand "plans" that won't really come into fruition until sometime 
around 2030 for z/OSMF.  

As you all know, the z/OSMF product is the ONLY way to install z/OS, (without 
using COS), and the product doesn't even run in a usable way on their smallest, 
(but still supported and sold) processors.  So some poor site that buys into a 
z/15 T02 or z/16 A01 with a single CPU can barely even get the product up let 
alone have more than one user, and even that user (the systems programmer doing 
the install) has abysmal response time.  

I have pointed the problem out to IBM (multiple times), and have gone through 
the entire process of "proving" the issue(s) several times showing the issues 
in detail, only to be pointed to a manual that states that you "should" have a 
minimum of a 400MIP processor complex to use z/OSMF, (because that's what they 
use(d) for testing). 

The next problem I already see happening is that they are throwing a bunch of 
new "features" and add-ons into it, and some of them would be great products on 
their own, but are being hobbled by the (IMO) poorly designed product.  

I still can't believe that the same company that proudly states that we can 
still run code developed in the 1960's on the z/16 seems to care less about the 
fact that their installation vehicle doesn't support their own small end 
processors that you need the z/OSMF installation vehicle to install the OS 
with.  Any other vendor would be laughed out of town.  

One of the sites we support (a z13s, no zIIP, single CPU) can't even install 
the updates from Broadcom via the "normal" method because using the Java 
interface times out before authentication.  The solution from Broadcom (until 
IBM can fix their issue) is that they build a special delivery package for the 
site to use.  That's just sad, and what was IBM's response after 7 months of 
"looking into" the problem?  "The site could use a faster processor or the 
vendor should increase the authentication time limit."  Neither of those is a 
possible solution in this case.  

Very sad and poorly played on IBM's part.  

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Re: Python SDK for z/OS 3.11 is zIIP eligible

2023-06-22 Thread Ed Jaffe

On 6/21/2023 8:12 PM, David Crayford wrote:

Starting with IBM Open Enterprise SDK for Python v3.11 with APAR PH52983, when 
accompanied with z/OS 2.4 or 2.5 APAR OA63406, Python applications will become 
eligible for execution on zIIP processors as described 
inhttps://www.ibm.com/support/pages/authorized-use-table.


On z16 only IIRC...


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Re: GRS setup for MONOPLEX to SYSPLEX

2023-06-22 Thread Dana Mitchell
Where are you seeing this or what is it called?  The only shortcut I of know is:

https://www-40.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/lib03010.nsf/0/D78D2E0FE578329485258194006D1387/$file/SB10-7174-00.pdf

With FICON partition-to-partition communication technology, communication
between logical partitions of a single physical system can be achieved 
utilizing only a single physical
FICON channel attached to a FICON Director switch.

On Thu, 22 Jun 2023 00:19:21 -0500, Brian Westerman 
 wrote:

>According to the manual, you can configure them to be connected apparently 
>without wires.  I believe it does the route internally, but I can't really 
>tell from the manual.  There is probably a better manual because I seem to be 
>seeing just the overview, bur it does appear to not need any cabling.
>
>Brian

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Re: z/OSMF

2023-06-22 Thread Ann Kelley
IBM does post an exported HTML copy of the Upgrade Workflow on the internet,  
so you wouldn't need to bring z/OSMF up, to get a copy.  I don't know if the 
HTML is easy to use,  but there is an alternative.
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.5.0?topic=level-zos-upgrade-workflow

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Re: Datacom/Ad upgrade 15.1

2023-06-22 Thread Paul Beesley
It's not in any CPAC library.
I found it in here: IPO1.CUSTPAC.SCPPLOAD (your HLQ may differ).

Best Regards
Paul

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It is shipped with z/os serverpac. Depends on your installation. Perhaps CPAC 
prefix library contains it if it wasn't copied to your active linklist.

On Wed, Jun 21, 2023, 03:24 Sathish Kumar  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Am upgrading Datacom/AD 15.1 while running the installation job
> Axcus00 it's amended due to the IPOUPDTE module not being found.
>
> I have checked the link list dataset I don't see that module.
>
> I checked the CPPUPDTE program it's not found.  IPOUPDTE is an alias
> of CPPUPDTE.
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> Any idea how we can get that module?
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