Re: Regina rexx translate error

[Mike Beer]

Hi,
the error message indicates that the first single quote might be `  (accent 
aigu) instead of a single quote.
This character has a special meaning in Linux.

Best regards
Mike

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ITschak Mugzach
Sent: Donnerstag, 1. August 2024 09:51
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Regina rexx translate error

I know, this is a mainframe forum, but I know many of you use Regina.

Anyway, the command XXX = TRanslate(XXX,' ','"') get error msgs such as:
sh: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `"'
sh: -c": line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file.

As you can see, I do use single quotes to enclose the double quotes. Any idea 
how to perform this translation? I also tried xxx = translate(xxx,'
','22'x) with same errors

ITschak
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Re: Mainframe history - 12 inch floppies?

[Mike Beer]

Thank you for mentioning author and title.

I found this short bio:
Raj Mohan Joshi, a renowned lecturer of biotechnology, has had a brilliant 
academic record. He has worked with various institutes and has participated in 
many national and international conferences. He is widely travelled. He has 
presented many paper of international repute inn national as well as 
international seminars, symposia, workshops and congresses. As a prolific 
writer, he has contributed many learned articles in various journals and 
magazines and also authored a number of books on modern science and technology.

Typos from the website are not corrected: 
https://www.abebooks.com/9788182053786/Writing-Skills-Technical-Purposes-Rajmohan-8182053781/plp


Does not really sound like an IT expert, especially not in mainframe technology.

Best regards
Mike

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Radoslaw Skorupka
Sent: Samstag, 13. Juli 2024 14:36
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Subject: Re: Mainframe history - 12 inch floppies?

Gentlemen,

Let me explain again.
It wasn't a joke, I had really read about 12-inch floppies. It was a book, not 
just someone's junk post to some forum.

The book is dated 2006
Title: Introduction to Computers
Editor: Rajmohan Joshi
ISBN: 81-8205-379-X
page 79

In fact I did not believe the information from the book, so I wanted to verify 
it.
Since many of notable IBM-MAIN members denied it, I'm pretty sure the book is 
simply wrong.
THANK YOU ALL.


BTW: Privately I am floppy disk entomologist. As well as other storage media, 
like tapes, etc.
I have a lot of pictures, data sheets, etc. And even my own 55-page booklet. :-)

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W dniu 13.07.2024 o 00:03, Michael Oujesky pisze:
> What book?  Have the ISBN for it?
>
> Michael
>
> At 11:00 AM 7/11/2024, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>>
>> I just found information in some book that IBM mainframes used 12 
>> inch floppy diskettes. Late 70's.
>>
>> Anybody heard about such diskettes?
>>
>> -- 
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>> Lodz, Poland

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Re: GG22-9036

[Mike Beer]

There seems to be a source:

https://www.computinghistory.org.uk/det/9854/Washington-Systems-Center-Techn
ical-Bulletin-Services-Required-for-an-Event-Driven-Program/

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Subject: GG22-9036

.Does anyone know if there is a version of GG22-9036 available via the
Internet? GG22-9036Services Required for an Event Driven Program  Is
there an updated version of this publication..paul dangelo 

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AW: Markup languages: LaTeX and internal links

[Mike Beer]

Hi Bob,

LaTex can be expanded by using packages.
One that might help is you this one:
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Hyperlinks


Best regards
Mike

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Gesendet: Sunday, January 01, 2023 17:20
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Betreff: Markup languages: LaTeX and internal links

Back to markup languages:  How do I get LaTex to create internal links?  Or
external links either, for that matter?

I now have a copy of LaTex with MiKTeX, and have been reading the
documentation and experimenting.  I like what I see so far.  But nowhere in
the documentation can I find any reference to internal hyperlinks.  All
mentions of cross-references seem to mean simply text that says "see page
12" or "...chapter 5" or "...figure 8.3".  I'm all for that, but I want the
reader to be able to click on "see Section 5.13" and jump straight to it  If
I can't do it in LaTeX, it's a deal-breaker.  It must be possible, I'm sure,
but where is it documented?

As I understand it:
- TeX is a basic typesetting program.
- LaTeX is an extension to TeX; I gather it overrides some TeX behaviors and
adds others, by adding
  packaged definitions written in TeX.
- LaTeX2e is a significant update to LaTeX.
- MiKTeX is an editor that simplifies writing LaTeX documents.

After downloading and installing MiKTeX I discovered that it didn't have
much in the way of LaTeX documentation, so I hunted around on the web.  I've
read:

- Most of "LaTeX / A document preparation system / User's guide and
reference manual" by Leslie Lamport; looks like a document that was scanned
and then run through OCR to translate it to PDF.  No PDF bookmarks.

- Some of "LaTeX2e for authors" and "New LATEX methods for authors (starting
2020)", both of which seem to be more in the way of summaries than manuals.

- I skimmed through "MikTeX Manual / Revision 4.6" by Christian Schenk.
This seems to focus on commands that I suppose are executed from the DOS
window, so I didn't pay close attention; that may be where I'm going wrong.

- "A short manual for TeXworks (lowering the entry barrier to the TeX
world)" by Alain Delmotte, Stefan Löffler, and others; I haven't looked at
this one yet, believing it to be irrelevant to my question.

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AW: Location of forms code in z/OS manuals

[Mike Beer]

Hi,
Students of Rony Flatscher (Professor at the WU, Vienna) worked on several
interesting REXX projects.
One of the was the use of PDF files out of Rexx.

https://wi.wu.ac.at/rgf/diplomarbeiten/

Look for author Dobrea

Rony's Bean Scripting Framework allows the easy integration of Java into
ooREXX.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/bsf4oorexx/

Best regards
Mike

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Betreff: Re: Location of forms code in z/OS manuals

I wanted to write a script to index a bunch of manuals that I downloaded
from IBM and wanted the forms code to be the primary key. The file names are
not very helpful. Given that, I have to live with whatever information IBM
chooses to provide, unless and until someone submits an RFE with a
compelling business case for adding more metadata.


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Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2022 6:35 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Location of forms code in z/OS manuals

On Tue, 25 Oct 2022 17:01:22 -0500, Joel C. Ewing  wrote:
>...
>Lacking a convention to use a specific metadata key for the manual 
>publication number, the obvious and simplest way to supply the manual 
>publication number in a manner that could easily be extracted from a 
>PDF file is to include the complete designation as part of the file name.
>
The OP hasn't explained clearly what he needs to do, perhaps with an example
of what he wants to see.

Is there a satisfactory example, perhaps from an organization other than
IBM?

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AW: Assembler courses

[Mike Beer]

This could be interesting:
https://github.com/adelosa/learnasm370

best regards
Mike

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Hey Gary, 

I can't recommend these folks as I haven't actually used their services, but
know they offer some assembler courses (including 'advanced', whatever that
means). I've also heard that both BMC and Rocket utilize their training,
unconfirmed.  Anyway... 

Darren Surch COO Interskill Learning
O:214.459.6322   M:469.826.1811   dsu...@interskill.com

HTH,
Mike 

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To help a person who has COBOL and C language experience learn to write
assembler, I would like them to learn from the start both reentrant and
baseless coding techniques.  Is there training available that assumes the
instruction set available on the z12 is the starting point and that teaches
reentrancy as the norm?

(Cross-posted to IBM-Main and Assembler-list)





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AW: NOTSP The Latin of Software Code Is Thriving - The New York Times

[Mike Beer]

HI,
Other candidates could include PL/I - which is/was very common in Europe -
and
REXX and maybe APL.
Applications that were created many years ago work with virtually no
modifications.

Best regards
Mike
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Betreff: Re: NOTSP The Latin of Software Code Is Thriving - The New York
Times

It's *so* weird! Imagine writing this:

"Sarah, age 23, rejected her college advisor's career advice and started
work at Boeing in Seattle last year. Her friends who mainly pursued careers
in banking and law outright laugh at her for designing airplanes, the
antiquated vehicles invented well over a century ago. But Sarah takes their
ribbing in stride even as she works on designs that past generations of
engineers could mostly comprehend."

Or this:

"Last night Olivia Rodrigo won the 2022 GRAMMY for Best New Artist. It's
ironic that the Recording Academy uses the word 'new' to describe any award
they hand out. Audio recording was invented all the way back in the 1800s
with only modest incremental improvements since. And it's particularly
galling that Rodrigo has never publicly thanked Thomas Edison and other
music recording pioneers for contributing to her success in the ancient
industry she chose. Of course everyone knows music is dying. One analyst in
Ecuador predicts that within 10 years the number of people who listen to
music at least once per day will fall by 92.4%."

Here's how I think of programming languages. There's a very short list of
programming languages that are both so common, so useful, and (relatedly) so
adaptable (incrementally improved, integrated, extended, etc.) that they
have (for all intents and purposes) achieved "immortality." COBOL is
definitely on this distinguished short list. Other things being equal it's a
great characteristic when you're making investment choices including career
choices.

It just doesn't matter that (for example) the C programming language was
ostensibly born circa 1969 (with an earlier implementation, the B
programming language) and COBOL was first specified in 1960. If in 2022 you
want to assign any significance to a ~9 year difference in birth dates to
make some sort of utility argument then you're (in a word) crazy. The C
programming language is another entry on the distinguished short list, but
it just so happens it's a pretty awful programming language for most
business application programming.

Which leads to an interesting thought exercise. In 2022 if you're trying to
choose a programming language for business application programming that
stands the best chance of being durable (being realistically maintainable,
extendable, enhance-able) for the next 40+ years — a common requirement for
many high value, nontrivial business applications — what programming
language would you choose? I suggest Enterprise COBOL ought to be a
candidate. (Any other nominations?)

— — — — —
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Senior Architect
Digital Assets, Industry Solutions, and Cybersecurity IBM zSystems/LinuxONE,
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AW: Own your own Z13 and Z16

[Mike Beer]

FICON and SYSPLEX support? 😉

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*that* is very funny coming from Lenovo. I want one with the Z Series 
instruction set.

René.

Sent from my iPad

> On 1 Jul 2022, at 11:04, Mike Shorkend  wrote:
> 
> This really amused me
> 
> 
> https://www.lenovo.com/au/en/thinkpadz?orgRef=https%253A%252F%252Fwww.
> google.com%252F
> 
> The latest Lenovo Thinkpad series is called 'Z SERIES'. There are two 
> models - a Z13 and a Z16.
> 
> I wonder if this is an intentional  gesture made by Lenovo to the 
> Thinkpad's heritage(IBM)?
> 
> Or just a wild coincidence?
> 
> 
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AW: [EXTERNAL] z16 video

[Mike Beer]

This video (w/o the youtube subtitles) would have been a very good presentation 
during the z16 launch event.

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Betreff: Re: [EXTERNAL] z16 video

As the OP, I guess it kind of surprised me that there were so many mistakes in 
the CC.  But watching a bit of it again, it appears as though it is youtube's 
CC software that is messing it up, not a part of the video itself.  So while 
still annoying, I can see the issue better, that the generic CC will simply do 
a "best guess" on things that are subjective, like cache vs cash.

Rex

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To me it’s not a big deal as I can cope.  Personally I hate to see everything 
go to the lowest common denominator like UX where color would be beneficial to 
the broadest segment of the market but contrasts are preferred for the color 
blind

I didn’t intend to go off topic.   Ed’s suggestion was good.  Choose the 
interface that makes sense and not all of them have high fidelity.  Such is life

Matt Hogstrom
+1 (919) 656-0564

> On Apr 6, 2022, at 11:46, René Jansen  wrote:
> 
> I can sympathize because after 10 years in a Rolling Stones coverband I am 
> also missing some of the high part of the frequency spectrum; also, I always 
> have subtitles on because reading draws less cpu cycles (of the wetware) than 
> listening; also you can do lots of other things while glancing at the screen 
> with the refresh cycle of the subtitles.
> 
> But a more important point, I think, is the disrespect for the auditory 
> impaired. I always wonder how angry I would be would if I really were deaf. I 
> think it is part of the general dumbification of the world: image if the 
> speaker really said ‘cash’ and would mangle the different plexes  - IBM would 
> be outraged and fire people or agencies. In the sixties there were high hopes 
> of automatic translation, and it seemed to be more complex than people could 
> imagine. Now we have to settle for ’statistic’ translation. There were high 
> hopes for automated close captioning, but guess what, it is more complex than 
> people thought.
> 
> I don’t think we should settle for this: just give one knowledgeable person a 
> job, and make sure it is done the right way. If one deaf manager decides to 
> buy a Z16, you run a profit already.
> More or less the same goes for the ‘web conferencing’ - every company that 
> manufactures plastic wastebaskets can afford an unreachable web conference - 
> but an IT company that needs to keep a reputation of always available and 
> high resilience … make sure you are in control of that appearance. 
> 
> René.
> 
> 
>> On 6 Apr 2022, at 17:25, Matt Hogstrom  wrote:
>> 
>> Unless your deaf (well, in one ear and hard of hearing in the other) 
>> like me and then you wonder if CICSplex is really SYSPLEX
>> 
>> Matt Hogstrom
>> m...@hogstrom.org
>> 
>> “It may be cognitive, but, it ain’t intuitive."
>> — Hogstrom
>> 
 On Apr 6, 2022, at 11:03 AM, Ed Jaffe  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 4/6/2022 5:26 AM, Pommier, Rex wrote:
 Oh I got the accidental joke alright (I actually thought it was funny the 
 first couple times I saw it), but there were enough other transcription 
 errors that the humor left me.  Like I said, I was being picky but it did 
 detract from an otherwise fine video.
>>> 
>>> All closed captioning has errors.
>>> 
>>> The easiest way to shield yourself from having to read it is to simply turn 
>>> it off.
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AW: looking for 'how to' developing Rexx host command

[Mike Beer]

There seems to be a newer offering for OS/2
https://www.arcanoae.com/


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Betreff: Re: looking for 'how to' developing Rexx host command

On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 10:06:34 -0500, Jay Maynard wrote:

>I never understood why IBM kept PL/S such a deep dark secret.
>
Fear of RCA?

>Regardless, PL/S is intimately tied to the 370 and subsequent 
>architectures, and C is not. C also came out much earlier than PL/S, 
>starting in about 1970.
>
A co-worker told me that PL/S was available (IBM-internal) under OS/2.  And 
that SuperC was written in PL/S and runs alike on OS/2 and MVS.

Who owns OS/2 nowadays?  Is there any active development on the kernel?

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AW: looking for 'how to' developing Rexx host command

[Mike Beer]

https://www.ecomstation.com/ is the current OS/2

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On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 10:06:34 -0500, Jay Maynard wrote:

>I never understood why IBM kept PL/S such a deep dark secret.
>
Fear of RCA?

>Regardless, PL/S is intimately tied to the 370 and subsequent 
>architectures, and C is not. C also came out much earlier than PL/S, 
>starting in about 1970.
>
A co-worker told me that PL/S was available (IBM-internal) under OS/2.  And 
that SuperC was written in PL/S and runs alike on OS/2 and MVS.

Who owns OS/2 nowadays?  Is there any active development on the kernel?

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AW: Job submission from CMS to MVS

[Mike Beer]

Depending on what you need,
LPREFIX on KEDIT might be your command:
"The LPREFIX command places the text that you specify into the prefix area
of the focus line and then processes all pending prefix commands. 
The LPREFIX command is equivalent to your moving the cursor to the prefix
area of the focus line, typing the text into the prefix area, and executing
the SOS DOPREFIX command (which is part of the definition of the F12 key
under INTERFACE CUA and of the Home key under INTERFACE CLASSIC). LPREFIX is
useful from within macros that need to execute prefix commands. It also
provides a way to enter and execute prefix commands when the prefix area is
turned off"


As an alternative WITH SET PENDING you might try Mark Hessling's THE (The
Hessling Editor).
http://hessling-editor.sourceforge.net/doc/commset/SETPENDING.html

Best regards
Mike

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I've used KEDIT, with Quercus REXX; it was all right, but I had been spoiled
by XEDIT and I badly missed prefix macros.

We had a home-grown IDE on CMS, based on XEDIT, and I added what I call
"structured input" for Assembler H, PL/I and REXX, which depended heavilly
on SET PENDING. I ported part of it to KEDIT, but it didn't automatically
insert new lines the way that the XEDIT version did. I wish that ISPF had an
equivalent to SET PENDING.

ObColdDeadFingers At home I have Tritus SPF (TSPF), which is a really good
clone of ISPF, although it is abandonware and hasn't bee updated to include
new ISPF features. Still, it isn't XEDIT.

IAC, I consider a good macro to be an essential part of any editor that I
rely on.


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Sent: Monday, March 7, 2022 12:05 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Job submission from CMS to MVS

Hi Shmuel.

Many years ago, I used a virtual card reader on MVS and the CMS users used a
REXX exec to 'SPOOL PUN TO zosvm...'
'PUNCH fn ft fm ( NOH'
'CLOSE PUN'

You might have to play games to have longer than 80-byte records in your
jobs.  And RSCS will (I think) propagate the CMS userid as already validated
(that might not be the case now).  Seems like I might have written a JES
exit to accept the userid on the spool file as the MVS userid for the job
when it was read from the virtual card reader.  (Same disclaimer.)

A great addition was to have a "SUB" XEDIT program, so you can (as you do
from TSO), enter "SUB" on the XEDIT command line to submit the job you're
editing.  And "cmp" would format the JCL and compile the program I was
editing.

It's probably been 30 years now that I've strongly preferred a PC editor
named Kedit (from Mansfield software).  The PC editor isn't limited to
interactions like an AID key--you can use ctrl- or alt- versions of any key
for certain functions (many that I create).   I now keep all my source on a
PC and use a Kedit version of my old SUB XEDIT to submit jobs via FTPs using
"SITE FILETYPE=JES".  So I still use "SUB" and "CMP" and several other
macros to submit jobs.  Since our JES Report Broker (aka JRB) product will
FTP listings when they complete (you could maybe use IDz or some other tool
to return the listings, or view them in SDSF), I use it (JRB) to return the
listings to the Windows FTP server on my PC. An open-source program named
"FileWatcher"  detects the file is returned and invokes Kedit to edit the
listing.  Sounds convoluted, but it's usually maybe 5 seconds or so between
my entering "SUB" on my editor command line and the listing popping up back
in the editor.  No JCL editing or looking for the right listing to view.
Plus, there are no 3270-screen-size limitations on how much of the source or
listing I see.

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AW: ... Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS

[Mike Beer]

I coined the name "SLES" when working for SuSE some time ago.
It stands for
"SuSE Linux Enterprise Server".
Best regards
Mike

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On Tue, 4 Jan 2022, at 13:13, Rony G. Flatscher wrote:
> On 03.01.2022 17:35, Bob Bridges wrote:

>> And I've never heard about ooREXX being available on z/OS. 
>> How do you manage that?  Color me interested.

> Best to give you the links for the tutorial (using ooRexx on the 
> mainframe to interface with DB2) written by Paul Dunkley:
>
>   * either: 
>

>   * or directly:
>   o Part 1: 
> 
>   o Part 2: 
> 
>   o Part 3: 
> 
>   o Part 4: 
> 
>   o Part, Interim Note: 
> 
>   o Part 5: 
> 

Are you SURE that's for using ooREXX under z/OS?Early on in the first
article it says

"The OS is SLES11 SP4 on IBM System z.  SLES11 runs in a z/VM virtual
machine."

Google tells me that "SLES11"  is SUSE Linux.   

Presumably an ooREXX compiled under SUSE Linux gives one something with no
knowledge of, for example, z/OS file systems, let alone any of the
environments supported under TSO REXX.

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AW: Rexx detail, or things I dont do often enough

[Mike Beer]

QUERY RDR gives you more information about the origin.
If this is what you are looking for.

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Gil wrote:

>... All I see is:

>Purpose

>Use the RECEIVE command to read onto a disk or directory one of the 
> files

>or notes in your virtual reader. ...

 

>... no suggestion of RECEIVE from a SFS or MDFS file.

 

Oh, sorry. I missed that you were asking about origin, not destination. In
CMS, you'd just PUNCH the file to yourself and RECEIVE it. Semi-inelegant
but easy.


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AW: tcpip or telnet

[Mike Beer]

Hi
In a linux environment you could use tools like ping and traceroute.
You would see, if your target is reachable and how fast the connection is 
(latency between nodes).
The availability (and names) of such (basic) tools depend on your operating 
system.

e.g. some z/OS info:
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/zosbasics/com.ibm.zos.znetwork/znetwork_344.htm

Using PING and REXX you could easily write such a reporting tool that scans 
your target IP addresses.

Best regards
Mike


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Betreff: tcpip or telnet

I don't know were to start, but i will try to explain what i am looking for... 
tcpip i am looking batch job or command that will produce a report to see if i 
have got any connections very slow or over loaded.. if there is such a thing. i 
want to find any connection that has a delay and a report gives me that 
information..

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AW: Using Windows ssh with z/OS

[Mike Beer]

Maybe using putty might help:
https://www.putty.org/
https://www.ssh.com/ssh/putty/putty-manuals/0.68/Chapter4.html


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Mike

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Betreff: Using Windows ssh with z/OS

When connecting to z/OS (USS) using ssh, I'd like the USS shell to handle keys 
the same way Ubuntu does. I have these settings:

echo $TERM displays xterm-color256
echo $SHELL displays /bin/sh

Specifically, I'd like:

a) The cursor-up key to perform the "history-search-backward" function
b) The cursor-down key to perform the "history-search-forward" function
c) The cursor-left and cursor-right keys to move thru the command just retrieved
d) To be able to change the command by moving the cursor and typing over the 
retrieved command

I've been able to use stty erase ^? in /etc/profile to set the backspace key, 
but my attempts at using ~/.inputrc to control the cursor keys have been 
unsuccessful. Trying different terminal types (eg export TERM=xterm or export 
TERM=vt100) has also not helped.

Does anyone know how to do this?

Best Regards,
Wendell Lovewell

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AW: Getting COBOL training on an actual mainframe

[Mike Beer]

There seem to be several online trainings:
e.g. 
https://www.interskill.com/course-catalog/COBOL-IBM-COBOL-for-zOS.html

Udemy seems to have classes as well:
https://www.udemy.com/course/mainframe-the-complete-cobol-course-from-beginner-to-expert/

Some more links:
https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/wikis/home?lang=en#!/wiki/W2e35a50023ef_4b39_a867_04fb9e1d3329/page/Training+-+COBOL+and+Related


Using Hercules with z/VM should give you access to (an older version of) COBOL 
as well.

If you become an IBM business partner, you should gain access to zPDT
http://dtsc.dfw.ibm.com/adcd/adcd.shtml
https://www.ibm.com/partnerworld/systems/z/ibm-z-developer-offerings

Best regards
Mike



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Betreff: Getting COBOL training on an actual mainframe

My wife has been out of the workforce for several years, she had to take care 
of her father. She knows COBOL, but it was the MicroFocus version on Wintel 
systems. She would like to learn how to use COBOL on z/OS, so is there anyone 
that teaches it where you learn on z/OS. I know that Marist does through their 
IDCP program, but the next class doesn't start until November.

It would be nice if I could get a zPDT and/or ADCD system, but I would probably 
not qualify to purchase one even though I have the funds to do so.

Regards,

*Mark T. Regan, K8MTR*
CTO1 USNR-Retired, 1969-1991
Nationwide Insurance, Retired, 1986-2017

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AW: VSE related questions

[Mike Beer]

Hi,
www.bsitcpip.com might be the contact you are looking for concerning your 
client.

This seems to be a complete (but outdated) collection for REXX manuals:
http://www.rexxinfo.org/All%20IBM%20Rexx%20manuals/ALLIBM_1.HTM

And there is even a redbook (with Jeffrey Barnard):
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg248091.html?Open

Best regards
Mike

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Betreff: VSE related questions

Hello list,

I have some VSE related questions, and I have not been successful in finding 
answers using Google etc.
Is this the right forum, or is there another VSE-specific forum?

Some of my questions:

a) At our site, a FTP client from Barnard (?) name BST... is installed.
When retrieving a file from the PC, I cannot write a SAM-ESDS file, only "real" 
ESDS. What are the parameters to write SAM-ESDS?

b) Can I convince FTP to write fixed length records (say 80), padded with 
blanks, although the sending PC file has variable length records (by nature)?

c) When using REXX on VSE, what are the parameters to read "real" ESDS using 
EXECIO?
I only have a working example which writes a SAM-ESDS :-( and one that reads 
SYSIPT

d) Do (free?) manuals exist for REXX on VSE and for (Barnard's) FTP ?

e) CA-SORT does not accept the STOPAFT Parameter, documented with IBM-Sort, but 
there is a NRECS-Parameter on the OUTPUT statement (IIRC).
I always thought that the different sort tools would accept the same parameters 
:-( is there a free documentation of "our" variant of CA-SORT ?

Many thanks,
have a nice weekend

Bernd

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AW: TN3270 from 3174 -ExSel Problem

[Mike Beer]

HI,
Found that for Alfaskop 41:
http://storage.datormuseum.se/u/96935524/Datormusuem/Alfaskop/Alfaskop_System_41_Terminal_Console_Functions_and_Customizing_Instructions_IBM_3270_Emulation.pdf

http://www.datormuseum.se/peripherals/terminals/alfaskop

Interesting story:
Beginning in the late sixties continuing in late nineties there were 
development of IBM compatible terminal system under the brand Alfaskop. At the 
beginning the terminals were compatible with the IBM 2260, but the later models 
were 3270 compaible. The System 41 depicted above were actually an entire 
system that could either run various terminal emulation software or a be used 
as a personal computer running UCSD p-System.

The development took placed under many different companies ownership. It 
started in ITT owned SRT (Standard Radio och Telefon) and then transfered into 
Stansaab onto Datasaab, which then was bought by Ericsson. Ericsson sold the 
division to Nokia that sold it to ICL and then it ended up with computer 
terminal manufacturer Wyse who closed down operation in 1998.

Best regards
Mike


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Betreff: Re: TN3270 from 3174 -ExSel Problem

>Dave,
>
>What model 3174?
>
>Joe

It turns out its more the terminal that is the issue. The Memorex Telex can be 
configured with an Emulated or Native mode keyboard. In Emulated Mode ExSel 
does not work. It turns out there are two setup modes for the terminal 
"on-line" which is entered by holding "space" down at switch-on.

Now its set to "native mode" it works just fine. 

However on the other terminal I can't see how to get into off-line setup mode 
to change the settings. I have tried holding down several keys at startup, but 
I just get the on-line setup mode Its a "Nokia Alfaskop 472" so if any one has 
a page from the manual that would be nice.

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AW: Where put the notional constant in a condition (Was RE: JCL COND Parameter)

[Mike Beer]

Ken Iverson, the inventor of APL differentiated also between the "-" as an 
operator
And the "-" as the sign of a negative number.

http://www.softwarepreservation.org/projects/apl/Books/APROGRAMMING%20LANGUAGE

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Betreff: Re: Where put the notional constant in a condition (Was RE: JCL COND 
Parameter)

On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 11:59 AM Seymour J Metz  wrote:

> That's an excuse for Fortran, but PL/I already used colons, so why not :=?
>

I will go even farther that than. In today's world, especially outside of the z 
Series, I would prefer the APL assignment character: ← Of course, that is not 
on a keyboard. Well, except when I'm in my TN3270 emulator and turn on APL and 
press the [ key. But I love APL. So much so that I have a PC keyboard which has 
APL symbols on it. Because I use APL on Linux.



>
> By the time C came along that excuse was even less viable.
>
>
> --
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> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on 
> behalf of John McKown 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2019 12:50 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Where put the notional constant in a condition (Was RE: 
> JCL COND Parameter)
>
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 11:23 AM Steve Smith  wrote:
>
> > The original sin was making "=" the assignment operator.  I guess we 
> > can blame that on FORTRAN, and it must make mathematicians cringe still.
> >
>
> I haven't said anything, but I think you're correct. Of course, in the 
> "bad old days" of punch cards, there weren't a whole lot of choices. 
> For these types of languages, where = can mean either comparison or 
> assignment, I like to code comparisons with literals with the literal 
> on the left hand side. E.g. IF 0 = X THEN rather than IF X = 0 THEN.
>
>
>
> >
> > sas
> >
> >
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AW: Breaking text file at position 72?

[Mike Beer]

Any XEDIT compatible editor (e.g. THE) should do this with a few commands

ZONE 1 72
FLOW
FILE

Best regards
Mike

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Betreff: Re: Breaking text file at position 72?

Oh, I did it as a primary command because I wanted it done to the entire
file.

I would need to do on each line. Not out of the question.

I have been sent a Notepad++ answer off-list that involves Regex and looks
the best so far:

->  Find (.{1,72})(\h+\R?|\R) -> Replace \1\r\n

Thank you -- you know who you are.

Charles


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On Mon, 10 Dec 2018, at 17:13, Charles Mills wrote:
> Perhaps a command that is local to your site?
> 
> IKJ56500I COMMAND TF72 NOT FOUND

That IKJ implies TSO attempted to process the command which suggests to me
you maybe entered "TSO TF72".

TF is an ispf edit command, to be entered in the command area to the left of
the line where you want text flow to start.

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AW: SYSLOG / OPERLOG displaying date.

[Mike Beer]

There is an ISO standard for the date:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601

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Betreff: Re: SYSLOG / OPERLOG displaying date.

Knowing which date format you are viewing is always a pain for me - some system 
I support have mm/dd/yy and others have dd/mm/yy, and still others use yy/mm/dd.

I prefer, where possible, to us a 3 char MONTH abbreviation.  

Then  you know which is the MONTH.

and use a 4 digit YEAR.

leaving only a 2 or 3 digit day value.

Easy

Tom Brennan's Vista TN3270 allows such on the status line.

&trantime %d/%b/%Y.%j %I:%M%p &hostaddr &hostname


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AW: Netview Submit JCL

[Mike Beer]

Hi,
You have an uneven number of " and ' in your command.
" or ' have to be in pairs. They can be nested, if necessary.

Best regards
Mike

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Hello Lucas,

Your solution worked for me

"SUBMIT 'USR1.REXX.CNTL(REXXJCL)'" .

Now, I am trying to issue tso send command using this rexx  as below using 
netview but i am getting below errror


/*  REXX */

 ADDRESS TSO

 SAY 'HELLO WORLD!'

 "SEND ''FD FILE HAS BEEN RECEIVED' USER(USR54) NOW'"



Error

EF404I USR54 LC - ENDED - TIME=14.29.07

HELLO WORLD!

 4 *-* "SEND ''FDI FILE HAS BEEN RECEIVED' USER( USR54 )

   +++ RC(-3) +++



I am unable to find correct syntax for this. I didnt find anything in manual . 
Can you please help.



On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 7:14 PM, Lucas Rosalen 
wrote:

> Try changing FDIREXX script to the following:
>
> /* REXX */
>
> "SUBMIT 'USR1.REXX.CNTL(REXXJCL)'"
>
>
> 
> ---
> *Lucas Rosalen*
> rosalen.lu...@gmail.com / lucas.rosal...@ibm.com 
> http://br.linkedin.com/in/lrosalen
>
>
> 2018-05-12 12:57 GMT-03:00 Steve Horein :
>
> > SUBMIT is a native NetView command, and you don't need (or want) to 
> > use ADDRESS TSO.
> > https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSZJDU_6.2.1/
> > com.ibm.itnetviewforzos.doc_6.2.1/dqc_submit.htm
> >
> > Specifics to NetView Rexx can be found here:
> > https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSZJDU_6.2.1/
> > com.ibm.itnetviewforzos.doc_6.2.1/dqgmst.htm
> >
> >
> > Specifics to NetView Automation can be found here:
> > https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSZJDU_6.2.1/
> > com.ibm.itnetviewforzos.doc_6.2.1/dqamst.htm
> >
> >
> > On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 9:46 AM, venkat kulkarni < 
> > venkatkulkarn...@gmail.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello Group,
> > >
> > > We have requirement to trigger one Job upon receiving one msg id  
> > > like below in
> > >
> > >
> > > netview automation table.
> > >
> > >
> > > IF MSGID = 'IEF404I'  THEN
> > >
> > >  EXEC(CMD('FDIREXX')) NETLOG(Y) SYSLOG(Y);
> > >
> > >
> > > in CNMCLST, we have FDIREXX member as below.
> > >
> > > sss
> > >
> > > BROWSENETVIEW.CNMCLST(FDIREXX) - 01.08
> > >
> > > * Top of Data **
> > >
> > > /*  REXX */
> > >
> > >  ADDRESS TSO
> > >
> > >  SUBMIT 'USR1.REXX.CNTL(REXXJCL)'
> > >
> > >  Bottom of Data
> > >
> > > On this event trigger,I am getting below error message in netview 
> > > log
> > >
> > >
> > > 13:35:50 - CNM493I DSITBL01 : #241 : FDIREXX
> > >
> > > 13:35:50 E IEF404I USR1LC - ENDED - TIME=13.35.50
> > >
> > > 13:35:50 C  3 *-* SUBMIT 'USR1.REXX.CNTL(REXXJCL)'
> > >
> > > 13:35:50 C+++ RC(-3) +++
> > >
> > > 13:35:57 C BR NETLOGA
> > >
> > >
> > > and JCL as below.
> > >
> > >   USR1.REXX.CNTL(REXXJCL) - 01.04
> > >
> > > * Top of Data **
> > >
> > > //USRSYS JOB (660),VENKAT,CLASS=A,NOTIFY=&SYSUID
> > >
> > > //STEP010  EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01,REGION=0M
> > >
> > > //SYSEXEC  DD DSN=USR1.REXX.CNTL,DISP=SHR
> > >
> > > //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=*
> > >
> > > //SYSTSIN  DD *
> > >
> > >  %SAMPLE
> > >
> > >
> > > and rexx as below
> > >
> > >  USR1.REXX.CNTL(SAMPLE) - 01.01
> > >
> > > * Top of Dat
> > >
> > > /*  REXX */
> > >
> > >  SAY 'HELLO WORLD!'
> > >
> > >  Bottom of D
> > >
> > >
> > > I am not sure, where I made any mistake in this process.
> > >
> > > Can you please help.
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AW: Theology (was: Many arguments to a Rexx function call)

[Mike Beer]

You could also provide data as XML or JSON objects - which is just a string
input for a REXX function.

No matter of theology - just what kind of data you have and what makes
sense.

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Mike

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I don't think there is a theological boundary: 7 arguments good, 8 arguments
bad.

Your example strikes me as pretty clear. OTOH

Myfunc(true, true, false, true, false, false)

is probably a bug waiting to happen, and it has only six arguments.

Charles


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Subject: Theology (was: Many arguments to a Rexx function call)

David Crayford:

>If the code doesn't have to be supported by a human then you might be
right. 

>If it does then nope! Code that is generated by a program is usually 
>the

>output of a compiler that generates object code that we generally don't

>care about until we need to debug it. If a program generates REXX code 
>then

>it should generate good REXX code that doesn't have telescoping 
>function
arguments.

 

As a theological discussion, I find this interesting. Our case is like this
(and isn't Rexx, though it could be):

 

rc = somefunction(tuplecount, elementcount,

 thing1, data1, length1,

 thing2, data2, length2,

 thing3, data3, length3,

 thingn, datan, lengthn)

 

The tuplecount is the number of these triplets, and the elementcount is the
number of things in each datan. You can have up to 100 of these tuples.

 

Does that offend your sensibilities? I'm honestly curious-I generally agree
100% with your statement, but this feels like a maybe-exception.

 

If it helps, note that in this instance, each of the tuples are
different-that is, it's not like they could be combined, as they're pointing
to different data types of different lengths. And there is also an API that
handles essentially one item:

 

rc = somefunction(thing, data, length)

 

Obviously the same idea as the first one with tuplecount and elementcount
both set to 1.

 

I've been doing this for almost 40 years, but am not a Computer Science
graduate by any means, so I'm always interested in the theology behind this
stuff, and where it does and doesn't apply.

 

Cheers,

 

.phsiii


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AW: Mainframe videos?

[Mike Beer]

Unfortunately mostly in german:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TERZ2DIp4hY



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William Donzelli
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For the break:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RowwNXKEt4k

A good video to close with:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63ot5h08rKg

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On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 8:01 AM, Mike Beer  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> TAPES:
> UNIVAC TAPE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KuoZ6cades
> Overland: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCBxNhEzIfc
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEL8wnW5uvs
>
> 1401: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O-UaHAWVKU
> After 4:30: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIjgZhAjQS4
>
> PUNCHED CARDS:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQueCt114Gk
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXE6HjN8heg
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnnGbcM-H8c
>
>
>
> Best regards
>
> Mike
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  Im 
> Auftrag von Sean Gleann
> Gesendet: 08 April, 2018 12:48
> An: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Betreff: Mainframe videos?
>
> Hello
>
> I am currently tasked with presenting a series of talks on the general 
> subject of 'mainframes' from a historical perspective.
>
> I can find plenty of pictures and movies of 360 front panels, various disk 
> drive models and printers, but try as I might, I have been unable to track 
> down any movies of a 2501 or 2540 actually in operation.
> Equally, there's very little available regarding open-reel tape drives.
>
> Trying to describe how these things worked in detail without a movie to watch 
> is stretching my abilities a bit.
> I'm hoping to find the kind of movie files that might be classified as 
> 'operator training' (or perhaps 'engineer training').
>
> If anyone knows of a collection of such files somewhere, I'd appreciate being 
> directed to it.
>
>
> TIA
> Sean
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[Mike Beer]

Hi,

TAPES:
UNIVAC TAPE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KuoZ6cades
Overland: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCBxNhEzIfc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEL8wnW5uvs

1401: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O-UaHAWVKU
After 4:30: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIjgZhAjQS4

PUNCHED CARDS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQueCt114Gk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXE6HjN8heg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnnGbcM-H8c



Best regards

Mike

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Sean Gleann
Gesendet: 08 April, 2018 12:48
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Betreff: Mainframe videos?

Hello

I am currently tasked with presenting a series of talks on the general subject 
of 'mainframes' from a historical perspective.

I can find plenty of pictures and movies of 360 front panels, various disk 
drive models and printers, but try as I might, I have been unable to track down 
any movies of a 2501 or 2540 actually in operation.
Equally, there's very little available regarding open-reel tape drives.

Trying to describe how these things worked in detail without a movie to watch 
is stretching my abilities a bit.
I'm hoping to find the kind of movie files that might be classified as 
'operator training' (or perhaps 'engineer training').

If anyone knows of a collection of such files somewhere, I'd appreciate being 
directed to it.


TIA
Sean

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AW: mainframe distribution

[Mike Beer]

https://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zvse/about/history1970s.html
more on VSE & BB (Boeblingen)
https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/38b9aea1-bdad-4dde-9984-fd18f65bb557/entry/Kein_Alter_49_Jahre_z_VSE?lang=en

Best regards

Mike


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Am 19.03.2018 um 10:52 schrieb R.S.:
> W dniu 2018-03-19 o 06:24, ITschak Mugzach pisze:
>> I wonder if anyone (vendors, maybe) has an insight into the mainframe 
>> market size:
>>
>> - number of sites
>> - vse vs zos
>> - continental distribution
>> - sectiors
>
> IBM?
> I'm pretty sure IBM is not wiling to share this information. Maybe 
> some companies like Gartner have some view, but they would want money 
> for that information.
>
> Small piece of info:
> Poland - 0,00 VSE installations. IMHO historically it was always 0.

There was one, when we helped to replace the ODRA machines at MPK Lodz (similar 
to British ICL machine,
George-3 operating system, IIRC)
with a VM 4381-12 running VM (DB2, Pascal) and VSE (CICS, DB2, COBOL) in the 
beginning of th 1990s. I was there two times,
1992 and 1994, to help with the installation and customization of the machine.

>
> Also, people say VSE is popular in UK and Germany.
>


Yes, indeed. VSE was IMO maintained to a large part in the Boeblingen lab, 
which is 10 km from where I live.

We had it at the Stuttgart public transportation company (SSB), which was the 
company which helped MPK (see above).
Stuttgart and Lodz are partner towns (jumelage in French, don't know the 
English expression).

Kind regards

Bernd

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AW: CGIs and HTML FORMs

[Mike Beer]

Hi,
There will be platform-specific considerations, but generally 
there are 2 ways to pass parameters to a webserver:
1) GET
2) POST

Get is easier to user:
If you have e.g. a userid and a password then the call could look like this:
https://...?user=&password=yyy

everything after the question mark is data that is passed to the program.

e.g.
https://program.rex?user=xxx&password=yyy

then "program.rex" could look like this:

/* program.rex */
Parse arg buf

Parse var buf "user=" userid "&password=" pw
/*there are many ways to parse this */

...
The REXX program is your CGI program in this case.
And yes, you could submit the data directly form this REXX with one of the
tools available on that platform (e.g. curl)
https://curl.haxx.se/

Best regards

Mike

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Hello,

I have a situation as follows;
1.   I have a URL going to a CGI and passing parms, i.e.
https://syst.humana.com/HUMcgitest/RICK3.sh?ODICT,POO4567891123456
2.  The CGI  reads a job from a PDS into a STEM and fills in the two
parms that were sent on the url.And Submits the job.
3.  Now, I have to make a change to allow a user to enter his employee
id.  In this case, we start with a CGI and go to a form.  I added  this to
the original CGI to create the form when the user clicks 'click here'.

say 'content-type: text/html'
say
say '  '
say 'Acknowledger Authentication '
say ' '
say ''
say ' Click here'
say ' '

My ODICTform3.htm  sends out a form with a space for user to enter employee
id.

Now, here's the part I'm having trouble with.
1.   I want the CGI to pass the parms in the URL above to the HTML .
HOW?
2.  Then,I want all three parms (two from URL and one from FORM to
be added to that job STEM that I created above.  HOW?
3.  Submit the job from the HTML or  do I send it back to the  CGI  to
submit or write a second CGI to submit the job.  HOW?

Thanks,
Mary Kay

Large Systems Engineering
IT Infrastructure
Humana
123 E. Main St. 40202  (CT6)
502-476-2772
mtube...@humana.com




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AW: curious: Popularity & use of C on z/OS.

[Mike Beer]

SIGNAL can be used nicely to jump out of a (nested) loop to go to a defined end 
point.
If you need to stay in a loop, you might consider using ITERATE or LEAVE.

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On 1/14/2018 11:35 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> REXX doesn't have a goto

Sure it does: SIGNAL

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www.well.com/~jax # thinking, a way of skeptically interrogating the universe 
www.softwoehr.com # with a fine understanding of human fallibility. - Carl Sagan

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Watson - was: IBM does what IBM does best

[Mike Beer]

> WATSON , we don’t know too much [...]  how easily it is to use as a 
> programmer that is.

Our company (mindcoa.ch) created a solution based on Watson APIs.  We 
participated in the global IBM Watson Build contest and were able to 
demonstrate a working
Prototype within a very short time. It is a collection of different APIs that 
are documented with a lot of additional material around (toolkits, samples, 
videos).
Many of them are REST-APIs or web sockets.
The services are grouped in categories and can be easily be learned and 
deployed.
We were also able to leverage a large REXX/Regina framework to work with the 
Watson APIs.

Best regards
Mike



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> On Nov 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Jack J. Woehr  wrote:
> 
> On 11/29/2017 2:56 PM, Edward Gould wrote:
>>> IBM is going to produce the first marketable Quantum Computer.
>> And who is going to buy it? The people interesting in WATSON … maybe. There 
>> is blood in the water.
> 
> Famously, Thomas J. Watson, Jr. said around 1950 "Nobody's going to buy 
> computers. The whole world will need about four of them.”

Yes and I have heard the story about gates and more than 64K.

I suspect that as long as MVS or Z/OS is around it will be hard to get around 
the bottle necks that are built in to the OS. Hell look at TSO, (I won’t go 
there) IBM long ago lost the talent they had and it is pretty much a black hole 
as nobody understand the internals anymore. Watson does seem to have lifted the 
bottle necks and really can do multi tasking in its own way. 

IBM did a poor job in documenting TSO internals and we are now seeing the 
results as there are extremely few (if any) new products that areTSO oriented.
I could be wrong on this but I think that SDSF was the last new product IBM 
offered that was too based.

But getting back to WATSON , we don’t know too much on how it works and how 
easily it is to use as a programmer that is.

Ed

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Re: SEC System - Edgar

[Mike Beer]

Hi
EDGAR was a fullscreen editor on VM/CMS - the predecessor to XEDIT.
https://www-01.ibm.com/events/wwe/grp/grp019.nsf/vLookupPDFs/7%20-%20VM-45-J
ahreHistory-EA-J-Elliott%20%5BKompatibilit%C3%A4tsmodus%5D/$file/7%20-%20VM-
45-JahreHistory-EA-J-Elliott%20%5BKompatibilit%C3%A4tsmodus%5D.pdf

Best regards
Mike

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Subject: Re: SEC System - Edgar

> On Sep 21, 2017, at 6:05 AM, Rob Schramm  wrote:
> 
> https://sites.nationalacademies.org/cs/groups/cstbsite/documents/webpa
> ge/cstb_042463.pdf
> indicates
> that Lexis Nexis was the backend.  But there was a plan for 
> modernization and to reduce a perceived monopoly by Lexis Nexis by 
> using COTS and free software.
> 
> Rob Schramm

Rob,
Thanks for the overview. But after reading half of it the only thing I got
out of it was that they are still using dial up modems.
That to me signals its a PC based system.
Somewhere along the line I thought EDGAR was a IBM mainframe product, I
guess not.

Ed
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Re: Question about question

[Mike Beer]

You might want to try REXXLA - the Rexx Language Association

Best regards

Mike

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Subject: Question about question

Where is the best place to post a question about REXX and SDSF coding and 
usage? I have some code that I have written and it’s not working "correctly".

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Re: Migration of Mainframe to other plat form.

[Mike Beer]

Another way to look at is by evaluating:

1) your software inventory - what is installed on the host and what is 
really used
 some applications might run on a smaller machine (something like a 
LinuxOne)

2) talk to your IBM sales rep (enterprise software)
3) consider different scenarios:
 - one without any mainframe (but you need to come up with a 
complete calculation - including the migration/reprogramming effort,
   higher sysadmin costs (more servers=> more people), higher power 
consumption, more points of failure,...

- one with a mixed operation: i.e. mainframe + (some) intel servers
- complete consolidation of ALL/MOST servers to the mainframe

There is a lot literature on that - especially IBM redbooks.

http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redpapers/pdfs/redp0222.pdf
https://de.scribd.com/document/249244362/S-390-Server-Consolidation-A-Guide-for-IT-Managers

But any sound decision should be based on a business case.
Most offloading proposals ignore large parts of the operation - running 
a PL/I or COBOL program on a PC is easy,

to run your complete business on a PC is completely different story.

Mike

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Re: Mainframe JOBS in Austin

[Mike Beer]

IBM is currently moving the people back to the office.
No more remote work.

Mike

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Re: 3270 emulator display/translation oddity with windows 10

[Mike Beer]

there are some very good emulators available on sourceforge.
I like wc3270

http://x3270.sourceforge.net/

Mike

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Re: Check out Massive Amazon cloud service outage disrupts sites

[Mike Beer]

When I see things like this I am always amazed how IT has changed.
Acting like that in the previous century was not the way professionals 
worked.

Of course, there was a test, development and production environment.

But what really puzzled me was that billing did not work in the way they 
had expected it to be.

Architecture? Application Design? Sizing? Testing???
Or is it just coding nowadays?

Mike

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Re: Check out Massive Amazon cloud service outage disrupts sites

[Mike Beer]

​>Ah, probably happened when the floor maintenance technician (janitor 
inold-speak) repurposed a electrical outlet.​


Usually large datacenters test their emergency procedures (at least once 
a year) - unfortunately the redundant power supply does not always work. 
And some servers might not resume work automatically...


Mike

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Re: Fujitsu Mainframe Vs IBM mainframe

[Mike Beer]

If I remember correctly - the Siemens (later Fujitsu Siemens) offering 
was "BS2000".


Mike

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Re: IBM LinuxONE Rockhopper

[Mike Beer]

Timothy,
thank you for your detailed answer.
As a former IBMer I still love mainframes. I started working on a 
370/158 some years ago..
Having been in marketing for quite some time (e.g. S/390)  I know how 
difficult it is to do global marketing.
I think everyone here in this group wants the IBM mainframe be / stay 
successful.

People here in this group are asking valid questions, I think.

However look at it from the outside:
- some of the references you mentioned talk about Linux on z, which is 
fine - but NOT about LinuxONE
  (why not have a linuxone page where you can find all relevant 
information - including references?

   http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/linuxone/ could be a good starting point)
- for the LinuxONE community page: when you try to register (i.e. fill 
in the form completely) you may get told that the program is not 
available in your country: 
https://linuxone20.cloud.marist.edu/cloud/#/register
- when an IBMer tells a prospective business partner that ALL z 
certifications are necessary to become LinuxONE partner
- when you have sales leads for LinuxONE, but no one is interested, 
because people are measured on Watson and Bluemix


There seems to be some room for improvement...

Mike

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Re: IBM LinuxONE Rockhopper

[Mike Beer]

z/VM still consists of CP + CMS:

Use the control program (CP) command language when:
- You are a z/VM system operator and you want to control the resources 
of the real machine

   located in your computer room.
- You are a virtual machine user and you want to control your virtual 
machine’s configuration and environment.


Use a virtual machine command language when:
- You are communicating with the operating system you loaded into your 
virtual machine.




http://www.vm.ibm.com/pubs/hcse4b01.pdf

Mike

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Re: IBM LinuxONE Rockhopper

[Mike Beer]

The IBM Q4 results do not mention LinuxONE at all.
If it would be reported as z revenue, it should be there, but:
Systems gross margin was up year to year due to
-*both improvement in z margins, and**
**-**the relative strength in that higher margin business.**
*That does not look like LinuxONE.
Interestingly you do not find * * * ANY * * * customer reference on an 
IBM page.


So it is either bad marketing or no customers...


https://www.ibm.com/investor/att/pdf/IBM-4Q16-Earnings-Prepared-Remarks.pdf

Systems Segment
Our Systems revenue reflects growth in z Systems, offset by declines in 
Power and storage as we continue to address shifting markets. Systems 
gross margin was up year to year due to both improvement in z margins, 
and the relative strength in that higher margin business. In z Systems, 
we delivered 4 percent revenue growth, double-digit growth in MIPs, and 
we expanded our margins. These results reflect our continued success in 
driving innovation in our core systems. The mainframe is optimized for 
mobile and security, and is constantly being redesigned to drive new 
workloads, including instant payments and the emerging blockchain. Eight 
quarters into the cycle, we added 8 new clients in the quarter, 29 for 
the year and 80 since inception. New client adoption at this stage in 
our cycle further validates our clients’ perceived value and their 
ongoing commitment to the IBM platform. Clients are investing heavily to 
meet the demands for future growth. I mentioned earlier the strength we 
had in China. We closed significant z Systems deals in the quarter, 
including two large Chinese banks migrating their mainframe install base 
to our latest z13 technology. And in Europe we are helping our clients 
manage new requirements in the rapidly evolving area of financial 
services modernization. We had four wins in the quarter on instant 
payments. Given the critical nature of the European financial services 
backbone, TARGET2-Securities, or T2S, has been deployed on IBM z Systems 
to provide the necessary reliability, scalability and IT security. 
Overall, the mainframe continues to deliver a high value, secure and 
scalable platform that is critical in managing our clients’ complex 
environments.



system z - success stories do not mention LinuxONE:
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/success/

***
* BUT *
***

I found * * * ONE * * * customer reference in JAPAN:
https://www.finextra.com/pressarticle/67491/japans-aplus-selects-ibm-linuxone-for-credit-card-processing

and another one from China:
https://mainframedebate.com/2016/04/14/linuxone-china-and-trains-a-winning-combination/

IBM should display them on their website... if they want to sell real 
systems (instead of unclear visions)


And SUSE has some references (e.g. Air India):

   https://www.suse.com/success/
   (maybe Mark Post can comment on them)


Red Hat does not seem to have LinuxONE references.
The same seems to be true for Canonical/Ubuntu.


Mike


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Re: IBM LinuxONE Rockhopper

[Mike Beer]

Just found a marketing background story on LinuxONE

http://www.centerline.net/client-stories/building-a-custom-product-and-brand-to-connect-with-a-new-audience/

Mike

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Re: IBM LinuxONE Rockhopper

[Mike Beer]

Don't know about the rockhopper, but we cabled up an emperor a few months ago.  
  Looks just the same as the z13s sitting beside it.
To my knowledge they are the same. It was a great marketing idea to 
rebrand it.

(Why they chose the name of company with bad reputation remains unclear:
http://www.fool.com/portfolios/rulemaker/2000/rulemaker000106.htm )

Unfortunately LinuxOne is as difficult to configure and to sell for a 
business partner as traditional mainframes.
Last year IBM also required the same skill set from a business partner 
(e.g. z/OS certfication) for a machine that is "only linux".


Mike

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Re: IBM LinuxONE Rockhopper

[Mike Beer]

Link to some pricing info:

https://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?subtype=SP&infotype=PM&htmlfid=LUS12345USEN&attachment=LUS12345USEN.PDF

Mike

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Re: IBM-MAIN subscription (was HMC Mail domain)

[Mike Beer]

There is a lot of things that can happen:

- the sender may be blacklisted (i.e. sending IP-address is 
automatically rejected)
- reverse DNS lookup does not work (i.e. symbolical name does not match 
IP address)

- no or incorrect SPF-entry (sender policy framework)
- other local filters may interpret mail as spam and reject..

and some more...

sending and receiving emails can get quite complex...

Best regards

Mike

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Re: Old MVS/SP

[Mike Beer]

You might want to look here:

http://hercules-390.github.io/html/


Am 22.12.2016 um 17:14 schrieb W Mainframe:

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!important; } Guys,
Anyone is running a MVS/SP in some kind of emulator?
Dan


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Re: LzLabs in ComputerWorld - Multiprise 3000

[Mike Beer]

http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/rep_ca/0/897/ENUS199-240/


Am 13.12.2016 um 22:44 schrieb Tony Harminc:

On 13 December 2016 at 13:10, Pommier, Rex  wrote:

Tony, one correction to your comments.  The H70 was the two-way machine.  The 
H50 was the full speed uni, and the
H30 was a knee-capped uni.

Ah - you are quite right. And the P30 was the PWD machine, which did
not change its model number when (effectively) converted to an H50 by
the Linux add-on. There was never a P50 or P70, to my knowledge.

Tony H.

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