Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset

[venkat kulkarni]

Hello All,

Finally problem has been resolved and solution is,

Basically , even though we specify 15 min or 1 hr etc in jeslog spin
command, there is no mechanism in jes2 to trigger SPIN.

So, Whenever any new message comes in JESMSGLG and JESMSGSG, then jes2
check  spin parameter value and see if time interval we specified is over ,
if yes then it start spin process...



Thanks for all help.

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 5:31 PM, Lizette Koehler <stars...@mindspring.com>
wrote:

> A $S with nothing else is to Start JES2 Processing.  Please review the
> JES2 Commands manual for what it does.
>
> If you are not the system programmer, you need to work with that team at
> your shop.  When you change the STC Class in the JES2 INIT DECK, it is
> changed for ALL STCs.  This could impact space in your SPOOL and CKPT
> dataset for JES2.
>
> If you have a Sandbox to work in, you will need to work with the commands
> and see how each works.
>
> The JES2 COMMANDS manual can be helpful when learning new functions in
> JES2.
>
> The JES2 INIT and TUNING Reference can be helpful when learning new
> functions.
>
> Working with your z/OS System programmer can be helpful when setting up
> new functions.
>
>
> Lizette
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> > Behalf Of venkat kulkarni
> > Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 9:55 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset
> >
> > Hello Lizette,
> >
> > So, After modifying STC job class JES2 Log parameter with spin, i will
> have
> > to use $S command to start this process.
> >
> > Please suggest, as I have not used this before.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > On 14-May-2017 3:09 PM, "venkat kulkarni" <venkatkulkarn...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > 1) Finally, we wanted all STC JES DD to be spin off at morning 9 AM
> daily.
> > >
> > > 2) So, I set my STC Job class to
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > RESPONSE=TST1
> > >
> > >   $HASP837 JOBCLASS(STC)
> > >
> > >   $HASP837 JOBCLASS(STC)   AUTH=(ALL),BLP=YES,COMMAND=EXECUTE,
> > >
> > >   $HASP837 CONDPURG=YES,DSENQSHR=ALLOW,
> > >
> > >   $HASP837 IEFUJP=YES,IEFUSO=YES,JESLOG=(SPIN,
> > >
> > >   $HASP837 +0:15),LOG=YES,MSGLEVEL=(1,1),
> > >
> > >   $HASP837 MSGCLASS=Z,OUTDISP=(HOLD,HOLD),
> > >
> > >   $HASP837 OUTPUT=YES,PERFORM=000,PROCLIB=00,
> > >
> > >   $HASP837 QAFF=(ANY),REGION=0004M,SWA=BELOW,
> > >
> > >   $HASP837 TIME=(000120,00),TYPE26=YES,
> > >
> > >   $HASP837 TYPE6=YES
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 3) My MSGCLASS Z is set to
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > RESPONSE=TST1
> > >
> > >  $HASP842 OUTCLASS(Z)
> > >
> > >  $HASP842 OUTCLASS(Z)  OUTPUT=PRINT,BLNKTRNC=YES,
> > >
> > >  $HASP842  OUTDISP=(PURGE,HOLD),TRKCELL=NO
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 3) After all this above changes, I restarted my one of the STC task ,
> > > IMS address space to test and result is
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > a) I am able to spin JES DD manually by using "W" command or by using
> > > /$T JQ(IMS12IMS),SPIN,DDNAME=JESMSGLG command and I can see output in
> > > held queue.
> > >
> > > b) But if you look at changes, I made above in my JESLOG parameter in
> > > STC class to start spin in every 15 min, it’s not starting. I am not
> > > able to find root cause of this issue now.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I want to know that what more I am missing to start this automated
> > > SPIN working for my all STC task
> > >
> > > On 12-May-2017 5:05 PM, "venkat kulkarni" <venkatkulkarn...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Thanks and I made all these suggested changes in stc class jes
> > >> parmlib member.
> > >> But to take this in effect, do I need to restart the address space or
> > >> it will pick up these new value automatically after changing stc
> > >> class using $T command.
> > >>
>
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Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset

[Lizette Koehler]

A $S with nothing else is to Start JES2 Processing.  Please review the JES2 
Commands manual for what it does. 

If you are not the system programmer, you need to work with that team at your 
shop.  When you change the STC Class in the JES2 INIT DECK, it is changed for 
ALL STCs.  This could impact space in your SPOOL and CKPT dataset for JES2.

If you have a Sandbox to work in, you will need to work with the commands and 
see how each works.

The JES2 COMMANDS manual can be helpful when learning new functions in JES2.

The JES2 INIT and TUNING Reference can be helpful when learning new functions.

Working with your z/OS System programmer can be helpful when setting up new 
functions.


Lizette

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of venkat kulkarni
> Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 9:55 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset
> 
> Hello Lizette,
> 
> So, After modifying STC job class JES2 Log parameter with spin, i will have
> to use $S command to start this process.
> 
> Please suggest, as I have not used this before.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> On 14-May-2017 3:09 PM, "venkat kulkarni" <venkatkulkarn...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > 1) Finally, we wanted all STC JES DD to be spin off at morning 9 AM daily.
> >
> > 2) So, I set my STC Job class to
> >
> >
> >
> > RESPONSE=TST1
> >
> >   $HASP837 JOBCLASS(STC)
> >
> >   $HASP837 JOBCLASS(STC)   AUTH=(ALL),BLP=YES,COMMAND=EXECUTE,
> >
> >   $HASP837 CONDPURG=YES,DSENQSHR=ALLOW,
> >
> >   $HASP837 IEFUJP=YES,IEFUSO=YES,JESLOG=(SPIN,
> >
> >   $HASP837 +0:15),LOG=YES,MSGLEVEL=(1,1),
> >
> >   $HASP837 MSGCLASS=Z,OUTDISP=(HOLD,HOLD),
> >
> >   $HASP837 OUTPUT=YES,PERFORM=000,PROCLIB=00,
> >
> >   $HASP837 QAFF=(ANY),REGION=0004M,SWA=BELOW,
> >
> >   $HASP837 TIME=(000120,00),TYPE26=YES,
> >
> >   $HASP837 TYPE6=YES
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 3) My MSGCLASS Z is set to
> >
> >
> >
> > RESPONSE=TST1
> >
> >  $HASP842 OUTCLASS(Z)
> >
> >  $HASP842 OUTCLASS(Z)  OUTPUT=PRINT,BLNKTRNC=YES,
> >
> >  $HASP842  OUTDISP=(PURGE,HOLD),TRKCELL=NO
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 3) After all this above changes, I restarted my one of the STC task ,
> > IMS address space to test and result is
> >
> >
> >
> > a) I am able to spin JES DD manually by using "W" command or by using
> > /$T JQ(IMS12IMS),SPIN,DDNAME=JESMSGLG command and I can see output in
> > held queue.
> >
> > b) But if you look at changes, I made above in my JESLOG parameter in
> > STC class to start spin in every 15 min, it’s not starting. I am not
> > able to find root cause of this issue now.
> >
> >
> >
> > I want to know that what more I am missing to start this automated
> > SPIN working for my all STC task
> >
> > On 12-May-2017 5:05 PM, "venkat kulkarni" <venkatkulkarn...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks and I made all these suggested changes in stc class jes
> >> parmlib member.
> >> But to take this in effect, do I need to restart the address space or
> >> it will pick up these new value automatically after changing stc
> >> class using $T command.
> >>

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Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset

[venkat kulkarni]

Hello Lizette,

So, After modifying STC job class JES2 Log parameter with spin, i will have
to use $S command to start this process.

Please suggest, as I have not used this before.

Thanks

On 14-May-2017 3:09 PM, "venkat kulkarni" <venkatkulkarn...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> 1) Finally, we wanted all STC JES DD to be spin off at morning 9 AM daily.
>
> 2) So, I set my STC Job class to
>
>
>
> RESPONSE=TST1
>
>   $HASP837 JOBCLASS(STC)
>
>   $HASP837 JOBCLASS(STC)   AUTH=(ALL),BLP=YES,COMMAND=EXECUTE,
>
>   $HASP837 CONDPURG=YES,DSENQSHR=ALLOW,
>
>   $HASP837 IEFUJP=YES,IEFUSO=YES,JESLOG=(SPIN,
>
>   $HASP837 +0:15),LOG=YES,MSGLEVEL=(1,1),
>
>   $HASP837 MSGCLASS=Z,OUTDISP=(HOLD,HOLD),
>
>   $HASP837 OUTPUT=YES,PERFORM=000,PROCLIB=00,
>
>   $HASP837 QAFF=(ANY),REGION=0004M,SWA=BELOW,
>
>   $HASP837 TIME=(000120,00),TYPE26=YES,
>
>   $HASP837 TYPE6=YES
>
>
>
>
>
> 3) My MSGCLASS Z is set to
>
>
>
> RESPONSE=TST1
>
>  $HASP842 OUTCLASS(Z)
>
>  $HASP842 OUTCLASS(Z)  OUTPUT=PRINT,BLNKTRNC=YES,
>
>  $HASP842  OUTDISP=(PURGE,HOLD),TRKCELL=NO
>
>
>
>
>
> 3) After all this above changes, I restarted my one of the STC task , IMS
> address space to test and result is
>
>
>
> a) I am able to spin JES DD manually by using "W" command or by using /$T
> JQ(IMS12IMS),SPIN,DDNAME=JESMSGLG command and I can see output in held
> queue.
>
> b) But if you look at changes, I made above in my JESLOG parameter in STC
> class to start spin in every 15 min, it’s not starting. I am not able to
> find root cause of this issue now.
>
>
>
> I want to know that what more I am missing to start this automated SPIN
> working for my all STC task
>
> On 12-May-2017 5:05 PM, "venkat kulkarni" <venkatkulkarn...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks and I made all these suggested changes in stc class jes parmlib
>> member.
>> But to take this in effect, do I need to restart the address space or it
>> will pick up these new value automatically after changing stc class using
>> $T command.
>>
>> On 12-May-2017 3:38 PM, "Lizette Koehler" <stars...@mindspring.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> JESLOG can be coded in the JES2 INIT DECK.  It is not part of JCL.
>>>
>>> Check your JES2 INITDECK to see how your JOBCLASS(STC) is coded.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Starting the STC with SPIN= is also helpful to spin all JES2 jcl DDs.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Either or both can be used.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Review the JES2 INIT and TUNING manuals referenced early to see what you
>>> want to do.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Lizette
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* venkat kulkarni [mailto:venkatkulkarn...@gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Friday, May 12, 2017 12:55 AM
>>> *To:* IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu>; Lizette
>>> Koehler <stars...@mindspring.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Lizette,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for reply. I will add JESLOG=SPIN in my proc. But one of my
>>> query still answered that do we need to recycle address space after
>>> changing STC class outdisp paramter to write,write  to make this spin work
>>> . Or can we do it dynamically without shutting down address space.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 10:05 AM, Lizette Koehler <
>>> stars...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> So the best option would be to do
>>>
>>> 1)  Check the STC in the JES2 Class and see if JESLOG=SPIN is included.
>>>
>>> 2)  Start the STC with the SPIN Option
>>>
>>> JESLOG=
>>> Specifies for the indicated jobclass that each job's JESLOG data
>>> (JESMSGLG and JESYSMSG data sets) is to be spun at a certain time interval,
>>> suppressed from being recorded, or not spun at all.
>>> Note: Specifying JESLOG=SPIN will cause a job in this class to use
>>> at least 2 additional track groups of SPOOL space for the two JESLOG data
>>> sets (JESMSGLG or JESYSMSG ). If this

Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset

[venkat kulkarni]

Hello Steve,

So, After modifying STC job class JES2 Log parameter with spin, i will have
to use $S command to start this process.

Please suggest, as I have not used this before.

Thanks

On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Steve Horein 
wrote:

> Regarding item #1, absent any "formal" automation solution (CA OPS/MVS, IBM
> NetView, etc.), review the information found in these topics:
>
> https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.2.0/
> com.ibm.zos.v2r2.hasa200/sacp.htm
>
> https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.2.0/
> com.ibm.zos.v2r2.hasa200/dsmac.htm
>
> https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.2.0/
> com.ibm.zos.v2r2.hasa200/cac.htm
>
> https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.2.0/
> com.ibm.zos.v2r2.hasa200/hacp.htm
>
>
> On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 7:09 AM, venkat kulkarni <
> venkatkulkarn...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > 1) Finally, we wanted all STC JES DD to be spin off at morning 9 AM
> daily.
> >
> > 2) So, I set my STC Job class to
> >
> >
> >
> > RESPONSE=TST1
> >
> >   $HASP837 JOBCLASS(STC)
> >
> >   $HASP837 JOBCLASS(STC)   AUTH=(ALL),BLP=YES,COMMAND=EXECUTE,
> >
> >   $HASP837 CONDPURG=YES,DSENQSHR=ALLOW,
> >
> >   $HASP837 IEFUJP=YES,IEFUSO=YES,JESLOG=(SPIN,
> >
> >   $HASP837 +0:15),LOG=YES,MSGLEVEL=(1,1),
> >
> >   $HASP837 MSGCLASS=Z,OUTDISP=(HOLD,HOLD),
> >
> >   $HASP837 OUTPUT=YES,PERFORM=000,PROCLIB=00,
> >
> >   $HASP837 QAFF=(ANY),REGION=0004M,SWA=BELOW,
> >
> >   $HASP837 TIME=(000120,00),TYPE26=YES,
> >
> >   $HASP837 TYPE6=YES
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 3) My MSGCLASS Z is set to
> >
> >
> >
> > RESPONSE=TST1
> >
> >  $HASP842 OUTCLASS(Z)
> >
> >  $HASP842 OUTCLASS(Z)  OUTPUT=PRINT,BLNKTRNC=YES,
> >
> >  $HASP842  OUTDISP=(PURGE,HOLD),TRKCELL=NO
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 3) After all this above changes, I restarted my one of the STC task , IMS
> > address space to test and result is
> >
> >
> >
> > a) I am able to spin JES DD manually by using "W" command or by using /$T
> > JQ(IMS12IMS),SPIN,DDNAME=JESMSGLG command and I can see output in held
> > queue.
> >
> > b) But if you look at changes, I made above in my JESLOG parameter in STC
> > class to start spin in every 15 min, it’s not starting. I am not able to
> > find root cause of this issue now.
> >
> >
> >
> > I want to know that what more I am missing to start this automated SPIN
> > working for my all STC task
> >
> >
>
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Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset

[Steve Horein]

Regarding item #1, absent any "formal" automation solution (CA OPS/MVS, IBM
NetView, etc.), review the information found in these topics:

https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.hasa200/sacp.htm

https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.hasa200/dsmac.htm

https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.hasa200/cac.htm

https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.hasa200/hacp.htm


On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 7:09 AM, venkat kulkarni  wrote:

> 1) Finally, we wanted all STC JES DD to be spin off at morning 9 AM daily.
>
> 2) So, I set my STC Job class to
>
>
>
> RESPONSE=TST1
>
>   $HASP837 JOBCLASS(STC)
>
>   $HASP837 JOBCLASS(STC)   AUTH=(ALL),BLP=YES,COMMAND=EXECUTE,
>
>   $HASP837 CONDPURG=YES,DSENQSHR=ALLOW,
>
>   $HASP837 IEFUJP=YES,IEFUSO=YES,JESLOG=(SPIN,
>
>   $HASP837 +0:15),LOG=YES,MSGLEVEL=(1,1),
>
>   $HASP837 MSGCLASS=Z,OUTDISP=(HOLD,HOLD),
>
>   $HASP837 OUTPUT=YES,PERFORM=000,PROCLIB=00,
>
>   $HASP837 QAFF=(ANY),REGION=0004M,SWA=BELOW,
>
>   $HASP837 TIME=(000120,00),TYPE26=YES,
>
>   $HASP837 TYPE6=YES
>
>
>
>
>
> 3) My MSGCLASS Z is set to
>
>
>
> RESPONSE=TST1
>
>  $HASP842 OUTCLASS(Z)
>
>  $HASP842 OUTCLASS(Z)  OUTPUT=PRINT,BLNKTRNC=YES,
>
>  $HASP842  OUTDISP=(PURGE,HOLD),TRKCELL=NO
>
>
>
>
>
> 3) After all this above changes, I restarted my one of the STC task , IMS
> address space to test and result is
>
>
>
> a) I am able to spin JES DD manually by using "W" command or by using /$T
> JQ(IMS12IMS),SPIN,DDNAME=JESMSGLG command and I can see output in held
> queue.
>
> b) But if you look at changes, I made above in my JESLOG parameter in STC
> class to start spin in every 15 min, it’s not starting. I am not able to
> find root cause of this issue now.
>
>
>
> I want to know that what more I am missing to start this automated SPIN
> working for my all STC task
>
>

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Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset

[venkat kulkarni]

1) Finally, we wanted all STC JES DD to be spin off at morning 9 AM daily.

2) So, I set my STC Job class to



RESPONSE=TST1

  $HASP837 JOBCLASS(STC)

  $HASP837 JOBCLASS(STC)   AUTH=(ALL),BLP=YES,COMMAND=EXECUTE,

  $HASP837 CONDPURG=YES,DSENQSHR=ALLOW,

  $HASP837 IEFUJP=YES,IEFUSO=YES,JESLOG=(SPIN,

  $HASP837 +0:15),LOG=YES,MSGLEVEL=(1,1),

  $HASP837 MSGCLASS=Z,OUTDISP=(HOLD,HOLD),

  $HASP837 OUTPUT=YES,PERFORM=000,PROCLIB=00,

  $HASP837 QAFF=(ANY),REGION=0004M,SWA=BELOW,

  $HASP837 TIME=(000120,00),TYPE26=YES,

  $HASP837 TYPE6=YES





3) My MSGCLASS Z is set to



RESPONSE=TST1

 $HASP842 OUTCLASS(Z)

 $HASP842 OUTCLASS(Z)  OUTPUT=PRINT,BLNKTRNC=YES,

 $HASP842  OUTDISP=(PURGE,HOLD),TRKCELL=NO





3) After all this above changes, I restarted my one of the STC task , IMS
address space to test and result is



a) I am able to spin JES DD manually by using "W" command or by using /$T
JQ(IMS12IMS),SPIN,DDNAME=JESMSGLG command and I can see output in held
queue.

b) But if you look at changes, I made above in my JESLOG parameter in STC
class to start spin in every 15 min, it’s not starting. I am not able to
find root cause of this issue now.



I want to know that what more I am missing to start this automated SPIN
working for my all STC task

On 12-May-2017 5:05 PM, "venkat kulkarni" <venkatkulkarn...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks and I made all these suggested changes in stc class jes parmlib
> member.
> But to take this in effect, do I need to restart the address space or it
> will pick up these new value automatically after changing stc class using
> $T command.
>
> On 12-May-2017 3:38 PM, "Lizette Koehler" <stars...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> JESLOG can be coded in the JES2 INIT DECK.  It is not part of JCL.
>>
>> Check your JES2 INITDECK to see how your JOBCLASS(STC) is coded.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Starting the STC with SPIN= is also helpful to spin all JES2 jcl DDs.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Either or both can be used.
>>
>>
>>
>> Review the JES2 INIT and TUNING manuals referenced early to see what you
>> want to do.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Lizette
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* venkat kulkarni [mailto:venkatkulkarn...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Friday, May 12, 2017 12:55 AM
>> *To:* IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu>; Lizette
>> Koehler <stars...@mindspring.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello Lizette,
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for reply. I will add JESLOG=SPIN in my proc. But one of my query
>> still answered that do we need to recycle address space after changing STC
>> class outdisp paramter to write,write  to make this spin work . Or can we
>> do it dynamically without shutting down address space.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 10:05 AM, Lizette Koehler <
>> stars...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>> So the best option would be to do
>>
>> 1)  Check the STC in the JES2 Class and see if JESLOG=SPIN is included.
>>
>> 2)  Start the STC with the SPIN Option
>>
>> JESLOG=
>> Specifies for the indicated jobclass that each job's JESLOG data
>> (JESMSGLG and JESYSMSG data sets) is to be spun at a certain time interval,
>> suppressed from being recorded, or not spun at all.
>> Note: Specifying JESLOG=SPIN will cause a job in this class to use at
>> least 2 additional track groups of SPOOL space for the two JESLOG data sets
>> (JESMSGLG or JESYSMSG ). If this job class normally has a large number of
>> jobs that use a minimal amount of SPOOL space, then an increase of 2 track
>> groups could significantly increase SPOOL utilization. Consider these
>> additional SPOOL requirements when deciding whether to use JESLOG=SPIN.
>>
>> SPIN
>> Jobs running in this job class are 'spinnable'. $TJ,SPIN can
>> be used to immediately spin the JESMSGLG and JESYSMSG data sets.
>>
>> (SPIN,+hh:mm)
>> Indicates to spin JESLOG every hh:mm time interval.
>>
>> where:
>>
>> hh is hours and has a range of 0 through 23
>> mm is minutes and has a range of 00 through 59
>>
>> Note: You must specify a minimum of 10 minutes or JES2 issues
>> an error message. Also, for time intervals of less th

Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset

[venkat kulkarni]

Hello Lizette,

Thanks for reply. I will add JESLOG=SPIN in my proc. But one of my query
still answered that do we need to recycle address space after changing STC
class outdisp paramter to write,write  to make this spin work . Or can we
do it dynamically without shutting down address space.

On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 10:05 AM, Lizette Koehler <stars...@mindspring.com>
wrote:

> So the best option would be to do
>
> 1)  Check the STC in the JES2 Class and see if JESLOG=SPIN is included.
>
> 2)  Start the STC with the SPIN Option
>
> JESLOG=
> Specifies for the indicated jobclass that each job's JESLOG data
> (JESMSGLG and JESYSMSG data sets) is to be spun at a certain time interval,
> suppressed from being recorded, or not spun at all.
> Note: Specifying JESLOG=SPIN will cause a job in this class to use at
> least 2 additional track groups of SPOOL space for the two JESLOG data sets
> (JESMSGLG or JESYSMSG ). If this job class normally has a large number of
> jobs that use a minimal amount of SPOOL space, then an increase of 2 track
> groups could significantly increase SPOOL utilization. Consider these
> additional SPOOL requirements when deciding whether to use JESLOG=SPIN.
>
> SPIN
> Jobs running in this job class are 'spinnable'. $TJ,SPIN can
> be used to immediately spin the JESMSGLG and JESYSMSG data sets.
>
> (SPIN,+hh:mm)
> Indicates to spin JESLOG every hh:mm time interval.
>
> where:
>
> hh is hours and has a range of 0 through 23
> mm is minutes and has a range of 00 through 59
>
> Note: You must specify a minimum of 10 minutes or JES2 issues
> an error message. Also, for time intervals of less than one hour, you must
> specify the following format: JESLOG=(SPIN,+00:mm).
> (SPIN,hh:mm)
> Indicates to spin JESLOG at hh:mm every 24 hours.
> (SPIN,nnn)
> Indicates to spin JESLOG whenever either JESMSGLG or JESYSMSG
> has nnn lines.'nnn is the number (1–999) of lines in the data set.
> Note:
> You must specify a minimum of 500 lines or JES2 issues an
> error message.
> (SPIN,nnnK)
> Indicates to spin JESLOG whenever either JESMSGLG or JESYSMSG
> has "nnnK" lines, where "K" indicates thousands of lines.
> (SPIN,nnnM)
> Indicates to spin JESLOG whenever either JESMSGLG or JESYSMSG
> has "nnnM" lines, where "M" indicates millions of lines.
>
>
> Lizette
>
>
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> > Behalf Of venkat kulkarni
> > Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 9:37 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset
> >
> > Hello All,
> >
> > Finally I have good news. Today we performed below steps.
> >
> > 1) I changed my message class z out disp parameter to write,write and
> then
> > run spin command but still no oputut saved in output queue.
> >
> > 2) I restarted IMS address space and before running spin command against
> > jesmsglg dd, I verified that my stc class outdisp is set to write,write .
> > Now, when I run spin command, I get record in output queue with
> destination
> > local and this is what we were looking for u .
> >
> > But this whole excersice make me to conclude that
> >
> > a) any running address space will not accept new value of outdisp
> parameter
> > on stc class( or any other class) using dynamic command $t .
> > So, we will have to recycle address space to take this effect. This
> dynamic
> > command is only useful for new address space we start after we change
> > parameter using $t.
> >
> > b) when we use spin command with jes dd like jesmsglg etc, we will not
> get
> > successful completion message on console .
> >
> > 3) do we have any way to make this process successful without recycle of
> > address space .
> >
> > Thank you so much for all help .
> >
> > On 10-May-2017 11:48 PM, "Lizette Koehler" <stars...@mindspring.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > NOTE:  JES2 has a counter in the JCT.  Even if output is spun, it will
> > > not reduce that counter by what is spun.  The counter will continue to
> > > increase.  And it can increase until, the number of lines, exceeds
> > > what
> > > JES2 knows that should be produced which can cause a task to abend
> > > with a
> > > S722 abend.  No way around that other than cycling the tasks.
> > >
> > > I current

Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset

[Lizette Koehler]

So the best option would be to do 

1)  Check the STC in the JES2 Class and see if JESLOG=SPIN is included.

2)  Start the STC with the SPIN Option

JESLOG=
Specifies for the indicated jobclass that each job's JESLOG data (JESMSGLG 
and JESYSMSG data sets) is to be spun at a certain time interval, suppressed 
from being recorded, or not spun at all.
Note: Specifying JESLOG=SPIN will cause a job in this class to use at least 
2 additional track groups of SPOOL space for the two JESLOG data sets (JESMSGLG 
or JESYSMSG ). If this job class normally has a large number of jobs that use a 
minimal amount of SPOOL space, then an increase of 2 track groups could 
significantly increase SPOOL utilization. Consider these additional SPOOL 
requirements when deciding whether to use JESLOG=SPIN.

SPIN
Jobs running in this job class are 'spinnable'. $TJ,SPIN can be 
used to immediately spin the JESMSGLG and JESYSMSG data sets.

(SPIN,+hh:mm)
Indicates to spin JESLOG every hh:mm time interval.

where:

hh is hours and has a range of 0 through 23
mm is minutes and has a range of 00 through 59

Note: You must specify a minimum of 10 minutes or JES2 issues an 
error message. Also, for time intervals of less than one hour, you must specify 
the following format: JESLOG=(SPIN,+00:mm).
(SPIN,hh:mm)
Indicates to spin JESLOG at hh:mm every 24 hours.
(SPIN,nnn)
Indicates to spin JESLOG whenever either JESMSGLG or JESYSMSG has 
nnn lines.'nnn is the number (1–999) of lines in the data set.
Note:
You must specify a minimum of 500 lines or JES2 issues an error 
message.
(SPIN,nnnK)
Indicates to spin JESLOG whenever either JESMSGLG or JESYSMSG has 
"nnnK" lines, where "K" indicates thousands of lines.
(SPIN,nnnM)
Indicates to spin JESLOG whenever either JESMSGLG or JESYSMSG has 
"nnnM" lines, where "M" indicates millions of lines.


Lizette


> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of venkat kulkarni
> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 9:37 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Finally I have good news. Today we performed below steps.
> 
> 1) I changed my message class z out disp parameter to write,write and then
> run spin command but still no oputut saved in output queue.
> 
> 2) I restarted IMS address space and before running spin command against
> jesmsglg dd, I verified that my stc class outdisp is set to write,write .
> Now, when I run spin command, I get record in output queue with destination
> local and this is what we were looking for u .
> 
> But this whole excersice make me to conclude that
> 
> a) any running address space will not accept new value of outdisp parameter
> on stc class( or any other class) using dynamic command $t .
> So, we will have to recycle address space to take this effect. This dynamic
> command is only useful for new address space we start after we change
> parameter using $t.
> 
> b) when we use spin command with jes dd like jesmsglg etc, we will not get
> successful completion message on console .
> 
> 3) do we have any way to make this process successful without recycle of
> address space .
> 
> Thank you so much for all help .
> 
> On 10-May-2017 11:48 PM, "Lizette Koehler" <stars...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> 
> > NOTE:  JES2 has a counter in the JCT.  Even if output is spun, it will
> > not reduce that counter by what is spun.  The counter will continue to
> > increase.  And it can increase until, the number of lines, exceeds
> > what
> > JES2 knows that should be produced which can cause a task to abend
> > with a
> > S722 abend.  No way around that other than cycling the tasks.
> >
> > I currently have a task that is prone to S722 abends.  It is an STC
> > and it is now being cycled monthly to prevent an unexpected S722 abend.
> >
> >
> >
> > Spin - to copy/route the information in a SYSOUT DD statement to the
> > OUTPUT class specified by the SYSOUT statement.
> >
> > If your JES2 INITDECK says
> >
> > OUTPUT(A) OUTDISP=(HOLD,HOLD)
> >
> > You have
> > //DDlabel  DD SYSOUT=A
> >
> > Then the DDlabel:  $Txx,SPIN,DDNAME=DDlabel
> >
> > The output will show up in the HELD Class A queue.   So the H Panel in SDSF
> >
> > If you have coded in the JES2 INITDECK
> > OUTPUT(A) OUTDISP=(WRITE,WRITE)
> >
> > And you have
> > //DDLabel  DD SYSOUT=A
> >
> > The output will show up in the OUTPUT CLASS A.  

Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset

[venkat kulkarni]

> and operator messages about the job's processing: allocation of devices and
> volumes, execution and termination of job steps and the job, and
> disposition of data sets.
>
>
>
> You should talk to your friendly z/OS system programmer for assistance
> specific to your shop.
>
> Lizette
>
>
> -Original Message-
> >From: venkat kulkarni <venkatkulkarn...@gmail.com>
> >Sent: May 10, 2017 11:42 AM
> >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> >Subject: Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset
> >
> >Hello Lizette,
> >
> >Couple of important points,
> >
> >1) I am still not clear that, what happens when we run spin command  $T
> >job(ims12RC1),spin,ddname=JESMSGLG . Where messages goes from DD
> JESMSGLG  .
> >
> >In my case, when i run this command, it clear all record from DD JESMSGLG
> >but its not storing in output queue. But my requirement is that it should
> >keep those record in output queue after this spin command and from output
> >queue, we use some way to suck this output and archive it for later use.
> >
> >2) I have set my outdisp parameter to (write, write)  for this STC class
> >but still my records from this DD JESMSGLG  not coming to output queue.
> >Please help to provide some reason on this issue.
> >
> >3) When i run  $T job(ims12RC1),spin,ddname=JESMSGLG command, it start
> >processing this DD but i never get message saying successfully completed.
> I
> >waited for long but it never finish but I see my record becomes zero in
> >address space for this DD name.
> >
> >
> >I tried reading all document possible for this and couldnt find any help.
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset

[Lizette Koehler]

NOTE:  JES2 has a counter in the JCT.  Even if output is spun, it will not 
reduce that counter by what is spun.  The counter will continue to increase.  
And it can increase until, the number of lines, exceeds what JES2 knows that 
should be produced which can cause a task to abend with a S722 abend.  No way 
around that other than cycling the tasks.

I currently have a task that is prone to S722 abends.  It is an STC and it is 
now being cycled monthly to prevent an unexpected S722 abend.



Spin - to copy/route the information in a SYSOUT DD statement to the OUTPUT 
class specified by the SYSOUT statement.

If your JES2 INITDECK says

OUTPUT(A) OUTDISP=(HOLD,HOLD) 

You have
//DDlabel  DD SYSOUT=A

Then the DDlabel:  $Txx,SPIN,DDNAME=DDlabel

The output will show up in the HELD Class A queue.   So the H Panel in SDSF

If you have coded in the JES2 INITDECK 
OUTPUT(A) OUTDISP=(WRITE,WRITE)

And you have
//DDLabel  DD SYSOUT=A

The output will show up in the OUTPUT CLASS A.  So the O Panel in SDSF

Note:  If you do not CODE FREE=CLOSE,SPIN=UNALLOC You will NOT see the 
output 

The SPIN will not be available until TASK end.

The ST panel in SDSF can see everything available on Spool.

NOTE SYSOUT=* in a started task defaults the the STC definition in JES2.

Spin data set processing

z/OS JES2 Initialization and Tuning Guide
SA32-0991-00

Coding FREE=CLOSE or SPIN=UNALLOC in the JCL of a SYSOUT DD statement or 
specifying the DALCLOSE text unit key on a dynamic allocation (SVC99) parameter 
list for a SYSOUT data set causes JES2 to spin the data set for output 
processing when it is closed. JES2 then has the capability of performing output 
processing on the data set while the job continues execution. JESLOG data sets 
can be spun through $T J/S/T,SPIN.

In most cases, JES2 frees spool tracks allocated to the data set after 
printing, canceling, or transmitting the last copy of the data set.

For applications that dynamically allocate a spin SYSOUT data set (unallocation 
at Close - Key X'001C') but fail to issue FREE=CLOSE or SPIN=UNALLOC, JES2 does 
not free spool tracks allocated to the spin data set until the job is purged. 
In this case, end-of-task processing deallocates the data set and job purge 
processing returns the allocated tracks.



NOTE:  There are some DD Statements that are created at job creation time 

   DDNAME   StepName ProcStep DSID  
   JESMSGLG JES2 2  
   JESJCL   JES2 3  
   JESYSMSG JES2 4  

Note:  Sometimes even though you "see" output, the Spin command may provide the 
message:  $HASP138 SPIN rejected, no spinnable data set

Hope this helps.

Lizette



The DD statements with DSID numbers less than 100 are special.



z/OS z/OS 2.2.0  z/OS JES2 z/OS JES2 Initialization and Tuning Guide 
Controlling JES2 processes  Printers and punches 

   Table 1. JES2 system data setsData Set Name  Purpose of data set
   JESJCLIN Indicates the actual JCL submitted.
   JESMSGLG Indicates any system messages for this job.
   JESJCL   Indicates all job control statements in the input stream, that 
is, all JCL statements and JES2 control statements, plus all procedure 
statements from any in-stream or cataloged procedure a job step calls, plus all 
messages about job control statements.
   JESYSMSG Indicates the job's hardcopy log, which contains the JES2 and 
operator messages about the job's processing: allocation of devices and 
volumes, execution and termination of job steps and the job, and disposition of 
data sets.



You should talk to your friendly z/OS system programmer for assistance specific 
to your shop.

Lizette


-Original Message-
>From: venkat kulkarni <venkatkulkarn...@gmail.com>
>Sent: May 10, 2017 11:42 AM
>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>Subject: Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset
>
>Hello Lizette,
>
>Couple of important points,
>
>1) I am still not clear that, what happens when we run spin command  $T
>job(ims12RC1),spin,ddname=JESMSGLG . Where messages goes from DD JESMSGLG  .
>
>In my case, when i run this command, it clear all record from DD JESMSGLG
>but its not storing in output queue. But my requirement is that it should
>keep those record in output queue after this spin command and from output
>queue, we use some way to suck this output and archive it for later use.
>
>2) I have set my outdisp parameter to (write, write)  for this STC class
>but still my records from this DD JESMSGLG  not coming to output queue.
>Please help to provide some reason on this issue.
>
>3) When i run  $T job(ims12RC1),spin,ddname=JESMSGLG command, it start
>processing this DD but i never get message saying successfully completed. I
>waited for long but it never finish but I see my record becomes zero in
>address space for this DD name.
>
>
>I tried reading all document possible for this and couldnt find 

Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset

[Gibney, Dave]

What are the attributes of MSGCLASS Z? Once you've spun, that would be the next 
part of control?

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> On Behalf Of venkat kulkarni
> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:42 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset
> 
> Hello Lizette,
> 
> Couple of important points,
> 
> 1) I am still not clear that, what happens when we run spin command  $T
> job(ims12RC1),spin,ddname=JESMSGLG . Where messages goes from DD
> JESMSGLG  .
> 
> In my case, when i run this command, it clear all record from DD JESMSGLG
> but its not storing in output queue. But my requirement is that it should keep
> those record in output queue after this spin command and from output
> queue, we use some way to suck this output and archive it for later use.
> 
> 2) I have set my outdisp parameter to (write, write)  for this STC class but 
> still
> my records from this DD JESMSGLG  not coming to output queue.
> Please help to provide some reason on this issue.
> 
> 3) When i run  $T job(ims12RC1),spin,ddname=JESMSGLG command, it start
> processing this DD but i never get message saying successfully completed. I
> waited for long but it never finish but I see my record becomes zero in
> address space for this DD name.
> 
> 
> I tried reading all document possible for this and couldnt find any help.
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 8:43 PM, Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-
> dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> 
> > On 2017-05-10, at 01:25, Gibney, Dave wrote:
> >
> > > I don't believe attempting to override the three JES files with
> > > a
> > explicit DD definition will work.
> > > I think, but haven't confirmed that you can define the eligibility
> > > to
> > spin those files in the definition of the STC or JOB Class to JES2. It
> > probably take a JES2 command or COLD start to set these attributes.
> > >
> > Many characteristics of the JES data sets can be controlled
> > jointly
> > (JESDS=ALL) or severally by JCL OUTPUT statements.  It's probably not
> > useful to direct any of them to W=INTRDR.
> >
> > If a serious JCL error is detected, OUTPUT statements may be
> > ineffective whereas MSGCLASS would have operated.
> >
> > -- gil
> >
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Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset

[venkat kulkarni]

Hello Lizette,

Couple of important points,

1) I am still not clear that, what happens when we run spin command  $T
job(ims12RC1),spin,ddname=JESMSGLG . Where messages goes from DD JESMSGLG  .

In my case, when i run this command, it clear all record from DD JESMSGLG
but its not storing in output queue. But my requirement is that it should
keep those record in output queue after this spin command and from output
queue, we use some way to suck this output and archive it for later use.

2) I have set my outdisp parameter to (write, write)  for this STC class
but still my records from this DD JESMSGLG  not coming to output queue.
Please help to provide some reason on this issue.

3) When i run  $T job(ims12RC1),spin,ddname=JESMSGLG command, it start
processing this DD but i never get message saying successfully completed. I
waited for long but it never finish but I see my record becomes zero in
address space for this DD name.


I tried reading all document possible for this and couldnt find any help.



On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 8:43 PM, Paul Gilmartin <
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> On 2017-05-10, at 01:25, Gibney, Dave wrote:
>
> > I don't believe attempting to override the three JES files with a
> explicit DD definition will work.
> > I think, but haven't confirmed that you can define the eligibility to
> spin those files in the definition of the STC or JOB Class to JES2. It
> probably take a JES2 command or COLD start to set these attributes.
> >
> Many characteristics of the JES data sets can be controlled jointly
> (JESDS=ALL) or severally by JCL OUTPUT statements.  It's probably not
> useful to direct any of them to W=INTRDR.
>
> If a serious JCL error is detected, OUTPUT statements may be ineffective
> whereas MSGCLASS would have operated.
>
> -- gil
>
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Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset

[Paul Gilmartin]

On 2017-05-10, at 01:25, Gibney, Dave wrote:

> I don't believe attempting to override the three JES files with a 
> explicit DD definition will work. 
> I think, but haven't confirmed that you can define the eligibility to spin 
> those files in the definition of the STC or JOB Class to JES2. It probably 
> take a JES2 command or COLD start to set these attributes.
>  
Many characteristics of the JES data sets can be controlled jointly
(JESDS=ALL) or severally by JCL OUTPUT statements.  It's probably not
useful to direct any of them to W=INTRDR.

If a serious JCL error is detected, OUTPUT statements may be ineffective
whereas MSGCLASS would have operated.

-- gil

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Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset

[Tom Marchant]

On Tue, 9 May 2017 10:42:48 +0300, venkat kulkarni wrote:

>Yes. It's not.so I should code jesmsglg dd stmt as
>//JESMSGLG dd sysout=a,free=close,spin=unalloc

No, you should not.
Doing so would define a DD statement for your step. But the JESYSMSG 
for the job has already been allocated before your step starts.

Look up JESLOG=SPIN.

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Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset

[venkat kulkarni]

I think spin only works when we have dd name defined in our proc with
free=close and spin=unalloc .. else even after running spin command from
console , process wil never finish and we will not get print in output
class.

Please correct me, if I am wrong.

On 10-May-2017 11:03 AM, "Gibney, Dave" <gib...@wsu.edu> wrote:

> Is Z a held MSGCLASS?
> I really haven't used SPIN, so I can't help much. But, I really doubt you
> can successfully define the DD you desire. I don't think JES2 allows it.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> > On Behalf Of venkat kulkarni
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 12:46 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset
> >
> > Below is my stc job class output
> >
> > RESPONSE=TST4
> >
> >  $HASP837 JOBCLASS(STC)
> >
> >  $HASP837 JOBCLASS(STC)   AUTH=(ALL),BLP=YES,COMMAND=EXECUTE,
> >
> >  $HASP837 CONDPURG=YES,DSENQSHR=ALLOW,
> >
> >  $HASP837 IEFUJP=YES,IEFUSO=YES,JESLOG=(SPIN,
> >
> >  $HASP837 10K),LOG=YES,MSGLEVEL=(1,1),
> >
> >  $HASP837 MSGCLASS=Z,OUTDISP=(WRITE,WRITE),
> >
> >  $HASP837 OUTPUT=YES,PERFORM=000,PROCLIB=00,
> >
> >  $HASP837 QAFF=(ANY),REGION=0004M,SWA=BELOW,
> >
> >  $HASP837 TIME=(000120,00),TYPE26=YES,
> >
> >  $HASP837 TYPE6=YES
> >
> > I looked at every possible document and I think the issue is, when I
> issue spin
> > command , the process starts and spin records from dd but it never write
> on
> > output queue.
> >
> > So, what is stopping system to complete this spin process and should
> return
> > me $HASP138 of successful completion.
> >
> > I am still suspecting that do I need to have dd name entry in my proc
> which I
> > am using in my spin command with free=close and spin=unallocated
> >
> > Please help me to clear this doubt
> >
> > On 10-May-2017 10:26 AM, "Gibney, Dave" <gib...@wsu.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > I don't believe attempting to override the three JES files with a
> > > explicit DD definition will work.
> > > I think, but haven't confirmed that you can define the eligibility to
> > > spin those files in the definition of the STC or JOB Class to JES2. It
> > > probably take a JES2 command or COLD start to set these attributes.
> > >
> > > Looking at the appropriate manual(s) will help you as much or more as
> > > these questions here.
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> > > > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of venkat kulkarni
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 11:25 PM
> > > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > > > Subject: Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset
> > > >
> > > >  I feel, whatever DD name I want spin, I should code in proclib for
> > > example
> > > > : If I want to always spin JESMSGLG DD from address space then I
> > > > should code below line in proclib and then
> > > >
> > > >  only my spin command will be completed.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > //JESMSGLG DD SYSOUT=A,FREE=CLOSE,SPIN=UNALLOC
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Please correct me, if I am wrong.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2) Currently, I don’t get  $HASP138 message on my console after
> > > > starting SPIN command. I just get below command
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > $T JQ(IMS12IMS),SPIN,DDNAME=JESMSGLG
> > > >
> > > > $HASP890 JOB(IMS12IMS) 103
> > > >
> > > > $HASP890 JOB(IMS12IMS)  STATUS=(EXECUTING/TST4),CLASS=STC,
> > > >
> > > > $HASP890PRIORITY=15,SYSAFF=(TST4),HOLD=(NONE)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So, I have doubt that my spin command is not getting completed or
> > > > some other reason.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 3) After running this spin command, I don’t see any output in my
> > > > output queue. Even though i set my STC job class
> > > >
> &g

Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset

[Gibney, Dave]

Is Z a held MSGCLASS? 
I really haven't used SPIN, so I can't help much. But, I really doubt you can 
successfully define the DD you desire. I don't think JES2 allows it.

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> On Behalf Of venkat kulkarni
> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 12:46 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset
> 
> Below is my stc job class output
> 
> RESPONSE=TST4
> 
>  $HASP837 JOBCLASS(STC)
> 
>  $HASP837 JOBCLASS(STC)   AUTH=(ALL),BLP=YES,COMMAND=EXECUTE,
> 
>  $HASP837 CONDPURG=YES,DSENQSHR=ALLOW,
> 
>  $HASP837 IEFUJP=YES,IEFUSO=YES,JESLOG=(SPIN,
> 
>  $HASP837 10K),LOG=YES,MSGLEVEL=(1,1),
> 
>  $HASP837 MSGCLASS=Z,OUTDISP=(WRITE,WRITE),
> 
>  $HASP837 OUTPUT=YES,PERFORM=000,PROCLIB=00,
> 
>  $HASP837 QAFF=(ANY),REGION=0004M,SWA=BELOW,
> 
>  $HASP837 TIME=(000120,00),TYPE26=YES,
> 
>  $HASP837 TYPE6=YES
> 
> I looked at every possible document and I think the issue is, when I issue 
> spin
> command , the process starts and spin records from dd but it never write on
> output queue.
> 
> So, what is stopping system to complete this spin process and should return
> me $HASP138 of successful completion.
> 
> I am still suspecting that do I need to have dd name entry in my proc which I
> am using in my spin command with free=close and spin=unallocated
> 
> Please help me to clear this doubt
> 
> On 10-May-2017 10:26 AM, "Gibney, Dave" <gib...@wsu.edu> wrote:
> 
> > I don't believe attempting to override the three JES files with a
> > explicit DD definition will work.
> > I think, but haven't confirmed that you can define the eligibility to
> > spin those files in the definition of the STC or JOB Class to JES2. It
> > probably take a JES2 command or COLD start to set these attributes.
> >
> > Looking at the appropriate manual(s) will help you as much or more as
> > these questions here.
> >
> > > -Original Message-----
> > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> > > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of venkat kulkarni
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 11:25 PM
> > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > > Subject: Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset
> > >
> > >  I feel, whatever DD name I want spin, I should code in proclib for
> > example
> > > : If I want to always spin JESMSGLG DD from address space then I
> > > should code below line in proclib and then
> > >
> > >  only my spin command will be completed.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > //JESMSGLG DD SYSOUT=A,FREE=CLOSE,SPIN=UNALLOC
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Please correct me, if I am wrong.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2) Currently, I don’t get  $HASP138 message on my console after
> > > starting SPIN command. I just get below command
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > $T JQ(IMS12IMS),SPIN,DDNAME=JESMSGLG
> > >
> > > $HASP890 JOB(IMS12IMS) 103
> > >
> > > $HASP890 JOB(IMS12IMS)  STATUS=(EXECUTING/TST4),CLASS=STC,
> > >
> > > $HASP890PRIORITY=15,SYSAFF=(TST4),HOLD=(NONE)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > So, I have doubt that my spin command is not getting completed or
> > > some other reason.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 3) After running this spin command, I don’t see any output in my
> > > output queue. Even though i set my STC job class
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > /$T JOBCLASS(STC),OUTDISP=(KEEP,KEEP)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > still, no output on output queue.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 4) I see duplicate DD name like below after running SPIN command. Ex
> > > JESMSGLG and JESYSMSG  are showing me 2 times in this same address
> > > space.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > SDSF JOB DATA SET DISPLAY - JOB IMS12IMS (STC02551)
> > >
> > > COMMAND INPUT ===>
> > >
> > > PREFIX=IMS12IMS  DEST=(ALL)  OWNER=*  SYSNAME=
> > >
> > > NP   DDNAME   StepName ProcStep DSID OwnerC Dest
> > >
> > >  JESMSGLG JES2 2 STCCICQ  Z
> > >
> > >  J

Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset

[venkat kulkarni]

Below is my stc job class output

RESPONSE=TST4

 $HASP837 JOBCLASS(STC)

 $HASP837 JOBCLASS(STC)   AUTH=(ALL),BLP=YES,COMMAND=EXECUTE,

 $HASP837 CONDPURG=YES,DSENQSHR=ALLOW,

 $HASP837 IEFUJP=YES,IEFUSO=YES,JESLOG=(SPIN,

 $HASP837 10K),LOG=YES,MSGLEVEL=(1,1),

 $HASP837 MSGCLASS=Z,OUTDISP=(WRITE,WRITE),

 $HASP837 OUTPUT=YES,PERFORM=000,PROCLIB=00,

 $HASP837 QAFF=(ANY),REGION=0004M,SWA=BELOW,

 $HASP837 TIME=(000120,00),TYPE26=YES,

 $HASP837 TYPE6=YES

I looked at every possible document and I think the issue is, when I issue
spin command , the process starts and spin records from dd but it never
write on output queue.

So, what is stopping system to complete this spin process and should return
me $HASP138 of successful completion.

I am still suspecting that do I need to have dd name entry in my proc which
I am using in my spin command with free=close and spin=unallocated

Please help me to clear this doubt

On 10-May-2017 10:26 AM, "Gibney, Dave" <gib...@wsu.edu> wrote:

> I don't believe attempting to override the three JES files with a
> explicit DD definition will work.
> I think, but haven't confirmed that you can define the eligibility to spin
> those files in the definition of the STC or JOB Class to JES2. It probably
> take a JES2 command or COLD start to set these attributes.
>
> Looking at the appropriate manual(s) will help you as much or more as
> these questions here.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> > On Behalf Of venkat kulkarni
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 11:25 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset
> >
> >  I feel, whatever DD name I want spin, I should code in proclib for
> example
> > : If I want to always spin JESMSGLG DD from address space then I should
> > code below line in proclib and then
> >
> >  only my spin command will be completed.
> >
> >
> >
> > //JESMSGLG DD SYSOUT=A,FREE=CLOSE,SPIN=UNALLOC
> >
> >
> >
> > Please correct me, if I am wrong.
> >
> >
> >
> > 2) Currently, I don’t get  $HASP138 message on my console after starting
> > SPIN command. I just get below command
> >
> >
> >
> > $T JQ(IMS12IMS),SPIN,DDNAME=JESMSGLG
> >
> > $HASP890 JOB(IMS12IMS) 103
> >
> > $HASP890 JOB(IMS12IMS)  STATUS=(EXECUTING/TST4),CLASS=STC,
> >
> > $HASP890PRIORITY=15,SYSAFF=(TST4),HOLD=(NONE)
> >
> >
> >
> > So, I have doubt that my spin command is not getting completed or some
> > other reason.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 3) After running this spin command, I don’t see any output in my output
> > queue. Even though i set my STC job class
> >
> >
> >
> > /$T JOBCLASS(STC),OUTDISP=(KEEP,KEEP)
> >
> >
> >
> > still, no output on output queue.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 4) I see duplicate DD name like below after running SPIN command. Ex
> > JESMSGLG and JESYSMSG  are showing me 2 times in this same address
> > space.
> >
> >
> >
> > SDSF JOB DATA SET DISPLAY - JOB IMS12IMS (STC02551)
> >
> > COMMAND INPUT ===>
> >
> > PREFIX=IMS12IMS  DEST=(ALL)  OWNER=*  SYSNAME=
> >
> > NP   DDNAME   StepName ProcStep DSID OwnerC Dest
> >
> >  JESMSGLG JES2 2 STCCICQ  Z
> >
> >  JESJCL   JES2 3 STCCICQ  Z
> >
> >  JESYSMSG JES2 4 STCCICQ  Z
> >
> >  JESYSMSG JES2   104 STCCICQ  Z
> >
> >  JESMSGLG JES2   108 STCCICQ  Z
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Can you please help me to solve these queries.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 09-May-2017 8:16 PM, "Lizette Koehler" <stars...@mindspring.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Venkat -
> > >
> > >
> > > You can SPIN SYSOUT (I do not think you can SPIN INTRDR )
> > >
> > > Sometimes, the SYSOUT is not PURGED from the Job unless you have
> > > SPIN=CLOSE,FREE=UNALLOC.  Otherwise the purge of the output will occur
> > > when the task is shut down.
> > >
> > > JES2 keeps a counter of output written. When it gets to a certain
> > > amount you will see S722 abends
> > >
> > > When you SPIN output it will go to the out

Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset

[Gibney, Dave]

I don't believe attempting to override the three JES files with a explicit 
DD definition will work. 
I think, but haven't confirmed that you can define the eligibility to spin 
those files in the definition of the STC or JOB Class to JES2. It probably take 
a JES2 command or COLD start to set these attributes.

Looking at the appropriate manual(s) will help you as much or more as these 
questions here.

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> On Behalf Of venkat kulkarni
> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 11:25 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset
> 
>  I feel, whatever DD name I want spin, I should code in proclib for example
> : If I want to always spin JESMSGLG DD from address space then I should
> code below line in proclib and then
> 
>  only my spin command will be completed.
> 
> 
> 
> //JESMSGLG DD SYSOUT=A,FREE=CLOSE,SPIN=UNALLOC
> 
> 
> 
> Please correct me, if I am wrong.
> 
> 
> 
> 2) Currently, I don’t get  $HASP138 message on my console after starting
> SPIN command. I just get below command
> 
> 
> 
> $T JQ(IMS12IMS),SPIN,DDNAME=JESMSGLG
> 
> $HASP890 JOB(IMS12IMS) 103
> 
> $HASP890 JOB(IMS12IMS)  STATUS=(EXECUTING/TST4),CLASS=STC,
> 
> $HASP890PRIORITY=15,SYSAFF=(TST4),HOLD=(NONE)
> 
> 
> 
> So, I have doubt that my spin command is not getting completed or some
> other reason.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 3) After running this spin command, I don’t see any output in my output
> queue. Even though i set my STC job class
> 
> 
> 
> /$T JOBCLASS(STC),OUTDISP=(KEEP,KEEP)
> 
> 
> 
> still, no output on output queue.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 4) I see duplicate DD name like below after running SPIN command. Ex
> JESMSGLG and JESYSMSG  are showing me 2 times in this same address
> space.
> 
> 
> 
> SDSF JOB DATA SET DISPLAY - JOB IMS12IMS (STC02551)
> 
> COMMAND INPUT ===>
> 
> PREFIX=IMS12IMS  DEST=(ALL)  OWNER=*  SYSNAME=
> 
> NP   DDNAME   StepName ProcStep DSID OwnerC Dest
> 
>  JESMSGLG JES2 2 STCCICQ  Z
> 
>  JESJCL   JES2 3 STCCICQ  Z
> 
>  JESYSMSG JES2 4 STCCICQ  Z
> 
>  JESYSMSG JES2   104 STCCICQ  Z
> 
>  JESMSGLG JES2   108 STCCICQ  Z
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Can you please help me to solve these queries.
> 
> 
> 
> On 09-May-2017 8:16 PM, "Lizette Koehler" <stars...@mindspring.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Venkat -
> >
> >
> > You can SPIN SYSOUT (I do not think you can SPIN INTRDR )
> >
> > Sometimes, the SYSOUT is not PURGED from the Job unless you have
> > SPIN=CLOSE,FREE=UNALLOC.  Otherwise the purge of the output will occur
> > when the task is shut down.
> >
> > JES2 keeps a counter of output written. When it gets to a certain
> > amount you will see S722 abends
> >
> > When you SPIN output it will go to the output class specified.
> >
> > For example, SYSOUT=B -  When you spin it will go to the class B.  Now
> > if B is setup in JES2 as a HELD class or OUTPUT class is dependent on
> > your shop's JES2 parm
> >
> > You can see the output that you SPIN in the SDSF Panels.  Either theO
> >   STH   panels
> >
> > Once you spin the output you still need another process to write the
> > data to a data set.
> >
> > Processes suggested so far
> >  Write an SDSF ISFEXEC REXX to read the Data from JES2 to dataset
> > _ Example is JES2DISK
> >  Purchase a product to do this ($AVERS, VIEW DIRECT, XPTR, and so
> > forth)
> >  Setup and External writer to read the data from Spool and write
> > to a dataset
> >  Setup a JES2 Offloader to write the data to a dataset.
> >  Look for tools on cbttape.org
> >
> >
> >
> > Note:  There are special DD statements that are generated by JES2 you
> > cannot control with a JCL Statement to spin it.
> >
> > You could review the Manuals  JES2 INIT and TUNING GUIDE, and JES2
> > INIT and TUNING Reference.  They have good detail on how JES2 does
> > output management.
> >
> > SA32-0991-00z/OS JES2 Initialization and Tuning Guide
> > SA32-0992-00z/OS JES2 Initialization and Tuning Reference
> >
> > Next, find the REXX called JES2DISK.  I use this all the time to read
> > data from JES2 and write it to a dataset.  It works very well.
> >
> >
> > It is still not clear what problem you are trying to

Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset

[venkat kulkarni]

 I feel, whatever DD name I want spin, I should code in proclib for example
: If I want to always spin JESMSGLG DD from address space then I should
code below line in proclib and then

 only my spin command will be completed.



//JESMSGLG DD SYSOUT=A,FREE=CLOSE,SPIN=UNALLOC



Please correct me, if I am wrong.



2) Currently, I don’t get  $HASP138 message on my console after starting
SPIN command. I just get below command



$T JQ(IMS12IMS),SPIN,DDNAME=JESMSGLG

$HASP890 JOB(IMS12IMS) 103

$HASP890 JOB(IMS12IMS)  STATUS=(EXECUTING/TST4),CLASS=STC,

$HASP890PRIORITY=15,SYSAFF=(TST4),HOLD=(NONE)



So, I have doubt that my spin command is not getting completed or some
other reason.





3) After running this spin command, I don’t see any output in my output
queue. Even though i set my STC job class



/$T JOBCLASS(STC),OUTDISP=(KEEP,KEEP)



still, no output on output queue.





4) I see duplicate DD name like below after running SPIN command. Ex
JESMSGLG and JESYSMSG  are showing me 2 times in this same address space.



SDSF JOB DATA SET DISPLAY - JOB IMS12IMS (STC02551)

COMMAND INPUT ===>

PREFIX=IMS12IMS  DEST=(ALL)  OWNER=*  SYSNAME=

NP   DDNAME   StepName ProcStep DSID OwnerC Dest

 JESMSGLG JES2 2 STCCICQ  Z

 JESJCL   JES2 3 STCCICQ  Z

 JESYSMSG JES2 4 STCCICQ  Z

 JESYSMSG JES2   104 STCCICQ  Z

 JESMSGLG JES2   108 STCCICQ  Z





Can you please help me to solve these queries.



On 09-May-2017 8:16 PM, "Lizette Koehler" <stars...@mindspring.com> wrote:

> Venkat -
>
>
> You can SPIN SYSOUT (I do not think you can SPIN INTRDR )
>
> Sometimes, the SYSOUT is not PURGED from the Job unless you have
> SPIN=CLOSE,FREE=UNALLOC.  Otherwise the purge of the output will occur when
> the task is shut down.
>
> JES2 keeps a counter of output written. When it gets to a certain amount
> you will see S722 abends
>
> When you SPIN output it will go to the output class specified.
>
> For example, SYSOUT=B -  When you spin it will go to the class B.  Now if
> B is setup in JES2 as a HELD class or OUTPUT class is dependent on your
> shop's JES2 parm
>
> You can see the output that you SPIN in the SDSF Panels.  Either theO
>   STH   panels
>
> Once you spin the output you still need another process to write the data
> to a data set.
>
> Processes suggested so far
>  Write an SDSF ISFEXEC REXX to read the Data from JES2 to dataset _
> Example is JES2DISK
>  Purchase a product to do this ($AVERS, VIEW DIRECT, XPTR, and so
> forth)
>  Setup and External writer to read the data from Spool and write to a
> dataset
>  Setup a JES2 Offloader to write the data to a dataset.
>  Look for tools on cbttape.org
>
>
>
> Note:  There are special DD statements that are generated by JES2 you
> cannot control with a JCL Statement to spin it.
>
> You could review the Manuals  JES2 INIT and TUNING GUIDE, and JES2 INIT
> and TUNING Reference.  They have good detail on how JES2 does output
> management.
>
> SA32-0991-00z/OS JES2 Initialization and Tuning Guide
> SA32-0992-00z/OS JES2 Initialization and Tuning Reference
>
> Next, find the REXX called JES2DISK.  I use this all the time to read data
> from JES2 and write it to a dataset.  It works very well.
>
>
> It is still not clear what problem you are trying to solve.
>
>
> If you could summarize what it is you need to do, it might be helpful to
> level set the issue at this time.  There have been a lot of comments and
> suggestions which do not seem to meet your needs.
>
> For example, my task needs to collect the data from STC x which runs
> 24x7.  I need the information written to the DD statement Y.  This needs to
> go into a GDG or SEQ files for later review.  This output is a (REPORT,
> JCL, LOGGING, etc)
>
>
>
> SPIN can happen at the TASK LEVEL -  S stcname,SPIN=('spin parms')
>   Or the DD level  //DD  DD SYSOUT=x,SPIN=
>   OR by issuing a JES2 command  $Tzz,SPINzzz is either Task
> Number, TaskName
>
> Depending on the requirements you are provided, it will depend on which
> function you will need to use.
>
>
> The more specific the question, the better the answers.  Generic questions
> or comments can lead to confusion for everyone.
>
> This list can provide lots of suggestions and guidance.  It will be your
> job to work with the suggestions and see what works in your shop.  Each
> shop is different and what works for one does not always work for another.
>
>
>
> Lizette
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-M

Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset

[Lizette Koehler]

Venkat -

 
You can SPIN SYSOUT (I do not think you can SPIN INTRDR )

Sometimes, the SYSOUT is not PURGED from the Job unless you have 
SPIN=CLOSE,FREE=UNALLOC.  Otherwise the purge of the output will occur when the 
task is shut down.

JES2 keeps a counter of output written. When it gets to a certain amount you 
will see S722 abends

When you SPIN output it will go to the output class specified.

For example, SYSOUT=B -  When you spin it will go to the class B.  Now if B is 
setup in JES2 as a HELD class or OUTPUT class is dependent on your shop's JES2 
parm

You can see the output that you SPIN in the SDSF Panels.  Either theOST 
   H   panels

Once you spin the output you still need another process to write the data to a 
data set.

Processes suggested so far
 Write an SDSF ISFEXEC REXX to read the Data from JES2 to dataset _ Example 
is JES2DISK
 Purchase a product to do this ($AVERS, VIEW DIRECT, XPTR, and so forth)
 Setup and External writer to read the data from Spool and write to a 
dataset
 Setup a JES2 Offloader to write the data to a dataset.
 Look for tools on cbttape.org



Note:  There are special DD statements that are generated by JES2 you cannot 
control with a JCL Statement to spin it.

You could review the Manuals  JES2 INIT and TUNING GUIDE, and JES2 INIT and 
TUNING Reference.  They have good detail on how JES2 does output management.

SA32-0991-00z/OS JES2 Initialization and Tuning Guide
SA32-0992-00z/OS JES2 Initialization and Tuning Reference

Next, find the REXX called JES2DISK.  I use this all the time to read data from 
JES2 and write it to a dataset.  It works very well.


It is still not clear what problem you are trying to solve.


If you could summarize what it is you need to do, it might be helpful to level 
set the issue at this time.  There have been a lot of comments and suggestions 
which do not seem to meet your needs. 

For example, my task needs to collect the data from STC x which runs 24x7.  I 
need the information written to the DD statement Y.  This needs to go into a 
GDG or SEQ files for later review.  This output is a (REPORT, JCL, LOGGING, 
etc) 



SPIN can happen at the TASK LEVEL -  S stcname,SPIN=('spin parms') 
  Or the DD level  //DD  DD SYSOUT=x,SPIN=  
  OR by issuing a JES2 command  $Tzz,SPINzzz is either Task Number, 
TaskName

Depending on the requirements you are provided, it will depend on which 
function you will need to use.


The more specific the question, the better the answers.  Generic questions or 
comments can lead to confusion for everyone.

This list can provide lots of suggestions and guidance.  It will be your job to 
work with the suggestions and see what works in your shop.  Each shop is 
different and what works for one does not always work for another.



Lizette


> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of venkat kulkarni
> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 12:43 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset
> 
> Yes. It's not.so I should code jesmsglg dd stmt as //JESMSGLG dd
> sysout=a,free=close,spin=unalloc
> 
>  in my ims proc and then recycle ims and then issue $t
> job,imsproc,spin,ddname=JESMSGLG Command to spin JESMSGLG.
> 
> Please correct me, if my understanding is wrong.
> Also, suggest after this spin , how to remove those many record from JESMSGLG
> dd which we just spin .
> 
> On 09-May-2017 9:40 AM, "Gibney, Dave" <gib...@wsu.edu> wrote:
> 
> > There is no DD named JCLOUT.
> > There is nothing (aside from the JESx) to SPIN.
> > Why do you want to spin job?
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> > > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of venkat kulkarni
> > > Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 10:44 PM
> > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > > Subject: Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset
> > >
> > > Hello All,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for reply. I looked at my IMS proc and looks like below.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > BROWSESYS1.DEVL.PROCLIB(IMS12IMS) - 01.05Line  Col
> > 001
> > > 080
> > >
> > >  Command ===>  Scroll
> > ===>
> > > CSR
> > >
> > > * Top of Data
> > > **
> > > 
> > >
> > > //   PROC RGN=0M,SOUT=A,
> > >
> > > //SYS=,SYS2=,
> > >
> > > //RGSUF=DBC,PARM1='AUTO=N',
> > >
> > > //PARM2=
> > >
&

Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset

[Farley, Peter x23353]

Burroughs 5500 MCS (and possibly later, I didn't get to see those) had WFL, 
Work Flow Language, which was nearly the full Burroughs Algol language, minus 
the I/O facilities.

Very powerful and flexible.  Your "JCL" was an actual program, and IIRC it was 
compiled for execution.  Fun stuff.

Shell scripts are all well and good for those who understand them I suppose, 
but they have their quirks and deficiencies too.  I can read and write them 
myself, but many application programmers cannot yet do so, and are stuck with 
JCL.

Peter

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Subject: Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset



IMO, IBM needs to _replace_ JCL with "something else". But, honestly, I'm not 
knowledgeable enough to design the "something else". And, even then, you'd need 
to allow both the old JCL and the new WCL (Workload Control Language, just to 
give it a name) to be "submitted". But, also quite honestly, I'd really prefer 
that IBM use its time and money for better things. If you don't like JCL (and I 
don't really), then just run UNIX scripts via JCL using Dovetailed 
Technologies' Co:Z Launcher. It has the nice property of being able to allow 
the reading and writing of physical sequential data sets defined in DDs using 
their "fromdsn" and "todsn" UNIX commands.

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Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset

[John McKown]

On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 10:03 AM, Paul Gilmartin <
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> On Tue, 9 May 2017 09:54:22 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 9 May 2017 08:16:48 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> >
> >>The JCL Ref. indicates that they are available to the
> >>//*FORMAT PR statement.
> >>
> >>("//*FORMAT PR" looks uncomfortably like a comment.  Is
> >>this a reserved comment?  Ugh!)
> >
> >It's a JES3 JECL statement.
> >There is a good reason it looks like a comment.
> >It allows JCL to be coded that contains Job Entry Control Language
> statements
> >for both JES2 and JES3, so that it can be run in either environment.
> >
> I don't consider it a good reason.  It would have been better to provide a
> PRAGMA directive as many other languages do, rather than to usurp
> part of the comment grammar with attendant risk of astonishment.
>

​In a perfect world, you are correct. But JES2 was originally HASP, whereas
JES3 was ASP. And those "products" were non-IBM developed (as not in PID)
"add ons" back in the days of OS/MFT & OS/MVT. Many of the strange things
in JES2 (such as the DUPL_JOB=DELAY) were inherited from HASP. Since they
were "add ons", they could not introduce any changes to the JCL
converter/interpreter. After 40+ years, changing all your old JES{2,3} JECL
to the "new and improved!" stuff would cause people to tear IBM a new one.
One big problem with z/OS is all the "cruft" left over from restriction in
the past which were _required_ (due to the "smallness" of the computers) at
the time but are now just a PITA.​

IMO, IBM needs to _replace_ JCL with "something else". But, honestly, I'm
not knowledgeable enough to design the "something else". And, even then,
you'd need to allow both the old JCL and the new WCL (Workload Control
Language, just to give it a name) to be "submitted". But, also quite
honestly, I'd really prefer that IBM use its time and money for better
things. If you don't like JCL (and I don't really), then just run UNIX
scripts via JCL using Dovetailed Technologies' Co:Z Launcher. It has the
nice property of being able to allow the reading and writing of physical
sequential data sets defined in DDs using their "fromdsn" and "todsn" UNIX
commands.



>
> -- gil
>
>

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Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset

[Tom Marchant]

On Tue, 9 May 2017 10:03:04 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote:

>On Tue, 9 May 2017 09:54:22 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote:
>
>>There is a good reason it looks like a comment.
>>It allows JCL to be coded that contains Job Entry Control Language statements 
>>for both JES2 and JES3, so that it can be run in either environment.
>> 
>I don't consider it a good reason.  It would have been better to provide a
>PRAGMA directive as many other languages do, rather than to usurp
>part of the comment grammar with attendant risk of astonishment.

Hindsight.

How many languages had a PRAGMA directive when ASP was written in the 1960's?

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Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Tue, 9 May 2017 09:54:22 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote:

>On Tue, 9 May 2017 08:16:48 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>
>>The JCL Ref. indicates that they are available to the
>>//*FORMAT PR statement.
>>
>>("//*FORMAT PR" looks uncomfortably like a comment.  Is
>>this a reserved comment?  Ugh!)
>
>It's a JES3 JECL statement.
>There is a good reason it looks like a comment.
>It allows JCL to be coded that contains Job Entry Control Language statements 
>for both JES2 and JES3, so that it can be run in either environment.
> 
I don't consider it a good reason.  It would have been better to provide a
PRAGMA directive as many other languages do, rather than to usurp
part of the comment grammar with attendant risk of astonishment.

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Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset

[John McKown]

On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 9:16 AM, Paul Gilmartin <
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> On 2017-05-09, at 01:42, venkat kulkarni wrote:
>
> > Yes. It's not.so I should code jesmsglg dd stmt as
> > //JESMSGLG dd sysout=a,free=close,spin=unalloc
> >
> > in my ims proc and then recycle ims and then issue
> > $t job,imsproc,spin,ddname=JESMSGLG
> > Command to spin JESMSGLG.
> >
> The JCL Ref. lists several DDNAMES not available for general use:
> Special ddnames
> The special data sets are identified by the following ddnames:
> JOBLIB
> STEPLIB
> SYSABEND
> SYSCHK
> SYSCKEOV
> SYSIN
> SYSMDUMP
> SYSUDUMP
>
> SDSF also shows me several (pseudo?) DDNAMEs such as
> JESJCL, JESYSMSG, and JESMSGLG.  What happens if the
> programmer attempts to override one of these, e.g. by
> directing it to a catalogued data set or a UNIX file?
>

​NCD - No Can Do. Those pseudo DDNAMEs cannot be directed to a non-SPOOL
data set or UNIX file. The only thing that I know could possibly be done is
to SPIN them off periodically (or aperiodically "as requested" via that $T
command) and then process the spun data, perhaps into a DSN or UNIX file
or, as we do, to a "remote" location via an LPR destination (which is a
Windows box driven from z/OS via MacKinney's JQP).



>
> The JCL Ref. indicates that they are available to the
> //*FORMAT PR statement.
>
> ("//*FORMAT PR" looks uncomfortably like a comment.  Is
> this a reserved comment?  Ugh!)
>

​this is a JES3 JECL (JEs Command Language) statement. And, yes, it _is_
also a regular JCL comment statement in a non-JES3 (i.e. JES2) environment.​



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>
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Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset

[Tom Marchant]

On Tue, 9 May 2017 08:16:48 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote:

>The JCL Ref. indicates that they are available to the
>//*FORMAT PR statement.
>
>("//*FORMAT PR" looks uncomfortably like a comment.  Is
>this a reserved comment?  Ugh!)

It's a JES3 JECL statement.
There is a good reason it looks like a comment.
It allows JCL to be coded that contains Job Entry Control Language statements 
for both JES2 and JES3, so that it can be run in either environment.

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Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset

[Tom Marchant]

On Tue, 9 May 2017 16:01:33 +0300, venkat kulkarni wrote:

>and also after spin, all these messages should be no longer exist in this
>imsproc.

SPIN does not delete messages. It makes them available for print or cancel.

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Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset

[Paul Gilmartin]

On 2017-05-09, at 01:42, venkat kulkarni wrote:

> Yes. It's not.so I should code jesmsglg dd stmt as
> //JESMSGLG dd sysout=a,free=close,spin=unalloc
> 
> in my ims proc and then recycle ims and then issue
> $t job,imsproc,spin,ddname=JESMSGLG
> Command to spin JESMSGLG.
>  
The JCL Ref. lists several DDNAMES not available for general use:
Special ddnames
The special data sets are identified by the following ddnames:
JOBLIB 
STEPLIB 
SYSABEND 
SYSCHK 
SYSCKEOV 
SYSIN 
SYSMDUMP 
SYSUDUMP

SDSF also shows me several (pseudo?) DDNAMEs such as
JESJCL, JESYSMSG, and JESMSGLG.  What happens if the
programmer attempts to override one of these, e.g. by
directing it to a catalogued data set or a UNIX file?

The JCL Ref. indicates that they are available to the
//*FORMAT PR statement.

("//*FORMAT PR" looks uncomfortably like a comment.  Is
this a reserved comment?  Ugh!)

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Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset

[venkat kulkarni]

Hello Lizette,



Sorry for consuming lots of time on this issue. But, I wanted to get
clarity on very basic like,



1) If I see more records in one of the JES* DD statement Ex : JESMSGLG  in
my IMS address space and I want to spin this messages from this address
space and put it in one dataset

and also after spin, all these messages should be no longer exist in this
imsproc.



  SDSF JOB DATA SET DISPLAY - JOB IMS12IMS (STC01559)LINE 1-5
(5)

 COMMAND INPUT ===>SCROLL ===>
CSR

 PREFIX=DBC*  DEST=(ALL)  OWNER=*  SYSNAME=


 NP   DDNAME   StepName ProcStep DSID OwnerC Dest   Rec-Cnt
Page

  JESMSGLG JES2 2 STCCICT  Z
5

  JESJCL   JES2 3 STCCICT  Z
229

  JESYSMSG JES2 4 STCCICT  Z
3

  JESMSGLG JES2   103 STCCICT  Z
869

  JESYSMSG JES2   104 STCCICT  Z
0



To make this process work, do I need to code DD statement in IMS proc like
below



//JESMSGLG DD SYSOUT=A,FREE=CLOSE,SPIN=UNALLOC



before running spin command  ex : $T IMS12IMS,SPIN,DD=JESMSGLG



or there is no need to code this  //JESMSGLG DD
SYSOUT=A,FREE=CLOSE,SPIN=UNALLOC
DD statement inside IMS proc.



I am asking this query because, currently in my IMS proc, I have only below
DD statement



//STEPLIB  DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR

//PROCLIB  DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR

//DFSOLP00 DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR

//DFSOLP01 DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR

//DFSOLP99 DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR

//DFSWADS0 DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR

//DFSWADS1 DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR

//IMSACBA  DD DSN=IMS1.V120.ACBLIBA,DISP=SHR

//IMSACBB  DD DSN=IMS1.V120.ACBLIBB,DISP=SHR

//MODBLKSA DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR

//MODBLKSB DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR

//MODSTAT  DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR

//SYSUDUMP DD SYSOUT=,

//IMSRDS   DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR

//MATRIXA  DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR

//MATRIXB  DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR

//PRINTDD  DD SYSOUT=

//IMSMON   DD DSN=IMS1.V120.IMSMON,DISP=SHR

//DFSESL   DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR



and when I run $T IMS12IMS,SPIN,DD=JESMSGLG command, I see all record line
comes to zero in address space or JESMSGLG DD but system create one more DD
with same name JESMSGLG,

but I am not sure how this happens ??



And SPIN command output never complete and i just get below message but
never received message saying " SPIN successfully completed."



$T IMS12IMS,SPIN,DD=JESMSGLG



$HASP890 JOB(DBCY2RC3) 878

$HASP890 JOB(DBCY2RC3)  STATUS=(EXECUTING/TST4),CLASS=STC,

$HASP890PRIORITY=15,SYSAFF=(TST4),HOLD=(NONE)





Now, my another query is , when I run this SPIN command and my DD JESMSGLG
record comes to zero then where all these message gone. Are they purged or
I can view them.



I tried looking at output but I don’t find any print named IMS12IMS .



Can you please guide me with this whole process



On 09-May-2017 10:42 AM, "venkat kulkarni" <venkatkulkarn...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Yes. It's not.so I should code jesmsglg dd stmt as
> //JESMSGLG dd sysout=a,free=close,spin=unalloc
>
>  in my ims proc and then recycle ims and then issue
> $t job,imsproc,spin,ddname=JESMSGLG
> Command to spin JESMSGLG.
>
> Please correct me, if my understanding is wrong.
> Also, suggest after this spin , how to remove those many record from JESMSGLG
> dd which we just spin .
>
> On 09-May-2017 9:40 AM, "Gibney, Dave" <gib...@wsu.edu> wrote:
>
>> There is no DD named JCLOUT.
>> There is nothing (aside from the JESx) to SPIN.
>> Why do you want to spin job?
>>
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
>> > On Behalf Of venkat kulkarni
>> > Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 10:44 PM
>> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>> > Subject: Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset
>> >
>> > Hello All,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks for reply. I looked at my IMS proc and looks like below.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > BROWSESYS1.DEVL.PROCLIB(IMS12IMS) - 01.05Line  Col
>> 001
>> > 080
>> >
>> >  Command ===>  Scroll
>> ===>
>> > CSR
>> >
>> > * Top of Data
>> > **
>> > 
>> >
>> > //   PROC RGN=0M,SOUT=A,
>> >
>> > //SYS=,SYS2=,
>> >
>> > //RGSUF=DBC,PARM1='AUTO=N',
>> >
>> > //PARM2=
>> >
>> > //IEFPROC EXEC PGM=DFSMVRC0,REGION=,
>> >
>> > //PARM='DBC,,,'
>> >
>> > //*
>> >
>> > //S

Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset

[venkat kulkarni]

Yes. It's not.so I should code jesmsglg dd stmt as
//JESMSGLG dd sysout=a,free=close,spin=unalloc

 in my ims proc and then recycle ims and then issue
$t job,imsproc,spin,ddname=JESMSGLG
Command to spin JESMSGLG.

Please correct me, if my understanding is wrong.
Also, suggest after this spin , how to remove those many record from JESMSGLG
dd which we just spin .

On 09-May-2017 9:40 AM, "Gibney, Dave" <gib...@wsu.edu> wrote:

> There is no DD named JCLOUT.
> There is nothing (aside from the JESx) to SPIN.
> Why do you want to spin job?
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> > On Behalf Of venkat kulkarni
> > Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 10:44 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset
> >
> > Hello All,
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for reply. I looked at my IMS proc and looks like below.
> >
> >
> >
> > BROWSESYS1.DEVL.PROCLIB(IMS12IMS) - 01.05Line  Col
> 001
> > 080
> >
> >  Command ===>  Scroll
> ===>
> > CSR
> >
> > * Top of Data
> > **
> > 
> >
> > //   PROC RGN=0M,SOUT=A,
> >
> > //SYS=,SYS2=,
> >
> > //RGSUF=DBC,PARM1='AUTO=N',
> >
> > //PARM2=
> >
> > //IEFPROC EXEC PGM=DFSMVRC0,REGION=,
> >
> > //PARM='DBC,,,'
> >
> > //*
> >
> > //STEPLIB  DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR
> >
> > //PROCLIB  DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR
> >
> > //*
> >
> > //IMSIRD   DD SYSOUT=(A,INTRDR)
> >
> > //*
> >
> > //*
> >
> > //DFSOLP00 DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR
> >
> > //DFSOLP01 DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR
> >
> > //DFSOLP99 DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR
> >
> > //*
> >
> > //DFSWADS0 DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR
> >
> > //DFSWADS1 DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR
> >
> > //*
> >
> > //IMSACBA  DD DSN=IMS1.V120.ACBLIBA,DISP=SHR
> >
> > //*DD DSN=DBCR.V120.ACBLIB.FAID,DISP=SHR
> >
> > //IMSACBB  DD DSN=IMS1.V120.ACBLIBB,DISP=SHR
> >
> > //*DD DSN=DBCR.V120.ACBLIB.FAID,DISP=SHR
> >
> > //MODBLKSA DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR
> >
> > //MODBLKSB DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR
> >
> > //MODSTAT  DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR
> >
> > // SYSTEM REQUIRED DD CARDS **
> >
> > //*
> >
> > //SYSUDUMP DD SYSOUT=,
> >
> > // DCB=(LRECL=125,RECFM=FBA,BLKSIZE=3129),
> >
> > // SPACE=(6050,300,,,ROUND)
> >
> > //IMSRDS   DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR
> >
> > //MATRIXA  DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR
> >
> > //MATRIXB  DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR
> >
> > //PRINTDD  DD SYSOUT=
> >
> > //*
> >
> > //IMSMON   DD DSN=IMS1.V120.IMSMON,DISP=SHR
> >
> >
> > //** EXTERNAL SUBSYSTEM DD CARDS  ***
> >
> > //*
> >
> > //* USER MAY OPTIONALLY ADD THE DFSESL DD CARD
> >
> > //* FOR EXTERNAL SUBSYSTEM CONNECTION.
> >
> > //*
> >
> > //DFSESL   DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR
> >
> > // DATA BASE DD CARDS ***
> >
> >  Bottom of Data
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> > And in DA, I see this
> >
> >
> >
> > COMMAND INPUT ===>
> >
> > PREFIX=IMS12IMS  DEST=(ALL)  OWNER=*  SYSNAME=
> >
> > NP   DDNAME   StepName ProcStep DSID OwnerC Dest
> >
> >  JESMSGLG JES2 2STCBRCR  Z
> >
> >  JESJCL   JES2 3 STCBRCR  Z
> >
> >  JESYSMSG JES2 4STCBRCR  Z
> >
> >  JESMSGLG JES2   104STCBRCR  Z
> >
> >  JESYSMSG JES2   105STCBRCR  Z
> >
> >
> >
> > So, I don’t have any other SYSOUT withSYSOUT=*   or SYSOUT=A as you can
> > see
> > in the above mentioned proc.
> >
> >
> >
> > So, can you please suggest, what are all change I need to make for spin
> to
> > work .
> >
> > I think, I will also have to addFREE=CLOSE,SPIN=UNALLOC in this IMS proc
> DD,
> > So that spin function can work. Because, currently when I run spin
> command
> > like below,
> >
> > $T JQ(IMS12RC3),SPIN,DDNAME=JCLOUT
> >

Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset

[Gibney, Dave]

There is no DD named JCLOUT.
There is nothing (aside from the JESx) to SPIN.
Why do you want to spin job? 

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> On Behalf Of venkat kulkarni
> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 10:44 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks for reply. I looked at my IMS proc and looks like below.
> 
> 
> 
> BROWSESYS1.DEVL.PROCLIB(IMS12IMS) - 01.05Line  Col 001
> 080
> 
>  Command ===>  Scroll ===>
> CSR
> 
> * Top of Data
> **
> 
> 
> //   PROC RGN=0M,SOUT=A,
> 
> //SYS=,SYS2=,
> 
> //RGSUF=DBC,PARM1='AUTO=N',
> 
> //PARM2=
> 
> //IEFPROC EXEC PGM=DFSMVRC0,REGION=,
> 
> //PARM='DBC,,,'
> 
> //*
> 
> //STEPLIB  DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR
> 
> //PROCLIB  DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR
> 
> //*
> 
> //IMSIRD   DD SYSOUT=(A,INTRDR)
> 
> //*
> 
> //*
> 
> //DFSOLP00 DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR
> 
> //DFSOLP01 DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR
> 
> //DFSOLP99 DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR
> 
> //*
> 
> //DFSWADS0 DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR
> 
> //DFSWADS1 DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR
> 
> //*
> 
> //IMSACBA  DD DSN=IMS1.V120.ACBLIBA,DISP=SHR
> 
> //*DD DSN=DBCR.V120.ACBLIB.FAID,DISP=SHR
> 
> //IMSACBB  DD DSN=IMS1.V120.ACBLIBB,DISP=SHR
> 
> //*DD DSN=DBCR.V120.ACBLIB.FAID,DISP=SHR
> 
> //MODBLKSA DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR
> 
> //MODBLKSB DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR
> 
> //MODSTAT  DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR
> 
> // SYSTEM REQUIRED DD CARDS **
> 
> //*
> 
> //SYSUDUMP DD SYSOUT=,
> 
> // DCB=(LRECL=125,RECFM=FBA,BLKSIZE=3129),
> 
> // SPACE=(6050,300,,,ROUND)
> 
> //IMSRDS   DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR
> 
> //MATRIXA  DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR
> 
> //MATRIXB  DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR
> 
> //PRINTDD  DD SYSOUT=
> 
> //*
> 
> //IMSMON   DD DSN=IMS1.V120.IMSMON,DISP=SHR
> 
> 
> //** EXTERNAL SUBSYSTEM DD CARDS  ***
> 
> //*
> 
> //* USER MAY OPTIONALLY ADD THE DFSESL DD CARD
> 
> //* FOR EXTERNAL SUBSYSTEM CONNECTION.
> 
> //*
> 
> //DFSESL   DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR
> 
> // DATA BASE DD CARDS ***
> 
>  Bottom of Data
> 
> 
> 
> 
> And in DA, I see this
> 
> 
> 
> COMMAND INPUT ===>
> 
> PREFIX=IMS12IMS  DEST=(ALL)  OWNER=*  SYSNAME=
> 
> NP   DDNAME   StepName ProcStep DSID OwnerC Dest
> 
>  JESMSGLG JES2 2STCBRCR  Z
> 
>  JESJCL   JES2 3 STCBRCR  Z
> 
>  JESYSMSG JES2 4STCBRCR  Z
> 
>  JESMSGLG JES2   104STCBRCR  Z
> 
>  JESYSMSG JES2   105STCBRCR  Z
> 
> 
> 
> So, I don’t have any other SYSOUT withSYSOUT=*   or SYSOUT=A as you can
> see
> in the above mentioned proc.
> 
> 
> 
> So, can you please suggest, what are all change I need to make for spin to
> work .
> 
> I think, I will also have to addFREE=CLOSE,SPIN=UNALLOC in this IMS proc DD,
> So that spin function can work. Because, currently when I run spin command
> like below,
> 
> $T JQ(IMS12RC3),SPIN,DDNAME=JCLOUT
> 
> 
> 
> I just get output as below.
> 
> 
> 
> and output from this command is
> 
> RESPONSE=TST4
> 
> $HASP890 JOB(IMS12RC3)
> 
>  $HASP890 JOB(IMS12RC3)  STATUS=(EXECUTING/TST4),CLASS=STC,
> 
>  $HASP890PRIORITY=15,SYSAFF=(TST4),HOLD=(NONE)
> 
> 
> 
> But this doesn’t show that spin successfully completed or not.
> 
> 
> 
> I tried to provide you as much as detail this time. Can you please suggest,
> how spin will work looking at my current proc
> 
> 
> 
> On 08-May-2017 6:14 PM, "Barkow, Eileen" <ebar...@doitt.nyc.gov> wrote:
> 
> > As I explained to Vekat, he can use the  SDSF/REXX clist I  gave him
> > to extract and archive the SYSOUT queue to a dataset as allocated in the
> clist.
> > Then the clist can issue a command like:
> >
> > $TSTC04306,SPIN,DDNAME=DDNTOSPIN
> > To drain the queue.
> >
> > The clist has the started task number to use for the $Tstcno,SPIN
> command.
> > Code can also be added to extract the number of existing lines in the
> > DDNAME to determine whether or not to

Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset

[venkat kulkarni]

Hello All,



Thanks for reply. I looked at my IMS proc and looks like below.



BROWSESYS1.DEVL.PROCLIB(IMS12IMS) - 01.05Line  Col 001
080

 Command ===>  Scroll ===>
CSR

* Top of Data **


//   PROC RGN=0M,SOUT=A,

//SYS=,SYS2=,

//RGSUF=DBC,PARM1='AUTO=N',

//PARM2=

//IEFPROC EXEC PGM=DFSMVRC0,REGION=,

//PARM='DBC,,,'

//*

//STEPLIB  DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR

//PROCLIB  DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR

//*

//IMSIRD   DD SYSOUT=(A,INTRDR)

//*

//*

//DFSOLP00 DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR

//DFSOLP01 DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR

//DFSOLP99 DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR

//*

//DFSWADS0 DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR

//DFSWADS1 DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR

//*

//IMSACBA  DD DSN=IMS1.V120.ACBLIBA,DISP=SHR

//*DD DSN=DBCR.V120.ACBLIB.FAID,DISP=SHR

//IMSACBB  DD DSN=IMS1.V120.ACBLIBB,DISP=SHR

//*DD DSN=DBCR.V120.ACBLIB.FAID,DISP=SHR

//MODBLKSA DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR

//MODBLKSB DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR

//MODSTAT  DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR

// SYSTEM REQUIRED DD CARDS **

//*

//SYSUDUMP DD SYSOUT=,

// DCB=(LRECL=125,RECFM=FBA,BLKSIZE=3129),

// SPACE=(6050,300,,,ROUND)

//IMSRDS   DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR

//MATRIXA  DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR

//MATRIXB  DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR

//PRINTDD  DD SYSOUT=

//*

//IMSMON   DD DSN=IMS1.V120.IMSMON,DISP=SHR


//** EXTERNAL SUBSYSTEM DD CARDS  ***

//*

//* USER MAY OPTIONALLY ADD THE DFSESL DD CARD

//* FOR EXTERNAL SUBSYSTEM CONNECTION.

//*

//DFSESL   DD DSN=IMS1.V120.,DISP=SHR

// DATA BASE DD CARDS ***

 Bottom of Data




And in DA, I see this



COMMAND INPUT ===>

PREFIX=IMS12IMS  DEST=(ALL)  OWNER=*  SYSNAME=

NP   DDNAME   StepName ProcStep DSID OwnerC Dest

 JESMSGLG JES2 2STCBRCR  Z

 JESJCL   JES2 3 STCBRCR  Z

 JESYSMSG JES2 4STCBRCR  Z

 JESMSGLG JES2   104STCBRCR  Z

 JESYSMSG JES2   105STCBRCR  Z



So, I don’t have any other SYSOUT withSYSOUT=*   or SYSOUT=A as you can see
in the above mentioned proc.



So, can you please suggest, what are all change I need to make for spin to
work .

I think, I will also have to addFREE=CLOSE,SPIN=UNALLOC in this IMS proc
DD, So that spin function can work. Because, currently when I run spin
command like below,

$T JQ(IMS12RC3),SPIN,DDNAME=JCLOUT



I just get output as below.



and output from this command is

RESPONSE=TST4

$HASP890 JOB(IMS12RC3)

 $HASP890 JOB(IMS12RC3)  STATUS=(EXECUTING/TST4),CLASS=STC,

 $HASP890PRIORITY=15,SYSAFF=(TST4),HOLD=(NONE)



But this doesn’t show that spin successfully completed or not.



I tried to provide you as much as detail this time. Can you please suggest,
how spin will work looking at my current proc



On 08-May-2017 6:14 PM, "Barkow, Eileen" <ebar...@doitt.nyc.gov> wrote:

> As I explained to Vekat, he can use the  SDSF/REXX clist I  gave him to
> extract and archive the SYSOUT queue to a dataset as allocated in the clist.
> Then the clist can issue a command like:
>
> $TSTC04306,SPIN,DDNAME=DDNTOSPIN
> To drain the queue.
>
> The clist has the started task number to use for the $Tstcno,SPIN  command.
> Code can also be added to extract the number of existing lines in the
> DDNAME to determine whether or not to spin it.
> Any DDNAME can be specified.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of venkat kulkarni
> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 3:34 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset
>
> Just to add one more thing . Under ims12rc3 address space , below are dd
> name available.
>
> COMMAND INPUT ===>
>
> PREFIX=*  DEST=(ALL)  OWNER=*
>
> NP   DDNAME   StepName ProcSte
>
>  JESMSGLG JES2
>
>  JESJCL   JES2
>
>  JESYSMSG JES2
>
>  JESMSGLG JES2
>
>  JESYSMSG JES2
>
> On 08-May-2017 10:25 AM, "venkat kulkarni" <venkatkulkarn...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Thanks for all suggestion and sorry for not being more precise. Our
> > requirement is
> >
> >
> >
> > 1) Any address space (STC) running continously and  producing more number
> > of linee, we would like to cut lines on regulalr basis and put it in
> > seperate dataset and keep appending data
> >
> > on regulalr basis.
> >
> >
> >
> > 2) But I am not aware of this process of doing this task. But after all
> > our discussion, I did as below.
> >

Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset

[Barkow, Eileen]

As I explained to Vekat, he can use the  SDSF/REXX clist I  gave him to extract 
and archive the SYSOUT queue to a dataset as allocated in the clist.
Then the clist can issue a command like:

$TSTC04306,SPIN,DDNAME=DDNTOSPIN
To drain the queue.

The clist has the started task number to use for the $Tstcno,SPIN  command.
Code can also be added to extract the number of existing lines in the DDNAME to 
determine whether or not to spin it.
Any DDNAME can be specified.


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of venkat kulkarni
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 3:34 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset

Just to add one more thing . Under ims12rc3 address space , below are dd
name available.

COMMAND INPUT ===>

PREFIX=*  DEST=(ALL)  OWNER=*

NP   DDNAME   StepName ProcSte

 JESMSGLG JES2

 JESJCL   JES2

 JESYSMSG JES2

 JESMSGLG JES2

 JESYSMSG JES2

On 08-May-2017 10:25 AM, "venkat kulkarni" <venkatkulkarn...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> Thanks for all suggestion and sorry for not being more precise. Our
> requirement is
>
>
>
> 1) Any address space (STC) running continously and  producing more number
> of linee, we would like to cut lines on regulalr basis and put it in
> seperate dataset and keep appending data
>
> on regulalr basis.
>
>
>
> 2) But I am not aware of this process of doing this task. But after all
> our discussion, I did as below.
>
>
>
> I looked at IMS12RC3 proc in proclib library and noticed one of SYSOUT DD
> statement as below
>
>
>
> //JCLOUT   DD SYSOUT=(A,INTRDR)
>
>
>
> Job IMS12RC3 is,
>
>
>
> BROWSESYS1.DEVL.PROCLIB(IMS12RC3) - 01.03Line 000
>
>
>
> * Top of Data 
> Show quoted text
>
> and then I used below command to spin IMS12RC3 address space  lines and
> put it in dataset.
>
>
>
> $T JQ(IMS12RC3),SPIN,DDNAME=JCLOUT
>
>
>
> and output from this command is
>
>
>
> RESPONSE=TST4
>
>  $HASP890 JOB(IMS12RC3)
>
>  $HASP890 JOB(IMS12RC3)  STATUS=(EXECUTING/TST4),CLASS=STC,
>
>  $HASP890PRIORITY=15,SYSAFF=(TST4),HOLD=(NONE)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> But I think my understanding is wrong somehow but not able to point out
> the issue.
>
>
>
>  I think, the flow of this process will be use SPIN command to cut lines
> from running address space to spool and then from spool, we should copy to
> dataset.
>
>
>
>  As I am new in this process, please help me with the required steps to be
> performed to achieve this.
>
> On 08-May-2017 8:51 AM, "Peter Hunkeler" <p...@gmx.ch> wrote:
>
>>
>> > Started tasks?  TSO sessions?  UNIX forked (BPXAS) address spaces?
>>
>>
>> What do you want to say by this??
>>
>>
>> --
>> Peter Hunkeler
>>
>>
>>
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Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset

[Lizette Koehler]

So there is nothing to SPIN.

Instead of using JCLOUT which is an INTRDR (Very different than a normal SYSOUT 
statement)

Find a task that uses SYSOUT=*   or SYSOUT=A  (Or some similar OUTPUT CLASS)

Then try your $T command again

1)  Verify there is output in the DD statement by following the steps provided
   a)  DA OSTC Screen
   b)  ? next to the Running task
   c)  Verify the DD statement has output by entering S next to the DD 
statement (Other than a JES prefixed DD)
2)  Next, issue the SPIN command that you want against that output

3)  See if there is a JES2 message indicating output has been actioned
   a)  When spinning remember it will still be in the Spool.  Instead 
check the OUTPUT Panel  O  to see if it is there


Remember we cannot access your shop.  You need to experiment based on the 
feedback you get.  Read up on the $T command in the JES2 manuals to understand 
what it does, and what you should expect for the results.


Lizette


> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of venkat kulkarni
> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 12:34 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset
> 
> Just to add one more thing . Under ims12rc3 address space , below are dd name
> available.
> 
> COMMAND INPUT ===>
> 
> PREFIX=*  DEST=(ALL)  OWNER=*
> 
> NP   DDNAME   StepName ProcSte
> 
>  JESMSGLG JES2
> 
>  JESJCL   JES2
> 
>  JESYSMSG JES2
> 
>  JESMSGLG JES2
> 
>  JESYSMSG JES2
> 
> On 08-May-2017 10:25 AM, "venkat kulkarni" <venkatkulkarn...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> >
> > Thanks for all suggestion and sorry for not being more precise. Our
> > requirement is
> >
> >
> >
> > 1) Any address space (STC) running continously and  producing more
> > number of linee, we would like to cut lines on regulalr basis and put
> > it in seperate dataset and keep appending data
> >
> > on regulalr basis.
> >
> >
> >
> > 2) But I am not aware of this process of doing this task. But after
> > all our discussion, I did as below.
> >
> >
> >
> > I looked at IMS12RC3 proc in proclib library and noticed one of SYSOUT
> > DD statement as below
> >
> >
> >
> > //JCLOUT   DD SYSOUT=(A,INTRDR)
> >
> >
> >
> > Job IMS12RC3 is,
> >
> >
> >
> > BROWSESYS1.DEVL.PROCLIB(IMS12RC3) - 01.03Line 000
> >
> >
> >
> > * Top of Data 
> > Show quoted text
> >
> > and then I used below command to spin IMS12RC3 address space  lines
> > and put it in dataset.
> >
> >
> >
> > $T JQ(IMS12RC3),SPIN,DDNAME=JCLOUT
> >
> >
> >
> > and output from this command is
> >
> >
> >
> > RESPONSE=TST4
> >
> >  $HASP890 JOB(IMS12RC3)
> >
> >  $HASP890 JOB(IMS12RC3)  STATUS=(EXECUTING/TST4),CLASS=STC,
> >
> >  $HASP890PRIORITY=15,SYSAFF=(TST4),HOLD=(NONE)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > But I think my understanding is wrong somehow but not able to point
> > out the issue.
> >
> >
> >
> >  I think, the flow of this process will be use SPIN command to cut
> > lines from running address space to spool and then from spool, we
> > should copy to dataset.
> >
> >
> >
> >  As I am new in this process, please help me with the required steps
> > to be performed to achieve this.
> >
> > On 08-May-2017 8:51 AM, "Peter Hunkeler" <p...@gmx.ch> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> > Started tasks?  TSO sessions?  UNIX forked (BPXAS) address spaces?
> >>
> >>
> >> What do you want to say by this??
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Peter Hunkeler
> >>

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Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset

[venkat kulkarni]

Just to add one more thing . Under ims12rc3 address space , below are dd
name available.

COMMAND INPUT ===>

PREFIX=*  DEST=(ALL)  OWNER=*

NP   DDNAME   StepName ProcSte

 JESMSGLG JES2

 JESJCL   JES2

 JESYSMSG JES2

 JESMSGLG JES2

 JESYSMSG JES2

On 08-May-2017 10:25 AM, "venkat kulkarni" 
wrote:

>
> Thanks for all suggestion and sorry for not being more precise. Our
> requirement is
>
>
>
> 1) Any address space (STC) running continously and  producing more number
> of linee, we would like to cut lines on regulalr basis and put it in
> seperate dataset and keep appending data
>
> on regulalr basis.
>
>
>
> 2) But I am not aware of this process of doing this task. But after all
> our discussion, I did as below.
>
>
>
> I looked at IMS12RC3 proc in proclib library and noticed one of SYSOUT DD
> statement as below
>
>
>
> //JCLOUT   DD SYSOUT=(A,INTRDR)
>
>
>
> Job IMS12RC3 is,
>
>
>
> BROWSESYS1.DEVL.PROCLIB(IMS12RC3) - 01.03Line 000
>
>
>
> * Top of Data 
> Show quoted text
>
> and then I used below command to spin IMS12RC3 address space  lines and
> put it in dataset.
>
>
>
> $T JQ(IMS12RC3),SPIN,DDNAME=JCLOUT
>
>
>
> and output from this command is
>
>
>
> RESPONSE=TST4
>
>  $HASP890 JOB(IMS12RC3)
>
>  $HASP890 JOB(IMS12RC3)  STATUS=(EXECUTING/TST4),CLASS=STC,
>
>  $HASP890PRIORITY=15,SYSAFF=(TST4),HOLD=(NONE)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> But I think my understanding is wrong somehow but not able to point out
> the issue.
>
>
>
>  I think, the flow of this process will be use SPIN command to cut lines
> from running address space to spool and then from spool, we should copy to
> dataset.
>
>
>
>  As I am new in this process, please help me with the required steps to be
> performed to achieve this.
>
> On 08-May-2017 8:51 AM, "Peter Hunkeler"  wrote:
>
>>
>> > Started tasks?  TSO sessions?  UNIX forked (BPXAS) address spaces?
>>
>>
>> What do you want to say by this??
>>
>>
>> --
>> Peter Hunkeler
>>
>>
>>
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Re: AW: Re: job output into dataset

[venkat kulkarni]

Thanks for all suggestion and sorry for not being more precise. Our
requirement is



1) Any address space (STC) running continously and  producing more number
of linee, we would like to cut lines on regulalr basis and put it in
seperate dataset and keep appending data

on regulalr basis.



2) But I am not aware of this process of doing this task. But after all our
discussion, I did as below.



I looked at IMS12RC3 proc in proclib library and noticed one of SYSOUT DD
statement as below



//JCLOUT   DD SYSOUT=(A,INTRDR)



Job IMS12RC3 is,



BROWSESYS1.DEVL.PROCLIB(IMS12RC3) - 01.03Line 000



* Top of Data 
Show quoted text

and then I used below command to spin IMS12RC3 address space  lines and put
it in dataset.



$T JQ(IMS12RC3),SPIN,DDNAME=JCLOUT



and output from this command is



RESPONSE=TST4

 $HASP890 JOB(IMS12RC3)

 $HASP890 JOB(IMS12RC3)  STATUS=(EXECUTING/TST4),CLASS=STC,

 $HASP890PRIORITY=15,SYSAFF=(TST4),HOLD=(NONE)







But I think my understanding is wrong somehow but not able to point out the
issue.



 I think, the flow of this process will be use SPIN command to cut lines
from running address space to spool and then from spool, we should copy to
dataset.



 As I am new in this process, please help me with the required steps to be
performed to achieve this.

On 08-May-2017 8:51 AM, "Peter Hunkeler"  wrote:

>
> > Started tasks?  TSO sessions?  UNIX forked (BPXAS) address spaces?
>
>
> What do you want to say by this??
>
>
> --
> Peter Hunkeler
>
>
>
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AW: Re: job output into dataset

[Peter Hunkeler]

> Started tasks?  TSO sessions?  UNIX forked (BPXAS) address spaces?


What do you want to say by this??


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