Re: iebcopy problem copy load from pdse to pds

2021-12-01 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka

W dniu 01.12.2021 o 14:36, Paul Gilmartin pisze:

On Wed, 1 Dec 2021 14:18:42 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:

... Program objects are quite old also.
So, I believe some other shop survived without PDSE cross-sysplex
sharing. Even those using Endeavor.


Program objects can reside in UNIX files.

UNIX files can be widely shared by NFS, oblivious to sysplex boundaries.

Is there a solution here?


While this is not my shop I cannot answer, however it seems there is no 
way to put unix directory in STEPLIB.
BTW: program object is one of the reasons for PDSE. However PDSE may be 
used for other reasons and there are still methods to avoid 
cross-sysplex sharing .


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Re: iebcopy problem copy load from pdse to pds

2021-12-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 1 Dec 2021 14:18:42 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:
>
>... Program objects are quite old also.
>So, I believe some other shop survived without PDSE cross-sysplex
>sharing. Even those using Endeavor.
>
Program objects can reside in UNIX files.

UNIX files can be widely shared by NFS, oblivious to sysplex boundaries.

Is there a solution here?

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Re: iebcopy problem copy load from pdse to pds

2021-12-01 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka

W dniu 23.11.2021 o 10:26, Gibney, Dave pisze:

The need for an ENDEVOR library to be a PDSE could be complicated if there is 
any need to share it outside of a sysplex


(aggressive mode on)
PDSE is quite old. Older than sysplex. It is known as replacement of PDS 
whenever new features are needed. Program objects are one of the 
features. Program objects are quite old also.
So, I believe some other shop survived without PDSE cross-sysplex 
sharing. Even those using Endeavor.
Yes, it is a little bit more complex than plain old PDS dataset sharing, 
but feasible. Oh, I did it 20+ years ago.

(time for my pills)
;-)

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Re: iebcopy problem copy load from pdse to pds

2021-11-23 Thread Seymour J Metz
You can't convert a program object to a load module if it uses new features. 
The target must be a PDSE.


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hello ,

There is a suggestion on how to do ?
It brings me back this error :

IEW2606S 4B39 MODULE INCORPORATES VERSION 3 PROGRAM OBJECT FEATURES AND CANNOT
BE SAVED IN LOAD MODULE FORMAT.


IEB1135I IEBCOPY  FMID HDZ2240  SERVICE LEVEL UJ00519  DATED 20190816 DFSMS 02.0
IEB1035I S172IEB1  IEBCOPY1 09:42:53 TUE 23 NOV 2021 PARM=''
  COPY  OUTDD=SYSUT2,INDD=((SYSUT1,R)),LIST=YES
  SELECT MEMBER=(M10SNCOB)
IEB1013I COPYING FROM PDSE  INDD=SYSUT1   VOL=TMD002 DSN=VMTF.LINKLIB
IEB1014I   TO PDS  OUTDD=SYSUT2   VOL=USL003 DSN=S172.SYSL.ENDEVOR.V17R0
IGW01207E BINDER DETECTED AN ERROR WHILE PROCESSING MEMBER M10SNCOB
.  BINDER RETURN CODE = X'000C' REASON CODE = X'83000422'
IGW01550I 0 OF 1 SPECIFIED  MEMBERS WERE COPIED
IEB1130W AN ERROR MESSAGE FROM FAMS PROCESSING APPEARS ABOVE -- DIAGNOSTIC INFOR
IEB151I JOB HAS TERMINATED WITH ERROR(S)
IEB147I END OF JOB - 4 WAS HIGHEST SEVERITY CODE

thanks , weizman

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Re: iebcopy problem copy load from pdse to pds

2021-11-23 Thread Seymour J Metz
Sort of; you can't physically copy a program object to a PDS, but subject to 
some significant restrictions you can create an equivalent load module using 
IEBCOPY or the binder. Chances are that the library is a PDSE because some 
members have features that require it.


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The message is pretty clear: Your VTMF.LINKLIB is a PDSE that contains program 
objects, and you can't put those into a PDS - the target library 
(S172.SYSL.ENDEVOR.V17R0 in this case) MUST be a PDSE.

At a wild guess, based purely on the member name being copied (M10SNCOB here), 
it's a COBOL program that's been compiled under COBOL v5 or later, and so 
requires a PDSE as the target library for the executable.

Andy Styles
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hello ,

There is a suggestion on how to do ?
It brings me back this error :

IEW2606S 4B39 MODULE INCORPORATES VERSION 3 PROGRAM OBJECT FEATURES AND CANNOT 
BE SAVED IN LOAD MODULE FORMAT.


IEB1135I IEBCOPY  FMID HDZ2240  SERVICE LEVEL UJ00519  DATED 20190816 DFSMS 02.0
IEB1035I S172IEB1  IEBCOPY1 09:42:53 TUE 23 NOV 2021 PARM=''
  COPY  OUTDD=SYSUT2,INDD=((SYSUT1,R)),LIST=YES
  SELECT MEMBER=(M10SNCOB)
IEB1013I COPYING FROM PDSE  INDD=SYSUT1   VOL=TMD002 DSN=VMTF.LINKLIB
IEB1014I   TO PDS  OUTDD=SYSUT2   VOL=USL003 DSN=S172.SYSL.ENDEVOR.V17R0
IGW01207E BINDER DETECTED AN ERROR WHILE PROCESSING MEMBER M10SNCOB
.  BINDER RETURN CODE = X'000C' REASON CODE = X'83000422'
IGW01550I 0 OF 1 SPECIFIED  MEMBERS WERE COPIED
IEB1130W AN ERROR MESSAGE FROM FAMS PROCESSING APPEARS ABOVE -- DIAGNOSTIC INFOR
IEB151I JOB HAS TERMINATED WITH ERROR(S)
IEB147I END OF JOB - 4 WAS HIGHEST SEVERITY CODE

thanks , weizman

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Re: iebcopy problem copy load from pdse to pds

2021-11-23 Thread Gibney, Dave
The need for an ENDEVOR library to be a PDSE could be complicated if there is 
any need to share it outside of a sysplex

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On
> Behalf Of Styles, Andy (ITS zPlatform Services)
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2021 12:10 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: iebcopy problem copy load from pdse to pds
> 
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> 
> The message is pretty clear: Your VTMF.LINKLIB is a PDSE that contains
> program objects, and you can't put those into a PDS - the target library
> (S172.SYSL.ENDEVOR.V17R0 in this case) MUST be a PDSE.
> 
> At a wild guess, based purely on the member name being copied
> (M10SNCOB here), it's a COBOL program that's been compiled under COBOL
> v5 or later, and so requires a PDSE as the target library for the executable.
> 
> Andy Styles
> z/Series System Programmer
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On
> Behalf Of Weizman arbel
> Sent: 23 November 2021 08:00
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> Subject: iebcopy problem copy load from pdse to pds
> 
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> hello ,
> 
> There is a suggestion on how to do ?
> It brings me back this error :
> 
> IEW2606S 4B39 MODULE INCORPORATES VERSION 3 PROGRAM OBJECT
> FEATURES AND CANNOT BE SAVED IN LOAD MODULE FORMAT.
> 
> 
> IEB1135I IEBCOPY  FMID HDZ2240  SERVICE LEVEL UJ00519  DATED 20190816
> DFSMS 02.0
> IEB1035I S172IEB1  IEBCOPY1 09:42:53 TUE 23 NOV 2021 PARM=''
>   COPY  OUTDD=SYSUT2,INDD=((SYSUT1,R)),LIST=YES
>   SELECT MEMBER=(M10SNCOB)
> IEB1013I COPYING FROM PDSE  INDD=SYSUT1   VOL=TMD002
> DSN=VMTF.LINKLIB
> IEB1014I   TO PDS  OUTDD=SYSUT2   VOL=USL003
> DSN=S172.SYSL.ENDEVOR.V17R0
> IGW01207E BINDER DETECTED AN ERROR WHILE PROCESSING MEMBER
> M10SNCOB
> .  BINDER RETURN CODE = X'000C' REASON CODE = X'83000422'
> IGW01550I 0 OF 1 SPECIFIED  MEMBERS WERE COPIED
> IEB1130W AN ERROR MESSAGE FROM FAMS PROCESSING APPEARS ABOVE --
> DIAGNOSTIC INFOR
> IEB151I JOB HAS TERMINATED WITH ERROR(S)
> IEB147I END OF JOB - 4 WAS HIGHEST SEVERITY CODE
> 
> thanks , weizman
> 
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Re: iebcopy problem copy load from pdse to pds

2021-11-23 Thread Styles, Andy (ITS zPlatform Services)
Classification: Public

The message is pretty clear: Your VTMF.LINKLIB is a PDSE that contains program 
objects, and you can't put those into a PDS - the target library 
(S172.SYSL.ENDEVOR.V17R0 in this case) MUST be a PDSE. 

At a wild guess, based purely on the member name being copied (M10SNCOB here), 
it's a COBOL program that's been compiled under COBOL v5 or later, and so 
requires a PDSE as the target library for the executable.

Andy Styles
z/Series System Programmer

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
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To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: iebcopy problem copy load from pdse to pds

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hello ,

There is a suggestion on how to do ?
It brings me back this error :

IEW2606S 4B39 MODULE INCORPORATES VERSION 3 PROGRAM OBJECT FEATURES AND CANNOT 
BE SAVED IN LOAD MODULE FORMAT.


IEB1135I IEBCOPY  FMID HDZ2240  SERVICE LEVEL UJ00519  DATED 20190816 DFSMS 02.0
IEB1035I S172IEB1  IEBCOPY1 09:42:53 TUE 23 NOV 2021 PARM=''
  COPY  OUTDD=SYSUT2,INDD=((SYSUT1,R)),LIST=YES 
  SELECT MEMBER=(M10SNCOB)  
IEB1013I COPYING FROM PDSE  INDD=SYSUT1   VOL=TMD002 DSN=VMTF.LINKLIB   
IEB1014I   TO PDS  OUTDD=SYSUT2   VOL=USL003 DSN=S172.SYSL.ENDEVOR.V17R0
IGW01207E BINDER DETECTED AN ERROR WHILE PROCESSING MEMBER M10SNCOB 
.  BINDER RETURN CODE = X'000C' REASON CODE = X'83000422'   
IGW01550I 0 OF 1 SPECIFIED  MEMBERS WERE COPIED 
IEB1130W AN ERROR MESSAGE FROM FAMS PROCESSING APPEARS ABOVE -- DIAGNOSTIC INFOR
IEB151I JOB HAS TERMINATED WITH ERROR(S)
IEB147I END OF JOB - 4 WAS HIGHEST SEVERITY CODE   

thanks , weizman 

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subsidiary of Lloyds Bank Corporate Markets plc. Lloyds Bank Corporate Markets 
Wertpapierhandelsbank GmbH has its registered office at Thurn-und-Taxis Platz 
6, 60313 Frankfurt, Germany. The company is registered with the Amtsgericht 
Frankfurt am Main, HRB 111650. Lloyds Bank Corporate Markets 
Wertpapierhandelsbank GmbH is supervised by the Bundesanstalt für 
Finanzdienstleistungsaufsicht.

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iebcopy problem copy load from pdse to pds

2021-11-23 Thread Weizman arbel
hello ,

There is a suggestion on how to do ?
It brings me back this error :

IEW2606S 4B39 MODULE INCORPORATES VERSION 3 PROGRAM OBJECT FEATURES AND CANNOT
BE SAVED IN LOAD MODULE FORMAT.


IEB1135I IEBCOPY  FMID HDZ2240  SERVICE LEVEL UJ00519  DATED 20190816 DFSMS 02.0
IEB1035I S172IEB1  IEBCOPY1 09:42:53 TUE 23 NOV 2021 PARM=''
  COPY  OUTDD=SYSUT2,INDD=((SYSUT1,R)),LIST=YES 
  SELECT MEMBER=(M10SNCOB)  
IEB1013I COPYING FROM PDSE  INDD=SYSUT1   VOL=TMD002 DSN=VMTF.LINKLIB   
IEB1014I   TO PDS  OUTDD=SYSUT2   VOL=USL003 DSN=S172.SYSL.ENDEVOR.V17R0
IGW01207E BINDER DETECTED AN ERROR WHILE PROCESSING MEMBER M10SNCOB 
.  BINDER RETURN CODE = X'000C' REASON CODE = X'83000422'   
IGW01550I 0 OF 1 SPECIFIED  MEMBERS WERE COPIED 
IEB1130W AN ERROR MESSAGE FROM FAMS PROCESSING APPEARS ABOVE -- DIAGNOSTIC INFOR
IEB151I JOB HAS TERMINATED WITH ERROR(S)
IEB147I END OF JOB - 4 WAS HIGHEST SEVERITY CODE   

thanks , weizman

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