Re: External Page Usage
We were running 4.3. We are running 5.2 now. We didn't notice any increase in PAGE pack use, i.e, increased paging or physically using more page space. PAGE space allocation remained the same. Steve G. Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 08/09/2006 03:49 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc: Subject:External Page Usage With our current configuration - 36GB main, 26GB XSTORE, 19 3390-03s for paging, we saw very low numbers ( 10%) when we entered Q ALLOC PAGE while running 4.4. Now, on 5.2, the results of the query show about 50% of the space is in use. Is this normal? Regards, Richard Schuh
Re: A question about z/VM and windoze
Thank you to all that replied. I guess I was wrong and it can be done. Bu t if done, it is done poorly. I'll do some reseach on Bochs(?) and report to my management with what yo u said and what I found out. thanks Mace
Re: A question about z/VM and windoze
You're welcome, Mace. Information on Bochs can be found here: http://bochs.sourceforge.net/ Let us know what your research reveals and how your management reacts. DJ =?iso-8859-1?Q?Larry_Macioce?= wrote: Thank you to all that replied. I guess I was wrong and it can be done. But if done, it is done poorly. I'll do some reseach on Bochs(?) and report to my management with what you said and what I found out. thanks Mace
Re: MP3000 for sale
What model exactly and how much? From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Antoon Vekeman Sent: Thu 8/10/2006 2:53 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: MP3000 for sale We have migrated our MP3000-P30 to a FLEX/ES environment. We offer the = MP3000 for sale. Contact us offline at [EMAIL PROTECTED] The MP3000 is located in Belgium.
Re: A question about z/VM and windoze
On 8/10/06, Adam Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So the answer, in any practical terms, is no, you can't do that. Unless the new POO has a Start Intel Execution instruction ;-p
Re: A question about z/VM and windoze
Wrong is not a fair description. I can put my love spuds in the open mouth of a lion and hit him on the head. If you said I couldn't you'd be wrong, but it makes about as much sense as trying to run x86 apps on a zSeries. -Original Message- Thank you to all that replied. I guess I was wrong and it can be done. Bu t if done, it is done poorly. I'll do some reseach on Bochs(?) and report to my management with what yo u said and what I found out.
Re: A question about z/VM and windoze
LOVE SPUDShahahahahaha My youngest son(when playing ball and get hit) calls them Mcnuggets I take it as putting a Yugo engine in a Lambo. It will make the car run but not well. Thanks Mace -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neale Ferguson Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 9:49 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: A question about z/VM and windoze Wrong is not a fair description. I can put my love spuds in the open mouth of a lion and hit him on the head. If you said I couldn't you'd be wrong, but it makes about as much sense as trying to run x86 apps on a zSeries. -Original Message- Thank you to all that replied. I guess I was wrong and it can be done. Bu t if done, it is done poorly. I'll do some reseach on Bochs(?) and report to my management with what yo u said and what I found out. - *** * The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. *** *
Re: z/VM 5.2 Dumps
Does Standalone Dump use the same formula? Is it smart enough to understand CP control blocks, or does it just dump all of storage? Standalone Dump dumps all resident, non-zero pages. This includes both CP and non-CP pages. The VM Dump Tool recognizes that CP has been dumped and allows the same commands to be issued as it does in hard abend dumps. John Franciscovich z/VM Development
Re: Secure access to resources
On Thursday, 08/10/2006 at 07:24 AST, Imler, Steven J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can use the VM:Tape USERSECR EXIT (assembler only) for a non-RACF solution. If you can issue CMS commands in the exit, then you can custom-build a RACF solution. The program would have to take as input the VM userid, the tape id, and requested access. Then build a RACROUTE call with the needed parameters. Et voila! Also, VM:Tape does have a RACF interface via PRODUCT RACF VM:Tape CONFIG FILE record. The VM:Tape SVM would need all appropriate authorizations to issue RACROUTE calls ... and of course you will have to code *all* the permits. If RACF defers to you, what do you do? Also, you can use generic profiles to, for example, deny access to all tapes except those specifically defined and PERMITed. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: Secure access to resources
On Thursday, 08/10/2006 at 10:49 ZE2, Colin Allinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We use RACF as our ESM and I wondered if there was any API interface that could be called by user code to check validity of an access to a resource (I am not aware of such a beast). Yes. You will have to write an assembler (sorry) program to call the RACROUTE macro. I've been wanting to package up basic RACROUTE into a CSL routine, but haven't had the time. (sigh) btw: because the tapes are catalogued on VM we also have a problem securing them on MVS. RACF dataset protection may be the solution to this as well as we have a shared RACF database (if we can find a way to interface to RACF for this on VM). Shared RACF database with MVS is only possible if the MVS system is not in a sysplex. GRS on the MVS system must be configured to perform RESERVE/RELEASE on the volume in response to an ENQ/DEQ. Some tape managers (e.g. IBM Tape Manager for z/VM) can talk to DFSMSrmm on z/OS if you want to use the z/OS tape catalog. I would guess that VM:Tape has an equivalent function. (JR?) Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: Secure access to resources
If RACF defers to you, what do you do? Also, you can use generic profiles to, for example, deny access to all tapes except those specifically defined and PERMITed. Continue with normal VM:Tape authorization processing, which includes calling the USERSECR EXIT if the site has coded one and specified to do so, to determine if the requestor issue the command and/or access the resource. JR (Steven) Imler CA Senior Software Engineer Tel: +1 703 708 3479 Fax: +1 703 708 3267 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Secure access to resources
On Thursday, 08/10/2006 at 10:42 AST, Imler, Steven J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If RACF defers to you, what do you do? Also, you can use generic profiles to, for example, deny access to all tapes except those specifically defined and PERMITed. Continue with normal VM:Tape authorization processing, which includes calling the USERSECR EXIT if the site has coded one and specified to do so, to determine if the requestor issue the command and/or access the resource. That's a good way, then, to define only those tapes to RACF that you want RACF to control. Any tape not explicitly defined to RACF would have access controlled by VM:Tape itself or the user exit. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: Secure access to resources
RESERVE/RELEASE on the volume in response to an ENQ/DEQ. Some tape managers (e.g. IBM Tape Manager for z/VM) can talk to DFSMSrmm on z/OS if you want to use the z/OS tape catalog. I would guess that VM:Tape has an equivalent function. (JR?) Unfortunately ... not yet. I'm sure Mike W. will be reminding us of that shortly. JR (Steven) Imler CA Senior Software Engineer Tel: +1 703 708 3479 Fax: +1 703 708 3267 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Who has the tape drive ASSIGNed?
Jim, Sorry for the misunderstanding ... You are correct. The only system that can UNASSIGN the drive is the system that ASSIGNED it to itself (the purpose of the ASSIGN in the nutshell). The on one system reference I mentioned in my response to Alan was relative to the fact that his site runs CA MIM. With MIM you can issue a VARY OFF on any one system with the GLOBAL option. This tells MIM on *every* system to VARY the drive OFFLINE. Correspondingly, the VARY ONLINE can be issued with the GLOBAL option too. Because MIM does the VARY OFF/ON on *all* systems for you ... the ASSIGN is reset. As I pointed out, when using this method you wont necessarily know which system left the ASSIGN set. JR (Steven) Imler CA Senior Software Engineer Tel: +1 703 708 3479 Fax: +1 703 708 3267 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Bohnsack Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 11:09 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Who has the tape drive ASSIGNed? I tried both the VARY OFF/ON and RESET ASSIGN ON RDEV but neither seem to do anything if issued from a system other than where the ATTACH with ASSIGN command was issued. What did work was issuing the RESET ASSIGN command on the system with the ID owning the ASSIGN bit. Doing that I was able to ATTACH the drive to an id on the other system. Right now it's ATTACHed to an id on both systems. I understood from the following that you could reset the ASSIGN bit from any system. By the way, I am on z/VM 4.4 and was experimenting with a 3480. Jim At 07:10 PM 8/8/2006, you wrote: snip The other incantation that will reset the ASSIGN (other than CP RESET ASSIGN ON RDEV) is the CP VARY OFF/VARY ON sequence. Because you indicated you run MIM, you have to ability to issue a MIM command from one system to VARY OFF the drive on *all* systems, then VARY ON again. That's why the suggestion was offered to use that approach to minimize the effort to resolve the problem. Of course, what this doesn't do is identify the offending node with the bad application. If that's important to you, then I think you're stuck with the hunt-and-peck method of resolution. JR JR (Steven) Imler CA Senior Software Engineer Tel: +1 703 708 3479 Fax: +1 703 708 3267 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Ackerman Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 06:29 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Who has the tape drive ASSIGNed? I am informed that this particular case was NOT caused by CA-BAB. (We hav=3D e=20 had other cases.) We don't know what was the cause. z/OS isn't relevent here, though we have had similar error messages=20 involving sharing with z/OS at other times.=20 We have 3 VM systems, and 10 guests, involved. We issued: QUERY 366 (or QUERY TAPE FREE) on all systems that have access to 366. = =3D =20 Every system responded with TAPE 0366 FREE=20 ATTACH 366 * on some systems produced=20 Tape 0366 not attached; tape assigned elsewhere. Eventually we found a guest that allowed us to attach the tape, so we=20 assune that system had it assigned. We haven't the foggiest why -- that =3D system wasn't running anything special. I gather that CP (or VMTAPE) sends a CCW to the controller to get=20 the assigned elsewhere information. Is there any CCW to find out where =3D it IS assigned? Jim Bohnsack Cornell Univ. (607) 255-1760
Re: External Page Usage
More curiosity than anything. That seemed to be a drastic change in a number and I was wondering if it was normal or an indicator of a potential problem. I suspect it was the change in algorithm. Also, we have seen the number of TPF users increase by over 25% since we removed the 2G constraint. In any event, as long as page space occupancy doesn't go too much over 50% occupancy, I don't think I will worry about it. We bit that same page packs bullet before we threw money at the problem and jumped from 16G to 56G to eliminate dasd paging. Our numbers under 4.4 were about 50% before the storage increase. When the storage was later increased to 56G, the dasd usage was reduced to nearly 0 and practically all paging was between main and XSTORE. Now, we also see some dasd paging, but it is not anywhere close to a bothersome number. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alan Ackerman Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 9:47 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: External Page Usage We ran into something like this when we went from 4.4 to 5.1. We actually= ran out of page space. IBM pointed us to a page in a manual that said we should have enough page spa= ce for the sum of the size all our virtual machines. We Bit the bullet and got more page packs. I = don't remember details, but there were algorithm changes in 5.1. Once we added the page packs, I don'= t remember any actual problems with it. Do you really have a problem, or do you just not like the numbers you are= seeing? On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 13:49:00 -0700, Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote= : With our current configuration - 36GB main, 26GB XSTORE, 19 3390-03s for= paging, we saw very low numbers ( 10%) when we entered Q ALLOC PAGE while running 4.4. Now, = on 5.2, the results of the query show about 50% of the space is in use. Is this normal? Regards, Richard Schuh = == ===
Re: A question about z/VM and windoze
On Aug 10, 2006, at 6:56 AM, Macioce, Larry wrote: I take it as putting a Yugo engine in a Lambo. It will make the car run but not well. More like putting a moped engine in a locomotive, really. Adam
Re: IOCP Module
I had a similar problem . I upgraded my hcd but it didn't look as if it took. What you can try is 1)go into your hcd main panel and go to option 7(Query supported hardware and installed UIMs) 2)then 1(List supported processors)page through it and it will show you all processors that can be defined Of course this is on my mvs system. Good luck mace -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Pace, Mainline Information System Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 1:11 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: IOCP Module Should I be able to run the IOCP module against an IOCP deck created for a different processor than I am currently running on? I'm currently running on a 2006 and I am migrating to a 2094. I want to make the changes to copy of my IOCP deck and assemble to verify it's correct before I move it to the new processor. However when I replace SYSTEM=(2066,1) with SYSTEM=(2094,1) I get STATEMENTS PROCESSED BY IYP IOCP VERSION 1 RELEASE 2.0, LPAR=YES IDMSG1='IOC5070',SYSTEM=(2094,1) IYP150I INVALID SYSTEM PARAMETER I found APAR VM63921 and applied that to my z/VM 5.2 system. In my IOCP module I see H63921DS PUT UM31742 IOCP NEW FUNCTION But VM63921 says IOCP 1.4.0 but module still prints out 1.2.0 Any thoughts? Thanks! Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 Office: 850.219.5184 Fax: 888.221.9862 http://www.mainline.com This e-mail and files transmitted with it are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom this e-mail is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you are not one of the named recipient(s) or otherwise have reason to believe that you received this message in error, please immediately notify sender by e-mail, and destroy the original message. Thank You. - *** * The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. *** *
Re: IOCP Module
Yes. You just need to add the appropriate parm to the IOCP invocation to tell it which parser to use. IXP is used to cause IOCP to write an IOCDS for an non-EMIF processor IZP is used to cause IOCP to write an IOCDS for an EMIF-capable processor IYP is used to cause IOCP to write an IOCDS for a z900 processor ICP is used to cause IOCP to write an IOCDS for a z990 processor I don't know the correct option for a 2094 yet but you should be able to find it in the IOCP manual. I haven't been able to find a copy of the IOCP User's Guide for z9 but, if you have a machine, you should have the latest manual. Rick Barlow Systems Engineering Consultant Nationwide Services Co., Enterprise Business Intelligence Services Mainframe, z/VM and zSeries Linux Support One Nationwide Plaza 3-20-13 Columbus OH 43215-2220 U.S.A Voice: (614) 249-5213Fax: (614) 677-0821 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU wrote on 08/10/2006 01:10:45 PM: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Should I be able to run the IOCP module against an IOCP deck created for a different processor than I am currently running on? I'm currently running on a 2006 and I am migrating to a 2094. I want to make the changes to copy of my IOCP deck and assemble to verify it's correct before I move it to the new processor. However when I replace SYSTEM=(2066,1) with SYSTEM=(2094,1) I get STATEMENTS PROCESSED BY IYP IOCP VERSION 1 RELEASE 2.0, LPAR=YES IDMSG1='IOC5070',SYSTEM=(2094,1) IYP150I INVALID SYSTEM PARAMETER I found APAR VM63921 and applied that to my z/VM 5.2 system. In my IOCP module I see H63921DS PUT UM31742 IOCP NEW FUNCTION But VM63921 says IOCP 1.4.0 but module still prints out 1.2.0 Any thoughts? Thanks! Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 Office: 850.219.5184 Fax: 888.221.9862 http://www.mainline.com This e-mail and files transmitted with it are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom this e-mail is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you are not one of the named recipient(s) or otherwise have reason to believe that you received this message in error, please immediately notify sender by e-mail, and destroy the original message. Thank You.
Re: IOCP Module
You could use the ICP version of IOCP. It supports 2094. Brian Nielsen On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 13:10:45 -0400, Mark Pace, Mainline Information Syste m [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should I be able to run the IOCP module against an IOCP deck created for a different processor than I am currently running on? I'm currently running on a 2006 and I am migrating to a 2094. I want to make the changes to copy of my IOCP deck and assemble to verify it's correct before I move it to the new processor. However when I replace SYSTEM=(2066,1) with SYSTEM=(2094,1) I get STATEMENTS PROCESSED BY IYP IOCP VERSION 1 RELEASE 2.0, LPAR=YES IDMSG1='IOC5070',SYSTEM=(2094,1) IYP150I INVALID SYSTEM PARAMETER I found APAR VM63921 and applied that to my z/VM 5.2 system. In my IOCP module I see H63921DS PUT UM31742 IOCP NEW FUNCTION But VM63921 says IOCP 1.4.0 but module still prints out 1.2.0 Any thoughts? Thanks! Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 Office: 850.219.5184 Fax: 888.221.9862 http://www.mainline.com This e-mail and files transmitted with it are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom this e- mail is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereb y notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you are not one of the named recipient(s) or otherwise have reason to believe that you received this message in error, please immediately notify sender by e-mail, and destro y the original message. Thank You. =
Re: VM Hipersockets
Sorry, I only use Hiper sockets from MainFrameLInux to z/OS so no coding in VM. BUT, in case ya haven't seen it before, try this Redbook... http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg246816.pdf At 01:38 PM 8/10/2006, you wrote: Anyone have a sample DTCPARMS file they would share with me for a configuration running both hipersockets and an OSA connection? I can get VM to ping itself, but can't get to the z/OS system. When I query my devices, none show attached to TCPIP. I think this is my problem. Thanks, Chuck Kreiter Lead Systems Programmer State Auto Insurance * This message was scanned by the corporate mail server for viruses and objectionable content. Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Administrative Information Services - Infrastructure/Sysarc Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IOCP Module
Hello Mark, Yes you should be able to IOCP filename ( ICP or XXX and then other parameters From the IOCP manual ICP specifies that the ICP version of IOCP is to process the command options and input file to generate an IOCDS. ICP refers to the first three characters of the ICPPCNTL IOCP module and to the z/OS program name ICPIOCP. See Table F-3 on page F-5 to determine which CPCs require this version of IOCP. The ICP program option is the default for the IOCP command on 2084, 2086, 2094, and 2096 CPC's. xxx Three-character program option other than ICP. It is associated with CPCs that do not require the ICP version of IOCP. For example, the IYP program option runs the version of IOCP that is required on 2064 and 2066 CPCs. The IYP program option is the default for the IOCP command on 2064 and 2066 CPCs. The IZP program option runs the version of IOCP that is required on 9021, 9121, 9672, 2003, 3000, and 7060 CPCs that support the ESCON architecture and multiple image facility (MIF). The IZP program option is the default for the IOCP command on 9672, 2003, 3000, and 7060 CPCs. The IXP program option runs the version of IOCP that is required on ES/3090(tm), 9021, 9121, and 9221 CPCs that support the ESCON Architecture, but not the multiple image facility (MIF). The IXP program option is the default for the IOCP command on 9021, 9121, and 9221 CPCs. I have IYPPCNTL MODULE S2 IXPPCNTL MODULE S2 IZPPCNTL MODULE S2 ICPPCNTL MODULE S2 IOPPCNTL MODULE S2 Ed Martin Aultman Health Foundation 330-588-4723 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ext. 40441 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Pace, Mainline Information System Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 1:11 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: IOCP Module Should I be able to run the IOCP module against an IOCP deck created for a different processor than I am currently running on? I'm currently running on a 2006 and I am migrating to a 2094. I want to make the changes to copy of my IOCP deck and assemble to verify it's correct before I move it to the new processor. However when I replace SYSTEM=(2066,1) with SYSTEM=(2094,1) I get STATEMENTS PROCESSED BY IYP IOCP VERSION 1 RELEASE 2.0, LPAR=YES IDMSG1='IOC5070',SYSTEM=(2094,1) IYP150I INVALID SYSTEM PARAMETER I found APAR VM63921 and applied that to my z/VM 5.2 system. In my IOCP module I see H63921DS PUT UM31742 IOCP NEW FUNCTION But VM63921 says IOCP 1.4.0 but module still prints out 1.2.0 Any thoughts? Thanks! Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 Office: 850.219.5184 Fax: 888.221.9862 http://www.mainline.com This e-mail and files transmitted with it are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom this e- mail is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you are not one of the named recipient(s) or otherwise have reason to believe that you received this message in error, please immediately notify sender by e-mail, and destroy the original message. Thank You.
Re: External Page Usage
We ran into something like this when we went from 4.4 to 5.1. We actually ran out of page space. IBM pointed us to a page in a manual that said we should have enough page spa ce for the sum of the size all our virtual machines. We Bit the bullet and got more page packs. I don't remember details, but there were algorithm changes in 5.1. Once we added the page packs, I don't remember any actual problems with it. At the time, we had 16 3390-3 volumes dedicated to paging. The calculation showed that we should have 64, but we decided to try 32. I believe we had 32G of main storage and 4G of expanded storage at the time. IBM also said that their change to the paging algorithm had been too aggressive, and IIRC, they issued a PTF. We backed off to 4.4 until the PTF was ready, so I don't think we ever ran with the original 5.1 algorithm and 32 page volumes. We still have the 32 page volumes today, on z/VM 5.2.0 with 43G main/4G expanded. With our normal workload, the page space is 20% full.
Re: PDSE Support in CMS
Christine--I'm not an MVS type, so I don't really know much about MVS's PDS or PDSE support. I have heard, tho, that the PACKLIB support in FCOPY from the VM download page can be, in some ways, thought to be similiar (is that enough of a disclaimer?) to an MVS PDS. I've used FCOPY and the more recently added PACKLIB feature ever since it became available in IBM internally and now from the download page. You can stuff anything you want into a PACKLIB, including duplicate fileid's. You get anywhere from a 5-10 : 1 compression ratio, at least for normal, unpacked files. You cannot put programs into a PACKLIB and execute from there. You would have to extract a module or exec to have something to execute. To answer your original question, no there has been nothing added to VM in this regard since you looked at the VM/ESA 1.2 level. Jim At 01:29 PM 8/10/2006, you wrote: --0__=08BBFB55DFCC43078f9e8a93df938690918c08BBFB55DFCC4307 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Is there support for PDSE in CMS these days...? I found in the archives back from 1995 that there was no support in CMS for PDSE's (the new PDS format for MVS datasets). That was on VM 1.2 I believe. I can't find that anything has changed since then. Has it? Thanks! Christine Brogan - TPF/VM Systems Support Information Technology Services Americas Phone: 623-505-5366, Cell: 623-512-5883, IBM tieline 273-4647 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --0__=08BBFB55DFCC43078f9e8a93df938690918c08BBFB55DFCC4307 Content-type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Is there support for PDSE in CMS these days...? I found in the archives back from 1995 that there was no support in CMS for PDSE's (the new PDS format for MVS datasets). That was on VM 1.2 I believe. I can't find that anything has changed since then. Has it? Thanks! Christine Brogan - TPF/VM Systems Support Information Technology Services Americas Phone: 623-505-5366, Cell: 623-512-5883, IBM tieline 273-4647 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --0__=08BBFB55DFCC43078f9e8a93df938690918c08BBFB55DFCC4307-- Jim Bohnsack Cornell Univ. (607) 255-1760
Re: VM Hipersockets
:nick.TCPIP:type.server :class.stack :attach.0600-0602,0700-0702 0600-0602 are OSA devices 0700-0702 are Hipersocket devices. Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 Office: 850.219.5184 Fax: 888.221.9862 http://www.mainline.com This e-mail and files transmitted with it are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom this e-mail is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you are not one of the named recipient(s) or otherwise have reason to believe that you received this message in error, please immediately notify sender by e-mail, and destroy the original message. Thank You.
Re: VM Hipersockets
Thanks. I was trying to use two lines instead of one. That worked wonderfully. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Pace, Mainline Information System Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 1:43 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM Hipersockets :nick.TCPIP:type.server :class.stack :attach.0600-0602,0700-0702 0600-0602 are OSA devices 0700-0702 are Hipersocket devices. Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems * This message was scanned by the corporate mail server for viruses and objectionable content.
Re: Who has the tape drive ASSIGNed?
Don Angle here pointed out that the VARY OFF GLOBAL won't work if the system that holds the ASSIGN is down. We think the ASSIGN bit gets reset when the system is IPLed, but not before. Is this correct? Thu, 10 Aug 2006 11:23:06 -0400, Imler, Steven J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim, Sorry for the misunderstanding ... You are correct. The only system that can UNASSIGN the drive is the system that ASSIGNED it to itself (the purpose of the ASSIGN in the nutshell). The on one system reference I mentioned in my response to Alan was relative to the fact that his site runs CA MIM. With MIM you can issue a VARY OFF on any one system with the GLOBAL option. This tells MIM on *every* system to VARY the drive OFFLINE. Correspondingly, the VARY ONLINE can be issued with the GLOBAL option too. Because MIM does the VARY OFF/ON on *all* systems for you ... the ASSIGN is reset. As I pointed out, when using this method you wont necessarily know which system left the ASSIGN set. JR (Steven) Imler CA Senior Software Engineer Tel: +1 703 708 3479 Fax: +1 703 708 3267 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Bohnsack Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 11:09 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Who has the tape drive ASSIGNed? I tried both the VARY OFF/ON and RESET ASSIGN ON RDEV but neither seem to do anything if issued from a system other than where the ATTACH with ASSIGN command was issued. What did work was issuing the RESET ASSIGN command on the system with the ID owning the ASSIGN bit. Doing that I was able to ATTACH the drive to an id on the other system. Right now it's ATTACHed to an id on both systems. I understood from the following that you could reset the ASSIGN bit from any system. By the way, I am on z/VM 4.4 and was experimenting with a 3480. Jim At 07:10 PM 8/8/2006, you wrote: snip The other incantation that will reset the ASSIGN (other than CP RESET ASSIGN ON RDEV) is the CP VARY OFF/VARY ON sequence. Because you indicated you run MIM, you have to ability to issue a MIM command from one system to VARY OFF the drive on *all* systems, then VARY ON again. That's why the suggestion was offered to use that approach to minimize the effort to resolve the problem. Of course, what this doesn't do is identify the offending node with the bad application. If that's important to you, then I think you're stuck with the hunt-and-peck method of resolution. JR JR (Steven) Imler CA Senior Software Engineer Tel: +1 703 708 3479 Fax: +1 703 708 3267 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Ackerman Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 06:29 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Who has the tape drive ASSIGNed? I am informed that this particular case was NOT caused by CA-BAB. (We hav=3D e=20 had other cases.) We don't know what was the cause. z/OS isn't relevent here, though we have had similar error messages=2 0 involving sharing with z/OS at other times.=20 We have 3 VM systems, and 10 guests, involved. We issued: QUERY 366 (or QUERY TAPE FREE) on all systems that have access to 366. = =3D =20 Every system responded with TAPE 0366 FREE=20 ATTACH 366 * on some systems produced=20 Tape 0366 not attached; tape assigned elsewhere. Eventually we found a guest that allowed us to attach the tape, so we=20 assune that system had it assigned. We haven't the foggiest why -- that =3D system wasn't running anything special. I gather that CP (or VMTAPE) sends a CCW to the controller to get=20 the assigned elsewhere information. Is there any CCW to find out where =3D it IS assigned? Jim Bohnsack Cornell Univ. (607) 255-1760 = ===
Re: Who has the tape drive ASSIGNed?
Could be even more brutal and get 3420 drives. Then you didn't have to bother trying to figure out who owned the ASSIGNment bit. Everyone did :-) Jim At 03:08 PM 8/10/2006, you wrote: Then there is the brute force method of IMLing the control unit. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Ackerman Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 3:06 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Who has the tape drive ASSIGNed? Don Angle here pointed out that the VARY OFF GLOBAL won't work if the=20 system that holds the ASSIGN is down. We think the ASSIGN bit gets reset when the system is IPLed, but not before.=20 Is this correct? Thu, 10 Aug 2006 11:23:06 -0400, Imler, Steven J [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20 wrote: Jim, Sorry for the misunderstanding ... You are correct. The only system that can UNASSIGN the drive is the=20 system that ASSIGNED it to itself (the purpose of the ASSIGN in the=20 nutshell). The on one system reference I mentioned in my response to Alan was=20 relative to the fact that his site runs CA MIM. With MIM you can issue a VARY OFF on any one system with the GLOBAL option. This tells MIM on *every* system to VARY the drive OFFLINE. Correspondingly, the VARY=20 ONLINE can be issued with the GLOBAL option too. Because MIM does the=20 VARY OFF/ON on *all* systems for you ... the ASSIGN is reset. As I pointed out, when using this method you wont necessarily know=20 which system left the ASSIGN set. JR (Steven) Imler CA Senior Software Engineer Tel: +1 703 708 3479 Fax: +1 703 708 3267 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Bohnsack Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 11:09 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Who has the tape drive ASSIGNed? I tried both the VARY OFF/ON and RESET ASSIGN ON RDEV but neither seem=20 to do anything if issued from a system other than where the ATTACH with ASSIGN=20 command was issued. What did work was issuing the RESET ASSIGN command on=20 the system with the ID owning the ASSIGN bit. Doing that I was able to ATTACH the drive to an id on the other system. Right now it's ATTACHed to=20 an id on both systems. I understood from the following that you could reset the ASSIGN bit=20 from any system. By the way, I am on z/VM 4.4 and was experimenting with a=20 3480. Jim At 07:10 PM 8/8/2006, you wrote: snip The other incantation that will reset the ASSIGN (other than CP=20 RESET ASSIGN ON RDEV) is the CP VARY OFF/VARY ON sequence. Because=20 you indicated you run MIM, you have to ability to issue a MIM command=20 from one system to VARY OFF the drive on *all* systems, then VARY ON=20 again. That's why the suggestion was offered to use that approach to=20 minimize the effort to resolve the problem. Of course, what this doesn't do is identify the offending node with=20 the bad application. If that's important to you, then I think=20 you're stuck with the hunt-and-peck method of resolution. JR JR (Steven) Imler CA Senior Software Engineer Tel: +1 703 708 3479 Fax: +1 703 708 3267 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Ackerman Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 06:29 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Who has the tape drive ASSIGNed? I am informed that this particular case was NOT caused by CA-BAB. (We=20 hav=3D3D e=3D20 had other cases.) We don't know what was the cause. z/OS isn't relevent here, though we have had similar error = messages=3D20 involving sharing with z/OS at other times.=3D20 We have 3 VM systems, and 10 guests, involved. We issued: QUERY 366 (or QUERY TAPE FREE) on all systems that have access to 366. =3D =3D3D =3D20 Every system responded with TAPE 0366 FREE=3D20 ATTACH 366 * on some systems produced=3D20 Tape 0366 not attached; tape assigned elsewhere. Eventually we found a guest that allowed us to attach the tape, so we=3D20 assune that system had it assigned. We haven't the foggiest why --=20 that =3D3D system wasn't running anything special. I gather that CP (or VMTAPE) sends a CCW to the controller to get=3D20 = the assigned elsewhere information. Is there any CCW to find out where =3D3D it IS assigned? Jim Bohnsack Cornell Univ. (607) 255-1760=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, please notify the = sender, delete it and do not read, act upon, print, disclose, copy, = retain or redistribute it. Click here for important additional terms = relating to this e-mail. http://www.ml.com/email_terms/ Jim Bohnsack
Re: Who has the tape drive ASSIGNed?
But the cartridges wouldn't fit. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Bohnsack Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 12:19 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Who has the tape drive ASSIGNed? Could be even more brutal and get 3420 drives. Then you didn't have to bother trying to figure out who owned the ASSIGNment bit. Everyone did :-) Jim At 03:08 PM 8/10/2006, you wrote: Then there is the brute force method of IMLing the control unit. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Ackerman Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 3:06 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Who has the tape drive ASSIGNed? Don Angle here pointed out that the VARY OFF GLOBAL won't work if the=20 system that holds the ASSIGN is down. We think the ASSIGN bit gets reset when the system is IPLed, but not before.=20 Is this correct? Thu, 10 Aug 2006 11:23:06 -0400, Imler, Steven J [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20 wrote: Jim, Sorry for the misunderstanding ... You are correct. The only system that can UNASSIGN the drive is the=20 system that ASSIGNED it to itself (the purpose of the ASSIGN in the=20 nutshell). The on one system reference I mentioned in my response to Alan was=20 relative to the fact that his site runs CA MIM. With MIM you can issue a VARY OFF on any one system with the GLOBAL option. This tells MIM on *every* system to VARY the drive OFFLINE. Correspondingly, the VARY=20 ONLINE can be issued with the GLOBAL option too. Because MIM does the=20 VARY OFF/ON on *all* systems for you ... the ASSIGN is reset. As I pointed out, when using this method you wont necessarily know=20 which system left the ASSIGN set. JR (Steven) Imler CA Senior Software Engineer Tel: +1 703 708 3479 Fax: +1 703 708 3267 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Bohnsack Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 11:09 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Who has the tape drive ASSIGNed? I tried both the VARY OFF/ON and RESET ASSIGN ON RDEV but neither seem=20 to do anything if issued from a system other than where the ATTACH with ASSIGN=20 command was issued. What did work was issuing the RESET ASSIGN command on=20 the system with the ID owning the ASSIGN bit. Doing that I was able to ATTACH the drive to an id on the other system. Right now it's ATTACHed to=20 an id on both systems. I understood from the following that you could reset the ASSIGN bit=20 from any system. By the way, I am on z/VM 4.4 and was experimenting with a=20 3480. Jim At 07:10 PM 8/8/2006, you wrote: snip The other incantation that will reset the ASSIGN (other than CP=20 RESET ASSIGN ON RDEV) is the CP VARY OFF/VARY ON sequence. Because=20 you indicated you run MIM, you have to ability to issue a MIM command=20 from one system to VARY OFF the drive on *all* systems, then VARY ON=20 again. That's why the suggestion was offered to use that approach to=20 minimize the effort to resolve the problem. Of course, what this doesn't do is identify the offending node with=20 the bad application. If that's important to you, then I think=20 you're stuck with the hunt-and-peck method of resolution. JR JR (Steven) Imler CA Senior Software Engineer Tel: +1 703 708 3479 Fax: +1 703 708 3267 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Ackerman Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 06:29 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Who has the tape drive ASSIGNed? I am informed that this particular case was NOT caused by CA-BAB. (We=20 hav=3D3D e=3D20 had other cases.) We don't know what was the cause. z/OS isn't relevent here, though we have had similar error = messages=3D20 involving sharing with z/OS at other times.=3D20 We have 3 VM systems, and 10 guests, involved. We issued: QUERY 366 (or QUERY TAPE FREE) on all systems that have access to 366. =3D =3D3D =3D20 Every system responded with TAPE 0366 FREE=3D20 ATTACH 366 * on some systems produced=3D20 Tape 0366 not attached; tape assigned elsewhere. Eventually we found a guest that allowed us to attach the tape, so we=3D20 assune that system had it assigned. We haven't the foggiest why --=20 that =3D3D system wasn't running anything special. I gather that CP (or VMTAPE) sends a CCW to the controller to get=3D20 = the assigned elsewhere information. Is there any CCW to find out where =3D3D it IS assigned? Jim Bohnsack Cornell Univ. (607) 255-1760=20
DYNVM, RMSMASTR, and VGLIBSRV
To list(s); We are in the process of migrating a VM/VSE system that currently uses the 3494 VTS. The user is currently in the process of phasing out the VTS. However, going forward, we want to utilize the 3494 ATL without using the VTS. Currently I have these three machines down. At some point, once the additional drives are added to the ATL for this client, I will need to go into these machines and make the appropriate modifications so I can bring these machines online. I need some assistance in identifying what I need to modify. Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thks, Bill J. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: DYNVM, RMSMASTR, and VGLIBSRV
In theory, you should only need to update the list of real device addresses and the Library Name(s) (and serial number) if any of those items change from what they were when running with the 3494 VTS, in each product's configuration files. JR (Steven) Imler CA Senior Software Engineer Tel: +1 703 708 3479 Fax: +1 703 708 3267 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of william JANULIN Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 04:04 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: DYNVM, RMSMASTR, and VGLIBSRV To list(s); We are in the process of migrating a VM/VSE system that currently uses the 3494 VTS. The user is currently in the process of phasing out the VTS. However, going forward, we want to utilize the 3494 ATL without using the VTS. Currently I have these three machines down. At some point, once the additional drives are added to the ATL for this client, I will need to go into these machines and make the appropriate modifications so I can bring these machines online. I need some assistance in identifying what I need to modify. Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thks, Bill J. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PDSE Support in CMS
Isn't the PDS(E) file store somewhat like a CMS minidisk file structure, in that there are two directories at the beginning of the space, and files can be added, deleted and modified *without* the need for a separate compression step every now and then? DJ Jim Bohnsack wrote: Christine--I'm not an MVS type, so I don't really know much about MVS's PDS or PDSE support. I have heard, tho, that the PACKLIB support in FCOPY from the VM download page can be, in some ways, thought to be similiar (is that enough of a disclaimer?) to an MVS PDS. I've used FCOPY and the more recently added PACKLIB feature ever since it became available in IBM internally and now from the download page. You can stuff anything you want into a PACKLIB, including duplicate fileid's. You get anywhere from a 5-10 : 1 compression ratio, at least for normal, unpacked files. You cannot put programs into a PACKLIB and execute from there. You would have to extract a module or exec to have something to execute. To answer your original question, no there has been nothing added to VM in this regard since you looked at the VM/ESA 1.2 level. Jim At 01:29 PM 8/10/2006, you wrote: --0__=08BBFB55DFCC43078f9e8a93df938690918c08BBFB55DFCC4307 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Is there support for PDSE in CMS these days...? I found in the archives back from 1995 that there was no support in CMS for PDSE's (the new PDS format for MVS datasets). That was on VM 1.2 I believe. I can't find that anything has changed since then. Has it? Thanks! Christine Brogan - TPF/VM Systems Support Information Technology Services Americas Phone: 623-505-5366, Cell: 623-512-5883, IBM tieline 273-4647 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --0__=08BBFB55DFCC43078f9e8a93df938690918c08BBFB55DFCC4307 Content-type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Is there support for PDSE in CMS these days...? I found in the archives back from 1995 that there was no support in CMS for PDSE's (the new PDS format for MVS datasets). That was on VM 1.2 I believe. I can't find that anything has changed since then. Has it? Thanks! Christine Brogan - TPF/VM Systems Support Information Technology Services Americas Phone: 623-505-5366, Cell: 623-512-5883, IBM tieline 273-4647 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --0__=08BBFB55DFCC43078f9e8a93df938690918c08BBFB55DFCC4307-- Jim Bohnsack Cornell Univ. (607) 255-1760
Re: OpenExtensions Application Setup
Thanks for pointing that out, Julie. I really dislike the idea of using names for things like error messages if the software still returns a numeric code when it fails. I think I see what the problem here ismake sure that you have the LE run time library (SCEERUN) available at execution time (GL LOADLIB SCEERUN) and that the POSIX(ON) run time option is set, like so: APPNAME POSIX(ON)/ DJ Julie Erickson wrote: Thanks for the information. I'll try updating my directory entry and see if that's sufficient to give my access to OpenExtensions. Here's some information about errno 167. I looked up 167 in errno.h. Here's the entry: #define EMVSNORTL 167 /* Access to the USS version of the C RTL is denied*/ When I searched on EMVSNORTL in the online VM doc, I found the following in the LE Debug Messages doc: EDC5167I Access to the OpenEdition MVS or OpenEdition VM version of the C RTL is denied. Explanation: An attempt was made to issue an Open C library function that has a dependency on OpenEdition MVS or OpenEdition VM and the subsystem was not available or at the incorrect release level. This message is equivalent to the OpenEdition errno, EMVSNORTL. Programmer Response: You need to either install the correct level of the subsystem or modify your program to not issue the function or conditionally issue the function. If you received this message and you are not running under OpenEdition, make sure that POSIX(ON) is set. System Action: The request fails. The application continues to run.
Re: Signal support
SHUTTRAP could be easily modified to run as a CMS MT root child process. The new code would run as a separate process within CMS and not interfere with concurrent processes. I use the root child trick to run CMS commmands as background tasks. There are some restrictions for background tasks, but SHUTTRAP could be coded to avoid them. Neat. That would probably handle the CMS-based WWW servers, or other CMS MT widgets nicely. No modification to CMS needed. GCS would be another story, however. Since GCS is derived from MVT, does anyone know what the MVS world does with the shutdown signal? I wonder if any of that code could be borrowed. -- db
