Re: Question re: Hercules

2006-10-18 Thread Jeff Gribbin, EDS
 NO you can not run VM - any version - under  
 Hercules.

Now, this is one of those, But why would you want to do this? questions
, 
but howabout running z/VM in a Hercules that was itself running under 
Linux in a virtual machine that was being delivered using the same z/VM a
s 
was running, down there - and is, of course, properly and fully license
d.

Not entirely academic - some of the devices that Hercules can emulate are
 
pretty hard to find nowadays and if one happened to have an application 

that depended on one of these devices ...

(I would, of course, not expect such a configuration to be SUPPORTED 
but ... is it legal?)

Regards
Jeff


Re: Question re: Hercules

2006-10-18 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 10/18/2006 at 08:19 EST, Jeff Gribbin, EDS 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 but howabout running z/VM in a Hercules that was itself running under
 Linux in a virtual machine that was being delivered using the same z/VM 
as
 was running, down there - and is, of course, properly and fully 
licensed.

It's been done.

 Not entirely academic - some of the devices that Hercules can emulate 
are
 pretty hard to find nowadays and if one happened to have an application
 that depended on one of these devices ...

Such as?

 (I would, of course, not expect such a configuration to be SUPPORTED
 but ... is it legal?)

Is the copy of z/VM you're running in the guest licensed to run on that 
processor?  If so, do whatever you want.  And you're right - it wouldn't 
be supported since it isn't running on certified architecture.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: Question re: Hercules

2006-10-18 Thread David Boyes
  but howabout running z/VM in a Hercules that was itself running
under
  Linux in a virtual machine that was being delivered using the same
z/VM
 as
  was running, down there - and is, of course, properly and fully
 licensed.
 
 It's been done.

Not wisely, but too well... 8-)

  Not entirely academic - some of the devices that Hercules can
emulate
 are
  pretty hard to find nowadays and if one happened to have an
application
  that depended on one of these devices ...
 
 Such as?

3330 or 3350s have been prime examples so far. Recovering a really
ancient VM/SP3 system for legal purposes (real example). 


BM shares rally as earnings rise 47%

2006-10-18 Thread Dave Jones

http://custom.marketwatch.com/custom/myway-com/news-story.asp?guid={FBC4F784-8776-48A5-A209-A7250CBF3F9F}

Hardware revenue grew 9%, or 8% when adjusted for currency, to $5.6 
billion compared with $5.1 billion a year ago.


Sales of the System Z series was the most impressive, up 25% 
year-over-year, or 22% at constant currency. System P grew 10%, or 8% 
when adjusted for currency. Microelectronics was up 29% and storage grew 
12%, or 11% at constant currency.



It would be interesting to see how much of the increased zSeries sales 
went to new sites that want to run Linux under z/VM.



DJ


Re: Sharing unassigned tape

2006-10-18 Thread Kim Goldenberg

Shimon Lebowitz wrote:

On 17 Oct 2006 at 14:52, Romanowski, John (OFT) wrote:

  
Shimon, 
Is the 5.2 system a guest of 4.4 (not sure from your post)?

If so, I would DFSMSRM MOUNT the tape to the guest userid and
on 5.2 system just ATTACH the tape drive to MAINT at 181 and use
the
virtual cartridge.  Skip the NOASSIGN stuff.



I guess I really was not clear, my apologies.

The 4.4 and 5.2 are 2 different LPARs. 5.2 can only run
in 64bit mode, and our 4.4 is 31bit, so 2nd level is out.

  
Do you really mean different LPARs on different machines, or on the same 
machine, because if it's the latter, I'd better not tell my test 5.2 
system, it can't run on my 4.4 production system on our z9. grin



Kim Goldenberg
State of NJ - OIT


FW: Google launches search engine for finding source code

2006-10-18 Thread Aurora Dellanno
Tee hee!

As seen on IBM-MAIN.

ciao!
 
Aurora Emanuela Dell'Anno
Compuware Ltd.
Systems Engineer, Mainframe pre-Sales
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-Original Message-
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Subject: Google launches search engine for finding source code

Google launches search engine for finding source code

Specialized search intended to help programmers find code that's publicly
 
available 

October 05, 2006 (IDG News Service) -- Google Inc. today debuted a 
specialized search engine designed to find software source code publicly 

available on the Web.

The code search engine is intended to help professional programmers, 
hobbyist developers and code enthusiasts with the difficult task of findi
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source code online, a Google official said.

Currently, the general Web search engine Google.com can find links to fil
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with source code, but it doesn't index the lines of code in those files, 

said Tom Stocky, a Google product manager. In those cases, developers nee
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to download the files to their computers and inspect the code.
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http://tinyurl.com/ky4y5 

http://www.google.com/codesearch 

I searched for BALR R12,0 and got 7 hits.

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Re: Sharing unassigned tape

2006-10-18 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
On 18 Oct 2006 at 10:01, Kim Goldenberg wrote:

 
  The 4.4 and 5.2 are 2 different LPARs. 5.2 can only run
  in 64bit mode, and our 4.4 is 31bit, so 2nd level is out.
 

 Do you really mean different LPARs on different machines, or on the same
 machine, because if it's the latter, I'd better not tell my test 5.2 
 system, it can't run on my 4.4 production system on our z9. grin
 

In my case I definitely meant the same machine, but I did
not say you *can't* run 5.2 as a guest in 4.4, just that
you cannot run as a guest of a *31-bit* 4.4, which ours is.

A 31-bit VM cannot create a 64-bit guest, and 5.2 will
only run in a 64-bit environment.

Please note that I am not saying this from personal
experience, I am spouting the official line. :-) (But I do 
believe it).

Shimon

P.S. Today was a crazy day (tm?) - so I was unable
to do anything with testing the theories regarding sharing 
a VTS tape.
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