Re: Renaming spool and page

2007-02-13 Thread Dave Reinken
 From: Little, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, February 12, 2007 5:16 pm
 
 We're working on disaster recovery here...and just about created one.
 Created a recovery of our primary z/VM lpar and IPLed it in another,
 but with a potentially grand mistake.  The production spool and page
 volumes are at a lower address than the DR spool and page volumes.  And
 it did IPL with those.  Q ALLOC SPOOL and PAGE proved that.  By some
 chance it didn't crash production.
 
 So now we IPL second level before we IPL in an LPAR.
 
 After IPLing I tried changing the volume names of spool and page and
 reflecting that in SYSTEM CONFIG, but it results in an unbootable
 system.
 
 What else do I need to do?

I'm not sure what is going on with that, but OFFLINE_AT_IPL your second
level's system packs in your first levels SYSTEM CONFIG, and
OFFLINE_AT_IPL your first level's system packs in your second level's
SYSTEM CONFIG.


Re: EREP Problem

2007-02-13 Thread David Boyes
 It all came to light on an IPL. To begin there were no messages on the

 hardware console and when we started to IPL we got an error on a CHPID

 that belonged to our disk array, it also showed up on the HMC when 
 displaying the CHPID's. it is now between two vendors that both say it

 doesn't belong to them. I will let them fight it out tomorrow.

When you do, assuming your VSE systems are VM guests, I'd run EREP on
VM. It's the closest layer to the hardware. 


Re: zSeries Linux - How Many Users?

2007-02-13 Thread Paul Raulerson
I have run into a lot of folks, but we bought the first zSeries machine that I 
know configured to run only z/VM and Linux. May have something to do with 
longevity... :)
I'd recommend that you look twice at loading things like print servers and etc. 
on a zSeries unless you are basically swimming in free MIPS. A lot of Linux 
stuff is written with very little, if any, consideration for efficiency. Take 
Tivoli Storage Manager for instance... it can easily bring a z800 IFL to it's 
knees in seconds, and even with a dedicated channel (configured as Fibre 
Channel Protocol of course) it can not seem to drive a 1120 tape anywhere near 
normal speed. Most of that is because it swamps the CPU with database updates. 
(*sigh*)
There *are* some things that Intel / AMD processors can do better - for 
example, I suggest you talk to RSA (Rochester Software Associates) about 
printing. We have managed to come up with a total replacement for InfoPrint 
that works from zLinux, i5OS, and Winders without much trouble, and hosting the 
print server on an Intel Blade means we have lots of speed and redundancy.
On the other hand, there is not doubt at all that a well designed *efficient* 
application under zLinux can and does directly complete with just about any 
other platform in the world, including z/OS. Admittedly, we write most of 
appliations in HLASM under zLinux, so we are less likely to include cruft in 
a program, but we still make intensive use of the stdlib and all sorts of C 
calls where appropriate. For example, we use the stdlib for I/O. We did layer a 
homebuilt ISAM/VSAM like filesystem over that, but that was driven by (1) No 
VSAM under zLinux and (2) even DB/2 is slower than what we wanted. We looked at 
using some of the COBOL compilers, which were *great*, but we did not like 
paying a per user cost.
On the other hand, tasks that are pretty efficient CPU wise and hogs I/O wise 
run fantastic on the zSeries machine - stuff like basic print management (no 
overlays, no data merges, that kind of stuff), web servering, FTP servers, just 
about any kind of network server including NFS, user interactive tasks, etc.
It's a slightly different world, and you can take advantage of 'Open Systems' 
in ways that are both innovative and sometimes amazing.

-Paul

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Does anyone happen to know a ballpark figure of how many companies are 
using zSeries Linux??
 
My reason for asking is I am working on trying to convince the management 
here that we could
save tons of money by consolidating a lot of the easier workloads (ie- 
print servers) to zSeries
Linux.  One of the things I get back is no one is doing it, although I 
have to think there is a lot 
of it being used, especially with todays economy as it is.
 
I think IBM has not done a very good job of promoting zSeries Linux, 
although from a marketing
standpoint they undoubtedly make more money with a room full of p-boxes 
than one or two z-boxes
running the same workload.
 
Thanks, 
Paul Adrian.



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What is the command to view the OPERSYMP records

2007-02-13 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)


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Re: zSeries Linux - How Many Users?

2007-02-13 Thread David Boyes
 I'd recommend that you look twice at loading things like print servers and

 etc. on a zSeries unless you are basically swimming in free MIPS. A lot of

 Linux stuff is written with very little, if any, consideration for 
 efficiency. 

I'd modify that statement to be commercial software deployed on Linux.
Most of the stuff that originated on Linux or in the spirit of open source
has usually been fairly efficient, or at least you have the opportunity to
do something about it if it is a pig. 

 Take Tivoli Storage Manager for instance...

Please do take it -- as the play says: God bless and keep the Tsar... far
away from us!  That's a good example of an inefficient and poorly
application on ANY platform. Funny thing, the CMS version wasn't nearly such
a pig...but I digress. 

 I suggest you talk to RSA (Rochester Software Associates) about printing. 
 We have managed to come up with a total replacement for InfoPrint that 
 works from zLinux, i5OS, and Winders without much trouble,  and hosting 
 the print server on an Intel Blade means we have lots of speed and 
 redundancy. 

Interesting -- pointer? What does it do that CUPS doesn't do natively? 


Re: zSeries Linux - How Many Users?

2007-02-13 Thread Paul Raulerson
http://www.rocsoft.com

MIS Print and QDirect together make a pretty awesome combination. They will 
also do custom work to integrate to other products. They do keep at it until it 
works as promised. 

-Paul

---BeginMessage---
 I'd recommend that you look twice at loading things like print servers and

 etc. on a zSeries unless you are basically swimming in free MIPS. A lot of

 Linux stuff is written with very little, if any, consideration for 
 efficiency. 

I'd modify that statement to be commercial software deployed on Linux.
Most of the stuff that originated on Linux or in the spirit of open source
has usually been fairly efficient, or at least you have the opportunity to
do something about it if it is a pig. 

 Take Tivoli Storage Manager for instance...

Please do take it -- as the play says: God bless and keep the Tsar... far
away from us!  That's a good example of an inefficient and poorly
application on ANY platform. Funny thing, the CMS version wasn't nearly such
a pig...but I digress. 

 I suggest you talk to RSA (Rochester Software Associates) about printing. 
 We have managed to come up with a total replacement for InfoPrint that 
 works from zLinux, i5OS, and Winders without much trouble,  and hosting 
 the print server on an Intel Blade means we have lots of speed and 
 redundancy. 

Interesting -- pointer? What does it do that CUPS doesn't do natively? 


---End Message---


Re: What is the command to view the OPERSYMP records

2007-02-13 Thread Kris Buelens

VIEWSYMP is the command, lives on MAINT 193

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Re: Renaming spool and page

2007-02-13 Thread Little, Chris
 

 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Kreuter
 Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 5:16 PM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: Renaming spool and page
 
 hmm...it is a minor miracle your production system didn't 
 crash, or corrupt spool files. At IPL time of the errant 
 LPAR, certainly 2 dump files were open, and some console logs 
 of early life virtual machines. So the spool volume was 
 touched.  By copying the WARM cylinders and using the same 
 spool pack, pointers were intact from the moment of 
 snapshot. Sort of.
 
 Sorry to suggest since given most shops production schedules, 
 but I would consider a reIPL of your production LPAR. Just to be sure.

Yeah.  Already suggested it to my manager.  Haven't heard back...

 
 What is your unbootable condition? 

Disabled Wait: -- The code is 0912.  According to System Messages and
Codes It is a volume not mounted.

Did you run the SALIPL 
 utility to burn in the IPL info on your new sysres?

no

 Are you getting a disabled wait state?

see above

 When you relabelled did you re-allocate the page and spool volumes?

no

 David
 

Obviously this is much more complex than I thought.  As it always seems
to be.
Thanks.

 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Little, Chris
 Sent: Mon 2/12/2007 5:16 PM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: [IBMVM] Renaming spool and page
  
 We're working on disaster recovery here...and just about created one.
 Created a recovery of our primary z/VM lpar and IPLed it in 
 another, but with a potentially grand mistake.  The 
 production spool and page volumes are at a lower address than 
 the DR spool and page volumes.  And it did IPL with those.  
 Q ALLOC SPOOL and PAGE proved that.  By some chance it 
 didn't crash production.
 
 So now we IPL second level before we IPL in an LPAR.
 
 After IPLing I tried changing the volume names of spool and 
 page and reflecting that in SYSTEM CONFIG, but it results in 
 an unbootable system.
 
 What else do I need to do?
 


Re: What is the command to view the OPERSYMP records

2007-02-13 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
Thank you.

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Re: Renaming spool and page

2007-02-13 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
On 12 Feb 2007 at 18:15, David Kreuter wrote:

 
 
 Sorry to suggest since given most shops production schedules, but I would
 consider a reIPL of your production LPAR. Just to be sure.
 

If it was me, I would make a FULL spool backup first.
As a matter of fact, I think I would do that right now, 
even if I couldn't IPL. Something is waiting in the 
wings, I fear...

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Re: zSeries Linux - How Many Users?

2007-02-13 Thread Mark Wheeler
snip


  Take Tivoli Storage Manager for instance...

 Please do take it -- as the play says: God bless and keep the Tsar...
far
 away from us!  That's a good example of an inefficient and poorly
 application on ANY platform. Funny thing, the CMS version wasn't nearly
such
 a pig...but I digress.

Interesting... That hasn't been my experience at all. I recently migrated
from ADSM/VM to TSM on zLinux and didn't see a significant difference in
MIPs consumption. I haven't had any problems keeping multiple STK 9940
tapes busy at 30-40 MB/sec each. I back up about 30 GB/night, on average.
Morning housekeeping activities (expiration/migration/dbbackup) averages
30-50 MIPs for an hour or so. DB is 38 GB, 62% full, 38 million objects, 12
TB storage. Backups at night consume an average of less than 20 MIPs, with
exception of one 40-50 MIP spike for an hour or so. I have seen initial
backups of large clients run at 1.5+ TB/day. The only time I've seen high
I/O rates to the DB was when I ran a GENERATE BACKUPSET of a 4 TB node. For
brief periods I would see as many as 2500 IOs/sec and as much as 200 MIPs.

I'm not saying this invalidates the experiences of others. Just adding my
own to the collection. YMMV.

Mark Wheeler, 3M Company


Re: zSeries Linux - How Many Users?

2007-02-13 Thread Mark Pace

The differences in opinion can probably be attributed to different models of
zSeries / System Z and the type and connection of I/O subsystem.

On 2/13/07, Mark Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


snip


  Take Tivoli Storage Manager for instance...

 Please do take it -- as the play says: God bless and keep the Tsar...
far
 away from us!  That's a good example of an inefficient and poorly
 application on ANY platform. Funny thing, the CMS version wasn't nearly
such
 a pig...but I digress.

Interesting... That hasn't been my experience at all. I recently migrated
from ADSM/VM to TSM on zLinux and didn't see a significant difference in
MIPs consumption.

I'm not saying this invalidates the experiences of others. Just adding my
own to the collection. YMMV.

Mark Wheeler, 3M Company





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Re: Renaming spool and page

2007-02-13 Thread Little, Chris
  
  Sorry to suggest since given most shops production schedules, but I 
  would consider a reIPL of your production LPAR. Just to be sure.
  
 
 If it was me, I would make a FULL spool backup first.
 As a matter of fact, I think I would do that right now, even 
 if I couldn't IPL. Something is waiting in the wings, I fear...
 
 Shimon

That instills great hope.

chris


Re: EREP Problem

2007-02-13 Thread Edward M. Martin
Hello Loren,

Every time we have a message on the VSE side from the EMC array,
z/VM puts better messages on the z/VM Operators console.

I have the EREP exec's we use, with an EMAIL exec to email to
the 
correct people.

Ed Martin 
Aultman Health Foundation
330-588-4723
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
ext. 40441

 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
 Behalf Of David Boyes
 Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 9:21 AM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: EREP Problem
 
  It all came to light on an IPL. To begin there were no messages on
the
 
  hardware console and when we started to IPL we got an error on a
CHPID
 
  that belonged to our disk array, it also showed up on the HMC when
  displaying the CHPID's. it is now between two vendors that both say
it
 
  doesn't belong to them. I will let them fight it out tomorrow.
 
 When you do, assuming your VSE systems are VM guests, I'd run EREP on
 VM. It's the closest layer to the hardware.


Re: zSeries Linux - How Many Users?

2007-02-13 Thread David Boyes
 Interesting... That hasn't been my experience at all. I recently
migrated
 from ADSM/VM to TSM on zLinux and didn't see a significant difference
in
 MIPs consumption. 

It also seems to be related to the number (and complexity) of the
clients. There is a floor value of resource consumption with TSM that's
unavoidable; the resource consumption increases sharply as you get more
complex devices or start ramping up the number and complexity of
clients. The difference between the straight backup/archive clients and
the application-specific ones also plays a big role (the Exchange and
Notes clients are particularly piggy both on the server and the client
side; in all fairness, they have to do a lot more than the B/A client). 

The CMS version scaled much more linearly; there was an increase as
things ramped up, but it was much slower, and the difference between the
B/A and app clients was much smaller. Supporting a 12,000 client install
on the VM version was doable. No chance with the Linux version. 

In the two sites we deal with who use TSM on Linux, it runs on average
about 250% of the resource consumption of a comparable size Bacula
installation, and cost them about 300% more than the support for Bacula
(if we include the requirement for new tape libraries, etc, the cost is
even higher). I'm not sure why those two sites do it...

If I ever get enough time to finish the CMS Bacula client... *sigh*.
Someday. 

-- db


Fw: NSS missing

2007-02-13 Thread Mary Elwood Digest
Good Morning All

A VM newbie here and I've done something that I don't know how to fix.  I
built a z/VM 5.2 Test system off of our z/VM 5.2 Devl system by copying the
520RSD  520SPD and 520PGD   to  520RST   520SPT   and 520SPT.   The first
time I IPL'd the 5.2 test system, I chose to do a 'clean noautolog'.The
system IPL's, but I have no Named Saved Segments.  We thought these NSS's
were on the spool volume, so we restored the devl spool volume over to the
test and re'ipld.  We have the same problem.  When we try to logon to
'maint', it is missing the cmspipes and cmsvmlib.  Is there a way I can
rebuild all the NSS without knowing what they are???  Now that I ask the
question - I'm thinking 'no', because I can't logon to CMS.

Any and all help greatly appreciated.

p.s. - it just might be easier to start from scratch.

Thanks for your help and patience,

Mary Elwood


Re: NSS missing

2007-02-13 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
You can IPL 190 if the CMS NSS is missing.

Also, SPXTAPE the NSSes and DCSSes from dev1 and restore to test. 

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Behalf Of Mary Elwood Digest
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:43 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Fw: NSS missing


Good Morning All

A VM newbie here and I've done something that I don't know how to fix.
I built a z/VM 5.2 Test system off of our z/VM 5.2 Devl system by
copying the
520RSD  520SPD and 520PGD   to  520RST   520SPT   and 520SPT.   The
first
time I IPL'd the 5.2 test system, I chose to do a 'clean noautolog'.
The
system IPL's, but I have no Named Saved Segments.  We thought these
NSS's were on the spool volume, so we restored the devl spool volume
over to the test and re'ipld.  We have the same problem.  When we try to
logon to 'maint', it is missing the cmspipes and cmsvmlib.  Is there a
way I can rebuild all the NSS without knowing what they are???  Now that
I ask the question - I'm thinking 'no', because I can't logon to CMS.

Any and all help greatly appreciated.

p.s. - it just might be easier to start from scratch.

Thanks for your help and patience,

Mary Elwood


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RES: NSS missing

2007-02-13 Thread Carlos Bodra
Mary,

CLEAN means clean, it deletes all files from spool and other special files
as NSS and other. You should use CLEAR, that only deletes spool files but
Keep intact NSS files.

For a rapid recovery, since you copy Devl disks, you can use SPXTAPE and
backup only NSS segments from DEVL system and then restore it in you TEST
system. It's easy and fast, than restore all DEVL system again.

I hope this help you.

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De: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome
de Mary Elwood Digest
Enviada em: terça-feira, 13 de fevereiro de 2007 13:43
Para: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Assunto: Fw: NSS missing

Good Morning All

A VM newbie here and I've done something that I don't know how to fix.  I
built a z/VM 5.2 Test system off of our z/VM 5.2 Devl system by copying the
520RSD  520SPD and 520PGD   to  520RST   520SPT   and 520SPT.   The first
time I IPL'd the 5.2 test system, I chose to do a 'clean noautolog'.The
system IPL's, but I have no Named Saved Segments.  We thought these NSS's
were on the spool volume, so we restored the devl spool volume over to the
test and re'ipld.  We have the same problem.  When we try to logon to
'maint', it is missing the cmspipes and cmsvmlib.  Is there a way I can
rebuild all the NSS without knowing what they are???  Now that I ask the
question - I'm thinking 'no', because I can't logon to CMS.

Any and all help greatly appreciated.

p.s. - it just might be easier to start from scratch.

Thanks for your help and patience,

Mary Elwood


Re: Fw: NSS missing

2007-02-13 Thread Ron Schmiedge

Hi Mary,

NSS are special files in your spool. By doing the clean you erased
them. But you can recover them from your floor system. You would use
the SPXTAPE command to backup the NSS files to tape on your floor
system, then attach a tape drive to your test system and restore them.

My weekly NSS backup is done with:

SPXTAPE DUMP 181 NSS ALL

where 181 is the virtual tape address attached to my backup id.

Then once the tape is attached to your test system you can attach the
drive to operator and do an SPXTAPE LOAD 181 NSS ALL (change 181 as
need be)

And you can issue the command IPL 190 on your VM id on the test system
to startup CMS without the CMS NSS being there.

Ron

On 2/13/07, Mary Elwood Digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Good Morning All

A VM newbie here and I've done something that I don't know how to fix.  I
built a z/VM 5.2 Test system off of our z/VM 5.2 Devl system by copying the
520RSD  520SPD and 520PGD   to  520RST   520SPT   and 520SPT.   The first
time I IPL'd the 5.2 test system, I chose to do a 'clean noautolog'.The
system IPL's, but I have no Named Saved Segments.  We thought these NSS's
were on the spool volume, so we restored the devl spool volume over to the
test and re'ipld.  We have the same problem.  When we try to logon to
'maint', it is missing the cmspipes and cmsvmlib.  Is there a way I can
rebuild all the NSS without knowing what they are???  Now that I ask the
question - I'm thinking 'no', because I can't logon to CMS.

Any and all help greatly appreciated.

p.s. - it just might be easier to start from scratch.

Thanks for your help and patience,

Mary Elwood



Re: Fw: NSS missing

2007-02-13 Thread Rich Smrcina
Use SPXTAPE to back up the SDF data from the spool on Devl and restore 
it to Test.  This is documented in the Automated Installation and 
Service manual.  That should help the CMS problem.


If you can then get logged on you will need to change SYSTEM CONFIG to 
tell it the new VOLIDs for your system areas.


Mary Elwood Digest wrote:

Good Morning All

A VM newbie here and I've done something that I don't know how to fix.  I
built a z/VM 5.2 Test system off of our z/VM 5.2 Devl system by copying the
520RSD  520SPD and 520PGD   to  520RST   520SPT   and 520SPT.   The first
time I IPL'd the 5.2 test system, I chose to do a 'clean noautolog'.The
system IPL's, but I have no Named Saved Segments.  We thought these NSS's
were on the spool volume, so we restored the devl spool volume over to the
test and re'ipld.  We have the same problem.  When we try to logon to
'maint', it is missing the cmspipes and cmsvmlib.  Is there a way I can
rebuild all the NSS without knowing what they are???  Now that I ask the
question - I'm thinking 'no', because I can't logon to CMS.

Any and all help greatly appreciated.

p.s. - it just might be easier to start from scratch.

Thanks for your help and patience,

Mary Elwood



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NSS missing

2007-02-13 Thread Eric Schadow
Mary 

here is what I did to recreate the NSS's when I did the same exact thing you did


Rebuild NSS saved segments if they are missing.

  
* logon to maint 
* Q NSS  from maint and see if they are missing. 
* def stor 64m 
* ipl 190 clear parm nosprof instseg no 
* acc (noprof 
* acc 5e5 b 
* acc 51d d 
* VMFBLD PPF segbld esasegs   (ALL 
* CMSBAM problem  ipl 190 again to clear storage 
* ipl 190 clear parm nosprof instseg no   
* acc (noprof  
* vmfbld list segbld esasegs dosmab blddata ( all 
* resave CMS 
* acc 193 m 
* sampnss cms 
* ipl 190 clear parm savesys cms 
This rebuilds the IBM supplied NSS's You may have to rebuild the IMG files and 
any vendor NSS files

eric



At 11:42 AM 2/13/2007, you wrote:
Good Morning All

A VM newbie here and I've done something that I don't know how to fix.  I
built a z/VM 5.2 Test system off of our z/VM 5.2 Devl system by copying the
520RSD  520SPD and 520PGD   to  520RST   520SPT   and 520SPT.   The first
time I IPL'd the 5.2 test system, I chose to do a 'clean noautolog'.The
system IPL's, but I have no Named Saved Segments.  We thought these NSS's
were on the spool volume, so we restored the devl spool volume over to the
test and re'ipld.  We have the same problem.  When we try to logon to
'maint', it is missing the cmspipes and cmsvmlib.  Is there a way I can
rebuild all the NSS without knowing what they are???  Now that I ask the
question - I'm thinking 'no', because I can't logon to CMS.

Any and all help greatly appreciated.

p.s. - it just might be easier to start from scratch.

Thanks for your help and patience,

Mary Elwood

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Mainframe Technical Support
www.davisvision.com 





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Re: Fw: NSS missing

2007-02-13 Thread Rich Smrcina

You'll also need to change the volid's in the directory and put it online.

The process that I typically follow involves cloning a first level 
system to run second level, then changing the volid's one at a time 
(with CPFMTXA LABEL), along with the SYSTEM CONFIG and directory. 
Somewhat tedious and uses a number of IPLs, but it works.


Mary Elwood Digest wrote:

Good Morning All

A VM newbie here and I've done something that I don't know how to fix.  I
built a z/VM 5.2 Test system off of our z/VM 5.2 Devl system by copying the
520RSD  520SPD and 520PGD   to  520RST   520SPT   and 520SPT.   The first
time I IPL'd the 5.2 test system, I chose to do a 'clean noautolog'.The
system IPL's, but I have no Named Saved Segments.  We thought these NSS's
were on the spool volume, so we restored the devl spool volume over to the
test and re'ipld.  We have the same problem.  When we try to logon to
'maint', it is missing the cmspipes and cmsvmlib.  Is there a way I can
rebuild all the NSS without knowing what they are???  Now that I ask the
question - I'm thinking 'no', because I can't logon to CMS.

Any and all help greatly appreciated.

p.s. - it just might be easier to start from scratch.

Thanks for your help and patience,

Mary Elwood



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Re: Renaming spool and page

2007-02-13 Thread Kris Buelens

if I couldn't IPL. Something is waiting in the wings, I fear...

You can try the basic IPL process under VM (somrething I regulary do)

- Logon to a CLASS G user, it needs to be able to LINK to MAINT 123,
 (MAINT 123 is normally a fullpack overlay on your resident)
- SYSTEM RESET
- SET MACHINE ESA
- DEF STOR 32M (or more)
- Q V DASD and DETACH them all, or at least the R/W minidisks)
- LINK MAINT 123 123 RR (be sure to have the RR, we surel
 do not want to be able to write to the resident)
- TERM CONMODE 3270
- Q V CONS   (find the address of your console)
- IPL 123 LOADPARM CONS
== now you should see VM starting up.  it will start failing when it tries
   to write to its resident (what we made impossible)

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IBM Belgium, VM customer support


Re: VZM/5.2 and SSLSERV

2007-02-13 Thread Mark Pace

My recommendation is to get the SSL appliance from Sinenomine.
http://www.sinenomine.net/products/sslproxy

It's a very simple DDR install. Set up the keys and your running.


On 2/13/07, Hughes, Jim - OIT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I need to use SSL support supplied by the SSLSERV service machine. It
was not installed during our ZVM install 18 months ago.  I am not a
Linux person either.



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Mainline Information Systems


Re: VZM/5.2 and SSLSERV

2007-02-13 Thread Jim Bohnsack
Jim--The Linux part doesn't come with z/VM.  We have been using the 
SineNomine linux and have had absolutely no problems with it.  You can 
see it at SineNomine.net.  It is a customized linux that does nothing 
but support SSLSERV on VM.


Jim

Hughes, Jim - OIT wrote:

I need to use SSL support supplied by the SSLSERV service machine. It
was not installed during our ZVM install 18 months ago.  I am not a
Linux person either.

The SSLSERV machine has minidisks at 191, 201, and 203. I've looked at
the manual and I am still confused about how to go about installing the
linux part of this thing.

Would someone please give me some clues about which manual to start
reading so I can this puppy loaded, configured, and operational?

Regards,

=20
Jim Hughes
603-271-5586
There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you're
talking about.
John von Neumann

  



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RES: NSS missing

2007-02-13 Thread John Franciscovich
CLEAN means clean, it deletes all files from spool and other special
files
as NSS and other. You should use CLEAR, that only deletes spool files
but
Keep intact NSS files.

Use COLD to delete spool files but keep your NSS files. There is no
CLEAR IPL.

John Franciscovich
z/VM Development


Re: ZVM and SSLSERV Question

2007-02-13 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 02/13/2007 at 04:22 EST, Hughes, Jim - OIT 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does using this SSL appliance allow the ZVM FTP Client to make SSL
 connections?

In z/VM 5.3, yes.  Earlier, no.  Circle June 29 on your calendar.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: ZVM and SSLSERV Question

2007-02-13 Thread Hughes, Jim - OIT
Thanks Alan. 

Set Calendar Circled On

Will there be any changes in the IBM ZVM SSL offering?

 
Jim Hughes
603-271-5586
There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you're
talking about.
John von Neumann

=-Original Message-
=From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
=Behalf Of Alan Altmark
=Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 4:31 PM
=To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
=Subject: Re: ZVM and SSLSERV Question
=
=On Tuesday, 02/13/2007 at 04:22 EST, Hughes, Jim - OIT
=[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
= Does using this SSL appliance allow the ZVM FTP Client to make SSL
= connections?
=
=In z/VM 5.3, yes.  Earlier, no.  Circle June 29 on your calendar.
=
=Alan Altmark
=z/VM Development
=IBM Endicott


Re: ZVM and SSLSERV Question

2007-02-13 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 02/13/2007 at 04:33 EST, Hughes, Jim - OIT 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Will there be any changes in the IBM ZVM SSL offering?

Yes.  Support for newer levels of SLES9 and RHEL4, as well as some 
administrative improvements.  Some more encryption suites.  Nothing 
earth-shattering.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


VZM/5.2 and SSLSERV

2007-02-13 Thread Hughes, Jim - OIT
I need to use SSL support supplied by the SSLSERV service machine. It
was not installed during our ZVM install 18 months ago.  I am not a
Linux person either.

The SSLSERV machine has minidisks at 191, 201, and 203. I've looked at
the manual and I am still confused about how to go about installing the
linux part of this thing.

Would someone please give me some clues about which manual to start
reading so I can this puppy loaded, configured, and operational?

Regards,

 
Jim Hughes
603-271-5586
There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you're
talking about.
John von Neumann


ZVM and SSLSERV Question

2007-02-13 Thread Hughes, Jim - OIT
Does using this SSL appliance allow the ZVM FTP Client to make SSL
connections?

 
Jim Hughes
603-271-5586
There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you're
talking about.
John von Neumann


Re: ZVM and SSLSERV Question

2007-02-13 Thread Thomas Kern
SSLSERV on z/VM 5.1 can provide IMPLICIT protection for FTP, but it is
unpleasant and I have found ONLY one windows client that will work with it.
SSLSERV can also protect HTTPS and POPS.

/Thomas Kern
/U.S. Department of Energy
/301-903-2211

--- Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tuesday, 02/13/2007 at 04:22 EST, Hughes, Jim - OIT 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Does using this SSL appliance allow the ZVM FTP Client to make SSL
  connections?
 
 In z/VM 5.3, yes.  Earlier, no.  Circle June 29 on your calendar.
 
 Alan Altmark
 z/VM Development
 IBM Endicott
 



 

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