Re: Is 275GB of VDISK stupid?
Hi, Here's a current swap status on SLES10 with 400M. swapon -s FilenameTypeSizeUsed Priority /dev/dasdf1 partition 74988 63932 -1 /dev/dasdg1 partition 149988 23064 -2 /dev/dasdh1 partition 224988 23088 -3 Does this imply that dasdg1 completely filled up before using dasdh1? Ray Mrohs U.S. Department of Justice 202-307-6896 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 5:29 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Is 275GB of VDISK stupid? On Mon, Dec 3, 2007 at 1:05 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED] l.nyenet, Romanowski, John (OFT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob said earlier that after linux starts using a lower priority swap area it doesn't migrate back from swap2 to swap1 when stuff is freed later. To be more explicit, if swap1 fills up, then swap2 starts being used. If pages on swap1 get freed up, the pages that were written to swap2 will never be migrated to swap1, even if if they are paged in by Linux and then paged out again. So do you find after swapoff/on a high priority VDISK that linux starts using it? or does it ignore it and keep filling the dasd swap? Yes, but you could force the same behavior by doing a swapoff/swapon on the lower priority disk. Since there are (presumably the reason why you did this) free pages on the VDISK, they'll be used first. Mark Post
Re: Is 275GB of VDISK stupid?
On Tue, Dec 4, 2007 at 9:15 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mrohs, Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Here's a current swap status on SLES10 with 400M. swapon -s FilenameTypeSizeUsed Priority /dev/dasdf1 partition 74988 63932 -1 /dev/dasdg1 partition 149988 23064 -2 /dev/dasdh1 partition 224988 23088 -3 Does this imply that dasdg1 completely filled up before using dasdh1? I'm unsure about how negative priorities work, but yes, the fact that they are different priorities implies that at some point, the first swap space filled up, then the second swap space, and then some was used of the third. If you're not seeing significant paging *rates* then this isn't necessarily a problem. It could just be that some really huge amount of startup code got paged out over time. If you are seeing significant rates, then it's time to bump up the amount of storage assigned to this system. Mark Post
CMS formatter for z/Linux disks available at Sinenomine.net
I completed the CMS formatter for Linux disks Sunday and sent it out to some people to test Monday. David Boyes tested it and put it up on the Sinenomine site. You can download the VMARC package from http://www.sinenomine.net/vm/lnxfmt Enjoy and have a great holiday season, Rick Rick Bourgeois, President Virtual Software Systems, Inc. 7715 Browns Bridge Rd Gainesville, GA 30506 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770-781-3200
Tape IPL failure
Hi list, we just received our z/VM trial tape and are having a bit of a problem IPLing it. We have a z9 BC machine with an IFL. When we IPL the tape we get either a device or controller busy message or a timeout message. We made sure the devices and chpds for the tape was offline to the other systems. There are 4 z/OS lpars running on the machine utilizing the 3 general purpose engines. The tape and dasd are shared. We made sure the tape was OK by running FATAR from the same drive we were trying to IPL from. Any suggestions? Thanks Bobby Bauer Center for Information Technology National Institutes of Health Bethesda, MD 20892-5628 301-594-7474
Tues, Dec 4 - Linux on System z Security - Live Virtual Class
In response to listserv questions and offline comments about the LVCs and the snow, plus a question for you about LVC topics. The LVC's are listed on the VM events calendar. http://www.vm.ibm.com I don't think there's an email subscriber list for LVC's, but if you like to be subscribed to something, perhaps you can subscribe to the VM Education LVC page updates (click Notify Me on this page - http://www.vm.ibm.com/education/lvc/ ) Even if you miss the live call, you can listen to the replays. Replay info is also on the VM Educ LVC page. Make a note...there are two more LVC's coming up in December: Dec. 11 - 11:00 AM ET Making z/VM and Linux Guests Production Ready.. Best Practices Presented by Jon vonWolfersdorf https://asp22.centra.com/main/User/GuestAttend.jhtml?s_guid=005d3ac0011610802ba79770domain=/Customers/ibmstg AND ... Dec. 13 11:00 AM ET DB2 Server for VSEVM Version 7.5: New Features Presented by Frank C. Fillmore, Jr. of The Fillmore Group https://asp22.centra.com/main/User/GuestAttend.jhtml?s_guid=005f1ba801164c1cd160bb8ddomain=/Customers/ibmstg To those who asked me about the cold and snow - sorry I inadvertently left off the y. Yes, we do indeed have snow in Endicott, NY - Sunday morning, Monday afternoon, and we awoke to more overnight. Schools are closed today (Tues). Not complaining as I have a functional down coat, lots of scarves, and a 4WD that works fine in the snow. :-) Now, my question for youwhat other topics for z/VM, z/VSE, and Linux on System z you like to hear in the LVC format? It's ok to suggest topics that you don't often hear at SHARE or at the z Tech conferences, and special interest areas. Feel free to append or to send to me offline. Regards, Pam C P.S. A tidbit for today System z9 is now a registered trademark of IBM.
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Re: Incomplete monitor data: SAMPLE CONFIG size too small
I have yet to see the 5.3 version of the manual, but that section in the 5.2 version is patently incorrect. When I tried to open an apar to get the right numbers (I didn't go the RCF route because getting it corrected in a future edition wasn't going to help with the problem I was having) I was counselled that that wouldn't help, but an internal issue would be opened and I could expect that relief would be forthcoming. That was several months ago and I'm still waiting... (I eventually arrived at happy/reasonable allocations for the monitor dcss through trial and retrial, as others have done; but that doesn't help the next one to run into the same wall.) Mike Harding EDS VM National Capability 134 El Portal Place Clayton, Ca. USA 94517-1742 * phone: +01-925-672-4403 * Fax: +01-925-672-4403 * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) Note: For 2007, I am off on Fridays with even Julian dates and Mondays with odd ones. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Ackerman Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 9:02 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Incomplete monitor data: SAMPLE CONFIG size too small See Calculating the Space Needed for the Saved Segment in z/VM V5R3.0 Performance. Alan Ackerman Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
Re: Tape IPL failure
Bobby, I am on my way out the door soon, but a couple of quick questions. Are you using the integrated 3270 console for your installation? Is the tape drive online to that LPAR? Are the packs online to that LPAR? On the LOAD panel did you use the Load address of your tape drive? Did you use a Load parameter of CNSLSCLP or SYSG ? good luck Bill Munson VM System Programmer Office of Information Technology State of New Jersey (609) 984-4065 President MVMUA http://www.marist.edu/~mvmua Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E] wrote: Hi list, we just received our z/VM trial tape and are having a bit of a problem IPLing it. We have a z9 BC machine with an IFL. When we IPL the tape we get either a device or controller busy message or a timeout message. We made sure the devices and chpds for the tape was offline to the other systems. There are 4 z/OS lpars running on the machine utilizing the 3 general purpose engines. The tape and dasd are shared. We made sure the tape was OK by running FATAR from the same drive we were trying to IPL from. Any suggestions? Thanks Bobby Bauer Center for Information Technology National Institutes of Health Bethesda, MD 20892-5628 301-594-7474
Re: Incomplete monitor data: SAMPLE CONFIG size too small
For those with esamon, esamon creates the dcss and starts the monitor correctly to avoid such problems. Harding, Mike wrote: I have yet to see the 5.3 version of the manual, but that section in the 5.2 version is patently incorrect. When I tried to open an apar to get the right numbers (I didn't go the RCF route because getting it corrected in a future edition wasn't going to help with the problem I was having) I was counselled that that wouldn't help, but an internal issue would be opened and I could expect that relief would be forthcoming. That was several months ago and I'm still waiting... (I eventually arrived at happy/reasonable allocations for the monitor dcss through trial and retrial, as others have done; but that doesn't help the next one to run into the same wall.) Mike Harding EDS VM National Capability 134 El Portal Place Clayton, Ca. USA 94517-1742 * phone: +01-925-672-4403 * Fax: +01-925-672-4403 * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) Note: For 2007, I am off on Fridays with even Julian dates and Mondays with odd ones. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Ackerman Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 9:02 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Incomplete monitor data: SAMPLE CONFIG size too small See Calculating the Space Needed for the Saved Segment in z/VM V5R3.0 Performance. Alan Ackerman Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
Re: Incomplete monitor data: SAMPLE CONFIG size too small
And believe me, I'd much rather we were using esamon. Mike Harding EDS VM National Capability 134 El Portal Place Clayton, Ca. USA 94517-1742 * phone: +01-925-672-4403 * Fax: +01-925-672-4403 * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) Note: For 2007, I am off on Fridays with even Julian dates and Mondays with odd ones. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of barton Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 1:50 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Incomplete monitor data: SAMPLE CONFIG size too small For those with esamon, esamon creates the dcss and starts the monitor correctly to avoid such problems.
FTP
Is it possible to FTP a flat file on CMS to a member of a PDS, as below, on MVS? PUT fn.ft mvs.dsn(fn) Regards, Richard Schuh
Re: FTP
On Tue, Dec 4, 2007 at 6:37 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to FTP a flat file on CMS to a member of a PDS, as below, on MVS? PUT fn.ft mvs.dsn(fn) I've done it from a PC before, so I have to believe it will work. Mark Post
Re: FTP
Thanks, Mark. We will give it a try. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 3:42 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: FTP On Tue, Dec 4, 2007 at 6:37 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to FTP a flat file on CMS to a member of a PDS, as below, on MVS? PUT fn.ft mvs.dsn(fn) I've done it from a PC before, so I have to believe it will work. Mark Post
Re: FTP
To FTP a file to a member of a PDS do the following: ftp mvs-host enter userid/pw mode b type e cd pds-dsname put cms-file member-name quit the mode b sets block mode and type e sets ebcdic char set - this is optimal for z to z ftp hope this helps Lionel B. Dyck, Consultant/Specialist Enterprise Platform Services, Mainframe Engineering KP-IT Enterprise Engineering 925-926-5332 (8-473-5332) | E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: lbdyck | Yahoo IM: lbdyck Kaiser Service Credo: Our cause is health. Our passion is service. We?re here to make lives better.? I never guess. It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle NOTICE TO RECIPIENT: If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are prohibited from sharing, copying, or otherwise using or disclosing its contents. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete this e-mail and any attachments without reading, forwarding or saving them. Thank you.
Re: FTP
Even better. Thanks. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lionel B. Dyck Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 3:54 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: FTP To FTP a file to a member of a PDS do the following: ftp mvs-host enter userid/pw mode b type e cd pds-dsname put cms-file member-name quit the mode b sets block mode and type e sets ebcdic char set - this is optimal for z to z ftp hope this helps Lionel B. Dyck, Consultant/Specialist Enterprise Platform Services, Mainframe Engineering KP-IT Enterprise Engineering 925-926-5332 (8-473-5332) | E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: lbdyck | Yahoo IM: lbdyck Kaiser Service Credo: Our cause is health. Our passion is service. We're here to make lives better. I never guess. It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle NOTICE TO RECIPIENT: If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are prohibited from sharing, copying, or otherwise using or disclosing its contents. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete this e-mail and any attachments without reading, forwarding or saving them. Thank you.
Re: FTP
Richard, It works just fine - as in: put profile.exec 'noal.labsys.rexx(profile)' from my z/VM user-id to a z/OS PDS, which now has - BROWSENOAL.LABSYS.REXX(PROFILE) - 01.00 Command === * Top of Data ** /* */ SET CMSTYPE HT SYNONYM SYN 'CP TERM MODE VM' 'CP SET RUN ON' 'CP TERM TIMESTAMP OFF' 'CP SP CONS STOP CLOSE' 'CP PURGE * PRT CL T' SET PF12 RETRIEVE SET PF24 RETRIEVE 'CP LINK TCPMAINT 592 592 RR' ACCESS 592 T ACCESS 5E5 B ACCESS 2CC C ACCESS 51D D 'SET FILEPOOL VMSYS:' 'SET LDRTBLS 25' 'EXEC TERMOFF' SET CMSTYPE RT A copy of my CMS Profile Exec. HITACHI DATA SYSTEMS Raymond E. Noal Senior Technical Engineer Office: (408) 970 - 7978 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 3:38 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: FTP Is it possible to FTP a flat file on CMS to a member of a PDS, as below, on MVS? PUT fn.ft mvs.dsn(fn) Regards, Richard Schuh
