Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-15 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 6:56 AM, Marcy Cortes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 No kidding, MA.   I will be using that gender-based HE stuff :)  Perhaps
  it still has time to come back as a z10 or better yet a zA.

As for zA - I'm pretty sure that would suggest folks outside Europe
that IBM did a major software acquisition :-) and keep IBM Legal busy
for quite a while...

Rob


OT: gmail advertising

2008-02-15 Thread Rob van der Heij
Since it's friday here...

As you may know GMAIL funds their e-mail service by putting
advertising on your screen that is sort-of related to the text of your
e-mail. I frequently have my fun with the various Plumber
announcements and off-short job positions dealing with Pipelines.

But today a mail about hardware support for LPAR and/or  z/VM was
decorated with a link to this one: http://www.jacknob.com/

-Rob


Re: gmail advertising

2008-02-15 Thread David Boyes
 But today a mail about hardware support for LPAR and/or  z/VM was
 decorated with a link to this one: http://www.jacknob.com/

Adds a whole new meaning to scalable. 

-- db


Re: gmail advertising

2008-02-15 Thread Gentry, Stephen
Looks like their Turk (from SC:Terminator series) needs a little work
yet.


-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rob van der Heij
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 6:05 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: OT: gmail advertising

Since it's friday here...

As you may know GMAIL funds their e-mail service by putting
advertising on your screen that is sort-of related to the text of your
e-mail. I frequently have my fun with the various Plumber
announcements and off-short job positions dealing with Pipelines.

But today a mail about hardware support for LPAR and/or  z/VM was
decorated with a link to this one: http://www.jacknob.com/

-Rob


Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-15 Thread Gentry, Stephen
I want to see what happens when IBM gets to the zZ processor. Their TOP
of the line processor. (yep, zZ/TOP).  (. . . and yep, it's a Friday).

Steve G.

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marcy Cortes
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 12:56 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Any Rumors?

No kidding, MA.   I will be using that gender-based HE stuff :)  Perhaps
it still has time to come back as a z10 or better yet a zA.

zA = a really yummy pizza chain here in SF :) -- although maybe the case
is reversed, huh.

Marcy Cortes 

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Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 6:27 PM
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Do you regret getting us started on this tangent yet?
Uh, yes. Though most of these have been very entertaining. :) 
MA


Re: Installation Verification Procedures

2008-02-15 Thread Gentry, Stephen
I can't let this one go by . . .

VM is probably a little more stable than MVS after an initial install,
hence it's lack of IVP.

 

I'll be in my Fortress of Solitude now.  (It's also flame-proof).  8-)

 

Steve G.

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Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 8:15 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Installation Verification Procedures

 


Does anybody run some form of Installation Verification Procedures
(IVP's) for z/VM's base components? If so, are they home-grown, or where
did you find them? 

I note that some licensed products for z/VM have IVP's in their Program
Directories, but don't see anything mentioned for the z/VM base or the
Performance Toolkit, etc. 

Coming from an MVS background, it is pretty standard to run IVP's to at
least verify basic functionality of products, so you know that
installation was performed correctly. 

Regards,
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Department of Corporate and Information Services (DCIS)
Data Centre Services (DCS)
Northern Territory Government, Australia



Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-15 Thread Dave Jones

Marcy Cortes wrote:

No kidding, MA.   I will be using that gender-based HE stuff :)  Perhaps
it still has time to come back as a z10 or better yet a zA.

zA = a really yummy pizza chain here in SF :) -- although maybe the case
is reversed, huh.

Marcy Cortes 

Is your data center ready? Build it and HE will come :-) It's 
Friday here, too.

--
DJ

V/Soft
  z/VM and mainframe Linux expertise, training,
  consulting, and software development
www.vsoft-software.com


Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-15 Thread Phil Smith III
Mary Anne Matyaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, when asked Do you regret getting 
us started on this tangent yet?:
Uh, yes. Though most of these have been very entertaining. :)

We're a bunch of pikers.  The gang on IBM-MAIN would have taken this thread 
into at least seven completely irrelevant discussions and two flamewars by now. 
 What's wrong with us???

...phsiii


Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-15 Thread Huegel, Thomas
I thought of this thread last night while watching 'Deal or No Deal' (yes I
do have a social life) they got the male contestant to wear high heels and a
dress. Could the next generation mainframe also be a cross dresser? Able to
run a real operating system and windoze? The designation might be Z/w.  

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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Phil Smith III
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 7:44 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Any Rumors?


Mary Anne Matyaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, when asked Do you regret
getting us started on this tangent yet?:
Uh, yes. Though most of these have been very entertaining. :)

We're a bunch of pikers.  The gang on IBM-MAIN would have taken this thread
into at least seven completely irrelevant discussions and two flamewars by
now.  What's wrong with us???

...phsiii


Re: OT: gmail advertising

2008-02-15 Thread Mark Pace
What timing!  I was just wondering where I could get a pouch.

On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 6:05 AM, Rob van der Heij [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Since it's friday here...

 As you may know GMAIL funds their e-mail service by putting
 advertising on your screen that is sort-of related to the text of your
 e-mail. I frequently have my fun with the various Plumber
 announcements and off-short job positions dealing with Pipelines.

 But today a mail about hardware support for LPAR and/or  z/VM was
 decorated with a link to this one: http://www.jacknob.com/

 -Rob




-- 
Mark Pace
Mainline Information Systems


emaulating older CPU

2008-02-15 Thread Ken Vance
Hi,

This is a bit of a long shot, but is it possible for a newer z990 LPAR to 
emulate an older processor such as a 9672 Z67?  We need to validate a TPF 
system on this box, and we were wondering if VM could simulate this.

Thanks,

Ken Vance
System Programmer/Analyst, Operating System Services - Support Platforms
Software Services
Amadeus Data Processing GmbH
Erding
Germany
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Re: CA VM:Operator

2008-02-15 Thread Ken Watson
Ken: Linux commands are case sensitive too so I use this EXEC:

/* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */ 
/* ITS Test System Support  001206kw */ 
/* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */ 
/* LINUXEXEC: Send a command to a Linux guest.   */ 
/* 
 * Updates: 
 *  yymmdd ... 
 */ 
Trace 'E' 
Parse Source . . exnm . 
exmsg = '*' exnm':' 
exerr = exmsg 'ERROR -' 
 
Parse Arg uid cmd 
UPPER uid 
 
Parse UPPER Var cmd cmd1 . 
Select 
   When cmd1 = 'CP' Then Do 
  cmd1 = 'CP' 
  UPPER cmd 
   End 
   When cmd1 = 'CMS' Then Do 
  cmd1 = '' 
  UPPER cmd 
   End 
   Otherwise cmd1 = '' 
End 
  
Parse Value Diagrc(8,'CP SEND' cmd1 uid Strip(cmd,'B')) With cprc . cpresp 
 
If cprc  0 Then Do  
   Say exerr 'CP SEND' cmd1 uid cmd '-rc='rc  
   Do Until cpresp = ''  
  Parse Value cpresp With cprsp '15'x cpresp  
  Say exerr Strip(cprsp,'B')  
   End  
End  
Exit cprc 




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=20
'CP SET SECUSER OSC0F1 TPFOPER3'=20

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FILE0001I 14.36.55 START OF DISPLAY FROM echo test=20
test=20
END OF DISPLAY $$$ FILE0001I+=20
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Thanks,

Ken Vance
System Programmer/Analyst, Operating System Services - Support Platforms
Software Services
Amadeus Data Processing GmbH
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Re: OT: gmail advertising

2008-02-15 Thread Adam Thornton

On Feb 15, 2008, at 5:05 AM, Rob van der Heij wrote:


Since it's friday here...

As you may know GMAIL funds their e-mail service by putting
advertising on your screen that is sort-of related to the text of your
e-mail. I frequently have my fun with the various Plumber
announcements and off-short job positions dealing with Pipelines.

But today a mail about hardware support for LPAR and/or  z/VM was
decorated with a link to this one: http://www.jacknob.com/


I gotta say, that's much more innocuous than what I feared when I saw  
the URL.


Adam


Re: CA VM:Operator

2008-02-15 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
SEND upper cases it.  I use this SENDLNX EXEC:
 
/* REXX */

address COMMAND

parse arg linuxid cmd

upper linuxid

cpcmd = 'SEND' linuxid cmd

say cpcmd

cprc = substr(Diagrc(8,cpcmd),1,9)

say cprc

exit cprc

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Of Ken Vance
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 9:41 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: CA VM:Operator



Hi, 

Has anyone used CA's VM:Operator to send lower case commands to a 
guest?  Is the uppercase translation being done by the VM SEND command?  I set 
my Id as secuser to a TPF guest.  I then issue a SEND command with a lower case 
component, but it appears to be translated to uppercase. 

I there a way to allow the lower case to be processed? 


/* */ 
'CP SET SECUSER OSC0F1 OSX014' 
  
'SEND OSC0F1 zfile echo test' 
  
'CP SET SECUSER OSC0F1 TPFOPER3'   

-- 
  
HCPCFX6768I Your SECUSER set to OSX014 by OSX014. 
CVAA0001I 14.19.30 S1   0901  -- ZFILE ECHO TEST 
FILE0002I 14.19.30 START OF ERROR DISPLAY FROM ECHO TEST   
ECHO: not found   
END OF DISPLAY $$$ FILE0002I+ 

If I use a VM:Operator console, and enter the command, it works OK.  It 
only seems to be a problem if you want to send the command from an exec on 
another machine. 

zfile echo test   
Sent from OSX014 : zfile echo test 
CVAA0001I 14.36.55 S1   0901  -- ZFILE ECHO TEST 
FILE0001I 14.36.55 START OF DISPLAY FROM echo test 
test   
END OF DISPLAY $$$ FILE0001I+   
  

Thanks, 

Ken Vance
System Programmer/Analyst, Operating System Services - Support Platforms
Software Services
Amadeus Data Processing GmbH
Erding
Germany
T: +49 (0) 8122 - 43 40 62
F: +49 (0) 8122 - 43 32 60
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Re: emaulating older CPU

2008-02-15 Thread Kris Buelens
A pure VM never simulates a different processor, it even never
simulated older disk models (e.g. a 3390 minidisk with  cylinders,
but located on a 3390 mdl 3 pack was still reported as 3390 mdl 3.

Operating systems that are ware of VM being on top of them may have a
better chance of running under VM as opposed to native as they might
avoid certain things, knowing that VM takes care of it.  But, that's
all.

Internally IBM has some tool, derived from VM, that simulates more
things.  I don't know details though and it is not available outside
anyway.

2008/2/15, Ken Vance [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi,

 This is a bit of a long shot, but is it possible for a newer z990 LPAR to 
 emulate an older processor such as a 9672 Z67?  We need to validate a TPF 
 system on this box, and we were wondering if VM could simulate this.

 Thanks,

  Ken Vance
  System Programmer/Analyst, Operating System Services - Support Platforms
  Software Services
  Amadeus Data Processing GmbH
  Erding
  Germany
  T: +49 (0) 8122 - 43 40 62
  F: +49 (0) 8122 - 43 32 60
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]




-- 
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IBM Belgium, VM customer support


CA VM:Operator

2008-02-15 Thread Ken Vance
Hi,

Has anyone used CA's VM:Operator to send lower case commands to a guest? 
Is the uppercase translation being done by the VM SEND command?  I set my 
Id as secuser to a TPF guest.  I then issue a SEND command with a lower 
case component, but it appears to be translated to uppercase.

I there a way to allow the lower case to be processed?


/* */ 
'CP SET SECUSER OSC0F1 OSX014' 
 
'SEND OSC0F1 zfile echo test' 
 
'CP SET SECUSER OSC0F1 TPFOPER3' 

--
 
HCPCFX6768I Your SECUSER set to OSX014 by OSX014. 
CVAA0001I 14.19.30 S1   0901  -- ZFILE ECHO TEST 
FILE0002I 14.19.30 START OF ERROR DISPLAY FROM ECHO TEST 
ECHO: not found 
END OF DISPLAY $$$ FILE0002I+ 

If I use a VM:Operator console, and enter the command, it works OK.  It 
only seems to be a problem if you want to send the command from an exec on 
another machine.

zfile echo test 
Sent from OSX014 : zfile echo test 
CVAA0001I 14.36.55 S1   0901  -- ZFILE ECHO TEST 
FILE0001I 14.36.55 START OF DISPLAY FROM echo test 
test 
END OF DISPLAY $$$ FILE0001I+ 
 

Thanks,

Ken Vance
System Programmer/Analyst, Operating System Services - Support Platforms
Software Services
Amadeus Data Processing GmbH
Erding
Germany
T: +49 (0) 8122 - 43 40 62
F: +49 (0) 8122 - 43 32 60
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Re: emaulating older CPU

2008-02-15 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 02/15/2008 at 09:19 EST, Ken Vance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is a bit of a long shot, but is it possible for a newer z990 LPAR 
to 
 emulate an older processor such as a 9672 Z67?  We need to validate a 
TPF 
 system on this box, and we were wondering if VM could simulate this.

No.  One of the primary differences between System z virtualization and 
other platforms is that z/VM and LPAR give the guest access to the real 
hardware.  It is what it is, and there is no provision in the hardware to 
trap out if a guest issues an instruction that exists on the z990, but 
not on the 9672.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: CA VM:Operator

2008-02-15 Thread Kris Buelens
You miss ADDRESS COMMAND, without that, CMS xlates every command toi
uppercase.

2008/2/15, Ken Vance [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 Hi,

 Has anyone used CA's VM:Operator to send lower case commands to a guest?
  Is the uppercase translation being done by the VM SEND command?  I set my
 Id as secuser to a TPF guest.  I then issue a SEND command with a lower case
 component, but it appears to be translated to uppercase.

 I there a way to allow the lower case to be processed?


 /* */
 'CP SET SECUSER OSC0F1 OSX014'

 'SEND OSC0F1 zfile echo test'

 'CP SET SECUSER OSC0F1 TPFOPER3'

 --

 HCPCFX6768I Your SECUSER set to OSX014 by OSX014.
 CVAA0001I 14.19.30 S1   0901  -- ZFILE ECHO TEST
 FILE0002I 14.19.30 START OF ERROR DISPLAY FROM ECHO TEST
 ECHO: not found
 END OF DISPLAY $$$ FILE0002I+

 If I use a VM:Operator console, and enter the command, it works OK.  It
 only seems to be a problem if you want to send the command from an exec on
 another machine.

 zfile echo test
 Sent from OSX014 : zfile echo test
 CVAA0001I 14.36.55 S1   0901  -- ZFILE ECHO TEST
 FILE0001I 14.36.55 START OF DISPLAY FROM echo test
 test
 END OF DISPLAY $$$ FILE0001I+


 Thanks,

 *Ken Vance**
 System Programmer/Analyst, Operating System Services - Support Platforms*
 Software Services
 Amadeus Data Processing GmbH
 Erding
 Germany
 T: +49 (0) 8122 - 43 40 62
 F: +49 (0) 8122 - 43 32 60
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Re: How comments treated by DIRMAINT

2008-02-15 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 02/15/2008 at 10:10 EST, Horlick, Michael 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The line ?LINK QALPCS 0500 0500 MW? has been shuffled after the comment 
line 
 ?*  360 - ZYZMGH (Master Catalog, Power, Hardcopy,Recorder,etc...)?
 
 So what?s the secret here? 

I would suggest opening a PMR and getting people In The Know to help you.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-15 Thread Adam Thornton

On Feb 15, 2008, at 7:11 AM, Gentry, Stephen wrote:

I want to see what happens when IBM gets to the zZ processor. Their  
TOP

of the line processor. (yep, zZ/TOP).  (. . . and yep, it's a Friday).


a-HAW HAW HAW

Adam


Re: Installation Verification Procedures

2008-02-15 Thread Adam Thornton

On Feb 15, 2008, at 9:07 AM, Alan Altmark wrote:

Program products have IVPs because  I don't know.  The great thing
about computers, unlike people, is that they reliably do the same  
thing

every time.


Here speaks a man who works in Endicott, not in Redmond.

Adam


Re: CA VM:Operator

2008-02-15 Thread Kris Buelens
It is not SEND that uppercases it, SUBCOM CMS is, what is addressed by
PIPE's CMS stage, ADDRESS CMS in REXX, XEDIT's command line, ...
In the exec below, the DIAG function is used and address COMMAND/CMS makes
no difference there.  If SEND were to uppercase, the bypass using REXX
DIAG(8,'SEND xxx' )  or PIPE CP SEND xxx wouldn't work.

2008/2/15, Stracka, James (GTI) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  SEND upper cases it.  I use this SENDLNX EXEC:


 /* REXX */

 address COMMAND

 parse arg linuxid cmd

 upper linuxid

 cpcmd = 'SEND' linuxid cmd

 say cpcmd

 cprc = substr(Diagrc(8,cpcmd),1,9)

 say cprc

 exit cprc


-- 
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support


Re: How comments treated by DIRMAINT

2008-02-15 Thread Horlick, Michael
Ok, will do.

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Alan Altmark
Sent: February 15, 2008 10:29 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: How comments treated by DIRMAINT

On Friday, 02/15/2008 at 10:10 EST, Horlick, Michael 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The line ?LINK QALPCS 0500 0500 MW? has been shuffled after the
comment 
line 
 ?*  360 - ZYZMGH (Master Catalog, Power, Hardcopy,Recorder,etc...)?
 
 So what?s the secret here? 

I would suggest opening a PMR and getting people In The Know to help
you.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: How comments treated by DIRMAINT

2008-02-15 Thread Horlick, Michael
Greetings,

 

Hopefully you can see the attachments. I created a user, got its
directory entry from DIRMAINT, saw that it was shuffled a bit, put in
back in the way I wanted (see ESAMGH BEFORE) and did a DIRM REPLACE
followed by DIRM GET NOLOCK. Did a RECEIVE as ESAMGH AFTER. These are
the actual directory entries except for the passwords.

 

Take a look at the bottom of the directory entry.

 

The line LINK QALPCS 0500 0500 MW has been shuffled after the comment
line *  360 - ZYZMGH (Master Catalog, Power, Hardcopy,Recorder,etc...)

 

So what's the secret here? 

 

Regards,

 

Mike

USER ESAMGH X 300M 1024M BEG02131358
* === Generated on 13 Feb 2008   13:00:00   for: z/VSE 4.1.002131358
*   02131358
* +===+ 02131358
* | DATE   | CHANGES --- CHANGEMENT|INITS | 02131358
* +--+-+--+ 02131358
* |02/13/08| First time created for z/VSE 4.1.0  (330) | MH   | 02131358
* +--+-+--+ 02131358
   ACCOUNT ESAMGH TECH.SUP  02131358
   IPL CMS  02131358
   MACHINE ESA 302131358
   OPTION MAINTCCW CPUID 130007 QUICKDSP02131358
*  SHARE ABSOLUTE 29%   02131358
   CONSOLE 0009 321502131358
*   02131358
* =VIRTUAL CTCA'S =   02131358
*   02131358
   SPECIAL 0293 308802131358
   SPECIAL 02A3 308802131358
   SPECIAL 0610 308802131358
   SPECIAL 0611 308802131358
   SPECIAL 0612 308802131358
   SPECIAL 0613 308802131358
   SPECIAL 0710 308802131358
   SPECIAL 0711 308802131358
   SPECIAL 0712 308802131358
   SPECIAL 0713 308802131358
*   02131358
* =VSE/ESA Console and dialables  =   02131358
*   02131358
   SPECIAL 0EEE 327002131358
   SPECIAL 0F10 327002131358
   SPECIAL 0F11 327002131358
   SPECIAL 0F12 327002131358
   SPECIAL 0F13 327002131358
   SPECIAL 0F14 327002131358
   SPECIAL 0F15 327002131358
   SPECIAL 0F16 327002131358
   SPECIAL 0F17 327002131358
   SPOOL 000C 2540 READER Q 02131358
   SPOOL 000D 2540 PUNCH A  02131358
   SPOOL 000E 3203 A02131358
   SPOOL 0FD0 2540 PUNCH A  02131358
   SPOOL 0FE0 3203 A02131358
   SPOOL 0FE1 3203 A02131358
   LINK MAINT 0190 0190 RR  02131358
   LINK MAINT 019E 019E RR  02131358
   LINK VSEMAINT 0191 0191 RR   02131358
*   02131358
* =  z/VSE   System Disks =   02131358
*  (330/331/332)02131358
*|  02131358
   LINK ESAMNT 0330 0330 RR 02131358
*   02131358
* =  VSE/ESA 

Re: VM/370 Release 6 Waterloo tape (CIA MODS)

2008-02-15 Thread Mike Walter
Mark,

In possession of a number of old Workshop tapes, I found a TAPEMON 
ASSEMBLE and PROC MACRO on the 1986 Waterloo Tools tape distributed at the 
1986 VM Workshop which was held at the University of Kentucky.

The other files were not on the tape, and even these may not be the ones 
you are searching for. 
The PROC MACRO had no evidence of the author (if it was the CIA, perhaps 
that makes sense?).  But it was part of the tape containing the old 
CPWATCH utility, something attributed as: written originally by  Gary 
George at COMINCO Ltd, Trail, B.C.,  Canada.  

The TAPEMON ASSEMBLE showed:
---snip---
PROGRAM: 
 
   TAPEMON 
 
FUNCTION: 
 
   TAPEMON RUNS IN A DVM AND RECEIVES SMSG COMMANDS FROM USERS 
   TO MOUNT TAPE VOLUMES AND MANAGE A LIBRARY. 
 
AUTHOR: DON JOHNSON, STORAGE TECHNOLOGY CORPORATION 
---snip---

Mike Walter 
Hewitt Associates 
Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily 
represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.




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Does anyone have a copy of the old Waterloo tapes CIA Mods tape referen
ced
in this entry in the ABSTRACT ABSTRACT of the Waterloo tape for VM/370 Re
l6? 

M1086V00CIA MODS-- Our local mods that have been contributed to the
Waterloo VM Library now consume more than a reel of tape. Since our
local facilities tend to be of interest to a relatively small number of
installations, we will merely place a notice of availability for mods
that have been updated to the current level of VM/370. RELEASE6 MEMO
describes our contributions and current level of VM/370. They
include: 1) Batch Monitor Facility - A disconnected virtual machine
that monitors and controls jobs submitted for processing on remote
batch systems. Formerly M0081V00 on Release 5. 2) PROC Structure
Macros and Library - The PROC system is a set of several hundred
assembly language macros
that perform a variety of functions, including subroutine linkage and
storage allocation. Formerly M1112V00 on Release 5. 3) SEDIT - An
editor that is more powerful than EDIT yet less than XEDIT. Formerly
M1113V00 on Release 5. 4) TAPEMON - A disconnected service virtual
machine that processes user requests for tape drives and volumes. 5)
CLASSIFY - A printed output classification facility that allows users to
specify protective markings to be 'rubber stamped' at the top and
bottom of spool files directed to the real printer. This mod is
M1085V00 on this Release 6 Library.--David Farnham, Central
Intelligence Agency, ODP/SPD, Washington, D.C. 20505, (703) 351-6078,
August 27, 1980.

Please advise. Thanks.



 
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Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-15 Thread David Boyes



On 2/15/08 9:11 AM, Huegel, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I thought of this thread last night while watching 'Deal or No Deal' (yes I
 do have a social life)
 
 Braggart. 
 
 8-)
 



Re: Installation Verification Procedures

2008-02-15 Thread Doug Breneman

Hi All,
Many years ago there was an Installation Verification Procedure for VM.
This was mostly directed toward CMS tasks.  We found that this was not very
useful and removed it from our product documentation.  We have a list of
some items that we use as an IVP when we get a new release of VM.  This is
not an official IBM IVP.  This include things like:

CP IPL (MP) - stop if you cannot do this :-)
CMS IPL (190 and Segment) - needed to do many other things.  190 is needed
if the segment fails
GCS IPL  - needed for RSCS and other applications
RSCS Initializes - needed for sending/receiving files
PVM Initializes  - remote system access
SFS Initializes - file storage
TCP/IP Initializes
Able to logon to the system via telnet - remote system access
Able to FTP to and from VM - needed for sending/receiving files
NETSTAT command functions - needed for our environment
Run test workloads to reach 50-70% CPU load for 4 hours. - load that is
reasonable for us to ensure some stability.  The test workloads vary.
Linux and z/OS each IPL second level. - needed for our environment
 Workloads must run on both of these guest operating systems.

These are some of the things that we do to initially verify the installed
VM.  If all of these work, then we have a good chance that we can continue
to use the new release.  The items that are important to you might vary
from this list. I hope this list might act as one example.

Doug Breneman  z/VM Development  IBM  Endicott, NY



   
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 every time.

Here speaks a man who works in Endicott, not in Redmond.

Adam


Urgent Help Requested...Sorry for this post.

2008-02-15 Thread Howard Rifkind
Hello folks;
   
  Sorry to post this message like this but it is urgent.
   
  Yesterday at 1500 the management who I work for laid me off, eliminated my 
position … whatever it is I’m now out of a job.  They said that there wasn’t 
anything left to do on the mainframe being it’s life will end in 6/30/2008.  
Some severance pay but not that much.
   
  Would have been nice if they would have told me this and given me until June 
to look around for a new position being how tight things are now on the 
mainframe side.
   
  The mainframe is being elimated on June 30, 2008 and I was the last systems 
programmer in the house.  They also let one other person go, he was a mainframe 
scheduler.  I have some Novell/Console 1/Imanager experience and can find my 
way around Linux but not an expert.
   
  Running z/OS 1.4 – CICS TS 2.3  Installed and ran z/VM 4.4.
   
  Looking for work in the New York/New Jersey Metro area…anyone know of 
anything out there or a real good head hunter.  If so please let me know off 
line.
   
  Saw Dice posting, 15 postings for 3 or so jobs.
   
  Again sorry about this post but I need help.
   
  Thanks

   
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Our web site www.vm.ibm.com will be out of service from Sunday, Feb 17, 

2008 00:01 AM EST to Sunday, Feb 17, 2008, 06:00 AM EST.


Re: z/OS 1.7 under VM 4.4

2008-02-15 Thread Jim Moling
Well, I know that z/OS 1.7 will run under z/VM 4.4 on a 2064 (z/900) ...



Could someone tell me if z/OS 1.7 will run under z/VM 4.4 on a 2066?  I
know it is unsupported, but one step at a time.

Thank you,
Scott R Wandschneider


Re: Urgent Help Requested...Sorry for this post.

2008-02-15 Thread LOREN CHARNLEY
Howard,

 

Try looking on Velocity Software website, they have a jobs posting
there.www.velocity-software.com http://www.velocity-software.com/


 

Sorry to hear about your plight, hope that you find something soon.

Loren Charnley, Jr. 
IT Systems Engineer 
Family Dollar Stores, Inc. 
(704) 847-6961 Ext. 3327 
(704) 814-3327 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Howard Rifkind
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 2:08 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Urgent Help Requested...Sorry for this post.

 

Hello folks;

 

Sorry to post this message like this but it is urgent.

 

Yesterday at 1500 the management who I work for laid me off, eliminated
my position ... whatever it is I'm now out of a job.  They said that
there wasn't anything left to do on the mainframe being it's life will
end in 6/30/2008.  Some severance pay but not that much.

 

Would have been nice if they would have told me this and given me until
June to look around for a new position being how tight things are now on
the mainframe side.

 

The mainframe is being elimated on June 30, 2008 and I was the last
systems programmer in the house.  They also let one other person go, he
was a mainframe scheduler.  I have some Novell/Console 1/Imanager
experience and can find my way around Linux but not an expert.

 

Running z/OS 1.4 - CICS TS 2.3  Installed and ran z/VM 4.4.

 

Looking for work in the New York/New Jersey Metro area...anyone know of
anything out there or a real good head hunter.  If so please let me know
off line.

 

Saw Dice posting, 15 postings for 3 or so jobs.

 

Again sorry about this post but I need help.

 

Thanks

  



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Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-15 Thread Gregg C Levine
Hello!
Because we've outgrown such peculiar behavior? Besides my only complaint
concerning the road show discussions that came up earlier is that NYC wasn't
selected as a host city for one of the events.

Having attended one of a sort, last year, and got some what bored with most
of it, but still found the time to be interested in the issues concerning
what Z/OS plans on doing as it evolves, I believed then, and still do today
that they didn't properly address the fact that an operating system like
that needs to be a guest to do proper work as does Linux.

And Phil you do know the definition of the word piker? It was what the user
of a pike was called. Those things can and would topple a mounted
individual.
--
Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Force will be with you always. Obi-Wan Kenobi
  


 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Phil Smith III
 Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 8:44 AM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: Any Rumors?
 
 Mary Anne Matyaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, when asked Do you regret
 getting us started on this tangent yet?:
 Uh, yes. Though most of these have been very entertaining. :)
 
 We're a bunch of pikers.  The gang on IBM-MAIN would have taken this
thread into at
 least seven completely irrelevant discussions and two flamewars by now.
What's wrong
 with us???
 
 ...phsiii


Re: OT: gmail advertising

2008-02-15 Thread Berry van Sleeuwen
When we need to abort a job on VSE it gets flushed quite often. Hm, I
wonder... did those bits end up in a pipe of some sort? If so, what pipe
would that be?

Berry.


Re: VM/370 Release 6 Waterloo tape (CIA MODS)

2008-02-15 Thread Berry van Sleeuwen
Hello Mark,

In the Hercules comunity this tape is available in AWS format.

On cbttape.org it can be found in the vm/370-r6 page.

Regards, Berry.


Re: How comments treated by DIRMAINT

2008-02-15 Thread Ivica Brodaric
DIRMAINT groups all LINKs first, MDISKs next. What makes it do it and can
this be disabled, I can't remember. Possibly SORT_BY_DEVICE_ADDRESS in
CONFIG DATADVH.
I found the following in DIRMAINT's Tailoring and Administration Guide
(SC24-6135), chapter 3.13 (this is how it treats USER INPUT file. Read Note
1):

---
Comments in a non-System Affinity source directory (a directory that does
not use the SYSAFFIN keyword in its internal form) must follow the directory
statement to which they apply. DirMaint will re-order the sequence in which
directory statements are placed, keeping comments associated with the
previous real statement. For example, given the following directory segment:
MDISK 0197 3380 DEVNO 00AF .
* This comment is associated with the MDISK 0197 statement.
* So is this comment.
MDISK 0191 3380 DEVNO 00AA .
* This comment is associated with the MDISK 0191 statement.
* So is THIS comment.
After the directory is manipulated and sorted by address (a selectable
option) the same directory segment will appear as follows:
MDISK 0191 3380 DEVNO 00AA .
* This comment is associated with the MDISK 0191 statement.
* So is THIS comment.
MDISK 0197 3380 DEVNO 00AF .
* This comment is associated with the MDISK 0197 statement.
* So is this comment.

  Notes:

1. When DirMaint removes any directory statement, the comments that follow
that statement are not removed. This may be of particular interest when
processing a CMDISK command, as the MDISK is transferred to the DATAMOVE
machine (removing it from the user's directory) and then transferred back to
the user (but not associating it with any set of comments).
2. Blank lines are treated as comments and follow all the same rules.


Ivica Brodaric

On 16/02/2008, Horlick, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok, will do.

 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Alan Altmark
 Sent: February 15, 2008 10:29 AM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: How comments treated by DIRMAINT

 On Friday, 02/15/2008 at 10:10 EST, Horlick, Michael
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  The line ?LINK QALPCS 0500 0500 MW? has been shuffled after the
 comment
 line
  ?*  360 - ZYZMGH (Master Catalog, Power, Hardcopy,Recorder,etc...)?
 
  So what?s the secret here?

 I would suggest opening a PMR and getting people In The Know to help
 you.

 Alan Altmark
 z/VM Development
 IBM Endicott



Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-15 Thread Jim Elliott
 ...  Besides my only complaint concerning the road show
 discussions that came up earlier is that NYC wasn't selected as
 a host city for one of the events. ...

Actually there is an event in NYC on 2/26, but it by invitation
only.

There is a webcast on 2/26 for which a separate invite was sent
out. Go to http://www.on24.com/clients/ibm/102818 to register.

Jim