Re: Using REXX/VM

2008-12-24 Thread Alan Ackerman
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:56:40 -0600, Wilson, Roger roger.wil...@milwaukee
.gov wrote:

I'm beginning to find this out.

I guess I'm trying to figure out the curve and Pipes on the fly


That's the trouble with reading manuals. You get the rules, but not the h
ow  why. You miss the 
folklore. In this case, CHARIN/CHAROUT/LINEIN/LINEOUT are documented, but
 IBM does not warn 
you not to use them.

There is much useful folklore scattered through the pages of the this lis
t (and VMSHARE). But who 
has time to read them?

P.S. Folklore is not necessarily false. (Nor are old wives tales.) 

It is passed along informally. Originally mouth to mouth (odd expression,
 that!). I think informal 
transmission by email or mailing list still counts as folklore. (Blogs al
so? Wikipedia?) Once it gets 
written into a manual, or a FAQ, then I don't think it is folklore.

Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com 


Re: Using REXX/VM

2008-12-24 Thread Dave Jones

How I learned Pipes.

1) started with some very small, linear, one function simple pipes
2) studied other folk's pipelines. This is where the old VMSHARE list really 
came in handy.
3) read Melinda's excellent tutorial papers of Pipelines; they are now found 
(and still
very valid) on the CMS Pipeline home page on the web:

 http://vm.marist.edu/~pipeline/

At the moment, I can't reach that web site...this may be due to the very bad weather the 
USA Northeast has been experiencing the last few days.


DJ
Alan Ackerman wrote:

On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:56:40 -0600, Wilson, Roger roger.wil...@milwaukee.gov 
wrote:


I'm beginning to find this out.

I guess I'm trying to figure out the curve and Pipes on the fly



That's the trouble with reading manuals. You get the rules, but not the how  
why. You
miss the folklore. In this case, CHARIN/CHAROUT/LINEIN/LINEOUT are documented, 
but IBM
does not warn you not to use them.

There is much useful folklore scattered through the pages of the this list (and
VMSHARE). But who has time to read them?

P.S. Folklore is not necessarily false. (Nor are old wives tales.)

It is passed along informally. Originally mouth to mouth (odd expression, 
that!). I
think informal transmission by email or mailing list still counts as folklore. 
(Blogs
also? Wikipedia?) Once it gets written into a manual, or a FAQ, then I don't 
think it
is folklore.

Alan Ackerman Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com


--
DJ

V/Soft
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  consulting, and software development
www.vsoft-software.com


Re: z/VM V5R4.0 Information Center - December 2008 edition

2008-12-24 Thread Alan Ackerman
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:03:07 -0500, Michael Forte mjfo...@us.ibm.com wr
ote:

Good morning, afternoon, or evening:

The z/VM V5R4.0 Information Center on the Internet has been updated to
include the latest product documentation for the recent release of z/VM
V5R4.0 service and feature enhancements. The z/VM V5R4.0 Information
Center (December 2008 edition) is available on an IBM Web site:
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zvm/v5r4/index.jsp. If you have
 a
comment or if you experience any problems using the information center,
please use the Contact z/VM link at the top or bottom of the page in
question.

If you have forgotten what an information is, read on.

z/VM V5R4.0 Information Center - December 2008

IBM publishes the z/VM documentation in an information center using the
IBM Eclipse Help System framework. Publishing in an information center i
s
in addition to z/VM product documentation published in BookManager and P
DF
format and available through the z/VM Collection and z/VM Internet
Library. The content of the z/VM V5R4.0 Information Center (information
for the z/VM base and optional features) is identical to that in the
traditional BookManager and PDF formats; however, the presentation might

differ to some degree.

Information centers provide a new mechanism for delivering product
documentation. Advantages of information centers are:

  -- Content is indexed by Google and other internet search engines to
help locate information more easily.

  -- Custom searches can be created that include only the information yo
u
need for a particular task or job role.

Thank you,
Michael J. Forte
z/VM ID and POK Softcopy Support
Software Engineer, System z Information Solutions 58HA
IBM Poughkeepsie, New York
mjfo...@us.ibm.com

Office: 845-435-9062, T/L: 295-9062
Fax: 845-432-9405

P181, 2455 South Road, Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
Building 052, B09

Often those who work the hardest are the luckiest...

I have tried to use these, and found them very frustrating. I stick BookM
anager and PDFs, not 
because they are better but because I know how to use them. Not being a J
ava programmer, I have 
no experience with Eclipse. Is there a good tutorial on Information Cente
r? The On Mon, 15 Dec 
2008 17:03:07 -0500, Michael Forte mjfo...@us.ibm.com wrote:

Good morning, afternoon, or evening:

The z/VM V5R4.0 Information Center on the Internet has been updated to
include the latest product documentation for the recent release of z/VM
V5R4.0 service and feature enhancements. The z/VM V5R4.0 Information
Center (December 2008 edition) is available on an IBM Web site:
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zvm/v5r4/index.jsp. If you have
 a
comment or if you experience any problems using the information center,
please use the Contact z/VM link at the top or bottom of the page in
question.

If you have forgotten what an information is, read on.

z/VM V5R4.0 Information Center - December 2008

IBM publishes the z/VM documentation in an information center using the
IBM Eclipse Help System framework. Publishing in an information center i
s
in addition to z/VM product documentation published in BookManager and P
DF
format and available through the z/VM Collection and z/VM Internet
Library. The content of the z/VM V5R4.0 Information Center (information
for the z/VM base and optional features) is identical to that in the
traditional BookManager and PDF formats; however, the presentation might

differ to some degree.

Information centers provide a new mechanism for delivering product
documentation. Advantages of information centers are:

  -- Content is indexed by Google and other internet search engines to
help locate information more easily.

  -- Custom searches can be created that include only the information yo
u
need for a particular task or job role.

Thank you,
Michael J. Forte
z/VM ID and POK Softcopy Support
Software Engineer, System z Information Solutions 58HA
IBM Poughkeepsie, New York
mjfo...@us.ibm.com

Office: 845-435-9062, T/L: 295-9062
Fax: 845-432-9405

P181, 2455 South Road, Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
Building 052, B09

Often those who work the hardest are the luckiest...

I have tried to use these, and found them very frustrating. I stick with 
BookManager and PDFs, not 
because they are better but because I know how to use them. Not being a J
ava programmer, I have 
no experience with Eclipse. Is there a good tutorial on Information Cente
r? The Help for the 
information center is amazingly unhelpful. It starts with keyboard short
cuts. Shouldn't it start 
with as description of the page layout and how to use it?

Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com 


Re: z/VM V5R4.0 Information Center - December 2008 edition

2008-12-24 Thread Alan Ackerman
Sorry for the mess of that last append. I have no idea how I did that! 


Here is all I meant to say:

I have tried to use these, and found them very frustrating. I stick with 
BookManager and PDFs, not 
because they are better but because I know how to use them. Not being a J
ava programmer, I have 
no experience with Eclipse. Is there a good tutorial on Information Cente
r? The Help for the 
information center is amazingly unhelpful. It starts with keyboard short
cuts. Shouldn't it start 
with as description of the page layout and how to use it?

Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com 


Re: z/VM V5R4.0 Information Center - December 2008 edition

2008-12-24 Thread Jack Woehr

Alan Ackerman wrote:


I have tried to use these, and found them very frustrating.
?? Weird. Table of contents on left. Search engine above it. View panel 
on right.
Almost every reference site in creation works that way, though not all 
use Frames

to do it.

My big annoyance is that every time you make a left side selection, the page
redraws three (3) times before it settles down.

--
Jack J. Woehr# Fate lessons of the past and present
http://www.well.com/~jax # were now in session.
http://www.softwoehr.com #  - Steven Wright, _The Beach_


VM/REXX question on index to an array

2008-12-24 Thread Roland P. Chung
Hello Lists, wish you all have a very Merry Christmas and a very Happy New 
Year!!!
 
May be it has been documented somewhere in a VM/REXX manual, but I am on the 
road. Let me see who can point clearify this in between turkey dinner and 
singing Christmas carols.
 
The EXEC 
 
.
  snipped   
...  
 
 TOT = INCARD.0    
 SAY 'PROCESS 'TOT' LINE FROM INPUT FILE: 'IFN IFT IFM'.'  
   
 J = 0 /* NUMBER OF OUTPUT DATA ROWS    
*/    
 indx = 0 /* index to INCARD.  
*/    
 OLD_DATE = '' /* DATE HOLDING WORKAREA  */    
 PARTN    = 'NN'   /* partition ID   */    
 DO Indx=1 BY 1 While Indx = TOT  
   
   If indx   99980 Then do; say indx incard.indx; end;   
   
    /* LOOK FOR STARTING OF A COUNTER * SET  */    
    /* Counter values AT  DATE='06-27-06'  TIME='17:31:36'   */    
    CHK = SUBSTR(INCARD.Indx,17,7) 
    IF CHK = 'COUNTER' Then    
   DO  
   CHK = SUBSTR(INCARD.Indx,25,6)    /* look for the next string */ 
   
  IF CHK = 'VALUES' THEN   
. snipped ...
 
and it went into a loop after the Indx is over 9:
.
6   70303 F3 0003 IST878I NUMBER OF QUEUED  SESSIONS =  5   
   22:30:02 12/23/2008  
7   70304 F3 0003 IST878I NUMBER OF TOTAL   SESSIONS =    125   
   22:30:02 12/23/2008  
8   70305 F3 0003 IST924I 
-    22:30:02 
12/23/2008  
9   70306 F3 0003 IST1161I SSCP SESSIONS  22:30:02 
12/23/2008  
1.E+5 INCARD.1.E+5  
1.E+5 INCARD.1.E+5  
1.E+5 INCARD.1.E+5  
1.E+5 INCARD.1.E+5  
1.E+5 INCARD.1.E+5   
  snipped  .
 
Is there a numeric datatype of numeric has a maximum value of 9 when using 
it in as an index into an array?
 
I have to break the file down into seveal files each on is smaller than 8 
records. (yes, 9 will loop too.)
 
Any help is appreciated. TIA
 
...Roland
 

Re: z/VM V5R4.0 Information Center - December 2008 edition

2008-12-24 Thread Rick Troth
Looks nice.  Thanks for the reference and the heads up.
I must confess that I have been holding onto the bookshelf
because of the much quicker interaction and navigation of simple HTML.
But this appears to be a great improvement over other Info Centers.


Eclipse ... isn't that where things get dark because there's
something in the way and the usual illumination is blocked?   :-)


-- R;