What speed are my channels actually running at?
Hi all, I've just been making a Visio diagram of out I/O config on some old hardware (z800), which runs two z/OS guests under VM (5.4) I dicovered that, although the VM IOCP has channels to my DASD system as FC (FICON) the z/OS IOCP has them defined as CNC (ESCON). So what speed am I going to get on a z/OS I/O, ESCON or FICON? I'm assuming VM does something clever, like ignore what z/OS says? TIA
Re: What speed are my channels actually running at?
What's important is what is in the active IOCDS on your z800. Assuming that your z/OS guests do not have permissions to update the real IOCDS then it doesn't matter to you what is in their z/OS HCD config (all they'll really care about is that it agrees with what's in their virtual machine definition). Brian Nielsen On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 08:47:05 -0500, Vince Getgood vincent.getg...@xchanging.com wrote: Hi all, I've just been making a Visio diagram of out I/O config on some old hardware (z800), which runs two z/OS guests under VM (5.4) I dicovered that, although the VM IOCP has channels to my DASD system as FC (FICON) the z/OS IOCP has them defined as CNC (ESCON). So what speed am I going to get on a z/OS I/O, ESCON or FICON? I'm assuming VM does something clever, like ignore what z/OS says? TIA
CP Query wildcards
Why won't my wildcard work? q dasd l53701 DASD C018 CP SYSTEM L53701 1 DASD C0CE CP SYSTEM L53701 1 DASD C0CF CP SYSTEM L53701 1 CP q dasd l53* DASD L53* was not found. Thanks David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: My presentation
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Re: CP Query wildcards
Because the command syntax requires a DASD pack name. I once wrote an EXEC to perform what you are attempting to do. David Wakser From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Dean, David (I/S) Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:59 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: CP Query wildcards Why won't my wildcard work? q dasd l53701 DASD C018 CP SYSTEM L53701 1 DASD C0CE CP SYSTEM L53701 1 DASD C0CF CP SYSTEM L53701 1 CP q dasd l53* DASD L53* was not found. Thanks David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm Confidentiality Note: This e-mail, including any attachment to it, may contain material that is confidential, proprietary, privileged and/or Protected Health Information, within the meaning of the regulations under the Health Insurance Portability Accountability Act as amended. If it is not clear that you are the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, including any attachment to it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately return it to the sender and delete it from your system. Thank you.
Re: My presentation
Hi list, I wrote: Bill, Here is my presentation: Whoops sorry. This was not supposed to go to the list of course, it was supposed to go to Bill Munson. (Bill, you can get it here :)) Mike MacIsaac mike...@us.ibm.com (845) 433-7061
Re: CP Query wildcards
Can I have it? David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Wakser, David Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:14 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: CP Query wildcards Because the command syntax requires a DASD pack name. I once wrote an EXEC to perform what you are attempting to do. David Wakser From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Dean, David (I/S) Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:59 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: CP Query wildcards Why won't my wildcard work? q dasd l53701 DASD C018 CP SYSTEM L53701 1 DASD C0CE CP SYSTEM L53701 1 DASD C0CF CP SYSTEM L53701 1 CP q dasd l53* DASD L53* was not found. Thanks David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm Confidentiality Note: This e-mail, including any attachment to it, may contain material that is confidential, proprietary, privileged and/or Protected Health Information, within the meaning of the regulations under the Health Insurance Portability Accountability Act as amended. If it is not clear that you are the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, including any attachment to it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately return it to the sender and delete it from your system. Thank you. - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: CP Query wildcards
Because the wildcard isn't accepted there. Maybe a quick PIPE: PIPE CP Q DASD ALL | split , | locate /L53/ | console Unless you are only concerned with DASD attached to the system, then you don't need the split or the ALL on the Q DASD. Bob Bates Enterprise Hosting Services w. (469)892-6660 c. (214) 907-5071 This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Dean, David (I/S) Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 10:59 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: CP Query wildcards Why won't my wildcard work? q dasd l53701 DASD C018 CP SYSTEM L53701 1 DASD C0CE CP SYSTEM L53701 1 DASD C0CF CP SYSTEM L53701 1 CP q dasd l53* DASD L53* was not found. Thanks David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: CP Query wildcards
You're assuming that I have kept it for the past 15 years! I will look around, but I don't believe I still have it. But I recall I used PIPEs to choose whose entries I wanted to display. Let's see if someone else comes up with something. If not, maybe I can rewrite it. David Wakser From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Dean, David (I/S) Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:39 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: CP Query wildcards Can I have it? David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Wakser, David Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:14 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: CP Query wildcards Because the command syntax requires a DASD pack name. I once wrote an EXEC to perform what you are attempting to do. David Wakser From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Dean, David (I/S) Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:59 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: CP Query wildcards Why won't my wildcard work? q dasd l53701 DASD C018 CP SYSTEM L53701 1 DASD C0CE CP SYSTEM L53701 1 DASD C0CF CP SYSTEM L53701 1 CP q dasd l53* DASD L53* was not found. Thanks David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm Confidentiality Note: This e-mail, including any attachment to it, may contain material that is confidential, proprietary, privileged and/or Protected Health Information, within the meaning of the regulations under the Health Insurance Portability Accountability Act as amended. If it is not clear that you are the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, including any attachment to it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately return it to the sender and delete it from your system. Thank you. - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm Confidentiality Note: This e-mail, including any attachment to it, may contain material that is confidential, proprietary, privileged and/or Protected Health Information, within the meaning of the regulations under the Health Insurance Portability Accountability Act as amended. If it is not clear that you are the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, including any attachment to it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately return it to the sender and delete it from your system. Thank you.
Re: CP Query wildcards
Here is part of some code I wrote to query DASD by VOLSER. Part of the code ask if you want to sort the output by VOLSER. If SORTYN = 'Y' then do 'pipe cp query dasd', '| locate /'VOLSER'/', '| sort 21.6 ascending', '| pad 35', '| chop 35', '| stem DASDX1.' end else do 'pipe cp query dasd', '| locate /'VOLSER'/', '| pad 35', '| chop 35', '| stem DASDX1.' end Paul Feller AIT Mainframe Technical Support From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Dean, David (I/S) Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 10:59 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: CP Query wildcards Why won't my wildcard work? q dasd l53701 DASD C018 CP SYSTEM L53701 1 DASD C0CE CP SYSTEM L53701 1 DASD C0CF CP SYSTEM L53701 1 CP q dasd l53* DASD L53* was not found. Thanks David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Updated paper available - Sharing and maintaining SLES 10 SP2 Linux under z/VM
Hello everyone, I am please to announce an updated paper Sharing and maintaining SLES 10 SP2 Linux under z/VM, and an associated tar file with scripts and configuration files. The paper is available on the Web at: http://linuxvm.org/present/misc/ro-root-S10.pdf The tar file is available at: http://linuxvm.org/present/misc/ro-root-S10.tgz The other authors are Steve Womer, Rick Troth and Kyle Black. This is an update to the IBM Redpaper published in 2/08 with a similar title. The updates in this paper are as follow: -) Based on z/VM 5.4 (previously 5.3) -) Based on SLES 10 SP2 (previously SLES 10) -) Linux scripts and z/VM REXX EXECs added/updated -) Linux script to create read-only system now named mnt2rogld.sh -) Disk space of each Linux system increased -) /var/lib/rpm/ is bind-mounted read-only over read-write /var/ file system -) More detailed section on maintaining Linux There is a counterpart paper based on RHEL coming in hopefully about a month. Watch this space. Thanks to many people who made this possible - just to name a few: Brian France, Dom Depasquale, Carlos Ordonez, Brad Hinson, Mark Post, David Boyes, Ernie Horn, Steve Shultz and Hongjie Yang. We had hoped to also add a section on DCSSs and NSSs but ran out of time. Maybe it can still be added. Enjoy! Feedback is welcome. Mike MacIsaac mike...@us.ibm.com (845) 433-7061
Re: What speed are my channels actually running at?
On Wednesday, 07/01/2009 at 09:48 EDT, Vince Getgood vincent.getg...@xchanging.com wrote: I've just been making a Visio diagram of out I/O config on some old hardware (z800), which runs two z/OS guests under VM (5.4) I dicovered that, although the VM IOCP has channels to my DASD system as FC (FICON) the z/OS IOCP has them defined as CNC (ESCON). So what speed am I going to get on a z/OS I/O, ESCON or FICON? I'm assuming VM does something clever, like ignore what z/OS says? FICON, since CP doesn't care what the guest thinks about the subchannel, and all FICON/ESCON-style I/O is virtual. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
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Re: CP Query wildcards
By the way ... Unix cheats. The shell expands all wildcards, which I have always said is a mistake because it presumes on the context. The shell can only expand wildcards that are filenames. Not everything you might want to wildcard is a file. Wouldn't it be nice if you could 'ifconfig eth*'? It's just an observation, not a rant against Unix. Actually, I LIKE Unix and wish we all made more use of OpenVM. So ... to make 'q dasd' work the way David expresses, that function would need to call some kind of globbing subfunction. Same thing for 'ifconfig' in Linux and Unix. We need normalized namespace globbing, something which can be used by commands which don't necessarily do files, commands which are part of non-Unix stuff (like the CP Nuc). This stuff has been implemented in C time and again. Too bad CP doesn't have a C runtime instantiated. Oh ... wait ... It does! :-) And now back to your regularly scheduled list traffic. -- R; On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 11:58, Dean, David (I/S)david_d...@bcbst.com wrote: Why won’t my wildcard work? q dasd l53701 DASD C018 CP SYSTEM L53701 1 DASD C0CE CP SYSTEM L53701 1 DASD C0CF CP SYSTEM L53701 1 CP q dasd l53* DASD L53* was not found. Thanks David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: CP Query wildcards
The VOLUME operand doesn't support wildcards. Jim Hughes 603-271-5586 It is fun to do the impossible. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Dean, David (I/S) Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:59 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: CP Query wildcards Why won't my wildcard work? q dasd l53701 DASD C018 CP SYSTEM L53701 1 DASD C0CE CP SYSTEM L53701 1 DASD C0CF CP SYSTEM L53701 1 CP q dasd l53* DASD L53* was not found. Thanks David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Network Problem?
At 9:57 local time, I sent a reply to something on the list. I just received, at 13:50, a notice that said Delivery delayed for the note. Is anybody else getting this kind of response? Assuming that this note reaches its destination, which may be a bad assumption. Regards, Richard Schuh
Re: CP Query wildcards
I sent an offline reply to David with the following, but it seems the
needs may be wider. It has the pre-req of the CMS Pipelines Runtime
Library (Pipes RTL, available at: http://vm.marist.edu/~pipeline/
Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates
Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily
represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.
/* Prolog; See Epilog for additional information
* Exec Name - QDASDEXEC*
* Unit Support - Information Systems *
* Status- Version 2, Release 1.0 *
/
address 'COMMAND'
parse source xos xct xfn xft xfm xcmd xenvir .
parse upper arg parms 1 operands '(' options ')' parmrest
parse upper arg operands '(' options ')' .
If operands='?' then Signal Explain
parse var operands op1 .
If op1='' then operands='*' /* Default to 'all' volumes */
?file=wordpos('FILE',options)0
?path=wordpos('PATH',options)0 | ,
wordpos('PATHS',options)0
?count= wordpos('COUNT',options)0
?offline= wordpos('OFFLINE',options)0
cmd='CP QUERY DASD ALL'
If length(op1)1 op1'*' then
'PIPE (END ? NAME QDASD1)' ,
'|' cmd ,
'| SPLIT AT /,/' ,
'| STRIP BOTH' ,
'| nm: WILDCARD ANYCASE 21.6 /'op1'/' , /*Volser pattern*/
'| fany: FANINANY' ,
'| STEM dasd.' ,
'? nm:' ,
'| NLOCATE 11.6 / /' , /* DASD 0Cuu CP SYSTEM */
'| WILDCARD ANYCASE 11.6 /'op1'/' , /* DASD ccuu volser*/
'| fany:'
Else
'PIPE (NAME QDASD2)' ,
'|' cmd ,
'| SPLIT AT /,/' ,
'| STEM dasd.'
If rc0 then say xfn';' cmd', rc='rc
BuildALLstem: /* All DASD, one address per stem entry */
ax=0
?rtnoffline=0/* Return to offline state? */
Do dx=1 to dasd.0
parse var dasd.dx begin ',' remains 0 dev rdev w3 .
If w3='OFFLINE' ?offline , /* Include offline DASD, too */
\?rtnoffline then /* Don't VARY ON or loop again */
Do /* Bring online long enough to report on it */
?rtnoffline=1
'PIPE CP VARY ON' rdev
Call WaitForOnline 10
'PIPE CP QUERY' rdev ,
'| VAR updt'
dasd.dx=updt
dx=dx-1/* Back up to retry this rdev */
Iterate dx /* And do so... */
End
If wordpos(w3,'OFFLINE FREE CP')=0 then
begin = dev rdev '^ mounted' w3||' .'
'PIPE (NAME GetRdevCyls)' ,
'| CP QUERY DASD DETAILS' rdev ,
'| TAKE 1' ,
'| SPECS WORD -1;-1 1' , /* Cyls = last word */
'| VAR rdevcyls'
begin=left(strip(begin,'B'),35) right(strip(rdevcyls,'B'),6)
ax=ax+1
If ?path then
Do
'PIPE CP QUERY PATHS' rdev ,
'| DROP LAST 1' ,
'| TAKE LAST 1' ,
'| SPECS 30-* 1' , /* Keep online/offline */
'| VAR status'
begin = left(strip(begin),50) status
End
Else begin=strip(begin,l)
all.ax=begin
If remains='' then
Do
If ?rtnoffline then
Do
'PIPE CP VARY OFF' rdev
?rtnoffline=0
End
Iterate
End
Do until remains=''
parse var remains begin ',' remains 0 dev rdev w3 ',' .
If wordpos(w3,'OFFLINE FREE CP')=0 then
begin = dev rdev '^ mounted' w3
ax=ax+1
If ?path then
Do
'PIPE CP QUERY PATHS' rdev ,
'| DROP LAST 1' ,
'| TAKE LAST 1' ,
'| SPECS 30-* 1' , /* Keep online/offline */
'| VAR status'
begin = left(strip(begin),41) status
End
Else begin=strip(begin,l)
all.ax=begin
End
If ?rtnoffline then
Do
'PIPE CP VARY OFF' rdev
?rtnoffline=0
End
End dx
all.0=ax
PotentialSort:
If find(options,'SORT')0 | find(options,'BYVOLSER')0 then
'PIPE STEM all.' ,
'| SORT 21.6 A' ,
'| STEM all.'
Else
'PIPE STEM all.' ,
'| REXX HEXSORT W2' ,
'| STEM all.'
ProcessStem:
If ?file then
'PIPE STEM all.' ,
'| APPEND STRLITERAL /* /' ,
'| APPEND STRLITERAL /* Prepared' date('S') 'at' time() ,
'by command:' xfn parms'/' ,
'| QDASD FILE A'
Else
Do
'PIPE STEM all. | CONSOLE'
If ?count then say 'Total matching volumes:' all.0
End
Call Exit 0
/* *** */
/* *** S U B R O U T I N E S * */
Re: CP Query wildcards
On Jul 1, 2009, at 2:33 PM, Richard Troth wrote: By the way ... Unix cheats. The shell expands all wildcards, which I have always said is a mistake because it presumes on the context. The shell can only expand wildcards that are filenames. Not everything you might want to wildcard is a file. Wouldn't it be nice if you could 'ifconfig eth*'? Wouldn't it be nice if Unix worked like Unix was supposed to work, and everything *WERE* a file? Yeah, yeah, I know, Plan 9 is right over there if I want it. Adam
Re: Network Problem?
No, no such problems here. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 4:55 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Network Problem? At 9:57 local time, I sent a reply to something on the list. I just received, at 13:50, a notice that said Delivery delayed for the note. Is anybody else getting this kind of response? Assuming that this note reaches its destination, which may be a bad assumption. Regards, Richard Schuh Confidentiality Note: This e-mail, including any attachment to it, may contain material that is confidential, proprietary, privileged and/or Protected Health Information, within the meaning of the regulations under the Health Insurance Portability Accountability Act as amended. If it is not clear that you are the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, including any attachment to it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately return it to the sender and delete it from your system. Thank you.
Re: CP Query wildcards
Try this QDASD EXEC: /* Query DASD by pattern */ arg dasd_info 'PIPE (ENDCHAR ?)', 'cp q dasd all', ' | SPLIT STR /, /', ' | l: LOCATE W3 /CP/', ' | SPECS W2 1 W5 NW / / N', ' | f: FANINANY', ' | LOCATE /'dasd_info'/', ' | qdasd output a', '?', 'l:', ' | SPECS W2 1 W3 NW / / N', ' | f:' 'X qdasd output a' Here are some sample calls, surrounded by quotes so extra blanks are obvious: 'QDASD RES ' -- will show volids that end in RES 'QDASD VM' -- will show volids that begin with VM 'QDASD PG'-- will show volids containing PG 'QDASD 54'-- will show volids or addresses containing 54 'QDASD FF'-- same as above for FF, but also shows OFFLIN E Brian Nielsen On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 12:39:05 -0400, Dean, David (I/S) david_d...@bcbst.com wrote: Can I have it? David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Wakser, David Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:14 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: CP Query wildcards Because the command syntax requires a DASD pack name. I once wrote an EXEC to perform what you are attempting to do. David Wakser From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Dean, David (I/S) Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:59 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: CP Query wildcards Why won't my wildcard work? q dasd l53701 DASD C018 CP SYSTEM L53701 1 DASD C0CE CP SYSTEM L53701 1 DASD C0CF CP SYSTEM L53701 1 CP q dasd l53* DASD L53* was not found. Thanks David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* -
Re: CP Query wildcards
What about devices attached to users? Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Brian Nielsen Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:42 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: CP Query wildcards Try this QDASD EXEC: /* Query DASD by pattern */ arg dasd_info 'PIPE (ENDCHAR ?)', 'cp q dasd all', ' | SPLIT STR /, /', ' | l: LOCATE W3 /CP/', ' | SPECS W2 1 W5 NW / / N', ' | f: FANINANY', ' | LOCATE /'dasd_info'/', ' | qdasd output a', '?', 'l:', ' | SPECS W2 1 W3 NW / / N', ' | f:' 'X qdasd output a' Here are some sample calls, surrounded by quotes so extra blanks are obvious: 'QDASD RES ' -- will show volids that end in RES 'QDASD VM' -- will show volids that begin with VM 'QDASD PG'-- will show volids containing PG 'QDASD 54'-- will show volids or addresses containing 54= 'QDASD FF'-- same as above for FF, but also shows OFFLIN= E Brian Nielsen On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 12:39:05 -0400, Dean, David (I/S) david_d...@bcbst.com wrote: Can I have it? David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Wakser, David Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:14 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: CP Query wildcards Because the command syntax requires a DASD pack name. I once wrote an EXEC to perform what you are attempting to do. David Wakser From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Dean, David (I/S) Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:59 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: CP Query wildcards Why won't my wildcard work? q dasd l53701 DASD C018 CP SYSTEM L53701 1 DASD C0CE CP SYSTEM L53701 1 DASD C0CF CP SYSTEM L53701 1 CP q dasd l53* DASD L53* was not found. Thanks David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* -
Re: CP Query wildcards
or PIPE cp q dasd | zone w5 wildcard /VMA*/ | cons;-)
Re: CP Query wildcards
Wow, thanks to all for the help!! David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Richard Troth Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:33 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: CP Query wildcards By the way ... Unix cheats. The shell expands all wildcards, which I have always said is a mistake because it presumes on the context. The shell can only expand wildcards that are filenames. Not everything you might want to wildcard is a file. Wouldn't it be nice if you could 'ifconfig eth*'? It's just an observation, not a rant against Unix. Actually, I LIKE Unix and wish we all made more use of OpenVM. So ... to make 'q dasd' work the way David expresses, that function would need to call some kind of globbing subfunction. Same thing for 'ifconfig' in Linux and Unix. We need normalized namespace globbing, something which can be used by commands which don't necessarily do files, commands which are part of non-Unix stuff (like the CP Nuc). This stuff has been implemented in C time and again. Too bad CP doesn't have a C runtime instantiated. Oh ... wait ... It does! :-) And now back to your regularly scheduled list traffic. -- R; On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 11:58, Dean, David (I/S)david_d...@bcbst.com wrote: Why won't my wildcard work? q dasd l53701 DASD C018 CP SYSTEM L53701 1 DASD C0CE CP SYSTEM L53701 1 DASD C0CF CP SYSTEM L53701 1 CP q dasd l53* DASD L53* was not found. Thanks David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: Network Problem?
Schuh, Richard wrote: At 9:57 local time, I sent a reply to something on the list. I just received, at 13:50, a notice that said Delivery delayed for the note. Is anybody else getting this kind of response? Assuming that this note reaches its destination, which may be a bad assumption. Regards, Richard Schuh I noticed some messages arriving out of order today. Replies that came before the message they replied to. The list must be in some kind of a time warp today. -- Stephen Frazier Information Technology Unit Oklahoma Department of Corrections 3400 Martin Luther King Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298 Tel.: (405) 425-2549 Fax: (405) 425-2554 Pager: (405) 690-1828 email: stevef%doc.state.ok.us
Re: Network Problem?
A time warp it might be. The fact that it took nearly 4 hours to get a message saying that delivery of a message was delayed seems sort of ironic. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Stephen Frazier Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:02 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Network Problem? Schuh, Richard wrote: At 9:57 local time, I sent a reply to something on the list. I just received, at 13:50, a notice that said Delivery delayed for the note. Is anybody else getting this kind of response? Assuming that this note reaches its destination, which may be a bad assumption. Regards, Richard Schuh I noticed some messages arriving out of order today. Replies that came before the message they replied to. The list must be in some kind of a time warp today. -- Stephen Frazier Information Technology Unit Oklahoma Department of Corrections 3400 Martin Luther King Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298 Tel.: (405) 425-2549 Fax: (405) 425-2554 Pager: (405) 690-1828 email: stevef%doc.state.ok.us
Re: CP Query wildcards
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adam Thornton wrote: Wouldn't it be nice if Unix worked like Unix was supposed to work, and everything *WERE* a file? Well, for what it's worth, and by fits and starts and with no real plan, Linux is actually working it's way slowly in that general direction. A few examples which I couldn't do 10 years ago: $ ls /sys/class/net/ eth0 eth1 lo sit0 $ ls /sys/module/ autofs4 dm_zero ip6t_REJECT md_mod pci_hotplug psmouse usbhid (...snippage...) And then there's the interesting stuff one can do with FUSE (http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/fuse/index.php?title=FileSystems), like like the database filesystems (http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/fuse/index.php?title=DatabaseFileSystems), httpfs (http://httpfs.sourceforge.net/) or bloggerfs (http://mundau.blogspot.com/2006/12/bloggerfs-last-night-i-was-playing.html) . I can only hope the trend continues. I'd much prefer that some overall plan or thought was given toward this, though. - -- Pat -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkpL+QYACgkQNObCqA8uBsxiegCdEDj2T/uoVq7kPVSytN1tnxAl KpcAn0MAW3gFvbqbw63oOIeKbdKG9jKw =wuHg -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Network Problem?
Just received a similar notice here, on a reply to a different mailing list. Also hosted at UARK.EDU. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]on Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:55 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Network Problem? At 9:57 local time, I sent a reply to something on the list. I just received, at 13:50, a notice that said Delivery delayed for the note. Is anybody else getting this kind of response? Assuming that this note reaches its destination, which may be a bad assumption. Regards, Richard Schuh
Re: CP Query wildcards
David: OK, here it is; it's not pretty (I wrote the code as one of my first PIPES experiments many years ago), but it does exactly what you want it to do. The syntax is: QDA DA * where is from 1 to 6 characters of the volumes you are looking for (generic) followed by a *. The reason that I used files instead of stems is because, way back then, many users didn't have enough CMS storage to handle large stems in Rexx. Try it out, do with it what you desire, and enjoy. BTW, make certain the vertical bars the logical not sign translate correctly when you cut paste. David Wakser /* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */ /* */ /* This EXEC was designed to replace the normal QUERY */ /* NAMES function to suppress the display of the VM*/ /* MAGIC dummy entries shown. It looks for ¢ as the */ /* first character and suppresses the display of that */ /* name; all other invocations of the QUERY command are*/ /* passed right on to CP/CMS. */ /* */ /*DMW 08/03/94 */ /* */ /* Modified May 3, 1998 to process a generic Q DA*/ /* command. Format QDA DA SYS* */ /* will show all DASD beginning */ /* with SYS - even if FREE*/ /*DMW 08/03/94 */ /* */ /* Modified July 1 2009 to process DASD names more proper- */ /* ly and to remove the Q NAMES part */ /* since is was only valuable */ /* when VM Magic was used.dmw */ /* */ /* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */ a1 = a2 = a3 = a4 = a5 = a6 = a7 = a8 = a9 = a10 = a11 = arg a1 a2 a3 a4 a5 a6 a7 a8 a9 a10 a11 . if a1 ¬= DA then do QUERY a1 a2 a3 a4 a5 a6 a7 a8 a9 a10 a11 exit end if a1 = DA then do found = 0 found = pos(*,a2) if found ¬= 0 then signal LIST_DISKS /* Otherwise pass command directly to QUERY */ QUERY a1 a2 a3 a4 a5 a6 a7 a8 a9 a10 a11 exit end LIST_DISKS: pipe CP Q DA, | specs 21.6 1, | AA1 AA1 A disk_packs = translate(a2,' ','*') disk_packs = strip(disk_packs,'B',' ') search_size = length(disk_packs) start_col = if search_size = 1 then start_col = 1 if substr(a2,1,1) ¬= * then start_col = 1- || search_size pipe AA1 AA1 A, | locate || start_col || / || disk_packs || / | specs 1-6 | AA2 AA2 A pipe CP Q DA FREE | AA3 AA3 A pipe AA3 AA3 A, | specs 11.6 1 write 31.6 1 write 51.6 1 write 71.6 1 write | AA4 AA4 A pipe AA4 AA4 A, | locate || start_col || / || disk_packs || /, | AA2 AA2 A ERASE AA1 AA1 A ERASE AA3 AA3 A ERASE AA4 AA4 A pipe AA2 AA2 A | specs 1.6 | stem xx. CLRSCRN if xx.0 = XX.0 | xx.0 = then do say say No DASD with characters disk_packs exists. say exit end say say A total of xx.0 disks will be displayed. say do i = 1 to xx.0 pipe CP Q DA xx.i | CONSOLE end say say A total of xx.0 disks were displayed. say ERASE AA2 AA2 A Exit ** -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Dean, David (I/S) Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 5:07 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: CP Query wildcards Wow, thanks to all for the help!! David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Richard Troth Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:33 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: CP Query wildcards By the way ... Unix cheats. The shell expands all wildcards, which I have always said is a mistake because it presumes on the context. The shell can only expand wildcards that are filenames. Not everything you might want to wildcard is a file. Wouldn't it be nice if you could 'ifconfig eth*'? It's just an observation, not a rant against Unix. Actually, I LIKE Unix and wish we all made more use of OpenVM. So ... to make 'q dasd' work the way David expresses, that function would need to call some kind of globbing subfunction. Same thing for 'ifconfig' in Linux and Unix. We need normalized namespace globbing, something which can be used by commands which don't necessarily do files, commands which are part of non-Unix stuff (like the CP Nuc). This
Re: CP Query wildcards
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 16:09:46 -0500, Adam Thornton athorn...@sinenomine.ne t wrote: On Jul 1, 2009, at 2:33 PM, Richard Troth wrote: By the way ... Unix cheats. The shell expands all wildcards, which I have always said is a mistake because it presumes on the context. The shell can only expand wildcards that are filenames. Not everything you might want to wildcard is a file. Wouldn't it be nice if you could 'ifconfig eth*'? Wouldn't it be nice if Unix worked like Unix was supposed to work, and everything *WERE* a file? Yeah, yeah, I know, Plan 9 is right over there if I want it. Adam = == == I think CP doesn't do wildcards because we didn't ask for it. We didn't a sk for it because we could throw together a QD EXEC to do what we needed, a lot quicker than wa iting for IBM to deliver a new release or two. Many CP commands do allow a range of (hex) device num bers dev1-dev2. I remember Unix globbing having problems if there were too many files tha t met the pattern. Is there a restriction on the length of a command in Posix? Since many people have naming standards for volsers, support for wildcard s on volsers in CP would be useful. Someone want to write a requirement? Alan Ackerman Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
Re: CP Query wildcards
Wouldn't it be nice if you could 'ifconfig eth*'? You can in Plan 9. 8-)
Re: CP Query wildcards
re: CP requirement to accept wildcards for query commands Playing devil's advocate: Since the guest OS (CMS, Linux, whatever) can readily solve the requirement (especially when you guys start talking about shells, etc), why put it on the hypervisor? That's why IBM wrote CMS.. then REXX.. then PIPE .. Playing devil's nemesis: Hmmm... look at USER_VOLUME_INCLUDE in SYSTEM CONFIG. is IBM gonna support wild cards for volume labels or not? Consistency, consistency.. I guess I didn't really help much.. hey - I'm a Gemini - I'm divided by nature.. Scott On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Alan Ackerman alan.acker...@earthlink.netwrote: On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 16:09:46 -0500, Adam Thornton athorn...@sinenomine.net wrote: On Jul 1, 2009, at 2:33 PM, Richard Troth wrote: By the way ... Unix cheats. The shell expands all wildcards, which I have always said is a mistake because it presumes on the context. The shell can only expand wildcards that are filenames. Not everything you might want to wildcard is a file. Wouldn't it be nice if you could 'ifconfig eth*'? Wouldn't it be nice if Unix worked like Unix was supposed to work, and everything *WERE* a file? Yeah, yeah, I know, Plan 9 is right over there if I want it. Adam === == I think CP doesn't do wildcards because we didn't ask for it. We didn't ask for it because we could throw together a QD EXEC to do what we needed, a lot quicker than waiting for IBM to deliver a new release or two. Many CP commands do allow a range of (hex) device numbers dev1-dev2. I remember Unix globbing having problems if there were too many files that met the pattern. Is there a restriction on the length of a command in Posix? Since many people have naming standards for volsers, support for wildcards on volsers in CP would be useful. Someone want to write a requirement? Alan Ackerman Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
