Re: Can you help the Open Object Rexx Project?
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 21:19 +, Chip Davis wrote: > On 6/2/10 20:20 McKown, John said: > >> -Original Message- > >> Chip Davis > >> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 3:14 PM > >> > >> Would anyone with the necessary resources be interested in > >> helping out? > > > > Wish I could help. However, it is quite possible to run z/Linux on > > Hercules/390 on an Intel system (Linux or Windows). I think that many run > > CentOS. Of course, the OORexx people may not have the people to maintain > > yet another Linux environment. > > Perhaps, but I think it might be counter-productive to add an additional > layer > of emulation, even if there was someone who had the time to set it up and > maintain it. > > -Chip- I do agree that it would be a PITA. But perhaps it would be better than nothing at all. I hope OSDL is a possibility. I was not aware of it before. -- John McKown Maranatha! <><
Re: How to determine if a particular fix is applied
Yeah, I've already written a MAPINFO thing which pulls the useful stuff out and then compare can be used to compare it to another systems. It's come in very handy. I thought it would be useful to compare the dates of the modules in the CPLOAD MAP with the dates in the module headers that you can find with "locate hcpxxx" then "cp d htnn.32" but it turns out those dates can be different so that didn't make things easier :( Oh well, Marcy "This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation." -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 2:38 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] How to determine if a particular fix is applied A CP command to provide the info would be great. In the meantime, could you rig a dvm to respond to a query by: 1) confirming that the 'CPLOAD MAP' to which it is given access matches the Q CPLEVEL response: Generated at mm/dd/yy hh/mm/ss tz 2) PIPE through the CPLOAD MAP to find the requested PTFs/APARs, and display them to the requestor? We wrote a CHECKMAP EXEC that compares two "CPLOAD MAP" files, pointing out only the differences. That might be an alternative output to searching for specific PTFs and APARs. Just thinking out loud. Mike Walter Hewitt Associates The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. "Marcy Cortes" Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 06/02/2010 04:00 PM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: How to determine if a particular fix is applied Clever use of HELP. I have a bunch of similar files, but they are HOWTOs. I like the help much better! SERVICE ALL STATUS still won't tell me what I really need to know - is this system running with this PTF. Various things might have happened along the way. Someone forgot PUT2PROD, missed a message about something not going in because of a conflicting local mod, etc. It's not such a big deal with one or 2 systems, but with 9 active and another 7 or so that come up occasionally... And second chances are few and far between... And we continually have PTFs to roll in to prod because of some of the "interesting" stuff we're doing. Looking forward to the future, Marcy "This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation." From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 1:20 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] How to determine if a particular fix is applied Perhaps you could muddle with a disconnected SVM, permitting it to execute the "SERVICE ALL STATUS ..." command and return the results to the requester? Even OPERATOR could issue it so that you sleep better after an sysprog-unattended service IPL. Just a SMOP, right? I often KNOW that there is a particular command that will do JUST what I want, but don't enter it often enough to remember offhand the often arcane syntax (wow: three uses of "often" in ONE sentence - no, that makes it four uses of often, now five...!). Definition: Loop, see: Loop ;-) So for those cases I create simple (very simple) personal sysprog HELP files so that I can enter: HELP ME whatever As example, some that we have include: Filename Filetype HUNGUSER HELPME NETSTAT HELPME SENDFILE HELPME SFS HELPME TAPEINIT HELPME TRACKHELPME VMARCH HELPME VMLINK HELPME VMSESHELPME VMTAPE HELPME VTS HELPME The text in those help files is enough of the syntax to handle my most-frequent usage requirements, and added examples are easy to add as needed. The full help remains available, since IBM and ISV's have never (so far) distributed the filetype "HELPME". If one copies the lines (after the signature lines) between the "--" delimiter as file: VMSES HELPME then entering is will provide an easy answer to this question. And it will serve as an example for other HELPME files you might want to come up with on your own. I like "easy" ... perhaps that's one reason I've been working with VM since 1978 (12 more years to go?). :-) Mike Walter Hewitt Associates
Re: How to determine if a particular fix is applied
A CP command to provide the info would be great. In the meantime, could you rig a dvm to respond to a query by: 1) confirming that the 'CPLOAD MAP' to which it is given access matches the Q CPLEVEL response: Generated at mm/dd/yy hh/mm/ss tz 2) PIPE through the CPLOAD MAP to find the requested PTFs/APARs, and display them to the requestor? We wrote a CHECKMAP EXEC that compares two "CPLOAD MAP" files, pointing out only the differences. That might be an alternative output to searching for specific PTFs and APARs. Just thinking out loud. Mike Walter Hewitt Associates The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. "Marcy Cortes" Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 06/02/2010 04:00 PM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: How to determine if a particular fix is applied Clever use of HELP. I have a bunch of similar files, but they are HOWTOs. I like the help much better! SERVICE ALL STATUS still won't tell me what I really need to know - is this system running with this PTF. Various things might have happened along the way. Someone forgot PUT2PROD, missed a message about something not going in because of a conflicting local mod, etc. It's not such a big deal with one or 2 systems, but with 9 active and another 7 or so that come up occasionally... And second chances are few and far between... And we continually have PTFs to roll in to prod because of some of the "interesting" stuff we're doing. Looking forward to the future, Marcy "This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation." From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 1:20 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] How to determine if a particular fix is applied Perhaps you could muddle with a disconnected SVM, permitting it to execute the "SERVICE ALL STATUS ..." command and return the results to the requester? Even OPERATOR could issue it so that you sleep better after an sysprog-unattended service IPL. Just a SMOP, right? I often KNOW that there is a particular command that will do JUST what I want, but don't enter it often enough to remember offhand the often arcane syntax (wow: three uses of "often" in ONE sentence - no, that makes it four uses of often, now five...!). Definition: Loop, see: Loop ;-) So for those cases I create simple (very simple) personal sysprog HELP files so that I can enter: HELP ME whatever As example, some that we have include: Filename Filetype HUNGUSER HELPME NETSTAT HELPME SENDFILE HELPME SFS HELPME TAPEINIT HELPME TRACKHELPME VMARCH HELPME VMLINK HELPME VMSESHELPME VMTAPE HELPME VTS HELPME The text in those help files is enough of the syntax to handle my most-frequent usage requirements, and added examples are easy to add as needed. The full help remains available, since IBM and ISV's have never (so far) distributed the filetype "HELPME". If one copies the lines (after the signature lines) between the "--" delimiter as file: VMSES HELPME then entering is will provide an easy answer to this question. And it will serve as an example for other HELPME files you might want to come up with on your own. I like "easy" ... perhaps that's one reason I've been working with VM since 1978 (12 more years to go?). :-) Mike Walter Hewitt Associates The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. -- VMSES HELPME contents: Useful commands to find z/VM service/maintenance information: SERVICE ALL STATUS SERVICE ALL STATUS ptfnumber (e.g. UM#) SERVICE ALL STATUS aparnumber (e.g. VM#) VMFINFO ZVM componentname (SETUP - place a non-blank character to: PTFs/APARs - press ENTER - displayed next (in part): PTF number .. (PF1 to select from list of PTFs) APAR number . (PF1 to select from list of APARs) - place the cursor on the PRT or APAR line and press PF1. Woohoo! VMFSIM QUERY VM SYSRECS TDATA :PPF ZVM CP :STAT VMFSIM QUERY VM SYSRECS TDATA :PPF SERVP2P CP :STAT VMFSIM QUERY VM SYSRECS TDATA :PPF SERVP2P :STAT .cm VMFSIM cmds on IBMVM-L 20080506 by "Bill Munson" -- "Marcy Cortes" Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 06/02/2010 02:34 PM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: How to determine if a p
Re: Can you help the Open Object Rexx Project?
On 6/2/10 20:20 McKown, John said: -Original Message- Chip Davis Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 3:14 PM Would anyone with the necessary resources be interested in helping out? Wish I could help. However, it is quite possible to run z/Linux on Hercules/390 on an Intel system (Linux or Windows). I think that many run CentOS. Of course, the OORexx people may not have the people to maintain yet another Linux environment. Perhaps, but I think it might be counter-productive to add an additional layer of emulation, even if there was someone who had the time to set it up and maintain it. -Chip-
Re: How to determine if a particular fix is applied
> I?m having a difficult time finding out if a particular PTF is applied. I?ve looked through the > ?z/VM Service Guide? and ?z/VM Automated Installation and Service?. > Can someone point me in the right direction? We did write this task up in the Virtualization Cookbooks. As I recall the key was to have the component name associated with the LPAR where that was usually CP, CMS, DIRM, etc. In the SLES 11 cookbook (top of linuxvm.org/present) , it is section 5.1.2 - Determining if a PTF has been applied". "Mike MacIsaac"(845) 433-7061
Re: Can you help the Open Object Rexx Project?
I have built it recently. So if you just need validation: confirmed. Yep, it works. Thanks to changes made available in 4.0.0 it actually builds according to "the standard recipe". Vewy nice. As a result, both OORexx and Regina are available for both i386 (32 bit) and s390 (32 bit) on a ready-to-run CD image at http://www.casita.net/pub/nord/CD1-s390.iso.gz (Unlike "CD2", this one has both platforms, though the name of the download implies just one. That will change in the future.) That copy was built for /usr/opt relocation. You can use it immediately, but it's a different animal from RPM packaging. If you wish to build an RPM, that's a different matter. As John McKown said, it's reasonably easy to do with Hercules. -- R; <>< On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 16:14, Chip Davis wrote: > As many of you are aware, several years ago IBM gave the source code of > Object REXX to the Rexx Language Association to maintain and enhance the > language as an Open Source Project http://www.oorexx.org with a CPL 1.0 > license. It currently runs on: > * 32-bit Windows platforms; Windows 9x/Me/NT/2000/XP/Vista including > server products > * 32-bit Linux distributions including RedHat, Fedora, Debian > * x86 and Sparc Solaris in 32-bit mode on 64-bit processors > * AIX 5.x in 32-bit mode > * x86 and PPC MacOS X > * z/Linux > > A recent inquiry to the ooRexx developers elicited this response from David > Ashley, the ooRexx Project Manager: > > "Unfortunately, we lost our access to the zLinux system we used to build > the > 4.0.0 version of ooRexx. If you know of someone who can grant us access to > a zLinux partition somewhere, we would be glad to build a version of 4.0.1 > for zLinux. Note that we need root access to the partition so we can > install the RPM for testing." > > Would anyone with the necessary resources be interested in helping out? If > so, please contact David Ashley . > > Thanks, > > -Chip Davis- >
Re: Can you help the Open Object Rexx Project?
Sounds like an ideal project for the OSDL system based at Marist. This system is for open source developers to bring code to Linux on z. I do the development of Mono on a SLES10 system they provisioned for me. On Jun 2, 2010, at 16:14, "Chip Davis" wrote: > As many of you are aware, several years ago IBM gave the source code > of Object > REXX to the Rexx Language Association to maintain and enhance the > language as an > Open Source Project http://www.oorexx.org with a CPL 1.0 license. > It currently > runs on: > * 32-bit Windows platforms; Windows 9x/Me/NT/2000/XP/Vista > including server > products > * 32-bit Linux distributions including RedHat, Fedora, Debian > * x86 and Sparc Solaris in 32-bit mode on 64-bit processors > * AIX 5.x in 32-bit mode > * x86 and PPC MacOS X > * z/Linux > > A recent inquiry to the ooRexx developers elicited this response > from David > Ashley, the ooRexx Project Manager: > > "Unfortunately, we lost our access to the zLinux system we used to > build the >4.0.0 version of ooRexx. If you know of someone who can grant us > access to >a zLinux partition somewhere, we would be glad to build a version > of 4.0.1 >for zLinux. Note that we need root access to the partition so we > can >install the RPM for testing." > > Would anyone with the necessary resources be interested in helping > out? If so, > please contact David Ashley . > > Thanks, > > -Chip Davis-
Re: How to determine if a particular fix is applied
Clever use of HELP. I have a bunch of similar files, but they are HOWTOs. I like the help much better! SERVICE ALL STATUS still won't tell me what I really need to know - is this system running with this PTF. Various things might have happened along the way. Someone forgot PUT2PROD, missed a message about something not going in because of a conflicting local mod, etc. It's not such a big deal with one or 2 systems, but with 9 active and another 7 or so that come up occasionally... And second chances are few and far between... And we continually have PTFs to roll in to prod because of some of the "interesting" stuff we're doing. Looking forward to the future, Marcy "This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation." From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 1:20 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] How to determine if a particular fix is applied Perhaps you could muddle with a disconnected SVM, permitting it to execute the "SERVICE ALL STATUS ..." command and return the results to the requester? Even OPERATOR could issue it so that you sleep better after an sysprog-unattended service IPL. Just a SMOP, right? I often KNOW that there is a particular command that will do JUST what I want, but don't enter it often enough to remember offhand the often arcane syntax (wow: three uses of "often" in ONE sentence - no, that makes it four uses of often, now five...!). Definition: Loop, see: Loop ;-) So for those cases I create simple (very simple) personal sysprog HELP files so that I can enter: HELP ME whatever As example, some that we have include: Filename Filetype HUNGUSER HELPME NETSTAT HELPME SENDFILE HELPME SFS HELPME TAPEINIT HELPME TRACKHELPME VMARCH HELPME VMLINK HELPME VMSESHELPME VMTAPE HELPME VTS HELPME The text in those help files is enough of the syntax to handle my most-frequent usage requirements, and added examples are easy to add as needed. The full help remains available, since IBM and ISV's have never (so far) distributed the filetype "HELPME". If one copies the lines (after the signature lines) between the "--" delimiter as file: VMSES HELPME then entering is will provide an easy answer to this question. And it will serve as an example for other HELPME files you might want to come up with on your own. I like "easy" ... perhaps that's one reason I've been working with VM since 1978 (12 more years to go?). :-) Mike Walter Hewitt Associates The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. -- VMSES HELPME contents: Useful commands to find z/VM service/maintenance information: SERVICE ALL STATUS SERVICE ALL STATUS ptfnumber (e.g. UM#) SERVICE ALL STATUS aparnumber (e.g. VM#) VMFINFO ZVM componentname (SETUP - place a non-blank character to: PTFs/APARs - press ENTER - displayed next (in part): PTF number .. (PF1 to select from list of PTFs) APAR number . (PF1 to select from list of APARs) - place the cursor on the PRT or APAR line and press PF1. Woohoo! VMFSIM QUERY VM SYSRECS TDATA :PPF ZVM CP :STAT VMFSIM QUERY VM SYSRECS TDATA :PPF SERVP2P CP :STAT VMFSIM QUERY VM SYSRECS TDATA :PPF SERVP2P :STAT .cm VMFSI
Re: Can you help the Open Object Rexx Project?
> -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Chip Davis > Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 3:14 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Can you help the Open Object Rexx Project? > > As many of you are aware, several years ago IBM gave the > source code of Object > REXX to the Rexx Language Association to maintain and enhance > the language as an > Open Source Project http://www.oorexx.org with a CPL 1.0 > license. It currently > runs on: > * 32-bit Windows platforms; Windows > 9x/Me/NT/2000/XP/Vista including server > products > * 32-bit Linux distributions including RedHat, Fedora, Debian > * x86 and Sparc Solaris in 32-bit mode on 64-bit processors > * AIX 5.x in 32-bit mode > * x86 and PPC MacOS X > * z/Linux > > A recent inquiry to the ooRexx developers elicited this > response from David > Ashley, the ooRexx Project Manager: > >"Unfortunately, we lost our access to the zLinux system we > used to build the > 4.0.0 version of ooRexx. If you know of someone who can > grant us access to > a zLinux partition somewhere, we would be glad to build a > version of 4.0.1 > for zLinux. Note that we need root access to the > partition so we can > install the RPM for testing." > > Would anyone with the necessary resources be interested in > helping out? If so, > please contact David Ashley . > > Thanks, > > -Chip Davis- Wish I could help. However, it is quite possible to run z/Linux on Hercules/390 on an Intel system (Linux or Windows). I think that many run CentOS. Of course, the OORexx people may not have the people to maintain yet another Linux environment. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM
Re: How to determine if a particular fix is applied
Perhaps you could muddle with a disconnected SVM, permitting it to execute the "SERVICE ALL STATUS ..." command and return the results to the requester? Even OPERATOR could issue it so that you sleep better after an sysprog-unattended service IPL. Just a SMOP, right? I often KNOW that there is a particular command that will do JUST what I want, but don't enter it often enough to remember offhand the often arcane syntax (wow: three uses of "often" in ONE sentence - no, that makes it four uses of often, now five...!). Definition: Loop, see: Loop ;-) So for those cases I create simple (very simple) personal sysprog HELP files so that I can enter: HELP ME whatever As example, some that we have include: Filename Filetype HUNGUSER HELPME NETSTAT HELPME SENDFILE HELPME SFS HELPME TAPEINIT HELPME TRACKHELPME VMARCH HELPME VMLINK HELPME VMSESHELPME VMTAPE HELPME VTS HELPME The text in those help files is enough of the syntax to handle my most-frequent usage requirements, and added examples are easy to add as needed. The full help remains available, since IBM and ISV's have never (so far) distributed the filetype "HELPME". If one copies the lines (after the signature lines) between the "--" delimiter as file: VMSES HELPME then entering is will provide an easy answer to this question. And it will serve as an example for other HELPME files you might want to come up with on your own. I like "easy" ... perhaps that's one reason I've been working with VM since 1978 (12 more years to go?). :-) Mike Walter Hewitt Associates The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. -- VMSES HELPME contents: Useful commands to find z/VM service/maintenance information: SERVICE ALL STATUS SERVICE ALL STATUS ptfnumber (e.g. UM#) SERVICE ALL STATUS aparnumber (e.g. VM#) VMFINFO ZVM componentname (SETUP - place a non-blank character to: PTFs/APARs - press ENTER - displayed next (in part): PTF number .. (PF1 to select from list of PTFs) APAR number . (PF1 to select from list of APARs) - place the cursor on the PRT or APAR line and press PF1. Woohoo! VMFSIM QUERY VM SYSRECS TDATA :PPF ZVM CP :STAT VMFSIM QUERY VM SYSRECS TDATA :PPF SERVP2P CP :STAT VMFSIM QUERY VM SYSRECS TDATA :PPF SERVP2P :STAT .cm VMFSIM cmds on IBMVM-L 20080506 by "Bill Munson" -- "Marcy Cortes" Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 06/02/2010 02:34 PM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: How to determine if a particular fix is applied well, that's the truth! But it's going to tell you if SES has applied it. If you've not done PUT2PROD and IPL'd, it may not be on your system. Actually verifying that your running system has it is another can of worms involved reading CPLOAD maps date/timestamps and Q CPLEVEL. Sure would be nice if one could say CP QUERY APAR VM64830 and get something back like VM64830 is installed and the following modules were affected: HCPERR, HCPIFI, HCPPAU or VM64830 is not applied to CP or is not a CP APAR (all we really care about is CP, those other things... whatever :) Marcy "This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation." From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:23 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] How to determine if a particular fix is applied Well, that's much easier than it was in the VM/ESA days! Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Ray Waters Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 2:20 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: How to determine if a particular fix is applied Frank, Logon to MAINT and try out VMFINFO EXEC. Ray Waters From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 2:13 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: How to determine if a particular fix is applied I'm having a difficult time finding out if a particular PTF is applied. I've looked through the "z/VM Service Guide" and "z/VM Automated Installation and Service". Can someone point me in the right direction? Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE American Income Life Insurance
Can you help the Open Object Rexx Project?
As many of you are aware, several years ago IBM gave the source code of Object REXX to the Rexx Language Association to maintain and enhance the language as an Open Source Project http://www.oorexx.org with a CPL 1.0 license. It currently runs on: * 32-bit Windows platforms; Windows 9x/Me/NT/2000/XP/Vista including server products * 32-bit Linux distributions including RedHat, Fedora, Debian * x86 and Sparc Solaris in 32-bit mode on 64-bit processors * AIX 5.x in 32-bit mode * x86 and PPC MacOS X * z/Linux A recent inquiry to the ooRexx developers elicited this response from David Ashley, the ooRexx Project Manager: "Unfortunately, we lost our access to the zLinux system we used to build the 4.0.0 version of ooRexx. If you know of someone who can grant us access to a zLinux partition somewhere, we would be glad to build a version of 4.0.1 for zLinux. Note that we need root access to the partition so we can install the RPM for testing." Would anyone with the necessary resources be interested in helping out? If so, please contact David Ashley . Thanks, -Chip Davis-
Re: How to determine if a particular fix is applied
We've got it pretty sweet now, try the VM days before SES. I am happy with SES. Ray -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 2:47 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: How to determine if a particular fix is applied A CP query would allow the operator to be able to do it and then the change requestor can sleep through the night! :) Marcy "This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation." -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Ray Waters Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:43 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] How to determine if a particular fix is applied That is when you go be to the old way: VMFSETUP ZVM CP and then FILEL * *APAR#* * Ray -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 2:34 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: How to determine if a particular fix is applied well, that's the truth! But it's going to tell you if SES has applied it. If you've not done PUT2PROD and IPL'd, it may not be on your system. Actually verifying that your running system has it is another can of worms involved reading CPLOAD maps date/timestamps and Q CPLEVEL. Sure would be nice if one could say CP QUERY APAR VM64830 and get something back like VM64830 is installed and the following modules were affected: HCPERR, HCPIFI, HCPPAU or VM64830 is not applied to CP or is not a CP APAR (all we really care about is CP, those other things... whatever :) Marcy "This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation." From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:23 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] How to determine if a particular fix is applied Well, that's much easier than it was in the VM/ESA days! Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Ray Waters Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 2:20 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: How to determine if a particular fix is applied Frank, Logon to MAINT and try out VMFINFO EXEC. Ray Waters From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 2:13 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: How to determine if a particular fix is applied I'm having a difficult time finding out if a particular PTF is applied. I've looked through the "z/VM Service Guide" and "z/VM Automated Installation and Service". Can someone point me in the right direction? Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649 1200 Wooded Acres Dr. Fax: (254)741-5777 Waco, Texas 76701 _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com. NOTICE: This e-mail is intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise exempt from disclosure. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify us by replying to the original message at the listed email address. Thank You. ___
Re: How to determine if a particular fix is applied
A CP query would allow the operator to be able to do it and then the change requestor can sleep through the night! :) Marcy "This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation." -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Ray Waters Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:43 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] How to determine if a particular fix is applied That is when you go be to the old way: VMFSETUP ZVM CP and then FILEL * *APAR#* * Ray -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 2:34 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: How to determine if a particular fix is applied well, that's the truth! But it's going to tell you if SES has applied it. If you've not done PUT2PROD and IPL'd, it may not be on your system. Actually verifying that your running system has it is another can of worms involved reading CPLOAD maps date/timestamps and Q CPLEVEL. Sure would be nice if one could say CP QUERY APAR VM64830 and get something back like VM64830 is installed and the following modules were affected: HCPERR, HCPIFI, HCPPAU or VM64830 is not applied to CP or is not a CP APAR (all we really care about is CP, those other things... whatever :) Marcy "This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation." From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:23 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] How to determine if a particular fix is applied Well, that's much easier than it was in the VM/ESA days! Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Ray Waters Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 2:20 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: How to determine if a particular fix is applied Frank, Logon to MAINT and try out VMFINFO EXEC. Ray Waters From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 2:13 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: How to determine if a particular fix is applied I'm having a difficult time finding out if a particular PTF is applied. I've looked through the "z/VM Service Guide" and "z/VM Automated Installation and Service". Can someone point me in the right direction? Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649 1200 Wooded Acres Dr. Fax: (254)741-5777 Waco, Texas 76701 _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com. NOTICE: This e-mail is intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise exempt from disclosure. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify us by replying to the original message at the listed email address. Thank You. _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, ple
Re: How to determine if a particular fix is applied
That is when you go be to the old way: VMFSETUP ZVM CP and then FILEL * *APAR#* * Ray -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 2:34 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: How to determine if a particular fix is applied well, that's the truth! But it's going to tell you if SES has applied it. If you've not done PUT2PROD and IPL'd, it may not be on your system. Actually verifying that your running system has it is another can of worms involved reading CPLOAD maps date/timestamps and Q CPLEVEL. Sure would be nice if one could say CP QUERY APAR VM64830 and get something back like VM64830 is installed and the following modules were affected: HCPERR, HCPIFI, HCPPAU or VM64830 is not applied to CP or is not a CP APAR (all we really care about is CP, those other things... whatever :) Marcy "This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation." From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:23 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] How to determine if a particular fix is applied Well, that's much easier than it was in the VM/ESA days! Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Ray Waters Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 2:20 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: How to determine if a particular fix is applied Frank, Logon to MAINT and try out VMFINFO EXEC. Ray Waters From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 2:13 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: How to determine if a particular fix is applied I'm having a difficult time finding out if a particular PTF is applied. I've looked through the "z/VM Service Guide" and "z/VM Automated Installation and Service". Can someone point me in the right direction? Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649 1200 Wooded Acres Dr. Fax: (254)741-5777 Waco, Texas 76701 _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com. NOTICE: This e-mail is intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise exempt from disclosure. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify us by replying to the original message at the listed email address. Thank You. _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com. NOTICE: This e-mail is intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise exempt from disclosure. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify us by replying to the original message at the listed email address. Thank You.
Re: How to determine if a particular fix is applied
well, that's the truth! But it's going to tell you if SES has applied it. If you've not done PUT2PROD and IPL'd, it may not be on your system. Actually verifying that your running system has it is another can of worms involved reading CPLOAD maps date/timestamps and Q CPLEVEL. Sure would be nice if one could say CP QUERY APAR VM64830 and get something back like VM64830 is installed and the following modules were affected: HCPERR, HCPIFI, HCPPAU or VM64830 is not applied to CP or is not a CP APAR (all we really care about is CP, those other things... whatever :) Marcy "This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation." From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:23 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] How to determine if a particular fix is applied Well, that's much easier than it was in the VM/ESA days! Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Ray Waters Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 2:20 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: How to determine if a particular fix is applied Frank, Logon to MAINT and try out VMFINFO EXEC. Ray Waters From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 2:13 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: How to determine if a particular fix is applied I'm having a difficult time finding out if a particular PTF is applied. I've looked through the "z/VM Service Guide" and "z/VM Automated Installation and Service". Can someone point me in the right direction? Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649 1200 Wooded Acres Dr. Fax: (254)741-5777 Waco, Texas 76701 _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com. NOTICE: This e-mail is intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise exempt from disclosure. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify us by replying to the original message at the listed email address. Thank You. _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com.
Re: How to determine if a particular fix is applied
You got that right. Be sure and: Setup ... YESfor the first PTF/APAR you check on. Then if staying with same component, no need to SETUP again. Ray From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 2:23 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: How to determine if a particular fix is applied Well, that's much easier than it was in the VM/ESA days! Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Ray Waters Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 2:20 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: How to determine if a particular fix is applied Frank, Logon to MAINT and try out VMFINFO EXEC. Ray Waters From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 2:13 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: How to determine if a particular fix is applied I'm having a difficult time finding out if a particular PTF is applied. I've looked through the "z/VM Service Guide" and "z/VM Automated Installation and Service". Can someone point me in the right direction? Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649 1200 Wooded Acres Dr. Fax: (254)741-5777 Waco, Texas 76701 _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com. NOTICE: This e-mail is intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise exempt from disclosure. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify us by replying to the original message at the listed email address. Thank You. _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com. NOTICE: This e-mail is intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise exempt from disclosure. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify us by replying to the original message at the listed email address. Thank You.
Re: How to determine if a particular fix is applied
Well, that's much easier than it was in the VM/ESA days! Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Ray Waters Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 2:20 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: How to determine if a particular fix is applied Frank, Logon to MAINT and try out VMFINFO EXEC. Ray Waters From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 2:13 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: How to determine if a particular fix is applied I'm having a difficult time finding out if a particular PTF is applied. I've looked through the "z/VM Service Guide" and "z/VM Automated Installation and Service". Can someone point me in the right direction? Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649 1200 Wooded Acres Dr. Fax: (254)741-5777 Waco, Texas 76701 _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com. NOTICE: This e-mail is intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise exempt from disclosure. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify us by replying to the original message at the listed email address. Thank You. _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com.
Re: How to determine if a particular fix is applied
Frank, Logon to MAINT and try out VMFINFO EXEC. Ray Waters From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 2:13 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: How to determine if a particular fix is applied I'm having a difficult time finding out if a particular PTF is applied. I've looked through the "z/VM Service Guide" and "z/VM Automated Installation and Service". Can someone point me in the right direction? Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649 1200 Wooded Acres Dr. Fax: (254)741-5777 Waco, Texas 76701 _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com. NOTICE: This e-mail is intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise exempt from disclosure. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify us by replying to the original message at the listed email address. Thank You.
How to determine if a particular fix is applied
I'm having a difficult time finding out if a particular PTF is applied. I've looked through the "z/VM Service Guide" and "z/VM Automated Installation and Service". Can someone point me in the right direction? Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649 1200 Wooded Acres Dr. Fax: (254)741-5777 Waco, Texas 76701 _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com.
Re: VM 6.1 1st level install from FTP?
> The only difference > is that you have set up the HMC to associate the mass storage media > service with a remote FTP server instead of the local DVD drive. Yes, there is that approach, but isn't there another approach where you just list the FTP credentials in the "Load from Removable Media" HMC panel by clicking the "FTP Source" radio button? (I have used this latter method, but have never set up the FTP server.) "Mike MacIsaac"(845) 433-7061
Re: VM 6.1 1st level install from FTP?
Cool! Thanks, we'll give it a try. Lee On 6/2/2010 11:06 AM, Alan Altmark wrote: On Wednesday, 06/02/2010 at 12:08 EDT, Lee Stewart wrote: Has anyone tried installing 1st level from an FTP server? (Our machine is in Dallas and us and the DVD are here in Denver.) The HMC will load from the FTP server. Then maybe just run DVDPRIME? But does the RAM image have the 22CC and 2CF1 disks to be loaded? Follow the first-level DVD installation instructions. The only difference is that you have set up the HMC to associate the mass storage media service with a remote FTP server instead of the local DVD drive. In a first-level install, VM doesn't know (or care) that the data is coming from an FTP server. The Appendix H or thereabouts of the HMC book contains information on how to configure the mass storage device to use a remote FTP server. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott -- Lee Stewart, Senior SE Sirius Computer Solutions Phone: (303) 996-7122 Email: lee.stew...@siriuscom.com Web: www.siriuscom.com
Re: VM 6.1 1st level install from FTP?
On Wednesday, 06/02/2010 at 12:08 EDT, Lee Stewart wrote: > Has anyone tried installing 1st level from an FTP server? (Our machine > is in Dallas and us and the DVD are here in Denver.) The HMC will load > from the FTP server. Then maybe just run DVDPRIME? But does the RAM > image have the 22CC and 2CF1 disks to be loaded? Follow the first-level DVD installation instructions. The only difference is that you have set up the HMC to associate the mass storage media service with a remote FTP server instead of the local DVD drive. In a first-level install, VM doesn't know (or care) that the data is coming from an FTP server. The Appendix H or thereabouts of the HMC book contains information on how to configure the mass storage device to use a remote FTP server. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
VM 6.1 1st level install from FTP?
Has anyone tried installing 1st level from an FTP server? (Our machine is in Dallas and us and the DVD are here in Denver.) The HMC will load from the FTP server. Then maybe just run DVDPRIME? But does the RAM image have the 22CC and 2CF1 disks to be loaded? Lee -- Lee Stewart, Senior SE Sirius Computer Solutions Phone: (303) 996-7122 Email: lee.stew...@siriuscom.com Web: www.siriuscom.com
Re: Automated Logoff of CMS user
Actually he had been the junior on audit team two years before. He remembered arguing with me and gave up earlier than his boss had done. But winning these audit battles doesn't really help you with the audit te am themselves, but helps your boss remember that you really do know what you are talking about, and they might back you up a bit more. /Tom Kern On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 19:42:54 -0500, Marcy Cortes wrote: >Wah? Someone has gotten the same auditor 2x? And one that knows how to spell VM? That sounds like an exposure right there :P ) > >Marcy >-Original Message- >From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Thomas Kern >Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 5:32 PM >To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU >Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Automated Logoff of CMS user > >If they come back and say LOGOFF, then argue with them on the real secur ity of the >terminate communications path and the requirement for reauthentication prior to any user >interaction with programs in that virtual machine. > >If you win, it may be a small victory but it will help you the next time you need to argue >bigger things with them. > >/Tom Kern
Re: Automated Logoff of CMS user
> -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On > Behalf Of Alan Altmark > Natch. One must always challenge a flawed finding. Likewise, one must > accept the valid ones. Wisdom is knowing the difference. [With > apologies > to Dr. Niebuhr.] I tend to fall into the "discretion is the greater part of valour" camp, but again, YMMV. I guess I've reached the point in life where crusades are less fun than they used to be. > No, key lock is not reported, being a completely local phenomenon. I > was > thinking along the lines of the host causing the emulator to enable the > workstation's (or its own) lock program just by sending a special order > or > structured field. When the user types a password, the data flows back > to > the host for validation. Kind of like an http challenge. It would have to be inside the terminal emulator itself. Screen lock in most desktop systems is separate from individual applications and you wouldn't have the ability to modify/trigger it. Too bad about the key lock. That would have been elegant. "VM -- just turn the key." > Of course, VM's ability to disconnect the session from the virtual > machine > accomplishes the same thing, but it's rather heavy handed. I've always found auditors to err on the side of the solution that has the potential to annoy the most number of people with the least likelihood of being traced back to them. 8-) -- db
