Dynamically adding page space

2011-03-29 Thread Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E]
I'm trying to dynamically add a page pack to our z/VM system and I've got a 
situation that I don't have in my notes. z/VM 5.4 on a z9
I've formatted the volume (3330-3) as a page volume and defined a cpowned slot 
for it.

def cpowned slot 10 VMPPG5

But when I display cpowned, it show as offline:

q cpowned
Slot  Vol-ID  Rdev  Type   Status
   1  VMPRES  1003  OwnOnline and attached
   2  VMPSPL  1004  OwnOnline and attached
   3  VMPPAG  1002  OwnOnline and attached
   4  VMPW01  1005  OwnOnline and attached
   5  VMPW02  1006  OwnOnline and attached
   6  VMPPG2  10E5  OwnOnline and attached
   7  VMPW03  10EF  OwnOnline and attached
   8  VMPPG3  108F  OwnOnline and attached
   9  VMPPG4  109C  OwnOnline and attached
  10  VMPPG5    OwnOffline

However:

q 100c
DASD 100C VMPAG5


So what have I missed?


Bobby Bauer
Center for Information Technology
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
301-594-7474




Re: Dynamically adding page space

2011-03-29 Thread Mark Pace
ATTACH 100C TO SYSTEM

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E] 
baue...@mail.nih.gov wrote:

  I’m trying to dynamically add a page pack to our z/VM system and I’ve got
 a situation that I don’t have in my notes. z/VM 5.4 on a z9

 I’ve formatted the volume (3330-3) as a page volume and defined a cpowned
 slot for it.



 def cpowned slot 10 VMPPG5



 But when I display cpowned, it show as offline:



 q cpowned

 Slot  Vol-ID  Rdev  Type   Status

1  VMPRES  1003  OwnOnline and attached

2  VMPSPL  1004  OwnOnline and attached

3  VMPPAG  1002  OwnOnline and attached

4  VMPW01  1005  OwnOnline and attached

5  VMPW02  1006  OwnOnline and attached

6  VMPPG2  10E5  OwnOnline and attached

7  VMPW03  10EF  OwnOnline and attached

8  VMPPG3  108F  OwnOnline and attached

9  VMPPG4  109C  OwnOnline and attached

   10  VMPPG5    OwnOffline



 However:



 q 100c

 DASD 100C VMPAG5





 So what have I missed?





 Bobby Bauer
 Center for Information Technology
 National Institutes of Health
 Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
 301-594-7474






-- 
Mark D Pace
Senior Systems Engineer
Mainline Information Systems


Re: Dynamically adding page space

2011-03-29 Thread Said, Nick
ATT 100C SYSTEM
 
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On
Behalf Of Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E]
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:11 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Dynamically adding page space
 
I'm trying to dynamically add a page pack to our z/VM system and I've
got a situation that I don't have in my notes. z/VM 5.4 on a z9
I've formatted the volume (3330-3) as a page volume and defined a
cpowned slot for it. 
 
def cpowned slot 10 VMPPG5
 
But when I display cpowned, it show as offline:
 
q cpowned 
Slot  Vol-ID  Rdev  Type   Status 
   1  VMPRES  1003  OwnOnline and attached
   2  VMPSPL  1004  OwnOnline and attached
   3  VMPPAG  1002  OwnOnline and attached
   4  VMPW01  1005  OwnOnline and attached
   5  VMPW02  1006  OwnOnline and attached
   6  VMPPG2  10E5  OwnOnline and attached
   7  VMPW03  10EF  OwnOnline and attached
   8  VMPPG3  108F  OwnOnline and attached
   9  VMPPG4  109C  OwnOnline and attached
  10  VMPPG5    OwnOffline
 
However:
 
q 100c
DASD 100C VMPAG5  
 
 
So what have I missed?
 
 
Bobby Bauer
Center for Information Technology
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
301-594-7474
  


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Re: Dynamically adding page space

2011-03-29 Thread Karl Kingston
You're missing:

ATTACH 100C TO SYSTEM





From:   Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E] baue...@mail.nih.gov
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Date:   03/29/2011 09:10 AM
Subject:Dynamically adding page space
Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU



I?m trying to dynamically add a page pack to our z/VM system and I?ve got 
a situation that I don?t have in my notes. z/VM 5.4 on a z9
I?ve formatted the volume (3330-3) as a page volume and defined a cpowned 
slot for it. 
 
def cpowned slot 10 VMPPG5
 
But when I display cpowned, it show as offline:
 
q cpowned 
Slot  Vol-ID  Rdev  Type   Status 
   1  VMPRES  1003  OwnOnline and attached 
   2  VMPSPL  1004  OwnOnline and attached 
   3  VMPPAG  1002  OwnOnline and attached 
   4  VMPW01  1005  OwnOnline and attached 
   5  VMPW02  1006  OwnOnline and attached 
   6  VMPPG2  10E5  OwnOnline and attached 
   7  VMPW03  10EF  OwnOnline and attached 
   8  VMPPG3  108F  OwnOnline and attached 
   9  VMPPG4  109C  OwnOnline and attached 
  10  VMPPG5    OwnOffline 
 
However:
 
q 100c 
DASD 100C VMPAG5 
 
 
So what have I missed?
 
 
Bobby Bauer
Center for Information Technology
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
301-594-7474
  


Re: Dynamically adding page space

2011-03-29 Thread Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E]
That would help!

I did that but it still didn't changed the cpowned state


Bobby Bauer
Center for Information Technology
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
301-594-7474
From: Karl Kingston [mailto:karlkings...@ongov.net]
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:14 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Dynamically adding page space

You're missing:

ATTACH 100C TO SYSTEM





From:Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E] baue...@mail.nih.gov
To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Date:03/29/2011 09:10 AM
Subject:Dynamically adding page space
Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU




I'm trying to dynamically add a page pack to our z/VM system and I've got a 
situation that I don't have in my notes. z/VM 5.4 on a z9
I've formatted the volume (3330-3) as a page volume and defined a cpowned slot 
for it.

def cpowned slot 10 VMPPG5

But when I display cpowned, it show as offline:

q cpowned
Slot  Vol-ID  Rdev  Type   Status
   1  VMPRES  1003  OwnOnline and attached
   2  VMPSPL  1004  OwnOnline and attached
   3  VMPPAG  1002  OwnOnline and attached
   4  VMPW01  1005  OwnOnline and attached
   5  VMPW02  1006  OwnOnline and attached
   6  VMPPG2  10E5  OwnOnline and attached
   7  VMPW03  10EF  OwnOnline and attached
   8  VMPPG3  108F  OwnOnline and attached
   9  VMPPG4  109C  OwnOnline and attached
  10  VMPPG5    OwnOffline

However:

q 100c
DASD 100C VMPAG5


So what have I missed?


Bobby Bauer
Center for Information Technology
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
301-594-7474




Re: Dynamically adding page space

2011-03-29 Thread Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E]
and now for the rest of the email

q cpowned
Slot  Vol-ID  Rdev  Type   Status
   1  VMPRES  1003  OwnOnline and attached
   2  VMPSPL  1004  OwnOnline and attached
   3  VMPPAG  1002  OwnOnline and attached
   4  VMPW01  1005  OwnOnline and attached
   5  VMPW02  1006  OwnOnline and attached
   6  VMPPG2  10E5  OwnOnline and attached
   7  VMPW03  10EF  OwnOnline and attached
   8  VMPPG3  108F  OwnOnline and attached
   9  VMPPG4  109C  OwnOnline and attached
  10  VMPPG5    OwnOffline

q 100c
DASD 100C CP SYSTEM VMPAG5   0


Bobby Bauer
Center for Information Technology
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
301-594-7474
From: Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E]
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:18 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: RE: Dynamically adding page space

That would help!

I did that but it still didn't changed the cpowned state


Bobby Bauer
Center for Information Technology
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
301-594-7474
From: Karl Kingston [mailto:karlkings...@ongov.net]
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:14 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Dynamically adding page space

You're missing:

ATTACH 100C TO SYSTEM





From:Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E] baue...@mail.nih.gov
To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Date:03/29/2011 09:10 AM
Subject:Dynamically adding page space
Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU




I'm trying to dynamically add a page pack to our z/VM system and I've got a 
situation that I don't have in my notes. z/VM 5.4 on a z9
I've formatted the volume (3330-3) as a page volume and defined a cpowned slot 
for it.

def cpowned slot 10 VMPPG5

But when I display cpowned, it show as offline:

q cpowned
Slot  Vol-ID  Rdev  Type   Status
   1  VMPRES  1003  OwnOnline and attached
   2  VMPSPL  1004  OwnOnline and attached
   3  VMPPAG  1002  OwnOnline and attached
   4  VMPW01  1005  OwnOnline and attached
   5  VMPW02  1006  OwnOnline and attached
   6  VMPPG2  10E5  OwnOnline and attached
   7  VMPW03  10EF  OwnOnline and attached
   8  VMPPG3  108F  OwnOnline and attached
   9  VMPPG4  109C  OwnOnline and attached
  10  VMPPG5    OwnOffline

However:

q 100c
DASD 100C VMPAG5


So what have I missed?


Bobby Bauer
Center for Information Technology
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
301-594-7474




Re: Dynamically adding page space

2011-03-29 Thread Shumate, Scott
Do you have it attached to another user?  After I format the disk, I do
the following:
 
detach the disk
do the def cpowned command
query cpowned to verify its there
then attach it to system
if you query the disk then you will see it online
 

Thanks 
Scott 

 



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On
Behalf Of Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E]
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:18 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Dynamically adding page space



That would help!

 

I did that but it still didn't changed the cpowned state

 

 

Bobby Bauer
Center for Information Technology
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
301-594-7474

From: Karl Kingston [mailto:karlkings...@ongov.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:14 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Dynamically adding page space

 

You're missing: 

ATTACH 100C TO SYSTEM 





From:Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E] baue...@mail.nih.gov 
To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 
Date:03/29/2011 09:10 AM 
Subject:Dynamically adding page space 
Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 






I'm trying to dynamically add a page pack to our z/VM system and I've
got a situation that I don't have in my notes. z/VM 5.4 on a z9 
I've formatted the volume (3330-3) as a page volume and defined a
cpowned slot for it. 
  
def cpowned slot 10 VMPPG5 
  
But when I display cpowned, it show as offline: 
  
q cpowned 
Slot  Vol-ID  Rdev  Type   Status 
   1  VMPRES  1003  OwnOnline and attached 
   2  VMPSPL  1004  OwnOnline and attached 
   3  VMPPAG  1002  OwnOnline and attached 
   4  VMPW01  1005  OwnOnline and attached 
   5  VMPW02  1006  OwnOnline and attached 
   6  VMPPG2  10E5  OwnOnline and attached 
   7  VMPW03  10EF  OwnOnline and attached 
   8  VMPPG3  108F  OwnOnline and attached 
   9  VMPPG4  109C  OwnOnline and attached 
  10  VMPPG5    OwnOffline 
  
However: 
  
q 100c 
DASD 100C VMPAG5   
  
  
So what have I missed? 
  
  
Bobby Bauer
Center for Information Technology
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
301-594-7474 

  



Re: Dynamically adding page space

2011-03-29 Thread Karl Kingston
Are you sure you didn't make a typo when  you defined the volume?

CP Owned shows the volser as VMPPG5  whereas the one attached to system is 
VMPAG5?



From:   Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E] baue...@mail.nih.gov
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Date:   03/29/2011 09:18 AM
Subject:Re: Dynamically adding page space
Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU



and now for the rest of the email
 
q cpowned 
Slot  Vol-ID  Rdev  Type   Status 
   1  VMPRES  1003  OwnOnline and attached 
   2  VMPSPL  1004  OwnOnline and attached 
   3  VMPPAG  1002  OwnOnline and attached 
   4  VMPW01  1005  OwnOnline and attached 
   5  VMPW02  1006  OwnOnline and attached 
   6  VMPPG2  10E5  OwnOnline and attached 
   7  VMPW03  10EF  OwnOnline and attached 
   8  VMPPG3  108F  OwnOnline and attached 
   9  VMPPG4  109C  OwnOnline and attached 
  10  VMPPG5    OwnOffline 
 
q 100c 
DASD 100C CP SYSTEM VMPAG5   0 
 
 
Bobby Bauer
Center for Information Technology
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
301-594-7474
From: Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:18 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: RE: Dynamically adding page space
 
That would help!
 
I did that but it still didn?t changed the cpowned state
 
 
Bobby Bauer
Center for Information Technology
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
301-594-7474
From: Karl Kingston [mailto:karlkings...@ongov.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:14 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Dynamically adding page space
 
You're missing: 

ATTACH 100C TO SYSTEM 





From:Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E] baue...@mail.nih.gov 
To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 
Date:03/29/2011 09:10 AM 
Subject:Dynamically adding page space 
Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 




I?m trying to dynamically add a page pack to our z/VM system and I?ve got 
a situation that I don?t have in my notes. z/VM 5.4 on a z9 
I?ve formatted the volume (3330-3) as a page volume and defined a cpowned 
slot for it. 
  
def cpowned slot 10 VMPPG5 
  
But when I display cpowned, it show as offline: 
  
q cpowned 
Slot  Vol-ID  Rdev  Type   Status 
   1  VMPRES  1003  OwnOnline and attached 
   2  VMPSPL  1004  OwnOnline and attached 
   3  VMPPAG  1002  OwnOnline and attached 
   4  VMPW01  1005  OwnOnline and attached 
   5  VMPW02  1006  OwnOnline and attached 
   6  VMPPG2  10E5  OwnOnline and attached 
   7  VMPW03  10EF  OwnOnline and attached 
   8  VMPPG3  108F  OwnOnline and attached 
   9  VMPPG4  109C  OwnOnline and attached 
  10  VMPPG5    OwnOffline 
  
However: 
  
q 100c 
DASD 100C VMPAG5   
  
  
So what have I missed? 
  
  
Bobby Bauer
Center for Information Technology
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
301-594-7474 
  


Re: Dynamically adding page space

2011-03-29 Thread Bill Munson
your slot VOLID and your page pack VOLSER are DIFFERENT

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From:   Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E] baue...@mail.nih.gov
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Date:   03/29/2011 09:19 AM
Subject:Re: Dynamically adding page space
Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU



and now for the rest of the email
 
q cpowned 
Slot  Vol-ID  Rdev  Type   Status 
   1  VMPRES  1003  OwnOnline and attached 
   2  VMPSPL  1004  OwnOnline and attached 
   3  VMPPAG  1002  OwnOnline and attached 
   4  VMPW01  1005  OwnOnline and attached 
   5  VMPW02  1006  OwnOnline and attached 
   6  VMPPG2  10E5  OwnOnline and attached 
   7  VMPW03  10EF  OwnOnline and attached 
   8  VMPPG3  108F  OwnOnline and attached 
   9  VMPPG4  109C  OwnOnline and attached 
  10  VMPPG5    OwnOffline 
 
q 100c 
DASD 100C CP SYSTEM VMPAG5   0 
 
 
Bobby Bauer
Center for Information Technology
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
301-594-7474
From: Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:18 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: RE: Dynamically adding page space
 
That would help!
 
I did that but it still didn?t changed the cpowned state
 
 
Bobby Bauer
Center for Information Technology
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
301-594-7474
From: Karl Kingston [mailto:karlkings...@ongov.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:14 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Dynamically adding page space
 
You're missing: 

ATTACH 100C TO SYSTEM 





From:Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E] baue...@mail.nih.gov 
To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 
Date:03/29/2011 09:10 AM 
Subject:Dynamically adding page space 
Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 




I?m trying to dynamically add a page pack to our z/VM system and I?ve got 
a situation that I don?t have in my notes. z/VM 5.4 on a z9 
I?ve formatted the volume (3330-3) as a page volume and defined a cpowned 
slot for it. 
  
def cpowned slot 10 VMPPG5 
  
But when I display cpowned, it show as offline: 
  
q cpowned 
Slot  Vol-ID  Rdev  Type   Status 
   1  VMPRES  1003  OwnOnline and attached 
   2  VMPSPL  1004  OwnOnline and attached 
   3  VMPPAG  1002  OwnOnline and attached 
   4  VMPW01  1005  OwnOnline and attached 
   5  VMPW02  1006  OwnOnline and attached 
   6  VMPPG2  10E5  OwnOnline and attached 
   7  VMPW03  10EF  OwnOnline and attached 
   8  VMPPG3  108F  OwnOnline and attached 
   9  VMPPG4  109C  OwnOnline and attached 
  10  VMPPG5    OwnOffline 
  
However: 
  
q 100c 
DASD 100C VMPAG5   
  
  
So what have I missed? 
  
  
Bobby Bauer
Center for Information Technology
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
301-594-7474 
  


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Re: Dynamically adding page space

2011-03-29 Thread Scott Rohling
Well --   VMPPG5 is not VMPAG5..   relabel 100C to VMPPG5 and maybe it will
go better   ;-)

Scott Rohling

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E] 
baue...@mail.nih.gov wrote:

  and now for the rest of the email



 q cpowned

 Slot  Vol-ID  Rdev  Type   Status

1  VMPRES  1003  OwnOnline and attached

2  VMPSPL  1004  OwnOnline and attached

3  VMPPAG  1002  OwnOnline and attached

4  VMPW01  1005  OwnOnline and attached

5  VMPW02  1006  OwnOnline and attached

6  VMPPG2  10E5  OwnOnline and attached

7  VMPW03  10EF  OwnOnline and attached

8  VMPPG3  108F  OwnOnline and attached

9  VMPPG4  109C  OwnOnline and attached

   10  VMPPG5    OwnOffline



 q 100c

 DASD 100C CP SYSTEM VMPAG5   0





 Bobby Bauer
 Center for Information Technology
 National Institutes of Health
 Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
 301-594-7474

 *From:* Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:18 AM

 *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 *Subject:* RE: Dynamically adding page space



 That would help!



 I did that but it still didn’t changed the cpowned state





 Bobby Bauer
 Center for Information Technology
 National Institutes of Health
 Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
 301-594-7474

 *From:* Karl Kingston [mailto:karlkings...@ongov.net]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:14 AM
 *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 *Subject:* Re: Dynamically adding page space



 You're missing:

 ATTACH 100C TO SYSTEM





 From:Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E] baue...@mail.nih.gov
 To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Date:03/29/2011 09:10 AM
 Subject:Dynamically adding page space
 Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
  --




 I’m trying to dynamically add a page pack to our z/VM system and I’ve got a
 situation that I don’t have in my notes. z/VM 5.4 on a z9
 I’ve formatted the volume (3330-3) as a page volume and defined a cpowned
 slot for it.

 def cpowned slot 10 VMPPG5

 But when I display cpowned, it show as offline:

 q cpowned
 Slot  Vol-ID  Rdev  Type   Status
1  VMPRES  1003  OwnOnline and attached
2  VMPSPL  1004  OwnOnline and attached
3  VMPPAG  1002  OwnOnline and attached
4  VMPW01  1005  OwnOnline and attached
5  VMPW02  1006  OwnOnline and attached
6  VMPPG2  10E5  OwnOnline and attached
7  VMPW03  10EF  OwnOnline and attached
8  VMPPG3  108F  OwnOnline and attached
9  VMPPG4  109C  OwnOnline and attached
   10  VMPPG5    OwnOffline

 However:

 q 100c
 DASD 100C VMPAG5


 So what have I missed?


 Bobby Bauer
 Center for Information Technology
 National Institutes of Health
 Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
 301-594-7474





Re: Dynamically adding page space

2011-03-29 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
3330-3 Really?

 

 

Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.

 

 



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On
Behalf Of Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E]
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 8:11 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Dynamically adding page space

 

I'm trying to dynamically add a page pack to our z/VM system and I've
got a situation that I don't have in my notes. z/VM 5.4 on a z9

I've formatted the volume (3330-3) as a page volume and defined a
cpowned slot for it. 

 

def cpowned slot 10 VMPPG5

 

But when I display cpowned, it show as offline:

 

q cpowned 

Slot  Vol-ID  Rdev  Type   Status 

   1  VMPRES  1003  OwnOnline and attached

   2  VMPSPL  1004  OwnOnline and attached

   3  VMPPAG  1002  OwnOnline and attached

   4  VMPW01  1005  OwnOnline and attached

   5  VMPW02  1006  OwnOnline and attached

   6  VMPPG2  10E5  OwnOnline and attached

   7  VMPW03  10EF  OwnOnline and attached

   8  VMPPG3  108F  OwnOnline and attached

   9  VMPPG4  109C  OwnOnline and attached

  10  VMPPG5    OwnOffline

 

However:

 

q 100c

DASD 100C VMPAG5  

 

 

So what have I missed?

 

 

Bobby Bauer
Center for Information Technology
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
301-594-7474

  


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Re: Dynamically adding page space

2011-03-29 Thread Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E]
Thanks to everybody. Now working as expected

Bobby Bauer
Center for Information Technology
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
301-594-7474
From: Scott Rohling [mailto:scott.rohl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:24 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Dynamically adding page space

Well --   VMPPG5 is not VMPAG5..   relabel 100C to VMPPG5 and maybe it will go 
better   ;-)

Scott Rohling
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E] 
baue...@mail.nih.govmailto:baue...@mail.nih.gov wrote:
and now for the rest of the email

q cpowned
Slot  Vol-ID  Rdev  Type   Status
   1  VMPRES  1003  OwnOnline and attached
   2  VMPSPL  1004  OwnOnline and attached
   3  VMPPAG  1002  OwnOnline and attached
   4  VMPW01  1005  OwnOnline and attached
   5  VMPW02  1006  OwnOnline and attached
   6  VMPPG2  10E5  OwnOnline and attached
   7  VMPW03  10EF  OwnOnline and attached
   8  VMPPG3  108F  OwnOnline and attached
   9  VMPPG4  109C  OwnOnline and attached
  10  VMPPG5    OwnOffline

q 100c
DASD 100C CP SYSTEM VMPAG5   0


Bobby Bauer
Center for Information Technology
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
301-594-7474tel:301-594-7474
From: Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E]
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:18 AM

To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: RE: Dynamically adding page space

That would help!

I did that but it still didn't changed the cpowned state


Bobby Bauer
Center for Information Technology
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
301-594-7474tel:301-594-7474
From: Karl Kingston 
[mailto:karlkings...@ongov.netmailto:karlkings...@ongov.net]
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:14 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Dynamically adding page space

You're missing:

ATTACH 100C TO SYSTEM





From:Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E] 
baue...@mail.nih.govmailto:baue...@mail.nih.gov
To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Date:03/29/2011 09:10 AM
Subject:Dynamically adding page space
Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System 
IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU




I'm trying to dynamically add a page pack to our z/VM system and I've got a 
situation that I don't have in my notes. z/VM 5.4 on a z9
I've formatted the volume (3330-3) as a page volume and defined a cpowned slot 
for it.

def cpowned slot 10 VMPPG5

But when I display cpowned, it show as offline:

q cpowned
Slot  Vol-ID  Rdev  Type   Status
   1  VMPRES  1003  OwnOnline and attached
   2  VMPSPL  1004  OwnOnline and attached
   3  VMPPAG  1002  OwnOnline and attached
   4  VMPW01  1005  OwnOnline and attached
   5  VMPW02  1006  OwnOnline and attached
   6  VMPPG2  10E5  OwnOnline and attached
   7  VMPW03  10EF  OwnOnline and attached
   8  VMPPG3  108F  OwnOnline and attached
   9  VMPPG4  109C  OwnOnline and attached
  10  VMPPG5    OwnOffline

However:

q 100c
DASD 100C VMPAG5


So what have I missed?


Bobby Bauer
Center for Information Technology
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
301-594-7474tel:301-594-7474





Re: Dynamically adding page space

2011-03-29 Thread Lim Ming Liang

Ah, those removable volumes, wonder there was a model 3 for it .
Regards Lim ML

On 29/03/11 9:29 PM, Frank M. Ramaekers wrote:


3330-3 Really?

Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.





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*To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
*Subject:* Dynamically adding page space

I'm trying to dynamically add a page pack to our z/VM system and I've 
got a situation that I don't have in my notes. z/VM 5.4 on a z9


I've formatted the volume (3330-3) as a page volume and defined a 
cpowned slot for it.


def cpowned slot 10 VMPPG5

But when I display cpowned, it show as offline:

q cpowned

Slot  Vol-ID  Rdev  Type   Status

   1  VMPRES  1003  OwnOnline and attached

   2  VMPSPL  1004  OwnOnline and attached

   3  VMPPAG  1002  OwnOnline and attached

   4  VMPW01  1005  OwnOnline and attached

   5  VMPW02  1006  OwnOnline and attached

   6  VMPPG2  10E5  OwnOnline and attached

   7  VMPW03  10EF  OwnOnline and attached

   8  VMPPG3  108F  OwnOnline and attached

   9  VMPPG4  109C  OwnOnline and attached

  10  VMPPG5    OwnOffline

However:

q 100c

DASD 100C VMPAG5

So what have I missed?

Bobby Bauer
Center for Information Technology
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD20892-5628
301-594-7474

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Re: Dynamically adding page space

2011-03-29 Thread gclovis
Bobby:
Volser must match. What is the correct: VMPPG5 or VMPAG5?
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and now for the rest of the email
 
q cpowned 
Slot  Vol-ID  Rdev  Type   Status 
   1  VMPRES  1003  OwnOnline and attached 
   2  VMPSPL  1004  OwnOnline and attached 
   3  VMPPAG  1002  OwnOnline and attached 
   4  VMPW01  1005  OwnOnline and attached 
   5  VMPW02  1006  OwnOnline and attached 
   6  VMPPG2  10E5  OwnOnline and attached 
   7  VMPW03  10EF  OwnOnline and attached 
   8  VMPPG3  108F  OwnOnline and attached 
   9  VMPPG4  109C  OwnOnline and attached 
  10  VMPPG5    OwnOffline 
 
q 100c 
DASD 100C CP SYSTEM VMPAG5   0 
 
 
Bobby Bauer
Center for Information Technology
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
301-594-7474
From: Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:18 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: RE: Dynamically adding page space
 
That would help!
 
I did that but it still didn’t changed the cpowned state
 
 
Bobby Bauer
Center for Information Technology
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
301-594-7474
From: Karl Kingston [mailto:karlkings...@ongov.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:14 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Dynamically adding page space
 
You're missing: 

ATTACH 100C TO SYSTEM 





From:Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E] baue...@mail.nih.gov 
To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 
Date:03/29/2011 09:10 AM 
Subject:Dynamically adding page space 
Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 




I’m trying to dynamically add a page pack to our z/VM system and I’ve got 
a situation that I don’t have in my notes. z/VM 5.4 on a z9 
I’ve formatted the volume (3330-3) as a page volume and defined a cpowned 
slot for it. 
  
def cpowned slot 10 VMPPG5 
  
But when I display cpowned, it show as offline: 
  
q cpowned 
Slot  Vol-ID  Rdev  Type   Status 
   1  VMPRES  1003  OwnOnline and attached 
   2  VMPSPL  1004  OwnOnline and attached 
   3  VMPPAG  1002  OwnOnline and attached 
   4  VMPW01  1005  OwnOnline and attached 
   5  VMPW02  1006  OwnOnline and attached 
   6  VMPPG2  10E5  OwnOnline and attached 
   7  VMPW03  10EF  OwnOnline and attached 
   8  VMPPG3  108F  OwnOnline and attached 
   9  VMPPG4  109C  OwnOnline and attached 
  10  VMPPG5    OwnOffline 
  
However: 
  
q 100c 
DASD 100C VMPAG5   
  
  
So what have I missed? 
  
  
Bobby Bauer
Center for Information Technology
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
301-594-7474 
  




Re: Support Element (SE) vs HMC and IP Addresses

2011-03-29 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
Alan Altmark wrote:
everything an SE can do is possible 
only via Single Object Operations.

So if an SE's IP address can be pinged from the corporate intranet, does 
not that mean anyone from the intranet could do a POR or would the Single 
Object Operations portal stop them?


 




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On Saturday, 03/26/2011 at 05:06 EDT, George Henke/NYLIC 
george_he...@newyorklife.com wrote:
 Also, would someone kindly explain the functional differences between 
the 
 Support Element (SE) and the Hardware Management Console (HMC) other 
than the 
 HMC can: 
 
 do everything an SE can do 
 do it for more than one CEC 
 do it as a portal for the intra/internet 

You've pretty much got it, though everything an SE can do is possible 
only via Single Object Operations.  I would also say that the SE's primary 

job is the run the CPC (CEC).  The HMC's primary job is to talk to you.

Alan Altmark

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Re: Support Element (SE) vs HMC and IP Addresses

2011-03-29 Thread David L. Craig
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 2:33 PM, George Henke/NYLICAlan Altmark wrote:


 So if an SE's IP address can be pinged from the corporate intranet, does
 not that mean anyone from the intranet could do a POR or would the Single
 Object Operations portal stop them?


Doesn't quite sound like Best Practice to me. ;-)
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 You'd better rearrange your beliefs, then.
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Re: Support Element (SE) vs HMC and IP Addresses

2011-03-29 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
I think they's still need a valid user id and password.   (and I believe
that these are NOT sent in the clear.  i.e. HTTPS)

 

 

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Alan Altmark wrote: 
everything an SE can do is possible 
only via Single Object Operations. 

So if an SE's IP address can be pinged from the corporate intranet, does
not that mean anyone from the intranet could do a POR or would the
Single Object Operations portal stop them? 


  




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On Saturday, 03/26/2011 at 05:06 EDT, George Henke/NYLIC 
george_he...@newyorklife.com wrote:
 Also, would someone kindly explain the functional differences between 
the 
 Support Element (SE) and the Hardware Management Console (HMC) other 
than the 
 HMC can: 
 
 do everything an SE can do 
 do it for more than one CEC 
 do it as a portal for the intra/internet   

You've pretty much got it, though everything an SE can do is possible 
only via Single Object Operations.  I would also say that the SE's
primary 
job is the run the CPC (CEC).  The HMC's primary job is to talk to you.

Alan Altmark

z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant
IBM System Lab Services and Training 
ibm.com/systems/services/labservices 
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Re: Support Element (SE) vs HMC and IP Addresses

2011-03-29 Thread David L. Craig
My concerns are all about IBM Support's ability to detect cracking
activity, and worse, ubercracker exploits on a platform crucial to Z
security that the Z customer has no way of even being aware of.  That
goes against my grain and would give me nightmares with the right set
of responsibilities delegated to me by said customer.
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Re: Support Element (SE) vs HMC and IP Addresses

2011-03-29 Thread Feller, Paul
There is a web interface, but I think that only works with the HMC.  I think 
you also have to enable the web interface for it to work.  As an example in our 
environment they do scans for non-compliant software or vulnerability scans.  I 
don't want those type of scans to hit my HMCs or SEs.  That is one of the 
reasons we have a firewall to protect those devices.

Paul Feller
AIT Mainframe Technical Support

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Alan Altmark wrote:
everything an SE can do is possible
only via Single Object Operations.

So if an SE's IP address can be pinged from the corporate intranet, does not 
that mean anyone from the intranet could do a POR or would the Single Object 
Operations portal stop them?





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On Saturday, 03/26/2011 at 05:06 EDT, George Henke/NYLIC
george_he...@newyorklife.com wrote:
 Also, would someone kindly explain the functional differences between
the
 Support Element (SE) and the Hardware Management Console (HMC) other
than the
 HMC can:

 do everything an SE can do
 do it for more than one CEC
 do it as a portal for the intra/internet

You've pretty much got it, though everything an SE can do is possible
only via Single Object Operations.  I would also say that the SE's primary
job is the run the CPC (CEC).  The HMC's primary job is to talk to you.

Alan Altmark

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Re: Support Element (SE) vs HMC and IP Addresses

2011-03-29 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
Dave_Craig__
'So the universe is not quite as you thought it was.
 You'd better rearrange your beliefs, then.
 Because you certainly can't rearrange the universe.'
__--from_Nightfall_by_Asimov/Silverberg

They obviously have not heard of the Anthropic Principle in quantum 
physics which does indeed rearrange the universe.




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On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 2:33 PM, George Henke/NYLICAlan Altmark wrote: 

So if an SE's IP address can be pinged from the corporate intranet, does 
not that mean anyone from the intranet could do a POR or would the Single 
Object Operations portal stop them? 

Doesn't quite sound like Best Practice to me. ;-)
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 You'd better rearrange your beliefs, then.
 Because you certainly can't rearrange the universe.'
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Re: Support Element (SE) vs HMC and IP Addresses

2011-03-29 Thread David L. Craig
But if multiple interests have applied Anthropic technologies... ;-)

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 3:11 PM, George Henke/NYLIC 
george_he...@newyorklife.com wrote:

 Dave_Craig__
 'So the universe is not quite as you thought it was.
  You'd better rearrange your beliefs, then.
  Because you certainly can't rearrange the universe.'
 __--from_Nightfall_by_Asimov/Silverberg

 They obviously have not heard of the Anthropic Principle in quantum
 physics which does indeed rearrange the universe.



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 On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 2:33 PM, George Henke/NYLICAlan Altmark wrote:

 So if an SE's IP address can be pinged from the corporate intranet, does
 not that mean anyone from the intranet could do a POR or would the Single
 Object Operations portal stop them?

 Doesn't quite sound like Best Practice to me. ;-)
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 Dave_Craig__
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  You'd better rearrange your beliefs, then.
  Because you certainly can't rearrange the universe.'
 __--from_Nightfall_by_Asimov/Silverberg




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Re: Support Element (SE) vs HMC and IP Addresses

2011-03-29 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
Check out Dr Aspect, Schroedinger's Cat in the Box,, the tunneling 
effect which must be taken into account for  chips to work.

Then fasten you seat belt because the last I heard Watson Lab's was 
working on atomic memory which itself is based on observer created 
reality.  You know the tree in the forest thing . . . only this time 
there is no sound and it never happened.  Then extrapolate that to the Big 
Bang and voila you have the Anthropic Principle. 


 



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But if multiple interests have applied Anthropic technologies... ;-)

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 3:11 PM, George Henke/NYLIC 
george_he...@newyorklife.com wrote:
Dave_Craig__
'So the universe is not quite as you thought it was.
 You'd better rearrange your beliefs, then.
 Because you certainly can't rearrange the universe.'
__--from_Nightfall_by_Asimov/Silverberg 

They obviously have not heard of the Anthropic Principle in quantum 
physics which does indeed rearrange the universe. 



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On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 2:33 PM, George Henke/NYLICAlan Altmark wrote: 

So if an SE's IP address can be pinged from the corporate intranet, does 
not that mean anyone from the intranet could do a POR or would the Single 
Object Operations portal stop them? 

Doesn't quite sound like Best Practice to me. ;-)
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 You'd better rearrange your beliefs, then.
 Because you certainly can't rearrange the universe.'
__--from_Nightfall_by_Asimov/Silverberg 



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SLES 9 on a z/196?

2011-03-29 Thread Harris, Nick J.
Hello All,

We are curious to know if anyone is running any SLES 9 quests on a z196?  In 
test or production?  With any issues?

It has come to our attention that the minimum requirements for the z196 are 
SLES 10 and 11 but that IBM has tested SLES 9 w/SP4 and it is supported.

TIA!

Nick Harris, FLMI, CLU
 Lead Systems Programmer - Information Systems
 Texas Farm Bureau Insurance Companies
 P. O. Box 2689
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 Phone  254.751.2259
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Re: SLES 9 on a z/196?

2011-03-29 Thread Marcy Cortes
Yes, we are.  In a test environment at the moment.
Under z/VM 5.4 at current maintenance.

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Hello All,

We are curious to know if anyone is running any SLES 9 quests on a z196?  In 
test or production?  With any issues?

It has come to our attention that the minimum requirements for the z196 are 
SLES 10 and 11 but that IBM has tested SLES 9 w/SP4 and it is supported.

TIA!

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Re: Support Element (SE) vs HMC and IP Addresses

2011-03-29 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 03/29/2011 at 02:59 EDT, Frank M. Ramaekers 
framaek...@ailife.com wrote:
 I think they?s still need a valid user id and password.   (and I believe 
that 
 these are NOT sent in the clear.  i.e. HTTPS)

The security of the HMC/SE network is maintained by your use of the Domain 
Security task.  The HMCs and SEs will only talk to other componentry that 
have the same domain name and password.

This is why placing the HMC or SE on an internal network is not the end of 
the world, though Best Practice has other protective devices (firewalls) 
to provide an additional layer of protection.  (They have their own 
built-in firewalls, too.)

Alan Altmark

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Re: Determining Daylight Savings Time Status

2011-03-29 Thread David L. Craig
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 11:05 PM, David L. Craig d...@radix.net wrote:

 On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Mike Walter mike.wal...@aonhewitt.com 
 wrote:

 Has the date been changed again since then?

 Maybe--no one has actually _read_ the ObamaCare law. ;-)  (and you
 cannot check only the Federal Government, too--local politicians also
 like to appear to do stuff that they think appears to matter (and, of
 course, _they_ don't have to implement the stuff).  Sorry, I hope this
 snarkiness is unusual.)


The snarkiness was justified, I see:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/29/chilean_clocks/
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Re: SLES 9 on a z/196?

2011-03-29 Thread Mark Post
 On 3/29/2011 at 05:56 PM, Harris, Nick J. nhar...@txfb-ins.com wrote: 
 Hello All,
 
 We are curious to know if anyone is running any SLES 9 quests on a z196?  In 
 test or production?  With any issues?
 
 It has come to our attention that the minimum requirements for the z196 are 
 SLES 10 and 11 but that IBM has tested SLES 9 w/SP4 and it is supported.

Please reference this web page 
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/linux/resources/testedplatforms.html and 
note the following restrictions:
*  Only OSA2 and OSA3 card are supported by z196. SLES 9 SP4 will work, but 
only for port=0 (so ports 1 (OSA2) and 1,2,3 (OSA3) are not accessible)

* HyperPAV support available since SLES 11, and planned for SLES 10 SP4, is not 
planned for SLES 9 SP4

* CEX3 card hardware exploitation is not available. CEX3 cards work to the 
extent of CEX2 due to an updated device driver in SLES 9 SP4. 

Note also that the statement of support applies only to SLES 9 SP4 + latest 
maintenance updates.  That means, being absolutely up to date with your 
maintenance.

It's time to be moving off of SLES9, folks.  If you're going to pay for all 
that nice new hardware, you might want to be running an OS that can use it.  :)


Mark Post


Re: SLES 9 on a z/196?

2011-03-29 Thread Marcy Cortes
It's hard enough to herd cats and when we finally have them all marching toward 
summer 2011, someone buys a new machine 9 months before that date and moves 
your cheese

Now if it were compiled for later than a z9 maybe it could exploit these shiny 
new boxes better :)

And if we could only get some of those other sw vendors to support sles 11...


Marcy 
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Subject: Re: [IBMVM] SLES 9 on a z/196?

 On 3/29/2011 at 05:56 PM, Harris, Nick J. nhar...@txfb-ins.com wrote: 
 Hello All,
 
 We are curious to know if anyone is running any SLES 9 quests on a z196?  In 
 test or production?  With any issues?
 
 It has come to our attention that the minimum requirements for the z196 are 
 SLES 10 and 11 but that IBM has tested SLES 9 w/SP4 and it is supported.

Please reference this web page 
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/linux/resources/testedplatforms.html and 
note the following restrictions:
*  Only OSA2 and OSA3 card are supported by z196. SLES 9 SP4 will work, but 
only for port=0 (so ports 1 (OSA2) and 1,2,3 (OSA3) are not accessible)

* HyperPAV support available since SLES 11, and planned for SLES 10 SP4, is not 
planned for SLES 9 SP4

* CEX3 card hardware exploitation is not available. CEX3 cards work to the 
extent of CEX2 due to an updated device driver in SLES 9 SP4. 

Note also that the statement of support applies only to SLES 9 SP4 + latest 
maintenance updates.  That means, being absolutely up to date with your 
maintenance.

It's time to be moving off of SLES9, folks.  If you're going to pay for all 
that nice new hardware, you might want to be running an OS that can use it.  :)


Mark Post


Re: SLES 9 on a z/196?

2011-03-29 Thread Mark Post
 On 3/30/2011 at 01:24 AM, Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com 
 wrote: 
 Now if it were compiled for later than a z9 maybe it could exploit these 
 shiny new boxes better :)

I suspect the workload you're running would see little or no improvement if all 
of the OS were recompiled with -march and -mtune set higher.  If your 
middleware were all recompiled, that would likely be very different.

 And if we could only get some of those other sw vendors to support sles 
 11...

Money talks.  Stop paying them to be recalcitrant.  You get the behavior you 
reward.


Mark Post


Re: SLES 9 on a z/196?

2011-03-29 Thread Marcy Cortes
Mark wrote:
I suspect the workload you're running would see little or no improvement if 
all of the OS were recompiled with -march and -mtune set higher.  If your 
middleware were all recompiled, that would likely be very different.

I suspect you are correct (what's new :)..  When a WAS service pack cuts CPU in 
1/2 for a particular app (but only that one for us) , one assumes there might 
be room for improvement...  I think one can contribute all this inefficient 
code to distributed (i.e. I got my own who cares) boxes.  

I can raise the severity of open problems.  I can't change contracts or 
withhold $.  Just not high enough in the food chain ;)  I have be able to fill 
out a vendor report card.. which goes back to contracts... Long cycle though.


Marcy 


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Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 10:30 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: [IBMVM] SLES 9 on a z/196?

 On 3/30/2011 at 01:24 AM, Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com 
 wrote: 
 Now if it were compiled for later than a z9 maybe it could exploit these 
 shiny new boxes better :)

I suspect the workload you're running would see little or no improvement if all 
of the OS were recompiled with -march and -mtune set higher.  If your 
middleware were all recompiled, that would likely be very different.

 And if we could only get some of those other sw vendors to support sles 
 11...

Money talks.  Stop paying them to be recalcitrant.  You get the behavior you 
reward.


Mark Post