Error : DMSITS135S Maximum SVC depth 200 has been exceeded

2011-04-19 Thread Amar Moh
Hi,

We are running VMSERVE, the application server/scheduler on a z/VM CP/CMS
 
system. Recently, it started giving this error every time we make a progr
am 
run through VMSERVE. I am not very experienced in z/VM so any help is 
appreciated!

System : 
z/VM Version 5 Release 2.0, Service Level 0801 (64-bit)
WWVM ESA CMS 15 012

VMSERVE starts fine but as soon as it runs a program, VMSERVE crashes and
 
ends with this error,

DMSITS135S Maximum SVC depth 200 has been exceeded.
DMSITS135S Maximum SVC depth 200 has been exceeded.

It probably means : The CMS system does not allow the nesting level of SV
Cs 
to exceed ''. But not sure what can be done to fix this.

Regards,
Amar


Re: SFS problem

2011-04-19 Thread Graves Nora E
Mike,

Yes, I checked out the message.  The thing is, the job runs nightly, and
only fails intermittently.  There is no reason to believe that the
authority to access the directory is changing during that time period;
there are only 2 people who regularly grant permissions to that user's
directory.   Neither of us has made a change.


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Nora,

Did you issue: HELP DMSOPN1258E

The response from the msg indicates an SFS authorization problem.:
---snip---
(c) Copyright IBM Corporation 1990, 2008  
  
 DMS1258E  You are not authorized|Not authorized|Not permitted to
write 
(to) 
   file fn ft fm|pathname  
  
 Explanation: You attempted to write to a file for which you do not have

write 
 authority, or you attempted to create a new file in a directory for
which 
you 
 do not have write authority.  
  
 System Action: RC=12 or 28. Execution of the command is terminated.  
  
 User Response: Ensure that you specified the correct file. If so,
contact 
the 
 owner to gain proper authorization to the file or directory. If the
file  
 
 specified is an alias, you may enter the QUERY ALIAS command to
determine 
the 
 owner of the base file.  
  
 For a BFS file, enter the OPENVM LISTFILE command with the OWNER option

for 
 the file. This will tell you the owning user ID and group name for the 
file 
 you wish to use. Refer to the z/VM: OpenExtensions Command Reference or

enter 
 HELP OPENVM for more information on the OPENVM commands. 
---snip---

z/VM has a terrific HELP facility (including most messages), it's worth 
investing a bit of time to familiarize yourself with it.

Were you using the VMLINK command in every case with the (FORCERW 
option?  Regardless, check the syntax for your SFS authorizations.

And if all those bazillion intricate SFS authorizations become 
overwhelming, consider checking out SafeSFS from safesfs.com.  We're
vary 
satisfied customers, it makes authorizations much MUCH simpler, saves
huge 
amounts of effort and back time.

Mike Walter
Aon Corporation
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We are having an intermittent problem with SFS and I'm hoping someone
may 
have some ideas of what to pursue next.
 
We have several batch jobs that run under VMBATCH overnight.  Sometimes 
they are not able to create a file in a directory, even though most
times 
it is successful.  The only differences in the executions are the file 
names; for many of these the File Type is the date.
 
In the job I am most familiar with, these are the specifics.
 
The job runs Monday-Saturday.  This year, it has failed on January 4, 
January 12, February 9, March 18, March 25, and April 13.  It has run 
successfully the other days.  Other than the QUERY statements below, it 
has not changed.
The job runs in a work machine, WORK7.
The job is submitted by the User ID of the database owner.
The SFS directories are owned by a 3rd user.  Failures occur in many of 
the subdirectories, not just one subdirectory owned by this user.  This 
user is the owner of most of the directories containing the data files
we 
create in batch, so I don't think it's significant that it's the ID that

has the problem.  However, as far as I know, it is the only ID that does

have the problem.
This job uses VMLINK to acquire a write link to SFS directory.  This 
always looks to be successful--no error is given.  (Other jobs use 
GETFMADDR and ACCESS to acquire the write link to the directory.  This 
always appears successful as well).
Once the file is ready to be copied from the Work Machine's 191 disk to 
the SFS directory, the intermittent error appears.  The vast majority of

the time, the write is successful.  However, sometimes, the job gets
this 
error message: 
DMSOPN1258E You are not authorized to write to file XX 20110413 Z1
 
The file is not large--last night's file was only 12 blocks. 
 
At the suggestion of our systems programmer, I've put in a lot of query 
statements.  I've issued QUERY LIMITS for the job submitter; it's only 
used 84% of the allocation, with several thousand blocks available. The 
SFS directory owner has only used 76% of its allocation, with several 
thousand more blocks still available.  The filepool is not full.
 
I've issued QUERY FILEPOOL CONFLICT.  There is no conflict.
 
I've issued QUERY ACCESSED.  The directory shows that is accessed R/W.
 
When the write is unsuccessful, the program then 

Re: SFS problem

2011-04-19 Thread Graves Nora E
Alan,

The submitter does have NEWRITE permissions.  And nothing in that job
erases the file.  The job runs only once per day, and the File Type is
the date, such as 20110419. 

However, I didn't know that authority to write the file disappeared with
the file if NEWRITE wasn't granted, so I learned something!


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On Thursday, 04/14/2011 at 03:47 EDT, Graves Nora E 
nora.e.gra...@irs.gov wrote:

 DMSOPN1258E You are  not authorized to write to file XX 20110413
Z1
:  
 I've issued QUERY  ACCESSED.  The directory shows that is accessed
R/W.
  
 When the write is  unsuccessful, the program then loops through 5
tries 
of 
 releasing the access,  reacquiring the access, and attempting to write

the file 
 again.   This has never been successful.  I've issued both a COPYFILE 
and a 
 PIPE to try to write the file; these do not work once there has been
a 
failure.
  
 We've looked at the  operator consoles to see if we can find any jobs 
running 
 at the same time.   We haven't found any that are accessing that 
directory 
 structure.
  
 There aren't any  dumps to look at--it looks perfectly successful
other 
than 
 the fact that it  won't write the file.
  
 Does anyone have any  suggestions of something to try next?

As you can see, it's an authorization error.  Does the worker/submittor 
have NEWRITE authority to the directory?  If not, and some part of the
job 
ERASEs the file from the directory and then tries to recreate it, it
will 
fail, as the authority to the file is deleted if the file itself is 
deleted.

In a FILECONTROL directory, R/W access to the directory does not imply
R/W 
access to all the files in it!

Alan Altmark

z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant
IBM System Lab Services and Training 
ibm.com/systems/services/labservices 
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mobile; 607.321.7556
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Re: SFS problem

2011-04-19 Thread Graves Nora E
Kris,
 
The submitter is ABC, the directory owner is XYZ.  The submitter has
WRITE/NEWRITE authority to the directory and files.
 
Nora Graves
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Subject: Re: SFS problem


Note: if you use VMBATCH, the worker machine connects to SFS with the
authority of the job submitter.
You say This user is the owner of most of the directories  You mean:
the submitter is userid ABC, the dirids are all named
fpoolid:ABC.something?


2011/4/14 Graves Nora E nora.e.gra...@irs.gov


We are having an intermittent problem with SFS and I'm hoping
someone may have some ideas of what to pursue next.
 
We have several batch jobs that run under VMBATCH overnight.
Sometimes they are not able to create a file in a directory, even though
most times it is successful.  The only differences in the executions are
the file names; for many of these the File Type is the date.
 
In the job I am most familiar with, these are the specifics.
 
The job runs Monday-Saturday.  This year, it has failed on
January 4, January 12, February 9, March 18, March 25, and April 13.  It
has run successfully the other days.  Other than the QUERY statements
below, it has not changed.
The job runs in a work machine, WORK7.
The job is submitted by the User ID of the database owner.
The SFS directories are owned by a 3rd user.  Failures occur in
many of the subdirectories, not just one subdirectory owned by this
user.  This user is the owner of most of the directories containing the
data files we create in batch, so I don't think it's significant that
it's the ID that has the problem.  However, as far as I know, it is the
only ID that does have the problem.
This job uses VMLINK to acquire a write link to SFS directory.
This always looks to be successful--no error is given.  (Other jobs use
GETFMADDR and ACCESS to acquire the write link to the directory.  This
always appears successful as well).
Once the file is ready to be copied from the Work Machine's 191
disk to the SFS directory, the intermittent error appears.  The vast
majority of the time, the write is successful.  However, sometimes, the
job gets this error message: 
DMSOPN1258E You are not authorized to write to file XX
20110413 Z1
 
The file is not large--last night's file was only 12 blocks.  
 
At the suggestion of our systems programmer, I've put in a lot
of query statements.  I've issued QUERY LIMITS for the job submitter;
it's only used 84% of the allocation, with several thousand blocks
available. The SFS directory owner has only used 76% of its allocation,
with several thousand more blocks still available.  The filepool is not
full.
 
I've issued QUERY FILEPOOL CONFLICT.  There is no conflict.
 
I've issued QUERY ACCESSED.  The directory shows that is
accessed R/W.
 
When the write is unsuccessful, the program then loops through 5
tries of releasing the access, reacquiring the access, and attempting to
write the file again.  This has never been successful.  I've issued both
a COPYFILE and a PIPE to try to write the file; these do not work once
there has been a failure.
 
We've looked at the operator consoles to see if we can find any
jobs running at the same time.  We haven't found any that are accessing
that directory structure.
 
There aren't any dumps to look at--it looks perfectly successful
other than the fact that it won't write the file.
 
Does anyone have any suggestions of something to try next?

 
Nora Graves
nora.e.gra...@irs.gov
 




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Re: SFS problem

2011-04-19 Thread Graves Nora E
Jim,

I didn't think to look there, I will.

Our regular backups are VMBACKUP, which is scheduled to run 90 minutes
after this job runs.  This job runs only 2 minutes maximum, so I know
that isn't the problem. But the SFS console may have some good
indications. I'll see what I can find there.  

Thanks,


Nora Graves
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Nora,

Have you looked at the SFS service machine's console log for any odd
messages?

Could the SFS server being doing some sort of control backup?

Jim Hughes
Consulting Systems Programmer 
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Re: SFS problem

2011-04-19 Thread Graves Nora E
Jim,

There are basically no messages at all in the console for the SFS
service machine.  One of the failures was on April 13.  This is the
console for that day--no editing at all of the contents.

HCPMID6001I  TIME IS 00:00:00 EDT WEDNESDAY 04/13/11  
  
00:00:00  
  
  
HCPMID6001I  TIME IS 00:00:00 EDT THURSDAY 04/14/11   
  
00:00:00  
  
   


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Nora,

Have you looked at the SFS service machine's console log for any odd
messages?

Could the SFS server being doing some sort of control backup?

Jim Hughes
Consulting Systems Programmer 
Mainframe Technical Support Group
Department of Information Technology
State of New Hampshire
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Re: Error : DMSITS135S Maximum SVC depth 200 has been exceeded

2011-04-19 Thread Gentry, Stephen
Amar, we just had this happen on a totally different program.  What was
happening was the user had created an EXEC on there A disk that was
identical to the name on another disk.  When they run their EXEC, it
basically kept calling itself causing recursion and exceeding available
SVC's
So, look for duplicate file names.
Steve

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Subject: Error : DMSITS135S Maximum SVC depth 200 has been exceeded

Hi,

We are running VMSERVE, the application server/scheduler on a z/VM
CP/CMS
 
system. Recently, it started giving this error every time we make a
progr
am 
run through VMSERVE. I am not very experienced in z/VM so any help is 
appreciated!

System : 
z/VM Version 5 Release 2.0, Service Level 0801 (64-bit)
WWVM ESA CMS 15 012

VMSERVE starts fine but as soon as it runs a program, VMSERVE crashes
and
 
ends with this error,

DMSITS135S Maximum SVC depth 200 has been exceeded.
DMSITS135S Maximum SVC depth 200 has been exceeded.

It probably means : The CMS system does not allow the nesting level of
SV
Cs 
to exceed ''. But not sure what can be done to fix this.

Regards,
Amar


Re: Error : DMSITS135S Maximum SVC depth 200 has been exceeded

2011-04-19 Thread Les Koehler
Look at it's log file and console spool file to see what it 
was doing when the error occurred. The message is typical 
for an exec that executes something that executes the exec, 
as Stephen pointed out.


If you've configured VMSERVE properly it is fairly unusual 
for it to suddenly change it's behavior unless a disk it is 
linked to has introduced something new.


Of course this also assumes that all the EXECs that you've 
given it to use follow the Good Rexx Coding Practices rules.


Les

Amar Moh wrote:

Hi,

We are running VMSERVE, the application server/scheduler on a z/VM CP/CMS
 
system. Recently, it started giving this error every time we make a progr
am 
run through VMSERVE. I am not very experienced in z/VM so any help is 
appreciated!


System : 
z/VM Version 5 Release 2.0, Service Level 0801 (64-bit)

WWVM ESA CMS 15 012

VMSERVE starts fine but as soon as it runs a program, VMSERVE crashes and
 
ends with this error,


DMSITS135S Maximum SVC depth 200 has been exceeded.
DMSITS135S Maximum SVC depth 200 has been exceeded.

It probably means : The CMS system does not allow the nesting level of SV
Cs 
to exceed ''. But not sure what can be done to fix this.


Regards,
Amar



Re: SFS problem

2011-04-19 Thread John Hall
Nora,
Batch jobs normally run with the privileges of the owner of the job, using
the SECUSER facility in z/VM.  With SFS, this can lead to unexpected results
when a prior batch job leaves the worker with a connection to the filepool
under a different user's id.  If the job ordering/selection of batch workers
is somewhat random, you could see the outcome that you're experiencing
(sometimes it works, sometimes it fails).

For example:
If WORK7 first runs a job for JOHN and JOHN utilizes the same filepool,
WORK7 could be left with a connection to the filepool that appears to be
from the user JOHN.
If your failing job runs next, it would likely end up accessing the filepool
as JOHN, not as the actual owner, which could cause the failure.

If on another night, WORK7 is recycled before your failing job runs, then it
would establish a connection to the file pool with the owner's ID (say
OWNER) and then would run with the access rights of OWNER, and you'd see
success.

If this is your problem, there are many ways to solve it.  The easiest would
be to ensure that worker machines are recycled (logoff/xautolog or IPL CMS)
prior to the job running.  I wonder if there are VMBATCH options (system or
job) that provide the ability to do a more advanced clean up of a worker
prior to a job run.

John

--
John Hall
Safe Software, Inc.
727-608-8799
johnh...@safesoftware.com


On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Graves Nora E nora.e.gra...@irs.govwrote:

  We are having an intermittent problem with SFS and I'm hoping someone may
 have some ideas of what to pursue next.

 We have several batch jobs that run under VMBATCH overnight.  Sometimes
 they are not able to create a file in a directory, even though most times it
 is successful.  The only differences in the executions are the file names;
 for many of these the File Type is the date.

 In the job I am most familiar with, these are the specifics.

 The job runs Monday-Saturday.  This year, it has failed on January 4,
 January 12, February 9, March 18, March 25, and April 13.  It has run
 successfully the other days.  Other than the QUERY statements below, it has
 not changed.
 The job runs in a work machine, WORK7.
 The job is submitted by the User ID of the database owner.
 The SFS directories are owned by a 3rd user.  Failures occur in many of the
 subdirectories, not just one subdirectory owned by this user.  This user is
 the owner of most of the directories containing the data files we create in
 batch, so I don't think it's significant that it's the ID that has the
 problem.  However, as far as I know, it is the only ID that does have the
 problem.
 This job uses VMLINK to acquire a write link to SFS directory.  This always
 looks to be successful--no error is given.  (Other jobs use GETFMADDR and
 ACCESS to acquire the write link to the directory.  This always
 appears successful as well).
 Once the file is ready to be copied from the Work Machine's 191 disk to the
 SFS directory, the intermittent error appears.  The vast majority of the
 time, the write is successful.  However, sometimes, the job gets this error
 message:
 DMSOPN1258E You are not authorized to write to file XX 20110413 Z1

 The file is not large--last night's file was only 12 blocks.

 At the suggestion of our systems programmer, I've put in a lot of query
 statements.  I've issued QUERY LIMITS for the job submitter; it's only used
 84% of the allocation, with several thousand blocks available. The SFS
 directory owner has only used 76% of its allocation, with several thousand
 more blocks still available.  The filepool is not full.

 I've issued QUERY FILEPOOL CONFLICT.  There is no conflict.

 I've issued QUERY ACCESSED.  The directory shows that is accessed R/W.

 When the write is unsuccessful, the program then loops through 5 tries of
 releasing the access, reacquiring the access, and attempting to write the
 file again.  This has never been successful.  I've issued both a COPYFILE
 and a PIPE to try to write the file; these do not work once there has been a
 failure.

 We've looked at the operator consoles to see if we can find any jobs
 running at the same time.  We haven't found any that are accessing that
 directory structure.

 There aren't any dumps to look at--it looks perfectly successful other than
 the fact that it won't write the file.

 Does anyone have any suggestions of something to try next?


  Nora Graves
 nora.e.gra...@irs.gov




Re: Error : DMSITS135S Maximum SVC depth 200 has been exceeded

2011-04-19 Thread Mike Walter
Amar,

Could you logon to the service machine running VMSERVE, stop VMSERVE, and 
then run the command that was running when you experienced the failure?
If it still fails the same way, you will evidence that VMSERVE is not 
causing the problem, and can look elsewhere. 

An alternative if you don't want to stop VMSERVE: 
from another ID, link to all the disks that VMSERVE has accessed and run 
the same failing command.  If the same failure occurs, you can diagnose, 
correct, and test the solution with affecting VMSERVE, then move the fix 
into production.

Mike Walter
Aon Corporation
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Hi,

We are running VMSERVE, the application server/scheduler on a z/VM CP/CMS 
system. Recently, it started giving this error every time we make a 
program 
run through VMSERVE. I am not very experienced in z/VM so any help is 
appreciated!

System : 
z/VM Version 5 Release 2.0, Service Level 0801 (64-bit)
WWVM ESA CMS 15 012

VMSERVE starts fine but as soon as it runs a program, VMSERVE crashes and 
ends with this error,

DMSITS135S Maximum SVC depth 200 has been exceeded.
DMSITS135S Maximum SVC depth 200 has been exceeded.

It probably means : The CMS system does not allow the nesting level of 
SVCs 
to exceed ''. But not sure what can be done to fix this.

Regards,
Amar






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Re: SFS problem

2011-04-19 Thread Schuh, Richard
Isn't that DIAG 88, instead of SECUSER?


Regards,
Richard Schuh






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Of John Hall
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 6:41 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: SFS problem

Nora,
Batch jobs normally run with the privileges of the owner of the job, using 
the SECUSER facility in z/VM.  With SFS, this can lead to unexpected results 
when a prior batch job leaves the worker with a connection to the filepool 
under a different user's id.  If the job ordering/selection of batch workers is 
somewhat random, you could see the outcome that you're experiencing (sometimes 
it works, sometimes it fails).



Re: SFS problem

2011-04-19 Thread Ethan Lanz
Just to exhaust the possibilities in this line, we have had occasions when a
job would fail for another reason, then be re-submitted by another userid
without the required authority.

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 7:47 AM, Graves Nora E nora.e.gra...@irs.govwrote:

  Kris,

 The submitter is ABC, the directory owner is XYZ.  The submitter has
 WRITE/NEWRITE authority to the directory and files.

  Nora Graves
 nora.e.gra...@irs.gov
 Main IRS, Room 6531
 (202) 622-6735
 Fax (202) 622-3123
 SE:W:CAR:MP:D:KS:BRSI


  --
 *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] *On
 Behalf Of *Kris Buelens
 *Sent:* Thursday, April 14, 2011 4:58 PM

 *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 *Subject:* Re: SFS problem

 Note: if you use VMBATCH, the worker machine connects to SFS with the
 authority of the job submitter.
 You say This user is the owner of most of the directories  You mean: the
 submitter is userid ABC, the dirids are all named fpoolid:ABC.something?


 2011/4/14 Graves Nora E nora.e.gra...@irs.gov

  We are having an intermittent problem with SFS and I'm hoping someone
 may have some ideas of what to pursue next.

 We have several batch jobs that run under VMBATCH overnight.  Sometimes
 they are not able to create a file in a directory, even though most times it
 is successful.  The only differences in the executions are the file names;
 for many of these the File Type is the date.

 In the job I am most familiar with, these are the specifics.

 The job runs Monday-Saturday.  This year, it has failed on January 4,
 January 12, February 9, March 18, March 25, and April 13.  It has run
 successfully the other days.  Other than the QUERY statements below, it has
 not changed.
 The job runs in a work machine, WORK7.
 The job is submitted by the User ID of the database owner.
 The SFS directories are owned by a 3rd user.  Failures occur in many of
 the subdirectories, not just one subdirectory owned by this user.  This user
 is the owner of most of the directories containing the data files we create
 in batch, so I don't think it's significant that it's the ID that has the
 problem.  However, as far as I know, it is the only ID that does have the
 problem.
 This job uses VMLINK to acquire a write link to SFS directory.  This
 always looks to be successful--no error is given.  (Other jobs use GETFMADDR
 and ACCESS to acquire the write link to the directory.  This always
 appears successful as well).
 Once the file is ready to be copied from the Work Machine's 191 disk to
 the SFS directory, the intermittent error appears.  The vast majority of the
 time, the write is successful.  However, sometimes, the job gets this error
 message:
 DMSOPN1258E You are not authorized to write to file XX 20110413 Z1

 The file is not large--last night's file was only 12 blocks.

 At the suggestion of our systems programmer, I've put in a lot of query
 statements.  I've issued QUERY LIMITS for the job submitter; it's only used
 84% of the allocation, with several thousand blocks available. The SFS
 directory owner has only used 76% of its allocation, with several thousand
 more blocks still available.  The filepool is not full.

 I've issued QUERY FILEPOOL CONFLICT.  There is no conflict.

 I've issued QUERY ACCESSED.  The directory shows that is accessed R/W.

 When the write is unsuccessful, the program then loops through 5 tries of
 releasing the access, reacquiring the access, and attempting to write the
 file again.  This has never been successful.  I've issued both a COPYFILE
 and a PIPE to try to write the file; these do not work once there has been a
 failure.

 We've looked at the operator consoles to see if we can find any jobs
 running at the same time.  We haven't found any that are accessing that
 directory structure.

 There aren't any dumps to look at--it looks perfectly successful other
 than the fact that it won't write the file.

 Does anyone have any suggestions of something to try next?


  Nora Graves
 nora.e.gra...@irs.gov





 --
 Kris Buelens,
 IBM Belgium, VM customer support



sclp_config: cpu capability changed.

2011-04-19 Thread Bhemidhi, Ashwin
Hello all ,

I have noticed kernel message Apr 19 12:35:07 hostname kernel: sclp_config: 
cpu capability changed on all of our Linux guest on multiple LPARs. Does this 
indicate a hardware issue with the IFL processor? I have asked our hardware 
support to check for any error on the machine.

Thank you,
Ashwin Bhemidhi




Re: sclp_config: cpu capability changed.

2011-04-19 Thread Quay, Jonathan (IHG)
It could very well mean a hardware issue.  We received this message when
the refrigeration unit in our z10 failed.  The microcode scales back the
processor speed.  For our healthy z10:

 

adczlnxsahqa1:/ # cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/capability

1760 

 



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On
Behalf Of Bhemidhi, Ashwin
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 2:56 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: sclp_config: cpu capability changed.

 

Hello all ,

 

I have noticed kernel message Apr 19 12:35:07 hostname kernel:
sclp_config: cpu capability changed on all of our Linux guest on
multiple LPARs. Does this indicate a hardware issue with the IFL
processor? I have asked our hardware support to check for any error on
the machine. 

 

Thank you,

Ashwin Bhemidhi

 

 



Re: sclp_config: cpu capability changed.

2011-04-19 Thread Bhemidhi, Ashwin
Well, our hardware support said that IBM was replacing  some other failed 
component (not IFL) around the time I noticed those errors. The cpu capability 
on our z10 match what you reported on your z10.
cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/capability
1760

I have asked hardware team to check to see if there are any other errors. 
Hopefully the error was due the hardware maintenance. Thank you for the 
information on your z10.

Regards,
Ashwin

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Quay, Jonathan (IHG)
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 2:19 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: sclp_config: cpu capability changed.

It could very well mean a hardware issue.  We received this message when the 
refrigeration unit in our z10 failed.  The microcode scales back the processor 
speed.  For our healthy z10:

adczlnxsahqa1:/ # cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/capability
1760


From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Bhemidhi, Ashwin
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 2:56 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: sclp_config: cpu capability changed.

Hello all ,

I have noticed kernel message Apr 19 12:35:07 hostname kernel: sclp_config: 
cpu capability changed on all of our Linux guest on multiple LPARs. Does this 
indicate a hardware issue with the IFL processor? I have asked our hardware 
support to check for any error on the machine.

Thank you,
Ashwin Bhemidhi




Re: sclp_config: cpu capability changed.

2011-04-19 Thread David Boyes
What model of CEC? If it's a z10 or a z196, it might be some of the 
power-saving features kicking in. That message can also occur if 
capacity-on-demand has modified the system capability (although it's usually 
rare to see it on a IFL).

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Bhemidhi, Ashwin
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 2:56 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: sclp_config: cpu capability changed.

Hello all ,

I have noticed kernel message Apr 19 12:35:07 hostname kernel: sclp_config: 
cpu capability changed on all of our Linux guest on multiple LPARs. Does this 
indicate a hardware issue with the IFL processor? I have asked our hardware 
support to check for any error on the machine.

Thank you,
Ashwin Bhemidhi




Re: sclp_config: cpu capability changed.

2011-04-19 Thread Bhemidhi, Ashwin
It is a 2097-503 z10.

Regards,
Ashwin


From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf 
Of David Boyes
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 2:33 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: sclp_config: cpu capability changed.

What model of CEC? If it's a z10 or a z196, it might be some of the 
power-saving features kicking in. That message can also occur if 
capacity-on-demand has modified the system capability (although it's usually 
rare to see it on a IFL).

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Bhemidhi, Ashwin
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 2:56 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: sclp_config: cpu capability changed.

Hello all ,

I have noticed kernel message Apr 19 12:35:07 hostname kernel: sclp_config: 
cpu capability changed on all of our Linux guest on multiple LPARs. Does this 
indicate a hardware issue with the IFL processor? I have asked our hardware 
support to check for any error on the machine.

Thank you,
Ashwin Bhemidhi




Minidisk Cache

2011-04-19 Thread Brent Litster

The Planning and Administration Guide for z/VM 6.1 mentions dasd that is not 
eligible for minidisk cache. Is the 3390 mod 54 minidisk cache eligible?
Thanks in advance.
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VMLINK behavior

2011-04-19 Thread Alain Benveniste
I executed this exec :
/**/
VMLINK 5VMDIR40 0491
VMLINK 5VMDIR40 0492
VMLINK 5VMDIR40 011F
VMLINK 5VMDIR40 041F
VMLINK DIRMAINT 01AA
VMLINK DIRMAINT 01FA
VMLINK DIRMAINT 02AA
VMLINK DIRMAINT 0155
VMLINK DIRMAINT 01DF


DMSACC048E Invalid filemode S
Ready(02024); T=0.01/0.01 16:05:35

I received DMSACC048E Invalid filemode S for the VMLINK DIRMAINT 01DF

q disk
LABEL  VDEV M  STAT   CYL TYPE BLKSZ   FILES  BLKS USED-(%) BLKS LEFT  BL
K TOTAL
MNT191 191  A   R/W   175 3390 4096  121   1459-05  30041
  31500
MNT190 190  S   R/O   100 3390 4096  704  15293-85   2707
  18000
DIR155 127  T   R/O 9 3390 4096   10 23-01   1597
   1620
DIR1AA 126  U   R/O 9 3390 40966 13-01   1607
   1620
DRM41F 125  V   R/O 8 3390 4096   50642-45798
   1440
DIR11F 124  W   R/O15 3390 4096   49629-23   2071
   2700
DRM492 121  X   R/O15 3390 4096  269   1490-55   1210
   2700
MNT19E 19E  Y/S R/O   250 3390 4096 1779  38956-87   6044
  45000
DRM491 120  Z   R/O15 3390 4096  259   1410-52   1290
   2700
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 16:05:41

I used the version of vmlink created in september 2010 

Alain Benveniste


Re: VMLINK behavior

2011-04-19 Thread Scott Rohling
Does VMLINK with the NONAMES option cause the same behavior? VMLINK user
disk (NON

I'm not sure about in this case, but NAMES files can sometimes create
problems when using VMLINK - so I tend to use NONames

Scott Rohling

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Alain Benveniste a.benveni...@free.frwrote:

 I executed this exec :
 /**/
 VMLINK 5VMDIR40 0491
 VMLINK 5VMDIR40 0492
 VMLINK 5VMDIR40 011F
 VMLINK 5VMDIR40 041F
 VMLINK DIRMAINT 01AA
 VMLINK DIRMAINT 01FA
 VMLINK DIRMAINT 02AA
 VMLINK DIRMAINT 0155
 VMLINK DIRMAINT 01DF


 DMSACC048E Invalid filemode S
 Ready(02024); T=0.01/0.01 16:05:35

 I received DMSACC048E Invalid filemode S for the VMLINK DIRMAINT 01DF

 q disk
 LABEL  VDEV M  STAT   CYL TYPE BLKSZ   FILES  BLKS USED-(%) BLKS LEFT  BLK
 TOTAL
 MNT191 191  A   R/W   175 3390 4096  121   1459-05  30041
  31500
 MNT190 190  S   R/O   100 3390 4096  704  15293-85   2707
  18000
 DIR155 127  T   R/O 9 3390 4096   10 23-01   1597
 1620
 DIR1AA 126  U   R/O 9 3390 40966 13-01   1607
 1620
 DRM41F 125  V   R/O 8 3390 4096   50642-45798
 1440
 DIR11F 124  W   R/O15 3390 4096   49629-23   2071
 2700
 DRM492 121  X   R/O15 3390 4096  269   1490-55   1210
 2700
 MNT19E 19E  Y/S R/O   250 3390 4096 1779  38956-87   6044
  45000
 DRM491 120  Z   R/O15 3390 4096  259   1410-52   1290
 2700
 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 16:05:41

 I used the version of vmlink created in september 2010

 Alain Benveniste



Re: EXTERNAL: VMLINK behavior

2011-04-19 Thread Hodge, Robert L
Alain,
This looks like the problem described in APAR VM64870. Is VM64870 installed?

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Alain Benveniste
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 2:09 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: EXTERNAL: VMLINK behavior

I executed this exec :
/**/
VMLINK 5VMDIR40 0491
VMLINK 5VMDIR40 0492
VMLINK 5VMDIR40 011F
VMLINK 5VMDIR40 041F
VMLINK DIRMAINT 01AA
VMLINK DIRMAINT 01FA
VMLINK DIRMAINT 02AA
VMLINK DIRMAINT 0155
VMLINK DIRMAINT 01DF


DMSACC048E Invalid filemode S
Ready(02024); T=0.01/0.01 16:05:35

I received DMSACC048E Invalid filemode S for the VMLINK DIRMAINT 01DF

q disk
LABEL  VDEV M  STAT   CYL TYPE BLKSZ   FILES  BLKS USED-(%) BLKS LEFT  BL
K TOTAL
MNT191 191  A   R/W   175 3390 4096  121   1459-05  30041
  31500
MNT190 190  S   R/O   100 3390 4096  704  15293-85   2707
  18000
DIR155 127  T   R/O 9 3390 4096   10 23-01   1597
   1620
DIR1AA 126  U   R/O 9 3390 40966 13-01   1607
   1620
DRM41F 125  V   R/O 8 3390 4096   50642-45798
   1440
DIR11F 124  W   R/O15 3390 4096   49629-23   2071
   2700
DRM492 121  X   R/O15 3390 4096  269   1490-55   1210
   2700
MNT19E 19E  Y/S R/O   250 3390 4096 1779  38956-87   6044
  45000
DRM491 120  Z   R/O15 3390 4096  259   1410-52   1290
   2700
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 16:05:41

I used the version of vmlink created in september 2010 

Alain Benveniste


Re: VMLINK behavior

2011-04-19 Thread Alain Benvéniste
Scott

I will test this tomorrow... And back to tell you...


Le 19/04/11 22:16, « Scott Rohling » scott.rohl...@gmail.com a écrit :

 Does VMLINK with the NONAMES option cause the same behavior?     VMLINK user
 disk (NON
 
 I'm not sure about in this case, but NAMES files can sometimes create problems
 when using VMLINK - so I tend to use NONames 
 
 Scott Rohling
 
 On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Alain Benveniste a.benveni...@free.fr
 wrote:
 I executed this exec :
 /**/
 VMLINK 5VMDIR40 0491
 VMLINK 5VMDIR40 0492
 VMLINK 5VMDIR40 011F
 VMLINK 5VMDIR40 041F
 VMLINK DIRMAINT 01AA
 VMLINK DIRMAINT 01FA
 VMLINK DIRMAINT 02AA
 VMLINK DIRMAINT 0155
 VMLINK DIRMAINT 01DF
 
 
 DMSACC048E Invalid filemode S
 Ready(02024); T=0.01/0.01 16:05:35
 
 I received DMSACC048E Invalid filemode S for the VMLINK DIRMAINT 01DF
 
 q disk
 LABEL  VDEV M  STAT   CYL TYPE BLKSZ   FILES  BLKS USED-(%) BLKS LEFT  BLK
 TOTAL
 MNT191 191  A   R/W   175 3390 4096      121       1459-05      30041    
  31500
 MNT190 190  S   R/O   100 3390 4096      704      15293-85       2707    
  18000
 DIR155 127  T   R/O     9 3390 4096       10         23-01       1597      
 1620
 DIR1AA 126  U   R/O     9 3390 4096        6         13-01       1607      
 1620
 DRM41F 125  V   R/O     8 3390 4096       50        642-45        798      
 1440
 DIR11F 124  W   R/O    15 3390 4096       49        629-23       2071      
 2700
 DRM492 121  X   R/O    15 3390 4096      269       1490-55       1210      
 2700
 MNT19E 19E  Y/S R/O   250 3390 4096     1779      38956-87       6044    
  45000
 DRM491 120  Z   R/O    15 3390 4096      259       1410-52       1290      
 2700
 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 16:05:41
 
 I used the version of vmlink created in september 2010
 
 Alain Benveniste
 
 



Re: RACFVM Resizing mdisk 200 and more...

2011-04-19 Thread Alain Benveniste
I replayed all the process. Just before the racfconv, a verify with racut
200
validated the database integrity. After racfconv, the database is damaged
...

Alain Benveniste


Re: EXTERNAL: VMLINK behavior

2011-04-19 Thread Alain Benvéniste
Robert,

I can't confirm this right now, but if this ptf was in the last RSU from
April 2011 for vm540, so... Yes it is applied...

Alain   


Le 19/04/11 22:27, « Hodge, Robert L » robert.l.ho...@lmco.com a écrit :

 VM64870


Re: VMLINK behavior

2011-04-19 Thread Bruce Hayden
VMLINK shouldn't try to access a disk at filemode S, since the access
command doesn't allow you to access anything at filemode S.  You may
have found a bug.  What level and service level of z/VM are you
running?  Maybe you need APAR VM64870 VMLINK INCORRECTLY DETACHES THE
SYSTEM DISK?  The description doesn't sound correct, but the text
talks about special handling for the S disk.

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Alain Benveniste a.benveni...@free.fr wrote:
 I executed this exec :
 /**/
 VMLINK 5VMDIR40 0491
 VMLINK 5VMDIR40 0492
 VMLINK 5VMDIR40 011F
 VMLINK 5VMDIR40 041F
 VMLINK DIRMAINT 01AA
 VMLINK DIRMAINT 01FA
 VMLINK DIRMAINT 02AA
 VMLINK DIRMAINT 0155
 VMLINK DIRMAINT 01DF


 DMSACC048E Invalid filemode S
 Ready(02024); T=0.01/0.01 16:05:35

 I received DMSACC048E Invalid filemode S for the VMLINK DIRMAINT 01DF

 q disk
 LABEL  VDEV M  STAT   CYL TYPE BLKSZ   FILES  BLKS USED-(%) BLKS LEFT  BLK 
 TOTAL
 MNT191 191  A   R/W   175 3390 4096      121       1459-05      30041      
 31500
 MNT190 190  S   R/O   100 3390 4096      704      15293-85       2707      
 18000
 DIR155 127  T   R/O     9 3390 4096       10         23-01       1597       
 1620
 DIR1AA 126  U   R/O     9 3390 4096        6         13-01       1607       
 1620
 DRM41F 125  V   R/O     8 3390 4096       50        642-45        798       
 1440
 DIR11F 124  W   R/O    15 3390 4096       49        629-23       2071       
 2700
 DRM492 121  X   R/O    15 3390 4096      269       1490-55       1210       
 2700
 MNT19E 19E  Y/S R/O   250 3390 4096     1779      38956-87       6044      
 45000
 DRM491 120  Z   R/O    15 3390 4096      259       1410-52       1290       
 2700
 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 16:05:41

 I used the version of vmlink created in september 2010

 Alain Benveniste




-- 
Bruce Hayden
z/VM and Linux on System z ATS
IBM, Endicott, NY


Re: RACFVM Resizing mdisk 200 and more...

2011-04-19 Thread Bruce Hayden
I'd say a call to the support center is in order...  RACFCONV should
not damage your database.

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Alain Benveniste a.benveni...@free.fr wrote:
 I replayed all the process. Just before the racfconv, a verify with racut200
 validated the database integrity. After racfconv, the database is damaged...

 Alain Benveniste




-- 
Bruce Hayden
z/VM and Linux on System z ATS
IBM, Endicott, NY


Backout PTF(s) applied

2011-04-19 Thread Steve Perez
Hello Listers,

What is the best way/practice to backout a ptf or ptfs that has been 
applied and PUT2PROD?

I am about to apply some service (2 ptfs) to CP and can't seem to find 

what is best way to restore my environment prior to applying the ptfs.  I
 
would prefer not to restore dasd.  It would be preferrable if there is an
 
exec that can revert the affected elements.  

I have heard of VMFREM?  And also heard of not using PUT2PROD but rather 

swap 490 and 190.  

Any assistance or documentation on how to backout a couple of ptfs would 

be appreciated.

Kind Regards,
Steve


Re: EXTERNAL: VMLINK behavior

2011-04-19 Thread Hodge, Robert L
VM64870 is not on a RSU.

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Alain Benvéniste
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 2:39 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: VMLINK behavior

Robert,

I can't confirm this right now, but if this ptf was in the last RSU from
April 2011 for vm540, so... Yes it is applied...

Alain   


Le 19/04/11 22:27, « Hodge, Robert L » robert.l.ho...@lmco.com a écrit :

 VM64870


Re: VMLINK behavior

2011-04-19 Thread Alain Benvéniste
Bruce,

I'm near sure I have reconducted the last vmlink provided - this ptf
included - by the IBM support from my VM530 to my VM540 RSU 1003... now I am
with the rsu 1101 applied.

Alain


Le 19/04/11 22:40, « Bruce Hayden » bjhay...@gmail.com a écrit :

 VMLINK shouldn't try to access a disk at filemode S, since the access
 command doesn't allow you to access anything at filemode S.  You may
 have found a bug.  What level and service level of z/VM are you
 running?  Maybe you need APAR VM64870 VMLINK INCORRECTLY DETACHES THE
 SYSTEM DISK?  The description doesn't sound correct, but the text
 talks about special handling for the S disk.
 
 On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Alain Benveniste a.benveni...@free.fr
 wrote:
 I executed this exec :
 /**/
 VMLINK 5VMDIR40 0491
 VMLINK 5VMDIR40 0492
 VMLINK 5VMDIR40 011F
 VMLINK 5VMDIR40 041F
 VMLINK DIRMAINT 01AA
 VMLINK DIRMAINT 01FA
 VMLINK DIRMAINT 02AA
 VMLINK DIRMAINT 0155
 VMLINK DIRMAINT 01DF
 
 
 DMSACC048E Invalid filemode S
 Ready(02024); T=0.01/0.01 16:05:35
 
 I received DMSACC048E Invalid filemode S for the VMLINK DIRMAINT 01DF
 
 q disk
 LABEL  VDEV M  STAT   CYL TYPE BLKSZ   FILES  BLKS USED-(%) BLKS LEFT  BLK
 TOTAL
 MNT191 191  A   R/W   175 3390 4096      121       1459-05      30041    
  31500
 MNT190 190  S   R/O   100 3390 4096      704      15293-85       2707    
  18000
 DIR155 127  T   R/O     9 3390 4096       10         23-01       1597      
 1620
 DIR1AA 126  U   R/O     9 3390 4096        6         13-01       1607      
 1620
 DRM41F 125  V   R/O     8 3390 4096       50        642-45        798      
 1440
 DIR11F 124  W   R/O    15 3390 4096       49        629-23       2071      
 2700
 DRM492 121  X   R/O    15 3390 4096      269       1490-55       1210      
 2700
 MNT19E 19E  Y/S R/O   250 3390 4096     1779      38956-87       6044    
  45000
 DRM491 120  Z   R/O    15 3390 4096      259       1410-52       1290      
 2700
 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 16:05:41
 
 I used the version of vmlink created in september 2010
 
 Alain Benveniste
 
 
 


Re: VMLINK behavior

2011-04-19 Thread Alain Benvéniste
Bruce

This ptf was for the case where the 190 was detached by vmlink... In my case
i still have it...

Alain


Le 19/04/11 22:40, « Bruce Hayden » bjhay...@gmail.com a écrit :

 VMLINK shouldn't try to access a disk at filemode S, since the access
 command doesn't allow you to access anything at filemode S.  You may
 have found a bug.  What level and service level of z/VM are you
 running?  Maybe you need APAR VM64870 VMLINK INCORRECTLY DETACHES THE
 SYSTEM DISK?  The description doesn't sound correct, but the text
 talks about special handling for the S disk.
 
 On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Alain Benveniste a.benveni...@free.fr
 wrote:
 I executed this exec :
 /**/
 VMLINK 5VMDIR40 0491
 VMLINK 5VMDIR40 0492
 VMLINK 5VMDIR40 011F
 VMLINK 5VMDIR40 041F
 VMLINK DIRMAINT 01AA
 VMLINK DIRMAINT 01FA
 VMLINK DIRMAINT 02AA
 VMLINK DIRMAINT 0155
 VMLINK DIRMAINT 01DF
 
 
 DMSACC048E Invalid filemode S
 Ready(02024); T=0.01/0.01 16:05:35
 
 I received DMSACC048E Invalid filemode S for the VMLINK DIRMAINT 01DF
 
 q disk
 LABEL  VDEV M  STAT   CYL TYPE BLKSZ   FILES  BLKS USED-(%) BLKS LEFT  BLK
 TOTAL
 MNT191 191  A   R/W   175 3390 4096      121       1459-05      30041    
  31500
 MNT190 190  S   R/O   100 3390 4096      704      15293-85       2707    
  18000
 DIR155 127  T   R/O     9 3390 4096       10         23-01       1597      
 1620
 DIR1AA 126  U   R/O     9 3390 4096        6         13-01       1607      
 1620
 DRM41F 125  V   R/O     8 3390 4096       50        642-45        798      
 1440
 DIR11F 124  W   R/O    15 3390 4096       49        629-23       2071      
 2700
 DRM492 121  X   R/O    15 3390 4096      269       1490-55       1210      
 2700
 MNT19E 19E  Y/S R/O   250 3390 4096     1779      38956-87       6044    
  45000
 DRM491 120  Z   R/O    15 3390 4096      259       1410-52       1290      
 2700
 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 16:05:41
 
 I used the version of vmlink created in september 2010
 
 Alain Benveniste
 
 
 


Re: VMLINK behavior

2011-04-19 Thread Doug Breneman

Hi Alain,
Please XEDIT the VMLINK SEXEC S that you have and change:

minidisklist = ''

to

minidisklist = 'S'

and then file it on your A-disk as VMLINK EXEC. Then repeat the failing
scenario. This might patch the problem for you. This is not an official fix
from IBM. I am just trying to help get you past this problem. I agree with
Bruce that this might be a bug and will need to go through the normal
problem reporting process.
pdb (Doug Breneman)
z/VM System Test   IBM   Endicott, NY



From:   Alain Benvéniste a.benveni...@free.fr
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Date:   04/19/2011 04:50 PM
Subject:Re: VMLINK behavior
Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU



Bruce

This ptf was for the case where the 190 was detached by vmlink... In my
case
i still have it...

Alain


Le 19/04/11 22:40, « Bruce Hayden » bjhay...@gmail.com a écrit :

 VMLINK shouldn't try to access a disk at filemode S, since the access
 command doesn't allow you to access anything at filemode S.  You may
 have found a bug.  What level and service level of z/VM are you
 running?  Maybe you need APAR VM64870 VMLINK INCORRECTLY DETACHES THE
 SYSTEM DISK?  The description doesn't sound correct, but the text
 talks about special handling for the S disk.

 On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Alain Benveniste a.benveni...@free.fr
 wrote:
 I executed this exec :
 /**/
 VMLINK 5VMDIR40 0491
 VMLINK 5VMDIR40 0492
 VMLINK 5VMDIR40 011F
 VMLINK 5VMDIR40 041F
 VMLINK DIRMAINT 01AA
 VMLINK DIRMAINT 01FA
 VMLINK DIRMAINT 02AA
 VMLINK DIRMAINT 0155
 VMLINK DIRMAINT 01DF


 DMSACC048E Invalid filemode S
 Ready(02024); T=0.01/0.01 16:05:35

 I received DMSACC048E Invalid filemode S for the VMLINK DIRMAINT 01DF

 q disk
 LABEL  VDEV M  STAT   CYL TYPE BLKSZ   FILES  BLKS USED-(%) BLKS LEFT
BLK
 TOTAL
 MNT191 191  A   R/W   175 3390 4096      121       1459-05      30041

  31500
 MNT190 190  S   R/O   100 3390 4096      704      15293-85       2707

  18000
 DIR155 127  T   R/O     9 3390 4096       10         23-01       1597

 1620
 DIR1AA 126  U   R/O     9 3390 4096        6         13-01       1607

 1620
 DRM41F 125  V   R/O     8 3390 4096       50        642-45        798

 1440
 DIR11F 124  W   R/O    15 3390 4096       49        629-23       2071

 2700
 DRM492 121  X   R/O    15 3390 4096      269       1490-55       1210

 2700
 MNT19E 19E  Y/S R/O   250 3390 4096     1779      38956-87       6044

  45000
 DRM491 120  Z   R/O    15 3390 4096      259       1410-52       1290

 2700
 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 16:05:41

 I used the version of vmlink created in september 2010

 Alain Benveniste





Re: Backout PTF(s) applied

2011-04-19 Thread Perez, Steve S
Thanks, Bill. 

However, I don't think my question(s) were answered in that RED alert unless it 
describes to me how best to backout ptfs applied.  And from reviewing the 
alert, I was not able to find that answer.  And no, I do not have the PTF 
applied that the RED alert indicated.

Thanks for your response.  I will see if others here have feedback or 
experiences here prior to contacting IBM.


Kind Regards,
Steve 



Steve S. Perez
zSeries Technical Services

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Bill Munson
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 3:50 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Backout PTF(s) applied

Steve. 
There is a PTF closed yesterday to fix the RED Alert ptf sent out this morning. 

Call IBM. 

Munson 
 


- Original Message -
From: Steve Perez [sspe...@corelogic.com]
Sent: 04/19/2011 03:43 PM EST
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Backout PTF(s) applied



Hello Listers,

What is the best way/practice to backout a ptf or ptfs that has been applied 
and PUT2PROD?

I am about to apply some service (2 ptfs) to CP and can't seem to find =


what is best way to restore my environment prior to applying the ptfs.  I=

 
would prefer not to restore dasd.  It would be preferrable if there is an=

 
exec that can revert the affected elements.  

I have heard of VMFREM?  And also heard of not using PUT2PROD but rather =


swap 490 and 190.  

Any assistance or documentation on how to backout a couple of ptfs would =


be appreciated.

Kind Regards,
Steve
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Re: Backout PTF(s) applied

2011-04-19 Thread David Boyes
 However, I don't think my question(s) were answered in that RED alert
 unless it describes to me how best to backout ptfs applied.  
 
Call the support center is the best answer. Those folks actually understand SES 
well enough to tell you how to do it without screwing things up. If you don't 
know what all the options to VMFREM actually do, you stand an excellent chance 
of making your system unserviceable. 

That's why the support center gets the big bucks. They live for this stuff. 

-- db

PS - yes, I would like some more koolaid, Mr. Leary. 


Re: Backout PTF(s) applied

2011-04-19 Thread Mike Walter
Steve,

CP does not use the 0190 and 0490 disks... those are the CMS system 
residence volumes.

When you apply service to CP that goes in the CP nucleus (i.e. into the 
CPLOAD MODULE on the MAINT CF1 disk), then you only need to be sure that 
you have a backup copy of the CPLOAD MODULE on the CF1 disk.  Before 
building service (perhaps with the SERVICE command), I manually link the 
MAINT CF1 disk R/W, and COPYFILE CPLOAD MODULE fm -1CPLOAD MODULE fm 
(OLDDATE REPLACE.  IBM's PUT2PROD makes backups, too - but I prefer to 
have something that I know, and where I know it is every time.

If the maintenance causes problems, you just:   SHUTDOWN  REIPL  MODULE 
-1CPLOAD
(FYI, the filetype MUST be MODULE!)

More detail: I actually keep several older copies of the CPLOAD MODULE, 
each time manually bumping their filename higher, as in -1CPLOAD, 
-2CPLOAD, -3CPLOAD, etc. in a manual version of a z/OS GDG dataset name. 
And I keep the a @CPLOAD MODULE which is the CPLOAD MODULE that was on 
the disk when we first brought up that z/VM version. 

Once the -1CPLOAD MODULE has been IPLed you can choose what you want to do 
about backing out the errant CP maintenance.  That's why you pay IBM the 
SS fee, let it be their problem (keeping jobs in the U.S. - maybe!).

Mike Walter
Aon Corporation
The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's.



Steve Perez sspe...@corelogic.com 

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Hello Listers,

What is the best way/practice to backout a ptf or ptfs that has been 
applied and PUT2PROD?

I am about to apply some service (2 ptfs) to CP and can't seem to find 
what is best way to restore my environment prior to applying the ptfs.  I 
would prefer not to restore dasd.  It would be preferrable if there is an 
exec that can revert the affected elements. 

I have heard of VMFREM?  And also heard of not using PUT2PROD but rather 
swap 490 and 190. 

Any assistance or documentation on how to backout a couple of ptfs would 
be appreciated.

Kind Regards,
Steve






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Re: sclp_config: cpu capability changed.

2011-04-19 Thread Les Koehler
Which begs the question: If you're responsible for 
monitoring and resolving such events, why didn't you know 
about the schedule for the hardware maintenance?


Les

David Boyes wrote:

Based on your later message about simultaneous hardware maintenance happening around the 
same time as the capability change happened, that's more likely to be the cause (and 
would explain why you saw it on IFLs - that's one of the few things that would affect 
both CPs and IFLs similarly). If they finished the maintenance, it's probably back to 
normal now (although you should have seen another capability change message 
when the maintenance was finished and everything was back to full speed ahead).

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Bhemidhi, Ashwin
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 3:38 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: sclp_config: cpu capability changed.

It is a 2097-503 z10.

Regards,
Ashwin



Re: VMLINK behavior

2011-04-19 Thread Les Koehler
It probably doesn't make a whole lot of difference here, but 
VMLINK is an EXEC and you aren't following the Good 
Practices for ordinary Rexx execs:


1-Always code Address Command
2-Specify EXEC or CP as appropriate
3-You got this one right: Quote and uppercase commands to 
the underlying system


It's also wise to either check the RC or use Signal On Error.

It may seem meaningless to follow the rules for such a 
trivial piece of code, but the ONE Y2K problem we had on our 
project was because we missed a piece of code that didn't, 
leaving us exposed to synonym resolution and a disk that the 
user had linked and accessed! Had to borrow the user's id at 
2am to find that one :-(


Les

Alain Benveniste wrote:

I executed this exec :
/**/
VMLINK 5VMDIR40 0491
VMLINK 5VMDIR40 0492
VMLINK 5VMDIR40 011F
VMLINK 5VMDIR40 041F
VMLINK DIRMAINT 01AA
VMLINK DIRMAINT 01FA
VMLINK DIRMAINT 02AA
VMLINK DIRMAINT 0155
VMLINK DIRMAINT 01DF


DMSACC048E Invalid filemode S
Ready(02024); T=0.01/0.01 16:05:35

I received DMSACC048E Invalid filemode S for the VMLINK DIRMAINT 01DF

q disk
LABEL  VDEV M  STAT   CYL TYPE BLKSZ   FILES  BLKS USED-(%) BLKS LEFT  BL
K TOTAL
MNT191 191  A   R/W   175 3390 4096  121   1459-05  30041
  31500
MNT190 190  S   R/O   100 3390 4096  704  15293-85   2707
  18000
DIR155 127  T   R/O 9 3390 4096   10 23-01   1597
   1620
DIR1AA 126  U   R/O 9 3390 40966 13-01   1607
   1620
DRM41F 125  V   R/O 8 3390 4096   50642-45798
   1440
DIR11F 124  W   R/O15 3390 4096   49629-23   2071
   2700
DRM492 121  X   R/O15 3390 4096  269   1490-55   1210
   2700
MNT19E 19E  Y/S R/O   250 3390 4096 1779  38956-87   6044
  45000
DRM491 120  Z   R/O15 3390 4096  259   1410-52   1290
   2700

Ready; T=0.01/0.01 16:05:41

I used the version of vmlink created in september 2010 


Alain Benveniste