Re: Time off running z/VM 5.4 1101 on z196 for first time
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 8:54 PM, David Boyes dbo...@sinenomine.net wrote: How come Z hardware doesn't come with one of these? 8-) Because the machines are mostly installed in places where you don't have sufficiently open sky to receive GPS... Similar concerns prevented usage of the radio beacons that feed consumer grade automatic clocks. And you probably experienced once in a while that your navigation system was off by far... you would need to harden the signal seriously. It's amazing how complicated it gets when you want to make it reliable enough to hook up to the mainframe. PS Found an imitation railroad clock using the radio beacon that deliberately is slow so you can see it adjust at the full minute :-)
Re: Time off running z/VM 5.4 1101 on z196 for first time
Could be! I retired in 2004 and had joined IBM as an electronics technician in 1966. I still knew how to use them when I first became a programmer and fell in love with VM. Les Mike Walter wrote: How 'bout this then: there's nobody left at IBM who knows how to use a soldering iron (or an oscilliscope)? ;-)~ Mike Walter Sent from the wee keyboard of a Blackberry. From: Scott Rohling [mailto:scott.rohl...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 04:45 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Time off running z/VM 5.4 1101 on z196 for first time I tried not to - but this made me laugh very loud... Scott Rohling On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Mark Post mp...@novell.commailto:mp...@novell.com wrote: On 8/2/2011 at 02:54 PM, David Boyes dbo...@sinenomine.netmailto:dbo...@sinenomine.net wrote: How come Z hardware doesn't come with one of these? 8-) Because it costs less than $100? Mark Post
Re: MONVU REXX required but not packaged?(#2011-190)
Daniel, sounds like you found it. For others, MONVU and a few other friends are included in the CMS samples. Look for a MONVIEW readme on that disk for more details. Bill Bitner - z/VM Customer Focus and Care - IBM Endicott - 607-429-3286
Re: Time off running z/VM 5.4 1101 on z196 for first time
On Wed, 3 Aug 2011 08:36:21 +0200, Rob van der Heij rvdh...@gmail.com w rote: On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 8:54 PM, David Boyes dbo...@sinenomine.net wrot e: How come Z hardware doesn't come with one of these? 8-) Because the machines are mostly installed in places where you don't have sufficiently open sky to receive GPS... Similar concerns prevented usage of the radio beacons that feed consumer grade automatic clocks. And you probably experienced once in a while that your navigation system was off by far... you would need to harden the signal seriously. It's amazing how complicated it gets when you want to make it reliable enough to hook up to the mainframe. I actually used a 25-foot extension of CAT-3 cable to the 18-foot factory installed cable when I made mine because I was anticipating the need to potentially mount it outdoors. Turned out that was needless. It receive s quite well in my conventional wood frame house without a view of the sky while sitting atop my desk. More cable would be feasible. (Others have u sed a skylight and put the puck in the skylight.) It only needs five volts th us the beauty and simplicity of using USB for power only. If the cable was s o long that voltage drop off happened, then I'm sure that could be easily overcome. Sure, some mainframe systems are located in, umm, certain dee p underground facilities in the western USA. I think that mostly installed in places that cannot receive GPS is too harsh. I visited TONS of customer shops with windows or top floor machine rooms in my career. The bunker installs are not the only world of installed mainframes. ;-) Because the GPS in this usage is a stationary receiver (I do not drive my desk around the house like Conan O'brien does with his on his tv show), t he navigation fix is constant unless experiencing an earthquake. The navigation fix provided by the satellites allow the time to be determined and delivered, and *that* further allow the GPS to deliver the pulse-per-second signal because it knows when the second boundary crosses . GPSD gets the signal through the serial cable and notifies NTPD via a sha red memory segment. It doesn't get any faster than that for me. Microseconds precision. If nothing else, my desktop equipped with this can be a stratum one NTP t ime source for all of the other systems on my LAN with the shortest possible network delay. I could even open it up to the pool.ntp.org pool of serve rs if I cared to do that. Others who have built these have actually done tha t. -- Gary Eheman Fundamental Software, Inc.
SHARE Orlando - LVM Program Dinner Invitation - It's not too late!
It's not too late to join the SHARE LVM Program group for dinner, so if you have been thinking about it but thought it might be too late, now is your chance to go for it! See below for details... Jim Moling LVM Project Officer - Forwarded by James Moling/IR/FMS on 08/03/2011 10:31 AM - James Moling/IR/FMS 07/21/2011 07:59 PM To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject SHARE Orlando - LVM Program Dinner Invitation Greetings from the SHARE LVM Program group! We would like to invite anyone who may be interested in meeting with us and learning more about the Linux and VM Program at SHARE to join us for dinner during the next SHARE conference, which is being held in Orlando, Florida. The dinner is scheduled for Wednesday evening, August 10, from 6pm to 9pm at the Kimonos Restaurant, which is located in the Disney Swan Resort Hotel (right next to the Dolphin resort where the SHARE conference is being held). For your convenience, please note that Kimonos will accept individual checks so long as you let them know beforehand. You can learn more about Kimonos (menu, pricing, etc) at the following URL: http://www.swandolphinrestaurants.com/kimonos If you are interested in joining us for dinner and finding out how much fun our group is, then please forward this email to the LVM Dinner coordinator at the following address (if more than one person is being requested, please indicate how many): james.mol...@fms.treas.gov We have a limited number of seats and will accept requests on a first come, first served basis, so get your request in soon! Looking forward to seeing you at Kimonos, Jim Moling LVM Project Officer - This E-mail and its attachments (if any) are intended solely for the use of the addressee(s) and may contain sensitive but unclassified information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this E-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy the E-mail and any attachments.
Re: SHARE Orlando - LVM Program Dinner Invitation - It's not too late!
Jim, I would like to join your group for dinner if you still have room. Thanks, Mark Workman Shelter Insurance Companies 573.214.4672 mwork...@shelterinsurance.com From: Jim Moling james.mol...@fms.treas.gov To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 08/03/2011 09:38 AM Subject:SHARE Orlando - LVM Program Dinner Invitation - It's not too late! Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU It's not too late to join the SHARE LVM Program group for dinner, so if you have been thinking about it but thought it might be too late, now is your chance to go for it! See below for details... Jim Moling LVM Project Officer - Forwarded by James Moling/IR/FMS on 08/03/2011 10:31 AM - James Moling/IR/FMS 07/21/2011 07:59 PM To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject SHARE Orlando - LVM Program Dinner Invitation Greetings from the SHARE LVM Program group! We would like to invite anyone who may be interested in meeting with us and learning more about the Linux and VM Program at SHARE to join us for dinner during the next SHARE conference, which is being held in Orlando, Florida. The dinner is scheduled for Wednesday evening, August 10, from 6pm to 9pm at the Kimonos Restaurant, which is located in the Disney Swan Resort Hotel (right next to the Dolphin resort where the SHARE conference is being held). For your convenience, please note that Kimonos will accept individual checks so long as you let them know beforehand. You can learn more about Kimonos (menu, pricing, etc) at the following URL: http://www.swandolphinrestaurants.com/kimonos If you are interested in joining us for dinner and finding out how much fun our group is, then please forward this email to the LVM Dinner coordinator at the following address (if more than one person is being requested, please indicate how many): james.mol...@fms.treas.gov We have a limited number of seats and will accept requests on a first come, first served basis, so get your request in soon! Looking forward to seeing you at Kimonos, Jim Moling LVM Project Officer - This E-mail and its attachments (if any) are intended solely for the use of the addressee(s) and may contain sensitive but unclassified information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this E-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy the E-mail and any attachments. This e-mail is intended only for its addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mailing postmas...@shelterinsurance.com; then delete the original message.
Re: VM Workshop -- Locations
If you are interested in location selection, I'd suggest contacting Bill Munson to get on next year's committee. You can see from the thread, everyone has some thoughts about it. This year's committee met the day before the event to discuss next year's options. That's one of the reasons it's important to have good representation on the committee. Several locations were considered, including some of those mentioned here. The list also included Washington State, Michigan State, Richmond, Austin, U. of RI, Chicago, Boston, SUNY Binghamton, Penn State etc.. This is how we selected OSU for 2011 and it was agreed that we should at least consider the following when selecting the next location(s): 1.) Inexpensive (relatively speaking) to get there. Not just to the airport, but from the airport to the campus. 2.) University locations only (non-commercial/corporate) to avoid/neutralize conflicts of some sort. 3.) Towards the center of the country to avoid losing attendees from the opposite coast. 4.) Airport relatively close to the campus (like less than 30 minutes if possible) 5.) Excellent Facilities at a reasonable price. Each attending committee member had 2 votes (first and second choice). U. of Kentucky, OSU, and U. of Nebraska (Omaha campus) took the top 3 votes in that order. Bill's 2012 committee is already working on these for next year. It's not always possible to get the dates, price, etc, which is the reason for the backups. BTW, Rice, UT(Austin), Michigan State, U of Arkansas, UMKC, were also on the short list. So plenty of options were on the table. I hope this helps. Len In a message dated 8/2/2011 6:11:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ric...@panix.com writes: On: Tue, Aug 02, 2011 at 01:44:33PM -0500,David Boyes Wrote: } University of Wisconsin would be a good choice for next year... Strong VM ties (TCP/IP) there too. } Madison is one of my favorite places in the US, but it tends to be hard to get to cheaply (cheap is a big factor for Workshop). Current discussion has University of Kentucky as top candidate, Ohio State again, or University of Nebraska, but I'd go to Madison in a heartbeat. Nothing fixed in stone yet - we gotta go out and check it out -but UK did some awesome Workshops in the past. Those folks know how to throw a party - the BBQ at the last one was legendary. } In order not to derail this list, I'd strongly encourage anyone who's interested in VM Workshop to sign up for the VMWKSHOP mailing list (at vm.marist.edu). Better yet, volunteer! Gets you free shirt, first shot at the beer, fame... well, at least for lots of tech dudes. 8-) Please also consider furthur south so I could go. Mabe Orlando. Is there a VM using school in south Florida? -- Rich Greenberg Sarasota, FL, USA richgr atsign panix.com + 1 941 378 2097 Eastern time. N6LRT I speak for myself my dogs only.VM'er since CP-67 Canines: Val, Red, Shasta, Zero Casey (At the bridge) Owner:Chinook-L Canines: Red Cinnar (Siberians) Retired at the beach Asst Owner:Sibernet-L
SSL Configuration on z/VM 6.1
I am trying to decipher the instructions for setting up the PROFILE TCPIP and SYSTEM DTCPARMS statements for the telnet and ftp servers to use SSL. Anyone willing to share their config. information? Thank you, Betsy Jeffery
Re: VM Workshop -- Locations
I was not able to attend this year due to a scheduling conflict. I was wondering, if it is not a secret, about how many did manage to attend? On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Len Diegel ldie...@aol.com wrote: ** If you are interested in location selection, I'd suggest contacting Bill Munson to get on next year's committee. You can see from the thread, everyone has some thoughts about it. This year's committee met the day before the event to discuss next year's options. That's one of the reasons it's important to have good representation on the committee. Several locations were considered, including some of those mentioned here. The list also included Washington State, Michigan State, Richmond, Austin, U. of RI, Chicago, Boston, SUNY Binghamton, Penn State etc.. This is how we selected OSU for 2011 and it was agreed that we should at least consider the following when selecting the next location(s): 1.) Inexpensive (relatively speaking) to get there. Not just to the airport, but from the airport to the campus. 2.) University locations only (non-commercial/corporate) to avoid/neutralize conflicts of some sort. 3.) Towards the center of the country to avoid losing attendees from the opposite coast. 4.) Airport relatively close to the campus (like less than 30 minutes if possible) 5.) Excellent Facilities at a reasonable price. Each attending committee member had 2 votes (first and second choice). U. of Kentucky, OSU, and U. of Nebraska (Omaha campus) took the top 3 votes in that order. Bill's 2012 committee is already working on these for next year. It's not always possible to get the dates, price, etc, which is the reason for the backups. BTW, Rice, UT(Austin), Michigan State, U of Arkansas, UMKC, were also on the short list. So plenty of options were on the table. I hope this helps. Len In a message dated 8/2/2011 6:11:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ric...@panix.com writes: On: Tue, Aug 02, 2011 at 01:44:33PM -0500,David Boyes Wrote: } University of Wisconsin would be a good choice for next year... Strong VM ties (TCP/IP) there too. } Madison is one of my favorite places in the US, but it tends to be hard to get to cheaply (cheap is a big factor for Workshop). Current discussion has University of Kentucky as top candidate, Ohio State again, or University of Nebraska, but I'd go to Madison in a heartbeat. Nothing fixed in stone yet - we gotta go out and check it out -but UK did some awesome Workshops in the past. Those folks know how to throw a party - the BBQ at the last one was legendary. } In order not to derail this list, I'd strongly encourage anyone who's interested in VM Workshop to sign up for the VMWKSHOP mailing list (at vm.marist.edu). Better yet, volunteer! Gets you free shirt, first shot at the beer, fame... well, at least for lots of tech dudes. 8-) Please also consider furthur south so I could go. Mabe Orlando. Is there a VM using school in south Florida? -- Rich Greenberg Sarasota, FL, USA richgr atsign panix.com + 1 941 378 2097 Eastern time. N6LRT I speak for myself my dogs only.VM'er since CP-67 Canines: Val, Red, Shasta, Zero Casey (At the bridge) Owner:Chinook-L Canines: Red Cinnar (Siberians) Retired at the beach Asst Owner:Sibernet-L
Re: anyone running ILMT?
Thanks Leland! I will post back the definitive answers when we get our questions answered about those parameters. Marcy -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Leland Lucius Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 4:47 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] anyone running ILMT? We run it on all of our platforms and do manual scans everywhere since it provides more control than the scan groups. As far as z goes, we use Operations Manager to kick off a few scans at a time so as not to bog down the LPARs and we only do it monthly. The scripts also knows about which filesystems to scan and which ones to bypass and adjusts tlmagent.ini before the scan. I know this can be done in the server itself, but it's just easier to let each platforms script manage it since the respective groups know what's happening on their servers the best. Another thing we do is drop the cache on each server after the scan completes. The first time we let the ILMT server do the scan automatically, the person that set it up put all of the zLinux servers in one scan group and they all kicked off at once. z/VM paging went totally bonkers due to memory overcommit (3 to 1 if I remember correctly). I maintain the ILMT server now. :-) Also, in case you want to manage it via scan groups, check into the lmtcli.sh command as it will allow you to automatically assign servers to different scan groups (and a lot more). I have a script that runs daily and checks for anything in the DEFAULT group (we assign all new servers to DEFAULT) and reassigns them to the correct groups using the command. Since we do manual scans, the scan groups don't do much for us except for reporting and I have a script that runs monthly to check for invalid/missing scans and emails a report to the correct group. The notifications built in to the ILMT server don't really provide a way to do that (not that I could find anyway). Anyway...just some tidbits on how we roll. :-) Leland And no, I never did figure out exactly how to configure the capacity values so if you do I'd be might grateful if you'd pass on the info.
Re: VM Workshop -- Locations
Has the VM Workshop replaced WAVV? Jim On 8/3/2011 12:20 PM, Tom Huegel wrote: --000e0ce0d6b0d0875404a99c3e9a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I was not able to attend this year due to a scheduling conflict. I was wondering, if it is not a secret, about how many did manage to attend? On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Len Diegelldie...@aol.com wrote: ** If you are interested in location selection, I'd suggest contacting Bill Munson to get on next year's committee. You can see from the thread, everyone has some thoughts about it. This year's committee met the day before the event to discuss next year's options. That's one of the reasons it's important to have good representation on the committee. Several locations were considered, including some of those mentioned here. The list also included Washington State, Michigan State, Richmond, Austin, U. of RI, Chicago, Boston, SUNY Binghamton, Penn State etc.. This is how we selected OSU for 2011 and it was agreed that we should at least consider the following when selecting the next location(s): 1.) Inexpensive (relatively speaking) to get there. Not just to the airport, but from the airport to the campus. 2.) University locations only (non-commercial/corporate) to avoid/neutralize conflicts of some sort. 3.) Towards the center of the country to avoid losing attendees from the opposite coast. 4.) Airport relatively close to the campus (like less than 30 minutes if possible) 5.) Excellent Facilities at a reasonable price. Each attending committee member had 2 votes (first and second choice). U. of Kentucky, OSU, and U. of Nebraska (Omaha campus) took the top 3 votes in that order. Bill's 2012 committee is already working on these for next year. It's not always possible to get the dates, price, etc, which is the reason for the backups. BTW, Rice, UT(Austin), Michigan State, U of Arkansas, UMKC, were also on the short list. So plenty of options were on the table. I hope this helps. Len In a message dated 8/2/2011 6:11:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ric...@panix.com writes: On: Tue, Aug 02, 2011 at 01:44:33PM -0500,David Boyes Wrote: } University of Wisconsin would be a good choice for next year... Strong VM ties (TCP/IP) there too. } Madison is one of my favorite places in the US, but it tends to be hard to get to cheaply (cheap is a big factor for Workshop). Current discussion has University of Kentucky as top candidate, Ohio State again, or University of Nebraska, but I'd go to Madison in a heartbeat. Nothing fixed in stone yet - we gotta go out and check it out -but UK did some awesome Workshops in the past. Those folks know how to throw a party - the BBQ at the last one was legendary. } In order not to derail this list, I'd strongly encourage anyone who's interested in VM Workshop to sign up for the VMWKSHOP mailing list (at vm.marist.edu). Better yet, volunteer! Gets you free shirt, first shot at the beer, fame... well, at least for lots of tech dudes. 8-) Please also consider furthur south so I could go. Mabe Orlando. Is there a VM using school in south Florida? -- Rich Greenberg Sarasota, FL, USA richgr atsign panix.com + 1 941 378 2097 Eastern time. N6LRT I speak for myself my dogs only.VM'er since CP-67 Canines: Val, Red, Shasta, Zero Casey (At the bridge) Owner:Chinook-L Canines: Red Cinnar (Siberians) Retired at the beach Asst Owner:Sibernet-L --000e0ce0d6b0d0875404a99c3e9a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable divI was not able to attend this year due to a scheduling conflict./div divI was wondering, if it is not a secret, about how many did manage to a= ttend?=A0brbr/div div class=3Dgmail_quoteOn Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Len Diegelspan= dir=3Dltrlt;a href=3Dmailto:ldie...@aol.com;ldie...@aol.com/agt;= /span wrote:br blockquote style=3DBORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex= ; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex class=3Dgmail_quoteu/u div style=3DFONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #00; FONT-SIZE: 10ptfont co= lor=3D#00 size=3D2 face=3DArial div=A0/div divIf you are interested in location selection, I#39;d suggest contactin= g Bill Munson to get on next year#39;s committee.=A0 You can see from the = thread,=A0everyone has some thoughts about it.=A0 This year#39;s=A0committ= ee met the day before the event to discuss next year#39;s options.=A0 That= #39;s one of the reasons it#39;s important to have good representation on= the committee.=A0=A0Several locations were considered, including some of t= hose mentioned here. The list also=A0included Washington State, Michigan St= ate, Richmond, Austin, U. of RI,=A0Chicago, Boston, SUNY Binghamton, Penn S= tate=A0etc..=A0This is how we selected OSU for=A02011 and it was agreed tha= t we should at least consider the following when selecting the next locatio= n(s):/div div1.)=A0 Inexpensive (relatively speaking) to get there.=A0 Not just to = the airport, but=A0from the airport to=A0the
Re: SSL Configuration on z/VM 6.1
On Wednesday, 08/03/2011 at 12:05 EDT, Betsy Jeffery betsy_jeff...@mgic.com wrote: I am trying to decipher the instructions for setting up the PROFILE TCPIP and SYSTEM DTCPARMS statements for the telnet and ftp servers to use SSL. Anyone willing to share their config. information? Please make sure you follow instructions at http://www.vm.ibm.com/related/tcpip/vmsslinf.html. Do not use the information in the book since APARs (see web page) have updated that information. ADVISORY: The latest z/VM 6.1 RSU contains the SSL server upgrade package. If you apply the RSU, you will have to perform migration of your SSL configuration. The next z/VM 5.4 RSU will also have it. Alan Altmark Senior Managing z/VM and Linux Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
WAVV Re: VM Workshop -- Locations
ABSOLUTELY NOT WAVV is still going strong munson 201-418-7588 From: Jim Bohnsack jab...@cornell.edu To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 08/03/2011 12:52 PM Subject:Re: VM Workshop -- Locations Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Has the VM Workshop replaced WAVV? Jim On 8/3/2011 12:20 PM, Tom Huegel wrote: --000e0ce0d6b0d0875404a99c3e9a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I was not able to attend this year due to a scheduling conflict. I was wondering, if it is not a secret, about how many did manage to attend? On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Len Diegelldie...@aol.com wrote: ** If you are interested in location selection, I'd suggest contacting Bill Munson to get on next year's committee. You can see from the thread, everyone has some thoughts about it. This year's committee met the day before the event to discuss next year's options. That's one of the reasons it's important to have good representation on the committee. Several locations were considered, including some of those mentioned here. The list also included Washington State, Michigan State, Richmond, Austin, U. of RI, Chicago, Boston, SUNY Binghamton, Penn State etc.. This is how we selected OSU for 2011 and it was agreed that we should at least consider the following when selecting the next location(s): 1.) Inexpensive (relatively speaking) to get there. Not just to the airport, but from the airport to the campus. 2.) University locations only (non-commercial/corporate) to avoid/neutralize conflicts of some sort. 3.) Towards the center of the country to avoid losing attendees from the opposite coast. 4.) Airport relatively close to the campus (like less than 30 minutes if possible) 5.) Excellent Facilities at a reasonable price. Each attending committee member had 2 votes (first and second choice). U. of Kentucky, OSU, and U. of Nebraska (Omaha campus) took the top 3 votes in that order. Bill's 2012 committee is already working on these for next year. It's not always possible to get the dates, price, etc, which is the reason for the backups. BTW, Rice, UT(Austin), Michigan State, U of Arkansas, UMKC, were also on the short list. So plenty of options were on the table. I hope this helps. Len In a message dated 8/2/2011 6:11:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ric...@panix.com writes: On: Tue, Aug 02, 2011 at 01:44:33PM -0500,David Boyes Wrote: } University of Wisconsin would be a good choice for next year... Strong VM ties (TCP/IP) there too. } Madison is one of my favorite places in the US, but it tends to be hard to get to cheaply (cheap is a big factor for Workshop). Current discussion has University of Kentucky as top candidate, Ohio State again, or University of Nebraska, but I'd go to Madison in a heartbeat. Nothing fixed in stone yet - we gotta go out and check it out -but UK did some awesome Workshops in the past. Those folks know how to throw a party - the BBQ at the last one was legendary. } In order not to derail this list, I'd strongly encourage anyone who's interested in VM Workshop to sign up for the VMWKSHOP mailing list (at vm.marist.edu). Better yet, volunteer! Gets you free shirt, first shot at the beer, fame... well, at least for lots of tech dudes. 8-) Please also consider furthur south so I could go. Mabe Orlando. Is there a VM using school in south Florida? -- Rich Greenberg Sarasota, FL, USA richgr atsign panix.com + 1 941 378 2097 Eastern time. N6LRT I speak for myself my dogs only.VM'er since CP-67 Canines: Val, Red, Shasta, Zero Casey (At the bridge) Owner:Chinook-L Canines: Red Cinnar (Siberians) Retired at the beach Asst Owner:Sibernet-L --000e0ce0d6b0d0875404a99c3e9a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable divI was not able to attend this year due to a scheduling conflict./div divI was wondering, if it is not a secret, about how many did manage to a= ttend?=A0brbr/div div class=3Dgmail_quoteOn Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Len Diegelspan= dir=3Dltrlt;a href=3Dmailto:ldie...@aol.com ldie...@aol.com/agt;= /span wrote:br blockquote style=3DBORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex= ; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex class=3Dgmail_quoteu/u div style=3DFONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #00; FONT-SIZE: 10ptfont co= lor=3D#00 size=3D2 face=3DArial div=A0/div divIf you are interested in location selection, I#39;d suggest contactin= g Bill Munson to get on next year#39;s committee.=A0 You can see from the = thread,=A0everyone has some thoughts about it.=A0 This year#39;s=A0committ= ee met the day before the event to discuss next year#39;s options.=A0 That= #39;s one of the reasons it#39;s important to have good representation on= the committee.=A0=A0Several locations were considered, including some of t= hose mentioned here. The list
Re: WAVV Re: VM Workshop -- Locations
I concur with Bill. I might have shouted louder by bolding ABSOLUTELY NOT. WAVV has excellent presentations, many IBM presentations are the same and given by the same people that present at SHARE and IBM tech conference. WAVV is not restricted to z/VM and z/LINUX. It also has a third track for z/VSE. See website www.wavv.org WAVV fees are $400 for 3 ½ days of full sessions. Starting Friday evening with SPLASH and finishing Tuesday at noon. I was really hoping to go to the VM workshop this year but the timing, long weekend in CANADA, prevented me. Im looking forward to attend the VM workshop next year, hopefully in June, but I will still be attending WAVV. Hans From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Bill Munson Sent: August-03-11 1:02 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: WAVV Re: VM Workshop -- Locations ABSOLUTELY NOT WAVV is still going strong munson 201-418-7588 From:Jim Bohnsack jab...@cornell.edu To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:08/03/2011 12:52 PM Subject:Re: VM Workshop -- Locations Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU _ Has the VM Workshop replaced WAVV? Jim On 8/3/2011 12:20 PM, Tom Huegel wrote: --000e0ce0d6b0d0875404a99c3e9a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I was not able to attend this year due to a scheduling conflict. I was wondering, if it is not a secret, about how many did manage to attend? On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Len Diegelldie...@aol.com wrote: ** If you are interested in location selection, I'd suggest contacting Bill Munson to get on next year's committee. You can see from the thread, everyone has some thoughts about it. This year's committee met the day before the event to discuss next year's options. That's one of the reasons it's important to have good representation on the committee. Several locations were considered, including some of those mentioned here. The list also included Washington State, Michigan State, Richmond, Austin, U. of RI, Chicago, Boston, SUNY Binghamton, Penn State etc.. This is how we selected OSU for 2011 and it was agreed that we should at least consider the following when selecting the next location(s): 1.) Inexpensive (relatively speaking) to get there. Not just to the airport, but from the airport to the campus. 2.) University locations only (non-commercial/corporate) to avoid/neutralize conflicts of some sort. 3.) Towards the center of the country to avoid losing attendees from the opposite coast. 4.) Airport relatively close to the campus (like less than 30 minutes if possible) 5.) Excellent Facilities at a reasonable price. Each attending committee member had 2 votes (first and second choice). U. of Kentucky, OSU, and U. of Nebraska (Omaha campus) took the top 3 votes in that order. Bill's 2012 committee is already working on these for next year. It's not always possible to get the dates, price, etc, which is the reason for the backups. BTW, Rice, UT(Austin), Michigan State, U of Arkansas, UMKC, were also on the short list. So plenty of options were on the table. I hope this helps. Len In a message dated 8/2/2011 6:11:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ric...@panix.com writes: On: Tue, Aug 02, 2011 at 01:44:33PM -0500,David Boyes Wrote: } University of Wisconsin would be a good choice for next year... Strong VM ties (TCP/IP) there too. } Madison is one of my favorite places in the US, but it tends to be hard to get to cheaply (cheap is a big factor for Workshop). Current discussion has University of Kentucky as top candidate, Ohio State again, or University of Nebraska, but I'd go to Madison in a heartbeat. Nothing fixed in stone yet - we gotta go out and check it out -but UK did some awesome Workshops in the past. Those folks know how to throw a party - the BBQ at the last one was legendary. } In order not to derail this list, I'd strongly encourage anyone who's interested in VM Workshop to sign up for the VMWKSHOP mailing list (at vm.marist.edu). Better yet, volunteer! Gets you free shirt, first shot at the beer, fame... well, at least for lots of tech dudes. 8-) Please also consider furthur south so I could go. Mabe Orlando. Is there a VM using school in south Florida? -- Rich Greenberg Sarasota, FL, USA richgr atsign panix.com + 1 941 378 2097 Eastern time. N6LRT I speak for myself my dogs only.VM'er since CP-67 Canines: Val, Red, Shasta, Zero Casey (At the bridge) Owner:Chinook-L Canines: Red Cinnar (Siberians) Retired at the beach Asst Owner:Sibernet-L --000e0ce0d6b0d0875404a99c3e9a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable divI was not able to attend this year due to a scheduling conflict./div divI was wondering, if it is not a secret, about how many did manage to a= ttend?=A0brbr/div div
Re: SSL Configuration on z/VM 6.1
I just set this up last month on our test system. Here's what I had to add/change: In PROFILE TCPIP: PORT ... 23 TCP INTCLIEN SECURE TCPIPTST; TELNET SERVER ... (after PORT statements) SSLSERVERID SSLSERV TIMEOUT 60 --- In SYSTEM.DTCPARMS: nick.SSLSERV :type.SERVER :class.ssl :Owner.TCPMAINT :Admin_ID_List.MAINT snip :Timezone.EST5EDT :Mixedcaseparms. -- Note that in the PROFILE statements TCPIPTST is my certificate name in the key system. On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Betsy Jeffery betsy_jeff...@mgic.comwrote: I am trying to decipher the instructions for setting up the PROFILE TCPIP and SYSTEM DTCPARMS statements for the telnet and ftp servers to use SSL. Anyone willing to share their config. information? Thank you, Betsy Jeffery
Re: VM Workshop -- Locations
Has the VM Workshop replaced WAVV? Jim That's an open question. WAVV is still going to happen this year, but with Bernie Pugh gone, the future of WAVV is kind of uncertain. The WAVV admin list has been mucho silent recently. -- db
Re: VM Workshop -- Locations
Yes, Bennie will be missed, but there are many ready to help fill his shoes. The WAVV admin list is always 'quiet' this time of year. It picks up about September when we start discussing the next event. Tony Thigpen -Original Message - From: David Boyes Sent: 08/03/2011 01:44 PM Has the VM Workshop replaced WAVV? Jim That's an open question. WAVV is still going to happen this year, but with Bernie Pugh gone, the future of WAVV is kind of uncertain. The WAVV admin list has been mucho silent recently. -- db
Re: VM Workshop -- Locations
I agree with Bill. The VM Workshops were around when SHARE and GUIDE did their thing and before WAVV was formed. It wasn't an either/or in those days, nor is it today. We brought the VM Workshop back to fill a need for VMers. Easy, inexpensive education, and an opportunity to hang out with VMers to discuss topics specifically relevant to the VM space. It seems to be working. I know a lot of us are looking forward to the next WAVV and we will all miss hanging out with Bennie. Regards, Len In a message dated 8/3/2011 11:51:32 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jab...@cornell.edu writes: Has the VM Workshop replaced WAVV? Jim On 8/3/2011 12:20 PM, Tom Huegel wrote: --000e0ce0d6b0d0875404a99c3e9a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I was not able to attend this year due to a scheduling conflict. I was wondering, if it is not a secret, about how many did manage to attend? On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Len Diegelldie...@aol.com wrote: ** If you are interested in location selection, I'd suggest contacting Bill Munson to get on next year's committee. You can see from the thread, everyone has some thoughts about it. This year's committee met the day before the event to discuss next year's options. That's one of the reasons it's important to have good representation on the committee. Several locations were considered, including some of those mentioned here. The list also included Washington State, Michigan State, Richmond, Austin, U. of RI, Chicago, Boston, SUNY Binghamton, Penn State etc.. This is how we selected OSU for 2011 and it was agreed that we should at least consider the following when selecting the next location(s): 1.) Inexpensive (relatively speaking) to get there. Not just to the airport, but from the airport to the campus. 2.) University locations only (non-commercial/corporate) to avoid/neutralize conflicts of some sort. 3.) Towards the center of the country to avoid losing attendees from the opposite coast. 4.) Airport relatively close to the campus (like less than 30 minutes if possible) 5.) Excellent Facilities at a reasonable price. Each attending committee member had 2 votes (first and second choice). U. of Kentucky, OSU, and U. of Nebraska (Omaha campus) took the top 3 votes in that order. Bill's 2012 committee is already working on these for next year. It's not always possible to get the dates, price, etc, which is the reason for the backups. BTW, Rice, UT(Austin), Michigan State, U of Arkansas, UMKC, were also on the short list. So plenty of options were on the table. I hope this helps. Len In a message dated 8/2/2011 6:11:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ric...@panix.com writes: On: Tue, Aug 02, 2011 at 01:44:33PM -0500,David Boyes Wrote: } University of Wisconsin would be a good choice for next year... Strong VM ties (TCP/IP) there too. } Madison is one of my favorite places in the US, but it tends to be hard to get to cheaply (cheap is a big factor for Workshop). Current discussion has University of Kentucky as top candidate, Ohio State again, or University of Nebraska, but I'd go to Madison in a heartbeat. Nothing fixed in stone yet - we gotta go out and check it out -but UK did some awesome Workshops in the past. Those folks know how to throw a party - the BBQ at the last one was legendary. } In order not to derail this list, I'd strongly encourage anyone who's interested in VM Workshop to sign up for the VMWKSHOP mailing list (at vm.marist.edu). Better yet, volunteer! Gets you free shirt, first shot at the beer, fame... well, at least for lots of tech dudes. 8-) Please also consider furthur south so I could go. Mabe Orlando. Is there a VM using school in south Florida? -- Rich Greenberg Sarasota, FL, USA richgr atsign panix.com + 1 941 378 2097 Eastern time. N6LRT I speak for myself my dogs only.VM'er since CP-67 Canines: Val, Red, Shasta, Zero Casey (At the bridge) Owner:Chinook-L Canines: Red Cinnar (Siberians) Retired at the beach Asst Owner:Sibernet-L --000e0ce0d6b0d0875404a99c3e9a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable divI was not able to attend this year due to a scheduling conflict./div divI was wondering, if it is not a secret, about how many did manage to a= ttend?=A0 /div div class=3Dgmail_quoteOn Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Len Diegelspan= dir=3Dltrlt;_LDiegel@aol.com_ (mip://10dc9568/3Dmailto:ldie...@aol.com;) gt;= /span wrote: blockquote style=3DBORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex= ; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex class=3Dgmail_quote div style=3DFONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #00; FONT-SIZE: 10pt lor=3D#00 size=3D2 face=3DArial div=A0/div divIf you are interested in location selection, I#39;d suggest contactin= g Bill Munson to get on next
Re: VM Workshop -- Locations
Ditto that Charles G From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 2:25 PM To: ldie...@aol.com; Charles Grady; IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM Workshop -- Locations I agree with Bill. The VM Workshops were around when SHARE and GUIDE did their thing and before WAVV was formed. It wasn't an either/or in those days, nor is it today. We brought the VM Workshop back to fill a need for VMers. Easy, inexpensive education, and an opportunity to hang out with VMers to discuss topics specifically relevant to the VM space. It seems to be working. I know a lot of us are looking forward to the next WAVV and we will all miss hanging out with Bennie. Regards, Len In a message dated 8/3/2011 11:51:32 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jab...@cornell.edu writes: Has the VM Workshop replaced WAVV? Jim On 8/3/2011 12:20 PM, Tom Huegel wrote: --000e0ce0d6b0d0875404a99c3e9a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I was not able to attend this year due to a scheduling conflict. I was wondering, if it is not a secret, about how many did manage to attend? On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Len Diegelldie...@aol.com wrote: ** If you are interested in location selection, I'd suggest contacting Bill Munson to get on next year's committee. You can see from the thread, everyone has some thoughts about it. This year's committee met the day before the event to discuss next year's options. That's one of the reasons it's important to have good representation on the committee. Several locations were considered, including some of those mentioned here. The list also included Washington State, Michigan State, Richmond, Austin, U. of RI, Chicago, Boston, SUNY Binghamton, Penn State etc.. This is how we selected OSU for 2011 and it was agreed that we should at least consider the following when selecting the next location(s): 1.) Inexpensive (relatively speaking) to get there. Not just to the airport, but from the airport to the campus. 2.) University locations only (non-commercial/corporate) to avoid/neutralize conflicts of some sort. 3.) Towards the center of the country to avoid losing attendees from the opposite coast. 4.) Airport relatively close to the campus (like less than 30 minutes if possible) 5.) Excellent Facilities at a reasonable price. Each attending committee member had 2 votes (first and second choice). U. of Kentucky, OSU, and U. of Nebraska (Omaha campus) took the top 3 votes in that order. Bill's 2012 committee is already working on these for next year. It's not always possible to get the dates, price, etc, which is the reason for the backups. BTW, Rice, UT(Austin), Michigan State, U of Arkansas, UMKC, were also on the short list. So plenty of options were on the table. I hope this helps. Len In a message dated 8/2/2011 6:11:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ric...@panix.com writes: On: Tue, Aug 02, 2011 at 01:44:33PM -0500,David Boyes Wrote: } University of Wisconsin would be a good choice for next year... Strong VM ties (TCP/IP) there too. } Madison is one of my favorite places in the US, but it tends to be hard to get to cheaply (cheap is a big factor for Workshop). Current discussion has University of Kentucky as top candidate, Ohio State again, or University of Nebraska, but I'd go to Madison in a heartbeat. Nothing fixed in stone yet - we gotta go out and check it out -but UK did some awesome Workshops in the past. Those folks know how to throw a party - the BBQ at the last one was legendary. } In order not to derail this list, I'd strongly encourage anyone who's interested in VM Workshop to sign up for the VMWKSHOP mailing list (at vm.marist.edu). Better yet, volunteer! Gets you free shirt, first shot at the beer, fame... well, at least for lots of tech dudes. 8-) Please also consider furthur south so I could go. Mabe Orlando. Is there a VM using school in south Florida? -- Rich Greenberg Sarasota, FL, USA richgr atsign panix.com + 1 941 378 2097 Eastern time. N6LRT I speak for myself my dogs only.VM'er since CP-67 Canines: Val, Red, Shasta, Zero Casey (At the bridge) Owner:Chinook-L Canines: Red Cinnar (Siberians) Retired at the beach Asst Owner:Sibernet-L --000e0ce0d6b0d0875404a99c3e9a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable divI was not able to attend this year due to a scheduling conflict./div divI was wondering, if it is not a secret, about how many did manage to a= ttend?=A0 /div div class=3Dgmail_quoteOn Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Len Diegelspan= dir=3Dltrlt;ldie...@aol.commip://10dc9568/3D%22mailto:ldie...@aol.com%22gt;= /span wrote: blockquote style=3DBORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex= ; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex class=3Dgmail_quote div style=3DFONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #00; FONT-SIZE: 10pt lor=3D#00 size=3D2 face=3DArial
Re: A call for people to chair sessions.
To those of you who z/VM'ers and LoZ'ers attending SHARE in Orlando next week, but who have not yet volunteered to chair any sessions: chairing is a huge help to the all-volunteer members who pull these terrific SHARE conferences together. Those volunteers are run pretty ragged during the week and could really use your help, your expertise on the session's subject matter does not matter - if you are attending a session, you qualify to act as a session chair! Chairing sessions is really quite simple, and there's even a brief session on Sunday evening explaining that simple process. Being able to stand in front of a friendly crowd to introduce the speaker, and being able to count as high as the total number of people in the room at the start of, and mid-way through the session is pretty much all that's required. You are permitted to count on your fingers, and for larger sessions, even use your toes!. :) Chairing affords you the opportunity to form personal relationships with some of the z/VM, Linux on System z, and SHARE-leadership shakers and movers. A pretty nice payback for a very simple task. Mike Walter Aon Corporation The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Jagos, Brian V Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 12:51 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: A call for people to chair sessions. Hello to everyone, we are in the final run. As you know SHARE is just a few days away. So as you can see we still have some good session left. So please jump in and take a few. Session Title Day Date and Time Room Chair People Current Future State of Red Hat Enterprise Linux Monday 2011-08-08, 11:00:00 Oceanic 7 Bradford E. Hinson (Speaker) Managing SAN for Linux on z/VM - a Nationwide perspective Monday 2011-08-08, 13:30:00 Oceanic 8 James Vincent (Speaker) Getting Started with RACF on z/VM Monday 2011-08-08, 16:30:00 Oceanic 6 Bruce Hayden (Speaker) Introduction to VM Hands-on Lab, Part 1 of 2 Tuesday 2011-08-09, 09:30:00 Asia 2 Martha McConaghy (Speaker) CA z/VM Products New Releases and Future Roadmap Tuesday 2011-08-09, 09:30:00 Oceanic 8 Brian Jagos (Speaker) Introduction to VM Hands-on Lab - Part 2 of 2 Tuesday 2011-08-09, 11:00:00 Asia 2 Martha McConaghy (Speaker) User Experience with DataMart on Linux for System z at FMS Tuesday 2011-08-09, 13:30:00 Oceanic 6 Jim Moling (Speaker) z/VM System Limits Wednesday 2011-08-10, 13:30:00 Oceanic 6 Bill Bitner (Speaker) Using CA eTrust Top Secret to authenticate users on zLinux Wednesday 2011-08-10, 15:00:00 Oceanic 6 James Chaplin (Speaker) zEnterprise Unified Resource Manager: What's in it for z/VM? Wednesday 2011-08-10, 15:00:00 Oceanic 7 Scott Loveland (Speaker) z/VM and Tape Encryption Wednesday 2011-08-10, 16:30:00 Oceanic 8 Eric Farman (Speaker) Cloud Computing with IBM System z Thursday 2011-08-11, 08:00:00 Oceanic 7 Erich Amrehn (Speaker) Using z/VM in a SCSI Environment Thursday 2011-08-11, 09:30:00 Oceanic 8 Eric Farman (Speaker) Advanced Configuration and Auditing with RACF on z/VM Thursday 2011-08-11, 15:00:00 Oceanic 6 Bruce Hayden (Speaker) z/VM Parallel Access Volumes (PAV) and HyperPAV Support Thursday 2011-08-11, 15:00:00 Oceanic 8 Eric Farman (Speaker) Linux System Management for the Mainframe System Programmer - Part 2 of 2 Thursday 2011-08-11, 15:00:00 Southern Hemisphere 1/2 Mark Post (Speaker) Mainframe Optimization: Making System z the Center of Enterprise Computing Thursday 2011-08-11, 16:30:00 Oceanic 6 Mark Neft (Speaker) Running Linux on System z as a z/VM Guest: Useful Things to Know Thursday 2011-08-11, 16:30:00 Southern Hemisphere 1/2 Hans-Joachim Picht (Speaker) Dynamic Routing: Exploiting both HiperSockets and Real Network Devices Friday 2011-08-12, 08:00:00 Oceanic 6 Robert (Jay) J. Brenneman (Speaker) TCP/IP Performance Management in a Virtualized Environment Friday 2011-08-12, 08:00:00 Oceanic 7 Laura Knapp (Speaker) The Penguins Have Landed - Changes and Improvements with Linux on System z at Shelter Insurance Friday 2011-08-12, 08:00:00 Oceanic 8 Mark Workman (Speaker) Saving Your Bacon: Recovering from Common Linux System Startup Failures Friday 2011-08-12, 09:30:00 Oceanic 6 Mark Post (Speaker) Thank you; Brian Jagos TSO Principal Consultant z/OS z/VM Linux for System z Phone: (631) 342 - 6523 [cid:image001.gif@01CC51E4.6487B370]http://www.ca.com/
Re: How to get Operator Log
Hello, Our MVS Guest's crash abruptly, the only message about it's reason is in zVM's Operator's Log, because these MVS are running under. Can anybody help me, how to see MVS colsole log and Operator log under zVM, so that I can check the reason for MVS crashes. Sorry, if I am posting this problem in the wrong forum. -- Thanks Regards Saurabh Khandelwal -- Thanks Regards Saurabh Khandelwal
Re: How to get Operator Log
Saurabh, If your MVS virtual machine is also your MVS operator's console and it's running in 3270 mode, there is no z/VM - CP log for this console. However, for your OPERATOR virtual machine which should have console spooling started and is a 3215 device type - you can either logon to OPERATOR and issue the command - 'SPOOL CONS CLOSE CL A TO *|USERID. Or if you are logged on to the MAINT virtual machine, issue this command - 'FOR OPERATOR CMD CP SPOOL CONS CLOSE CL A TO MAINT'. This will close the OPERATOR's console log and send it to MAINT's virtual reader where you can either RECEIVE it or just PEEK it. As to MVS, when you re-IPL the system, you should still have the SYSLOG file from the crash as either your current SYSLOG file or it's on the SPOOL volume where you can offload it to a disk data set. Hope this helps. Raymond E. Noal EMC² where information lives Phone: (508) 249-4076 Ext: 44076 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of saurabh khandelwal Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 3:23 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: How to get Operator Log Hello, Our MVS Guest's crash abruptly, the only message about it's reason is in zVM's Operator's Log, because these MVS are running under. Can anybody help me, how to see MVS colsole log and Operator log under zVM, so that I can check the reason for MVS crashes. Sorry, if I am posting this problem in the wrong forum. -- Thanks Regards Saurabh Khandelwal -- Thanks Regards Saurabh Khandelwal
Re: How to get Operator Log
Saurabh, This is a good forum for that question. Before doing anything else, it might also be handy to display the PSW on the MVS virtual machine userid. There could be an important Wait State which could help with your diagnosis. Try entering from that MVS ID: CP Display PSWG Or if you cannot logon to that MVS ID, send the command from MAINT using command: CP SEND CP mvs_userid D PSWG Mike Walter Aon Corporation The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Raymond Noal Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 2:58 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: How to get Operator Log Saurabh, If your MVS virtual machine is also your MVS operator's console and it's running in 3270 mode, there is no z/VM - CP log for this console. However, for your OPERATOR virtual machine which should have console spooling started and is a 3215 device type - you can either logon to OPERATOR and issue the command - 'SPOOL CONS CLOSE CL A TO *|USERID. Or if you are logged on to the MAINT virtual machine, issue this command - 'FOR OPERATOR CMD CP SPOOL CONS CLOSE CL A TO MAINT'. This will close the OPERATOR's console log and send it to MAINT's virtual reader where you can either RECEIVE it or just PEEK it. As to MVS, when you re-IPL the system, you should still have the SYSLOG file from the crash as either your current SYSLOG file or it's on the SPOOL volume where you can offload it to a disk data set. Hope this helps. Raymond E. Noal EMC² where information lives Phone: (508) 249-4076 Ext: 44076 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of saurabh khandelwal Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 3:23 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: How to get Operator Log Hello, Our MVS Guest's crash abruptly, the only message about it's reason is in zVM's Operator's Log, because these MVS are running under. Can anybody help me, how to see MVS colsole log and Operator log under zVM, so that I can check the reason for MVS crashes. Sorry, if I am posting this problem in the wrong forum. -- Thanks Regards Saurabh Khandelwal -- Thanks Regards Saurabh Khandelwal
Re: SSL Configuration on z/VM 6.1
I experimented with those parameters but had no success with them in place (I still have the commented line in my profile for when I get bored). I believe the SECURE on the port definition forces it - I know for a fact that I cannot connect to the system without SSL enabled in my client (and a forced port definition of 23 - we use the RUMBA client here and it seems to assume that SSL should travel over some other, unspecified port). On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Betsy Jeffery betsy_jeff...@mgic.comwrote: Thanks. You didn't have to add any INTERNALCLIENTPARMS in the PROFILE TCPIP? How did you override the SECURECONNECTION NEVER default for port 23?
Re: WAVV Re: VM Workshop -- Locations
Hello Everyone, Now that I am over to the z/OS side, I wish that the z/OS people had something as good as WAVV. The lectures at WAVV are verbal IBM REDBOOKS.Hands on with people that have actually done the work. Ed Martin Aultman Health Foundation 330-363-5050 Ext 35050 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Hans Rempel Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 1:35 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: WAVV Re: VM Workshop -- Locations I concur with Bill. I might have shouted louder by bolding ABSOLUTELY NOT. WAVV has excellent presentations, many IBM presentations are the same and given by the same people that present at SHARE and IBM tech conference. WAVV is not restricted to z/VM and z/LINUX. It also has a third track for z/VSE. See website www.wavv.org WAVV fees are $400 for 3 ½ days of full sessions. Starting Friday evening with SPLASH and finishing Tuesday at noon. I was really hoping to go to the VM workshop this year but the timing, long weekend in CANADA, prevented me. I'm looking forward to attend the VM workshop next year, hopefully in June, but I will still be attending WAVV. Hans From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Bill Munson Sent: August-03-11 1:02 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: WAVV Re: VM Workshop -- Locations ABSOLUTELY NOT WAVV is still going strong munson 201-418-7588 From:Jim Bohnsack jab...@cornell.edu To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:08/03/2011 12:52 PM Subject:Re: VM Workshop -- Locations Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Has the VM Workshop replaced WAVV? Jim On 8/3/2011 12:20 PM, Tom Huegel wrote: --000e0ce0d6b0d0875404a99c3e9a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I was not able to attend this year due to a scheduling conflict. I was wondering, if it is not a secret, about how many did manage to attend? On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Len Diegelldie...@aol.com wrote: ** If you are interested in location selection, I'd suggest contacting Bill Munson to get on next year's committee. You can see from the thread, everyone has some thoughts about it. This year's committee met the day before the event to discuss next year's options. That's one of the reasons it's important to have good representation on the committee. Several locations were considered, including some of those mentioned here. The list also included Washington State, Michigan State, Richmond, Austin, U. of RI, Chicago, Boston, SUNY Binghamton, Penn State etc.. This is how we selected OSU for 2011 and it was agreed that we should at least consider the following when selecting the next location(s): 1.) Inexpensive (relatively speaking) to get there. Not just to the airport, but from the airport to the campus. 2.) University locations only (non-commercial/corporate) to avoid/neutralize conflicts of some sort. 3.) Towards the center of the country to avoid losing attendees from the opposite coast. 4.) Airport relatively close to the campus (like less than 30 minutes if possible) 5.) Excellent Facilities at a reasonable price. Each attending committee member had 2 votes (first and second choice). U. of Kentucky, OSU, and U. of Nebraska (Omaha campus) took the top 3 votes in that order. Bill's 2012 committee is already working on these for next year. It's not always possible to get the dates, price, etc, which is the reason for the backups. BTW, Rice, UT(Austin), Michigan State, U of Arkansas, UMKC, were also on the short list. So plenty of options were on the table. I hope this helps. Len In a message dated 8/2/2011 6:11:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ric...@panix.com writes: On: Tue, Aug 02, 2011 at 01:44:33PM -0500,David Boyes Wrote: } University of Wisconsin would be a good choice for next year... Strong VM ties (TCP/IP) there too. } Madison is one of my favorite places in the US, but it tends to be hard to get to cheaply (cheap is a big factor for Workshop). Current discussion has University of Kentucky as top candidate, Ohio State again, or University of Nebraska, but I'd go to Madison in a heartbeat. Nothing fixed in stone yet - we gotta go out and check it out -but UK did some awesome Workshops in the past. Those folks know how to throw a party - the BBQ at the last one was legendary. } In order not to derail this list, I'd strongly encourage anyone who's interested in VM Workshop to sign up for the VMWKSHOP mailing list (at vm.marist.edu). Better yet, volunteer! Gets you free shirt, first shot at the beer, fame... well, at least for lots of tech dudes. 8-) Please also consider furthur south so I could go. Mabe Orlando. Is there a VM using school in south Florida? -- Rich Greenberg Sarasota, FL, USA richgr atsign panix.com + 1 941 378
Re: WAVV Re: VM Workshop -- Locations
Well, Ed. there *is* a very active z/OS program at SHARE. The next SHARE is next week (beginning Sunday evening August 7, at Disneyworld). SHARE is not as cheap as WAVV, nor the VM Workshop, but the education is terrific. I wish my employer had not cut our training budget. Mike Walter Aon Corporation The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Edward M Martin Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 3:23 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: WAVV Re: VM Workshop -- Locations Hello Everyone, Now that I am over to the z/OS side, I wish that the z/OS people had something as good as WAVV. The lectures at WAVV are verbal IBM REDBOOKS. Hands on with people that have actually done the work. Ed Martin Aultman Health Foundation 330-363-5050 Ext 35050 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Hans Rempel Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 1:35 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: WAVV Re: VM Workshop -- Locations I concur with Bill. I might have shouted louder by bolding ABSOLUTELY NOT. WAVV has excellent presentations, many IBM presentations are the same and given by the same people that present at SHARE and IBM tech conference. WAVV is not restricted to z/VM and z/LINUX. It also has a third track for z/VSE. See website www.wavv.org WAVV fees are $400 for 3 ½ days of full sessions. Starting Friday evening with SPLASH and finishing Tuesday at noon. I was really hoping to go to the VM workshop this year but the timing, long weekend in CANADA, prevented me. I'm looking forward to attend the VM workshop next year, hopefully in June, but I will still be attending WAVV. Hans From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Bill Munson Sent: August-03-11 1:02 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: WAVV Re: VM Workshop -- Locations ABSOLUTELY NOT WAVV is still going strong munson 201-418-7588 From: Jim Bohnsack jab...@cornell.edu To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 08/03/2011 12:52 PM Subject: Re: VM Workshop -- Locations Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Has the VM Workshop replaced WAVV? Jim On 8/3/2011 12:20 PM, Tom Huegel wrote: --000e0ce0d6b0d0875404a99c3e9a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I was not able to attend this year due to a scheduling conflict. I was wondering, if it is not a secret, about how many did manage to attend? On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Len Diegelldie...@aol.com wrote: ** If you are interested in location selection, I'd suggest contacting Bill Munson to get on next year's committee. You can see from the thread, everyone has some thoughts about it. This year's committee met the day before the event to discuss next year's options. That's one of the reasons it's important to have good representation on the committee. Several locations were considered, including some of those mentioned here. The list also included Washington State, Michigan State, Richmond, Austin, U. of RI, Chicago, Boston, SUNY Binghamton, Penn State etc.. This is how we selected OSU for 2011 and it was agreed that we should at least consider the following when selecting the next location(s): 1.) Inexpensive (relatively speaking) to get there. Not just to the airport, but from the airport to the campus. 2.) University locations only (non-commercial/corporate) to avoid/neutralize conflicts of some sort. 3.) Towards the center of the country to avoid losing attendees from the opposite coast. 4.) Airport relatively close to the campus (like less than 30 minutes if possible) 5.) Excellent Facilities at a reasonable price. Each attending committee member had 2 votes (first and second choice). U. of Kentucky, OSU, and U. of Nebraska (Omaha campus) took the top 3 votes in that order. Bill's 2012 committee is already working on these for next year. It's not always possible to get the dates, price, etc, which is the reason for the backups. BTW, Rice, UT(Austin), Michigan State, U of Arkansas, UMKC, were also on the short list. So plenty of options were on the table. I hope this helps. Len In a message dated 8/2/2011 6:11:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ric...@panix.com writes: On: Tue, Aug 02, 2011 at 01:44:33PM -0500,David Boyes Wrote: } University of Wisconsin would be a good choice for next year... Strong VM ties (TCP/IP) there too. } Madison is one of my favorite places in the US, but it tends to be hard to get to cheaply (cheap is a big factor for Workshop). Current discussion has University of Kentucky as top candidate, Ohio State again, or University of Nebraska, but I'd go to Madison in a heartbeat. Nothing fixed in stone yet - we gotta go out and check it out -but UK did some awesome Workshops in the
Re: WAVV Re: VM Workshop -- Locations
Hello Mike, My problem is that the z/OS people all talk about 'this the way it should be', or 'well, that is not the way it should work'. They live in world at is very constrained compared to z/VM and z/VSE. Oh and the other that gets me is, 'I don't know that option, I never use it'. Been hearing that one a lot. Ed Martin Aultman Health Foundation 330-363-5050 Ext 35050 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 4:40 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: WAVV Re: VM Workshop -- Locations Well, Ed. there *is* a very active z/OS program at SHARE. The next SHARE is next week (beginning Sunday evening August 7, at Disneyworld). SHARE is not as cheap as WAVV, nor the VM Workshop, but the education is terrific. I wish my employer had not cut our training budget. Mike Walter Aon Corporation The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Edward M Martin Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 3:23 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: WAVV Re: VM Workshop -- Locations Hello Everyone, Now that I am over to the z/OS side, I wish that the z/OS people had something as good as WAVV. The lectures at WAVV are verbal IBM REDBOOKS. Hands on with people that have actually done the work. Ed Martin Aultman Health Foundation 330-363-5050 Ext 35050 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Hans Rempel Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 1:35 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: WAVV Re: VM Workshop -- Locations I concur with Bill. I might have shouted louder by bolding ABSOLUTELY NOT. WAVV has excellent presentations, many IBM presentations are the same and given by the same people that present at SHARE and IBM tech conference. WAVV is not restricted to z/VM and z/LINUX. It also has a third track for z/VSE. See website www.wavv.org WAVV fees are $400 for 3 ½ days of full sessions. Starting Friday evening with SPLASH and finishing Tuesday at noon. I was really hoping to go to the VM workshop this year but the timing, long weekend in CANADA, prevented me. I'm looking forward to attend the VM workshop next year, hopefully in June, but I will still be attending WAVV. Hans From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Bill Munson Sent: August-03-11 1:02 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: WAVV Re: VM Workshop -- Locations ABSOLUTELY NOT WAVV is still going strong munson 201-418-7588 From: Jim Bohnsack jab...@cornell.edu To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 08/03/2011 12:52 PM Subject: Re: VM Workshop -- Locations Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Has the VM Workshop replaced WAVV? Jim On 8/3/2011 12:20 PM, Tom Huegel wrote: --000e0ce0d6b0d0875404a99c3e9a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I was not able to attend this year due to a scheduling conflict. I was wondering, if it is not a secret, about how many did manage to attend? On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Len Diegelldie...@aol.com wrote: ** If you are interested in location selection, I'd suggest contacting Bill Munson to get on next year's committee. You can see from the thread, everyone has some thoughts about it. This year's committee met the day before the event to discuss next year's options. That's one of the reasons it's important to have good representation on the committee. Several locations were considered, including some of those mentioned here. The list also included Washington State, Michigan State, Richmond, Austin, U. of RI, Chicago, Boston, SUNY Binghamton, Penn State etc.. This is how we selected OSU for 2011 and it was agreed that we should at least consider the following when selecting the next location(s): 1.) Inexpensive (relatively speaking) to get there. Not just to the airport, but from the airport to the campus. 2.) University locations only (non-commercial/corporate) to avoid/neutralize conflicts of some sort. 3.) Towards the center of the country to avoid losing attendees from the opposite coast. 4.) Airport relatively close to the campus (like less than 30 minutes if possible) 5.) Excellent Facilities at a reasonable price. Each attending committee member had 2 votes (first and second choice). U. of Kentucky, OSU, and U. of Nebraska (Omaha campus) took the top 3 votes in that order. Bill's 2012 committee is already working on these for next year. It's not always possible to get the dates, price, etc, which is the reason for the backups. BTW, Rice, UT(Austin), Michigan State, U of Arkansas, UMKC, were also on the short list. So plenty of options were on the table. I hope this helps. Len In a message dated
SHARE Luau!
Are you going to SHARE in Orlando next week? Want to have some real FUN too? SHARE is going to be having a Luau on Sunday evening to kick the week off! This isn't the usual finger-food reception, this is the real deal with plenty* of good food and drink along with entertainment. We're talking Hawaiian shirt time folks! Most long-time VM'ers know what that means, so bring 'em on! It should be a lot of fun. I hope to see everyone there! I'll be the one in the Hawaiian shirt... :-) See http://www.share.org/Events/UpcomingConferences/SHAREinOrlando/SHAREinOrlandoLuau/tabid/773/Default.aspx for more details. (* Plenty meaning you can easily have dinner at the Luau!) -- James Vincent
Re: DASD utilization question
Linux and CMS use disks completely differently..Linux will use a minidisk as a partition either directly (such as /dev/dasda1 being mounted as a filesystem) -- or as part of an LVM volume group. It also may not use the minidisk at all.. On Linux -- a 'df -h' command should show you usage of the mounted filesystems. To relate that to a minidisk is possible if the minidisk is a single partition and mounted -- but much more difficult if it's part of an LVM volume group. There are various commands you can issue from Linux to figure it all out: - lsdasd tells you what minidisk address is assigned to which dasd device (e.g. dasda, dasdb, etc) - vgdisplay -v will lists what dasd partitions make are part of a volume group Relate those things to what 'df' shows and you can 'maybe' figure out how full each disk is.. but I would not approach it this way... You want to view usage at the Linux level - and not the physical disk level. The way CMS uses disks, it makes sense -- but Linux can use them in a variety of ways. Scott Rohling On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Ticona, Luis luis.tic...@nypd.org wrote: Is there any tool that will allow me to display zVM DASD utilization. I am trying to get similar to the below information but from a zLINUX server running as a guest under zVM 5.4. ** ** q disk LABEL VDEV M STAT CYL TYPE BLKSZ FILES BLKS USED-(%) BLKS LEFT BLK TOTAL MNT191 191 A R/W 175 3390 4096 254 8934-28 22566 31500 MNT5E5 5E5 B R/W 9 3390 4096 131 1290-80330 1620 MNT2CC 2CC C R/W 5 3390 4096 60407-45 493900 MNT51D 51D D R/W26 3390 4096 306 1575-34 3105 4680 MNT193 193 H R/W 167 3390 4096 1093 21035-70 9025 30060 MNT190 190 S R/O 100 3390 4096 691 14921-83 3079 18000 MNT19E 19E Y/S R/O 250 3390 4096 1021 28225-63 16775 45000 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 20:19:56 ** ** ** ** I go into one of our zLinux servers running under zVM 5.4 and did the same display command and the only thing I received is just Information about their label, vdev, mode. The stat column information was only OS. Didn’t get info for the files, used-(%), blks left and blk total columns. The volumes in this server are 3390-27. ** ** The last thing I will attempt to do is dump these dasd to tape using INNOVATION FDRABR and then get the information about the tracks being dumped from the small report after the JCL job output is completed. ** ** Thank you; ** ** *Luis Ticona* Management Information Systems Division 1 Police Plaza New York, NY 10038 ** ** ltic...@nypd.org or 646-610-5304 ** ** [image: cid:image001.gif@01C911AB.7C344550] ** **
Re: SSL Configuration on z/VM 6.1
On Wednesday, 08/03/2011 at 04:23 EDT, Daniel Bewley daniel.bew...@gmail.com wrote: I experimented with those parameters but had no success with them in place (I still have the commented line in my profile for when I get bored). I believe the SECURE on the port definition forces it - I know for a fact that I cannot connect to the system without SSL enabled in my client (and a forced port definition of 23 - we use the RUMBA client here and it seems to assume that SSL should travel over some other, unspecified port). Putting the SECURE option on the PORT statement is for those cases like https, where the SSL tunnel is established prior to the flow of any application protocol data. E.g. PORT 80 TCP HTTPSERV 443 TCP HTTPSERV SECURE MYCERT NOAUTOLOG However, current telnet and ftp clients use *negotiated* SSL, where the application decides when to create the SSL tunnel. For these cases, you must configure the telnet and ftp servers to (1) influence the negotiation according to your security policy, and (2) have the name of the certificate they will use. E.g. InternalClientParms SecureConnection Required TLSlabel MYCERT EndInternalClientParms MYCERT is the 8-character label you assigned to a [satisfied] certificate request in the SSL server or an imported certificate. Make sure when you specify the certificate label on gskkyman that you use uppercase. And in this case, the SECURE option is NOT present on the PORT entry. Alan Altmark Senior Managing z/VM and Linux Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
Re: Modifying the System Clock on a Running VM System
On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 10:06:58 -0400 (EDT), Peter Webb wrote: Do you want the code? Yes, it can and has been done. As you say, it works well for forward adjustments; CP abends on backward adjustments. For our old Multiprise 2000, which ran slow, it was fine. Our z9 runs fast, so we no longer use it. I wish you had said something sooner. I just finished writing my own version today. Oh well, it was a fun little project. But for reasons previously discussed, I will probably never use it in production. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `-
VM Workshop Presentations on linuxvm.org
For anyone that's interested, I have uploaded almost all of the presentations given at the VM Workshop in Columbus to the linuxvm.org Presentations page. (Thanks to all the presenters who sent me copies!) http://linuxvm.org/Present/#vmw2011 will take you straight there. Mark Post
Re: How to get Operator Log
Hello, Thanks for reply. Using this command SPOOL CONS CLOSE CL A TO MAINT will only send z/MV log to maint. But if we want to know the reason, why my some of the MVS guest are crashing then how do I find it . Becuase MVS SYSLOG doesnt tell anything reason for crashing. So I just wanted to get CONSOLE log, which can provide some detail about MVS crashing. I tried repling MVS guest from VM. for doing this we use MVSCONS id, and type *xautolog sysa1* command . In starting I get Ipling messages on MVSCOS id , but after some time, messages get routed to MVS console, which we created in MVS not in VM.. Can you help me in this case to find CONSOLE log for MVS crashing. On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 7:46 AM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.comwrote: On Wednesday, 08/03/2011 at 03:58 EDT, Raymond Noal raymond.n...@emc.com wrote: If your MVS virtual machine is also your MVS operator?s console and it?s running in 3270 mode, there is no z/VM ? CP log for this console. However, for your OPERATOR virtual machine which should have console spooling started and is a 3215 device type ? you can either logon to OPERATOR and issue the command ? ?SPOOL CONS CLOSE CL A TO *|USERID. Or if you are logged on to the MAINT virtual machine, issue this command ? ?FOR OPERATOR CMD CP SPOOL CONS CLOSE CL A TO MAINT?. This will close the OPERATOR?s console log and send it to MAINT?s virtual reader where you can either RECEIVE it or just PEEK it. As to MVS, when you re-IPL the system, you should still have the SYSLOG file from the crash as either your current SYSLOG file or it?s on the SPOOL volume where you can offload it to a disk data set. If you configure MVS to use the integrated linemode console, all MVS messages will be in the virtual machine's console log. Alan Altmark Senior Managing z/VM and Linux Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott -- Thanks Regards Saurabh Khandelwal