Adding dasd to existing SUSE Linux
I added 4 3390-3 volumes to a Linux guest, they were added to z/VM ok and they are still defined there - no problems there. Then I used chccwdev to make them availbale to Linux, and dasdfmt, fsdasd, and used YaST to config an lvm vg. Executed commands lsdasd, pvdisplay, lvdisplay and it showed changes were there, then during the maintenace window the vm and linux were shutdown and brought up, and the new dasd/lvm changes did not show anymore. What am I missing? Thanks in advance for your expert input,, Luis F. La Torre Database Administrator BAX Global Inc. 440 Exchange, Irvine Ca 92602 Phone: 714-442-7441 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Thanks, My son is asking when our contract is up...want's to get an IPhone...do you like it? Scott Rohling [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7/29/2008 2:52 PM Dirm for user purge Sent from my iPhone On Jul 29, 2008, at 2:04 PM, Rich Greenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On: Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 01:44:06PM -0400,Howard Rifkind Wrote: } Thanks all, got a user now defined and put onlinefixed the extent control file... } } Searched the docs...couldn't find how to delete the users entry from the directory. Not positive (rusty memory) but try: DIRM DELETE userid clean/noclean The default for [no]clear is in one of the config files. I forget which one. } I'm pulling my hiar (what's left of it) out with this product. Yes, Dirmaint is good at that. :-) BTW: I don't want to disparage Kris's swiss army knife dirmaint exec. Its a nice hunk of code and is useful. However IMHO, before depending on such a tool, you should have some idea of the basic commands so you can tell whats going on under the covers. -- Rich Greenberg N Ft Myers, FL, USA richgr atsign panix.com + 1 239 543 1353 Eastern time. N6LRT I speak for myself my dogs only. VM'er since CP-67 Canines:Val, Red, Shasta Casey (RIP), Red Zero, Siberians Owner:Chinook-L Retired at the beach Asst Owner:Sibernet-L _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash.
Re: Adding dasd to existing SUSE Linux
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You're missing the post-storage configure mkinitrd zipl steps. Otherwise whenever the system reboots, the kernel doesn't know about the new devices. - -- Pat Luis La Torre wrote: | I added 4 3390-3 volumes to a Linux guest, they were added to z/VM ok and | they are still defined there - no problems there. | | Then I used chccwdev to make them availbale to Linux, and dasdfmt, | fsdasd, and used YaST to config an lvm vg. | | Executed commands lsdasd, pvdisplay, lvdisplay and it showed changes were | there, then during the maintenace window the vm and linux were shutdown and | brought up, and the new dasd/lvm changes did not show anymore. | | What am I missing? | | Thanks in advance for your expert input,, | | Luis F. La Torre | Database Administrator | BAX Global Inc. | 440 Exchange, Irvine Ca 92602 | Phone: 714-442-7441 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | | __ | | Thanks, | | My son is asking when our contract is up...want's to get an IPhone...do you | like it? | | Scott Rohling [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7/29/2008 2:52 PM | Dirm for user purge | | Sent from my iPhone | | On Jul 29, 2008, at 2:04 PM, Rich Greenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | On: Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 01:44:06PM -0400,Howard Rifkind Wrote: | | } Thanks all, got a user now defined and put onlinefixed the | extent control file... | } | } Searched the docs...couldn't find how to delete the users entry | from the directory. | | Not positive (rusty memory) but try: | |DIRM DELETE userid clean/noclean | | The default for [no]clear is in one of the config files. I forget | which | one. | | } I'm pulling my hiar (what's left of it) out with this product. | | Yes, Dirmaint is good at that. :-) | | BTW: I don't want to disparage Kris's swiss army knife dirmaint exec. | Its a nice hunk of code and is useful. However IMHO, before depending | on such a tool, you should have some idea of the basic commands so you | can tell whats going on under the covers. | | -- | Rich Greenberg N Ft Myers, FL, USA richgr atsign panix.com + 1 239 543 | 1353 | Eastern time. N6LRT I speak for myself my dogs only.VM'er | since CP-67 | Canines:Val, Red, Shasta Casey (RIP), Red Zero, Siberians | Owner:Chinook-L | Retired at the beach Asst | Owner:Sibernet-L | | | | | _ | LEGAL NOTICE | Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential | and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. | Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. | If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the | contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in | reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an | addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this | message and empty from your trash. | | | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIkI52NObCqA8uBswRAsVTAJ42ppU4t/wXTJute+BdJpxw7G4AFQCfaAWb bq3HlH6OULn7TJBW1mh4GMg= =LtgV -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Adding dasd to existing SUSE Linux
I don't kniw your VM expertise level so, so you may know all this: Did you update the CP directory for this Linux guest: - if the new disks are include in USER_VOLUME (i.e. they get ATATCHED to SYSTEM), then MDISK statement must be added. - otherwise you need DEDICATE statements. 2008/7/30 Macioce, Larry [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would check my directory again. I had a similar problem several years ago where I had added dasd to vm and linux and then when we reipled vm the dasd was gone. If I remember correctly( and I probably don't) I want to say I had an invalid dasd name(ie linxo2) and it should have been linx02 in the middle of my vg. Once I reworked vm it everything worked. Mace -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luis La Torre Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 11:45 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Adding dasd to existing SUSE Linux I added 4 3390-3 volumes to a Linux guest, they were added to z/VM ok and they are still defined there - no problems there. Then I used chccwdev to make them availbale to Linux, and dasdfmt, fsdasd, and used YaST to config an lvm vg. Executed commands lsdasd, pvdisplay, lvdisplay and it showed changes were there, then during the maintenace window the vm and linux were shutdown and brought up, and the new dasd/lvm changes did not show anymore. What am I missing? Thanks in advance for your expert input,, Luis F. La Torre Database Administrator BAX Global Inc. 440 Exchange, Irvine Ca 92602 Phone: 714-442-7441 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Thanks, My son is asking when our contract is up...want's to get an IPhone...do you like it? Scott Rohling [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7/29/2008 2:52 PM Dirm for user purge Sent from my iPhone On Jul 29, 2008, at 2:04 PM, Rich Greenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On: Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 01:44:06PM -0400,Howard Rifkind Wrote: } Thanks all, got a user now defined and put onlinefixed the extent control file... } } Searched the docs...couldn't find how to delete the users entry from the directory. Not positive (rusty memory) but try: DIRM DELETE userid clean/noclean The default for [no]clear is in one of the config files. I forget which one. } I'm pulling my hiar (what's left of it) out with this product. Yes, Dirmaint is good at that. :-) BTW: I don't want to disparage Kris's swiss army knife dirmaint exec. Its a nice hunk of code and is useful. However IMHO, before depending on such a tool, you should have some idea of the basic commands so you can tell whats going on under the covers. -- Rich Greenberg N Ft Myers, FL, USA richgr atsign panix.com + 1 239 543 1353 Eastern time. N6LRT I speak for myself my dogs only.VM'er since CP-67 Canines:Val, Red, Shasta Casey (RIP), Red Zero, Siberians Owner:Chinook-L Retired at the beach Asst Owner:Sibernet-L _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. - The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: Adding dasd to existing SUSE Linux
Patrick, I did not issue comands mkinitdr and zipl. Redbook sg24-6694 page 186 section 6.1 says that with sles 9, you no longer need to run the mkinitrd and zipl commands in order to configure new ECKD). But my dasd disappeared anyway. I am still researching what else I need to do. Meanwhile I re-added the space, formated, and it shows in lsdasd. Sincerely, Luis F. La Torre Database Administrator BAX Global Inc. 440 Exchange, Irvine Ca 92602 Phone: 714-442-7441 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Patrick Spinler spinler.patr To [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Sent by: The IBM z/VM Subject Operating Re: Adding dasd to existing SUSE SystemLinux [EMAIL PROTECTED] RV.UARK.EDU 07/30/2008 08:53 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System [EMAIL PROTECTED] RV.UARK.EDU -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You're missing the post-storage configure mkinitrd zipl steps. Otherwise whenever the system reboots, the kernel doesn't know about the new devices. - -- Pat Luis La Torre wrote: | I added 4 3390-3 volumes to a Linux guest, they were added to z/VM ok and | they are still defined there - no problems there. | | Then I used chccwdev to make them availbale to Linux, and dasdfmt, | fsdasd, and used YaST to config an lvm vg. | | Executed commands lsdasd, pvdisplay, lvdisplay and it showed changes were | there, then during the maintenace window the vm and linux were shutdown and | brought up, and the new dasd/lvm changes did not show anymore. | | What am I missing? | | Thanks in advance for your expert input,, | | Luis F. La Torre | Database Administrator | BAX Global Inc. | 440 Exchange, Irvine Ca 92602 | Phone: 714-442-7441 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
Re: Adding dasd to existing SUSE Linux
Well it does say it,but I think it is wrong. I have always done a mkinitrd and zipl so I don't know any better Mace -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luis La Torre Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 2:19 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Adding dasd to existing SUSE Linux Patrick, I did not issue comands mkinitdr and zipl. Redbook sg24-6694 page 186 section 6.1 says that with sles 9, you no longer need to run the mkinitrd and zipl commands in order to configure new ECKD). But my dasd disappeared anyway. I am still researching what else I need to do. Meanwhile I re-added the space, formated, and it shows in lsdasd. Sincerely, Luis F. La Torre Database Administrator BAX Global Inc. 440 Exchange, Irvine Ca 92602 Phone: 714-442-7441 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Patrick Spinler spinler.patr To [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Sent by: The IBM z/VM Subject Operating Re: Adding dasd to existing SUSE SystemLinux [EMAIL PROTECTED] RV.UARK.EDU 07/30/2008 08:53 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System [EMAIL PROTECTED] RV.UARK.EDU -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You're missing the post-storage configure mkinitrd zipl steps. Otherwise whenever the system reboots, the kernel doesn't know about the new devices. - -- Pat Luis La Torre wrote: | I added 4 3390-3 volumes to a Linux guest, they were added to z/VM ok and | they are still defined there - no problems there. | | Then I used chccwdev to make them availbale to Linux, and dasdfmt, | fsdasd, and used YaST to config an lvm vg. | | Executed commands lsdasd, pvdisplay, lvdisplay and it showed changes were | there, then during the maintenace window the vm and linux were shutdown and | brought up, and the new dasd/lvm changes did not show anymore. | | What am I missing? | | Thanks in advance for your expert input,, | | Luis F. La Torre | Database Administrator | BAX Global Inc. | 440 Exchange, Irvine Ca 92602 | Phone: 714-442-7441 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer.
Re: Adding dasd to existing SUSE Linux
Did you create the dasd config file like that Redbook page says?: similar to their example of /etc/sysconfig/hardware/hwcfg-dasd-bus-ccw-0.0.0201 This e-mail, including any attachments, may be confidential, privileged or otherwise legally protected. It is intended only for the addressee. If you received this e-mail in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, do not disseminate, copy or otherwise use this e-mail or its attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete the e-mail from your system. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luis La Torre Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 2:19 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Adding dasd to existing SUSE Linux Patrick, I did not issue comands mkinitdr and zipl. Redbook sg24-6694 page 186 section 6.1 says that with sles 9, you no longer need to run the mkinitrd and zipl commands in order to configure new ECKD). But my dasd disappeared anyway. I am still researching what else I need to do. Meanwhile I re-added the space, formated, and it shows in lsdasd. Sincerely, Luis F. La Torre Database Administrator BAX Global Inc. 440 Exchange, Irvine Ca 92602 Phone: 714-442-7441 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Patrick Spinler spinler.patr To [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Sent by: The IBM z/VM Subject Operating Re: Adding dasd to existing SUSE SystemLinux [EMAIL PROTECTED] RV.UARK.EDU 07/30/2008 08:53 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System [EMAIL PROTECTED] RV.UARK.EDU -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You're missing the post-storage configure mkinitrd zipl steps. Otherwise whenever the system reboots, the kernel doesn't know about the new devices. - -- Pat Luis La Torre wrote: | I added 4 3390-3 volumes to a Linux guest, they were added to z/VM ok and | they are still defined there - no problems there. | | Then I used chccwdev to make them availbale to Linux, and dasdfmt, | fsdasd, and used YaST to config an lvm vg. | | Executed commands lsdasd, pvdisplay, lvdisplay and it showed changes were | there, then during the maintenace window the vm and linux were shutdown and | brought up, and the new dasd/lvm changes did not show anymore. | | What am I missing? | | Thanks in advance for your expert input,, | | Luis F. La Torre | Database Administrator | BAX Global Inc. | 440 Exchange, Irvine Ca 92602 | Phone: 714-442-7441 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
Re: Adding dasd to existing SUSE Linux
No, I did not. But, I will now and hope it take cares of my problem after our downtime weekend. Thanks, Luis F. La Torre Database Administrator BAX Global Inc. 440 Exchange, Irvine Ca 92602 Phone: 714-442-7441 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Romanowski, John (OFT) John.Romanow To [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU .ny.uscc Sent by: The Subject IBM z/VM Re: Adding dasd to existing SUSE Operating Linux System [EMAIL PROTECTED] RV.UARK.EDU 07/30/2008 12:09 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System [EMAIL PROTECTED] RV.UARK.EDU Did you create the dasd config file like that Redbook page says?: similar to their example of /etc/sysconfig/hardware/hwcfg-dasd-bus-ccw-0.0.0201 This e-mail, including any attachments, may be confidential, privileged or otherwise legally protected. It is intended only for the addressee. If you received this e-mail in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, do not disseminate, copy or otherwise use this e-mail or its attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete the e-mail from your system. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luis La Torre Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 2:19 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Adding dasd to existing SUSE Linux Patrick, I did not issue comands mkinitdr and zipl. Redbook sg24-6694 page 186 section 6.1 says that with sles 9, you no longer need to run the mkinitrd and zipl commands in order to configure new ECKD). But my dasd disappeared anyway. I am still researching what else I need to do. Meanwhile I re-added the space, formated, and it shows in lsdasd. Sincerely, Luis F. La Torre Database Administrator BAX Global Inc. 440 Exchange, Irvine Ca 92602 Phone: 714-442-7441 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Patrick Spinler spinler.patr To [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Sent by: The IBM z/VM Subject Operating Re: Adding dasd to existing SUSE SystemLinux [EMAIL PROTECTED] RV.UARK.EDU 07/30/2008 08:53 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System [EMAIL PROTECTED] RV.UARK.EDU -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You're missing the post-storage configure mkinitrd zipl steps. Otherwise whenever the system reboots, the kernel doesn't know about the new devices. - -- Pat Luis La Torre wrote: | I added 4 3390-3 volumes to a Linux guest, they were added to z/VM ok and | they are still defined there - no problems there. | | Then I used chccwdev to make them availbale to Linux, and dasdfmt, | fsdasd, and used YaST to config an lvm vg. | | Executed commands lsdasd, pvdisplay, lvdisplay and it showed changes were
Re: Adding dasd to existing SUSE Linux
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 2:19 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Luis La Torre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Patrick, I did not issue comands mkinitdr and zipl. You should, or use YaST to do this type of work. It manages all the various configuration files, mkinitrd, and zipl for you automagically. That can save you a lot of headaches in the long run. (I do prefer that people learn how to do things like this manually, before starting to rely on YaST, so don't take my suggestion to use YaST as a condemnation of doing things by hand. It's how I learned most of what I know.) Redbook sg24-6694 page 186 section 6.1 says that with sles 9, you no longer need to run the mkinitrd and zipl commands in order to configure new ECKD). That may be true, but (without doing any testing) I would say that if you do things the way they recommend, it's possible your DASD volumes won't be available until control has passed from the initrd to the system running from the real DASD. Depending on what file systems you mount them on, that could be an issue. But my dasd disappeared anyway. I am still researching what else I need to do. Meanwhile I re-added the space, formated, and it shows in lsdasd. You shouldn't have had to do that, just bring them back online with YaST. Mark Post
