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Adam Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, re 10 dimensions?: You'll love the string handling capabilities. HAW HAW I SLAY ME. As my 16-year-old would say, Feel free to ... ...phsiii
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Probably not. The abstract includes, What makes System z so special in 10 dimensions? I didn't know that IBM had an architecture that would operate in 10-dimensional space. I have enough trouble in 3 dimensions. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Ackerman Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 8:46 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? Speaking of rumors, I got a z/VM Web Site Changes message from IBM that= said: Hello, This file on our web site changed very recently: http://www.vm.ibm.com/education/lvc/index.html To unenroll for these notifications, visit: https://www.vm.ibm.com/notify/ Thanks, Your IBM z/VM Team I went to that site, and found a reference to z 10, so maybe that is th= e name of the new System z: Upcoming Live Virtual Classes for z/VM, z/VSE, and Linux on System z We hope to provide a few more LVCs in the year 2008 on some often- requested z/VM and Linux on System z topics. March 03, 2008: David A's, the Green Architect's, top z 10 Lists Registration link Speaker: David F. Anderson, PE Green Consultant, IBM Charts are included as part of using Centra for LVC. Presentation charts: (forthcoming) Abstract: What makes System z so special in 10 dimensions? Characteristics of the = newest large systems include: Green design; faster engines; new advanced = function; flexible capacity; improved RAS; support for new security standards; expanding ability to run more diverse workloads; upgradeability; virtualization and an energy efficient design. Understand how mainframes are changing the way data centers can operate i= n a greener; more sustainable way. As IT executives strategize on building = an optimized sustainable data center; System z is a key technology in IBM's green arsenal of products and services. Target audience: System z = customers, Linux, z/VM, z/VSE customers, IBM System z Technical Sales, an= d System z, Business Partners. There is no charge to participate in this technical education session. =
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On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:08:48 -0600, Adam Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 19, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Schuh, Richard wrote: Probably not. The abstract includes, What makes System z so special in 10 dimensions? You'll love the string handling capabilities. HAW HAW I SLAY ME. Adam I was guessing that the 10 dimensions came from the announcement materials and/or advertising for the new processors. I must say I thought the title was ungrammatical: David A's, the Green Architect's, top z 10 Lists Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
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On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 11:08 -0600, Adam Thornton wrote: On Feb 19, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Schuh, Richard wrote: Probably not. The abstract includes, What makes System z so special in 10 dimensions? You'll love the string handling capabilities. HAW HAW I SLAY ME. Sung to the tune of... If I only had a (m-)brane
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Speaking of rumors, I got a z/VM Web Site Changes message from IBM that said: Hello, This file on our web site changed very recently: http://www.vm.ibm.com/education/lvc/index.html To unenroll for these notifications, visit: https://www.vm.ibm.com/notify/ Thanks, Your IBM z/VM Team I went to that site, and found a reference to z 10, so maybe that is th e name of the new System z: Upcoming Live Virtual Classes for z/VM, z/VSE, and Linux on System z We hope to provide a few more LVCs in the year 2008 on some often- requested z/VM and Linux on System z topics. March 03, 2008: David A's, the Green Architect's, top z 10 Lists Registration link Speaker: David F. Anderson, PE Green Consultant, IBM Charts are included as part of using Centra for LVC. Presentation charts: (forthcoming) Abstract: What makes System z so special in 10 dimensions? Characteristics of the newest large systems include: Green design; faster engines; new advanced function; flexible capacity; improved RAS; support for new security standards; expanding ability to run more diverse workloads; upgradeability; virtualization and an energy efficient design. Understand how mainframes are changing the way data centers can operate i n a greener; more sustainable way. As IT executives strategize on building an optimized sustainable data center; System z is a key technology in IBM's green arsenal of products and services. Target audience: System z customers, Linux, z/VM, z/VSE customers, IBM System z Technical Sales, an d System z, Business Partners. There is no charge to participate in this technical education session.
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On Feb 19, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Schuh, Richard wrote: Probably not. The abstract includes, What makes System z so special in 10 dimensions? You'll love the string handling capabilities. HAW HAW I SLAY ME. Adam
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And we will no doubt also love how the black hole handles data compaction. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Thornton Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 9:09 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? On Feb 19, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Schuh, Richard wrote: Probably not. The abstract includes, What makes System z so special in 10 dimensions? You'll love the string handling capabilities. HAW HAW I SLAY ME. Adam
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On Tuesday, 02/19/2008 at 11:55 EST, Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably not. The abstract includes, What makes System z so special in 10 dimensions? I didn't know that IBM had an architecture that would operate in 10-dimensional space. I have enough trouble in 3 dimensions. You know how IBM is: It's an HA thing, including 7 spare dimensions in case there's a failure in one of the first three. (Virtualized alternate track facility?) The good thing is, if the failed dimension is repaired it can be brought back online without a POR. Believe me, with 10 dimensions active, the LAST thing you want is a POR. The last poor slob who did that was sucked into the resulting vortex and hasn't been heard from since. Can you say c-o-n-t-r-o-l-l-e-d s-h-u-t-d-o-w-n? I knew you could... Oh, and if you don't have a UPS, now would be a good time. But who wants to manage 10 dimensions? Use z/VM. We can make the 3 pre-installed dimensions appear as 20. No measly limit of 10. (And without the rather, um, vicious side effects.) Those beemers...always tinkering with space-time. Dangerous, the whole lot of 'em. Hang 'em from the longest yardarm, says I. Arr. -- Chuckie
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You'll love the string handling capabilities. Sung to the tune of... If I only had a (m-)brane I'm a frayed knot!
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I just heard one today at a seminar on Linux on System z in Dallas (Coppell). The racing stripe on the zNext will be GREEN! -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it.
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I think the answer is you contact your IBM represenative. Of course, if IBM is trying to limit attendance, there may be limitations on who can attend (perhaps only managers, for example) so they may not be able to invite you. On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 16:38:43 -0500, Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! I see your point, sir. But how does one go about requesting an invitation? Even though I now ha ve the bandwidth to do webcasts, I do not. They do not excite me as much as being physically present. I should also mention that currently I am gathering research data to mak e a point concerning the prospects of teaching people the wonders of the mainframe, and that would certainly include z/VM and everything else included. -- Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Force will be with you always. Obi-Wan Kenobi
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On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 9:11 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Huegel, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought of this thread last night while watching 'Deal or No Deal' (yes I do have a social life) Hmm. Since when did sitting at home watching TV become considered as having a social life? Maybe I'm not such a hermit after all. Mark Post
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Mark, Hmm. Since when did sitting at home watching TV become considered as having a social life? i thought the same thing, but then it occurred to me that there could be a LOT of people sitting around that same TV ... err, uhmm - socializing! throw in the odd dog and a couple of cats and there could be lots and lots of socializing going on. Or... neighbors, the pizza delivery man, a couple of cell phone conversations on the side - you can do a LOT of socializing while sitting at home watching TV. prg Phillip Gramly Systems Programmer Communications Data Group Champaign, IL
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Hello! I see your point, sir. But how does one go about requesting an invitation? Even though I now have the bandwidth to do webcasts, I do not. They do not excite me as much as being physically present. I should also mention that currently I am gathering research data to make a point concerning the prospects of teaching people the wonders of the mainframe, and that would certainly include z/VM and everything else included. -- Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Force will be with you always. Obi-Wan Kenobi -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Elliott Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 2:32 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? ... Besides my only complaint concerning the road show discussions that came up earlier is that NYC wasn't selected as a host city for one of the events. ... Actually there is an event in NYC on 2/26, but it by invitation only. There is a webcast on 2/26 for which a separate invite was sent out. Go to http://www.on24.com/clients/ibm/102818 to register. Jim
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On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 6:56 AM, Marcy Cortes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No kidding, MA. I will be using that gender-based HE stuff :) Perhaps it still has time to come back as a z10 or better yet a zA. As for zA - I'm pretty sure that would suggest folks outside Europe that IBM did a major software acquisition :-) and keep IBM Legal busy for quite a while... Rob
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I want to see what happens when IBM gets to the zZ processor. Their TOP of the line processor. (yep, zZ/TOP). (. . . and yep, it's a Friday). Steve G. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 12:56 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? No kidding, MA. I will be using that gender-based HE stuff :) Perhaps it still has time to come back as a z10 or better yet a zA. zA = a really yummy pizza chain here in SF :) -- although maybe the case is reversed, huh. Marcy Cortes This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Anne Matyaz Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 6:27 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Any Rumors? Do you regret getting us started on this tangent yet? Uh, yes. Though most of these have been very entertaining. :) MA
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Marcy Cortes wrote: No kidding, MA. I will be using that gender-based HE stuff :) Perhaps it still has time to come back as a z10 or better yet a zA. zA = a really yummy pizza chain here in SF :) -- although maybe the case is reversed, huh. Marcy Cortes Is your data center ready? Build it and HE will come :-) It's Friday here, too. -- DJ V/Soft z/VM and mainframe Linux expertise, training, consulting, and software development www.vsoft-software.com
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Mary Anne Matyaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, when asked Do you regret getting us started on this tangent yet?: Uh, yes. Though most of these have been very entertaining. :) We're a bunch of pikers. The gang on IBM-MAIN would have taken this thread into at least seven completely irrelevant discussions and two flamewars by now. What's wrong with us??? ...phsiii
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I thought of this thread last night while watching 'Deal or No Deal' (yes I do have a social life) they got the male contestant to wear high heels and a dress. Could the next generation mainframe also be a cross dresser? Able to run a real operating system and windoze? The designation might be Z/w. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Phil Smith III Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 7:44 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? Mary Anne Matyaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, when asked Do you regret getting us started on this tangent yet?: Uh, yes. Though most of these have been very entertaining. :) We're a bunch of pikers. The gang on IBM-MAIN would have taken this thread into at least seven completely irrelevant discussions and two flamewars by now. What's wrong with us??? ...phsiii
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On Feb 15, 2008, at 7:11 AM, Gentry, Stephen wrote: I want to see what happens when IBM gets to the zZ processor. Their TOP of the line processor. (yep, zZ/TOP). (. . . and yep, it's a Friday). a-HAW HAW HAW Adam
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On 2/15/08 9:11 AM, Huegel, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought of this thread last night while watching 'Deal or No Deal' (yes I do have a social life) Braggart. 8-)
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Hello! Because we've outgrown such peculiar behavior? Besides my only complaint concerning the road show discussions that came up earlier is that NYC wasn't selected as a host city for one of the events. Having attended one of a sort, last year, and got some what bored with most of it, but still found the time to be interested in the issues concerning what Z/OS plans on doing as it evolves, I believed then, and still do today that they didn't properly address the fact that an operating system like that needs to be a guest to do proper work as does Linux. And Phil you do know the definition of the word piker? It was what the user of a pike was called. Those things can and would topple a mounted individual. -- Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Force will be with you always. Obi-Wan Kenobi -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Smith III Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 8:44 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? Mary Anne Matyaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, when asked Do you regret getting us started on this tangent yet?: Uh, yes. Though most of these have been very entertaining. :) We're a bunch of pikers. The gang on IBM-MAIN would have taken this thread into at least seven completely irrelevant discussions and two flamewars by now. What's wrong with us??? ...phsiii
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... Besides my only complaint concerning the road show discussions that came up earlier is that NYC wasn't selected as a host city for one of the events. ... Actually there is an event in NYC on 2/26, but it by invitation only. There is a webcast on 2/26 for which a separate invite was sent out. Go to http://www.on24.com/clients/ibm/102818 to register. Jim
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Or would that be a zA? LOL. But marketing guys don't know hexadecimal :)) Mike MacIsaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] (845) 433-7061 There are only 10 types of people in the world: those who know binary and those who don't
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Jim, Google found the following announcement presentations: http://www.baybunch.org/z9062806.pdf http://www.ibm.com/br/systems/z/events/2006/explorers2006/downloads/ibm_jose_fadel_-_system_z9_business_class.pdf ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/eserver/zseries/zos/vse/pdf3/techconf2006/G02.pdf All show a foil with s07 having machine type 2097. Perhaps they all copied the same foil with the same typo? :-) Ron On 2/13/08, Jim Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The IBM System z9 announcement dated April 27th 2006 says a z9 BC model S07 has a processor machine type of 2097. Ron: Huh? The z9 BC (R07 or S07) are both machine type 2096. Jim
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It shows a z/HE as the CPC NAME. Damnit, I'm sick of this chauvenistic crap! Isn't there one female in Pougkeepsie?? For crying out loud, why can't it be a z/HER or a z/SHE for once!!! Mary Anne (Tongue planted firmly in cheek)
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On Feb 14, 2008, at 10:14 AM, Mary Anne Matyaz wrote: It shows a z/HE as the CPC NAME. Damnit, I'm sick of this chauvenistic crap! Isn't there one female in Pougkeepsie?? For crying out loud, why can't it be a z/HER or a z/ SHE for once!!! I've had enough of the rampant genderism on this mailing list. Entities-of-indeterminate-gender deserve a voice too. Hence, my vote is for z/IT. Adam
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According to Dr. Seuss, the final authority on all matters virtual (in his epic tome, On Beyond Zebra), the letters after Z are: Yuzz, Wum, Um, Humpf, Fuddle, Glikk, Nuh, Snee, Quan, Thnad, Spazz, Floob, Zatz, Jogg, Flunn, Itch, Yekk, Vroom, and Hi. Therefore, expect to see the shiny new yuzz/1 in a showroom near you soon. Mark Llewellyn Visa, Inc.
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On Feb 14, 2008, at 10:47 AM, Mike Walter wrote: Ahem... a zIT (remember: Software has Slashes, while hardware don' need no stinkin' Slashes - save 'em for Zorro). And would a zIT have a software pre-req of the Clearasys utility to initialize the new system? Would it still require Clearasys as it matures, and is upgraded into a larger, more mature processor? I'm just looking forward to the stack operations. Adam
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IBM has a history of announcing the bigger processor of a processor family first (e.g., the z/990 was announced before the z/890 was). I suspect that the z/HER will be the designation of the smaller modeland it will probably be better looking as well. Mary Anne Matyaz wrote: It shows a z/HE as the CPC NAME. Damnit, I'm sick of this chauvenistic crap! Isn't there one female in Pougkeepsie?? For crying out loud, why can't it be a z/HER or a z/SHE for once!!! Mary Anne (Tongue planted firmly in cheek) -- DJ V/Soft z/VM and mainframe Linux expertise, training, consulting, and software development www.vsoft-software.com
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On Thursday, 02/14/2008 at 11:15 EST, Mary Anne Matyaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It shows a z/HE as the CPC NAME. Damnit, I'm sick of this chauvenistic crap! Isn't there one female in Pougkeepsie?? For crying out loud, why can't it be a z/HER or a z/SHE for once!!! No no no. z/HE is the System z way of saying s/he, aka she / he, but with more style and flair. ;-) Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
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On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No no no. z/HE is the System z way of saying s/he, aka she / he, but with more style and flair. ;-) A definite French accent, I would think. Practice more during SCIDS at z/HERE Rob
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Make that yuzz1 - no slashes in the hardware (or is that just its costs?), please. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Llewellyn, Mark Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 8:51 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? According to Dr. Seuss, the final authority on all matters virtual (in his epic tome, On Beyond Zebra), the letters after Z are: Yuzz, Wum, Um, Humpf, Fuddle, Glikk, Nuh, Snee, Quan, Thnad, Spazz, Floob, Zatz, Jogg, Flunn, Itch, Yekk, Vroom, and Hi. Therefore, expect to see the shiny new yuzz/1 in a showroom near you soon. Mark Llewellyn Visa, Inc.
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I suspect it will also come in pink. Maybe there will be a high maintenance model. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Jones Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:26 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? IBM has a history of announcing the bigger processor of a processor family first (e.g., the z/990 was announced before the z/890 was). I suspect that the z/HER will be the designation of the smaller modeland it will probably be better looking as well. Mary Anne Matyaz wrote: It shows a z/HE as the CPC NAME. Damnit, I'm sick of this chauvenistic crap! Isn't there one female in Pougkeepsie?? For crying out loud, why can't it be a z/HER or a z/SHE for once!!! Mary Anne (Tongue planted firmly in cheek) -- DJ V/Soft z/VM and mainframe Linux expertise, training, consulting, and software development www.vsoft-software.com
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And you will have to keep paying for it long after you are separated from it. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:04 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? I suspect it will also come in pink. Maybe there will be a high maintenance model. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Jones Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:26 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? IBM has a history of announcing the bigger processor of a processor family first (e.g., the z/990 was announced before the z/890 was). I suspect that the z/HER will be the designation of the smaller modeland it will probably be better looking as well. Mary Anne Matyaz wrote: It shows a z/HE as the CPC NAME. Damnit, I'm sick of this chauvenistic crap! Isn't there one female in Pougkeepsie?? For crying out loud, why can't it be a z/HER or a z/SHE for once!!! Mary Anne (Tongue planted firmly in cheek) -- DJ V/Soft z/VM and mainframe Linux expertise, training, consulting, and software development www.vsoft-software.com
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2097 is machine type for new Eclipse system, based in p6 chips. Ron Schmiedge escreveu: Jim, Google found the following announcement presentations: http://www.baybunch.org/z9062806.pdf http://www.ibm.com/br/systems/z/events/2006/explorers2006/downloads/ibm_jose_fadel_-_system_z9_business_class.pdf ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/eserver/zseries/zos/vse/pdf3/techconf2006/G02.pdf All show a foil with s07 having machine type 2097. Perhaps they all copied the same foil with the same typo? :-) Ron On 2/13/08, Jim Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The IBM System z9 announcement dated April 27th 2006 says a z9 BC model S07 has a processor machine type of 2097. Ron: Huh? The z9 BC (R07 or S07) are both machine type 2096. Jim
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Yes, and after you've upgraded to a newer, fancier, sleek model, it will get to keep the machine room;-) Schuh, Richard wrote: And you will have to keep paying for it long after you are separated from it. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:04 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? I suspect it will also come in pink. Maybe there will be a high maintenance model. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Jones Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:26 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? IBM has a history of announcing the bigger processor of a processor family first (e.g., the z/990 was announced before the z/890 was). I suspect that the z/HER will be the designation of the smaller modeland it will probably be better looking as well. Mary Anne Matyaz wrote: It shows a z/HE as the CPC NAME. Damnit, I'm sick of this chauvenistic crap! Isn't there one female in Pougkeepsie?? For crying out loud, why can't it be a z/HER or a z/SHE for once!!! Mary Anne (Tongue planted firmly in cheek) -- DJ V/Soft z/VM and mainframe Linux expertise, training, consulting, and software development www.vsoft-software.com -- DJ V/Soft z/VM and mainframe Linux expertise, training, consulting, and software development www.vsoft-software.com
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I suspect it will also come in pink. Maybe there will be a high maintenance model. Cream. Just cream. At least one of you knows the story. -- db
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Google found the following announcement presentations: ... All show a foil with s07 having machine type 2097. Perhaps they all copied the same foil with the same typo? :-) Ron: Yes, they all had the same typo. Jim
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HA - funniest I would recommend: Big Blue Topaz with sterling silver trim. And high maintenance models will cover any extra baggage! _ From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 12:04 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? I suspect it will also come in pink. Maybe there will be a high maintenance model. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Jones Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:26 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? IBM has a history of announcing the bigger processor of a processor family first (e.g., the z/990 was announced before the z/890 was). I suspect that the z/HER will be the designation of the smaller modeland it will probably be better looking as well. Mary Anne Matyaz wrote: It shows a z/HE as the CPC NAME. Damnit, I'm sick of this chauvenistic crap! Isn't there one female in Pougkeepsie?? For crying out loud, why can't it be a z/HER or a z/SHE for once!!! Mary Anne (Tongue planted firmly in cheek) -- DJ V/Soft z/VM and mainframe Linux expertise, training, consulting, and software development www.vsoft-software.com -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by http://www.mailscanner.info/ MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
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2097 is machine type for new Eclipse system, based in p6 chips. Carlos: The z6 mainframe chip-set is NOT based in POWER6 chips. There is some reuse of circuitry, but these will still be very much System z technology. See the presentation at: http://www2.hursley.ibm.com/decimal/IBM-z6-mainframe-microprocessor-Webb.pdf Jim
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And it will get jealous if you upgrade to a better model. And don't even THINK about outsourcing some of your work to a timesharing service while you have one. Dennis The popularity and effectiveness of modern anti-depressants is one of the great challenges of contemporary dramaturgy. We no more want Willy Loman to solve his problems with Prozac than we want Stanley and Stella Kowalski to get air-conditioning. -- Playwriting 101 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 09:13 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Any Rumors? And you will have to keep paying for it long after you are separated from it. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:04 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? I suspect it will also come in pink. Maybe there will be a high maintenance model. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Jones Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:26 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? IBM has a history of announcing the bigger processor of a processor family first (e.g., the z/990 was announced before the z/890 was). I suspect that the z/HER will be the designation of the smaller modeland it will probably be better looking as well. Mary Anne Matyaz wrote: It shows a z/HE as the CPC NAME. Damnit, I'm sick of this chauvenistic crap! Isn't there one female in Pougkeepsie?? For crying out loud, why can't it be a z/HER or a z/SHE for once!!! Mary Anne (Tongue planted firmly in cheek) -- DJ V/Soft z/VM and mainframe Linux expertise, training, consulting, and software development www.vsoft-software.com
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Zo ... what Alan iz really zaying iz that IBM, az a company of zmart people, haz taken a pro-active ztance for diverzity, ezpecially with rezpect to hardware and zoftware zyztemz ... -- R; On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday, 02/14/2008 at 11:15 EST, Mary Anne Matyaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It shows a z/HE as the CPC NAME. Damnit, I'm sick of this chauvenistic crap! Isn't there one female in Pougkeepsie?? For crying out loud, why can't it be a z/HER or a z/SHE for once!!! No no no. z/HE is the System z way of saying s/he, aka she / he, but with more style and flair. ;-) Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott -- -- R;
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On Feb 14, 2008, at 12:32 PM, David Boyes wrote: I suspect it will also come in pink. Maybe there will be a high maintenance model. Cream. Just “cream”. At least one of you knows the story. I NEED MORE COUGH SYRUP, STAT! Adam
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On 2/14/08 10:37 AM, Adam Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 14, 2008, at 10:14 AM, Mary Anne Matyaz wrote: It shows a z/HE as the CPC NAME. Damnit, I'm sick of this chauvenistic crap! Isn't there one female in Pougkeepsie?? For crying out loud, why can't it be a z/HER or a z/ SHE for once!!! I've had enough of the rampant genderism on this mailing list. Entities-of-indeterminate-gender deserve a voice too. Hence, my vote is for z/IT. Adam That announcement would really pop! (Sorry; couldn't resist...)
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Zo ... what Alan iz really zaying iz that IBM, az a company of zmart people, haz taken a pro-active ztance for diverzity, ezpecially with rezpect to hardware and zoftware zyztemz ... -- R; Viewing of Dr. Strangelove, Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb is now obligatory.
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Who would want to work on a z/IT? That sounds like it should be in your teenager's room. Adam Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@listserv.uark.edu 02/14/2008 10:41 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@listserv.uark.edu To IBMVM@listserv.uark.edu cc Subject Re: Any Rumors? On Feb 14, 2008, at 10:14 AM, Mary Anne Matyaz wrote: It shows a z/HE as the CPC NAME. Damnit, I'm sick of this chauvenistic crap! Isn't there one female in Pougkeepsie?? For crying out loud, why can't it be a z/HER or a z/ SHE for once!!! I've had enough of the rampant genderism on this mailing list. Entities-of-indeterminate-gender deserve a voice too. Hence, my vote is for z/IT. Adam - This e-mail and any attachments are intended only for the individual or company to which it is addressed and may contain information which is privileged, confidential and prohibited from disclosure or unauthorized use under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, or copying of this e-mail or the information contained in this e-mail is strictly prohibited by the sender. If you have received this transmission in error, please return the material received to the sender and delete all copies from your system.
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But they've taken the capacity-on-demand concept to the next level: when ever the systems get stressed new processing units (pus) break out to meet the demand. On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 13:56 -0600, Stephen Buckles wrote: Who would want to work on a z/IT? That sounds like it should be in your teenager's room.
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jeez. Getting a little over the top. On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Neale Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But they've taken the capacity-on-demand concept to the next level: when ever the systems get stressed new processing units (pus) break out to meet the demand. On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 13:56 -0600, Stephen Buckles wrote: Who would want to work on a z/IT? That sounds like it should be in your teenager's room. -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems
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Yes, but I believe the SRDL/SLDL instructions have been removed as there were problems with the new processors getting a bit on the side. On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 11:48 -0800, O'Brien, Dennis L wrote: OTOH, two of them coupled together in a parallel sysplex can be really hot.
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And don't forget those anniversaries. You know, the delivery date, the first z/VM IPL, the first z/OS crash.and on and on and on... That is what makes the younger models so attractive, not so many things to remember. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 12:53 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? And it will get jealous if you upgrade to a better model. And don't even THINK about outsourcing some of your work to a timesharing service while you have one. Dennis The popularity and effectiveness of modern anti-depressants is one of the great challenges of contemporary dramaturgy. We no more want Willy Loman to solve his problems with Prozac than we want Stanley and Stella Kowalski to get air-conditioning. -- Playwriting 101 _ From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 09:13 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Any Rumors? And you will have to keep paying for it long after you are separated from it. Regards, Richard Schuh _ From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:04 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? I suspect it will also come in pink. Maybe there will be a high maintenance model. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [ mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU ]On Behalf Of Dave Jones Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:26 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? IBM has a history of announcing the bigger processor of a processor family first (e.g., the z/990 was announced before the z/890 was). I suspect that the z/HER will be the designation of the smaller modeland it will probably be better looking as well. Mary Anne Matyaz wrote: It shows a z/HE as the CPC NAME. Damnit, I'm sick of this chauvenistic crap! Isn't there one female in Pougkeepsie?? For crying out loud, why can't it be a z/HER or a z/SHE for once!!! Mary Anne (Tongue planted firmly in cheek) -- DJ V/Soft z/VM and mainframe Linux expertise, training, consulting, and software development www.vsoft-software.com
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OTOH, two of them coupled together in a parallel sysplex can be really hot. Dennis The popularity and effectiveness of modern anti-depressants is one of the great challenges of contemporary dramaturgy. We no more want Willy Loman to solve his problems with Prozac than we want Stanley and Stella Kowalski to get air-conditioning. -- Playwriting 101 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:43 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Any Rumors? And don't forget those anniversaries. You know, the delivery date, the first z/VM IPL, the first z/OS crash.and on and on and on... That is what makes the younger models so attractive, not so many things to remember. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 12:53 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? And it will get jealous if you upgrade to a better model. And don't even THINK about outsourcing some of your work to a timesharing service while you have one. Dennis The popularity and effectiveness of modern anti-depressants is one of the great challenges of contemporary dramaturgy. We no more want Willy Loman to solve his problems with Prozac than we want Stanley and Stella Kowalski to get air-conditioning. -- Playwriting 101 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 09:13 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Any Rumors? And you will have to keep paying for it long after you are separated from it. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:04 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? I suspect it will also come in pink. Maybe there will be a high maintenance model. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Jones Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:26 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? IBM has a history of announcing the bigger processor of a processor family first (e.g., the z/990 was announced before the z/890 was). I suspect that the z/HER will be the designation of the smaller modeland it will probably be better looking as well. Mary Anne Matyaz wrote: It shows a z/HE as the CPC NAME. Damnit, I'm sick of this chauvenistic crap! Isn't there one female in Pougkeepsie?? For crying out loud, why can't it be a z/HER or a z/SHE for once!!! Mary Anne (Tongue planted firmly in cheek) -- DJ V/Soft z/VM and mainframe Linux expertise, training, consulting, and software development www.vsoft-software.com
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So Mary Anne, Do you regret getting us started on this tangent yet? Peter -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neale Ferguson Sent: February 14, 2008 14:52 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? Yes, but I believe the SRDL/SLDL instructions have been removed as there were problems with the new processors getting a bit on the side. On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 11:48 -0800, O'Brien, Dennis L wrote: OTOH, two of them coupled together in a parallel sysplex can be really hot. The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review retransmission dissemination or other use of or taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient or delegate is strictly prohibited. If you received this in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. The integrity and security of this message cannot be guaranteed on the Internet. The sender accepts no liability for the content of this e-mail or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of information provided. The recipient should check this e-mail and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The sender accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. This disclaimer is property of the TTC and must not be altered or circumvented in any manner.
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Do you regret getting us started on this tangent yet? Uh, yes. Though most of these have been very entertaining. :) MA
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No kidding, MA. I will be using that gender-based HE stuff :) Perhaps it still has time to come back as a z10 or better yet a zA. zA = a really yummy pizza chain here in SF :) -- although maybe the case is reversed, huh. Marcy Cortes This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Anne Matyaz Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 6:27 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Any Rumors? Do you regret getting us started on this tangent yet? Uh, yes. Though most of these have been very entertaining. :) MA
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No, but there is a weird post on IBM-MAIN where a person says that the D M=CPU on his z9 shows a device type of 2097 (not 2096 or 2094). It shows a z/HE as the CPC NAME. He posted that the D M=CPU showed: quote D M=CPU IEE174I 02.14.36 DISPLAY M 160 PROCESSOR STATUS ID CPU SERIAL 00 + *02097 01 + *02097 02 - 03 - 04 - 05 - 06 - 07 - 08 - 09 - 0A - 0B - 0C - 0D - 0E - 0F - 10 - 11 N 12 N 13 N 14 N 15 N 16 N 17 N 18 N 19 N 1A N 1B N 1C N 1D N 1E N CPC ND = 002097.E40.IBM.02.000* CPC SI = 2097.719.IBM.02.000* CPC ID = 00 CPC NAME = ZHE /quote -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited.
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The z10? On 2/13/08 2:36 PM, Huegel, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone heard any good rumors about IBM's next z series (mainframe) announcement?
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Has anyone heard any good rumors about IBM's next z series (mainframe) announcement?
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-Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Schmiedge Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 3:31 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? The IBM System z9 announcement dated April 27th 2006 says a z9 BC model S07 has a processor machine type of 2097. Very weird. We have a z9BC (2096-S07) and it give: CPC ND = 002096.S07.IBM.02.0001826A CPC SI = 2096.T02.IBM.02.0001826A CPC ID = 00 CPC NAME = P001826A I wonder if they have a very early z9BC. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it.
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On Feb 13, 2008, at 2:36 PM, Huegel, Thomas wrote: Has anyone heard any good rumors about IBM's next z series (mainframe) announcement? It'll be locked to ATT and every time it gets a firmware upgrade it'll brick itself if it's been unlocked. Oh, sorry. That's the iPhone, isn't it? Adam
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Rumors? Sure. But there's a roadshow announcement sent by our IBM sales team: https://www-950.ibm.com/events/wwe/syszrs/syszrs08.nsf Gee, maybe with syszrs08 they'll call it the System zRS8, or just System z8? Does it REALLY matter what it's called? PERFORMANCE matters, not the name. The sales team also sent a Mainframe Roadshow March 2008.pdf document that points to the link above. Attachments are stripped by the listserver, so you'll have to ask your IBM rep for a copy. It's worthwhile poking about that pdf file. That's all I can say about the rumors. :-) Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. Huegel, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 02/13/2008 02:36 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Any Rumors? Has anyone heard any good rumors about IBM's next z series (mainframe) announcement? The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. Emails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email.
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Or would that be a zA? Steve G. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RPN01 Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 3:44 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? The z10? On 2/13/08 2:36 PM, Huegel, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone heard any good rumors about IBM's next z series (mainframe) announcement?
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The IBM System z9 announcement dated April 27th 2006 says a z9 BC model S07 has a processor machine type of 2097. On 2/13/08, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, but there is a weird post on IBM-MAIN where a person says that the D M=CPU on his z9 shows a device type of 2097 (not 2096 or 2094). It shows a z/HE as the CPC NAME. He posted that the D M=CPU showed: quote D M=CPU IEE174I 02.14.36 DISPLAY M 160 PROCESSOR STATUS ID CPU SERIAL 00 + *02097 01 + *02097 02 - 03 - 04 - 05 - 06 - 07 - 08 - 09 - 0A - 0B - 0C - 0D - 0E - 0F - 10 - 11 N 12 N 13 N 14 N 15 N 16 N 17 N 18 N 19 N 1A N 1B N 1C N 1D N 1E N CPC ND = 002097.E40.IBM.02.000* CPC SI = 2097.719.IBM.02.000* CPC ID = 00 CPC NAME = ZHE /quote -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited.
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The IBM System z9 announcement dated April 27th 2006 says a z9 BC model S07 has a processor machine type of 2097. Ron: Huh? The z9 BC (R07 or S07) are both machine type 2096. Jim
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On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 3:36 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Huegel, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone heard any good rumors about IBM's next z series (mainframe) announcement? Why depend on rumors? See what IBM's CFO has to say about it in public: http://mainframe.typepad.com/blog/2008/01/ibm-cfo-next-ge.html Mark Post
