Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
As a follow-up to this (for those interested), this turned out to be a hardware problem. The HMC's hard drive had crashed and communications was totally messed up. The CE promptly got things under control and I was happy to see: CFCC4 : HCPMFT2816I LOADING MESSAGE PROCESSOR CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR CONTROL LER. CFCC4 : HCPMFT2817I LOAD COMPLETED FROM THE PROCESSOR CONTROLLER. CFCC4 : HCPMFT2817I NOW STARTING MESSAGE PROCESSOR CFCC4. CFCC4 : 11:36:29 CF0009I Licensed Internal Code - Property of IBM CFCC4 : Coupling facility control code CFCC4 : (C) Copyright IBM Corp 1993,1994,1995,1996,1997 CFCC4 : All rights reserved. CFCC4 : US Government Users Restricted Rights - CFCC4 : Use, duplication or disclosure restricted CFCC4 : by GSA ADP Schedule Contract with IBM Corp. CFCC4 : 11:36:29 CF0280I CFCC Release 15.00, Service Level 00.27 CFCC4 : Built on 12/06/2007 at 13:26:00 CFCC4 : Code Load Features: CFCC4 : Facility Operational Level: 15 CFCC4 : 11:36:29 CF0010I Coupling Facility is active with: CFCC4 : 1 CP CFCC4 : 0 CF Receiver Channels CFCC4 : 0 CF Sender Channels CFCC4 : 172 MB of allocatable storage Thanks to those who offered their advice on this! Dave Booher Quest Software === From: David Booher david.boo...@quest.com To: IBMVM@listserv.uark.edu Date: 09/06/2011 12:25 Subject: Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@listserv.uark.edu 09:40:56 XAUTOLOG CFCC4 09:40:56 COMMAND ACCEPTED 09:40:56 AUTO LOGON *** CFCC4USERS = 16BY OPERATOR CFCC4 : HCPMFT2816I LOADING MESSAGE PROCESSOR CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR CONTROL LER. 09:43:32 SEND CFCC4 HELP CFCC4 : HCPPCX6531E THE OPERATING SYSTEM WILL NOT ACCEPT COMMANDS FROM THE SERVICE PROCESSOR. CFCC4 : HCPMFT2814E THE REQUEST TO LOAD CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR CONTROLLER DID NOT COMPLETE IN THE ALLOTTED TIME. CFCC4 : HCPMFT260E IPL COMMAND PROCESSING CANNOT COMPLETE DUE TO ERRORS. Dave Booher Quest Software The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by e-mail.
Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
As a follow-up to this (for those interested), this turned out to be a hardware problem. The HMC's hard drive had crashed and communications was totally messed up. The CE promptly got things under control Suddenly I had a flash of the scene in Monty Python's Life of Brian after Brian escapes from the Romans and goes out to the hermit with the juniper bushes, followed by the crowd: The Message! Believe in the Message! No, the gourd! The shoe! Heretics! Unbelievers! Smite them! Seriously, though, glad to see the hardware diags actually worked. -- db
Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
David, I don't have access to a Z10, so it is only speculation. Something to check: Are the CF Processors dedicated to CF LPAR? The VM LPAR have access to at least one CF processor? Is VM LPAR running in Mode VM? Follow this line... __ Clovis From: David Booher david.boo...@quest.com To: IBMVM@listserv.uark.edu Date: 09/06/2011 12:25 Subject: Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@listserv.uark.edu Yes, I see what you see on my zVM 4.4 system running on my z800 here in Chicago, but the z10 in the UK runs zVM in an LPAR and gives the strange messages indicated below. I saw Alan's response, but I'm unsure how to proceed. I know they are running CFs in LPARs on the z10, so I don't think it's a licensing issue... Is it just a matter of exposing the CF processors to the zVM LPAR? Is this a requirement for zVM 5.3? No, the CF inside of zVM on this z10 has never been tried before. I want to get it working so I can test my DB2 version 10 SYSPLEX there, because DB2 won't run on my z800 here in Chicago. My messages are cryptic at best. I particularly like the one I got back from trying to SEND the CF machine as message while it was supposedly loading. 09:40:56 XAUTOLOG CFCC4 09:40:56 COMMAND ACCEPTED 09:40:56 AUTO LOGON *** CFCC4USERS = 16BY OPERATOR CFCC4 : HCPMFT2816I LOADING MESSAGE PROCESSOR CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR CONTROL LER. 09:43:32 SEND CFCC4 HELP CFCC4 : HCPPCX6531E THE OPERATING SYSTEM WILL NOT ACCEPT COMMANDS FROM THE SERVICE PROCESSOR. CFCC4 : HCPMFT2814E THE REQUEST TO LOAD CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR CONTROLLER DID NOT COMPLETE IN THE ALLOTTED TIME. CFCC4 : HCPMFT260E IPL COMMAND PROCESSING CANNOT COMPLETE DUE TO ERRORS. Dave Booher Quest Software
Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
Forgive my ignorance, but is this all defined in the IOCP? Because the IOCP is very generic and most of the stuff is SHARED. I don't see anything in the current IOCP that sets any partition apart from the other. BTW, this is a z9 that's having trouble: snip IOCONFIG ID=33 IDMSG2='SYS1.IODF33 - Z9 23JAN08',SYSTEM=(7060,1),* TOK=('M3000H30',0081AD0E2094202540630106302F* ,,'06-10-29','20:25:40','SYS1','IODF99') * RESOURCE PARTITION=((CSS(0),(CFE1,9),(CFE2,A), + (PART1,1),(PART2,2),(PART3,3),(PART4,4),+ (PART5,5),(PART6,6),(PART7,7),(PART8,8))) /snip Dave From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of gclo...@br.ibm.com Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 8:23 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR David, I don't have access to a Z10, so it is only speculation. Something to check: * Are the CF Processors dedicated to CF LPAR? * The VM LPAR have access to at least one CF processor? * Is VM LPAR running in Mode VM? Follow this line... __ Clovis From: David Booher david.boo...@quest.com To: IBMVM@listserv.uark.edu Date: 09/06/2011 12:25 Subject: Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@listserv.uark.edu Yes, I see what you see on my zVM 4.4 system running on my z800 here in Chicago, but the z10 in the UK runs zVM in an LPAR and gives the strange messages indicated below. I saw Alan's response, but I'm unsure how to proceed. I know they are running CFs in LPARs on the z10, so I don't think it's a licensing issue... Is it just a matter of exposing the CF processors to the zVM LPAR? Is this a requirement for zVM 5.3? No, the CF inside of zVM on this z10 has never been tried before. I want to get it working so I can test my DB2 version 10 SYSPLEX there, because DB2 won't run on my z800 here in Chicago. My messages are cryptic at best. I particularly like the one I got back from trying to SEND the CF machine as message while it was supposedly loading. 09:40:56 XAUTOLOG CFCC4 09:40:56 COMMAND ACCEPTED 09:40:56 AUTO LOGON *** CFCC4USERS = 16BY OPERATOR CFCC4 : HCPMFT2816I LOADING MESSAGE PROCESSOR CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR CONTROL LER. 09:43:32 SEND CFCC4 HELP CFCC4 : HCPPCX6531E THE OPERATING SYSTEM WILL NOT ACCEPT COMMANDS FROM THE SERVICE PROCESSOR. CFCC4 : HCPMFT2814E THE REQUEST TO LOAD CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR CONTROLLER DID NOT COMPLETE IN THE ALLOTTED TIME. CFCC4 : HCPMFT260E IPL COMMAND PROCESSING CANNOT COMPLETE DUE TO ERRORS. Dave Booher Quest Software
Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
Hi, David. No, the processors and LPAR modes are defined into HMC (Hardware Management Console), function Configure Activation Profiles. It is not IOCP. Regards, __ Clovis From: David Booher david.boo...@quest.com To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 14/06/2011 10:44 Subject: Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Forgive my ignorance, but is this all defined in the IOCP? Because the IOCP is very generic and most of the stuff is SHARED. I don’t see anything in the current IOCP that sets any partition apart from the other. BTW, this is a z9 that’s having trouble: snip IOCONFIG ID=33 IDMSG2='SYS1.IODF33 - Z9 23JAN08',SYSTEM=(7060,1),* TOK=('M3000H30',0081AD0E2094202540630106302F* ,,'06-10-29','20:25:40','SYS1','IODF99') * RESOURCE PARTITION=((CSS(0),(CFE1,9),(CFE2,A), + (PART1,1),(PART2,2),(PART3,3),(PART4,4),+ (PART5,5),(PART6,6),(PART7,7),(PART8,8))) /snip Dave From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of gclo...@br.ibm.com Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 8:23 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR David, I don't have access to a Z10, so it is only speculation. Something to check: Are the CF Processors dedicated to CF LPAR? The VM LPAR have access to at least one CF processor? Is VM LPAR running in Mode VM? Follow this line... __ Clovis From: David Booher david.boo...@quest.com To: IBMVM@listserv.uark.edu Date: 09/06/2011 12:25 Subject: Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@listserv.uark.edu Yes, I see what you see on my zVM 4.4 system running on my z800 here in Chicago, but the z10 in the UK runs zVM in an LPAR and gives the strange messages indicated below. I saw Alan's response, but I'm unsure how to proceed. I know they are running CFs in LPARs on the z10, so I don't think it's a licensing issue... Is it just a matter of exposing the CF processors to the zVM LPAR? Is this a requirement for zVM 5.3? No, the CF inside of zVM on this z10 has never been tried before. I want to get it working so I can test my DB2 version 10 SYSPLEX there, because DB2 won't run on my z800 here in Chicago. My messages are cryptic at best. I particularly like the one I got back from trying to SEND the CF machine as message while it was supposedly loading. 09:40:56 XAUTOLOG CFCC4 09:40:56 COMMAND ACCEPTED 09:40:56 AUTO LOGON *** CFCC4USERS = 16BY OPERATOR CFCC4 : HCPMFT2816I LOADING MESSAGE PROCESSOR CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR CONTROL LER. 09:43:32 SEND CFCC4 HELP CFCC4 : HCPPCX6531E THE OPERATING SYSTEM WILL NOT ACCEPT COMMANDS FROM THE SERVICE PROCESSOR. CFCC4 : HCPMFT2814E THE REQUEST TO LOAD CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR CONTROLLER DID NOT COMPLETE IN THE ALLOTTED TIME. CFCC4 : HCPMFT260E IPL COMMAND PROCESSING CANNOT COMPLETE DUE TO ERRORS. Dave Booher Quest Software
Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
Ok, that’s what I eventually figured out…. we’re checking into that now. Thanks for the advice and a “place to start looking”….. Dave From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of gclo...@br.ibm.com Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 9:58 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR Hi, David. No, the processors and LPAR modes are defined into HMC (Hardware Management Console), function Configure Activation Profiles. It is not IOCP. Regards, __ Clovis From: David Booher david.boo...@quest.com To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 14/06/2011 10:44 Subject: Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Forgive my ignorance, but is this all defined in the IOCP? Because the IOCP is very generic and most of the stuff is SHARED. I don’t see anything in the current IOCP that sets any partition apart from the other. BTW, this is a z9 that’s having trouble: snip IOCONFIG ID=33 IDMSG2='SYS1.IODF33 - Z9 23JAN08',SYSTEM=(7060,1),* TOK=('M3000H30',0081AD0E2094202540630106302F* ,,'06-10-29','20:25:40','SYS1','IODF99') * RESOURCE PARTITION=((CSS(0),(CFE1,9),(CFE2,A), + (PART1,1),(PART2,2),(PART3,3),(PART4,4),+ (PART5,5),(PART6,6),(PART7,7),(PART8,8))) /snip Dave From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of gclo...@br.ibm.com Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 8:23 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR David, I don't have access to a Z10, so it is only speculation. Something to check: * Are the CF Processors dedicated to CF LPAR? * The VM LPAR have access to at least one CF processor? * Is VM LPAR running in Mode VM? Follow this line... __ Clovis From: David Booher david.boo...@quest.com To: IBMVM@listserv.uark.edu Date: 09/06/2011 12:25 Subject: Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@listserv.uark.edu Yes, I see what you see on my zVM 4.4 system running on my z800 here in Chicago, but the z10 in the UK runs zVM in an LPAR and gives the strange messages indicated below. I saw Alan's response, but I'm unsure how to proceed. I know they are running CFs in LPARs on the z10, so I don't think it's a licensing issue... Is it just a matter of exposing the CF processors to the zVM LPAR? Is this a requirement for zVM 5.3? No, the CF inside of zVM on this z10 has never been tried before. I want to get it working so I can test my DB2 version 10 SYSPLEX there, because DB2 won't run on my z800 here in Chicago. My messages are cryptic at best. I particularly like the one I got back from trying to SEND the CF machine as message while it was supposedly loading. 09:40:56 XAUTOLOG CFCC4 09:40:56 COMMAND ACCEPTED 09:40:56 AUTO LOGON *** CFCC4USERS = 16BY OPERATOR CFCC4 : HCPMFT2816I LOADING MESSAGE PROCESSOR CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR CONTROL LER. 09:43:32 SEND CFCC4 HELP CFCC4 : HCPPCX6531E THE OPERATING SYSTEM WILL NOT ACCEPT COMMANDS FROM THE SERVICE PROCESSOR. CFCC4 : HCPMFT2814E THE REQUEST TO LOAD CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR CONTROLLER DID NOT COMPLETE IN THE ALLOTTED TIME. CFCC4 : HCPMFT260E IPL COMMAND PROCESSING CANNOT COMPLETE DUE TO ERRORS. Dave Booher Quest Software
Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
David, Isn't the problem that the virtual CF machines are not responding? If that is the case, then I don't understand why the IOCP would be involved... it's all virtual. During initialization following the XAUTOLOG, the virtual CF machine is supposed to read the actual CF code from the HMC - the same place that the real CFs load their code. If you are getting time-outs during virtual CF initialization, perhaps there's something happening on the HMC during the XAUTOLOG. Or maybe a problem with the micro-code on the HMC. How up-to-date is the microcode on that z9? Or as mentioned before some configuration not set properly on the HMC (go back to the Running Guest Operating Systems manual?) I'm doing nothing more than what most everyone else is doing... guessing from a remote vantage point. It's a bit like remote viewing in the movie Men Who Stare at Goats. (bahh-ahh) :-) Mike Walter Aon Corporation The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. David Booher david.boo...@quest.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 06/14/2011 08:44 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR Forgive my ignorance, but is this all defined in the IOCP? Because the IOCP is very generic and most of the stuff is SHARED. I don?t see anything in the current IOCP that sets any partition apart from the other. BTW, this is a z9 that?s having trouble: snip IOCONFIG ID=33 IDMSG2='SYS1.IODF33 - Z9 23JAN08',SYSTEM=(7060,1),* TOK=('M3000H30',0081AD0E2094202540630106302F* ,,'06-10-29','20:25:40','SYS1','IODF99') * RESOURCE PARTITION=((CSS(0),(CFE1,9),(CFE2,A), + (PART1,1),(PART2,2),(PART3,3),(PART4,4),+ (PART5,5),(PART6,6),(PART7,7),(PART8,8))) /snip Dave From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of gclo...@br.ibm.com Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 8:23 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR David, I don't have access to a Z10, so it is only speculation. Something to check: Are the CF Processors dedicated to CF LPAR? The VM LPAR have access to at least one CF processor? Is VM LPAR running in Mode VM? Follow this line... __ Clovis From: David Booher david.boo...@quest.com To: IBMVM@listserv.uark.edu Date: 09/06/2011 12:25 Subject: Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@listserv.uark.edu Yes, I see what you see on my zVM 4.4 system running on my z800 here in Chicago, but the z10 in the UK runs zVM in an LPAR and gives the strange messages indicated below. I saw Alan's response, but I'm unsure how to proceed. I know they are running CFs in LPARs on the z10, so I don't think it's a licensing issue... Is it just a matter of exposing the CF processors to the zVM LPAR? Is this a requirement for zVM 5.3? No, the CF inside of zVM on this z10 has never been tried before. I want to get it working so I can test my DB2 version 10 SYSPLEX there, because DB2 won't run on my z800 here in Chicago. My messages are cryptic at best. I particularly like the one I got back from trying to SEND the CF machine as message while it was supposedly loading. 09:40:56 XAUTOLOG CFCC4 09:40:56 COMMAND ACCEPTED 09:40:56 AUTO LOGON *** CFCC4USERS = 16BY OPERATOR CFCC4 : HCPMFT2816I LOADING MESSAGE PROCESSOR CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR CONTROL LER. 09:43:32 SEND CFCC4 HELP CFCC4 : HCPPCX6531E THE OPERATING SYSTEM WILL NOT ACCEPT COMMANDS FROM THE SERVICE PROCESSOR. CFCC4 : HCPMFT2814E THE REQUEST TO LOAD CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR CONTROLLER DID NOT COMPLETE IN THE ALLOTTED TIME. CFCC4 : HCPMFT260E IPL COMMAND PROCESSING CANNOT COMPLETE DUE TO ERRORS. Dave Booher Quest Software The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain
Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
Mike, I'm investigating just those points you mentioned. However, the z9 is in England and the remote web-app for the HMC isn't cooperating very well at the moment :( I've contacted my guys over there and we'll be checking the microcode updates as well as profiles on the HMC to see if there's anything glaring for that LPAR. I appreciate all the remote viewing because that's exactly what I'm doing with a z9 not too far from Stonehenge and I'm here in Chicago :) Thanks for your help. Dave -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 10:53 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR David, Isn't the problem that the virtual CF machines are not responding? If that is the case, then I don't understand why the IOCP would be involved... it's all virtual. During initialization following the XAUTOLOG, the virtual CF machine is supposed to read the actual CF code from the HMC - the same place that the real CFs load their code. If you are getting time-outs during virtual CF initialization, perhaps there's something happening on the HMC during the XAUTOLOG. Or maybe a problem with the micro-code on the HMC. How up-to-date is the microcode on that z9? Or as mentioned before some configuration not set properly on the HMC (go back to the Running Guest Operating Systems manual?) I'm doing nothing more than what most everyone else is doing... guessing from a remote vantage point. It's a bit like remote viewing in the movie Men Who Stare at Goats. (bahh-ahh) :-) Mike Walter Aon Corporation The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. David Booher david.boo...@quest.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 06/14/2011 08:44 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR Forgive my ignorance, but is this all defined in the IOCP? Because the IOCP is very generic and most of the stuff is SHARED. I don?t see anything in the current IOCP that sets any partition apart from the other. BTW, this is a z9 that?s having trouble: snip IOCONFIG ID=33 IDMSG2='SYS1.IODF33 - Z9 23JAN08',SYSTEM=(7060,1),* TOK=('M3000H30',0081AD0E2094202540630106302F* ,,'06-10-29','20:25:40','SYS1','IODF99') * RESOURCE PARTITION=((CSS(0),(CFE1,9),(CFE2,A), + (PART1,1),(PART2,2),(PART3,3),(PART4,4),+ (PART5,5),(PART6,6),(PART7,7),(PART8,8))) /snip Dave From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of gclo...@br.ibm.com Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 8:23 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR David, I don't have access to a Z10, so it is only speculation. Something to check: Are the CF Processors dedicated to CF LPAR? The VM LPAR have access to at least one CF processor? Is VM LPAR running in Mode VM? Follow this line... __ Clovis From: David Booher david.boo...@quest.com To: IBMVM@listserv.uark.edu Date: 09/06/2011 12:25 Subject: Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@listserv.uark.edu Yes, I see what you see on my zVM 4.4 system running on my z800 here in Chicago, but the z10 in the UK runs zVM in an LPAR and gives the strange messages indicated below. I saw Alan's response, but I'm unsure how to proceed. I know they are running CFs in LPARs on the z10, so I don't think it's a licensing issue... Is it just a matter of exposing the CF processors to the zVM LPAR? Is this a requirement for zVM 5.3? No, the CF inside of zVM on this z10 has never been tried before. I want to get it working so I can test my DB2 version 10 SYSPLEX there, because DB2 won't run on my z800 here in Chicago. My messages are cryptic at best. I particularly like the one I got back from trying to SEND the CF machine as message while it was supposedly loading. 09:40:56 XAUTOLOG CFCC4 09:40:56 COMMAND ACCEPTED 09:40:56 AUTO LOGON *** CFCC4USERS = 16BY OPERATOR CFCC4 : HCPMFT2816I LOADING MESSAGE PROCESSOR CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR CONTROL LER. 09:43:32 SEND CFCC4 HELP CFCC4 : HCPPCX6531E THE OPERATING SYSTEM WILL NOT ACCEPT COMMANDS FROM THE SERVICE PROCESSOR. CFCC4 : HCPMFT2814E THE REQUEST TO LOAD CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR CONTROLLER DID NOT COMPLETE IN THE ALLOTTED TIME. CFCC4 : HCPMFT260E IPL COMMAND PROCESSING CANNOT COMPLETE DUE TO ERRORS. Dave Booher Quest Software The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain
Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
Am I understanding correctly that the CFUSER virtual machines that you can run when z/VM is running natively and now be run in zVM when running in an LPAR? This was added in zVM 5.4?
Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
We've been running CFUSER virtual machines (albeit with different userids) in an LPAR since at least z/VM 4.3, perhaps even earlier. Mike Walter Aon Corporation The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. David Booher david.boo...@quest.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 06/09/2011 09:10 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR Am I understanding correctly that the CFUSER virtual machines that you can run when z/VM is running natively and now be run in zVM when running in an LPAR? This was added in zVM 5.4? The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by e-mail.
Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
Hmmm...then I wonder what this is all about. I'd really like to get this working: 09:40:56 XAUTOLOG CFCC4 09:40:56 COMMAND ACCEPTED 09:40:56 AUTO LOGON *** CFCC4USERS = 16BY OPERATOR CFCC4 : HCPMFT2816I LOADING MESSAGE PROCESSOR CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR CONTROL LER. 09:43:32 SEND CFCC4 HELP CFCC4 : HCPPCX6531E THE OPERATING SYSTEM WILL NOT ACCEPT COMMANDS FROM THE SER VICE PROCESSOR. CFCC4 : HCPMFT2814E THE REQUEST TO LOAD CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR CONTROLLER DI D NOT COMPLETE IN THE ALLOTTED TIME. CFCC4 : HCPMFT260E IPL COMMAND PROCESSING CANNOT COMPLETE DUE TO ERRORS. Dave Booher Quest Software From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 9:31 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR We've been running CFUSER virtual machines (albeit with different userids) in an LPAR since at least z/VM 4.3, perhaps even earlier. Mike Walter Aon Corporation y e-mail.
Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
On Thursday, 06/09/2011 at 10:12 EDT, David Booher david.boo...@quest.com wrote: Am I understanding correctly that the CFUSER virtual machines that you can run when z/VM is running natively and now be run in zVM when running in an LPAR? This was added in zVM 5.4? There has never been a restriction on using virtual coupling in an LPAR. The only thing that is required is that the machine be licensed for Coupling Facility, which, IIRC, is demonstrated by the presence of at least one coupling link on the box. (But that may have changed over the years) If the machine is not licensed for CF, then virtual CF cannot be used. What IS relatively new is that if you are running in a z/VM mode LPAR, then you can have real CF engines in the z/VM LPAR and virtual CFs will be dispatched on real CFs. Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
Yes, I see what you see on my zVM 4.4 system running on my z800 here in Chicago, but the z10 in the UK runs zVM in an LPAR and gives the strange messages indicated below. I saw Alan's response, but I'm unsure how to proceed. I know they are running CFs in LPARs on the z10, so I don't think it's a licensing issue... Is it just a matter of exposing the CF processors to the zVM LPAR? Is this a requirement for zVM 5.3? No, the CF inside of zVM on this z10 has never been tried before. I want to get it working so I can test my DB2 version 10 SYSPLEX there, because DB2 won't run on my z800 here in Chicago. My messages are cryptic at best. I particularly like the one I got back from trying to SEND the CF machine as message while it was supposedly loading. 09:40:56 XAUTOLOG CFCC4 09:40:56 COMMAND ACCEPTED 09:40:56 AUTO LOGON *** CFCC4USERS = 16BY OPERATOR CFCC4 : HCPMFT2816I LOADING MESSAGE PROCESSOR CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR CONTROL LER. 09:43:32 SEND CFCC4 HELP CFCC4 : HCPPCX6531E THE OPERATING SYSTEM WILL NOT ACCEPT COMMANDS FROM THE SERVICE PROCESSOR. CFCC4 : HCPMFT2814E THE REQUEST TO LOAD CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR CONTROLLER DID NOT COMPLETE IN THE ALLOTTED TIME. CFCC4 : HCPMFT260E IPL COMMAND PROCESSING CANNOT COMPLETE DUE TO ERRORS. Dave Booher Quest Software
Re: Question regarding zVM and CF when running in a LPAR
On Thursday, 06/09/2011 at 11:14 EDT, Mike Walter mike.wal...@aonhewitt.com wrote: I'm not sure if this will be of any help, but here are the CF-related console messages extracted from our most recent IPL of a z/VM 5.4 system running in an LPAR on a z10: You can find sample output and other information on the virtual Coupling Facility in the Running Guest Operating Systems book. The relevant error in this case is CFCC4 : HCPMFT2814E THE REQUEST TO LOAD CFCC4 FROM THE PROCESSOR CONTROLLER DID NOT COMPLETE IN THE ALLOTTED TIME. HELP HCP2814E tells you to try again, but that if it fails repeatedly to open a PMR. SEND won't work until the CF is loaded and ready. z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott