Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

2011-02-18 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
The truly paranoid keep a .iso copy of the DVD in each location (or burn 
extra physical copies and keep it with your emergency ops manual).

Just because we're paranoid, does not necessarily mean everyone is not out 
to get us.

 








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 stable (tested and rarely changed) 1-pack z/VM recovery system.  It 
could save 
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The truly paranoid keep a .iso copy of the DVD in each location (or burn 
extra physical copies and keep it with your emergency ops manual).  The 
ramdisk-based installation system can be used to repair other systems.  It 

will run even if nothing else will.

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Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

2011-02-18 Thread Tom Huegel
Here is what I do.

In SYSTEM CONFIG file I have these statements.
 System_Identifier 2094 09A123 ZVMHOME
 System_Identifier 2817 09B123 ZVMDR

/**/
/* IMBED -SYSTEM- SYSTEM */
 IMBED -SYSTEM- SYSTEM
/**/

Then I have two files on CF1
ZVMHOME SYSTEM    All of the system config statements for my home
system
ZVMDR  SYSTEM    All of the system config statements for my D/R
system

This technique requires you to know some things about the D/R system like
the CPUID etc. you can use the different names throught the system to decide
if you are at home or at a D/R sught.








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 extra physical copies and keep it with your emergency ops manual).

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  stable (tested and rarely changed) 1-pack z/VM recovery system.  It
 could save
  your job one day (or dark night).

 The truly paranoid keep a .iso copy of the DVD in each location (or burn
 extra physical copies and keep it with your emergency ops manual).  The
 ramdisk-based installation system can be used to repair other systems.  It
 will run even if nothing else will.

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Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

2011-02-18 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
Tom Huegel wrote:

This technique requires you to know some things about the D/R system like 
the CPUID etc



Why CPUID?

We are upgrading from z9 to z196 soon.

Is there a CPUID carried in SYSTEM CONFIG which I must change?






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Here is what I do.
 
In SYSTEM CONFIG file I have these statements.
 System_Identifier 2094 09A123 ZVMHOME  
 System_Identifier 2817 09B123 ZVMDR
 
/**/ 
/* IMBED -SYSTEM- SYSTEM */  
 IMBED -SYSTEM- SYSTEM   
/**/   

 
Then I have two files on CF1
ZVMHOME SYSTEM    All of the system config statements for my home 
system
ZVMDR  SYSTEM    All of the system config statements for my 
D/R system
 
This technique requires you to know some things about the D/R system like 
the CPUID etc. you can use the different names throught the system to 
decide if you are at home or at a D/R sught.
 
 
 
 
 


 
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extra physical copies and keep it with your emergency ops manual). 

Just because we're paranoid, does not necessarily mean everyone is not out 
to get us. 

  







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a 
 stable (tested and rarely changed) 1-pack z/VM recovery system.  It 
could save 
 your job one day (or dark night).

The truly paranoid keep a .iso copy of the DVD in each location (or burn 
extra physical copies and keep it with your emergency ops manual).  The 
ramdisk-based installation system can be used to repair other systems.  It 

will run even if nothing else will.

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Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

2011-02-18 Thread Tom Huegel
That depends.. If you have CPUID's in the system config file then you will
need to update them for the new cpu.. On the other hand if you just have a
stetement like this you don't need to do anything.
System_Identifier_Default ZVMHOME

On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 8:22 AM, George Henke/NYLIC 
george_he...@newyorklife.com wrote:

 Tom Huegel wrote:

 This technique requires you to know some things about the D/R system like
 the CPUID etc



 Why CPUID?

 We are upgrading from z9 to z196 soon.

 Is there a CPUID carried in SYSTEM CONFIG which I must change?





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 Here is what I do.

 In SYSTEM CONFIG file I have these statements.
  System_Identifier 2094 09A123 ZVMHOME
  System_Identifier 2817 09B123 ZVMDR

 /**/
 /* IMBED -SYSTEM- SYSTEM */
  IMBED -SYSTEM- SYSTEM
 /**/

 Then I have two files on CF1
 ZVMHOME SYSTEM    All of the system config statements for my home
 system
 ZVMDR  SYSTEM    All of the system config statements for my
 D/R system

 This technique requires you to know some things about the D/R system like
 the CPUID etc. you can use the different names throught the system to decide
 if you are at home or at a D/R sught.








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 extra physical copies and keep it with your emergency ops manual).

 Just because we're paranoid, does not necessarily mean everyone is not out
 to get us.








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  If you're reading this and are new to z/VM, take one thing away... build
 a
  stable (tested and rarely changed) 1-pack z/VM recovery system.  It
 could save
  your job one day (or dark night).

 The truly paranoid keep a .iso copy of the DVD in each location (or burn
 extra physical copies and keep it with your emergency ops manual).  The
 ramdisk-based installation system can be used to repair other systems.  It
 will run even if nothing else will.

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Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

2011-02-18 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
This is all I have in SYSTEM CONFIG, so I guess it's ok?

/**/ 
/*   System_Identifier Information*/ 
/**/ 
 
System_Identifier_Default zVM-81 
 



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That depends.. If you have CPUID's in the system config file then you will 
need to update them for the new cpu.. On the other hand if you just have a 
stetement like this you don't need to do anything.
System_Identifier_Default ZVMHOME 

On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 8:22 AM, George Henke/NYLIC 
george_he...@newyorklife.com wrote:
Tom Huegel wrote: 

This technique requires you to know some things about the D/R system like 
the CPUID etc 



Why CPUID? 

We are upgrading from z9 to z196 soon. 

Is there a CPUID carried in SYSTEM CONFIG which I must change? 





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Here is what I do. 
  
In SYSTEM CONFIG file I have these statements. 
 System_Identifier 2094 09A123 ZVMHOME  
 System_Identifier 2817 09B123 ZVMDR 
  
/**/ 
/* IMBED -SYSTEM- SYSTEM */  
 IMBED -SYSTEM- SYSTEM   
/**/   

  
Then I have two files on CF1 
ZVMHOME SYSTEM    All of the system config statements for my home 
system 
ZVMDR  SYSTEM    All of the system config statements for my 
D/R system 
  
This technique requires you to know some things about the D/R system like 
the CPUID etc. you can use the different names throught the system to 
decide if you are at home or at a D/R sught. 
  
  
  
  
  


  
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 7:01 AM, George Henke/NYLIC 
george_he...@newyorklife.com wrote: 
The truly paranoid keep a .iso copy of the DVD in each location (or burn 
extra physical copies and keep it with your emergency ops manual). 

Just because we're paranoid, does not necessarily mean everyone is not out 
to get us. 

  






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On Thursday, 02/17/2011 at 05:48 EST, Mike Walter 
mike.wal...@aonhewitt.com wrote:

 If you're reading this and are new to z/VM, take one thing away... build 

a 
 stable (tested and rarely changed) 1-pack z/VM recovery system.  It 
could save 
 your job one day (or dark night).

The truly paranoid keep a .iso copy of the DVD in each location (or burn 
extra physical copies and keep it with your emergency ops manual).  The 
ramdisk-based installation system can be used to repair other systems.  It 

will run even if nothing else will.

Alan Altmark

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Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

2011-02-18 Thread Tom Huegel
You should be fine.



On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 8:46 AM, George Henke/NYLIC 
george_he...@newyorklife.com wrote:

 This is all I have in SYSTEM CONFIG, so I guess it's ok?

 /**/
 /*   System_Identifier Information*/
 /**/

 System_Identifier_Default zVM-81



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 That depends.. If you have CPUID's in the system config file then you will
 need to update them for the new cpu.. On the other hand if you just have a
 stetement like this you don't need to do anything.
 System_Identifier_Default ZVMHOME

 On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 8:22 AM, George Henke/NYLIC *
 george_he...@newyorklife.com* george_he...@newyorklife.com wrote:
 Tom Huegel wrote:

 This technique requires you to know some things about the D/R system like
 the CPUID etc



 Why CPUID?

 We are upgrading from z9 to z196 soon.

 Is there a CPUID carried in SYSTEM CONFIG which I must change?




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 Here is what I do.

 In SYSTEM CONFIG file I have these statements.
  System_Identifier 2094 09A123 ZVMHOME
  System_Identifier 2817 09B123 ZVMDR

 /**/
 /* IMBED -SYSTEM- SYSTEM */
  IMBED -SYSTEM- SYSTEM
 /**/

 Then I have two files on CF1
 ZVMHOME SYSTEM    All of the system config statements for my home
 system
 ZVMDR  SYSTEM    All of the system config statements for my
 D/R system

 This technique requires you to know some things about the D/R system like
 the CPUID etc. you can use the different names throught the system to decide
 if you are at home or at a D/R sught.








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 george_he...@newyorklife.com* george_he...@newyorklife.com wrote:
 The truly paranoid keep a .iso copy of the DVD in each location (or burn
 extra physical copies and keep it with your emergency ops manual).

 Just because we're paranoid, does not necessarily mean everyone is not out
 to get us.







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 *mike.wal...@aonhewitt.com* mike.wal...@aonhewitt.com wrote:

  If you're reading this and are new to z/VM, take one thing away... build
 a
  stable (tested and rarely changed) 1-pack z/VM recovery system.  It
 could save
  your job one day (or dark night).

 The truly paranoid keep a .iso copy of the DVD in each location (or burn
 extra physical copies and keep it with your emergency ops manual).  The
 ramdisk-based installation system can be used to repair other systems.  It
 will run even if nothing else will.

 Alan Altmark

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Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

2011-02-17 Thread Scott Rohling
CP VARY ON address  ??

Scott Rohling

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Steve Perez sspe...@corelogic.com wrote:

 Hello Listers,

 If I have DEVICE addresses in the SYSTEM CONFIG file to be OFFLINE_AT_IPL,
 is there to dynamically have those devices varied online or override at
 IPL of a zVM 5.4 ?



 Thanks,
 Steve.



Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

2011-02-17 Thread Quay, Jonathan (IHG)
If you don't want to change your SYSTEM CONFIG file to specify those
devices as ONLINE_AT_IPL, you could vary the devices online in your
AUTOLOG1 profile exec.

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Subject: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

Hello Listers,

If I have DEVICE addresses in the SYSTEM CONFIG file to be
OFFLINE_AT_IPL=
, 
is there to dynamically have those devices varied online or override at
=

IPL of a zVM 5.4 ? 



Thanks,
Steve.


Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

2011-02-17 Thread Schuh, Richard
You could also have a second config file that includes the devices in the 
online_at_ipl list. When you ipl, put a console address in the LOADPARMS area 
(or as the LOADPARM parameter if you are ipling 2nd level) and specify the 
alternate config file name in the SALIPL screen. If the devices are currently 
offline because of duplicate volsers, you could make the older devices offline 
in the alternate file.

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

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 Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG
 
 If you don't want to change your SYSTEM CONFIG file to 
 specify those devices as ONLINE_AT_IPL, you could vary the 
 devices online in your
 AUTOLOG1 profile exec.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
 [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Perez
 Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:45 PM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG
 
 Hello Listers,
 
 If I have DEVICE addresses in the SYSTEM CONFIG file to be 
 OFFLINE_AT_IPL= , is there to dynamically have those devices 
 varied online or override at =
 
 IPL of a zVM 5.4 ? 
 
 
 
 Thanks,
 Steve.
 

Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

2011-02-17 Thread Perez, Steve S
Unfortunately we are not at the point where we can issue the VARY online 
command.  The system (Test DR z/VM environment) cannot continue because the 
OFFLINE_AT_IPL statement contains the address of the PAGE volumes.  So we are 
thinking that having the PAGE volume addresses included in the OFFLINE_AT_IPL 
list is keeping the PAGE volumes from coming online and therefore preventing 
the system from initializing.

My other option would be to shutdown the DR z/VM environment and update the 
SYSTEM CONFIG without those ranges and create a new CPLOAD module to see if 
that is what is actually causing the z/VM system from fully initializing.


Thanks,
Steve



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Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

CP VARY ON address  ??

Scott Rohling

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Steve Perez 
sspe...@corelogic.commailto:sspe...@corelogic.com wrote:
Hello Listers,

If I have DEVICE addresses in the SYSTEM CONFIG file to be OFFLINE_AT_IPL,
is there to dynamically have those devices varied online or override at
IPL of a zVM 5.4 ?



Thanks,
Steve.

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Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

2011-02-17 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
You can actually mix them:

 

Devices ,  

  Online_at_IPL   -,   

  Offline_at_IPL  000C-000E,  

  Offline_at_IPL  0170-0179,   

  Offline_at_IPL  0500-053F,   

  :

  :

 

 

Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.

 

 



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Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

 

Unfortunately we are not at the point where we can issue the VARY online
command.  The system (Test DR z/VM environment) cannot continue because
the OFFLINE_AT_IPL statement contains the address of the PAGE volumes.
So we are thinking that having the PAGE volume addresses included in the
OFFLINE_AT_IPL list is keeping the PAGE volumes from coming online and
therefore preventing the system from initializing.

 

My other option would be to shutdown the DR z/VM environment and update
the SYSTEM CONFIG without those ranges and create a new CPLOAD module to
see if that is what is actually causing the z/VM system from fully
initializing.

 


Thanks,

Steve

 

 



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Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

CP VARY ON address  ?? 

 

Scott Rohling

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Steve Perez sspe...@corelogic.com
wrote:

Hello Listers,

If I have DEVICE addresses in the SYSTEM CONFIG file to be
OFFLINE_AT_IPL,
is there to dynamically have those devices varied online or override at
IPL of a zVM 5.4 ?



Thanks,
Steve.

 


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Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

2011-02-17 Thread Perez, Steve S
What is the command to override that OFFLINE_AT_IPL statement in the SALIPL 
screen ?  Or can we ?



Thanks,

Steve




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You can actually mix them:

Devices ,
  Online_at_IPL   -,
  Offline_at_IPL  000C-000E,
  Offline_at_IPL  0170-0179,
  Offline_at_IPL  0500-053F,
  :
  :



Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.






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Of Perez, Steve S
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:05 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

Unfortunately we are not at the point where we can issue the VARY online 
command.  The system (Test DR z/VM environment) cannot continue because the 
OFFLINE_AT_IPL statement contains the address of the PAGE volumes.  So we are 
thinking that having the PAGE volume addresses included in the OFFLINE_AT_IPL 
list is keeping the PAGE volumes from coming online and therefore preventing 
the system from initializing.

My other option would be to shutdown the DR z/VM environment and update the 
SYSTEM CONFIG without those ranges and create a new CPLOAD module to see if 
that is what is actually causing the z/VM system from fully initializing.


Thanks,
Steve



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Of Scott Rohling
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:48 PM
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Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG
CP VARY ON address  ??

Scott Rohling
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Steve Perez 
sspe...@corelogic.commailto:sspe...@corelogic.com wrote:
Hello Listers,

If I have DEVICE addresses in the SYSTEM CONFIG file to be OFFLINE_AT_IPL,
is there to dynamically have those devices varied online or override at
IPL of a zVM 5.4 ?



Thanks,
Steve.

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Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

2011-02-17 Thread Quay, Jonathan (IHG)
Do you have a different system config file that has your page packs as
online?  You could use the SAIPL screen to point to that config file.
Do you have spare packs that are online at ipl?  You could format them
as page and clip them to the volsers you system is expecting for its
page packs, then IPL and do your repairs.

 



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On
Behalf Of Perez, Steve S
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 3:05 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

 

Unfortunately we are not at the point where we can issue the VARY online
command.  The system (Test DR z/VM environment) cannot continue because
the OFFLINE_AT_IPL statement contains the address of the PAGE volumes.
So we are thinking that having the PAGE volume addresses included in the
OFFLINE_AT_IPL list is keeping the PAGE volumes from coming online and
therefore preventing the system from initializing.

 

My other option would be to shutdown the DR z/VM environment and update
the SYSTEM CONFIG without those ranges and create a new CPLOAD module to
see if that is what is actually causing the z/VM system from fully
initializing.

 


Thanks,

Steve

 

 



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Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:48 PM
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Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

CP VARY ON address  ?? 

 

Scott Rohling

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Steve Perez sspe...@corelogic.com
wrote:

Hello Listers,

If I have DEVICE addresses in the SYSTEM CONFIG file to be
OFFLINE_AT_IPL,
is there to dynamically have those devices varied online or override at
IPL of a zVM 5.4 ?



Thanks,
Steve.

 


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Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

2011-02-17 Thread Schuh, Richard
You specify the filename of the desired CONFIG file in a provided space.


Regards,
Richard Schuh






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Of Perez, Steve S
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 12:14 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

What is the command to override that OFFLINE_AT_IPL statement in the SALIPL 
screen ?  Or can we ?



Thanks,

Steve




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Of Frank M. Ramaekers
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:10 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

You can actually mix them:

Devices ,
  Online_at_IPL   -,
  Offline_at_IPL  000C-000E,
  Offline_at_IPL  0170-0179,
  Offline_at_IPL  0500-053F,
  :
  :



Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.






From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Perez, Steve S
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:05 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

Unfortunately we are not at the point where we can issue the VARY online 
command.  The system (Test DR z/VM environment) cannot continue because the 
OFFLINE_AT_IPL statement contains the address of the PAGE volumes.  So we are 
thinking that having the PAGE volume addresses included in the OFFLINE_AT_IPL 
list is keeping the PAGE volumes from coming online and therefore preventing 
the system from initializing.

My other option would be to shutdown the DR z/VM environment and update the 
SYSTEM CONFIG without those ranges and create a new CPLOAD module to see if 
that is what is actually causing the z/VM system from fully initializing.


Thanks,
Steve



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To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG
CP VARY ON address  ??

Scott Rohling
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Steve Perez 
sspe...@corelogic.commailto:sspe...@corelogic.com wrote:
Hello Listers,

If I have DEVICE addresses in the SYSTEM CONFIG file to be OFFLINE_AT_IPL,
is there to dynamically have those devices varied online or override at
IPL of a zVM 5.4 ?



Thanks,
Steve.

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Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

2011-02-17 Thread Perez, Steve S
I do not have another filename to specify.  I can create one at a later time 
after we finish this test because we have a time frame to get this test to 
work, but in the meantime, is there an override command to the DEVICES 
OFFLINE_AT_IPL statement in the SYSTEM CONFIG that I can use through the the 
SALIPL screen ?

Thanks,
Steve



Steve S. Perez
zSeries Technical Services




From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Schuh, Richard
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:17 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

You specify the filename of the desired CONFIG file in a provided space.


Regards,
Richard Schuh






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Of Perez, Steve S
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 12:14 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

What is the command to override that OFFLINE_AT_IPL statement in the SALIPL 
screen ?  Or can we ?



Thanks,

Steve




From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Frank M. Ramaekers
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:10 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

You can actually mix them:

Devices ,
  Online_at_IPL   -,
  Offline_at_IPL  000C-000E,
  Offline_at_IPL  0170-0179,
  Offline_at_IPL  0500-053F,
  :
  :



Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.






From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Perez, Steve S
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:05 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

Unfortunately we are not at the point where we can issue the VARY online 
command.  The system (Test DR z/VM environment) cannot continue because the 
OFFLINE_AT_IPL statement contains the address of the PAGE volumes.  So we are 
thinking that having the PAGE volume addresses included in the OFFLINE_AT_IPL 
list is keeping the PAGE volumes from coming online and therefore preventing 
the system from initializing.

My other option would be to shutdown the DR z/VM environment and update the 
SYSTEM CONFIG without those ranges and create a new CPLOAD module to see if 
that is what is actually causing the z/VM system from fully initializing.


Thanks,
Steve



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Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:48 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG
CP VARY ON address  ??

Scott Rohling
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Steve Perez 
sspe...@corelogic.commailto:sspe...@corelogic.com wrote:
Hello Listers,

If I have DEVICE addresses in the SYSTEM CONFIG file to be OFFLINE_AT_IPL,
is there to dynamically have those devices varied online or override at
IPL of a zVM 5.4 ?



Thanks,
Steve.

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Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

2011-02-17 Thread Kris Buelens
The overrides in the SAPL only permit to enter another filename to influence
OFFLINE/ONLINE, no special keyword.  But, what's so difficult in copying
your current SYSTEM CONFIG in eg TEST CONFIG, make your changes and
specifying FNAME=TEST in the SAPL screen?

2011/2/17 Perez, Steve S sspe...@corelogic.com

  I do not have another filename to specify.  I can create one at a later
 time after we finish this test because we have a time frame to get this test
 to work, but in the meantime, is there an override command to the DEVICES
 OFFLINE_AT_IPL statement in the SYSTEM CONFIG that I can use through the the
 SALIPL screen ?

 Thanks,
 Steve


 *Steve S. Perez*
 zSeries Technical Services


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 Behalf Of *Schuh, Richard
 *Sent:* Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:17 PM
 *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 *Subject:* Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

  You specify the filename of the desired CONFIG file in a provided space.


 Regards,
 Richard Schuh




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 Behalf Of *Perez, Steve S
 *Sent:* Thursday, February 17, 2011 12:14 PM
 *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 *Subject:* Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

  What is the command to override that OFFLINE_AT_IPL statement in the
 SALIPL screen ?  Or can we ?


 Thanks,

 Steve


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 *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] *On
 Behalf Of *Frank M. Ramaekers
 *Sent:* Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:10 PM
 *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 *Subject:* Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

  You can actually mix them:



 Devices ,

   Online_at_IPL   -,

   Offline_at_IPL  000C-000E,

   Offline_at_IPL  0170-0179,

   Offline_at_IPL  0500-053F,

   :

   :





 Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.




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 *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] *On
 Behalf Of *Perez, Steve S
 *Sent:* Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:05 PM
 *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 *Subject:* Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG



 Unfortunately we are not at the point where we can issue the VARY online
 command.  The system (Test DR z/VM environment) cannot continue because the
 OFFLINE_AT_IPL statement contains the address of the PAGE volumes.  So we
 are thinking that having the PAGE volume addresses included in the
 OFFLINE_AT_IPL list is keeping the PAGE volumes from coming online and
 therefore preventing the system from initializing.



 My other option would be to shutdown the DR z/VM environment and update the
 SYSTEM CONFIG without those ranges and create a new CPLOAD module to see if
 that is what is actually causing the z/VM system from fully initializing.




 Thanks,

 Steve




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 *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] *On
 Behalf Of *Scott Rohling
 *Sent:* Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:48 PM
 *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 *Subject:* Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

 CP VARY ON address  ??



 Scott Rohling

 On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Steve Perez sspe...@corelogic.com
 wrote:

 Hello Listers,

 If I have DEVICE addresses in the SYSTEM CONFIG file to be OFFLINE_AT_IPL,
 is there to dynamically have those devices varied online or override at
 IPL of a zVM 5.4 ?



 Thanks,
 Steve.



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Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

2011-02-17 Thread Perez, Steve S
Mike,

The answer to both those question is 1) yes 2) no.

Our DR remote location has 2 LPARs dedicated for our DR Testing.  One LPAR is 
for z/OS and the other for z/VM.

I will keep your recovery scenario/suggestion in mind.  It looks like something 
that can be useful in the future when the need arises with the ideal scenario 
that you posed.  Thank you for your insight.


Steve



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Of Mike Walter
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:42 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG


Steve,

1) Do you know the volser, and the start and end cylinders of your MAINT CF1 
disk?
2) Do you have another z/VM system available (even your D.R. provider's Floor 
system)?

If the answer to both of those is yes, then you're home free...

- Shutdown your partly IPLed z/VM system with the bad config file.

From MAINT on that other z/VM system, CP ATTACH your IPL volume to that system:
- CP ATTACH rdev SYSTEM
- CP DEFINE MDISK EEE start_cyl end_cyl volser
- ACCESS EEE W
- XEDIT SYSTEM CONFIG W
- fix and FILE the config  file
- CPSYNTAX SYSTEM CONFIG W
- RELEASE W (DET
- Bring up your system with the corrected SYSTEM CONFIG file.
- Make note of what needs to be fixed when back home.

For you, and anyone else who doesn't have one...
When home,
- build a 1-pack stand-alone rescue system.  Ours is called the VM Operating 
System Hipervisor Tool, and resides on a disk with a matching volser: VMOSHT.  
That volser is easy to remember, easy to find, and pretty self-explanatory.  :-)
- Test that 1-pack stand-alone rescue system 2nd level (i.e. from your own 
personal Class G userid, without any special DASD attached.  If it needs 
resources that it doesn't have to come up to the point that MAINT can issue CP 
DEFINE MDISK, then it's not a stand-alone recovery system.
- DDR that volser to tapes, and ensure that a copy is kept onsite, and a copy 
at your offsite vault.

Good Luck!

Mike Walter
Aon Corporation
The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's.




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I do not have another filename to specify.  I can create one at a later time 
after we finish this test because we have a time frame to get this test to 
work, but in the meantime, is there an override command to the DEVICES 
OFFLINE_AT_IPL statement in the SYSTEM CONFIG that I can use through the the 
SALIPL screen ?

Thanks,
Steve


Steve S. Perez
zSeries Technical Services



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Schuh, Richard
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:17 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

You specify the filename of the desired CONFIG file in a provided space.


Regards,
Richard Schuh



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Perez, Steve S
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 12:14 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

What is the command to override that OFFLINE_AT_IPL statement in the SALIPL 
screen ?  Or can we ?


Thanks,

Steve



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Frank M. Ramaekers
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:10 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

You can actually mix them:

Devices ,
  Online_at_IPL   -,
  Offline_at_IPL  000C-000E,
  Offline_at_IPL  0170-0179,
  Offline_at_IPL  0500-053F,
  :
  :



Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.





From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Perez, Steve S
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:05 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

Unfortunately we are not at the point where we can issue the VARY online 
command.  The system (Test DR z/VM environment) cannot continue because the 
OFFLINE_AT_IPL statement contains the address of the PAGE volumes.  So we are 
thinking that having the PAGE volume addresses included in the OFFLINE_AT_IPL 
list is keeping the PAGE volumes from coming online and therefore preventing 
the system from initializing.

My other option would be to shutdown the DR z/VM environment and update the 
SYSTEM CONFIG without those ranges and create a new CPLOAD module to see if 
that is what is actually causing the z/VM system from fully initializing.


Thanks,
Steve





From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Scott Rohling
Sent: Thursday, February

Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

2011-02-17 Thread Mike Walter
Steve,

If I understand correctly your DASD is mirrored to your offsite location. 
If so the 1-pack recovery system would/could be mirrored there as well.
Then there would be no need to keep a DDR tape dump of that volume there. 
But when preparing for D.R. both belts and suspenders (and offsite clean 
underwear) is a good idea anyway.

BTW, if you had a test z/VM system which could be IPLed on the bare iron 
(i.e. the volsers do not begin on cylinder 1, as is often suggested here 
for 2nd level systems), the test system would suffice to recover just as 
well as a 1-pack recovery system.  We must wear both belts and suspenders 
here, as we have both.  I try to have as many ways out of any hole I might 
dig as possible - and plenty of clean bandages for the holes I might shoot 
in my foot.

Our 1-pack recovery system was built the Monday following a change made to 
the SYSTEM CONFIG while preparing for a D.R. test.  Due to those SYSTEM 
CONFIG changes we could not IPL either.  A separate z/VM system (already 
in place for z/OS guests) was used during our D.R. test to DEFINE MDISK 
and correct the production system SYSTEM CONFIG file.  We could just rely 
on that other system, but as things change, often in a hurry (e.g. systems 
moving between data centers), I feel more comfortable with a 
rarely-changed 1-pack recovery system.  We place it on an rdev with an 
easy to remember address (in this case it's 900, but 666 would be even 
easier if we had that as a DASD address).

BTW, we have a D.R. test this weekend.  If things go normally, we'll be 
given the LPAR at about 23:00 Saturday, and be done by about 00:15 -- 
really only needing about 15 minutes to IPL, but doing a few double-checks 
anyway.  z/VM... gotta love it!  :-) 

If you're reading this and are new to z/VM, take one thing away... build a 
stable (tested and rarely changed) 1-pack z/VM recovery system.  It could 
save your job one day (or dark night).

Mike Walter
Aon Corporation
The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. 



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Mike,
 
The answer to both those question is 1) yes 2) no.
 
Our DR remote location has 2 LPARs dedicated for our DR Testing.  One LPAR 
is for z/OS and the other for z/VM. 
 
I will keep your recovery scenario/suggestion in mind.  It looks like 
something that can be useful in the future when the need arises with the 
ideal scenario that you posed.  Thank you for your insight.
 
 
Steve
 

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On 
Behalf Of Mike Walter
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:42 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG


Steve, 

1) Do you know the volser, and the start and end cylinders of your MAINT 
CF1 disk? 
2) Do you have another z/VM system available (even your D.R. provider's 
Floor system)? 
 
If the answer to both of those is yes, then you're home free... 

- Shutdown your partly IPLed z/VM system with the bad config file. 

From MAINT on that other z/VM system, CP ATTACH your IPL volume to that 
system: 
- CP ATTACH rdev SYSTEM   
- CP DEFINE MDISK EEE start_cyl end_cyl volser 
- ACCESS EEE W 
- XEDIT SYSTEM CONFIG W 
- fix and FILE the config  file 
- CPSYNTAX SYSTEM CONFIG W 
- RELEASE W (DET 
- Bring up your system with the corrected SYSTEM CONFIG file. 
- Make note of what needs to be fixed when back home. 

For you, and anyone else who doesn't have one... 
When home, 
- build a 1-pack stand-alone rescue system.  Ours is called the VM 
Operating System Hipervisor Tool, and resides on a disk with a matching 
volser: VMOSHT.  That volser is easy to remember, easy to find, and pretty 
self-explanatory.  :-) 
- Test that 1-pack stand-alone rescue system 2nd level (i.e. from your own 
personal Class G userid, without any special DASD attached.  If it needs 
resources that it doesn't have to come up to the point that MAINT can 
issue CP DEFINE MDISK, then it's not a stand-alone recovery system. 
- DDR that volser to tapes, and ensure that a copy is kept onsite, and a 
copy at your offsite vault. 

Good Luck! 

Mike Walter
Aon Corporation
The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. 




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I do not have another filename to specify.  I can create one at a later 
time after we finish this test because we have a time frame to get this 
test to work, but in the meantime, is there an override command to the 
DEVICES OFFLINE_AT_IPL statement in the SYSTEM

Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

2011-02-17 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 02/17/2011 at 03:18 EST, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com 
wrote:
 You specify the filename of the desired CONFIG file in a provided space.

On SAPL: fn=filename
On the LOADPARM:  FNxx  (yep, limited to 6 chars in filename)

Alan Altmark

z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant
IBM System Lab Services and Training 
ibm.com/systems/services/labservices 
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mobile; 607.321.7556
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Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

2011-02-17 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 02/17/2011 at 05:48 EST, Mike Walter 
mike.wal...@aonhewitt.com wrote:

 If you're reading this and are new to z/VM, take one thing away... build 
a 
 stable (tested and rarely changed) 1-pack z/VM recovery system.  It 
could save 
 your job one day (or dark night).

The truly paranoid keep a .iso copy of the DVD in each location (or burn 
extra physical copies and keep it with your emergency ops manual).  The 
ramdisk-based installation system can be used to repair other systems.  It 
will run even if nothing else will.

Alan Altmark

z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant
IBM System Lab Services and Training 
ibm.com/systems/services/labservices 
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mobile; 607.321.7556
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Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

2011-02-17 Thread Perez, Steve S
Thanks, Alan and all who have responded.  It has been a learning experience and 
appreciate everyone's input.

Kind Regards,
Steve  

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To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG

On Thursday, 02/17/2011 at 05:48 EST, Mike Walter mike.wal...@aonhewitt.com 
wrote:

 If you're reading this and are new to z/VM, take one thing away... 
 build
a 
 stable (tested and rarely changed) 1-pack z/VM recovery system.  It
could save 
 your job one day (or dark night).

The truly paranoid keep a .iso copy of the DVD in each location (or burn extra 
physical copies and keep it with your emergency ops manual).  The ramdisk-based 
installation system can be used to repair other systems.  It will run even if 
nothing else will.

Alan Altmark

z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant
IBM System Lab Services and Training
ibm.com/systems/services/labservices
office: 607.429.3323
mobile; 607.321.7556
alan_altm...@us.ibm.com
IBM Endicott
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