Re: How to create a CP Disabled Wait State?

2007-12-06 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 12/05/2007 at 01:20 EST, Dave Keeton 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm working through Appendix E in the DirMaint Tailoring and Admin guide 

 (SC24-6135-01) and I'm not sure how to complete one of the steps. I'm on 
step 
 9,  Test DirMaint's automatic restart and recovery and I'm not sure 
how to 
 Create a CP disabled wait state.
 
 How does one go about creating this condition? I've encountered it 
before; I 
 see it when a Linux guest is shutdown and the guest is still logged on. 
I don't 
 know how to force this condition. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

The DIRMAINT reference is to the protected application environment 
enabled by CP SET CONCEAL ON or OPTION CONCEAL in the directory.  Anything 
that causes the virtual machine to reset or load a disabled wait state 
(#CP BEGIN 0 is a good one) will trigger an automatic re-IPL.

Please submit a Reader's Comment Form.  It is a virtual machine disabled 
wait state, not CP!  :-)

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: How to create a CP Disabled Wait State?

2007-12-06 Thread pfa
If it's an OPTION CONCEAL type Re-IPL, won't a simple CP SYSTEM RESET 
cause the re-IPL??
 



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On Wednesday, 12/05/2007 at 01:20 EST, Dave Keeton 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm working through Appendix E in the DirMaint Tailoring and Admin guide 


 (SC24-6135-01) and I'm not sure how to complete one of the steps. I'm on 

step 
 9,  Test DirMaint's automatic restart and recovery and I'm not sure 
how to 
 Create a CP disabled wait state.
 
 How does one go about creating this condition? I've encountered it 
before; I 
 see it when a Linux guest is shutdown and the guest is still logged on. 
I don't 
 know how to force this condition. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

The DIRMAINT reference is to the protected application environment 
enabled by CP SET CONCEAL ON or OPTION CONCEAL in the directory.  Anything 

that causes the virtual machine to reset or load a disabled wait state 
(#CP BEGIN 0 is a good one) will trigger an automatic re-IPL.

Please submit a Reader's Comment Form.  It is a virtual machine disabled 

wait state, not CP!  :-)

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott



Re: How to create a CP Disabled Wait State?

2007-12-06 Thread Berry van Sleeuwen
Hello Dave,

Use CP SYSTEM CLEAR.

I had to look for it, it is mentioned in the program directory for DIRMAI
NT
from a few years ago (5748XE4 that came with VM 2.x). Under testing DIRMA
INT
command CP SYSTEM CLEAR is being used to test the restart.

For some reason the appendix testing dirmaint has been left out the progr
am
directory for zvm4.4 and later. I can't find it in the tailoring and
adminstration guide either.

Regards, Berry.


Re: How to create a CP Disabled Wait State?

2007-12-06 Thread Mike Walter
or...
---snip---
set conceal on  
MRWALTER; T=0.01/0.01 12:32:09  
CP STore PSW DEAD  
Store complete.  
DMSITP143T Specification exception occurred at DEAF in system routine 
CP; re-IPL CMS  
DMSDIE3550I All APPC/VM and IUCV paths have been severed.  
DMSWSP314W Automatic re-IPL by CP due to disabled wait; PSW 000A 
 
I pressed ENTER at this point, which with CP CONCEAL ON, initiated the 
expected guest IPL 
z/VM V5.1.02005-11-18 16:11  
---snip---

Store the PSW as DEAD, and the virtual machine goes DEAF.  Makes complete 
sense to me (in accord with the POO). 
Then with CONCEAL set on, everything went   (too bad it couldn't 
go FFFT.  Makes complete sense to me (in accord with the POO). ;-)

Alternatively:
---snip---
CP STore PSW BAB  
Store complete.  
DMSITP143T Specification exception occurred at 0BAD in system routine 
CP; re-IPL CMS  
DMSDIE3550I All APPC/VM and IUCV paths have been severed.  
...
---snip---

Mike Walter 
Hewitt Associates 
Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily 
represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.



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On Thursday, 12/06/2007 at 11:46 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If it's an OPTION CONCEAL type Re-IPL, won't a simple CP SYSTEM RESET 
cause the 
 re-IPL?? 

Yes, anything that causes the virtual machine to reset.  You can use:
SYSTEM CLEAR
SYSTEM RESET
DETACH CPU
DEFINE STORAGE
SET MACHINE
or the guest itself can load a disabled wait PSW (that's what BEGIN 0 
causes).

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott



 
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Re: How to create a CP Disabled Wait State?

2007-12-06 Thread McKown, John
NAH, I always liked a hard wait of DEADBEEF
 
 

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or... 
---snip--- 
set conceal on

MRWALTER; T=0.01/0.01 12:32:09

CP STore PSW DEAD

Store complete.

DMSITP143T Specification exception occurred at DEAF in
system routine CP; re-IPL CMS

DMSDIE3550I All APPC/VM and IUCV paths have been severed.

DMSWSP314W Automatic re-IPL by CP due to disabled wait; PSW
000A  
I pressed ENTER at this point, which with CP CONCEAL ON,
initiated the expected guest IPL 
z/VM V5.1.02005-11-18 16:11

---snip--- 

Store the PSW as DEAD, and the virtual machine goes DEAF.  Makes
complete sense to me (in accord with the POO).   
Then with CONCEAL set on, everything went   (too bad
it couldn't go FFFT.  Makes complete sense to me (in accord with
the POO).;-) 

Alternatively: 
---snip--- 
CP STore PSW BAB

Store complete.

DMSITP143T Specification exception occurred at 0BAD in
system routine CP; re-IPL CMS

DMSDIE3550I All APPC/VM and IUCV paths have been severed.

... 
---snip--- 

Mike Walter 
Hewitt Associates 
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necessarily represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. 



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On Thursday, 12/06/2007 at 11:46 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If it's an OPTION CONCEAL type Re-IPL, won't a simple CP
SYSTEM RESET 
cause the 
 re-IPL?? 

Yes, anything that causes the virtual machine to reset.  You
can use:
SYSTEM CLEAR
SYSTEM RESET
DETACH CPU
DEFINE STORAGE
SET MACHINE
or the guest itself can load a disabled wait PSW (that's what
BEGIN 0 
causes).

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott








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Re: How to create a CP Disabled Wait State?

2007-12-06 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 12/06/2007 at 11:46 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If it's an OPTION CONCEAL type Re-IPL, won't a simple CP SYSTEM RESET 
cause the 
 re-IPL?? 

Yes, anything that causes the virtual machine to reset.  You can use:
SYSTEM CLEAR
SYSTEM RESET
DETACH CPU
DEFINE STORAGE
SET MACHINE
or the guest itself can load a disabled wait PSW (that's what BEGIN 0 
causes).

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: How to create a CP Disabled Wait State?

2007-12-06 Thread pfa
Or, when you're ready for a C0FFEE break...
 
Alternatively: 
---snip--- 
CP STore PSW C0FFEC
Store complete.
DMSITP143T Specification exception occurred at 00C0FFEE in system routine 
CP; re-IPL CMS
DMSDIE3550I All APPC/VM and IUCV paths have been severed.




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or... 
---snip--- 
set conceal on   
MRWALTER; T=0.01/0.01 12:32:09   
CP STore PSW DEAD  
Store complete.  
DMSITP143T Specification exception occurred at DEAF in system routine 
CP; re-IPL CMS 
DMSDIE3550I All APPC/VM and IUCV paths have been severed.  
DMSWSP314W Automatic re-IPL by CP due to disabled wait; PSW 000A 
 
I pressed ENTER at this point, which with CP CONCEAL ON, initiated the 
expected guest IPL 
z/VM V5.1.02005-11-18 16:11  
---snip--- 

Store the PSW as DEAD, and the virtual machine goes DEAF.  Makes complete 
sense to me (in accord with the POO).   
Then with CONCEAL set on, everything went   (too bad it couldn't 
go FFFT.  Makes complete sense to me (in accord with the POO). ;-) 

Alternatively: 
---snip--- 
CP STore PSW BAB   
Store complete.  
DMSITP143T Specification exception occurred at 0BAD in system routine 
CP; re-IPL CMS 
DMSDIE3550I All APPC/VM and IUCV paths have been severed.  
... 
---snip--- 

Mike Walter 
Hewitt Associates 
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represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. 


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On Thursday, 12/06/2007 at 11:46 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If it's an OPTION CONCEAL type Re-IPL, won't a simple CP SYSTEM RESET 
cause the 
 re-IPL?? 

Yes, anything that causes the virtual machine to reset.  You can use:
SYSTEM CLEAR
SYSTEM RESET
DETACH CPU
DEFINE STORAGE
SET MACHINE
or the guest itself can load a disabled wait PSW (that's what BEGIN 0 
causes).

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


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Re: How to create a CP Disabled Wait State?

2007-12-05 Thread Kris Buelens
On can use the CP STORE command.

Here an extract of my RxServer code as response to a Signal Shutdown:
if shutdown='SHUTDOWN' then 'CP STORE PSW 000A 8FFF'

2007/12/5, Dave Keeton [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  I'm working through Appendix E in the DirMaint Tailoring and Admin guide
 (SC24-6135-01) and I'm not sure how to complete one of the steps. I'm on
 step 9,  Test DirMaint's automatic restart and recovery and I'm not sure
 how to Create a CP disabled wait state.

 How does one go about creating this condition? I've encountered it before;
 I see it when a Linux guest is shutdown and the guest is still logged on. I
 don't know how to force this condition. Any help would be greatly
 appreciated.

 Thanks in advance,
 Dave Keeton
 Oregon State Data Center




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Re: How to create a CP Disabled Wait State?

2007-12-05 Thread Thomas Kern
If you use the SHUTTRAP program from the IBM Downloads page to intercept 
the SIGNAL SHUTDOWN interrupt, you can terminate your code nicely and 
then load the Disabled Wait PSW to trigger CP to log you off AND 
properly inform the issuer of the SIGNAL SHUTDOWN command.


/Tom Kern

Jim Bohnsack wrote:
In glancing at the subject line, my first thought was why would 
anyone (other than maybe a developer in Endicott) want to create a CP 
Disabled Wait?


Jim

Kris Buelens wrote:

--=_Part_2456_31291049.1196879405992
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

On can use the CP STORE command.

Here an extract of my RxServer code as response to a Signal Shutdown:
if shutdown='SHUTDOWN' then 'CP STORE PSW 000A 8FFF'

2007/12/5, Dave Keeton [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 I'm working through Appendix E in the DirMaint Tailoring and Admin 
guide

(SC24-6135-01) and I'm not sure how to complete one of the steps. I'm on
step 9,  Test DirMaint's automatic restart and recovery and I'm not 
sure

how to Create a CP disabled wait state.

How does one go about creating this condition? I've encountered it 
before;
I see it when a Linux guest is shutdown and the guest is still logged 
on. I

don't know how to force this condition. Any help would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Dave Keeton
Oregon State Data Center






  





Re: How to create a CP Disabled Wait State?

2007-12-05 Thread Jim Bohnsack
In glancing at the subject line, my first thought was why would 
anyone (other than maybe a developer in Endicott) want to create a CP 
Disabled Wait?


Jim

Kris Buelens wrote:

--=_Part_2456_31291049.1196879405992
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

On can use the CP STORE command.

Here an extract of my RxServer code as response to a Signal Shutdown:
if shutdown='SHUTDOWN' then 'CP STORE PSW 000A 8FFF'

2007/12/5, Dave Keeton [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  

 I'm working through Appendix E in the DirMaint Tailoring and Admin guide
(SC24-6135-01) and I'm not sure how to complete one of the steps. I'm on
step 9,  Test DirMaint's automatic restart and recovery and I'm not sure
how to Create a CP disabled wait state.

How does one go about creating this condition? I've encountered it before;
I see it when a Linux guest is shutdown and the guest is still logged on. I
don't know how to force this condition. Any help would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Dave Keeton
Oregon State Data Center






  



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Re: How to create a CP Disabled Wait State?

2007-12-05 Thread Ron Schmiedge
I can make a CP disabled wait by IPLing my reader. Its full of stuff
that isn't iplable. Not sure what happens if it empty (my reader is
never empty)

 i c
HCPVMJ232E IPL UNIT ERROR; IRB 01404017 0010 020040C1 0080 SNS 8
000
HCPGIR450W CP entered; disabled wait PSW 000E 0232

Also not sure if that will be enough to make DIRMAINT do what you want.

Ron

On 12/5/07, Thomas Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If you use the SHUTTRAP program from the IBM Downloads page to intercept
 the SIGNAL SHUTDOWN interrupt, you can terminate your code nicely and
 then load the Disabled Wait PSW to trigger CP to log you off AND
 properly inform the issuer of the SIGNAL SHUTDOWN command.

 /Tom Kern

 Jim Bohnsack wrote:
  In glancing at the subject line, my first thought was why would
  anyone (other than maybe a developer in Endicott) want to create a CP
  Disabled Wait?
 
  Jim
 
  Kris Buelens wrote:
  --=_Part_2456_31291049.1196879405992
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
  Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
  Content-Disposition: inline
 
  On can use the CP STORE command.
 
  Here an extract of my RxServer code as response to a Signal Shutdown:
  if shutdown='SHUTDOWN' then 'CP STORE PSW 000A 8FFF'
 
  2007/12/5, Dave Keeton [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
   I'm working through Appendix E in the DirMaint Tailoring and Admin
  guide
  (SC24-6135-01) and I'm not sure how to complete one of the steps. I'm on
  step 9,  Test DirMaint's automatic restart and recovery and I'm not
  sure
  how to Create a CP disabled wait state.
 
  How does one go about creating this condition? I've encountered it
  before;
  I see it when a Linux guest is shutdown and the guest is still logged
  on. I
  don't know how to force this condition. Any help would be greatly
  appreciated.
 
  Thanks in advance,
  Dave Keeton
  Oregon State Data Center
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



Re: How to create a CP Disabled Wait State?

2007-12-05 Thread Mike Walter

Uh, so that the Wait State could get a parking space closer to the door?
Is it Friday yet?

Mike Walter


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To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
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In glancing at the subject line, my first thought was why would
anyone (other than maybe a developer in Endicott) want to create a CP
Disabled Wait?

Jim

Kris Buelens wrote:

--=_Part_2456_31291049.1196879405992
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

On can use the CP STORE command.

Here an extract of my RxServer code as response to a Signal Shutdown:
if shutdown='SHUTDOWN' then 'CP STORE PSW 000A 8FFF'

2007/12/5, Dave Keeton [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 I'm working through Appendix E in the DirMaint Tailoring and Admin guide
(SC24-6135-01) and I'm not sure how to complete one of the steps. I'm on
step 9,  Test DirMaint's automatic restart and recovery and I'm not sure
how to Create a CP disabled wait state.

How does one go about creating this condition? I've encountered it before;
I see it when a Linux guest is shutdown and the guest is still logged on. I
don't know how to force this condition. Any help would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Dave Keeton
Oregon State Data Center










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Re: How to create a CP Disabled Wait State?

2007-12-05 Thread Schuh, Richard
With an answer like that, it must be. And I thought it was the third
Monday of the week.

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 


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Uh, so that the Wait State could get a parking space closer to the door?
Is it Friday yet?

Mike Walter


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In glancing at the subject line, my first thought was why would
anyone (other than maybe a developer in Endicott) want to create a CP
Disabled Wait?

Jim

Kris Buelens wrote:
 --=_Part_2456_31291049.1196879405992
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
 Content-Disposition: inline

 On can use the CP STORE command.

 Here an extract of my RxServer code as response to a Signal Shutdown:
 if shutdown='SHUTDOWN' then 'CP STORE PSW 000A 8FFF'

 2007/12/5, Dave Keeton [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  I'm working through Appendix E in the DirMaint Tailoring and Admin
guide
 (SC24-6135-01) and I'm not sure how to complete one of the steps. I'm
on
 step 9,  Test DirMaint's automatic restart and recovery and I'm not
sure
 how to Create a CP disabled wait state.

 How does one go about creating this condition? I've encountered it
before;
 I see it when a Linux guest is shutdown and the guest is still logged
on. I
 don't know how to force this condition. Any help would be greatly
 appreciated.

 Thanks in advance,
 Dave Keeton
 Oregon State Data Center








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Cornell University
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