Re: Pushing replies to Linux SLES 11 upgrade from a REXX EXEC

2010-08-05 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 8/5/2010 at 09:09 AM, Tom Duggan wrote: 
> I'm trying to automate the replies up until the point in the
> process where SSH is launched to start yast.

Is this really an upgrade from a prior version, or a new install?  As others 
have pointed out, the parmfile will get you to the point of SSH running without 
any scripting.  If it is a brand new install, then you really want to use 
AutoYaST.  Beginning with SLES11, a complete AutoYaST file, coupled with the 
(declared) use of VNC will allow you to perform completely unattended installs. 
 That is, you don't have to connect via SSH or VNC for the install to run from 
start to finish.


Mark Post
Novell Technical Support


Re: Pushing replies to Linux SLES 11 upgrade from a REXX EXEC

2010-08-05 Thread Mike Walter
You've already received good responses to the original question. 

But there may be more when the question is looked at from a different 
direction.  Why would you need a script to reply to upgrade prompts?

Could you not have one "golden image" Linux server disk that is cloned for 
each server to use (or linked R/O)?  That's the beauty of running under 
z/VM... you can have one Linux "system disk", all linked read-only by many 
servers.  Then individual server upgrades are made simply by changing a 
LINK statement in their directory entry, shutting them down. logging them 
off, and XAUTOLOGing them back on.  They come up with the new (presumable 
well-tested) Linux distro maintenance.

Obviously, there are a lot of steps involved to get to that point - but it 
should be worth the effort of you have many Linux servers 
- you will save lots of disk space
- you know that all servers are running the same exact tested/audited 
system
- upgrade implementations become extremely easy (and more successful)

There are many IBM Redbooks, Redpapers, and other doc related to this 
method.  There is a 100% chance of someone else sharing (before the end of 
the day) pointers to current-state methods to do this.

Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates
The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's.



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I hope this gets through...(and a Hello! from a new member if it does!)

I've been assigned a recent project of trying to automate
the initial responses of a SLES 11 upgrade to servers
running under z/VM 5.3.

I'm trying to automate the replies up until the point in the
process where SSH is launched to start yast.

I've tried PUSH and QUEUE without success.  I'm more of a VM'er
than "Linuxite" and just looking for a nudge in the right direction.

I'm working on a 3270 emulator macro (Passport PC to Host) at present,
which is a little tedious.

What I'm seeing is after the guest machine's reader is IPL'd, CMS
goes away and we're in a Linux environment, no?






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Re: Pushing replies to Linux SLES 11 upgrade from a REXX EXEC

2010-08-05 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 08/05/2010 at 09:37 EDT, Tom Duggan  
wrote:
> I hope this gets through...(and a Hello! from a new member if it does!)
> 
> I've been assigned a recent project of trying to automate
> the initial responses of a SLES 11 upgrade to servers
> running under z/VM 5.3.
> 
> I'm trying to automate the replies up until the point in the
> process where SSH is launched to start yast.
> 
> I've tried PUSH and QUEUE without success.  I'm more of a VM'er
> than "Linuxite" and just looking for a nudge in the right direction.
> 
> I'm working on a 3270 emulator macro (Passport PC to Host) at present,
> which is a little tedious.
> 
> What I'm seeing is after the guest machine's reader is IPL'd, CMS
> goes away and we're in a Linux environment, no?

That's exactly right.  Automation if this sort requires TWO virtual 
machines.  One drives the other via the Single Console Image Facility 
(SCIF):

UserA:  CP SET SECUSER USERB
UserB:  CP SEND CP USERA IPL 999
UserB:  
UserB:  CP SEND USERA Answer number 1
UserB:  
UserB:  CP SEND USERA Answer number 2
and so on.

All command output and other virtual machine console I/O is sent to UserB. 
 UserB can trap it with the WAKEUP command or other home-grown solutions.

There are commercial automation offerings such as IBM Operations Manager 
for z/VM that have this kind of thing already built into them (among other 
capabilities).  You tell them what user(s) to watch, what to watch for, 
and how to respond.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: Pushing replies to Linux SLES 11 upgrade from a REXX EXEC

2010-08-05 Thread Mark Pace
A config file with all the prompts and responses is what you're looking for.
 Something like this

RAMDISK_SIZE=98304 ROOT=/DEV/RAM1 RO INIT=/LINUXRC TERM=DUMB
HostIP=nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn   Hostname=host.domain
Gateway=nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn Nameserver=nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn
InstNetDev=osa  Netmask=255.255.255.0 Broadcast=nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn
OsaInterface=qdio OsaMedium=eth ReadChannel=0.0.0100
WriteChannel=0.0.0101 DataChannel=0.0.0102 portname=SWCH1
Install=http://nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn/sles10-sp2 OSAHWAddr=''
PortNo=0 Usevnc=1 layer2=1 vncpassword=password

On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Tom Duggan  wrote:

> I hope this gets through...(and a Hello! from a new member if it does!)
>
> I've been assigned a recent project of trying to automate
> the initial responses of a SLES 11 upgrade to servers
> running under z/VM 5.3.
>
> I'm trying to automate the replies up until the point in the
> process where SSH is launched to start yast.
>
> I've tried PUSH and QUEUE without success.  I'm more of a VM'er
> than "Linuxite" and just looking for a nudge in the right direction.
>
> I'm working on a 3270 emulator macro (Passport PC to Host) at present,
> which is a little tedious.
>
> What I'm seeing is after the guest machine's reader is IPL'd, CMS
> goes away and we're in a Linux environment, no?
>



-- 
Mark D Pace
Senior Systems Engineer
Mainline Information Systems