Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER
The DIRMAP utility is smart enough that if a full pack minidisk is defined that matches the size of a device, it doesn't flag it as an overlap. So, I define a userid named $DASD$ (mainly because this is how internal IBM systems were set up) that defines the full size of each disk. For example: USER $DASD$ NOLOG MDISK 0A00 3390 0 3339 610RES R MDISK 0A01 3390 0 3339 610SPL R MDISK 0A02 3390 0 3339 610PAG R MDISK 0A03 3390 0 3339 610W01 R MDISK 0A04 3390 0 3339 610W02 R The easy way to do this is copy $ALLOC$ and change the end cylinder. Now DIRMAP knows the true size of each dasd and shows any gap at the end. On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Tom Duerbusch wrote: > For decades I've been using $ENDPAK$ userid to define the last cylinder of > each pack. That, along with $ALLOC$ for cylinder 0, has allowed DISKMAP to > show trailing gaps. > > I never thought about it, but I should have defined the last cylinder to be > (last cylinder + 1) i.e. 3340 cylinders for a 3390-3. Currently, I get the > *OVERLAP* flag when I do use the last cylinder. > > Tom Duerbusch > THD Consulting > >>>> "Frank M. Ramaekers" 1/5/2011 3:12 PM >>> > These tools (DIRMAP and MDISKMAP) have no ideas how many cylinders a > device has (unless you told it by defining a full pack mini-disk). > > > > > > Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. > > > > > > > > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On > Behalf Of George Henke/NYLIC > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 2:51 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER > > > > This is great, George, ty. > > Just one problem. > > It does not show the GAPs after the last extent on a VOLSER. > > It would be nice to know the GAPS on the tailend of a VOLSER also. > > Must I put a dummy entry on the last cylinder to generate a GAP in > DIRMAP and/or DISKMAP? > > Is there a workaround for this on VM Tools? > > > > > gclo...@br.ibm.com > Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System > > 01/05/2011 07:26 AM > > Please respond to > The IBM z/VM Operating System > > To > > IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > > cc > > > > Subject > > Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER > > > > > > > > > > > George: > Not sure we understand the question, but... > > Without DIRMAINT, try "DIRMAP (GAPFILE DEVSORT" > - Generate two files, one with only the Gaps and other with the > allocated cylinders, both classified by VOLSER. > > With DIRMAINT, try "DIRM FREE" and "DIRM USED" to get files like the > same proposal... Or, "DIRM DIRMAP (GAPFILE DEVSORT" > > > "DIRM HELP DIRMAP" shows: > > > Devsort > > requests that the report is to be sorted by device type followed by > volume > label. The default is to sort by volume label. > > > > Gapfile > > Generate a file listing gaps in addition to a report detailing the > current > DASD utilization. > > > > Note: If you use the GAPFILE option without using the EXCLUDE option > and > excluded full volume overlays are defined on your system no > gap > data will be returned. Use the EXCLUDE option to eliminate > the > excluded full volume overlays from consideration when building > the > gap data. > > The gapfile is listed in the following format: > > Field Use > > 1 volid of disk > > 2 device type of disk. > > 3 start cylinder/block of gap > > 4 end cylinder/block of gap > > 5 number of cylinders/blocks in gap > > > > Note: All fields are blank delimited and not bound to a > specific > column range. > > > __ > Clovis > > From: > > Mike Walter > > To: > > IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > > Date: > > 04/01/2011 19:33 > > Subject: > > Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER > > Sent by: > > The IBM z/VM Operating System > > > > > > > > > > Or better yet... _why_? > > It sounds as if you want to display users and mdisks, sorted by user > (and perhaps mdisk, too) which reside between gaps. > But _why_? What are you attempting to do? > > Mike Walter > Aon Corporation > The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. > > "Tom Huegel" > > Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" > > 01/04/2011 03:26 PM > > Please respond to > "The IBM z/VM Op
Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER
> The need for humans to tell the machine how big a disk is strikes me as cosmic humor. That's as funny as ... as ... as having a $1M computer ask you to look at at your $15 Mickey Mouse watch and tell it what time it is when you IPL it. Even more comically humorous to me is that without specially paid for extra hardware, that $1M computer (obviously someone is getting a very good deal on 196's!), that computer's own internal clock is no more accurate than Mickey! Someone should be ashamed! Mike Walter Aon Corporation (Sent from the wee keyboard of a Blackberry.) - Original Message - From: "Alan Altmark" [alan_altm...@us.ibm.com] Sent: 01/05/2011 06:36 PM EST To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER On Wednesday, 01/05/2011 at 06:18 EST, gclo...@br.ibm.com wrote: > Hi, George. > As Kris said, the program don't know the real end of the dasd. He assumes the > model enough to accommodate the last cylinder defined. Due the same problem, > avoid use "0 END" for fullpacks. Maybe fix the program to do a QUERY DASD DETAIL to find out how big the volume is? Yeah, you have to run it from an authorized id, but that shouldn't be an issue. The need for humans to tell the machine how big a disk is strikes me as cosmic humor. That's as funny as ... as ... as having a $1M computer ask you to look at at your $15 Mickey Mouse watch and tell it what time it is when you IPL it. Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by e-mail.
Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER
On Wednesday, 01/05/2011 at 06:47 EST, gclo...@br.ibm.com wrote: > But we are talking about the DIRMAP (and DISKMAP), two IBM programs. > This justify to open a Request-For-Change? You don't need justification to open a Requirement. IBM needs justification to actually fix it, however, and that could come from the sheer volume of clients asking for the same thing. But if you don't ask for a change, changes will certainly never be made. Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER
Hi, Alan. >> Maybe fix the program to do a QUERY DASD DETAIL to find out how big the >> volume is? Agreed. But we are talking about the DIRMAP (and DISKMAP), two IBM programs. This justify to open a Request-For-Change? TIA, __ Clovis From: Alan Altmark To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 01/05/2011 09:37 PM Subject: Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System On Wednesday, 01/05/2011 at 06:18 EST, gclo...@br.ibm.com wrote: > Hi, George. > As Kris said, the program don't know the real end of the dasd. He assumes the > model enough to accommodate the last cylinder defined. Due the same problem, > avoid use "0 END" for fullpacks. Maybe fix the program to do a QUERY DASD DETAIL to find out how big the volume is? Yeah, you have to run it from an authorized id, but that shouldn't be an issue. The need for humans to tell the machine how big a disk is strikes me as cosmic humor. That's as funny as ... as ... as having a $1M computer ask you to look at at your $15 Mickey Mouse watch and tell it what time it is when you IPL it. Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER
On Wednesday, 01/05/2011 at 06:18 EST, gclo...@br.ibm.com wrote: > Hi, George. > As Kris said, the program don't know the real end of the dasd. He assumes the > model enough to accommodate the last cylinder defined. Due the same problem, > avoid use "0 END" for fullpacks. Maybe fix the program to do a QUERY DASD DETAIL to find out how big the volume is? Yeah, you have to run it from an authorized id, but that shouldn't be an issue. The need for humans to tell the machine how big a disk is strikes me as cosmic humor. That's as funny as ... as ... as having a $1M computer ask you to look at at your $15 Mickey Mouse watch and tell it what time it is when you IPL it. Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER
Hi, George. As Kris said, the program don't know the real end of the dasd. He assumes the model enough to accommodate the last cylinder defined. Due the same problem, avoid use "0 END" for fullpacks. To bypass it: Without DIRMAINT: define a dummy machine with all fullpack. Good for backup purposes too... SYSDUMP1 is a good candidate. With DIRMAINT: see EXTENT CONTROL file. Specify the correct dasd TYPE (ex. 3390-09), in :REGIONS. section. The TYPEs (sizes) are described in DEFAULTS DATADVH file. If you already uses the dummy fullpack machine, put it on :EXCLUDE. section, to avoid a false "No gaps available". __ Clovis From: George Henke/NYLIC To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 01/05/2011 06:51 PM Subject: Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System This is great, George, ty. Just one problem. It does not show the GAPs after the last extent on a VOLSER. It would be nice to know the GAPS on the tailend of a VOLSER also. Must I put a dummy entry on the last cylinder to generate a GAP in DIRMAP and/or DISKMAP? Is there a workaround for this on VM Tools? gclo...@br.ibm.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System 01/05/2011 07:26 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER George: Not sure we understand the question, but... Without DIRMAINT, try "DIRMAP (GAPFILE DEVSORT" - Generate two files, one with only the Gaps and other with the allocated cylinders, both classified by VOLSER. With DIRMAINT, try "DIRM FREE" and "DIRM USED" to get files like the same proposal... Or, "DIRM DIRMAP (GAPFILE DEVSORT" "DIRM HELP DIRMAP" shows: Devsort requests that the report is to be sorted by device type followed by volume label. The default is to sort by volume label. Gapfile Generate a file listing gaps in addition to a report detailing the current DASD utilization. Note: If you use the GAPFILE option without using the EXCLUDE option and excluded full volume overlays are defined on your system no gap data will be returned. Use the EXCLUDE option to eliminate the excluded full volume overlays from consideration when building the gap data. The gapfile is listed in the following format: Field Use 1volid of disk 2device type of disk. 3start cylinder/block of gap 4end cylinder/block of gap 5number of cylinders/blocks in gap Note: All fields are blank delimited and not bound to a specific column range. __ Clovis From: Mike Walter To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 04/01/2011 19:33 Subject: Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System Or better yet... _why_? It sounds as if you want to display users and mdisks, sorted by user (and perhaps mdisk, too) which reside between gaps. But _why_? What are you attempting to do? Mike Walter Aon Corporation The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. "Tom Huegel" Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 01/04/2011 03:26 PM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER I don't understand your question.. If there is a GAP then there is no USER. ??? On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:13 PM, George Henke/NYLIC < george_he...@newyorklife.com> wrote: Does anybody have anything like a PIPE command or a utility to do this sort of thing, sort the DIRECTORY DISKMAP on USER within GAPS? I am sure DIRMAINT would obviate the necessity for such a thing, but right now this is all I can do. The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by e-mail.
Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER
DIRMAP has a table of known disksizes (and one can define extra in a control file). DIRMAP guesses the size of a pack by looking at the last cylinder being used. For example: the last minidisk ends on cyl 400 --> DIRMAP thinks it is a model 1, 1113 cylinders and will report 401-1112 as gap I'll send you the document I wrote to tell my former customer how I set up our directory (with a FULLPACK user for example). 2011/1/5 George Henke/NYLIC > This is great, George, ty. > > Just one problem. > > It does not show the GAPs after the last extent on a VOLSER. > > It would be nice to know the GAPS on the tailend of a VOLSER also. > > Must I put a dummy entry on the last cylinder to generate a GAP in DIRMAP > and/or DISKMAP? > > Is there a workaround for this on VM Tools? > > > > *gclo...@br.ibm.com* > Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System > > 01/05/2011 07:26 AM > Please respond to > The IBM z/VM Operating System > > To > IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > cc > Subject > Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER > > > > > George: > Not sure we understand the question, but... > > Without DIRMAINT, try "DIRMAP (GAPFILE DEVSORT" > - Generate two files, one with only the Gaps and other with the allocated > cylinders, both classified by VOLSER. > > With DIRMAINT, try "DIRM FREE" and "DIRM USED" to get files like the same > proposal... Or, "DIRM DIRMAP (GAPFILE DEVSORT" > > > "DIRM HELP DIRMAP" shows: > > > Devsort > >requests that the report is to be sorted by device type followed by > volume >label. The default is to sort by volume label. > > > > Gapfile > >Generate a file listing gaps in addition to a report detailing the > current >DASD utilization. > > > >Note: If you use the GAPFILE option without using the EXCLUDE option > and > excluded full volume overlays are defined on your system no gap > > data will be returned. Use the EXCLUDE option to eliminate the > > excluded full volume overlays from consideration when building > the > gap data. > >The gapfile is listed in the following format: >Field Use > >1volid of disk > >2device type of disk. > >3start cylinder/block of gap > > >4end cylinder/block of gap > > 5number of cylinders/blocks in gap > > > > Note: All fields are blank delimited and not bound to a specific > >column range. > > > __ > Clovis > > From: Mike Walter To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Date: 04/01/2011 19:33 Subject: Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER Sent > by: The IBM z/VM Operating System > > -- > > > > > Or better yet... _why_? > > It sounds as if you want to display users and mdisks, sorted by user (and > perhaps mdisk, too) which reside between gaps. > But _why_? What are you attempting to do? > > Mike Walter > Aon Corporation > The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. > *"Tom Huegel" * > > Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" > > 01/04/2011 03:26 PM > Please respond to > "The IBM z/VM Operating System" > > > To > IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > cc > Subject > Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER > > > > > > > > > I don't understand your question.. If there is a GAP then there is no USER. > ??? > > On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:13 PM, George Henke/NYLIC <* > george_he...@newyorklife.com* > wrote: > Does anybody have anything like a PIPE command or a utility to do this sort > of thing, sort the DIRECTORY DISKMAP on USER within GAPS? > > I am sure DIRMAINT would obviate the necessity for such a thing, but right > now this is all I can do. > > -- > > The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may > contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from > disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if > this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert > the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any > attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of > this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly > prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be > monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure > compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails > are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be > intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed > to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by e-mail. > > -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER
On: Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 03:50:30PM -0500,George Henke/NYLIC Wrote: } Just one problem. } It does not show the GAPs after the last extent on a VOLSER. } It would be nice to know the GAPS on the tailend of a VOLSER also. } Must I put a dummy entry on the last cylinder to generate a GAP in DIRMAP } and/or DISKMAP? } } Is there a workaround for this on VM Tools? At my last job before I retired to a life of ease :-) I had a large series of execs and xedit macros that produced a map of each DSAD including gaps and the gap after the last user mdisk (if any). I don't want to post it because its too big and uses some charactistics of the installation you might not have, but here are a few lines of a macro that discovered the number of cylinders on the DASD so you could check for a gap at the end: 'NFIND __' /* Get */ 'EXTRACT /CURLINE/'/* the */ vsn = translate(left(curline.3,6)) /*volser.*/ parse value diagrc(8,'QUERY DASD' vsn, 80) with cp_rc . . cuu err '15'x if cp_rc ^= 0 | err = 'was not found.' /* Error? */ then iterate/* Yes, ignore this vol. */ parse value diagrc(8,'QUERY DASD DETAILS' cuu) with cp_rc . , 'CYLS =' ncyl '15'x if cp_rc ^= 0 /* Error?*/ then iterate/* Yes, ignore this vol. */ ncyl = strip(ncyl, 'L')/* Drop leading blanks. */ Note: You need priv class D (at least) to do this. -- Rich Greenberg Sarasota, FL, USA richgr atsign panix.com + 1 941 378 2097 Eastern time. N6LRT I speak for myself & my dogs only.VM'er since CP-67 Canines: Val, Red, Shasta, Zero & Casey (At the bridge)Owner:Chinook-L Canines: Red & Cinnar (Siberians) Retired at the beach Asst Owner:Sibernet-L
Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER
Not sure, but I think DIRMAP would see that as a 3390-4 then.. You need to define a dummy as 1 3339 it won't see overlaps then. On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Tom Duerbusch wrote: > For decades I've been using $ENDPAK$ userid to define the last cylinder of > each pack. That, along with $ALLOC$ for cylinder 0, has allowed DISKMAP to > show trailing gaps. > > I never thought about it, but I should have defined the last cylinder to be > (last cylinder + 1) i.e. 3340 cylinders for a 3390-3. Currently, I get the > *OVERLAP* flag when I do use the last cylinder. > > Tom Duerbusch > THD Consulting > > >>> "Frank M. Ramaekers" 1/5/2011 3:12 PM >>> > These tools (DIRMAP and MDISKMAP) have no ideas how many cylinders a > device has (unless you told it by defining a full pack mini-disk). > > > > > > Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. > > > > > > > > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On > Behalf Of George Henke/NYLIC > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 2:51 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER > > > > This is great, George, ty. > > Just one problem. > > It does not show the GAPs after the last extent on a VOLSER. > > It would be nice to know the GAPS on the tailend of a VOLSER also. > > Must I put a dummy entry on the last cylinder to generate a GAP in > DIRMAP and/or DISKMAP? > > Is there a workaround for this on VM Tools? > > > > > gclo...@br.ibm.com > Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System > > 01/05/2011 07:26 AM > > Please respond to > The IBM z/VM Operating System > > To > > IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > > cc > > > > Subject > > Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER > > > > > > > > > > > George: > Not sure we understand the question, but... > > Without DIRMAINT, try "DIRMAP (GAPFILE DEVSORT" > - Generate two files, one with only the Gaps and other with the > allocated cylinders, both classified by VOLSER. > > With DIRMAINT, try "DIRM FREE" and "DIRM USED" to get files like the > same proposal... Or, "DIRM DIRMAP (GAPFILE DEVSORT" > > > "DIRM HELP DIRMAP" shows: > > > Devsort > > requests that the report is to be sorted by device type followed by > volume > label. The default is to sort by volume label. > > > > Gapfile > > Generate a file listing gaps in addition to a report detailing the > current > DASD utilization. > > > > Note: If you use the GAPFILE option without using the EXCLUDE option > and > excluded full volume overlays are defined on your system no > gap > data will be returned. Use the EXCLUDE option to eliminate > the > excluded full volume overlays from consideration when building > the > gap data. > > The gapfile is listed in the following format: > > Field Use > > 1volid of disk > > 2device type of disk. > > 3start cylinder/block of gap > > 4end cylinder/block of gap > > 5number of cylinders/blocks in gap > > > >Note: All fields are blank delimited and not bound to a > specific > column range. > > > __ > Clovis > > From: > > Mike Walter > > To: > > IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > > Date: > > 04/01/2011 19:33 > > Subject: > > Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER > > Sent by: > > The IBM z/VM Operating System > > > > > > > > > > Or better yet... _why_? > > It sounds as if you want to display users and mdisks, sorted by user > (and perhaps mdisk, too) which reside between gaps. > But _why_? What are you attempting to do? > > Mike Walter > Aon Corporation > The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. > > "Tom Huegel" > > Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" > > 01/04/2011 03:26 PM > > Please respond to > "The IBM z/VM Operating System" > > > > To > > IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > > cc > > > > Subject > > Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't understand your question.. If there is a GAP then there is no > USER. ??? > > On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:13 PM, George Henke/NYLIC > wrote: > Does anybody have anything like a PIPE command or a utility to do this > sort of thing, sort the DIREC
Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER
For decades I've been using $ENDPAK$ userid to define the last cylinder of each pack. That, along with $ALLOC$ for cylinder 0, has allowed DISKMAP to show trailing gaps. I never thought about it, but I should have defined the last cylinder to be (last cylinder + 1) i.e. 3340 cylinders for a 3390-3. Currently, I get the *OVERLAP* flag when I do use the last cylinder. Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting >>> "Frank M. Ramaekers" 1/5/2011 3:12 PM >>> These tools (DIRMAP and MDISKMAP) have no ideas how many cylinders a device has (unless you told it by defining a full pack mini-disk). Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of George Henke/NYLIC Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 2:51 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER This is great, George, ty. Just one problem. It does not show the GAPs after the last extent on a VOLSER. It would be nice to know the GAPS on the tailend of a VOLSER also. Must I put a dummy entry on the last cylinder to generate a GAP in DIRMAP and/or DISKMAP? Is there a workaround for this on VM Tools? gclo...@br.ibm.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System 01/05/2011 07:26 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER George: Not sure we understand the question, but... Without DIRMAINT, try "DIRMAP (GAPFILE DEVSORT" - Generate two files, one with only the Gaps and other with the allocated cylinders, both classified by VOLSER. With DIRMAINT, try "DIRM FREE" and "DIRM USED" to get files like the same proposal... Or, "DIRM DIRMAP (GAPFILE DEVSORT" "DIRM HELP DIRMAP" shows: Devsort requests that the report is to be sorted by device type followed by volume label. The default is to sort by volume label. Gapfile Generate a file listing gaps in addition to a report detailing the current DASD utilization. Note: If you use the GAPFILE option without using the EXCLUDE option and excluded full volume overlays are defined on your system no gap data will be returned. Use the EXCLUDE option to eliminate the excluded full volume overlays from consideration when building the gap data. The gapfile is listed in the following format: Field Use 1volid of disk 2device type of disk. 3start cylinder/block of gap 4end cylinder/block of gap 5number of cylinders/blocks in gap Note: All fields are blank delimited and not bound to a specific column range. __ Clovis From: Mike Walter To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 04/01/2011 19:33 Subject: Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System Or better yet... _why_? It sounds as if you want to display users and mdisks, sorted by user (and perhaps mdisk, too) which reside between gaps. But _why_? What are you attempting to do? Mike Walter Aon Corporation The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. "Tom Huegel" Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 01/04/2011 03:26 PM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER I don't understand your question.. If there is a GAP then there is no USER. ??? On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:13 PM, George Henke/NYLIC wrote: Does anybody have anything like a PIPE command or a utility to do this sort of thing, sort the DIRECTORY DISKMAP on USER within GAPS? I am sure DIRMAINT would obviate the necessity for such a thing, but right now this is all I can do. The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amend
Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER
These tools (DIRMAP and MDISKMAP) have no ideas how many cylinders a device has (unless you told it by defining a full pack mini-disk). Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of George Henke/NYLIC Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 2:51 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER This is great, George, ty. Just one problem. It does not show the GAPs after the last extent on a VOLSER. It would be nice to know the GAPS on the tailend of a VOLSER also. Must I put a dummy entry on the last cylinder to generate a GAP in DIRMAP and/or DISKMAP? Is there a workaround for this on VM Tools? gclo...@br.ibm.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System 01/05/2011 07:26 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER George: Not sure we understand the question, but... Without DIRMAINT, try "DIRMAP (GAPFILE DEVSORT" - Generate two files, one with only the Gaps and other with the allocated cylinders, both classified by VOLSER. With DIRMAINT, try "DIRM FREE" and "DIRM USED" to get files like the same proposal... Or, "DIRM DIRMAP (GAPFILE DEVSORT" "DIRM HELP DIRMAP" shows: Devsort requests that the report is to be sorted by device type followed by volume label. The default is to sort by volume label. Gapfile Generate a file listing gaps in addition to a report detailing the current DASD utilization. Note: If you use the GAPFILE option without using the EXCLUDE option and excluded full volume overlays are defined on your system no gap data will be returned. Use the EXCLUDE option to eliminate the excluded full volume overlays from consideration when building the gap data. The gapfile is listed in the following format: Field Use 1volid of disk 2device type of disk. 3start cylinder/block of gap 4end cylinder/block of gap 5number of cylinders/blocks in gap Note: All fields are blank delimited and not bound to a specific column range. __ Clovis From: Mike Walter To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 04/01/2011 19:33 Subject: Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System Or better yet... _why_? It sounds as if you want to display users and mdisks, sorted by user (and perhaps mdisk, too) which reside between gaps. But _why_? What are you attempting to do? Mike Walter Aon Corporation The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. "Tom Huegel" Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 01/04/2011 03:26 PM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER I don't understand your question.. If there is a GAP then there is no USER. ??? On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:13 PM, George Henke/NYLIC wrote: Does anybody have anything like a PIPE command or a utility to do this sort of thing, sort the DIRECTORY DISKMAP on USER within GAPS? I am sure DIRMAINT would obviate the necessity for such a thing, but right now this is all I can do. The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by e-mail. _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com.
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This is great, George, ty. Just one problem. It does not show the GAPs after the last extent on a VOLSER. It would be nice to know the GAPS on the tailend of a VOLSER also. Must I put a dummy entry on the last cylinder to generate a GAP in DIRMAP and/or DISKMAP? Is there a workaround for this on VM Tools? gclo...@br.ibm.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System 01/05/2011 07:26 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER George: Not sure we understand the question, but... Without DIRMAINT, try "DIRMAP (GAPFILE DEVSORT" - Generate two files, one with only the Gaps and other with the allocated cylinders, both classified by VOLSER. With DIRMAINT, try "DIRM FREE" and "DIRM USED" to get files like the same proposal... Or, "DIRM DIRMAP (GAPFILE DEVSORT" "DIRM HELP DIRMAP" shows: Devsort requests that the report is to be sorted by device type followed by volume label. The default is to sort by volume label. Gapfile Generate a file listing gaps in addition to a report detailing the current DASD utilization. Note: If you use the GAPFILE option without using the EXCLUDE option and excluded full volume overlays are defined on your system no gap data will be returned. Use the EXCLUDE option to eliminate the excluded full volume overlays from consideration when building the gap data. The gapfile is listed in the following format: Field Use 1volid of disk 2device type of disk. 3start cylinder/block of gap 4end cylinder/block of gap 5number of cylinders/blocks in gap Note: All fields are blank delimited and not bound to a specific column range. __ Clovis From: Mike Walter To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 04/01/2011 19:33 Subject: Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System Or better yet... _why_? It sounds as if you want to display users and mdisks, sorted by user (and perhaps mdisk, too) which reside between gaps. But _why_? What are you attempting to do? Mike Walter Aon Corporation The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. "Tom Huegel" Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 01/04/2011 03:26 PM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER I don't understand your question.. If there is a GAP then there is no USER. ??? On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:13 PM, George Henke/NYLIC < george_he...@newyorklife.com> wrote: Does anybody have anything like a PIPE command or a utility to do this sort of thing, sort the DIRECTORY DISKMAP on USER within GAPS? I am sure DIRMAINT would obviate the necessity for such a thing, but right now this is all I can do. The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by e-mail.
Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER
George: Not sure we understand the question, but... Without DIRMAINT, try "DIRMAP (GAPFILE DEVSORT" - Generate two files, one with only the Gaps and other with the allocated cylinders, both classified by VOLSER. With DIRMAINT, try "DIRM FREE" and "DIRM USED" to get files like the same proposal... Or, "DIRM DIRMAP (GAPFILE DEVSORT" "DIRM HELP DIRMAP" shows: Devsort requests that the report is to be sorted by device type followed by volume label. The default is to sort by volume label. Gapfile Generate a file listing gaps in addition to a report detailing the current DASD utilization. Note: If you use the GAPFILE option without using the EXCLUDE option and excluded full volume overlays are defined on your system no gap data will be returned. Use the EXCLUDE option to eliminate the excluded full volume overlays from consideration when building the gap data. The gapfile is listed in the following format: Field Use 1volid of disk 2device type of disk. 3start cylinder/block of gap 4end cylinder/block of gap 5number of cylinders/blocks in gap Note: All fields are blank delimited and not bound to a specific column range. __ Clovis From: Mike Walter To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 04/01/2011 19:33 Subject: Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System Or better yet... _why_? It sounds as if you want to display users and mdisks, sorted by user (and perhaps mdisk, too) which reside between gaps. But _why_? What are you attempting to do? Mike Walter Aon Corporation The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. "Tom Huegel" Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 01/04/2011 03:26 PM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER I don't understand your question.. If there is a GAP then there is no USER. ??? On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:13 PM, George Henke/NYLIC < george_he...@newyorklife.com> wrote: Does anybody have anything like a PIPE command or a utility to do this sort of thing, sort the DIRECTORY DISKMAP on USER within GAPS? I am sure DIRMAINT would obviate the necessity for such a thing, but right now this is all I can do. The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by e-mail.
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Or better yet... _why_? It sounds as if you want to display users and mdisks, sorted by user (and perhaps mdisk, too) which reside between gaps. But _why_? What are you attempting to do? Mike Walter Aon Corporation The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. "Tom Huegel" Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 01/04/2011 03:26 PM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER I don't understand your question.. If there is a GAP then there is no USER. ??? On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:13 PM, George Henke/NYLIC < george_he...@newyorklife.com> wrote: Does anybody have anything like a PIPE command or a utility to do this sort of thing, sort the DIRECTORY DISKMAP on USER within GAPS? I am sure DIRMAINT would obviate the necessity for such a thing, but right now this is all I can do. The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by e-mail.
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I don't understand your question.. If there is a GAP then there is no USER. ??? On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:13 PM, George Henke/NYLIC < george_he...@newyorklife.com> wrote: > Does anybody have anything like a PIPE command or a utility to do this sort > of thing, sort the DIRECTORY DISKMAP on USER within GAPS? > > I am sure DIRMAINT would obviate the necessity for such a thing, but right > now this is all I can do.
