Re: Service level
A question on this though: If one gets the PSP buckets and put them on at the same time as the RSU, as one should, wouldn't it always show the ++? I do like the idea of something that lists all the fixes easily, preferably by CP so logging on to MAINT isn't necessary (ok, I guess I could link the necessary disks, etc to do it from my id). But CP Q PTF ALL? Or CP Q PTF VM64123? Wouldn't that be nice. SERVICE STAT shows everything except if the current active nuc has the fix, this could bridge that gap. Bob Bates robert.ba...@wellsfargo.com This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2011 5:28 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Sevice level What I would like: 1) a flag for the output of Q CPLEVEL that indicates that additional service beyond the displayed level has been applied. Something like 8801++. Applying the next RSU would reset the flag until the next PTF outside the RSU is applied. 2) a new option to SERVICE that does the VMFSIM magic to list all PTFS applied to a component. Example: SERVICE LIST CP Resulting in something like: RSU 8801 PTF c PTF yyygyygyy Etc I think that would help non-SES wizards to understand without breaking the older method.
Re: Service level
On 4/11/11 9:29 AM, Bob Bates robert.ba...@wellsfargo.com wrote: If one gets the PSP buckets and put them on at the same time as the RSU, as one should, wouldn't it always show the ++? Yes, but that's as it should. RSU is the basic level set of service level, and if you add the PSP bucket on top of it, then you are not running service level X, but service level X++. Thus it's providing the correct indication. I guess I'm thinking that the number of PTFs between RSUs is small enough now that you're more likely to see a RSU come out sooner than you would apply COR between RSUs. Not like the VM/SP days...8-) I know a lot of shops that never apply COR unless it's totally critical to keeping the machine up -- they'd rather wait for the RSUs because of the amount of testing required to get stuff into prod. I do like the idea of something that lists all the fixes easily, preferably by CP so logging on to MAINT isn't necessary (ok, I guess I could link the necessary disks, etc to do it from my id). But CP Q PTF ALL? Or CP Q PTF VM64123? Wouldn't that be nice. SERVICE STAT shows everything except if the current active nuc has the fix, this could bridge that gap. The reason I want it as part of SERVICE is that that way, it would work for *all* SES maintained components in the same way. With some of the non-IBM vendors starting to use SES maintenance, that would make everybody's life easier. A CP command would be nice too, but I think it's in addition to the extra function in SERVICE. Also, SERVICE is what the newbies are trained to use, so that's kinda where it has to go IMHO. Most of them don't even know that VMFSIM exists, let alone the way to construct the insane number of arguments to get it to report anything useful. -- db
Re: Service level
David wrote: Not like the VM/SP days...8-) Some of us exploiting new things are having VM/SP moments :) I just want a CP Query that tells me about the running system. It's a *bad thing* when one thinks they have applied a PTF after scheduling an IPL and finding it not on later. Bad things happen to good VM sys progs :( Marcy
Re: Service level after RSU
On Monday, 03/03/2008 at 11:52 EST, Jan Canavan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So should we all do this? We id this back in when the RSU 0703 first came out. We checked it three times. We just thought that was just the way it was. If more than one is having trouble, something is out of sync. Yes, call it in. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: {SPAM?} Re: Service level after RSU
I never used PUT2PROD, nor SERVICE,...
But, issue a VMFSETUP ZVM CP and then look for the CPLOAD MODULE. Compare
its date with what you see on MAINT CF1 (the disk you are supposed to IPL
from). PUT2PROD should have placed the CPLOAD MODULE there.
(a check for CMS is less easy)
2008/3/3, Shimon Lebowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Nope, the magic did not work:
put2prod all
VMFP2P2760I PUT2PROD PROCESSING STARTED
VMFP2P1217I THERE ARE NO PRODUCTS TO PUT INTO PRODUCTION.
VMFP2P2760I PUT2PROD PROCESSING COMPLETED SUCCESSFULLY
READY; T=0.71/0.75 12:54:25
Believe it or not I think if you run PUT2PROD ALL, somehow magically the
correct files will get updated and the service level will change. Maybe I
will open a PMR ...
David
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Shimon Lebowitz
Sent: Sun 3/2/2008 6:36 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: [IBMVM] {SPAM?} Service level after RSU
Hi,
On my 5.3 system, I downloaded RSU0703,
ran SERVICE ALL RPTF0167,
then PUT2PROD, and then
SHUTDOWN.
On re-ipl of the system I do not see the correct
levels.
q cplevel
Z/VM VERSION 5 RELEASE 3.0, SERVICE LEVEL 0702 (64-BIT)
GENERATED AT 09/18/07 17:06:03 UTC
IPL AT 03/02/08 13:44:20 UTC
q cmslevel
CMS LEVEL 23, SERVICE LEVEL 702
But when I ask VMSES:
SERVICE ALL STATUS RSU
VMFSRV2760I SERVICE PROCESSING STARTED
VMFSRV1225I VMSESSFS (5VMSES30%VMSESSFS) STATUS:
VMFSRV1225ISERVICE LEVEL 000-
VMFSRV1225IPRODUCTION LEVEL 000-
VMFSRV1225I CPSFS (5VMCPR30%CPSFS) STATUS:
VMFSRV1225ISERVICE LEVEL RSU-0703
VMFSRV1225IPRODUCTION LEVEL RSU-0703
.
VMFSRV1225I CMSSFS (5VMCMS30%CMSSFS) STATUS:
VMFSRV1225ISERVICE LEVEL RSU-0703
VMFSRV1225IPRODUCTION LEVEL RSU-0703
.
Why am I getting 702 if SES thinks I have 703?
Thanks,
Shimon
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Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: Service level after RSU
Hello Shimon, If you IPL from the 490 disk do you get a CMS level at 703? Ed Martin CP I 190 CL Z/VM V5.3.02008-02-14 16:58 CP I 490 CL Z/VM V5.3.02008-02-14 16:58 Q CMSLEVEL CMS LEVEL 23, SERVICE LEVEL 702 READY; T=0.01/0.01 16:22:20 I guess not. :-( I see that 190 and 490 show the same ipl timestamp. Hmmm.. that was two weeks ago, when I put in 0702. Behalf Of Kris Buelens I never used PUT2PROD, nor SERVICE,... But, issue a VMFSETUP ZVM CP and then look for the CPLOAD MODULE. Compare its date with what you see on MAINT CF1 (the disk you are supposed to IPL from). PUT2PROD should have placed the CPLOAD MODULE there. (a check for CMS is less easy) list cpload module * ( date FILENAME FILETYPE FM FORMAT LRECL RECS BLOCKS DATE TIME CPLOAD MODULE K1 V 65535151 2393 11/26/07 19:25:06 CPLOAD MODULE P1 V 65535151 2393 11/26/07 19:25:06 CPLOAD MODULE Q1 V 65535151 2393 9/18/07 17:06:03 CPLOAD MODULE R1 V 65535151 2393 9/18/07 17:06:03 READY; T=0.01/0.01 16:31:01 xd k p q r LABEL VDEV M STAT CYL TYPE BLKSZ FILES BLKS USED-(%) BLKS LEFT BLK TOTAL MNT493 493 K R/W 167 3390 4096 1074 21118-70 8942 30060 MNT193 193 P R/W 167 3390 4096 1074 21118-70 8942 30060 MNTCF1 CF1 Q R/O 120 3390 4096 16 7954-37 13646 21600 MNTCF2 CF2 R R/O 120 3390 4096 16 7954-37 13646 21600 READY; T=0.01/0.01 16:31:25 So, apparently 0703 did not update the parm disks either. I am considering restoring a backup and trying again, this is *not* a production system. Any other ideas? Shimon P.S. Why does the word (SPAM?) keep appearing in the subject? I remove it on each post. -- Shimon Lebowitzmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] VM System Programmer . Israel Police National HQ. Jerusalem, Israel phone: +972 2 542-9877 fax: 542-9308
Re: {SPAM?} Re: Service level after RSU
Hello Shimon,
If you IPL from the 490 disk do you get a CMS level at 703?
Ed Martin
330-588-4723
ext 40441
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Kris Buelens
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 7:13 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: {SPAM?} Re: Service level after RSU
I never used PUT2PROD, nor SERVICE,...
But, issue a VMFSETUP ZVM CP and then look for the CPLOAD MODULE.
Compare its date with what you see on MAINT CF1 (the disk you are
supposed to IPL from). PUT2PROD should have placed the CPLOAD MODULE
there.
(a check for CMS is less easy)
2008/3/3, Shimon Lebowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Nope, the magic did not work:
put2prod all
VMFP2P2760I PUT2PROD PROCESSING STARTED
VMFP2P1217I THERE ARE NO PRODUCTS TO PUT INTO PRODUCTION.
VMFP2P2760I PUT2PROD PROCESSING COMPLETED SUCCESSFULLY
READY; T=0.71/0.75 12:54:25
Re: Service level after RSU
Not installed yet, its a fresh system. Thanks, Shimon Hi Shimon ... V/Seg isn't getting in your way ... is it? JR JR (Steven) Imler CA Senior Software Engineer Tel: +1 703 708 3479 Fax: +1 703 708 3267 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Shimon Lebowitzmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] VM System Programmer . Israel Police National HQ. Jerusalem, Israel phone: +972 2 542-9877 fax: 542-9308
Re: Service level after RSU
The easiest thing to do is to open a PMR. You will be granted audience with an Absolute Master of the Arcane. He or she will use their Power to divine the cause of your confusion. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: Service level after RSU
I just put on RSU703 last week and at some point (don't remember--the memory is said to be the 2nd thing to go), I had a new CPLOAD MODULE and MAP on the MAINT 493 disk and the CPLOAD MODULE on the 2nd PARM disk. I used the black box SERVICE exec and then PUT2PROD. I think the above was the case after SERVICE and before PUT2PROD. See what's on the 2nd PARM disk. Jim Stephen Frazier wrote: You didn't move the new CPMODULE to the PARM disk you loaded from. The CPMODULE was generated on September 18, 2007. As you claim to have recently installed RSU0703 you either didn't generate a new CPMODULE or you didn't move it to your PARM disk or you IPLed from an old PARM disk. -- Jim Bohnsack Cornell University (607) 255-1760 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Service level after RSU
So should we all do this? We id this back in when the RSU 0703 first came out. We checked it three times. We just thought that was just the way it was. If more than one is having trouble, something is out of sync. -Original Message- From: Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mar 3, 2008 8:36 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Service level after RSU The easiest thing to do is to open a PMR. You will be granted audience with an Absolute Master of the Arcane. He or she will use their Power to divine the cause of your confusion. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott Jan Canavan [EMAIL PROTECTED] VSE/VM SYSTEMS PROGRAMMER
