Re: Sysprof Exec in z/vm 4.4

2006-12-14 Thread Mary Zervos
Thanks to everyone for their help on Sysprof.  I used Mike's suggestion 
below and it worked like a charm.  The new z/vm 4.4 system dust is 
starting to settle.


Anyone game for another question...

Yesterday on our new 4.4 system, I was deleting some old users on random 
packs using Dirmaint while logged onto Maint.  Our person who runs 
Vmbackup was logged on her Vmrmaint account running backups.  All the 
Vmbackup and Vmrmaint mdisks are on the old 230RES pack that we now have 
attached to the 4.4 system as CP System.  The Vmbackup person called me 
to say that all the mdisks for vmbackup and vmrmaint were empty (she 
never logged off) and upon checking myself, somehow 230RES was relabeled 
to SCRTCH.  Wow, was that a shocker for me!  I immediately restored a 
backup that I had but am now searching for the reason this happened.  
Dirmaint?


Thanks again for any help.
Mary Zervos
Binghamton University




Mike Walter wrote:


As noted by another listserv member, it's probably the need to resave 
INSTSEG.  

It can get really tough remembering all the things one needs to do to 
build, install, test, and move local mods into production.
I started using the AUX files as a repository of such local 
information because that where I trip over it when needing to modify 
something.


SYSPROF mods are only one of many, including vendor products.   We use 
AUX files named AUXRS (for ouR Stuff) so they are easy to find, not 
being the name of any IBM or ISV AUX files.  You may not want to 
bother with that technique.

Here's an example... modify it to meet your needs if you wish:

 SYSPROF  AUXRSD1  F 80  Trunc=80 Size=15 Line=0 Col=1 Alt=0   
   
 
 
|...+1+2+3+4+5+6+7+ 

* * * Top of File * * *   
 
RS0040DS  501 RS040DS Update SYSPROF with local enhancements. 
 
* To create, be sure to copy the proper SYSPROF $EXEC to the A-disk   
 
* (EXECUPDT overwrites the SYSPROF EXEC on the same disk as the 
$EXEC)!
* To update SYSPROF EXEC,  you should: 
   
* COPY SYSPROF $EXEC fm = = A (OLDDATE REPLACE UNPACK  -- See UNPACK! 
   
* XEDITSYSPROF $EXEC * (CTL DMSVM SID RS0040DS, then   
   
* EXECUPDT SYSPROF  EXEC * (CTL DMSVM HISTory SID 
 
* Test the SYSPROF EXEC (esp. for syntax errors!) 
 
* COPY SYSPROF EXEC A = EXC040DS E (OLDDate REPLace   
 
*  so VMFBLD won't complain later on. 
 
* COPY SYSPROF EXEC A = EXEC E (OLDDate REPLace ERASE 
 
*  so we don't get mixed up.   
   
* then re-save the INSTSEG NSS, e.g.   
   
* CP IPL 190 CLEAR PARM NOSPROF INSTSEG NO MTSEG NO   
 
* VMFBLD PPF SEGBLD ESASEGS SEGBLIST INSTSEG ( ALL 
   
* * * End of File * * *   
 

Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates  
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represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.



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Well, we finally migrated to z/vm 4.4 two days ago from vm/esa 2.3.  
Most of our little fires are out.  But here's a new problem for

us..we tailor our Sysprof Exec to run an account exec before a
users's profile exec.  For some reason, Sysprof exec is not being run
when we Ipl Cms or Ipl 190.  Did something change with Sysprof Exec
since vm/esa 2.3?  Is it still automatically run as part of the CMS
initialization procedure when a user logs on  or reIpls CMS?

Thanks for any help.  We've even traced the original z/vm 4.4 Sysprof
Exec and it's not being called?

Mary Zervos
VM Systems Programmer
Binghamton University



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Re: Sysprof Exec in z/vm 4.4

2006-12-14 Thread George Haddad

Any chance that a minidisk covering cyl 0 was defined, them deleted?

Mary Zervos wrote:
Thanks to everyone for their help on Sysprof.  I used Mike's 
suggestion below and it worked like a charm.  The new z/vm 4.4 system 
dust is starting to settle.


Anyone game for another question...

Yesterday on our new 4.4 system, I was deleting some old users on 
random packs using Dirmaint while logged onto Maint.  Our person who 
runs Vmbackup was logged on her Vmrmaint account running backups.  All 
the Vmbackup and Vmrmaint mdisks are on the old 230RES pack that we 
now have attached to the 4.4 system as CP System.  The Vmbackup person 
called me to say that all the mdisks for vmbackup and vmrmaint were 
empty (she never logged off) and upon checking myself, somehow 230RES 
was relabeled to SCRTCH.  Wow, was that a shocker for me!  I 
immediately restored a backup that I had but am now searching for the 
reason this happened.  Dirmaint?


Thanks again for any help.
Mary Zervos
Binghamton University






Re: Sysprof Exec in z/vm 4.4

2006-12-14 Thread Thomas Kern
Did you bay any chance use DIRMAINT to delete a minidisk that covered
cylinder zero of volume 230RES? When DIRMAINT deletes a minidisk, it usua
lly
has its worker DATAMOVE format the minidisk before deallocating it to
prevent the next user from getting data from it. 

/Tom Kern

On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 09:57:06 -0500, Mary Zervos wrote:
Anyone game for another question...

Yesterday on our new 4.4 system, I was deleting some old users on random

packs using Dirmaint while logged onto Maint.  Our person who runs
Vmbackup was logged on her Vmrmaint account running backups.  All the
Vmbackup and Vmrmaint mdisks are on the old 230RES pack that we now have

attached to the 4.4 system as CP System.  The Vmbackup person called me
to say that all the mdisks for vmbackup and vmrmaint were empty (she
never logged off) and upon checking myself, somehow 230RES was relabeled

to SCRTCH.  Wow, was that a shocker for me!  I immediately restored a
backup that I had but am now searching for the reason this happened.
Dirmaint?


Re: Sysprof Exec in z/vm 4.4

2006-12-14 Thread Ronald van der Laan

There is a CYL0_BLK0_CLEANUP setting, and if you set it to YES, it will
scratch mdisks that start at cyl 0 too.

Or if you have, like we once suffered from, an admin guy who found it more
secure to use the option CLEAN on the PURGE or DMDISK commands, overriding
the default dirmaint settings, well we lost the same system twice, before we
realized that someone else had an userid with fullpack minidisk overlays
removed as he was no longer responsible and we were sure we had Dirmaint
configured with CYL0_BLK0_CLEANUP=NO ..

Ronald van der Laan


Re: Sysprof Exec in z/vm 4.4

2006-12-13 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
You have to reload the INSTSEG DCSS

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Well, we finally migrated to z/vm 4.4 two days ago from vm/esa 2.3.  
Most of our little fires are out.  But here's a new problem for 
us..we tailor our Sysprof Exec to run an account exec before a 
users's profile exec.  For some reason, Sysprof exec is not being run 
when we Ipl Cms or Ipl 190.  Did something change with Sysprof Exec 
since vm/esa 2.3?  Is it still automatically run as part of the CMS 
initialization procedure when a user logs on  or reIpls CMS?

Thanks for any help.  We've even traced the original z/vm 4.4 Sysprof 
Exec and it's not being called?

Mary Zervos
VM Systems Programmer
Binghamton University


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Re: Sysprof Exec in z/vm 4.4

2006-12-13 Thread Mike Walter
As noted by another listserv member, it's probably the need to resave 
INSTSEG. 

It can get really tough remembering all the things one needs to do to 
build, install, test, and move local mods into production.
I started using the AUX files as a repository of such local information 
because that where I trip over it when needing to modify something.

SYSPROF mods are only one of many, including vendor products.   We use AUX 
files named AUXRS (for ouR Stuff) so they are easy to find, not being 
the name of any IBM or ISV AUX files.  You may not want to bother with 
that technique. 
Here's an example... modify it to meet your needs if you wish:

 SYSPROF  AUXRSD1  F 80  Trunc=80 Size=15 Line=0 Col=1 Alt=0 
 
|...+1+2+3+4+5+6+7+
* * * Top of File * * * 
RS0040DS  501 RS040DS Update SYSPROF with local enhancements. 
* To create, be sure to copy the proper SYSPROF $EXEC to the A-disk 
* (EXECUPDT overwrites the SYSPROF EXEC on the same disk as the $EXEC)! 
* To update SYSPROF EXEC,  you should: 
* COPY SYSPROF $EXEC fm = = A (OLDDATE REPLACE UNPACK  -- See UNPACK! 
* XEDITSYSPROF $EXEC * (CTL DMSVM SID RS0040DS, then 
* EXECUPDT SYSPROF  EXEC * (CTL DMSVM HISTory SID 
* Test the SYSPROF EXEC (esp. for syntax errors!) 
* COPY SYSPROF EXEC A = EXC040DS E (OLDDate REPLace 
*  so VMFBLD won't complain later on. 
* COPY SYSPROF EXEC A = EXEC E (OLDDate REPLace ERASE 
*  so we don't get mixed up. 
* then re-save the INSTSEG NSS, e.g. 
* CP IPL 190 CLEAR PARM NOSPROF INSTSEG NO MTSEG NO 
* VMFBLD PPF SEGBLD ESASEGS SEGBLIST INSTSEG ( ALL 
* * * End of File * * *

Mike Walter 
Hewitt Associates 
Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily 
represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.



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Well, we finally migrated to z/vm 4.4 two days ago from vm/esa 2.3. 
Most of our little fires are out.  But here's a new problem for 
us..we tailor our Sysprof Exec to run an account exec before a 
users's profile exec.  For some reason, Sysprof exec is not being run 
when we Ipl Cms or Ipl 190.  Did something change with Sysprof Exec 
since vm/esa 2.3?  Is it still automatically run as part of the CMS 
initialization procedure when a user logs on  or reIpls CMS?

Thanks for any help.  We've even traced the original z/vm 4.4 Sysprof 
Exec and it's not being called?

Mary Zervos
VM Systems Programmer
Binghamton University 



 
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Re: Sysprof Exec in z/vm 4.4

2006-12-13 Thread Kris Buelens
The fact that CMS prefers to use the SYSPROF from the INSTSEG opens 
opportunities to test your new SYSPROF.  Just IPL CMS with:
 IPL CMS PARM INSTSEG NO

Kris,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support




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Well, we finally migrated to z/vm 4.4 two days ago from vm/esa 2.3.
Most of our little fires are out.  But here's a new problem for
us..we tailor our Sysprof Exec to run an account exec before a
users's profile exec.  For some reason, Sysprof exec is not being run
when we Ipl Cms or Ipl 190.  Did something change with Sysprof Exec
since vm/esa 2.3?  Is it still automatically run as part of the CMS
initialization procedure when a user logs on  or reIpls CMS?

Thanks for any help.  We've even traced the original z/vm 4.4 Sysprof
Exec and it's not being called?

Mary Zervos
VM Systems Programmer
Binghamton University