ZOS Guest Console Not Working
The ZOS console does not have the command line at the bottom. There is no way to input data. I can dial into TSO np, even look at the console in EJES (we are JES3), and everything else looks fine. But just logging onto to ZOS guest through SuperSession and entering *b* shows the ZOS console output only without any command line at the bottom. We do have a VTAM vsm, but ZOS consoles are BTAM, not VTAM terminals.
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I'm not a z/VM person. I'm a z/OS sysprog. I don't know how SuperSession works. A z/OS console is not BTAM, per se, a z/OS console is usually associated with a local non-SNA 3270 device. Note that the z/VM DIAL command (which is what I am used to) presents a 3270, however connected to z/VM, as a local non-SNA 3270. If this is the 3270 where you did a LOGON to start up the z/OS guest, then the console is likely in CONMODE 3215. That is the very old style printer keyboard console. z/OS does not support 3215 consoles any more at all. In this case, before IPL'ing z/OS, enter the command #CP CONMODE 3270 to set the console mode to 3270. If your z/OS guest first IPLs CMS (as many do), this will blow away CMS. And you'll need to enter the IPL command where is the virtual address of the z/OS IPL volume by hand. Another possibility is that the CONSOLnn member of PARMLIB is messed up. Make sure that the CONSOLE statements either don't specify the USE parameter or it is set to USE(FC). USE(MS) and USE(SD) won't work right for a normal console. Hope this was of at least some help. I only use z/VM when we do a D.R. test. John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of George Henke/NYLIC Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:28 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: ZOS Guest Console Not Working The ZOS console does not have the command line at the bottom. There is no way to input data. I can dial into TSO np, even look at the console in EJES (we are JES3), and everything else looks fine. But just logging onto to ZOS guest through SuperSession and entering *b* shows the ZOS console output only without any command line at the bottom. We do have a VTAM vsm, but ZOS consoles are BTAM, not VTAM terminals.
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tyvm, all. Looks like console is defined as 3215 Guess this has not been working for some time and just noticed now. I suppose I can just change this to 3270 and all will be well. PROFILE MVSID * OPTION TODENABLE OPTION TODEN SHARE RELATIVE 100 LIMITSOFT MACHINE ESA 4 IPL CMS CONSOLE 01E 3215 * McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 01/06/2011 03:42 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: ZOS Guest Console Not Working I'm not a z/VM person. I'm a z/OS sysprog. I don't know how SuperSession works. A z/OS console is not BTAM, per se, a z/OS console is usually associated with a local non-SNA 3270 device. Note that the z/VM DIAL command (which is what I am used to) presents a 3270, however connected to z/VM, as a local non-SNA 3270. If this is the 3270 where you did a LOGON to start up the z/OS guest, then the console is likely in CONMODE 3215. That is the very old style printer keyboard console. z/OS does not support 3215 consoles any more at all. In this case, before IPL'ing z/OS, enter the command #CP CONMODE 3270 to set the console mode to 3270. If your z/OS guest first IPLs CMS (as many do), this will blow away CMS. And you'll need to enter the IPL command where is the virtual address of the z/OS IPL volume by hand. Another possibility is that the CONSOLnn member of PARMLIB is messed up. Make sure that the CONSOLE statements either don't specify the USE parameter or it is set to USE(FC). USE(MS) and USE(SD) won't work right for a normal console. Hope this was of at least some help. I only use z/VM when we do a D.R. test. John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets® 9151 Boulevard 26 • N. Richland Hills • TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone • john.mck...@healthmarkets.com • www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets® is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. –The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company®, Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of George Henke/NYLIC Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:28 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: ZOS Guest Console Not Working The ZOS console does not have the command line at the bottom. There is no way to input data. I can dial into TSO np, even look at the console in EJES (we are JES3), and everything else looks fine. But just logging onto to ZOS guest through SuperSession and entering *b* shows the ZOS console output only without any command line at the bottom. We do have a VTAM vsm, but ZOS consoles are BTAM, not VTAM terminals.
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On Thursday, 01/06/2011 at 03:53 EST, George Henke/NYLIC george_he...@newyorklife.com wrote: tyvm, all. Looks like console is defined as 3215 Guess this has not been working for some time and just noticed now. I suppose I can just change this to 3270 and all will be well. PROFILE MVSID * OPTION TODENABLE OPTION TODEN SHARE RELATIVE 100 LIMITSOFT MACHINE ESA 4 IPL CMS CONSOLE 01E 3215 You can, but it won't help, as CMS will set it back to a 3215 since CMS doesn't know how to speak to a 3270. When the PROFILE EXEC is ready to IPL MVS, it needs to issue CP TERMINAL CONMODE 3270 immediately prior to IPL. Add commentary to the exec to tell future sysprogs not to insert anything between the two commands. Since you don't have OPTION D8ONECMD, you can actually do the TERMINAL CONMODE 3270 and IPL in the same CP command: CP TERMINAL CONMODE 3270 || x2c(15) || IPL whatever This tends to help avoid accidents. Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
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Yeah, ty Alan and Mike, really sorry for missing the obvious. Too much ZOS without a helmet. Please ignore my last email. The 3215 console is, of course, for CMS. Our console is defined correctly as 3270: 'cp sleep 5 sec' CP DET 01ECP DEF CON 440 3270CP SET MACH ESACP I ADDRESS LOADPARM ||SYSNAME||M 'cp sleep 1 MIN' We are, however, using CF: The only SPECIALs in the z/OS guest are: SPECIAL 420 MSGP CFSRV04 SPECIAL 424 MSGP CFSRV01 SPECIAL 428 MSGP CFSRV05 It is not SuperSession because I can access both ways directly from RUMBA. Mike Walter mike.wal...@hewitt.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 01/06/2011 04:01 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: ZOS Guest Console Not Working No, you want to leave the CONSOLE statement alone. That's for VMS to use as a 3215. If you want z/OS to use the same device address as its console, before the CP IPL command, enter: CP TERM CONSOLE 3270 then enter the IPL command. Or, write an EXEC with the commands concatenated with a LineEnd (hex '15') character in between, ala: parse value diag(08,'CP QUERY VIRTUAL CONSOLE') with , . 'TERM ' . contype . If contype='VSM' then brkkey='' /* BRKKEY not supported on SNA terminals */ else brkkey='#CP TERMINAL BRKKEY PF13' iplcmds=, '#CP M * IPLing z/OS'|| , '#CP M OP IPLing z/OS' || , '#CP M MAINT IPLing z/OS'|| , '#CP Q T'|| , '#CP TERM CON 3270' || , brkkey || , '#CP IPL' loadaddr loadparms 'CP SET PF24 DELAY' iplcmds 'CP QUERY PF24' Exit If you are using a virtual coupling facility, I can send a much more fool-proof IPLZOS EXEC which first checks for z/OS's CFRM volumes being online, and that the virtual Coupling Faclity servers are active before continuing. Mike Walter Aon Corporation The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. George Henke/NYLIC george_he...@newyorklife.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 01/06/2011 02:51 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: ZOS Guest Console Not Working tyvm, all. Looks like console is defined as 3215 Guess this has not been working for some time and just noticed now. I suppose I can just change this to 3270 and all will be well. PROFILE MVSID * OPTION TODENABLE OPTION TODEN SHARE RELATIVE 100 LIMITSOFT MACHINE ESA 4 IPL CMS CONSOLE 01E 3215 * McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 01/06/2011 03:42 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: ZOS Guest Console Not Working I'm not a z/VM person. I'm a z/OS sysprog. I don't know how SuperSession works. A z/OS console is not BTAM, per se, a z/OS console is usually associated with a local non-SNA 3270 device. Note that the z/VM DIAL command (which is what I am used to) presents a 3270, however connected to z/VM, as a local non-SNA 3270. If this is the 3270 where you did a LOGON to start up the z/OS guest, then the console is likely in CONMODE 3215. That is the very old style printer keyboard console. z/OS does not support 3215 consoles any more at all. In this case, before IPL'ing z/OS, enter the command #CP CONMODE 3270 to set the console mode to 3270. If your z/OS guest first IPLs CMS (as many do), this will blow away CMS. And you'll need to enter the IPL command where is the virtual address of the z/OS IPL volume by hand. Another possibility is that the CONSOLnn member of PARMLIB is messed up. Make sure that the CONSOLE statements either don't specify the USE parameter or it is set to USE(FC). USE(MS) and USE(SD) won't work right for a normal console. Hope this was of at least some help. I only use z/VM when we do a D.R. test. John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets® 9151 Boulevard 26 ? N. Richland Hills ? TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone ? john.mck...@healthmarkets.com ? www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets® is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. ?The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company®, Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of George Henke/NYLIC Sent
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Is there some way I can display the attributes of the ZOS guest console from MAINT? I am still connected to the ZOS guest console. Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 01/06/2011 04:07 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: ZOS Guest Console Not Working On Thursday, 01/06/2011 at 03:53 EST, George Henke/NYLIC george_he...@newyorklife.com wrote: tyvm, all. Looks like console is defined as 3215 Guess this has not been working for some time and just noticed now. I suppose I can just change this to 3270 and all will be well. PROFILE MVSID * OPTION TODENABLE OPTION TODEN SHARE RELATIVE 100 LIMITSOFT MACHINE ESA 4 IPL CMS CONSOLE 01E 3215 You can, but it won't help, as CMS will set it back to a 3215 since CMS doesn't know how to speak to a 3270. When the PROFILE EXEC is ready to IPL MVS, it needs to issue CP TERMINAL CONMODE 3270 immediately prior to IPL. Add commentary to the exec to tell future sysprogs not to insert anything between the two commands. Since you don't have OPTION D8ONECMD, you can actually do the TERMINAL CONMODE 3270 and IPL in the same CP command: CP TERMINAL CONMODE 3270 || x2c(15) || IPL whatever This tends to help avoid accidents. Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
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On Thursday, 01/06/2011 at 04:13 EST, George Henke/NYLIC george_he...@newyorklife.com wrote: 'cp sleep 5 sec' Gag. Sleep? Is there something asynchronous happening that you need to wait for? CP DET 01ECP DEF CON 440 3270CP SET MACH ESACP I ADDRESS LOADPARM ||SYSNAME||M You could help yourself a bit by 1. Changing the CONSOLE statement in the directory to use 440 instead of 01E since CMS doesn't care what address you use. Then you can get rid of DETACH and DEFINE. 2. Getting rid of SET MACHINE ESA as you already have MACHINE ESA in the directory. 'cp sleep 1 MIN' This last SLEEP will never be issued because the preceding IPL will blow away CMS and the exec. An appropriate comment in your PROFILE would be good. :-) We are, however, using CF: The only SPECIALs in the z/OS guest are: SPECIAL 420 MSGP CFSRV04 SPECIAL 424 MSGP CFSRV01 SPECIAL 428 MSGP CFSRV05 If you want multiple z/OS consoles, you could add SPECIAL nnn 3270 entries. Just make sure that MVS is configured to require authentication on its consoles since anyone can DIAL MVSGUEST. Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
Re: ZOS Guest Console Not Working
ty all: I just forced the guest ZOS and XAUTOLOGed it and it came up fine. I disconnected via PA1 and reconnected np. Earlier today someone disconnected by hitting ATTN twice and got the weird console display when they reconnected. Could that have caused the problem? They claim that is how they always DISC.. Everything appears to be defined correctly. Here are some more console definitions from the ZOS guest side: CONSOLE DEVNUM(440),UNIT(3270-X),AUTH(MASTER),USE(FC), ALTGRP(ALTMSTR),ROUTCODE(1,2,9),MSCOPE(SYSYSCLONE.), SEG(19),DEL(R),AREA(NONE),NAME(MSTRSYSCLONE.), RNUM(19),MFORM(J,T),PFKTAB(PFK00),MONITOR(JOBNAMES-T) CNZ4100I16.42.18 CONSOLE DISPLAY 101 CONSOLES MATCHING COMMAND: D C MSG:CURR=0LIM=5000 RPLY:CURR=1LIM=99SYS=SY79 PFK=00 HARDCOPY LOG=(SYSLOG) CMDLEVEL=CMDS ROUT=(1-10,12-128) MSTR79TYPE=MCS STATUS=ACT-SY79 DEFINED=(*ALL) MATCHED=(*ALL) ATTRIBUTES ON SY79 AUTH=(MASTER)CMDSYS=*NBUF=0 DEV=0440 LOGON=OPTIONAL USERID=N/A MFORM=(T,J) AREA=(Z)PFKTAB=PFK00 USE=FC DEL=RRTME=*RNUM=19 SEG=19CON=N LEVEL=(ALL) MONITOR=(JOBNAMES) INTIDS=Y UNKNIDS=Y ROUT=(1-2,9) Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 01/06/2011 04:27 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: ZOS Guest Console Not Working On Thursday, 01/06/2011 at 04:13 EST, George Henke/NYLIC george_he...@newyorklife.com wrote: 'cp sleep 5 sec' Gag. Sleep? Is there something asynchronous happening that you need to wait for? CP DET 01ECP DEF CON 440 3270CP SET MACH ESACP I ADDRESS LOADPARM ||SYSNAME||M You could help yourself a bit by 1. Changing the CONSOLE statement in the directory to use 440 instead of 01E since CMS doesn't care what address you use. Then you can get rid of DETACH and DEFINE. 2. Getting rid of SET MACHINE ESA as you already have MACHINE ESA in the directory. 'cp sleep 1 MIN' This last SLEEP will never be issued because the preceding IPL will blow away CMS and the exec. An appropriate comment in your PROFILE would be good. :-) We are, however, using CF: The only SPECIALs in the z/OS guest are: SPECIAL 420 MSGP CFSRV04 SPECIAL 424 MSGP CFSRV01 SPECIAL 428 MSGP CFSRV05 If you want multiple z/OS consoles, you could add SPECIAL nnn 3270 entries. Just make sure that MVS is configured to require authentication on its consoles since anyone can DIAL MVSGUEST. Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
