Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-14 Thread James M
Finally I can close this problem.
PC is back in data center and connected to the ICC.
Still don't know what was the root cause. I guess alls well that ends well.
Since a rework of the pc fixed the problem I guess it's safe to say
that it was the culprit although there was absolutely no evidence to
support it.
One of the odd things I did notice on the mainframe side was the fact
that dropping a session in the icc debug panel on the hmc didn't
result in what I would expect. Even though the session shows available
after the drop the mac  ip address remain from the previous session.
No biggie but good to know.
Another thing that came up during this which makes me wonder is
microcode. Is it true that varying off/on the chpid could cause any
newer microcode waiting to be loaded? Would a power on reset also have
the same effect? The way it was explained to me (by IBM) is that
microcode is automatically downloaded to the mainframe as it becomes
available. It is then  loaded as I previously noted.
Thanks again for the help.
-Jim

On 9/13/07, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thursday, 09/13/2007 at 12:41 EDT, James M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm now wondering if there are certain emulators that are better than
  others. Does IBM support/recommend certain emulators?
  Here I am blaming the emulator - maybe I should be considering a linux
  based icc console.

 IBM sells its own emulator, IBM Personal Communications (PCOMM).  However,
 it would be hard to say that IBM recommends any particular emulator in
 this respect, however, since telnet is an open standard.  If ICC isn't
 operating according to the RFCs, then we'll fix it.

  Getting back to the pcap file - it looks like there was about 10
  seconds elapsed from act to fin. If you really want I can send the
  pcap file. If so let me know where to send it.

 At this point the question is moot.  The 10-second delay confirms, I
 think, that the ICC was waiting for the WILL TN3270E from your PC.  After
 10 seconds with no response from your PC, he [appropriately] closed the
 connection.

 Alan Altmark
 z/VM Development
 IBM Endicott



Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-14 Thread Edward M. Martin
Hello Jim,

FWIK, Microcode is loaded/updated on a regular basis and is
available for application.  Your CE can do a concurrent application of
most of the updates, but the OSA cards do have to be cycled (varied off
and varied back on) to get ALL the microcode updates.

We are doing a concurrent update during some of the other
systems downtime (just in case) and I will be doing each OSA card as I
work the time in.

Ed Martin 
Aultman Health Foundation
330-588-4723
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
ext. 40441

 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
 Behalf Of James M
 Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 8:45 AM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems
 
 Finally I can close this problem.
 PC is back in data center and connected to the ICC.
 Still don't know what was the root cause. I guess alls well that ends
 well.
 Since a rework of the pc fixed the problem I guess it's safe to say
 that it was the culprit although there was absolutely no evidence to
 support it.
 One of the odd things I did notice on the mainframe side was the fact
 that dropping a session in the icc debug panel on the hmc didn't
 result in what I would expect. Even though the session shows available
 after the drop the mac  ip address remain from the previous session.
 No biggie but good to know.
 Another thing that came up during this which makes me wonder is
 microcode. Is it true that varying off/on the chpid could cause any
 newer microcode waiting to be loaded? Would a power on reset also have
 the same effect? The way it was explained to me (by IBM) is that
 microcode is automatically downloaded to the mainframe as it becomes
 available. It is then  loaded as I previously noted.
 Thanks again for the help.
 -Jim
 
 On 9/13/07, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Thursday, 09/13/2007 at 12:41 EDT, James M [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   I'm now wondering if there are certain emulators that are better
than
   others. Does IBM support/recommend certain emulators?
   Here I am blaming the emulator - maybe I should be considering a
linux
   based icc console.
 
  IBM sells its own emulator, IBM Personal Communications (PCOMM).
 However,
  it would be hard to say that IBM recommends any particular
emulator in
  this respect, however, since telnet is an open standard.  If ICC
isn't
  operating according to the RFCs, then we'll fix it.
 
   Getting back to the pcap file - it looks like there was about 10
   seconds elapsed from act to fin. If you really want I can send the
   pcap file. If so let me know where to send it.
 
  At this point the question is moot.  The 10-second delay confirms, I
  think, that the ICC was waiting for the WILL TN3270E from your PC.
 After
  10 seconds with no response from your PC, he [appropriately] closed
the
  connection.
 
  Alan Altmark
  z/VM Development
  IBM Endicott
 


Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-13 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 09/12/2007 at 01:33 EDT, James M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 sorry...I hit submit by accident.
 The trace does not point out any obvious clues.
 I see the initial three way handshake
 then I see the icc port send a do tn3270e command
 the pc sends an ack
 the icc sends back fin
 
 I'm not enough of an ip guru to diagnose exactly why that happened or
 for that matter if that info is in the trace.

Was there a time delay between the ack and fin?   Your PC should have sent 
WILL TN3270E.  If you want, send me your pcap file.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-13 Thread James M
I may have the issue resolved.
I reinstalled the os (win2k)  emulator (hummingbird).
I can now connect to the icc port. But I didn't get all the way in
because the LU is in use.
When I go back to the mainframe location tomorrow I will know for sure.

It's very troubling not knowing what broke especially considering it's
our mainframe console.
I'm now wondering if there are certain emulators that are better than
others. Does IBM support/recommend certain emulators?
Here I am blaming the emulator - maybe I should be considering a linux
based icc console.

Getting back to the pcap file - it looks like there was about 10
seconds elapsed from act to fin. If you really want I can send the
pcap file. If so let me know where to send it.
Thanks for the help.
-Jim
On 9/13/07, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wednesday, 09/12/2007 at 01:33 EDT, James M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  sorry...I hit submit by accident.
  The trace does not point out any obvious clues.
  I see the initial three way handshake
  then I see the icc port send a do tn3270e command
  the pc sends an ack
  the icc sends back fin
 
  I'm not enough of an ip guru to diagnose exactly why that happened or
  for that matter if that info is in the trace.

 Was there a time delay between the ack and fin?   Your PC should have sent
 WILL TN3270E.  If you want, send me your pcap file.

 Alan Altmark
 z/VM Development
 IBM Endicott



Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-13 Thread Dave Jones
Jim, I have always had good luck using IBM's Personal Communications 
TN3270 (PCOMM) emulator. The current version is, I believe, 5.8, at 
least for Windows XP


James M wrote:

I may have the issue resolved.
I reinstalled the os (win2k)  emulator (hummingbird).
I can now connect to the icc port. But I didn't get all the way in
because the LU is in use.
When I go back to the mainframe location tomorrow I will know for sure.

It's very troubling not knowing what broke especially considering it's
our mainframe console.
I'm now wondering if there are certain emulators that are better than
others. Does IBM support/recommend certain emulators?
Here I am blaming the emulator - maybe I should be considering a linux
based icc console.

Getting back to the pcap file - it looks like there was about 10
seconds elapsed from act to fin. If you really want I can send the
pcap file. If so let me know where to send it.
Thanks for the help.
-Jim
On 9/13/07, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wednesday, 09/12/2007 at 01:33 EDT, James M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

sorry...I hit submit by accident.
The trace does not point out any obvious clues.
I see the initial three way handshake
then I see the icc port send a do tn3270e command
the pc sends an ack
the icc sends back fin

I'm not enough of an ip guru to diagnose exactly why that happened or
for that matter if that info is in the trace.

Was there a time delay between the ack and fin?   Your PC should have sent
WILL TN3270E.  If you want, send me your pcap file.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott



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V/Soft


Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-13 Thread Feller, Paul
 We use both IBM PCOMM and Attachmate.  Started with IBM PCOMM when we
had 2074s and kept using it when we switched to ICC connections.  We
have both zVM and zOS consoles setup with IBM PCOMM and ICC. 


Paul Feller 


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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dave Jones
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:36 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

Jim, I have always had good luck using IBM's Personal Communications
TN3270 (PCOMM) emulator. The current version is, I believe, 5.8, at
least for Windows XP

James M wrote:
 I may have the issue resolved.
 I reinstalled the os (win2k)  emulator (hummingbird).
 I can now connect to the icc port. But I didn't get all the way in 
 because the LU is in use.
 When I go back to the mainframe location tomorrow I will know for
sure.
 
 It's very troubling not knowing what broke especially considering it's

 our mainframe console.
 I'm now wondering if there are certain emulators that are better than 
 others. Does IBM support/recommend certain emulators?
 Here I am blaming the emulator - maybe I should be considering a linux

 based icc console.
 
 Getting back to the pcap file - it looks like there was about 10 
 seconds elapsed from act to fin. If you really want I can send the 
 pcap file. If so let me know where to send it.
 Thanks for the help.
 -Jim
 On 9/13/07, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wednesday, 09/12/2007 at 01:33 EDT, James M [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 sorry...I hit submit by accident.
 The trace does not point out any obvious clues.
 I see the initial three way handshake then I see the icc port send a

 do tn3270e command the pc sends an ack the icc sends back fin

 I'm not enough of an ip guru to diagnose exactly why that happened 
 or for that matter if that info is in the trace.
 Was there a time delay between the ack and fin?   Your PC should have
sent
 WILL TN3270E.  If you want, send me your pcap file.

 Alan Altmark
 z/VM Development
 IBM Endicott


--
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V/Soft


Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-13 Thread Stephen Frazier

I have had good results with X3270 on Debian Etch. We use it on all of our 
consoles.

James M wrote:


It's very troubling not knowing what broke especially considering it's
our mainframe console.
I'm now wondering if there are certain emulators that are better than
others. Does IBM support/recommend certain emulators?
Here I am blaming the emulator - maybe I should be considering a linux
based icc console.

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Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-13 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 09/13/2007 at 12:41 EDT, James M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm now wondering if there are certain emulators that are better than
 others. Does IBM support/recommend certain emulators?
 Here I am blaming the emulator - maybe I should be considering a linux
 based icc console.

IBM sells its own emulator, IBM Personal Communications (PCOMM).  However, 
it would be hard to say that IBM recommends any particular emulator in 
this respect, however, since telnet is an open standard.  If ICC isn't 
operating according to the RFCs, then we'll fix it. 

 Getting back to the pcap file - it looks like there was about 10
 seconds elapsed from act to fin. If you really want I can send the
 pcap file. If so let me know where to send it.

At this point the question is moot.  The 10-second delay confirms, I 
think, that the ICC was waiting for the WILL TN3270E from your PC.  After 
10 seconds with no response from your PC, he [appropriately] closed the 
connection.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-12 Thread James M
I tried rebooting. Mystery remains unsolved.
I'm bringing the pc back to the home office. I will re-install windows
 tn3270 emulator. I will be back at mainframe site on friday to test
it. Although there is no evidence indicating something is wrong with
the pc it is the main suspect at this point

On 9/11/07, Edward M. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello Everyone,

 Is it possible that the PC that can not connect can be rebooted?
 (It what you do with a PC).

 In the TN3270 you may have LU or PORT name that is being kept in
 memory for that connection, so you can not start another one until that
 LU/PORT in memory has been cleared.

 And since the Operator is not sure what happened, you may have
 disconnected and not removed the actual connection on the PC.

 Ed Martin
 Aultman Health Foundation
 330-588-4723
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ext. 40441



Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-12 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 09/12/2007 at 12:13 EDT, James M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I tried rebooting. Mystery remains unsolved.
 I'm bringing the pc back to the home office. I will re-install windows
  tn3270 emulator. I will be back at mainframe site on friday to test
 it. Although there is no evidence indicating something is wrong with
 the pc it is the main suspect at this point

Did you get any sniffer traces?  If your emulator is PCOMM, it has 
built-in tracing capabilities.  (Other brands may, too.)

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-12 Thread James M
I have a wireshark pcap file.

On 9/12/07, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wednesday, 09/12/2007 at 12:13 EDT, James M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I tried rebooting. Mystery remains unsolved.
  I'm bringing the pc back to the home office. I will re-install windows
   tn3270 emulator. I will be back at mainframe site on friday to test
  it. Although there is no evidence indicating something is wrong with
  the pc it is the main suspect at this point

 Did you get any sniffer traces?  If your emulator is PCOMM, it has
 built-in tracing capabilities.  (Other brands may, too.)

 Alan Altmark
 z/VM Development
 IBM Endicott



Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-12 Thread James M
sorry...I hit submit by accident.
The trace does not point out any obvious clues.
I see the initial three way handshake
then I see the icc port send a do tn3270e command
the pc sends an ack
the icc sends back fin

I'm not enough of an ip guru to diagnose exactly why that happened or
for that matter if that info is in the trace.
-Jim

On 9/12/07, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wednesday, 09/12/2007 at 12:13 EDT, James M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I tried rebooting. Mystery remains unsolved.
  I'm bringing the pc back to the home office. I will re-install windows
   tn3270 emulator. I will be back at mainframe site on friday to test
  it. Although there is no evidence indicating something is wrong with
  the pc it is the main suspect at this point

 Did you get any sniffer traces?  If your emulator is PCOMM, it has
 built-in tracing capabilities.  (Other brands may, too.)

 Alan Altmark
 z/VM Development
 IBM Endicott



Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-11 Thread Edward M. Martin
Hello Everyone,

Is it possible that the PC that can not connect can be rebooted?
(It what you do with a PC).

In the TN3270 you may have LU or PORT name that is being kept in
memory for that connection, so you can not start another one until that
LU/PORT in memory has been cleared.

And since the Operator is not sure what happened, you may have
disconnected and not removed the actual connection on the PC.

Ed Martin 
Aultman Health Foundation
330-588-4723
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
ext. 40441


z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-10 Thread James M
Over the weekend an operator I did something..I don't know what that
has rendered the ICC vm console unusable.
I tried disable/enable cuu, vary off/on path to cuu and dropping the
session from the HMC ICC utilities menu all to no avail.
Can someone please suggest other possible solutions. Thanks
-Jim


Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-10 Thread David Kreuter
from the hmc try resetting the OSA port at the chpid level.
David



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of James M
Sent: Mon 9/10/2007 10:47 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: [IBMVM] z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems



Over the weekend an operator I did something..I don't know what that
has rendered the ICC vm console unusable.
I tried disable/enable cuu, vary off/on path to cuu and dropping the
session from the HMC ICC utilities menu all to no avail.
Can someone please suggest other possible solutions. Thanks
-Jim





Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-10 Thread Rich Smrcina

What does a query to the device show?

James M wrote:

Over the weekend an operator I did something..I don't know what that
has rendered the ICC vm console unusable.
I tried disable/enable cuu, vary off/on path to cuu and dropping the
session from the HMC ICC utilities menu all to no avail.
Can someone please suggest other possible solutions. Thanks
-Jim



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Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-10 Thread Eric Schadow
Jim

What does a Q cua of the OSA ICC console address show?

Did you try disconnecting and reconnecting the TN3270 software?

Eric



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Subject: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems


Over the weekend an operator I did something..I don't know what that
has rendered the ICC vm console unusable.
I tried disable/enable cuu, vary off/on path to cuu and dropping the
session from the HMC ICC utilities menu all to no avail.
Can someone please suggest other possible solutions. Thanks
-Jim




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Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-10 Thread James M
device shows enabled.
I cannot reset the port on the hmc since it's a dual port card (icc 
tcpip) and that would mean dropping many vm  os telnet clients.

On 9/10/07, David Kreuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 from the hmc try resetting the OSA port at the chpid level.
 David

  
  From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of James M
 Sent: Mon 9/10/2007 10:47 AM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: [IBMVM] z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems




 Over the weekend an operator I did something..I don't know what that
 has rendered the ICC vm console unusable.
 I tried disable/enable cuu, vary off/on path to cuu and dropping the
 session from the HMC ICC utilities menu all to no avail.
 Can someone please suggest other possible solutions. Thanks
 -Jim




Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-10 Thread Rich Smrcina
Resetting the ICC port will only affect the ICC users, if most of your 
users are coming in through VM's TCP/IP stack, it's not using the ICC. 
If only your console or datacenter users use the ICC, you can reset it 
without affecting your users.


James M wrote:

device shows enabled.
I cannot reset the port on the hmc since it's a dual port card (icc 
tcpip) and that would mean dropping many vm  os telnet clients.

On 9/10/07, David Kreuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



from the hmc try resetting the OSA port at the chpid level.
David

 
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of James M
Sent: Mon 9/10/2007 10:47 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: [IBMVM] z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems




Over the weekend an operator I did something..I don't know what that
has rendered the ICC vm console unusable.
I tried disable/enable cuu, vary off/on path to cuu and dropping the
session from the HMC ICC utilities menu all to no avail.
Can someone please suggest other possible solutions. Thanks
-Jim






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Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-10 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 09/10/2007 at 11:16 EDT, James M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 device shows enabled.
 I cannot reset the port on the hmc since it's a dual port card (icc 
 tcpip) and that would mean dropping many vm  os telnet clients.

Don't worry, you can't reset the entire card (feature).  Each port has 
its own chpid, so you only want/need to reset the failing chpid.

Of course, you might want to call the Support Center and open a hardware 
PMR in case they want you to collect some diagnostic data before resetting 
it.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-10 Thread James M
I did try toggling the chpid off/on in each of the lpars but I'm not
sure it worked properly.
it went from online/online to online/standby. I never did see the
current state go to offline!

On 9/10/07, Rich Smrcina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Resetting the ICC port will only affect the ICC users, if most of your
 users are coming in through VM's TCP/IP stack, it's not using the ICC.
 If only your console or datacenter users use the ICC, you can reset it
 without affecting your users.

 James M wrote:
  device shows enabled.
  I cannot reset the port on the hmc since it's a dual port card (icc 
  tcpip) and that would mean dropping many vm  os telnet clients.
 
  On 9/10/07, David Kreuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  from the hmc try resetting the OSA port at the chpid level.
  David
 
   
   From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of James M
  Sent: Mon 9/10/2007 10:47 AM
  To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
  Subject: [IBMVM] z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems
 
 
 
 
  Over the weekend an operator I did something..I don't know what that
  has rendered the ICC vm console unusable.
  I tried disable/enable cuu, vary off/on path to cuu and dropping the
  session from the HMC ICC utilities menu all to no avail.
  Can someone please suggest other possible solutions. Thanks
  -Jim
 
 
 

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 Rich Smrcina
 VM Assist, Inc.
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 Ans Service:  360-715-2467
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Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-10 Thread Ivica Brodaric
Did you vary it offline from all LPARs at the same time?

On 11/09/2007, James M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I did try toggling the chpid off/on in each of the lpars but I'm not
 sure it worked properly.
 it went from online/online to online/standby. I never did see the
 current state go to offline!

 On 9/10/07, Rich Smrcina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Resetting the ICC port will only affect the ICC users, if most of your
  users are coming in through VM's TCP/IP stack, it's not using the ICC.
  If only your console or datacenter users use the ICC, you can reset it
  without affecting your users.
 
  James M wrote:
   device shows enabled.
   I cannot reset the port on the hmc since it's a dual port card (icc 
   tcpip) and that would mean dropping many vm  os telnet clients.
  
   On 9/10/07, David Kreuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
   from the hmc try resetting the OSA port at the chpid level.
   David
  

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of James M
   Sent: Mon 9/10/2007 10:47 AM
   To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
   Subject: [IBMVM] z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems
  
  
  
  
   Over the weekend an operator I did something..I don't know what
 that
   has rendered the ICC vm console unusable.
   I tried disable/enable cuu, vary off/on path to cuu and dropping the
   session from the HMC ICC utilities menu all to no avail.
   Can someone please suggest other possible solutions. Thanks
   -Jim
  
  
  
 
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Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-10 Thread James M
maybe we're getting someplace.
are you suggesting that I have to config path off in all the lpars and
then config it on in all?
what I did was off/on in lpar 1 - off/on lpar2 and so on.


On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Did you vary it offline from all LPARs at the same time?


 On 11/09/2007, James M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I did try toggling the chpid off/on in each of the lpars but I'm not
  sure it worked properly.
  it went from online/online to online/standby. I never did see the
  current state go to offline!
 
  On 9/10/07, Rich Smrcina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Resetting the ICC port will only affect the ICC users, if most of your
   users are coming in through VM's TCP/IP stack, it's not using the ICC.
   If only your console or datacenter users use the ICC, you can reset it
   without affecting your users.
  
   James M wrote:
device shows enabled.
I cannot reset the port on the hmc since it's a dual port card (icc 
tcpip) and that would mean dropping many vm  os telnet clients.
   
On 9/10/07, David Kreuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   
from the hmc try resetting the OSA port at the chpid level.
David
   
 
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of James M
Sent: Mon 9/10/2007 10:47 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: [IBMVM] z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems
   
   
   
   
Over the weekend an operator I did something..I don't know what
 that
has rendered the ICC vm console unusable.
I tried disable/enable cuu, vary off/on path to cuu and dropping the
session from the HMC ICC utilities menu all to no avail.
Can someone please suggest other possible solutions. Thanks
-Jim
   
   
   
  
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   Phone: 414-491-6001
   Ans Service:  360-715-2467
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Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-10 Thread Ivica Brodaric
Yes. It has to be offline to all LPARs in order to reset itself.

On 11/09/2007, James M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 maybe we're getting someplace.
 are you suggesting that I have to config path off in all the lpars and
 then config it on in all?
 what I did was off/on in lpar 1 - off/on lpar2 and so on.


 On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Did you vary it offline from all LPARs at the same time?
 
 
  On 11/09/2007, James M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I did try toggling the chpid off/on in each of the lpars but I'm not
   sure it worked properly.
   it went from online/online to online/standby. I never did see the
   current state go to offline!
  
   On 9/10/07, Rich Smrcina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Resetting the ICC port will only affect the ICC users, if most of
 your
users are coming in through VM's TCP/IP stack, it's not using the
 ICC.
If only your console or datacenter users use the ICC, you can reset
 it
without affecting your users.
   
James M wrote:
 device shows enabled.
 I cannot reset the port on the hmc since it's a dual port card
 (icc 
 tcpip) and that would mean dropping many vm  os telnet clients.

 On 9/10/07, David Kreuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 from the hmc try resetting the OSA port at the chpid level.
 David

  
  From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of James M
 Sent: Mon 9/10/2007 10:47 AM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: [IBMVM] z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems




 Over the weekend an operator I did something..I don't know what
  that
 has rendered the ICC vm console unusable.
 I tried disable/enable cuu, vary off/on path to cuu and dropping
 the
 session from the HMC ICC utilities menu all to no avail.
 Can someone please suggest other possible solutions. Thanks
 -Jim



   
--
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VM Assist, Inc.
Phone: 414-491-6001
Ans Service:  360-715-2467
rich.smrcina at vmassist.com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina
   
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Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-10 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 09/10/2007 at 12:05 EDT, James M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 maybe we're getting someplace.
 are you suggesting that I have to config path off in all the lpars and
 then config it on in all?
 what I did was off/on in lpar 1 - off/on lpar2 and so on.

off lpar 1
off lpar 2
:
off last lpar
on lpar 1
on lpar 2
:
on last lpar

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-10 Thread James M
OK thanks. I varied all off first and the all on.
I saw all the devices go off and come back online on operx.
...but it didn't help - I still cannot connect from the pc to the icc port.
I did enable the console cuu before trying.

On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes. It has to be offline to all LPARs in order to reset itself.


 On 11/09/2007, James M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  maybe we're getting someplace.
  are you suggesting that I have to config path off in all the lpars and
  then config it on in all?
  what I did was off/on in lpar 1 - off/on lpar2 and so on.
 
 
  On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Did you vary it offline from all LPARs at the same time?
  
  
   On 11/09/2007, James M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I did try toggling the chpid off/on in each of the lpars but I'm not
sure it worked properly.
it went from online/online to online/standby. I never did see the
current state go to offline!
   
On 9/10/07, Rich Smrcina [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 Resetting the ICC port will only affect the ICC users, if most of
 your
 users are coming in through VM's TCP/IP stack, it's not using the
 ICC.
 If only your console or datacenter users use the ICC, you can reset
 it
 without affecting your users.

 James M wrote:
  device shows enabled.
  I cannot reset the port on the hmc since it's a dual port card
 (icc 
  tcpip) and that would mean dropping many vm  os telnet clients.
 
  On 9/10/07, David Kreuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
 
  from the hmc try resetting the OSA port at the chpid level.
  David
 
   __ __
   From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of James M
  Sent: Mon 9/10/2007 10:47 AM
  To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
  Subject: [IBMVM] z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems
 
 
 
 
  Over the weekend an operator I did something..I don't know what
   that
  has rendered the ICC vm console unusable.
  I tried disable/enable cuu, vary off/on path to cuu and dropping
 the
  session from the HMC ICC utilities menu all to no avail.
  Can someone please suggest other possible solutions. Thanks
  -Jim
 
 
 

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 Phone: 414-491-6001
 Ans Service:  360-715-2467
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Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-10 Thread Eric Schadow
can you ping the ICC IP address from the PC?

I would check the PC TN 3270 target address?

Eric





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Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-10 Thread Feller, Paul
 If I understand correctly you can't get the PC to connect to the
OSA-ICC port.  Can you ping the IP address of the OSA port from the PC?
If not, then it sounds like a network problem.  Do you get any error
message on the PC when you try to connect to the OSA port? 


Paul Feller 
AIT Mainframe Technical Support 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(319)-355-7824 


-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of James M
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 11:32 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

OK thanks. I varied all off first and the all on.
I saw all the devices go off and come back online on operx.
...but it didn't help - I still cannot connect from the pc to the icc
port.
I did enable the console cuu before trying.

On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes. It has to be offline to all LPARs in order to reset itself.


 On 11/09/2007, James M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  maybe we're getting someplace.
  are you suggesting that I have to config path off in all the lpars 
  and then config it on in all?
  what I did was off/on in lpar 1 - off/on lpar2 and so on.
 
 
  On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Did you vary it offline from all LPARs at the same time?
  
  
   On 11/09/2007, James M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I did try toggling the chpid off/on in each of the lpars but I'm

not sure it worked properly.
it went from online/online to online/standby. I never did see 
the current state go to offline!
   
On 9/10/07, Rich Smrcina [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 Resetting the ICC port will only affect the ICC users, if most

 of
 your
 users are coming in through VM's TCP/IP stack, it's not using 
 the
 ICC.
 If only your console or datacenter users use the ICC, you can 
 reset
 it
 without affecting your users.

 James M wrote:
  device shows enabled.
  I cannot reset the port on the hmc since it's a dual port 
  card
 (icc 
  tcpip) and that would mean dropping many vm  os telnet
clients.
 
  On 9/10/07, David Kreuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
 
  from the hmc try resetting the OSA port at the chpid level.
  David
 
   __ __
   From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of James M
  Sent: Mon 9/10/2007 10:47 AM
  To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
  Subject: [IBMVM] z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems
 
 
 
 
  Over the weekend an operator I did something..I don't know
what
   that
  has rendered the ICC vm console unusable.
  I tried disable/enable cuu, vary off/on path to cuu and 
  dropping
 the
  session from the HMC ICC utilities menu all to no avail.
  Can someone please suggest other possible solutions. Thanks

  -Jim
 
 
 

 --
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 VM Assist, Inc.
 Phone: 414-491-6001
 Ans Service:  360-715-2467
 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com
 http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina

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Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-10 Thread Ivica Brodaric
Let's be clear. On all LPARs:
CP VARY OFF PATH xx FROM ALL
CP VARY OFF CHPID xx

Then on each LPAR:

CP VARY ON CHPID xx

Did you do that?

On 11/09/2007, James M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 OK thanks. I varied all off first and the all on.
 I saw all the devices go off and come back online on operx.
 ...but it didn't help - I still cannot connect from the pc to the icc
 port.
 I did enable the console cuu before trying.

 On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Yes. It has to be offline to all LPARs in order to reset itself.
 
 
  On 11/09/2007, James M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   maybe we're getting someplace.
   are you suggesting that I have to config path off in all the lpars and
   then config it on in all?
   what I did was off/on in lpar 1 - off/on lpar2 and so on.
  
  
   On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Did you vary it offline from all LPARs at the same time?
   
   
On 11/09/2007, James M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I did try toggling the chpid off/on in each of the lpars but I'm
 not
 sure it worked properly.
 it went from online/online to online/standby. I never did see the
 current state go to offline!

 On 9/10/07, Rich Smrcina [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  Resetting the ICC port will only affect the ICC users, if most
 of
  your
  users are coming in through VM's TCP/IP stack, it's not using
 the
  ICC.
  If only your console or datacenter users use the ICC, you can
 reset
  it
  without affecting your users.
 
  James M wrote:
   device shows enabled.
   I cannot reset the port on the hmc since it's a dual port card
  (icc 
   tcpip) and that would mean dropping many vm  os telnet
 clients.
  
   On 9/10/07, David Kreuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  
  
   from the hmc try resetting the OSA port at the chpid level.
   David
  
__ __
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of James M
   Sent: Mon 9/10/2007 10:47 AM
   To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
   Subject: [IBMVM] z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems
  
  
  
  
   Over the weekend an operator I did something..I don't know
 what
that
   has rendered the ICC vm console unusable.
   I tried disable/enable cuu, vary off/on path to cuu and
 dropping
  the
   session from the HMC ICC utilities menu all to no avail.
   Can someone please suggest other possible solutions. Thanks
   -Jim
  
  
  
 
  --
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  VM Assist, Inc.
  Phone: 414-491-6001
  Ans Service:  360-715-2467
  rich.smrcina at vmassist.com
  http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina
 
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Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-10 Thread James M
I do not have access to all the os's that run in each lpar so I did
everything from the HMC.
I higlighted each image one by one and configured the channel path off.
I again highlighted each image and this time configured the channel online.
FYI - the only image that is actually using the ICC chpid is the vm
5.2 system which I do have access to.
-jim
On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Let's be clear. On all LPARs:

 CP VARY OFF PATH xx FROM ALL
 CP VARY OFF CHPID xx

 Then on each LPAR:

 CP VARY ON CHPID xx

 Did you do that?


 On 11/09/2007, James M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  OK thanks. I varied all off first and the all on.
  I saw all the devices go off and come back online on operx.
  ...but it didn't help - I still cannot connect from the pc to the icc
 port.
  I did enable the console cuu before trying.
 
  On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Yes. It has to be offline to all LPARs in order to reset itself.
  
  
   On 11/09/2007, James M  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
maybe we're getting someplace.
are you suggesting that I have to config path off in all the lpars and
then config it on in all?
what I did was off/on in lpar 1 - off/on lpar2 and so on.
   
   
On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Did you vary it offline from all LPARs at the same time?


 On 11/09/2007, James M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I did try toggling the chpid off/on in each of the lpars but I'm
 not
  sure it worked properly.
  it went from online/online to online/standby. I never did see the
  current state go to offline!
 
  On 9/10/07, Rich Smrcina  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
   Resetting the ICC port will only affect the ICC users, if most
 of
   your
   users are coming in through VM's TCP/IP stack, it's not using
 the
   ICC.
   If only your console or datacenter users use the ICC, you can
 reset
   it
   without affecting your users.
  
   James M wrote:
device shows enabled.
I cannot reset the port on the hmc since it's a dual port card
   (icc 
tcpip) and that would mean dropping many vm  os telnet
 clients.
   
On 9/10/07, David Kreuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
   
   
from the hmc try resetting the OSA port at the chpid level.
David
   
 __ __
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of James M
Sent: Mon 9/10/2007 10:47 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: [IBMVM] z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems
   
   
   
   
Over the weekend an operator I did something..I don't know
 what
 that
has rendered the ICC vm console unusable.
I tried disable/enable cuu, vary off/on path to cuu and
 dropping
   the
session from the HMC ICC utilities menu all to no avail.
Can someone please suggest other possible solutions. Thanks
-Jim
   
   
   
  
   --
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   VM Assist, Inc.
   Phone: 414-491-6001
   Ans Service:  360-715-2467
   rich.smrcina at vmassist.com
   http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina
  
   Catch the WAVV!   http://www.wavv.org
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Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-10 Thread Ivica Brodaric
That should be OK. Try to ping the IP address from the PC. Do traceroute if
you can't ping.

On 11/09/2007, James M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I do not have access to all the os's that run in each lpar so I did
 everything from the HMC.
 I higlighted each image one by one and configured the channel path off.
 I again highlighted each image and this time configured the channel
 online.
 FYI - the only image that is actually using the ICC chpid is the vm
 5.2 system which I do have access to.
 -jim
 On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Let's be clear. On all LPARs:
 
  CP VARY OFF PATH xx FROM ALL
  CP VARY OFF CHPID xx
 
  Then on each LPAR:
 
  CP VARY ON CHPID xx
 
  Did you do that?
 
 
  On 11/09/2007, James M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   OK thanks. I varied all off first and the all on.
   I saw all the devices go off and come back online on operx.
   ...but it didn't help - I still cannot connect from the pc to the icc
  port.
   I did enable the console cuu before trying.
  
   On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes. It has to be offline to all LPARs in order to reset itself.
   
   
On 11/09/2007, James M  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 maybe we're getting someplace.
 are you suggesting that I have to config path off in all the lpars
 and
 then config it on in all?
 what I did was off/on in lpar 1 - off/on lpar2 and so on.


 On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Did you vary it offline from all LPARs at the same time?
 
 
  On 11/09/2007, James M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I did try toggling the chpid off/on in each of the lpars but
 I'm
  not
   sure it worked properly.
   it went from online/online to online/standby. I never did see
 the
   current state go to offline!
  
   On 9/10/07, Rich Smrcina  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
Resetting the ICC port will only affect the ICC users, if
 most
  of
your
users are coming in through VM's TCP/IP stack, it's not
 using
  the
ICC.
If only your console or datacenter users use the ICC, you
 can
  reset
it
without affecting your users.
   
James M wrote:
 device shows enabled.
 I cannot reset the port on the hmc since it's a dual port
 card
(icc 
 tcpip) and that would mean dropping many vm  os telnet
  clients.

 On 9/10/07, David Kreuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:


 from the hmc try resetting the OSA port at the chpid
 level.
 David

  __ __
  From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of James M
 Sent: Mon 9/10/2007 10:47 AM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: [IBMVM] z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems




 Over the weekend an operator I did something..I don't
 know
  what
  that
 has rendered the ICC vm console unusable.
 I tried disable/enable cuu, vary off/on path to cuu and
  dropping
the
 session from the HMC ICC utilities menu all to no avail.
 Can someone please suggest other possible solutions.
 Thanks
 -Jim



   
--
Rich Smrcina
VM Assist, Inc.
Phone: 414-491-6001
Ans Service:  360-715-2467
rich.smrcina at vmassist.com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina
   
Catch the WAVV!   http://www.wavv.org
WAVV 2008 - Chattanooga - April 18-22, 2008
   
  
 
 

   
   
  
 
 



Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-10 Thread James M
ping works!

On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That should be OK. Try to ping the IP address from the PC. Do traceroute if
 you can't ping.


 On 11/09/2007, James M  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I do not have access to all the os's that run in each lpar so I did
  everything from the HMC.
  I higlighted each image one by one and configured the channel path off.
  I again highlighted each image and this time configured the channel
 online.
  FYI - the only image that is actually using the ICC chpid is the vm
  5.2 system which I do have access to.
  -jim
  On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Let's be clear. On all LPARs:
  
   CP VARY OFF PATH xx FROM ALL
   CP VARY OFF CHPID xx
  
   Then on each LPAR:
  
   CP VARY ON CHPID xx
  
   Did you do that?
  
  
   On 11/09/2007, James M  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK thanks. I varied all off first and the all on.
I saw all the devices go off and come back online on operx.
...but it didn't help - I still cannot connect from the pc to the icc
   port.
I did enable the console cuu before trying.
   
On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes. It has to be offline to all LPARs in order to reset itself.


 On 11/09/2007, James M  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  maybe we're getting someplace.
  are you suggesting that I have to config path off in all the lpars
 and
  then config it on in all?
  what I did was off/on in lpar 1 - off/on lpar2 and so on.
 
 
  On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Did you vary it offline from all LPARs at the same time?
  
  
   On 11/09/2007, James M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I did try toggling the chpid off/on in each of the lpars but
 I'm
   not
sure it worked properly.
it went from online/online to online/standby. I never did see
 the
current state go to offline!
   
On 9/10/07, Rich Smrcina  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 Resetting the ICC port will only affect the ICC users, if
 most
   of
 your
 users are coming in through VM's TCP/IP stack, it's not
 using
   the
 ICC.
 If only your console or datacenter users use the ICC, you
 can
   reset
 it
 without affecting your users.

 James M wrote:
  device shows enabled.
  I cannot reset the port on the hmc since it's a dual port
 card
 (icc 
  tcpip) and that would mean dropping many vm  os telnet
   clients.
 
  On 9/10/07, David Kreuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
 
  from the hmc try resetting the OSA port at the chpid
 level.
  David
 
   __ __
   From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of James M
  Sent: Mon 9/10/2007 10:47 AM
  To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
  Subject: [IBMVM] z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems
 
 
 
 
  Over the weekend an operator I did something..I don't
 know
   what
   that
  has rendered the ICC vm console unusable.
  I tried disable/enable cuu, vary off/on path to cuu and
   dropping
 the
  session from the HMC ICC utilities menu all to no avail.
  Can someone please suggest other possible solutions.
 Thanks
  -Jim
 
 
 

 --
 Rich Smrcina
 VM Assist, Inc.
 Phone: 414-491-6001
 Ans Service:  360-715-2467
 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com
 http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina

 Catch the WAVV!   http://www.wavv.org
 WAVV 2008 - Chattanooga - April 18-22, 2008

   
  
  
 


   
  
  
 




Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-10 Thread Ivica Brodaric
Then it's likely not a card but a network problem. Asymmetric routing maybe?
Do you get any errors when you try to connect?
On 11/09/2007, James M  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ping works!

 On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  That should be OK. Try to ping the IP address from the PC. Do traceroute
 if
  you can't ping.
 
 
  On 11/09/2007, James M  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I do not have access to all the os's that run in each lpar so I did
   everything from the HMC.
   I higlighted each image one by one and configured the channel path
 off.
   I again highlighted each image and this time configured the channel
  online.
   FYI - the only image that is actually using the ICC chpid is the vm
   5.2 system which I do have access to.
   -jim
   On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let's be clear. On all LPARs:
   
CP VARY OFF PATH xx FROM ALL
CP VARY OFF CHPID xx
   
Then on each LPAR:
   
CP VARY ON CHPID xx
   
Did you do that?
   
   
On 11/09/2007, James M  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 OK thanks. I varied all off first and the all on.
 I saw all the devices go off and come back online on operx.
 ...but it didn't help - I still cannot connect from the pc to the
 icc
port.
 I did enable the console cuu before trying.

 On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Yes. It has to be offline to all LPARs in order to reset itself.
 
 
  On 11/09/2007, James M  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   maybe we're getting someplace.
   are you suggesting that I have to config path off in all the
 lpars
  and
   then config it on in all?
   what I did was off/on in lpar 1 - off/on lpar2 and so on.
  
  
   On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Did you vary it offline from all LPARs at the same time?
   
   
On 11/09/2007, James M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I did try toggling the chpid off/on in each of the lpars
 but
  I'm
not
 sure it worked properly.
 it went from online/online to online/standby. I never did
 see
  the
 current state go to offline!

 On 9/10/07, Rich Smrcina  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  Resetting the ICC port will only affect the ICC users,
 if
  most
of
  your
  users are coming in through VM's TCP/IP stack, it's not
  using
the
  ICC.
  If only your console or datacenter users use the ICC,
 you
  can
reset
  it
  without affecting your users.
 
  James M wrote:
   device shows enabled.
   I cannot reset the port on the hmc since it's a dual
 port
  card
  (icc 
   tcpip) and that would mean dropping many vm  os
 telnet
clients.
  
   On 9/10/07, David Kreuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  
  
   from the hmc try resetting the OSA port at the chpid
  level.
   David
  
__ __
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of
 James M
   Sent: Mon 9/10/2007 10:47 AM
   To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
   Subject: [IBMVM] z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection
 problems
  
  
  
  
   Over the weekend an operator I did something..I
 don't
  know
what
that
   has rendered the ICC vm console unusable.
   I tried disable/enable cuu, vary off/on path to cuu
 and
dropping
  the
   session from the HMC ICC utilities menu all to no
 avail.
   Can someone please suggest other possible solutions.
  Thanks
   -Jim
  
  
  
 
  --
  Rich Smrcina
  VM Assist, Inc.
  Phone: 414-491-6001
  Ans Service:  360-715-2467
  rich.smrcina at vmassist.com
  http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina
 
  Catch the WAVV!   http://www.wavv.org
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Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-10 Thread James M
I get various results
sometimes I get no error
sometimes I get unable to connect to host
some times unable to find host/gateway

I have another backup pc that is able to connect to the ICC
...and on the pc that cannot connect to the icc I am able to connect
to vm's tcpip
very weird...don't know what to do

diagnostics on the icc shows no errors
ibm ce is here now also scratching his head. (he also accidently
varied off the wrong chpid bringing down my whole ip network).
-Jim

On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Then it's likely not a card but a network problem. Asymmetric routing maybe?
 Do you get any errors when you try to connect?

 On 11/09/2007, James M  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  ping works!
 
  On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   That should be OK. Try to ping the IP address from the PC. Do traceroute
 if
   you can't ping.
  
  
   On 11/09/2007, James M  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I do not have access to all the os's that run in each lpar so I did
everything from the HMC.
I higlighted each image one by one and configured the channel path
 off.
I again highlighted each image and this time configured the channel
   online.
FYI - the only image that is actually using the ICC chpid is the vm
5.2 system which I do have access to.
-jim
On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Let's be clear. On all LPARs:

 CP VARY OFF PATH xx FROM ALL
 CP VARY OFF CHPID xx

 Then on each LPAR:

 CP VARY ON CHPID xx

 Did you do that?


 On 11/09/2007, James M  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  OK thanks. I varied all off first and the all on.
  I saw all the devices go off and come back online on operx.
  ...but it didn't help - I still cannot connect from the pc to the
 icc
 port.
  I did enable the console cuu before trying.
 
  On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Yes. It has to be offline to all LPARs in order to reset itself.
  
  
   On 11/09/2007, James M  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
maybe we're getting someplace.
are you suggesting that I have to config path off in all the
 lpars
   and
then config it on in all?
what I did was off/on in lpar 1 - off/on lpar2 and so on.
   
   
On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Did you vary it offline from all LPARs at the same time?


 On 11/09/2007, James M  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I did try toggling the chpid off/on in each of the lpars
 but
   I'm
 not
  sure it worked properly.
  it went from online/online to online/standby. I never did
 see
   the
  current state go to offline!
 
  On 9/10/07, Rich Smrcina  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
   Resetting the ICC port will only affect the ICC users,
 if
   most
 of
   your
   users are coming in through VM's TCP/IP stack, it's not
   using
 the
   ICC.
   If only your console or datacenter users use the ICC,
 you
   can
 reset
   it
   without affecting your users.
  
   James M wrote:
device shows enabled.
I cannot reset the port on the hmc since it's a dual
 port
   card
   (icc 
tcpip) and that would mean dropping many vm  os
 telnet
 clients.
   
On 9/10/07, David Kreuter  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   wrote:
   
   
from the hmc try resetting the OSA port at the chpid
   level.
David
   
 __  __
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of
 James M
Sent: Mon 9/10/2007 10:47 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: [IBMVM] z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection
 problems
   
   
   
   
Over the weekend an operator I did something..I
 don't
   know
 what
 that
has rendered the ICC vm console unusable.
I tried disable/enable cuu, vary off/on path to cuu
 and
 dropping
   the
session from the HMC ICC utilities menu all to no
 avail.
Can someone please suggest other possible solutions.
   Thanks
-Jim
   
   
   
  
   --
   Rich Smrcina
   VM Assist, Inc.
   Phone: 414-491-6001
   Ans Service:  360-715-2467
   rich.smrcina at vmassist.com
   http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina
  
   Catch the WAVV!   http://www.wavv.org
   WAVV 2008 - Chattanooga - April 18-22, 2008
  
 


   
  
  
 


   
  
  
 




Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-10 Thread Eric Schadow
James

Since the challenge started when the Operator did something I would tend to 
think the error lies on the PC acting as the console and not with the OSA ICC 
acting..

Look at the VM OPERATOR console at the time of the failure and see if the 
operator typed something  on the console..

Did you check the TN3270 config on the PC?

Eric




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Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-10 Thread James M
I checked the tn3270 profile - it looks fine and the operator log is
unavailable.

On 9/10/07, Eric Schadow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 James

 Since the challenge started when the Operator did something I would tend to 
 think the error lies on the PC acting as the console and not with the OSA ICC 
 acting..

 Look at the VM OPERATOR console at the time of the failure and see if the 
 operator typed something  on the console..

 Did you check the TN3270 config on the PC?

 Eric



 
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Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-10 Thread Peter . Webb
Is this PC multi-homed? Does your ICC Intranet have a connection to your
regular Intranet?

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of James M
Sent: September 10, 2007 14:21
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

I get various results
sometimes I get no error
sometimes I get unable to connect to host
some times unable to find host/gateway

I have another backup pc that is able to connect to the ICC
...and on the pc that cannot connect to the icc I am able to connect
to vm's tcpip
very weird...don't know what to do

diagnostics on the icc shows no errors
ibm ce is here now also scratching his head. (he also accidently
varied off the wrong chpid bringing down my whole ip network).
-Jim

On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Then it's likely not a card but a network problem. Asymmetric routing
maybe?
 Do you get any errors when you try to connect?

 On 11/09/2007, James M  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  ping works!
 
  On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   That should be OK. Try to ping the IP address from the PC. Do
traceroute
 if
   you can't ping.
  
  
   On 11/09/2007, James M  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I do not have access to all the os's that run in each lpar so I
did
everything from the HMC.
I higlighted each image one by one and configured the channel
path
 off.
I again highlighted each image and this time configured the
channel
   online.
FYI - the only image that is actually using the ICC chpid is the
vm
5.2 system which I do have access to.
-jim
On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Let's be clear. On all LPARs:

 CP VARY OFF PATH xx FROM ALL
 CP VARY OFF CHPID xx

 Then on each LPAR:

 CP VARY ON CHPID xx

 Did you do that?


 On 11/09/2007, James M  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  OK thanks. I varied all off first and the all on.
  I saw all the devices go off and come back online on operx.
  ...but it didn't help - I still cannot connect from the pc
to the
 icc
 port.
  I did enable the console cuu before trying.
 
  On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
   Yes. It has to be offline to all LPARs in order to reset
itself.
  
  
   On 11/09/2007, James M  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
maybe we're getting someplace.
are you suggesting that I have to config path off in all
the
 lpars
   and
then config it on in all?
what I did was off/on in lpar 1 - off/on lpar2 and so
on.
   
   
On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Did you vary it offline from all LPARs at the same
time?


 On 11/09/2007, James M  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I did try toggling the chpid off/on in each of the
lpars
 but
   I'm
 not
  sure it worked properly.
  it went from online/online to online/standby. I
never did
 see
   the
  current state go to offline!
 
  On 9/10/07, Rich Smrcina  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
   Resetting the ICC port will only affect the ICC
users,
 if
   most
 of
   your
   users are coming in through VM's TCP/IP stack,
it's not
   using
 the
   ICC.
   If only your console or datacenter users use the
ICC,
 you
   can
 reset
   it
   without affecting your users.
  
   James M wrote:
device shows enabled.
I cannot reset the port on the hmc since it's a
dual
 port
   card
   (icc 
tcpip) and that would mean dropping many vm  os
 telnet
 clients.
   
On 9/10/07, David Kreuter 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   wrote:
   
   
from the hmc try resetting the OSA port at the
chpid
   level.
David
   
 __  __
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf
of
 James M
Sent: Mon 9/10/2007 10:47 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: [IBMVM] z/VM 5.2 ICC console
connection
 problems
   
   
   
   
Over the weekend an operator I did
something..I
 don't
   know
 what
 that
has rendered the ICC vm console unusable.
I tried disable/enable cuu, vary off/on path to
cuu
 and
 dropping
   the
session from the HMC ICC utilities menu all to
no
 avail.
Can someone please suggest other possible
solutions.
   Thanks
-Jim
   
   
   
  
   --
   Rich Smrcina
   VM Assist, Inc.
   Phone: 414-491-6001
   Ans Service:  360-715-2467
   rich.smrcina at vmassist.com
   http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina
  
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Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-10 Thread David Kreuter
... you're having a fun day ... only a few hours left in prime shift ...
David


-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of James M
Sent: Mon 9/10/2007 2:51 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: [IBMVM] z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems
 
I checked the tn3270 profile - it looks fine and the operator log is
unavailable.

On 9/10/07, Eric Schadow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 James

 Since the challenge started when the Operator did something I would tend to 
 think the error lies on the PC acting as the console and not with the OSA ICC 
 acting..

 Look at the VM OPERATOR console at the time of the failure and see if the 
 operator typed something  on the console..

 Did you check the TN3270 config on the PC?

 Eric



 
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Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-10 Thread James M
the icc is on the same subnet as the bad pc.
I will scream if this turns out to be a windows problem

here's a trace of two seperate tn3270 icc connection failures.
notice two different errors before the terminating session...
any socket programmers out there willing to looks at the trace...

[15:04:26.671] [1] Tracing has been enabled
[15:04:26.671] Starting program. Mon Sep 10 15:04:26 2007  Switches
'-p C:\Documents and Settings\Terminal User\Application
Data\Hummingbird\Connectivity\9.00\Profile\syjim.hep'
[15:04:26.671] Program Description: HostExplorer for Win32, Version:
9.0.0.0, Ansi CodePage: 1252
[15:04:26.671] Windows 2000 5.0 (Internal 3)(Build 2195) Service Pack
4 OEM ID 0, Processors 1, ProcessorType 586
[15:04:31.531] [1] Switched into NVT mode
[15:04:31.546] [1] WinSock Initialized. Version 1.1
[15:04:31.546] [1] WinSock Description: WinSock 2.0, Status: Running
[15:04:31.546] [1] Socket Close. Rc: -1
[15:04:31.546] [1] Resolved 192.207.28.160 to: 192.207.28.160, Port 23
[15:04:56.046] [1] NVT terminal type mode
[15:04:56.062] [1] Socket Recv., Rc: 3, WSA Rc 0, Input Size 1024
[15:04:56.062] [1] Recv completed. Data follows:
FF FD 28
[15:04:56.062] [1] Blocking Receive events...
[15:04:56.062] [1] Got DO TN3270E
[15:04:56.062] [1] Reply WILL TN3270E
[15:04:56.062] [1] Socket Send. Sending 3 bytes, Rc: 3. WSA Rc: 0
[15:04:56.062] [1] Send completed. Data follows:
FF FB 28
[15:04:56.062] [1] Unblocking Receive events...
[15:04:56.062] [1] Socket Recv., Rc: -1, WSA Rc 10053, Input Size 1024
[15:04:56.078] [1] Terminating Session
[15:04:56.078] [1] Socket Close. Rc: 0
[15:06:59.968] [1] Tracing has been disabled
[15:07:05.078] [1] Tracing has been enabled
[15:07:11.921] [1] Switched into NVT mode
[15:07:11.937] [1] WinSock Initialized. Version 1.1
[15:07:11.937] [1] WinSock Description: WinSock 2.0, Status: Running
[15:07:11.937] [1] Socket Close. Rc: -1
[15:07:11.937] [1] Resolved 192.207.28.160 to: 192.207.28.160, Port 23
[15:07:36.437] [1] NVT terminal type mode
[15:07:36.453] [1] Socket Recv., Rc: 3, WSA Rc 0, Input Size 1024
[15:07:36.453] [1] Recv completed. Data follows:
FF FD 28
[15:07:36.453] [1] Blocking Receive events...
[15:07:36.453] [1] Got DO TN3270E
[15:07:36.453] [1] Reply WILL TN3270E
[15:07:36.453] [1] Socket Send. Sending 3 bytes, Rc: 3. WSA Rc: 0
[15:07:36.453] [1] Send completed. Data follows:
FF FB 28
[15:07:36.453] [1] Unblocking Receive events...
[15:07:36.453] [1] Socket Recv., Rc: 0, WSA Rc 0, Input Size 1024
[15:07:36.453] [1] Terminating Session
[15:07:36.453] [1] Socket Close. Rc: 0

I'm particularly interested in WSA Rc 10053 and also why on the second
failure the rc = 0

-Jim
hummingbird host explorer emulator


On 9/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is this PC multi-homed? Does your ICC Intranet have a connection to your
 regular Intranet?

 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of James M
 Sent: September 10, 2007 14:21
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

 I get various results
 sometimes I get no error
 sometimes I get unable to connect to host
 some times unable to find host/gateway

 I have another backup pc that is able to connect to the ICC
 ...and on the pc that cannot connect to the icc I am able to connect
 to vm's tcpip
 very weird...don't know what to do

 diagnostics on the icc shows no errors
 ibm ce is here now also scratching his head. (he also accidently
 varied off the wrong chpid bringing down my whole ip network).
 -Jim

 On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Then it's likely not a card but a network problem. Asymmetric routing
 maybe?
  Do you get any errors when you try to connect?
 
  On 11/09/2007, James M  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   ping works!
  
   On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That should be OK. Try to ping the IP address from the PC. Do
 traceroute
  if
you can't ping.
   
   
On 11/09/2007, James M  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I do not have access to all the os's that run in each lpar so I
 did
 everything from the HMC.
 I higlighted each image one by one and configured the channel
 path
  off.
 I again highlighted each image and this time configured the
 channel
online.
 FYI - the only image that is actually using the ICC chpid is the
 vm
 5.2 system which I do have access to.
 -jim
 On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Let's be clear. On all LPARs:
 
  CP VARY OFF PATH xx FROM ALL
  CP VARY OFF CHPID xx
 
  Then on each LPAR:
 
  CP VARY ON CHPID xx
 
  Did you do that?
 
 
  On 11/09/2007, James M  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   OK thanks. I varied all off first and the all on.
   I saw all the devices go off and come back online on operx.
   ...but it didn't help - I still cannot connect from the pc
 to the
  icc
  port.
   I did

Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-10 Thread Peter . Webb
What I was leading to is, 'Do you have a routing problem?'. If the PC
you are having problems with is multi-homed and is on both your regular
Intranet and the ICC subnet, perhaps the operator messed up the
multi-homing and your tm3270 session is going through the wrong
connection.

If your ICC subnet connects into the rest of your Intranet, perhaps the
operator did something to mess up that routing.

I don't know much about this, except some reading towards (hopefully)
getting a z9, so these are mostly guesses.

Peter
 
-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of James M
Sent: September 10, 2007 15:24
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

the icc is on the same subnet as the bad pc.
I will scream if this turns out to be a windows problem

here's a trace of two seperate tn3270 icc connection failures.
notice two different errors before the terminating session...
any socket programmers out there willing to looks at the trace...

[15:04:26.671] [1] Tracing has been enabled
[15:04:26.671] Starting program. Mon Sep 10 15:04:26 2007  Switches
'-p C:\Documents and Settings\Terminal User\Application
Data\Hummingbird\Connectivity\9.00\Profile\syjim.hep'
[15:04:26.671] Program Description: HostExplorer for Win32, Version:
9.0.0.0, Ansi CodePage: 1252
[15:04:26.671] Windows 2000 5.0 (Internal 3)(Build 2195) Service Pack
4 OEM ID 0, Processors 1, ProcessorType 586
[15:04:31.531] [1] Switched into NVT mode
[15:04:31.546] [1] WinSock Initialized. Version 1.1
[15:04:31.546] [1] WinSock Description: WinSock 2.0, Status: Running
[15:04:31.546] [1] Socket Close. Rc: -1
[15:04:31.546] [1] Resolved 192.207.28.160 to: 192.207.28.160, Port 23
[15:04:56.046] [1] NVT terminal type mode
[15:04:56.062] [1] Socket Recv., Rc: 3, WSA Rc 0, Input Size 1024
[15:04:56.062] [1] Recv completed. Data follows:
FF FD 28
[15:04:56.062] [1] Blocking Receive events...
[15:04:56.062] [1] Got DO TN3270E
[15:04:56.062] [1] Reply WILL TN3270E
[15:04:56.062] [1] Socket Send. Sending 3 bytes, Rc: 3. WSA Rc: 0
[15:04:56.062] [1] Send completed. Data follows:
FF FB 28
[15:04:56.062] [1] Unblocking Receive events...
[15:04:56.062] [1] Socket Recv., Rc: -1, WSA Rc 10053, Input Size 1024
[15:04:56.078] [1] Terminating Session
[15:04:56.078] [1] Socket Close. Rc: 0
[15:06:59.968] [1] Tracing has been disabled
[15:07:05.078] [1] Tracing has been enabled
[15:07:11.921] [1] Switched into NVT mode
[15:07:11.937] [1] WinSock Initialized. Version 1.1
[15:07:11.937] [1] WinSock Description: WinSock 2.0, Status: Running
[15:07:11.937] [1] Socket Close. Rc: -1
[15:07:11.937] [1] Resolved 192.207.28.160 to: 192.207.28.160, Port 23
[15:07:36.437] [1] NVT terminal type mode
[15:07:36.453] [1] Socket Recv., Rc: 3, WSA Rc 0, Input Size 1024
[15:07:36.453] [1] Recv completed. Data follows:
FF FD 28
[15:07:36.453] [1] Blocking Receive events...
[15:07:36.453] [1] Got DO TN3270E
[15:07:36.453] [1] Reply WILL TN3270E
[15:07:36.453] [1] Socket Send. Sending 3 bytes, Rc: 3. WSA Rc: 0
[15:07:36.453] [1] Send completed. Data follows:
FF FB 28
[15:07:36.453] [1] Unblocking Receive events...
[15:07:36.453] [1] Socket Recv., Rc: 0, WSA Rc 0, Input Size 1024
[15:07:36.453] [1] Terminating Session
[15:07:36.453] [1] Socket Close. Rc: 0

I'm particularly interested in WSA Rc 10053 and also why on the second
failure the rc = 0

-Jim
hummingbird host explorer emulator


On 9/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is this PC multi-homed? Does your ICC Intranet have a connection to
your
 regular Intranet?

 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
 Behalf Of James M
 Sent: September 10, 2007 14:21
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

 I get various results
 sometimes I get no error
 sometimes I get unable to connect to host
 some times unable to find host/gateway

 I have another backup pc that is able to connect to the ICC
 ...and on the pc that cannot connect to the icc I am able to connect
 to vm's tcpip
 very weird...don't know what to do

 diagnostics on the icc shows no errors
 ibm ce is here now also scratching his head. (he also accidently
 varied off the wrong chpid bringing down my whole ip network).
 -Jim

 On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Then it's likely not a card but a network problem. Asymmetric
routing
 maybe?
  Do you get any errors when you try to connect?
 
  On 11/09/2007, James M  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   ping works!
  
   On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That should be OK. Try to ping the IP address from the PC. Do
 traceroute
  if
you can't ping.
   
   
On 11/09/2007, James M  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I do not have access to all the os's that run in each lpar so
I
 did
 everything from the HMC.
 I higlighted each image one by one and configured the channel
 path
  off.
 I again

Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-10 Thread James M
the pc has only one network interface but thanks for the thought.
IBM has left not knowing what the problem is but nevertheless ordered
a new osa card.
will see if that corrects the problem later
I'm leaving also (been here for 10+ hours).
Thanks for all the input - I will post any interesting news.

On 9/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What I was leading to is, 'Do you have a routing problem?'. If the PC
 you are having problems with is multi-homed and is on both your regular
 Intranet and the ICC subnet, perhaps the operator messed up the
 multi-homing and your tm3270 session is going through the wrong
 connection.

 If your ICC subnet connects into the rest of your Intranet, perhaps the
 operator did something to mess up that routing.

 I don't know much about this, except some reading towards (hopefully)
 getting a z9, so these are mostly guesses.

 Peter

 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of James M
 Sent: September 10, 2007 15:24
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

 the icc is on the same subnet as the bad pc.
 I will scream if this turns out to be a windows problem

 here's a trace of two seperate tn3270 icc connection failures.
 notice two different errors before the terminating session...
 any socket programmers out there willing to looks at the trace...

 [15:04:26.671] [1] Tracing has been enabled
 [15:04:26.671] Starting program. Mon Sep 10 15:04:26 2007  Switches
 '-p C:\Documents and Settings\Terminal User\Application
 Data\Hummingbird\Connectivity\9.00\Profile\syjim.hep'
 [15:04:26.671] Program Description: HostExplorer for Win32, Version:
 9.0.0.0, Ansi CodePage: 1252
 [15:04:26.671] Windows 2000 5.0 (Internal 3)(Build 2195) Service Pack
 4 OEM ID 0, Processors 1, ProcessorType 586
 [15:04:31.531] [1] Switched into NVT mode
 [15:04:31.546] [1] WinSock Initialized. Version 1.1
 [15:04:31.546] [1] WinSock Description: WinSock 2.0, Status: Running
 [15:04:31.546] [1] Socket Close. Rc: -1
 [15:04:31.546] [1] Resolved 192.207.28.160 to: 192.207.28.160, Port 23
 [15:04:56.046] [1] NVT terminal type mode
 [15:04:56.062] [1] Socket Recv., Rc: 3, WSA Rc 0, Input Size 1024
 [15:04:56.062] [1] Recv completed. Data follows:
 FF FD 28
 [15:04:56.062] [1] Blocking Receive events...
 [15:04:56.062] [1] Got DO TN3270E
 [15:04:56.062] [1] Reply WILL TN3270E
 [15:04:56.062] [1] Socket Send. Sending 3 bytes, Rc: 3. WSA Rc: 0
 [15:04:56.062] [1] Send completed. Data follows:
 FF FB 28
 [15:04:56.062] [1] Unblocking Receive events...
 [15:04:56.062] [1] Socket Recv., Rc: -1, WSA Rc 10053, Input Size 1024
 [15:04:56.078] [1] Terminating Session
 [15:04:56.078] [1] Socket Close. Rc: 0
 [15:06:59.968] [1] Tracing has been disabled
 [15:07:05.078] [1] Tracing has been enabled
 [15:07:11.921] [1] Switched into NVT mode
 [15:07:11.937] [1] WinSock Initialized. Version 1.1
 [15:07:11.937] [1] WinSock Description: WinSock 2.0, Status: Running
 [15:07:11.937] [1] Socket Close. Rc: -1
 [15:07:11.937] [1] Resolved 192.207.28.160 to: 192.207.28.160, Port 23
 [15:07:36.437] [1] NVT terminal type mode
 [15:07:36.453] [1] Socket Recv., Rc: 3, WSA Rc 0, Input Size 1024
 [15:07:36.453] [1] Recv completed. Data follows:
 FF FD 28
 [15:07:36.453] [1] Blocking Receive events...
 [15:07:36.453] [1] Got DO TN3270E
 [15:07:36.453] [1] Reply WILL TN3270E
 [15:07:36.453] [1] Socket Send. Sending 3 bytes, Rc: 3. WSA Rc: 0
 [15:07:36.453] [1] Send completed. Data follows:
 FF FB 28
 [15:07:36.453] [1] Unblocking Receive events...
 [15:07:36.453] [1] Socket Recv., Rc: 0, WSA Rc 0, Input Size 1024
 [15:07:36.453] [1] Terminating Session
 [15:07:36.453] [1] Socket Close. Rc: 0

 I'm particularly interested in WSA Rc 10053 and also why on the second
 failure the rc = 0

 -Jim
 hummingbird host explorer emulator


 On 9/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Is this PC multi-homed? Does your ICC Intranet have a connection to
 your
  regular Intranet?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On
  Behalf Of James M
  Sent: September 10, 2007 14:21
  To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
  Subject: Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems
 
  I get various results
  sometimes I get no error
  sometimes I get unable to connect to host
  some times unable to find host/gateway
 
  I have another backup pc that is able to connect to the ICC
  ...and on the pc that cannot connect to the icc I am able to connect
  to vm's tcpip
  very weird...don't know what to do
 
  diagnostics on the icc shows no errors
  ibm ce is here now also scratching his head. (he also accidently
  varied off the wrong chpid bringing down my whole ip network).
  -Jim
 
  On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Then it's likely not a card but a network problem. Asymmetric
 routing
  maybe?
   Do you get any errors when you try to connect?
  
   On 11/09/2007

Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems

2007-09-10 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 09/10/2007 at 03:30 EDT, James M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm particularly interested in WSA Rc 10053

http://www.sockets.com/err_lst1.htm#WSAECONNABORTED indicates your *PC* 
terminated the connection, presumably because TCP (not the application!) 
didn't like the data it received.  A sniffer would be most helpful.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott